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Researchers: African-Americans most likely to use physical punishment
Researchers said African Americans are among the most likely to use corporal punishment on children.
November 10th, 2011
11:50 AM ET

Researchers: African-Americans most likely to use physical punishment

A switch, a belt, a shoe, a hand. Paddling, whipping, whupping, spanking. The instruments and language of corporal punishment vary, but what connects them is how often they are employed as parenting tools.

Researchers who study corporal punishment say that parents of all ethnic groups, socioeconomic categories and education levels practice some form of physical punishment with their children.

“The majority of parents across all ethnic groups spank at some point,” said Elizabeth Gershoff, a professor and researcher on corporal punishment at the University of Texas at Austin.

But among the groups most likely to use it: African-Americans.

In a study Gershoff co-authored that examined 20,000 kindergartners and their parents, she found that 89% of black parents, 79% of white parents, 80% of Hispanic parents and 73% of Asian parents said they have spanked their children.

But why do so many black parents approve of disciplining their children that way? The answer is complicated, experts said.

Some researchers have suggested it's a legacy left by the brutality of slavery. Some say it's rooted in fear - that if parents don’t use force to demand obedience, someone else will. Others said African-American parents, in aggregate, are disproportionately lower-income, have less education and are more likely to follow a religion that implores them not to spare the rod for fear of spoiling the child - all factors that correlate with use of corporal punishment, regardless of race.

Numerous studies have pointed to negative consequences for all children who are spanked, regardless of parents' race, ethnicity, income-level or education level. Kids who are physically punished face higher risk of anxiety and depression, higher rates of aggression toward others and a more distant relationship with their parent, Gershoff said. Those risks are in addition to the risk of injury from parents who cross the line from a hard smack on a behind  - still damaging, researchers said -  to abuse that leaves children bruised or bleeding.

Dr. Alvin F. Poussaint, a Harvard Medical School psychiatrist who has studied mental health issues and parenting in African-American communities, is a leading voice against corporal punishment. It’s an uphill battle.

“It’s culturally embedded in America that spanking is a legitimate and good way to discipline children. But the fact is, nearly all studies, except for a few, say it is not a good way of disciplining and can actually produce damage,” Poussaint said. “We have such damage in the black community, when you add to that parents beating their kids, it’s sending the message that violence is an OK way to solve problems.”

Nevertheless, Poussaint said, questioning corporal punishment can provoke a defensive or angry reaction from parents.

“Usually some people stand up and say, ‘Well, I was beaten as a kid and I turned out pretty well.’ Well, did they?” Poussaint said. “If you dig more deeply, you don’t really know that… beating may have left scars in them that they don’t really understand.”

Poussaint dismisses the biblical imperative so often used as a justification for corporal punishment as “a tired excuse.”

“Violence begets violence, anger begets anger, and the loss of control makes it all worse,” he said.

There are researchers, community leaders and parents that are trying to change attitudes toward spanking and corporal punishment among African-Americans.

The Harlem Children’s Zone, a nonprofit community organization that provides education and social services to a 100-block area in New York City, is working to convince parents that corporal punishment isn't the answer. It spends two sessions of its Baby College program for parents of children ages zero to 3 talking about how physical punishment is harmful and why it shouldn’t be used. Since the nine-week Baby College began classes in 2001, more than 3,600 parents have graduated.

“Sometimes there is some pushback during those sessions, sometimes they go home and are told by older relatives that they’re spoiling the child,” said Marty Lipp, an Harlem Children's Zone spokesman. “We have to equip them to be able to make the case to themselves and possibly to their relatives and neighbors.”

Asadah Kirkland, an African-American mother and educator in Brooklyn, was inspired to write her anti-spanking book, “Beating Black Kids,” after a friend said “something about how you just need to beat kids sometimes.” The book includes adults discussing how spanking affected them, and also offers parents alternative methods of discipline.

Kirkland now gives workshops encouraging parents not to use corporal punishment, and she often encounters resistance from parents who believe it’s necessary. They passionately defend their right to raise their children as their parents raised them – with switch in hand.

“They don’t want to be incriminated, they don’t want to incriminate their parents,”  Kirkland said. “They need to validate what’s happened to them.”

Kirkland said more parents must realize that parents need to use discipline in a way that gives kids skills for handling conflict in the future: negotiation, respect of authority and courage.

“Whatever you want your future to look like, that’s what you need to be rearing and creating in your children’s future,” Kirkland said. “These are the people who are going to run the future, and if they’re coming up beaten up and resentful, that’s the way they’re going to be when they grow up.”

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  1. calvin

    It is really amazing how supposedly the african americans are usaully based as the lowest form or highest form in every category negative. Supposedly they are the poorest, lower educated or whatever. Usually these studies are done by people who have no clue. African americans are told they are the minority-Lie, less educated-lie, poorest-lie. African Americans need to stop allowing all of these lies to keep circulating and stop standing idly by.

    November 12, 2011 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • fortunate

      to calvin: African-Americans would have stopped all those lies (you are right here), if they woudn't benefit from them.

      November 12, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      Blacks can do nothing about the lies. If they protest–they "are playing the race card" what blacks do, as a group (by and large) is ignore the stories and secretly have contempt for the people who need such weekly (and continual reassurance) about their "superiority" all the while they tape and copy as much of what we are and do as they possibly can–even the bad traits.

      November 13, 2011 at 5:11 am | Report abuse |
  2. Mike

    Oh toughen up people! Bunch of perfectionist whiners. Look in the mirror.

    November 12, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Glenn

    This study is racist and should not even be published because it singles out a race of people.

    November 12, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan

      Are you being serious? Race as a factor is often singled out. Many cultures follow race.

      November 12, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        When "race" as a factor is used, it becomes the impetus for people to assume superiority of one race over another and it also underlines divisions that are not racial in origin. It is an eternal comparison and have contributed to such misinformation that more blacks are on drugs than whites (no longer true) that there are mostly blacks on welfare (over 75% of all welfare recipients are white) that most people in prison are black (most are white in actual numbers, the black numbers are in comparison to the total amount of black males in the black population but in actual #s there are more whites) that black men do not like their own women (only 13% of black males are dating outside their race. But you would not know that based on using "race" as a criteria. ONly when race is no longer a factor will racism be dead–the focus and comparison for good or ill of the races IS racism.

        November 13, 2011 at 4:22 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Maybe its time to stop that , Susan and focus on what can be changed or commonality and not which group is the worst at each thing–most know the numbers are manipulated anyway–if they were true, then once established they would not continually be repeated over and over and over again as if one group needed continual reassurance that that "one other group" was still worse than they are. LOL

        November 13, 2011 at 5:13 am | Report abuse |
  4. edgarx

    “Hispanic” is not a race. It’s a cultural heritage. There are Hispanics of all races; Caucasian, African, Asian, indigenous American and more. Get your facts straight and pull yourselves out of your deep ignorance.

    November 12, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Angelique

      I don't think the problem is in the article but rather in the chosen headline for the front page of CNN – the article doesn't seem to say race, it says ethnic groups – which is different. Asian isn't a race either, it's mention pretty much includes the whole continent of different races. Relax, the person who wrote the article isn't as dumb as whoever is making the front page headline for people to click on.

      November 12, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Crz

      All races are cultural heritages. That's what they are. They don't exist in biological reality; they are products of culture.

      November 12, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      there are Latinos of all races, the US (who was one of the main forces at designating race to various cultures HAS defined Hispanics as a race and white Hispanics as a sub group of whites when they want higher statistics and a sub group of brown Hispanics for negative stats like crimes. Ethnic groups do not decide what is or is not a race, the US and Western societies do this–it is a measurement tool of those societies.

      November 13, 2011 at 4:24 am | Report abuse |
  5. M.E.

    Sometime you have to get a kids attention, a swat on the butt used on only the worst occasions is a good way to do that. No more than one or two, just enough to shock a kid into listening.

    November 12, 2011 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
    • ACA

      Is that what you do to your wife to get her attention? Give her a swat or two to get her attention?

      November 12, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • SBS

      Is that what you do to your wife to get her attention? Give her a swat or two to get her attention?

      November 12, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • SBS

      Is that what you do to your wife? You give her a couple of swats just to get her attention?

      November 12, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Granite Sentry

    Not really surprising. What's surprising is that this essentially conservative and old-fashioned group of people have been co-opted for so long by the most Liberal and modernist political party, the Democrats. A testament to the power of a full-time political propaganda machine (the press) that constantly tells them they can't get along without a huge, powerful government looking out for their needs. Which of course happens to provide full-time jobs to lots and lots and lots of good Democrats. It may be the biggest scam in history.

    November 12, 2011 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • reACTIONary

      RE: A testament to the power of a full-time political propaganda machine...

      Actually a testament to advocating for the rights and interests of everyone, including the oppressed and those who aren't well off. Black folks aren't stupid, they haven't been "tricked" or "brainwashed".

      November 12, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • conrad

      Conservative and Old Fashioned group??? What nonsense ...

      November 13, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      Do you really expect blacks to migrate to a group who sends out emails about food stamps and water melons and magic n- or who makes fun of Harold Ford and other blacks? Who have people like Ann Coulter discussing "our blacks" as if blacks are pets to be owned? REALLY? Blacks are very discerning and though they realize Democrats exploit them, Democrats are not nearly as ugly and denigrating on a continual basis as the GOP–you really expect the average black to embrace that? You probably also expect them to tell you they hate their own race and wish they were white too–don't hold your breath. LOL

      November 13, 2011 at 3:15 am | Report abuse |
      • JordacheJeans

        hee hee ha ha...you said...denigrate..hah!

        November 14, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Phil

    I just want to ask CNN, why do you make everything about race? We are supposed to be past these especially according to CNN themselves but then everyday they have a story asking what races do more of this or less of that. I think it was yesterday or the day before they had posted a race related story about venture capitalist and now this. Why does CNN condone stereotyping and causing race related issues? I just want to say to CNN stop it, it does not have to always be a race issue.

    November 12, 2011 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Rufus Leeking

      The University of Texas at Austin published this report, CNN only reported it. Should this have been ignored in the media? If so, why?

      November 12, 2011 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
      • John

        I'd be interested to see this same article, word for word, posted in a "White in America" catagory on CNN. I expect the racism in it would be obvious as the morning sun shining through the window on a cloudless day.

        November 12, 2011 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • reACTIONary

      Why do you characterize this as stereotyping? Its a statistical study.

      November 12, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        You have to be seriously naive, if you do not understand or accept that most "statistical studies" are skewed to make a perconceived point with all other data minimized or thrown out. There is no such thing as a "statistical study" when either questions or the amount of participants can be framed to ensure the results say what the pollster wants to say. That is a FACT.

        November 13, 2011 at 3:52 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        THIS STUDY MEANS MORE WHITES BEAT THEIR KIDS (158 MILLION) THAN ASIAN, BLACK (39 million) AND HISPANIC COMBINED. (about 47 million) You DO realize that is what the numbers means, once you calculate those stats. Is that the reason for the mass murders, the meth epidemic, the serial killling, the child rapes and the parenticide and parental beatings? all rampant among white people?

        November 13, 2011 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Crz

      It's a bad headline. The study isn't about black people or race per se; it's about coporal punishment.

      November 12, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Actually this study intended that blacks be perceived as beating their kids more based on their race unfortunately statistics are only the first tool in a calculation, here is the other part: THIS STUDY MEANS MORE WHITES BEAT THEIR KIDS (158 MILLION) THAN ASIAN, BLACK AND HISPANIC COMBINED.You DO realize that is what the numbers means, once you calculate those stats. Is that the reason for the mass murders, the meth epidemic, the serial killling, the child rapes and the parenticide and parental beatings? all rampant among white people?

        November 13, 2011 at 8:49 am | Report abuse |
  8. qwedie

    Is this why there are so many Blacks in prison? Maybe the parents hit with one hand and condone with the other, subjecting them to an unclear way of thinking.

    November 12, 2011 at 9:26 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      Exactly how many people are in prison ? (of all races) then how many blacks? Be sure to get a numerical amount and not just the play on words based on black demographics. You will find that whether it is welfare, or prison or serial killers or mass murderers, there are far more whites in each of those categories. Beware of when they talk about anything "in proportion to the amount of males or race in a group. In raw numbers whites outnumber all groups in these kinds of things though you would not know this–LOOK IT UP

      November 13, 2011 at 3:55 am | Report abuse |
      • The Queen

        Ha! Got 'em!

        November 15, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      THIS STUDY MEANS MORE WHITES BEAT THEIR KIDS (158 MILLION) THAN ASIAN, BLACK (39 million) AND HISPANIC (47 million) COMBINED.You DO realize that is what the numbers means, once you calculate those stats. Is that the reason for the mass murders, the meth epidemic, the serial killling, the child rapes and the parenticide and parental beatings? all rampant among white people? Bet you did not know these stats also say this, huh once you calculate those %.

      November 13, 2011 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
  9. rh

    So where does that put multi-racial people like myself and my spouse?

    They say racism is bad and should be ended out of one side of their mouth, then they propagate stereotypes. Typical media.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Obama2012!!!!

      Same thing I was thinking. lol

      November 12, 2011 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
  10. love1234

    willowdee & David in Corpus, well stated....

    jasper9000 & stereotype much, were you bullied as a child? It will be ok. muah 🙂

    November 12, 2011 at 8:48 am | Report abuse |
  11. woodrow

    It's safe to say, beating your black children has not helped them. Statistically speaking of course.

    November 12, 2011 at 8:30 am | Report abuse |
    • I DISLIKE YOU JUST AS MUCH AS YOU DISLIKE ME

      It's safe to safe that by not beating your children that it hasn't helped them either. What statistics are you referring too? Cite your sources. Another stupid bigot.

      November 12, 2011 at 9:06 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      did it help the white ones ? (79%) and look up their numbers for jail and welfare and don't get % get the real numbers and get back to us. LOL

      November 13, 2011 at 3:56 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      did this study help white kids? MORE WHITES BEAT THEIR KIDS (158 MILLION) THAN ASIAN, BLACK (39 million) AND HISPANIC (47 million) COMBINED.You DO realize that is what the numbers means, once you calculate those stats. Is that the reason for the mass murders, the meth epidemic, the serial killling, the child rapes and the parenticide and parental beatings? all rampant among white people? Bet you did not know these stats also say this, huh once you calculate those %.

      November 13, 2011 at 8:52 am | Report abuse |
  12. Occupado

    Is there anything that CNN doesn't racialize?

    November 12, 2011 at 7:30 am | Report abuse |
    • vet4life63

      No there isn't. CNN plays the race card, in whichever way accomplishes there agenda. They will come out and say "we are all Americans", and then the next day, its blacks do this more, or whites do this more, or whatever group they want to mess with that day. Agree with them on their "studies" and then you are racist. CNN IS racist, they use it however it benefits their agenda.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:35 am | Report abuse |
      • Tex Gritter

        I think it may be part of the old "Divide and conquer" mentality coming out inthe media. That these suckers have an agenda that favors Huge Government is as plain as the nose on your face.

        November 12, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • rh

      No, please start targeting multi-racial folks like myself more, we feel left out by not being "white" or "black" or "Asian".

      Heck, poor Obama must feel left out being multi-racial too – should he beat his kids or not?

      November 12, 2011 at 8:51 am | Report abuse |
      • conrad

        I think it means Obama will need to beat 79% of his children 83% of the time ...

        November 13, 2011 at 12:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Just A Thought

      Really? Why is it that when somebody does research on race; somebody always screams out racism? Culture is a part of every race. Each culture have different customs and beliefs on how to raise there children. These customs and beliefs will ultimately determine how a child will develop, because a human child no matter what race is just a child. Children are blank canvases waiting for that first stroke of the brush. So how the painting turns out will depend on the painter.

      This article tells us how each culture tends to paint; whether with heavy bold strokes or light delicate ones. We as individual adults can act like adults and use this information as we please. Look in the mirror then at your kids. Do you like what you see?

      November 12, 2011 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Because it usually is about race. Common sense says that when race is no longer a part of the criteria in a discussion ONLY then will racism stop. If it is about culture, then instead of speaking about race or dividing the results about race they should have been divided by culture and here is some news for you–there is really NO SUCH thing as a black culture. Poor blacks behave and are exposed to certain things as are poor whites (one calls it crack another has meth) but as they continue up the ladder, other issues become paramount. Better to have divided by socio economic or educational success than by color or race–because when that is done, it is racist–racist being to delineate the superiority of one race over another. Nothing does that better than some "scientific stats" yeah–right. (sarcasm)

        November 13, 2011 at 4:00 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Why has America been doing "research on race" almost weekly since the 1700s? What exactly is the point? And usually they limit what they do to the black and white races as if all the other races do not exist. Except when it comes to fertility. For some reason, they don't want to do the studies on that or on the group who is the most infertile, guess with all the other subjects, that one is not important. WEEKLY. YOU'd think whites would have enough data or reassurance by now. LOL

        November 13, 2011 at 6:12 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        This study tells us NOTHING. Silly people. I was married to a man from "Asia" and also lived in Taiwan. They most certainly believe in corporal punishment not only for their kids but for criminals (beaten in public squares) what they do not believe in is sharing information like that with strangers especially white people. There are things to keep private and things to say to keep a public face. Nothing is worse than losing face and to prevent that, even lying is acceptable. A poll like this will NEVER learn how Asians think of what they do–they would not dream of contributing meaningfully to such an intrusive (and to many Asian minds) barbaric, a study. (the barbarism comes from strangers/outsiders wishing to know personal business –not from beatings.)

        November 13, 2011 at 6:14 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        You are right. so let's calculate those numbers ... MORE WHITES BEAT THEIR KIDS (158 MILLION) THAN ASIAN, BLACK (39 million) AND HISPANIC (47 million) COMBINED.You DO realize that is what the numbers means, once you calculate those stats. Is that the reason for the mass murders, the meth epidemic, the serial killling, the child rapes and the parenticide and parental beatings? all rampant among white people? Bet you did not know these stats also say this, huh ? Right back atcha.

        November 13, 2011 at 8:53 am | Report abuse |
  13. Diana

    I worry about this being taken as a real outcome on a level of % verses actual results, that being said i know people are stressed over the issues of today from not enough food ,money, housing and so many are turning there anger on their children, because parents can't afford to do for the children pf today, with the pressures of life and all the trouble going on everyday, everywhere in the world, there is only one way out and that is turn to GOD, for the answers.

    November 12, 2011 at 7:02 am | Report abuse |
  14. flarnkingsgargle

    it's only 10% difference between white and black in a test group of 20,000. I would hardly consider this worth an article, much less a moment or two of consideration.

    November 12, 2011 at 6:28 am | Report abuse |
  15. what is up with CNN

    why does everything have to be about race? You should know the negative comments are going to be coming out.

    I've seen about two or 3 articles in one day about race on CNN. Stop it!

    November 12, 2011 at 4:44 am | Report abuse |
    • Occupado

      They can't stop. Their business model is based on racism. Without it, they'd cease to exist.

      November 12, 2011 at 7:32 am | Report abuse |
      • vet4life63

        You hit the nail on the head. (nothing against screws here)

        November 12, 2011 at 8:37 am | Report abuse |
  16. zombie kid

    The Germans.

    November 12, 2011 at 3:08 am | Report abuse |
  17. liedetector

    What I need to start doing is every time a news site won't allow me to post a comment I should take their article and link it on my own website and provide my personal commentary on their BS.

    November 12, 2011 at 1:02 am | Report abuse |
    • zombie kid

      You go ahead and do that dumbdumb, nobody going to your site to see it anyway...comments only count here.

      I like turtles.

      November 12, 2011 at 3:06 am | Report abuse |
      • cali22269

        LOL!!!!!

        November 12, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Hannah

    Look through the different subject within each category, such as: World, Politics, US, etc. The top stories for US are extremely trivial, and makes the people here look like a bunch of freaking idiots. Thanks!

    November 12, 2011 at 12:59 am | Report abuse |
    • conrad

      Its because they aim to have at least 300 active and changing articles (to keep us interested) and doing deep intelligent research is difficult and time consuming. Not all journalists are wise thinkers.

      Also, how much newsworthy stuff can really happen in a day?

      November 13, 2011 at 12:49 am | Report abuse |
  19. mywordsarecensored

    What's with the censored post that contain nothing objectional?

    November 12, 2011 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
  20. jdoe

    Seems like the percentages are disproportionably high across all races. Funny how some people disparages other races, yet all substantial majority of their own race does the same.

    November 11, 2011 at 11:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • mfx3

      I would assume the African-American rate was higher than the other groups at a statistically significant level. But you're right, all groups had seemingly high percentage rates.

      November 12, 2011 at 12:31 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Silly people. I was married to a man from "Asia" and also lived in Taiwan. They most certainly believe in corporal punishment not only for their kids but for criminals (beaten in public squares) what they do not believe in is sharing information like that with strangers especially white people. There are things to keep private and things to say to keep a public face. Nothing is worse than losing face and to prevent that, even lying is acceptable. A poll like this will NEVER learn how Asians think of what they do–they would not dream of contributing meaningfully to such an intrusive (and to many Asian minds) barbaric, a study. (the barbarism comes from strangers/outsiders wishing to know personal business –not from beatings.)

        November 13, 2011 at 5:52 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Consider this–89% of 43 million (number of blacks) would be approximately 39 million–BUT 79% of 200 million (Number of whites) would be over 160 million. YOU were saying?

        November 13, 2011 at 6:17 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        ALMOST EVERY TIME YOU SEE "studies and statistics" concerning race, you KNOW you are looking at doctored information, that if viewed from real numbers would show a different group in a negative light than they are shown. For instance this study could have said "statistically speaking, only 11% of blacks do not use corporal punishment compared to 21% of whites who do not" that would be just as true as saying 89% of blacks are purported to use corporal punishment compared to 79% of whites BUT if we talk about REAL KIDS then the numbers are like this:

        of the 45 million blacks about 39 million probably beat their kids. "of the 200 million whites, about 158 million beat their kids. NOW..all you who think those "horrible African Americans can go out and lament the beatings done by 39 million blacks and IGNORE the 158 million whites doing the same thing?

        THAT is what a study will do for you–now tell us how many upper middle class people beat their kids. how many americans with college degrees beat their kids, or for that matter how many people in certain geographic regions or how many Catholics, or Protestants–THAT would be more scientific when you break it down by race it IS racist and it is also BS since no amount of any poll of any black can tell you what each black is doing–you don't even know how many do not have kids or may answer your poll and not be black after all or may have one white parent like Obama. EPIC FAIL.

        November 13, 2011 at 8:27 am | Report abuse |
    • adrian

      i could not agree more. It amazes me how one sided this is considering the fact that the african american percentage would not even qualify as an outlier in the results. The results of the findings of the study are not being compared to the outcomes of which can further be skewed by other variables such as environment, education, family structure, etc. It is ridiculous to draw conclusions based on such a focused case study.

      November 12, 2011 at 6:47 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      If actual numbers are used instead of stats–more white kids and Hispanic kids are getting beat simply because there are far more of them than blacks–but we don't want THOSE numbers displayed that way–we MUST make sure at least 2 times a week we underline how superior whites are to blacks even if it is a lie and common sense (not manipulated stats) underline that fact (less than 13% of Americans are black so about 43 million X .89? vs 200 million X .79 for whites and 53 million X .80 for Hispanics. See? what we can all learn when we can do MATH?

      November 13, 2011 at 4:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Statistician

        The US census has only 39 million blacks. Where did the other 5 million come from?

        November 13, 2011 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        In 2009 I read the US had 43 million blacks, in another article I read the number was 45 million, BUT if the number is 39 million (as you say) then the 89% would be around 35.3 million which still EVEN LESS blacks beating their kids than Hispanics or whites. and also would not change the dynamic that more whites beat their kids than Asians, Blacks and Hispanics combined. What the true number of blacks are –I will leave in the middle–or did the Census for the firs time begin to separate biracial when by law they used to always include them with black?

        November 13, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
  21. William Cole

    Yep, them N's also wack 'em upside the head, push them forward through the door, and just beat 'em for not moving fast enough after being wacked. Yep they enjoy it so much, they won't let us wach em. stttrange. Yep and verbal abuse too. No wonder we have to lock the kids in jail, the parents wanna kill em.

    November 11, 2011 at 10:54 pm | Report abuse |
  22. cody

    What a dumb thing to research.

    November 11, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Viking

      and they probably researched it on a huge government grant........

      November 12, 2011 at 8:04 am | Report abuse |
    • The Queen

      I totally agree!!! This is absolutely ridiculous!!!

      November 15, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Rob

    "Which race most likely to.......?

    I can't believe normal people are interested by this kind of garbage...

    November 11, 2011 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • JD

      Normal people aren't. CNN fanboys are.

      November 11, 2011 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • me

      you clicked it...

      November 12, 2011 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
  24. Rob

    Useless

    November 11, 2011 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Beefburger

    All of these fans of Dr. Spock seem to have missed his appology and recanting about his methods of child rearing. As he himself admited that he was always to busy at work and that it was the mother raising their children.

    Alice Miller did not have children of her own until long after she retired. I bet the stress of not properly disciplining her children and having painted herself into a corner on the issue to not be able change her philosophy publically probably killed her.

    November 11, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Raina

    Corporal punishment is wrong.

    November 11, 2011 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • James

      I'm sure you put your kids in "time out" huh?..lol Wait until they get into the real world.

      November 11, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Catherine

        Yea, Screw "time out" that's just a way for your kids to ignore you! HAHAHA it's actually a mini-break from their dumb parents who think that'll teach their kid a lesson! oooh send them to their room where they have DVD Players and games and toys! HAHAHA!

        November 11, 2011 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Raina

        In the real world, hitting someone because they did something wrong or did something that you do not like is assault. In the real world, right or wrong, the assaulted party can hit back-can defend the integrity of her person, has rights of redress against the perpetrator.

        But not for children. People think they have the right to hit thier children becuase they view children as property i.e., "he is my child (property), I can hit him if I want"., and the law recognizies the claim of ownership-corporal punshiment is not illigal. Unfortunately though, children are people too. If one must hit his child to disipline that child, that person has no business being a parent.

        November 14, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • No, it's not either wrong

      You're part of the reason that today's kids are insolent spoiled brats.

      November 11, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      I agree, and it's not the reason kids are insolent brats...it's lazy parenting.

      November 12, 2011 at 8:18 am | Report abuse |
  27. JUGGERNAUT

    69.2% of crimes are committed by whites and 73% of rapes are committed by whites.

    "per capita" is just an excuse white uses. The crimes are NOT COMMITTED by the population itself. it goes: if there are 1000 criminals 69.2% of those criminal are whites"

    November 11, 2011 at 8:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • david duke

      i'd love to see the source of those stats....are you one of those "more blacks are in prison because of the evil white man" crowd? Working in the legal system, i get to see the police sheet, and the people in prison are there because they are guilty of the crime. the 'whites' jsut aren't getting arrested for them. maybe they aren't doing the crime?

      November 11, 2011 at 8:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Are you stupid? Per capita is the standard by which to measure crime. You clearly dont' understand basic statistics and ratios. If you're too stupid to understand math, you shouldn't be commenting about it.

      November 11, 2011 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
  28. ginamero

    Per capita in the population....blacks again....and who do you thinks rapes most per capita in the population...ding/ding/ding...you folks win again. I've often wondered how such a small percentage of the population can cause so much trouble...

    November 11, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Chell

    This foolishness is what keeps racism alive. So sad.

    November 11, 2011 at 8:03 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Kristin

    Another race focused break down on "how we're different". Sod off with them all already. 21st CENTURY!

    November 11, 2011 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Jeanine

    Haven't you ever been in a store and seen a kid getting a verbal beating from his/her loud, abrasive mom? It's horrible.

    November 11, 2011 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Catherine

      Just as Horrible as the parents who stand by and do nothign as their hyper child runs around the store pulling things off shelves and running into people!! SMH 😦 so sad....

      November 11, 2011 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        Well Said!

        November 11, 2011 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • jdoe

        It's easy to go from one extreme to the other. There is something called the middle. There are parents who can effectively discipline their kids without resorting to violence.

        November 11, 2011 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • XYZ

        Yes, their perfectly genetically engineered child in a petrie dish that a surogate gave birth to when the mother was 75.

        November 12, 2011 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      Then there are the kids who are wallowing on the floor kicking and screaming with tantrums while the mom pretends she is parenting them or those most wonderful of kids, tearing through the store or walking around the restaurant, getting in everyone's way or making a nuisance of themselves while the clueless mom beams like her hell spawn is the greatest thing since sliced bread and aren't we glad that kid is in the display window with his sipper cup? YEP.

      November 13, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Don

    Kids who are physically punished face higher risk of anxiety and depression, higher rates of aggression toward others and a more distant relationship with their parent, Gershoff said.

    sounds like this white boy to me. So if you wanna play with #'s and %'s, more white people actually beat their kids.

    November 11, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
  33. todwil

    I was sure hispanics beat their kids more

    November 11, 2011 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Y2J

    Because 89% is such a larger percentage than 79% and 80%. Derp.

    November 11, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • JQR77

      I was thinking that, too. And other people could have been lying.

      November 11, 2011 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      Yeah, I was thinking that too. So that's 9 out of 10 instead of 8 out of 10? Oh yeah, big difference!

      November 11, 2011 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      FACT is –when the numbers of any group are so much larger than anothers–then the numbers in % will always appear smaller but in actual numbers will dwarf the larger %. For instance if you say 20% of 40 million people are crazy–that translates to 8 million people–BUT if you say only 13% of 200 million are crazy that translates to 26 million and we can all agree that 26 million is more than 8 million just like 35-39 million blacks beating their kids is a lot less than 158 million beating their kids–and remember these are real potential kids so after we play with % –the numbers being "beat" are much more likely to be white than black–those numbers don't lie ...

      November 13, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Christine

    I don't put much faith in certain studies because people are liars and I'd wager that not everyone was truthful in this one.

    November 11, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Your Panties

      I agree witchya?

      November 11, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Levi

        Wow I'm shocked you could read the article with how illiterate you make yourself look. You must be one of those statistics that is known to beat their children. Spell check yes please

        November 11, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • Your Panties

        I don't have any children because I have been smart enough to keep my Panties on. But, thanks for your stupid remarks.

        November 11, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Visara

        I love how you call other posts stupid, yet you find a need to capitalize the word "panties" in your post.

        November 11, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • cali22269

        I Was Thinking The Same Thing.?! LOL

        November 12, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • SoTrue2710

        Panties, you are a perfect example of what I don't believe in...spare the rod and raise a brat that has no respect for anyone or anything. You are a very immature, self-absorbed, narrow minded brat.

        November 12, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  36. leadersandfollowers

    I knew the answer before I clicked the link. It's the same race that commits more murder, rape, theft, etc. etc. than any other race in this country.

    November 11, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
  37. JCCK

    Keep in mind that the child you beat today may end up being the child that either beats you to a pulp .. or kills you a few years down the road. My abusive stepfather learned that lesson the day I turned 16 and got my hands on a baseball bat.

    November 11, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Your Panties

      Not Very Nice of you to do that. Did you go to prison for your crimes?

      November 11, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • BethTX

      Good for you. I'm glad you stood up for yourself.

      November 11, 2011 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hadenufyet

      All things eventually degrade to a lesser state. Put two teenage boys together , one good , well behaved , model citizen. The other , ornery , mischievous , recklessly curious. Which way will the pendulum swing?

      November 11, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Your Panties

      Not gonna answer my question, are you? I suspect you just made all of the up to give yourself a feel good.

      November 11, 2011 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • david duke

        careful – he may pull of 'your panties' and strangle you with them....

        November 11, 2011 at 8:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hmmmmm

      Your step father didn't love you and for someone that didn't love his step kid he was stupid for not keeping a weapon around somone he hates! The bat would have given him a reason to shoot your hard headed butt!

      November 11, 2011 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • conrad

      I never understand why women stay with men who beat their children ...

      November 13, 2011 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      Check the stats for black kids later beating up their parents or even talking back to their parents and white kids doing the same–be sure to print those stats. We ALL know what they will be like.

      November 13, 2011 at 6:20 am | Report abuse |
  38. berucem

    I do find it interesting that the generation of American men and women who fought in world war 1 and 2 were the generations that probably suffered the most corporal punishment as kids and yet they are the most honest, respectful. self sacrificing, intelligent generation this country has ever seen.

    November 11, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • David in Corpus

      I support corporat punishment. I am also quite fond of the greatest generation, the WWII folks, but..... me thinks you look at them with rose colored glasses.
      I was alive and paid close attention during the last days of cold war america (70's and 80's). Those old men could be brutal, masoganistic, racist, and downright vulgar. I loved them and hated them for it, depending on how funny they were about it. Nonetheless, they were far from perfect and I have the broken bones to prove it.
      My boy never gets more than 3 solid wacks on the azzsz. My gramps once put my head thru a wall when I was 11, a wee bit excessive you might say but I do gots me a se x y scar from it. I tell women it was from a gang fight, lol.

      November 11, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greg

      The homicide rate today is about 1/2 of what it was 30 years ago. Violence begets violence.

      November 11, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • rachbell

        True words.

        November 11, 2011 at 7:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cat

      I totally agree!!! Children today are more disrespectful, lazy, and emotionally weaker than the previous generations. But somehow we think this new psychology is the answer....FOOLISHNESS!!

      November 11, 2011 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Can you please give me actual evidence to prove that statement.

        November 11, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Hmmmmm

        I can, 99s week of unemployment, the wall street protesters, a whole genertation that thinks someone owes them something. Even for something they never experienced like slavery? Any student that would go to college for 4 years and get a degree in basket weaving and then complain that they can't find a job? Need I go on?

        November 11, 2011 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        A degree in basket weaving is not a factual argument. The OWS protests have been going on for what, 2 months? You can not make sweeping generalizations about a generation for 2 months worth of activity. And if they worked hard enough to get a 4 year degree from any college I have a hard time classifying them as lazy.

        November 11, 2011 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        Agree!

        November 11, 2011 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Hmmmmm

        If you spend the kind of money it takes to get a college degree and you spend the time and energy to finish that degee and your degree can't help you get a job or create a job then your time has been wasted and your degree is worthless!

        November 11, 2011 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        I agree but that does not make them disrespectful, lazy, or emotionaly weak.

        November 11, 2011 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Hmmmmm

        Most Americans have no idea how good they have got it and all they are good for is crying and complaining. We have some of the sorriest most worthless people in the world right here in this country. This is the perfect environment for men like Hitler, Stalin and Mao they thrived where people looked for excuses to blame others for their own failures and short comings because they are to sorry to look at themselves in the mirror. You are where you are because of a decision you made 5 and 10 years ago and you are too proud to acknowledge your mistake while making the right changes.

        November 11, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Hmmmm–I TOTALLY Agree! Blacks who latch onto slavery are no different than southerners who can't get over the Civil war or Republicans who still want to hold onto the legacy of Lincoln. All 3 types of people are so far removed that to pretend an association makes all those who are not part of those groups feel put upon. Never mind that the "party of Lincoln" no longer practices what Lincoln stood for, or that the south is still denigrated and exploited by the North and that full reparations were never made. Southerners need to let that go including the use of a Confederate flag–so 1860s.

        by the same token, never mind that the treatment of blacks not only 150 years ago but now is predicated upon slavery and they often still are marginalized, blamed and ostracizzed. WE have only to point to the 2 or 300 successful ones and blame the others for not being as good. I mean the success of 300 blacks means the other 45 million should or could be as successful right? I mean, we'd let them if they wanted to be right? All of them being more successful than the avg white–right?

        so those who whine and cry and talk about slavery (when they never were slaves)( and those who whine and cry and talk about the south (when they never fought in the Confederacy) and finally those who whine and try to stand on LIncoln's shoulders when their own views are so far removed from what Lincoln stood for–well, they all should just cut it out. Just because Thomas Jefferson was a great man does not mean every white Virginian is a great man, right?

        In fact, you can take every single great White person and attribute their success to themselves and not to all the other whites who are not successful, right? No reason for racial pride or racial blame–same goes for blacks. NO matter how successful anyone of a race is–there is no guarantee for the outcome for another person of the same race.

        WHY? Different lives. Different choices. Different opportunities. Different people helping or hurting. Same is true for whites or any other group and people need to quit trying to claim any sort of pride due to achievements of someone of the same race. The success of any one person has no reflection on our lives–we do. So blacks need to not think a victory for Obama or Oprah or Cain is their victory (they are still poor or whatever) and whites need to stop looking at the achievement of other whites and trying to take credit or elevate themselves for it–if you did not invent anything about computers...you are NOT Steve Jobs. All people are just people–and I could not have said it better myself. So enough of Lincoln and the south and slavery–if we are going to leave the bad in the past–then we leave all of the past–no one should be cherry picking the parts they like and saying the rest does not count.

        November 13, 2011 at 4:53 am | Report abuse |
  39. Your Panties

    I hate Crooks and other Criminals. Also, cats are completely useless. They are stupid and ignorant.
    Does everyone agree with me?

    November 11, 2011 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • ry

      I like to squeeze cats, not too hard but just to know that when they misbehave, they're going to get squeezed.

      November 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • David in Corpus

        We are discussing va j j's now aren't we?

        November 11, 2011 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Visara

      Why do you capitalize "crooks" and "criminals"? Did you not pay attention in school, kid? I swear, every post of yours I read, you seem to get more and more retarded.

      November 11, 2011 at 9:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • cali22269

        I Agree Again.?! LOL

        November 12, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • conrad

        Lay off – you're being harsh.

        November 13, 2011 at 1:01 am | Report abuse |
  40. Bob Saget

    Speaking from experience, i think Italians are more likely to use corporeal punishment than any other race.

    November 11, 2011 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
    • willowdee

      I grew up around Italians and I live in France and lots of people here beat their children and their animals. My family beat their dogs and I don't. Tell you what, my animals mind me better and they never cower or shrink from me. I've had a couple of refugee dogs from abusive homes that took a long time to realize that they would never be beaten by me and when they did, they were the best of pets. I've seen plenty of children duck when they thought their parents were going to hit them, it's a dead giveaway of how they are treated when others are not around. But don't look at the Italians, When i lived in the Black Forest, I saw a German cabinet maker beat the hell out of his son with a big stick over little of nothing. Besides, 80 percent is a horrible percentage coming from the priviledged class in America!

      November 11, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • UhYeaOk

      Ummm...Yea, ok. Italian is not a race.

      November 11, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        lol, haha

        November 11, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • cali22269

        LOL

        November 12, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      Italians=–ethnicity not a race–there are African Italians, LOL

      November 13, 2011 at 4:56 am | Report abuse |
  41. willowdee

    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that blacks have a lot more frustrations and stress to deal with in the American society. One outlet is to take it out on their children and they also might think, though mistakenly that strong punishments will help their children to be better self disciplined and therefore do better in life.

    But this article was obviously written by a white person!

    How about an article about how white people steal big-time and blacks small-time! Greedy corporate leaders paying themselves GINORMOUS fat salaries and bonuses that we all know they haven't begun to earn or deserve. These are the real PIGS in our society. But as long as idiots can keep coming up with these stupid and distracting stories, we don't pay attention to the really rotten, disgusting, greedy, s.o.b.'s among us!

    Most serial killers and mass murderers in America are white!

    November 11, 2011 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Toby

      And most gang members and criminals in this country are black. Your point?

      November 11, 2011 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
      • willowdee

        Well I think corporations are run by gangs and criminals and they're white! They rape the land and pollute the land, rivers and lakes. Your idea of gangs and criminals is small minded because you can't think on a grander scale. The big corporations and military and politicians pull things that shrink the deeds of Blacks to total insignificance. Like the polluting of an American city with nuclear waste just to see the effects on the people. That was not criminal? There are so many acts of violence perpetrated on the population by the white big shots who get away with it, that if you were educated youself, you would never dream of talking against Black people. Naturally I don't like small time crooks either, but they get the brunt of things while the real big time crooks fly right under the wire! Wake up!

        November 11, 2011 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • David in Corpus

        His point is that a b l ack mugger with his pants around his knees takes what is in your wallet and a whit e corporatist in a nice suit takes what is in your retirement fund, bank account, home equity, and anything else he (or she, lets not forget the ladies) can get their hands on.
        One uses a gun and goes to jail when caught, the other uses a computer or fountain pen and gets a hefty bonus when he gets caught.
        Any more questions dpsht?

        November 11, 2011 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rob montel

        I agree that there are many greedy and corrupt people in the financial industry. However, it is wrong to equate a mugging by a criminal with the loss experienced from any of the risky financial transactions that have contibuted to our recent woes. In the latter, the victim made the decision based on their knowledge and signed a contract. They are responsible for their actions in the end. The buyer should always beware.

        November 12, 2011 at 7:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Fletch

      Most serial killers and mass murderers in America are white? Like the Grim Sleeper? Or maybe Anthony Sowell? You mean those white guys?

      You troll-ish comment smacks of anti-white racism. This isn't the 1980's anymore, your tired cliche about whites somehow being more twisted than other races doesn't really ring true anymore. Try a little harder to not display your ignorance and racism next time.

      November 11, 2011 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Letshavtruth

        Most does not mean more than two. It mean with the exclusion of two or a few.

        November 11, 2011 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • BethTX

      Blacks have more stresses than whites? Uh huh. Like the favoritsm shown by affirmative action and scholarships that just about guarantees them a college education that their white counterparts have to pay for?

      November 11, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • lol

        LOL, Beth, your governor is Rick Perry. I bet you are partially responsible for that. Idiot.

        November 11, 2011 at 7:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • jasper9000

      Have you ever lived in the US? How can you make an opinion about Americans? Insulting all white Americans makes your post ignorant and racist.

      November 11, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • nunya

      What's wrong with serial killers? Dexter for President!

      November 12, 2011 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
  42. thapa

    I believe, 90% parents beat their children with varying frequencies and amplitudes regardless of race. But, it looks like people with low income group or poorly educated people are more aggressive towards their children(i.e,Walmart-shopping people !!! like me) regardless of race. I have also beaten my child one or two times a year in a situation like when he becomes rude if I switch off tv/computer. I am trying to improve myself in this regard reading some child behavioural books and consulting an expert . Latter I feel sad thinking this is not the way to deal with children; it really spoil the child.

    November 11, 2011 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  43. Marie

    I come from a multyracial country name Mauritius .Where education and healthcare are free.(for a lot of people the best country in the world.)My husband being european , I came to live in europe,and for the first time in my live, I find out what discrimination means.You have to work double and give double energy to get the same thing as a white european get.When you get home tired and frustrated,you have less energy to cope with your family....I sudgest to the person who made this survey,to see if in different race ,but the same social level ,if the result is the same as now.People who discriminates and are always putting the others down are simply cowards and cheate.Like in sport if you pulled somebody back or down ,to be the first you are a cheat.Give the spanich,the Asian ,the black,the same facilities with no
    discrimination we shall see the difference.In history who has been the more Brutal?
    l

    November 11, 2011 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
  44. Sakina

    Physical punishments ellicit a pain response, a non-enjoyable punishment that does not involve rewards. When we grow up into adults, we are also punished, if found guilty of a crime or wrong doing. Usually that punishment is not pleasurable. Whatever makes your child realize that they should be punished and not to continue a certain behavior is important in raising a child that will value "doing right and not wrong". However, as long as this country supports the dealth penalty as a punishment for specific offenses that we may be found guilty of, then we shouldn't be surprised that so many parents support physical punishment for their children when they are making bad choices that should be corrected and requires a severe punishment that is effective for that child. Also, we can also at the race of people in America most often on dealth row, victims of police brutality, harsh verbal abuses as a race, and historically beaten to dealth, tourtured, and/or hung as acceptable means of punishment. Maybe they as a race are hard on their children because of the harsh punishments that were inflicted upon them from the first hours that their ancestors being captured from Africa and forced into free labor for hundreds of years. The generations succeeding them, both on the victim and perpetrators sides, should be offered help in handling more appropriate ways of punishment so that future generations can find a better way of punishment for their children.

    November 11, 2011 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • conrad

      Perhaps people could discover that behavior is a CHOICE. When we regard ourselves and others well it is easy to choose to be kind, respectful, and non-criminal. The base human condition is goodness – what we see now is a consequence of lots of damage to the human psyche being passed on from generation to generation.

      November 13, 2011 at 1:06 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        The basic social conditioning might be consideration but that is NOT the basic human response. Consideration is a by product of civilization. The basic human condition is survival and that usually involves a lot of selfishness and aggression. As a civilized society and to protect our social groups we learn to cooperate and to be considerate, but that is LEARNED this is why psychology points out the detriment of the ID versus the conscious and superconscious.

        November 13, 2011 at 5:00 am | Report abuse |
  45. Steve

    Do you know where your kids are right now?

    November 11, 2011 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • David in Corpus

      In the dog cage at home in the back bathroom. The padlock will keep that lil' booger in this time. Who knew he could chew the rope I used to secure the door with.

      November 11, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Steve

    Better parents make better kids. Would've been nice to see divorce or single-parent statistics as well. Not saying divorced or single-parents aren't doing a good job, but the majority of child behavioral problems are due to a lack of parental supervision. Not sure how this statistic would correspond to race, but it would be a better comparison than race alone.

    Do you know where your kids are right now?

    November 11, 2011 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      The VAST majority of people in prison are the children of single mothers.

      November 11, 2011 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Visara

        Sorry, that's not even close to being true. Please don't spout off with complete garbage which you made up to try and sound more intelligent than you actually are. Thanks.

        November 11, 2011 at 9:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Visara–it actually IS true. Race not withstanding the avg profile of a criminal comes from a broken home or a home where there was only one parent . This situation is often used to point out why the stability of the family is crucial to the social well being of every child.

        November 13, 2011 at 5:03 am | Report abuse |
  47. Mary Kaye

    How did this get turned into a racial issue?

    November 11, 2011 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
    • David in Corpus

      Your in America, how could it not?

      Thanks alot for the forced integration hippies. If it wasn't for y'all I wouldn't have gotten beaten weekly by b l a c k kids growing up and wouldn't be the toughazz hombre I am now. Being tough gets you the hot chicks, THANKS Again hippies.

      November 11, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        weekly beatings by black kids. Does that mean all black kids beat people weekly or do you realize that you just were plain unlucky?

        November 13, 2011 at 5:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Nick

      It's CNN. How could it not be racist?

      November 12, 2011 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      This is America–it is ALWAYS a racial issue. Once the white judge was found to beat his white daughter, white Americans needed reassurance that as a group, they still were not as bad as blacks. Whites need this kind of reassurance on a weekly basis and have done son since the 1700s. Poor things.

      November 13, 2011 at 5:17 am | Report abuse |
  48. WomenOnGuard

    I don't think race has anything to do with it. Monetary issues is probably the main reason. Poorer people have more frustrations to deal with and are more likely to get aggravated by unruly children.

    November 11, 2011 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
  49. jim

    “Violence begets violence, anger begets anger...." and bad behavior begets bad behavior. If you allow poor behavior to continue you are reinforcing the behavior you do not want. The lack of consequences to actions is what has ruined our school systems and is the main factor in the lack of respect is the last generation. Corporal punishment is one way to instill consequences.

    November 11, 2011 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Whatnow

      I agree. Our real problem is a lack of consequences. Children learn quickly just what they can get away with. We continue to dissect child rearing from every aspect...now by "race". We forget that very young children are not adults. They do not possess the life skills or experiences to determine right from wrong. It is the parents job to make sure they get the message. Some respond to a time out, some respond to a discussion, and some do not. One size does not fit all.

      November 11, 2011 at 10:43 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Take a good look around you. At least twice a week some news org is dissecting race, so the only two racial groups still described as "colors" can see who is "winning" Naturally, since the majority of the orgs are white, they have an unbelievable handicap to ensure the win and the "polls" are always "scientific " (cough) cough..LOL

        November 13, 2011 at 5:56 am | Report abuse |
  50. Honest

    I hate the article. Where I am from, we don't get hung up on our color or race. Yet, the American newscaster is bent on cataloging people by race, color, religion, belief, etc. Why are we still disecting people? One race is no better than the other. One color is no better than another. One belief is no better than another. We are all flawed. We all get dressed the same. We all bleed.

    November 11, 2011 at 9:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Melissa

      Drives me crazy too. I was shocked when I first moved to the US how absolutely obsessed with the color of people skin most people in this country are. I always say that it will only stop meaning something when people stop making it mean something. I don't care what color a persons skin is, I care how they behave.

      Seriously, my husband (he's an American) and I were walking through a walmart parking lot at night and a group of rowdy guys were walking toward us and I instinctively switched my purse to my other shoulder (the one closest to my husband) clutched my purse tighter. My husband noticed the action and remarked on it, asking me if I did it because the guys were black. I honestly hadn't even noticed they were black. I did it because they were being loud, boisterous, and doing things like lightly shoving each other while laughing their heads off while they were walking toward the store. I'm a very small woman, and I didn't want to get hit accidentally while they were walking by, or have my purse yanked out of my hand. I was horrified at the thought of doing it because they were black when my husband brought it up.

      Stop making it such a big deal people. Why can't we all just be people and not have the color of our skin matter so much?

      November 11, 2011 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
      • Bob Saget

        The reason why we are 'obsessed' with it here is because we ARE so diverse and we have to make sure at all times that things are PC or else someone gets sued. I live in Queens, probably the most diverse place on the planet and i can tell you that no one really goes around screaming about it except for the people that LOVE to make a big deal because their lives are lacking.

        Also, i love to hear your argument from foreigners. You know why your countries don't talk about race? Because your either 99% white, 99% black, 99% asian, etc... we here are mixed and actually DO have to deal with problems.

        November 11, 2011 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
      • lol

        Melissa, you did it because they were Black. You would like to think that you didn't, but you did subconsciously. You thought they were going to steal your purse. I've seen it a million times.

        November 11, 2011 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Visara

        That's total crap. You might think you didn't care what race they were, but subconsciously, you did whether you admit to it or not.

        November 11, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        NO Bob–you dissect and put blacks on the bottom continually because WHITES need that reassurance (they are the ones who do these polls and report on them) then you can tell yourself that is just one more reason to dislike "blacks" even though you do not personally know all the blacks you may dislike. It is a reassurance tool–but pray tell–WHY do whites need so much reassurance so often? Before there was even a word like PC and even before Civil rights, whites compared themselves to blacks and still do. Even after centuries reporting to themselves that they are smarter, healthier, more attractive, richer, etc they still need weekly reporting. WHY is that? If blacks are on the bottom, why do Whites continue to watch and compare themselves to blacks in all aspects of life on a weekly basis. WHAT IS YOUR BAROMETER AND WHY BLACKS AND NOT THE OTHER RACES. It is not about PC it is about white insecurities.

        November 13, 2011 at 5:21 am | Report abuse |
  51. ogalsnorf

    Man talk about a racist news story. Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson now. I can't believe they printed this blaming slavery, religion and skin color. I think black mom should be commended for trying the hardest to keep their kids inline and to grow into responsible adults.

    November 11, 2011 at 9:40 am | Report abuse |
  52. ted

    no results for white poeple . lol figures,america... (canada here)

    November 11, 2011 at 8:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Suzanne

      "79% of white parents,"

      November 11, 2011 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        79% of 200 million (whites) is sure a lot larger than 89% of 45 million (blacks) so which group is being more? Statistics are just mathematical formulas to hide or manipulate numbers to make a point by the pollsters. The real facts are more whites in prison, more whites on welfare, more white youth doing drugs now, and more whites beating, no matter how you play with those numbers. But please keep on with the stats–you need them weekly because even whites know deep down the info is bs.

        November 13, 2011 at 6:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Use your eyes

      November 11, 2011 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Visara

      It's called "reading." Look into it.

      November 11, 2011 at 9:35 pm | Report abuse |
  53. ShoodenWoos

    Well, abuse is one thing, but I would certainly have preferred one smack on the butt than the highly religious blackmailing "dear God sees it all verbal subjugation" I experienced myself. What struck me in US relatives, however, is a vicious 'pinching under the table' in a family setting. Now that kind of sneaky violence would cause a lot of upheaval in my culture.

    November 11, 2011 at 7:49 am | Report abuse |
  54. dude

    great article. coming out and saying that blacks beat their kids the most right when a video of a white guy completely demolishing a girl's soul goes viral. good job media.

    November 11, 2011 at 7:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Visara

      They're referring to the massive scale, not one incident that went viral on the internet. Please use your brain before posting.

      November 11, 2011 at 9:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Yeah..but the timing..why was that? were white people needing the reassurance of knowing that 20,000 people were interviewed and based on what they said they have "proven" blacks beat their kids more? does it change the fact that a white judge beat his white daughter and she taped it and it went viral? The timing is rather unusual–er...not really they had to "set the record straight" PS–IT FOOLS NO ONE–EXCEPT MAYBE DESPERATE WHITE PEOPLE SEEKING EXONERATION. lol

        November 13, 2011 at 5:23 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Like I said: 89% of 45 million blacks vs 79% of 200 million whites which group has and is beating more? YEAH we know–ON A MASSIVE SCALE, right? Visara?

        November 13, 2011 at 6:26 am | Report abuse |
  55. manuela doliveira

    Were there significant differences found overall and between groups? Percentages say nothing about significant differences, they only show that very high numbers of parents, regardless of race, adopt the procedure! This is the only real result.

    November 11, 2011 at 7:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Suzanne

      A 10% difference is likely a significant difference. It's usually a matter of +/- 3 percentage points and this definitely goes over that.

      Looks to me like this could be explained, in part, by socioeconomic status. People of Asian decent make a bit more money than whites, I think, and Whites definitely make more money than Blacks.

      November 11, 2011 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Well..Suzanne–it COULD be a significant differential IF we believe that each group was representative of the whole and IF we believe each group answered honestly but that is the problem with a lot of stats and why most are no longer considered scientific–to be scientific the questioning would have to be controlled and the answers a true representation–how can that be so? It could be that the places called beat their kids more–or that those demographics and locations lie about what they do more–too many variables-another FAIL trying to pass itself off as scientific.

        meanwhile, the FACT is that a white judge from a family court beat his daughter who videotaped it and then released it when he was going to take her mercedes away. THAT is the only "fact" in all of this we can truly be certain of.

        November 13, 2011 at 5:27 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        They have found similar differentials for white drug use (more whites using drugs than blacks now) for prison (more whites in prison than blacks) and for welfare (over 75% of welfare recipients are white) do you believe those stats? Or is all of that questionable oh yeah (over 95% of those seeking help for infertility or seeking to adopt are white) over 98% of serial killers are white, over 80% of mass murderers in the US are white–100% of teachers caught molesting students are white–think those things have to do with socio economic status?

        November 13, 2011 at 5:30 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Silly people. I was married to a man from "Asia" and also lived in Taiwan. They most certainly believe in corporal punishment not only for their kids but for criminals (beaten in public squares) what they do not believe in is sharing information like that with strangers especially white people. There are things to keep private and things to say to keep a public face. Nothing is worse than losing face and to prevent that, even lying is acceptable. A poll like this will NEVER learn how Asians think of what they do–they would not dream of contributing meaningfully to such an intrusive (and to many Asian minds) barbaric, a study. (the barbarism comes from strangers/outsiders wishing to know personal business –not from beatings.)

        suzanne (and others like her) actually assume everyone answers a poll by strangers–with no clue to other race's responses to such an intrusion. You probably also think Asians by and large, like white people.

        November 13, 2011 at 5:59 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        That would be like noting 98% of serial killers are white then presuming that 98% of whites kill people. The 98% are not representative of the whole but unlike white people most other races do not attribute bad traits to an entire race due to a few, then label the entire group for it and use it as justification to mistreat them. But then every other race is not continually comparing themselves so they can reassure themselves of where they stand vs another race– Yet another difference between whites and other races.

        November 13, 2011 at 6:30 am | Report abuse |
  56. Ramon

    Kids now and days need a good beating. I remember getting beat with switches, power cords, hot wheel race tracks(the orange ones), belt buckles and I still grew up to become a sucessful person. I got the beatings because I was a BAD BAD kid and my parents loved me enough to discipline me to put me on the correct path.

    November 11, 2011 at 6:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Sounds like the beating with the switch didnt prevent you from getting beat with the power cord which didnt prevent you fromgetting beat with the hot wheel track which didnt prevent you from getting beat with the the belt buckle

      November 11, 2011 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        word to the wise (from another "bad kid" whippings effectiveness are only as good as the memory of them and that often pales against the next great adventure –I'll tell you what never works–talking to a kid who does not want to listen (I often put my hands in my ears and sang real loud) or time outs–loved time outs –great for day dreaming or grounding–lots to do in my room–the only punishment that deterred me was the belt and only if you reminded me of the possibility BEFORE I got on a roll.

        November 13, 2011 at 5:33 am | Report abuse |
    • conrad

      Uh ... kids who are BAD BAD are responding to BAD BAD parenting.

      I hope you don't still think you are BAD.

      November 13, 2011 at 1:13 am | Report abuse |
  57. Huss Masters

    when you going to publish an article about what news corporation is most likely to fabricate a story to push an agenda? Also you should be ashamed of this article! CNN=racial stereo typing spin doctors, second to fox.

    November 11, 2011 at 5:19 am | Report abuse |
    • kat

      what is the point of this article? how will it benefit our society as a whole? why the stereotype? so sick of americans preaching social unity, when they have more racial tensions than any other country i have visited or lived in. we are our own enemy. so sad.

      November 11, 2011 at 5:44 am | Report abuse |
  58. Kevin

    I think the statistic for asian parents is a big fat lie. It makes the whole article look factually wrong!!

    November 11, 2011 at 4:31 am | Report abuse |
    • s. Lutz

      Asian parents typically have absurd, cruel high expectations of their Children and are notorious for beating them when they don't make the grade. I feel the statistic here is too low. Beating children perpetuates a Cycle of violence. We never Hit our Kids. They are delightful and gentle. It is a priviledge to parent them.

      November 11, 2011 at 6:37 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Very few first of second generational Asian parents would answer such questions as what goes on in their household, truthfully. At all times, public face is paramount, which means it is more important to appear a certain way, rather it is true or not. Yes, Asians do hit not only children but servants and daughters in laws. LOL

        November 13, 2011 at 6:01 am | Report abuse |
  59. Roy from Finland

    For dear sake!! It is absolutely irrelevant what social or ethnic group uses more corporal punishment! It just should NOT be done at all!! A 10% margin between whites and blacks is stupid. In Finland corporal punishment is likely as low as 10% and we have a great society, low crime rate and excellent school graduation turnouts. Corporal punishment is an old trend in USA that does not go away in that extreme ""Conservative"" backward environment. Shame on you, educate yourselves and learn a more moral ways of handling disobedient children!!

    November 11, 2011 at 3:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Dawn

      Roy from Finland, good post!

      November 11, 2011 at 6:25 am | Report abuse |
    • s. Lutz

      Yes...you are so right. Physical violence on every level is a nightmare.

      November 11, 2011 at 6:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      A good education would help. Sadly, you won't get one in US public schools

      November 11, 2011 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Visara

      You sir, use too many exclamation points.

      November 11, 2011 at 9:37 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Bernard

    Obama, please make a speech!

    November 11, 2011 at 2:33 am | Report abuse |
  61. Truth

    99% of parents regardless of race who shop at walmart use corporal punishment. Nine times out of ten it will be there in the store

    November 11, 2011 at 12:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Kate

      That is the Truth for sure. You see at least 10 kids get slapped just walking in Walmart

      November 11, 2011 at 4:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Fletch

      99%? That number is way too low, my friend.

      November 11, 2011 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • SoTrue2710

      Why would you spout crap like that? If you're not going to base your comments on facts, then you're just venting nonsense...get a clue?

      November 12, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • conrad

        It was a joke ...

        November 13, 2011 at 1:16 am | Report abuse |
  62. Joseph Huff

    Poussaint, Poussaint, Poussaint. I wonder if Dr. Poussaint has any children. It seems to me that people who seems to think they know the most about rearing children are those who have no children. Now on one hand, you have a man with a Ph.D. On the the other hand there is God. Who are you going to believe? As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

    November 11, 2011 at 12:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Rezn

      Well, since "God" has never spoken for his or herself, I'll take the PhD's word for it.

      November 11, 2011 at 2:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Stu

      Perfect!!! Trust an imaginary being with the welfare of your children. You need to be in a straitjacket. Also, if the Federal Government is going to force me to pay to educate the children of others, then I should have a say in how that child is raised. So, beat your child if you want, just don't let me witness it. I will beat you to a bloody pulp if i do.

      November 11, 2011 at 3:24 am | Report abuse |
    • s. Lutz

      I have Not Seen the Lord disciplining too many naughty children.....but good luck to you and your faith.

      November 11, 2011 at 6:42 am | Report abuse |
    • mo

      Dr. P has an "MD"...if you want to question his expertise at least get his credentials right. Also the part where he said parents get defensive...i guess you proved him correct.

      November 11, 2011 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
    • conrad

      I think people make stuff up and write books to make money ...

      November 13, 2011 at 1:17 am | Report abuse |
  63. 42Ocowboy

    The tone of this article seems to be a little skewed, 89% is barely 10% over 'whites', I wouldn't really consider that to be "so much more." And even though it's considerably higher that Asians you should take into account that many Asians inflict a special brand of punishment on their children by over-disciplining the life out of them, so... Not all Asians of course.

    November 10, 2011 at 11:18 pm | Report abuse |
  64. justsaying

    Thats very racist, I guess i would be wrong to stay that white people are more likely to become serial killers, rapist, child molestors, and without any hesistance will kill their spouses or children.

    November 10, 2011 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • topvillain

      Nope, you are correct

      November 11, 2011 at 6:43 am | Report abuse |
    • stereotype much?

      I guess you missed the four african american men who gang raped the 74 year old hispanic male in texas. Guess you missed the black man who raped a 2 month old recently. Guess you miss John Lee Malvo. African American parenting is a joke and everybody knows it. We don't need an article from these chowderheads to know that.

      November 12, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
  65. Joe

    I like the old way of punishment and thats a good old whipping. I a kide dose something bad and all you do is give them a Disaponting look. A belt or swich is the way to go.

    November 10, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Johnny Salami

      "I a kide dose something bad and all you do is give them a Disaponting look."

      Dunces who can't spell or write should be flogged.

      November 10, 2011 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Tensai 13

    A quick light spontaneous slap on the butt or wrist of a 4 or 5 year old who won't obey is acceptable but a prolonged beating with hands, fists, or belts and whips at any age is totally unacceptable at ANY age and should always result in jail time for the perpetrator whether parent, guardian or teacher. The willful beating of children always results in long lasting pronounced psychological, cognitive, and social damage on many different levels.

    November 10, 2011 at 8:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      How long is to long? I like the idea of spaking a kide with a belt a few times it shows them that ther not the center of the world.

      November 10, 2011 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • American Patriot

        I like the idea of beating you with a baseball bat.

        November 10, 2011 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • PrestonCarpenter

        I think that American Patriot is a great example of the kind of person that needs one of those "your an idiot, and straighten up" beatings that u were talking about joe

        November 10, 2011 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • lissa

      This is a very white middle/upper class opinion and a US/Western European one. There are some other cultures that would feel if you didn't beat a child when they did something wrong than you were a bad parent. The children don't grow up with problems because it is natural for the whole culture. I believe people in the US need to learn more about other ways of doing things and cultures to become less judgmental. I am by no way advocating for beating children. I am just saying that to make statements like this you should remember that there is a big world out there with very different ways of doing things.

      November 10, 2011 at 9:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • @lissa

        Your funny for making a statement out there that this is a very Middle Class US/European/western opinion? Where do you think we live in an all black/mexican/latino no those are only minorities! This opinion of parenting sticks because we have concluded it has bad aftermath and side effects to growing children's psychi! SO looking at other cultures is pointless.. Sorry!

        November 11, 2011 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        @lissa–it is called ethnocentrism and may explain why despite the overwhelming and obvious "superiority " of whites, most races ignore when whites think when it comes to their personal lives.

        November 13, 2011 at 6:04 am | Report abuse |
    • ron mcloughlin

      Absolutely NOT. There is no reason whatsoever to hit a child. If U cant use reasoning or depriving the child of privileges as solutions to disciplining then U dont deserve to have a child. Pleze read Sweden's most recent LEGALIZING a law that prohibits hitting a child. All hail to Sweden & its advanced socialization.NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO HIT ANYONE. If U hit yor child you'll hit yor wife/husband,too.

      November 10, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dearypie

      Whether I steal 1 item or 10 from a store, I am considered a shop-lifter. So whether I hit my child "lightly" as you put it or hard, I am still abusing my child. Violence begets violence. Most often parents hit their children when they are upset, frustrated, and/or angry. It's rarely carried out in a calm well thought out manner. Think to yourself what is it that I am teaching my child when I hit him/her? Am I equipping them to handle conflict in a positive and assertive way? If the answer is no, then you need to stop and change the way you discipline.

      November 10, 2011 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Edgar Lopez

    I grew up having my dad use physical violence as a way to discipline my behavior. I think his reason for using physical violence, (coming from a small pueblo in mexico, and having little educational background and because his dad used that method on him, therefore he found it reasonable to use the same tradition on me). going on, if I was to not listen to him and stubbornly ignore him, he would whip until i obeyed his will. He never used a good communication with me to better my understanding of the situation. i would always ask him "BUT WHY" and he would always respond "BECAUSE I SAY SO". today he tells me that he is proud that his fathe used the whipping methog on hm because it made him tough but in my case it rather depressed me. Should we use better communication or physical punishment to discipline our children?????

    November 10, 2011 at 8:06 pm | Report abuse |
  68. myslant

    The form of verbal abuse I'm referring to is a barrage of curse words and other sharp tongued demeaning language as well as threats of physical harm spoken by African American parents (mostly women) to their very young children.

    November 10, 2011 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hello...

      Thanks for the stereotype...I am a successful independent black women...and I have never used a curse word at my children.

      November 10, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan G

        The article was not stereotyping anyone, you just didn't read, like 2/3rds of the people who comment in here didn't read all the way through.

        November 11, 2011 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
      • zombie kid

        Right! But you still beat them like rented mules!

        November 12, 2011 at 3:12 am | Report abuse |
    • sean

      myslant, i don't mean this as an insult, but you should look into some undoing racism workshops for yourself. no shame in it.

      November 10, 2011 at 10:47 pm | Report abuse |
  69. chuck

    can we please just take the "african" part of it out . i realize people have roots but honestly how far do those roots go back before you can call yourself a true african american? if i wanted to i could go around calling myself icelandic-scotch-english-czech-american. as soon as you are am american citizen you are just that AMERICAN. skin color has nothing to do with it.

    November 10, 2011 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • GoodShepard

      First off your comparison is flawed because, africa is a continent not a country, this survey was to reflect cultural groups, because of long segregation afro-americans are culturally different than many of their counterparts in america.

      November 10, 2011 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sparkandsnoot

        I agree, since Africa IS a continent. I always identify myself as Northwest European American. Except when we talk color, then I'm a Spotted American. It takes too long to break out the different countries in one's heritage.

        November 10, 2011 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • sean

      chuck, see comment above to myslant. if you think skin color is irrelevant in america you need to open your eyes.

      November 10, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • April

      I agree with you 100% white people are not called "Euro Americans" and there are so mnay black families that have been Americans for generations whats with the Afro American label? They do not know anything about living in Africa than I do about living in Europe since my family came here in the 1800's.

      November 10, 2011 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
  70. rad666

    More people should use corporal punishment; I had the wonderful experience of sitting behind the ultimate white yuppies parents last week in a restaurant, the kids came roaring into the place screeching like banshees. Dad came ahead and got a table for the precious little family. The kids proceeded to stand on the booth seats, hang over the back of the booth and stare at us while we finished, when they did sit they kicked the booth, not once did they tell them to stop ANY of this behavior. In addition, I had to listen to the conversation about what the 4 year old wanted to wear to some event and her telling the mother no she was not wearing that.
    You know come to think I wanted to smack them all

    My son when he was younger would have gotten one warning and then taken outside where he would have been told if it continued he was getting s smack.

    And just to be clear. I am a single parent, he is a grown man now, graduated from school and going to the police academy. Seems well adjusted enough except that like his mother he has a big mouth and likes to tell it the way it is, and that gets him in trouble
    .

    November 10, 2011 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sparkandsnoot

      I would like to see the recent immigrants from far away take more control of their children. They run wild through stores, destroying anything in their paths. I once saw a mother with four under the age of 6 stand there and watch while hers climbed up on a display in Walmart and knock it over. At my brother's apartment complex, the maintenance men are always shooing them out of the dumpster.

      November 10, 2011 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Whatnow

      rad666...I know exactly what you mean. It seems like every single time my husband and I go out to eat, this happens. The parents sit their and either ignore it or make excuses. Yet, they do nothing to stop the behavior. Somewhere along the way, parents decided that their childrens behavior should be acceptable to all. No consequences is the problem.

      November 11, 2011 at 8:37 am | Report abuse |
  71. Amy Chua

    For Tiger Mom parenting tips, see the following YouTube videos. Search for:

    Corporal Punishment in South Korea with Eng sub
    Painful Lessons – South Korea

    Black parents have nothing on Asian parents! Let us Tigers show you pansies how it's done! Asians, represent!

    November 10, 2011 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
  72. hi

    I promise that that it's actually 100% for Asians. But the 27% of the students that denied this truth were trained well

    November 10, 2011 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • T Lane

      funny

      November 10, 2011 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • turtledove

      I agree that this study is biased in that African Americans are probably less ashamed to admit it than others but that doesn't mean they actually do it more than others.

      November 10, 2011 at 11:23 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Amy Chua

    Asian parents beat their children the least?! Tiger parents be slippin'. Meet your beating quotas, Asian parents! You can't be perceived as being soft on children. We gotta keep those world Math and Science rankings up for Asians. Spare the rod, spoil the child!

    November 10, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • jdoe

      Or maybe some of them figured out that violence is not conducing toward good learning.

      November 11, 2011 at 11:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        I was married to a man from "Asia" and also lived in Taiwan. They most certainly believe in corporal punishment not only for their kids but for criminals (beaten in public squares) what they do not believe in is sharing information like that with strangers especially white people. There are things to keep private and things to say to keep a public face. Nothing is worse than losing face and to prevent that, even lying is acceptable. A poll like this will NEVER learn how Asians think of what they do–they would not dream of contributing meaningfully to such an intrusive (and to many Asian minds) barbaric, a study. (the barbarism comes from strangers/outsiders wishing to know personal business –not from beatings.)

        November 13, 2011 at 5:48 am | Report abuse |
  74. tiredahhearinit

    i have heard black parents use the f word,the n word,and assorted other foul words at [i am guessing] their children in public. i am not surprised at it regarding what i see each day at work. most of the birth notices in the paper list only the mother. and to kjc,blaming every problem in this country on slavery and racism,a growing amount of the population are tiring of the same old sh–,different day,so you get real.

    November 10, 2011 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wake Up

      I have heard parents of ALL races berate and degrade their children in public. This is not a "black" problem but an American one. The frustration of poverty and helplessness bound with ignorance will lead to that sort parental foolishness. Is slavery still a factor in 2011? You better believe it. And it is because certain political groups have coddled the impoverished and uneducated instead of empowering them. The family unit is under serious assault; many of these outrageous acts committed by parents are usually done by young, single mothers who are in the cycle of being unwed, uneducated and on some form of welfare.

      November 10, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • T Lane

        Amen, exactly what I was thinking. What is wrong with these people?

        November 10, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • myslant

        I am suspect there must be some parents of other races/ethnicities who engage in this form of verbal abuse toward their children, but it is overwhelmingly a problem with African Americans. Personally, I have never witnessed this sort of abuse among any group of people EXCEPT African Americans – and I have witnessed many, many instances of such over the years.

        November 10, 2011 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • trey

        You have seen many instances? How many 1,2,,3? There are millions of blacks on this planet and i am sure you dont know millions of blacks so for you to decide that most blacks curse at thier kids is a small minded observation.

        November 12, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • myslant

        For the sake of clarification, the form of verbal abuse I'm referring to is a barrage of curse words and other sharp tongued demeaning language as well as threats of physical harm spoken by African American parents (mostly women) to their very young children.

        November 10, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • T Lane

      Whites do too. Did you miss the video of the judge beating and cursing his daughter? I'm not in agreement with anyone talking in such an offensive manner to a child. But it's not a race thing. It's a people thing. Please stop making such ignorant statements.

      November 10, 2011 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Guest

    First,those are still pretty high percentages.Even then,theres still only a disparity of 10%.Im still inclined to believe its more lower income people that do it,but they say its even.

    It looks like everyone beats their kids. What does that say about all of us?

    November 10, 2011 at 5:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      It says at least 11-25% are NOt beating their kids and we can safely assume that those are :

      1. the bad black kids who end up in gangs or selling drugs or shooting crack

      2. The bad white kids who yell and scream at their parents

      3. the bad white kids who run through stores, and kick seats on planes, in theaters and throw tantrums while "mommy" tells them why they must stop

      4. The bad white kids who do meth, or grow up to beat the crap out of their parents or shoot everyone in the household then blame it on a nefarious black man

      5. The few Asians who end up going to schools or Army bases and killing at least 10 people at a time

      6. the more than a few white kids who end up killing their parents or going to their hs school to kill people.

      Yep. That must be it.

      November 13, 2011 at 6:39 am | Report abuse |
  76. NotAmused

    This article is truly biased. Any study can be slanted to garner the desired outcomes. I would like to know the numbers of the postive outcomes of children who were physically disciplined (not abused) by their parents verses the negative. I am sure there is research out there that contradicts this one.

    November 10, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
  77. ELLA

    If you can't discipline your child without resorting to violence YOU FAIL AS A PARENT sorry to say!

    November 10, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • BlackMilitant6598

      Martin Luther King was disciplined as a child with corporal punishment, did his parents fail Ella?

      November 10, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
  78. myslant

    I am not surprised by the reported statistics. I live in the NYC metropolitan area, and I have witnessed many, many instances of verbal abuse by African American parents (mostly women) directed at their young children. It made me so angry that I was tempted on several occasions to intervene (but never did). These innocent children were subjected to a barrage of curse words and other sharp tongued demeaning language as well as threats of physical harm. I never forgot one particular threat made by a mother to her young boy. She said "if you don't -, I'll take the skin off of your f–king a-s." In addition, I notice that many African American parents are physically rough with their young. I remember one small child being lifted up off the ground by her arms! A young child has a fragile mind and body. Young children require unconditional love, support and tenderness. They cannot take the above mentioned abuse and be expected to grow up to be well adjusted (indeed well mannered)adults. It is no wonder that there is a disproportionate number of African Americans who are charged with violent crimes.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lynette

      Likewise, if Blacks were so successful in there preferred choice of discipline, why do we still trail in education, economics, while having a disproportionate amount of people in jail, etc? One of the purposes of discipline is to teach self control...and Blacks, we have not effectively done that.

      November 10, 2011 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • turtledove

        An injust justice system is why so many black people, especially black men, are in jail.

        November 10, 2011 at 11:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Maybe the "successful few" are the disciplined ones and the ones who do not discipline have the bad gang banging ones?

        November 13, 2011 at 6:40 am | Report abuse |
    • BlackMilitant6598

      let me give a word of advice never ever, ever, ever intervene when a black parent is diciplined their child in the public it is seen as the utmost disrepect which can get you hurt or killed.

      November 10, 2011 at 10:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        F that, don't beat your kids in public where there are surveillance cameras and witnesses, do it in the privacy of your own home.

        November 11, 2011 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Steve–if you get involved with a black parent and their kid, odds are high that both parent and child will double team you or if more kids are there, triple team you and if other parents are around and your are white, you may find yourself facing a mob who does not take kindly to white people continually trying to micromanage other races. BlackMilitant is giving you some good advice. A person got up in my business when I was fussing at my son and I had to grab him and almost throw him to the ground (he would have had to let me do that since he was a strapping 6 foot plus) to keep him from jumping on the interfering person.

        November 13, 2011 at 6:54 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        The other problem is–interfering people make it even worse for the child when the parent goes home, because they not only are still mad at the child but they also blame the child for the interference. If you are not seeing something to call CPS–best to stay out of it–otherwise, the parent may well not only whip the child for whatever–that child may also get whipped and blamed for that "white person jumping in their business" This also applies to seeing a woman getting beat. Either take steps to remove the woman, or be prepared to face down her and her man (or kids and their parent) AND be prepared to have the blood of that kid on YOUR hands for interfering.

        November 13, 2011 at 6:58 am | Report abuse |
  79. MyViewpoint294

    This article is simply stating that lower income people in general have a long history of using corporal punishment against their kids (probably because they are under greater economic stress), and that unfortunately, because African-American people have had to deal with systemic inequality and racism, that there are a disproportionate number of African American people who happen to be members of the working class.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • BlackMilitant6598

      aint got shyt to do with economics, slavery, or anything else you white liberals can come up with, your kids are no better than black kids, our children have a hell of lot more respect for their parents. I have seen how your kids the way they treat you like shyt in the public asthough you are the child. Go figure.

      November 10, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • @blackmilitant

        Black kids are better than white kids? Black kids over whelming don't listen.. THeir stubborn and they bully each other way more often .. trust me i went to a black school .. they get in alot more trouble!

        November 11, 2011 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        @blackmilitant–you let your insecurities show. Blackmilitant did NOT say black kids were better, he said that white kids were no better (meaning that both kinds of kids are pretty much equal) and without a doubt, I have seen more white kids, threaten, yell, kick and hit their parents and to be honest, I have never seen a black kid do that. Maybe a few who did it. Maybe Marvin Gaye was one. I know his daddy shot him for being "disrespectful" too.

        November 13, 2011 at 7:01 am | Report abuse |
  80. Sara

    Everyone decries this as racist, but it's not an opinion piece. It's based on statistics, and those statistics point to differences within racial communities. For example, if black women are more likely to have heart disease than white women, we don't decry that study as racist, do we? THOSE RACIST DOCTORS, PUBLISHING THOSE STUDIES.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      Everything with mathematics or stats is NOT Scientific. A study worded this way is not scientific. A study with no parameters or control groups is not scientific.
      A study which cannot be qualified or quantified is not scientific I don't care who conducts the study. To be scientific, there must be an established hypothesis or theory and a prescribed way to go about proving a hypotheses or theory.

      When you see "polls" which state any information, they are at best sociological tools but they are NOT scientific. The reason they are not is that there are NO controls. There is no way to discern how many people are lying and to what degree they are lying also there is no way to truly extrapolate the statistic when in a 20,000 poll, if calls are random there is no way to ensure a definitive representative of each demographic. If there is a way to ensure it, then the very act of ensuring a certain demographic to get results indicates a manipulation of data and therefore a NON Scientific poll. (I am a Scientist)

      November 13, 2011 at 7:06 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      When you read information about white women vs black women and propensity for disease, this is also racist–but it is allowed under the guise of determining who has more heart disease–however such information does not rely on opinions or poll questions but on actual data obtained from hospitals, clinics, doctors, pharmacies and insurance companies NOT from opinions over phones. Such information is also far from conclusive but it provides more results because the data obtained is objective and qualifiable unlike the information in a poll about personal data which people often are not truthful or completely forthcoming about no matter how anonymity is declared.

      November 13, 2011 at 7:10 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        The information is racist because it pits one race against another for the purpose of solely comparing health by race, whereby one is perceived as more healthy or superior to the other. This act is racist and usually only has the purpose of lodging in everyone's mind the longevity and healthiness of whites as compared to blacks–when this is done with no regard for all the other races including Native Americans, this underlines the sole purpose was for sociological comparison and not remedy–ergo RACIST.

        November 13, 2011 at 7:12 am | Report abuse |
  81. Pertnear

    I can't believe this article – blacks are more apt to hit their kids because of slavery? Oh pleeeeeeeease – sorry, but I do not know of anyone who says the struggles of their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents still has an influence on their lives. Let the slavery excuse die – there is absolutely nothing about slavery that is an influence in anyone's lives today. Anyone using that as an excuse is just looking for an excuse.

    November 10, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • mike

      Uh, it's more like great-grandparents, not 12 greats. And abuse is something that "runs" in families. I shouldn't be that surprising that a group shown brutality will continue to have harsher punishments for several generations.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • KJC

      I am a white person, but that is just plain ignorant. Let's see, the 15th Amendment was in 1870, so that would be a few generations back. Maybe my great great grandmother's time. (I still have a great grandmother living, so that's not actually that long ago.) Then let's see, when was it that African Americans were no longer forced to use separate fountains, sit in the back of the bus, and attend separate and clearly inferior schools? When was it that African Americans were being hanged from trees and constantly reminded that they were still seen as inferior (like slaves)? Pretty much ever sicne the abolition of slavery until the Civil Right Movement. So sometime around the 1960's? So let's see, that was during the lifetimes of a lot of people in the prime of adulthood today. Many of the adult African American men and women I work can recall being treated significantly differently in their lfietime due to the continuing effects of slavery in this country. Get real.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • T

        James Byrd pulled from the back of a truck until his head popped off simply because he was black. It’s the same as a lynching to me. Google it and get informed. Racism still exist, white folks deny it and keep each other’s secrets just like the Penn State situation. No moral scruples.

        November 10, 2011 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Scowl

        Your assertion that all white people lack moral scruples is in itself racist. It goes both ways, friend.

        November 12, 2011 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • mee

      i agree with u....

      November 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Pat

    where is my post?

    November 10, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Terry

      My didn't make it either for some unknown reason.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  83. honest abe

    Here we go again. another author making corporal punishment a black thing! WOW... maybe he could suggest changing the name from corporal punishment to "Africanized Child Management". The name African is always placed in front of another word to establish it as BAD. Africanized bees.....

    November 10, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • radio1981

      Really?? You just typed that out, and read it to yourself, and STILL hit post? Africanized bees come from Africa.. Name another thing that is, "Bad", that starts with African.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Based on white people "African Americans" African AIDS, African encephalitis, African trypanasoma rhodesians–maybe it would have been better to use the term "black" which is often used to denote evil or bad things right? "black magic, black death, black humor, black heart, black people, black hole, black countenance, black October, black Monday, man in black, black hat, black temper , black sabbath or maybe the term dark? dark conscience, dark side, dark humor, darkie, dark thoughts....or maybe flesh–wait–flesh is beige–anything darker than that is not flesh. come to think of it –in terms of color "natural" is pale beige too, anything darker than that is not natural...and dark beige–means anything darker than THAT–isn't well.. does not count? dark prophecy.........kept in the dark...black out....Aficanized, dark, black, child rearing? Black people ARE from AFrica no matter how much whites want to pretend they are from no where and are just "black" because whites want to maintain an opposite to their depiction of themselves as "White" see that girl in the picture? Her skin is brown–not black and her ethnicity is AFRICAN–though it also may be other things....deal with it.

        November 13, 2011 at 7:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Sara

      The author is not making it out as a black thing. He's reporting on a study that shows a tendency toward corporal punishment in MINORITY communities. First, minority doesn't always mean black. Second, it's not the author who came up with those stats– those stats came from a pool of participants. It's no more racist than pointing out that black women are under higher risk of heart disease than the rest of society.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • BlackMilitant6598

        I got a study lets se how many of white chidren murder their parents you would be amazed.

        November 10, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        African American, European American...

        We live in America people, We Are Americans. Time to drop the race cards and get on with our lives.

        November 11, 2011 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        You are not very bright. comparison of a physical disease is a quantifiable and verifiable fact based on available data. A poll is not quantifiable or verfiable because it is based on an opinion or whim and is subject to whatever the participant feels like saying, not to mention no allowances were madefor geographic regions or socio economic levels which means the study was flawed at best–Pseudo –science (like the great "female attractive study") at worst.

        November 13, 2011 at 7:29 am | Report abuse |
  84. lhpogo

    Reminds me of the comedian Russell Peter's standup routine: "White people, you need to beat your kids, they feel left out at school with all the minority kids talking about the whooping they got last night."

    November 10, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Victor

    2 sides to every story- I think maybe if more parents laid down the law and held their kids responsible for their actions then there would be a lot less of those little smart mouthed punks running around disrespecting adults and committing crimes. Kids these days dont know the meaning of responsibility or manners or for that common decency. Dont abuse your kids by any means but there is a difference between punishment and abuse.

    November 10, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • AcclaimedMan

      I agree.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Diana

      Victor, there are ways to hold children accountable for their actions without resorting to physical violence. I remember growing up and my mother looking me straight in the eye and saying "I am disappointed in you; I never thought you would do this " I felt awful because I so wanted her to be proud of me. I also wanted certain privileges that I would lose, like being able to stay up a little later and read a favourite book or go for a trip to the mall and lunch. Parents need to get the message that their kids need to do the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do, not out of fear. Creating an atmosphere of violence in a home is not the right thing to do; Enforcing moral and decent behaviour by example is a far better answer.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Rick

    There is just to many ways now days to punish children. Rather than whippin them. it doesnt make sense.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • jb

      "too"" not to, hopefully your kids are not home schooled.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Except for when it does make sense. What doesn't make sense is taking a tool out of your tool box. If you look at the story at least 73% of parents use whipping and are they suggesting at minnimum 73% of the population is emotionally disturbed? There are alot of methods and wheather they are appropriate or not depends on the particular situation.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  87. chicagok

    How can they ban violence when they permit drug gangs to kill people! How can they ban violence and let football be played, boxing, wrestling, .... Physical punishment is the only thing ignorant people understand. And half of the population is below average and ignorant!

    November 10, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • BostonA

      @ Chicago: Your argument makes zero sense. No one permits gangs to kill, it's a crime called murder. Physical contact in sports has absolutley no nothing to do with either intelligence or striking a child as punishment. People choose to play sports. Children don't choose to get beaten. I find it amazing that you call half the population ignorant when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Which, by the way, is the very definition of ignorance.

      November 10, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Whatweretheythinking

    But boxing is legal. Violent sports, legal. Violence on tv and in music, legal. Let's *truly* be consistent and ban all of this cr*p!!!!!

    November 10, 2011 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Punkass

      You might be insane. Physical contact in sports is not the same thing as beating your child. Obviously not a sports fan so I guess you cant see the benefits it brings to our nation. Our past times help us through bad times.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
  89. omg4real

    and minorities are more likely to beat their pets. no tolerance for abuse to children or pets based on ethnicity. that rationale has got to go along with medieval torture, slavery and the earth is flat mentality. come on people

    November 10, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • TyroneA

      That's what I say man! Come one dude!

      November 10, 2011 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Matt

    Wow this article is really racists. I guess black people aren't as "smart" according to this writer. Pathetic.

    Also the author cites the Bible but doesn't mention the verse that says "if you spare the rod, you spoil the child."

    November 10, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • ManfredMannn

      Yes, it IS racist, as, by definition, it's making a distinction based on race. That doesn't mean it's a negative thing – it's pointing out that there are significant differences in how parents of different races raise and discipline their kids. That blacks are more prone to use corporal punishment is pretty common knowledge, I'd say. The more interesting question is "why", which this article starts to cover. Frankly I'm suprised CNN even had the guts to publish something that's not PC.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • MomOf3

      The author didn't say it was a biblical scripture, but a psychiatrist said it was a 'biblical imperative'. The actual quote 'spare the rod, spoil the child' isn't in the bible, but several verses have been para-phrased to mean something similar.

      "He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) and "Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14)

      November 10, 2011 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      I guess Matt forgot to read paragraph 7 of the article. In case he can't identify paragraphs, it's the one that starts "Some researchers have suggested it's a legacy left by the brutality of slavery." Finish the paragraph before you post next time boy.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • V. P.

        And I guess your calling someone "boy" is not racist or disrespectful. Get a grip smart guy!

        November 10, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • SuZieCoyote

      Let's see, the ethnic group who hits their children the most finds more of them in jail than any other group. Hmmm. Yes, there is entrenched racism at work and that is terrible. Still, there's something else going on. Any culture that persists in labeling half of themselves as "b1tches" an "h0's" in their "music and slang needs to take a hard look at their culture. This observation has nothing to do with skin color. It ISN'T about color. There are white communities that use violent coercion as "parenting" and likewise call half of themselves the same names or worse. And guess where the lion's share of prison inmates from *that* group comes from? Beat a kid, all you get is a hostile kid. And, a kid who turns their back on their parents, like I did. Thank God that I met decent people after I left home who helped me see the whole world wasn't made up of vicious child abusers.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Hey SuZieCoyote–did you see that associated article that says more white youths are doing drugs now than blacks? Did you know more whites are in prison than blacks? did you know more whites have shot up their schools and killed their own parents than blacks?

        NO?

        Well did you know that more white kids are likely to become serial killers than blacks? Did you know that all teachers who molest their students (mostly minorities) are white? No? did you know that most mass murderers are white? Did you know that most people on welfare are white?

        Guess What? With a record like that, you will have to excuse all the other minority or racial groups who prefer NOT to take white people's advice for what time of day it is, let alone for raising their kids. My kids have high GPAs, have never been to jail or done drugs..they don't talk back to me or disrespect me and I'm betting NONE ever shoot up a school (knock on wood) or come to my home to beat me or shoot me (knock on wood) but then, for stuff like that (I'm betting they will not serial kill or mass murder or rape children either (knock on wood) but then–I'm not white so the odds are in MY favor.

        How about that SuZie? LOL

        November 13, 2011 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        THIS STUDY MEANS MORE WHITES BEAT THEIR KIDS (158 MILLION) THAN ASIAN, BLACK AND HISPANIC COMBINED.You DO realize that is what the numbers means, once you calculate those stats. Is that the reason for the mass murders, the meth epidemic, the serial killling, the child rapes and the parenticide and parental beatings? all rampant among white people?

        November 13, 2011 at 8:41 am | Report abuse |
    • TampaMAN

      Since when are mathematical statistics racially oriented? The numbers are what they are, especially in this case. If you don't like those numbers, THEN you're talking racism.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • T

        The numbers don't say anything

        November 10, 2011 at 7:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        Any statstic that focuses on race as opposed to objective data is racist when the purpose is to compare races. If the purpose was to determine a scientific baseline and used actual scientific criteria it would be different but this poll/study relies on answers from people which may or may not be provable, verifiable or true–the flexibility of just those parameters means that the test is NOT scientific and since the test only appears to want to compare it IS racist. But this is similar to all the other tests and 'studies" and polls whites have been running since the 1700s. as for racism- the main component of racism is the" unfavorable comparison of other races to one's own to prove superiority." If this does not fit that, I don't know what does.

        Ya might want to look that up. and ask yourself why whites continually and consistently compare themselves in every way (except fertility) to blacks....LOL

        November 13, 2011 at 7:56 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        mathematical stats are racist when the sole criterion and objective is race for determining data. Scientific information must be OBJECTIVE to be Scientific and must include any variables which could produce contradictory results. For instance a test that looked at socio economics , education , geography. religion as it pertained to corporal punishment would not be racist because

        1. race would not be a factor
        2. Variables that address or affect corporal punishments would have been explored and considered.

        Socio economics, geography, education and religion are all criteria that crosses all races and the focus would not have been race as it pertains to corporal punishment but factors. As soon as the sole criteria was race, it was racist and since the sole purpose was to show who did something negative the most (thereby rendering all other groups superior) the objective was not only racist, it was very, very flawed. Also given the amount of blacks in the US–45 million, a sampling of 20K in which a % was black would tell NO ONE anything about how many blacks beat unless one assumes that all blacks are alike or even similar based on color or race. Though Herman Cain , Condoleeza Rice and Powell taught you guys better than that.

        RACIST all the way.

        November 13, 2011 at 8:03 am | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        THIS STUDY MEANS MORE WHITES BEAT THEIR KIDS (158 MILLION) THAN ASIAN, BLACK AND HISPANIC COMBINED.You DO realize that is what the numbers means, once you calculate those stats. LOL

        November 13, 2011 at 8:39 am | Report abuse |
  91. gogada

    never hit a child they are gods gift. Instead patience.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ciara

      My mother whooped me and I'm not depressed or have aggression towards anyone and me and my mother have the closset releationship. I know not to disrespect an adult or nor am I out here robbing and killing anyone. It works ,and for those whose disagree wait until a child rises up against you and see if you still think corporal punishment is wrong

      November 10, 2011 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • onlooker

        ditto.

        November 10, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
  92. LCB

    At 65 years old – still in therapy/counseling for all the physical, mental, emotional abuse survived in 'adopted', affluent, catholic family years! Video of that poor TX victim was TAME by comparison to what was dished out every day in the home and school I was 'nurtured' in, for childhood. Glad to see that someone has finally blown the lid off the kettle of this nasty little secret world some of us endured – videos don't lie – and neither did 'we' when seeking help from teachers, clergy, and anyone else who would listen – and believe! They were deaf, or powerless to intervene. Believe it – it's raw truth – and shall never stop hurting.

    November 10, 2011 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sean B

      Sorry to hear that.

      November 10, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  93. A Reasoner

    Parents tend to not hit children once the kids can strike back with equal force.

    November 10, 2011 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • msriss

      I beg to differ. My grandmother was the discipliner in our family and she last physically repremanded me at the age of 16. I could have easily assaulted my then 76yr old grandmother...but her discipline of me over my childhood created RESPECT and I would never raise a finger to her and love her tremendously for keeping is all in line. I find the children that do have the nerve to put hands on their parents are the ones that were not disciplined as a child.

      November 10, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • LCB

        Was it respect? or FEAR . . .

        November 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • ManfredMannn

        Beating someone does not create respect. It creates fear.

        November 10, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • MomOf3

        I don't think msriss is talking about being beaten. There's a huge difference with beating a child and disciplining a child. You can discipline a child and still retain their respect.

        November 10, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • me

      true in my case

      November 12, 2011 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      I know of very few black kids who would strike their parents back–no matter how old or infirm their parents are–parentacide or parent abuse seems to be the purview of white children and the bane of white parents. So does putting up videos of beatings on youtube to get back at parents–VERY WHITE.

      November 13, 2011 at 8:06 am | Report abuse |
  94. Trashcat

    I don't get how race matters. Why does it have to be about race? How does this study educate anyone? It doesn't. Parents raise thier kids how they want, unless they are brualizing the child by leaving bruises or injuries or mentally scarring them then it should be ok.

    November 10, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • msriss

      Agree! Like growthehellup said, 9 out of 10 versus 8 out of 10 is not the alarming difference they tried to make this out to be against Black Americans and it serves zero point.

      November 10, 2011 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  95. growthehellup

    mmm for African Americans it's 90% and others 80% I wouldn't report that as a major ethic difference. Simply mean 9 out of 10 vs 8 out of 10.

    November 10, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  96. VTECH

    Alex in NJ,

    You don't have kids do you?

    November 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
  97. VTECH

    Others said African-American parents, in aggregate, are disproportionately lower-income, have less education and are more likely to follow a religion that implores them not to spare the rod for fear of spoiling the child – all factors that correlate with use of corporal punishment, regardless of race.

    WHAT???

    There is a difference in disciplining your child and beating your child. This person is one of the reasons children are so out of hand today. No discipline. Timeout doesn't work for everyone.

    November 10, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • MA in NJ

      There are other ways besides timeouts. You can try grounding or not allowing them to do an activity that they really love. I want my child to respect me, not be afraid of me. When my son is a little older, he will most definitely be able to hurt me. I don't want him to suddenly act out against me because of anger that has been building up in him due to violence on my part. I want him to understand the reasons why he is expected to behave and not just act in fear of being beaten. That way, when he's not sure how to react to something, hopefully he'll think before he acts.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • MomOf3

        Grounding is just an elaborate system of time-out. It doesn't always work for every child. You're basically saying that you're not disciplining your child now, because you'll be afraid of him when he's bigger than you. So, fear is being instilled...it's just in you, and not them?

        November 10, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • BlackMilitant6598

        Grounding im laughing

        November 10, 2011 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • queenbee10

        White children beat up their parents and kill them more than black children–also a FACT. Maybe you think "grounding is working but your kid is fantasizing about the day they are finally able to beat you up.

        November 13, 2011 at 8:08 am | Report abuse |
  98. Alex in NJ

    You can't have dodgeball in schools anymore for fear of hurting a child's feelings but you can hit them? We have raising kids all messed up. You don't need to hit your kids. Furthermore, how can anything think it should be legal for someone to physically assault someone else, regardless of the age and relationship between the assaulter and assaultee. We don't need to hit, we just need to stop coddling kids by giving everyone a trophy and constantly telling every kid they're a winner. Just let kids lose and experience failure when failure is deserved. That will go so much further than hitting a kids ever could.

    November 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • LOLA

      ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH Alex. WHAT ABOUT A CHILD HIT A PARENT FOR WRONG DOING. NO PHISICAL PANISHMENT. VIOLENCE IS VIOLENCE. I GO FOR NO VIOLENCE.

      November 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      IN the midwest kids DO play dodge ball and the boys play with the girls and hit them ANYWHERE including their faces and in the chest.

      November 13, 2011 at 8:09 am | Report abuse |
    • queenbee10

      Why would you not teach your child to hit and to accept taking a hit? It only makes it harder when they have to start killing men, women and children when you fail to indoctrinate them into the dysfunction and viciousness of the world. (sarcasm intended) non hitting children tend to get bullied and when they do they don't know how to fight back.

      November 13, 2011 at 8:11 am | Report abuse |
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