When CNN met Frances Herbert and Takako Ueda this summer, they were newlyweds - legally married in Vermont - but worried that Ueda would be required to return to her native Japan.
The Defense of Marriage Act prevents the federal government from giving them any benefits, so Herbert can't sponsor Ueda for a green card.
Just this month, the government denied Ueda's application to remain in the United States.
The government sent a letter denying their application and stating that Ueda is "required to depart the United States within 30 days from the date of this decision."
"We know that, ultimately, this wrong will be corrected, and we are committed to working for ourselves, and other families, until it is," said Herbert and Ueda, who first met in 1980. "All any of us want is the ability to protect our families and the freedom to live our lives with the loved ones we choose."
New York immigrant same-sex married couple won't be deported
The organization representing them, Immigration Equality, plans to appeal the administration’s denial of their application, and will continue to work with their Congressional representatives to stop Ueda's deportation.
Although a Senate panel passed a vote to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act last month, it was considered a symbolic vote - there was no chance for the repeal to pass a Republican-led House.
“There has been no change in policy with regards to deportation cases affected by the Defense of Marriage Act," U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesperson Gillian Christensen said. "Pursuant to the Attorney General’s guidance, the Defense of Marriage Act remains in effect and the Executive Branch, including DHS, will continue to enforce it unless and until Congress repeals it or there a final judicial determination that it is unconstitutional."
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What happened to all men are created equal?? I mean seriously!!! The LGBT community are people too!!! They deserve the same rights as everybody else!!!!
All men are created equal, not women. Afterall, God made Eve from Adams rib, you know, a cheaper cut of meat.
well they might as well let gay and lesbians live on to marry and to do whatever since our world is so over-populated...if you know what i mean. unless they adopt all the children that other women and men are just giving away....
UNEMPLOYMENT WENT DOWN IN ALABAMA ? I WONDER WHY ?? ILLEGALS LEAVING ?? THINK IF WE DEPORT THE 25 MILLION ILLEGALS THE UNEMPLOYMENT WILL GO DOWN TO 1 % ....IF WE END ALL LEGAL IMMIGRATION THE UNEMPLOYMENT WILL GO DOWN TO ZERO %
Hey i need some one to do my yard work!
That's like saying that if we deported all black people, poverty rates would go down. Or that if all Asians were deported, our education scores would plummet. However, your suggestion makes less sense than that. They may be illegal, but they work, and they take up jobs we (white people) don't want. Racist idiot
DrDoITT, your cluelessness amazes me! And being gay isn't being disturbed, it's a part of the natural order of things. As a straight grandmother I could care less if two gays or lesbians want to marry, it's their choice, not mine or yours. It doesn't bother me or you, if it bothers you so much then I suggest you get a life. And for people who say the woman came here illegally, DUH! She was told she can't have a visa extension. And didn't her American "wife" know that just because they got married in VT her partner would have to leave? The amount of ignorance and hate in America now is mind-boggling. People who have no lives are too busy trying to tell others what to do. One political party trying to fix things while the opposition tries to stop them, and focuses on a woman's rights and what gays want to do. And being a drunk is treatable condition, being gay isn't. If it was, my neighbor's son, who is professional, nice guy, not flamboyant and his partner would have gone for treatment. It's not a choice because only an idiot would choose that kind of lifestyle. As for in here, there are a lot of idiots making comments who obviously have no choice. It's genetic!
Also, re: it being 'natural', I saw part of Sister wives where Kodee and his latest wife go on african safari, and seeing the lion pride say 'polygamy is natural, see the kind of the beasts does this'. Do we do polygamist marriage next? Guess so.
I think Grace's question still applies. "How does it affect you?". If a group of people are okay with their lifestyle, you can disagree with it all you want. If I'm married, and my wife doesn't mind that I have a girlfriend, or I don't mind that she has a boyfriend, who are you to lay judgement?
How it affects me? Because like a brick house is built brink by brick, and if a weak brick or a series of weak bricks are there anywhere the whole house is shaky, society is built on mom+ dad + kids. Other kinds of association dont equal family. Kids need a mom and a dad as role models. This has been proven in studies, and my gut tells me this. Heck, it helped me to look at my mom and my dad. helped my sister too. I live in this society and want it to be strong... so no bad bricks in my house!
First of all humans have long been far from natural since the day we made fire, let alone performing surgeries and going to outer space, etc. So the natural or not argument is just not irrelevant. Second, I don't know if any forms of family are good bricks or not. They are part of the house already no matter what. All I know is that those who try to "take out" certain bricks are in fact bringing down the house.
n e x t the p e do f y l e s, i n c e s t e r s, p o l y g a m i s t s, b e s t i a l is t s will ask forsocietal and legal recognition. That will be the end of society.
How are gay men and women even considered in the same category as a pedophile?
You are exactly right. Where does it end. If two men can marry, why cant a man have two wives. or three. Trust me, its coming and the law will have a hard time telling them no. Marriage should be a covenant between God and a man/woman and the govt should not even be involved to begin with.
CR, ask Mark Foley. He texted racy to a teenager, then admitted he did it coz he's gay
Did you really just spell pedophiles as pedofyles? Wow, not only are you so narrow viewed that you're cross eyed, but you're also an uneducated person spouting their personal rhetoric. I do rafter with polygamy, but that's no reason for me to scream hatred... And that's not even the purpose of the article!
I really hate auto-type. The do rafter thing w supposed to be "don't agree with"
"Only an idiot would choose that kind of lifestyle."
That is probably one of the most insulting things I have ever heard. If you are trying to be supportive, don't.
DrDolTT – I'm not living in your house.
The injustice here is NOT that we are deporting this freak.
The injustice is that we are NOT deporting Obama's relatives who are in this country illegally and receiving special treatment because of him.
But, Barrack Hussein Obama was raised to believe that the laws of the U.S. don't apply to him, or his kind.
Of course what you've written is totally wrong.
But hey, why let the truth stand in the way of another tea baggers lie.
This is so sad. This 2011 and our government still acts like being gay is a crime. These people have done nothing wrong. I am so disappointed in our government. We are the United States Of America, look around us look at all the people we have here and we are going to turn one person away because they fell in love. We support give Social Security to people who never worked here, turn our back on all the Mexican's here and we do this. I can only say I am worried on what this country has become. God Help us.
Being gay is not a crime. However, it is not giving you special rights.
the law is th elaw is the law
illegal = deport!
gay, mexican, english, canadian, chinese, indian, I dont care......
tell them your from mexico.
you're (It is the contraction for "you are". If you are not sure, just use "you are". )
psssst... trina, it's rude to korrect someones speling online.
Theresa, Correct is spelled with a "c" not a "k". Politely. (Politely? Have you been reading the hatred along this comment line?)
"thinker" had asked : Please list the special rights you are refering to. what is your definition of special rights.
1. to shower with whom you want in the army when I cant. Untill the army has separate accomodation with bathroom attached for each private, corporal and general, DADT should have been left alone.
2. so called hate crime legislation : its a hate crime to say things about, say gays, when its not to say things about other disturbed people like kleptomaniacs and drunks.
Did you seriously just lump together gays and lesbians with kleptomaniacs and drunks?
What about special right#1? I say DADT should be replaced with ask tell and fire.
Yes, all of the above have a desire planted in their mind which they CHOOSE to follow. They can, with help if needed, fight them off and be normal.
To the 'Dolt'... Being a Republican or a Democrat... that's a choice. Being close-minded is a choice. Being gay/transgendered is no more a choice than being black or white. If you think its a choice, tell me... When did you CHOOSE to be straight? Were you always straight? What makes you different? (hint.. you're not)
What's all the fuss about? There are hundreds of cases of "straight" couples getting married – to keep the one with a visa in the country – only to be denied & deported. It's against the law to marry for that reason alone... it's called fraud.
I don't see why this is news.
This isn't about love. This isn't about marriage. This is about someone who's been in the US, *illegally*, for (apparently) many years. I feel for them, but we have laws and procedures for becoming a legal immigrant. You go through those and I'll support you all day long. My grandparents followed the rules, as have millions of others. Did DOMA have any part here? Maybe yes, maybe no. However, marriage is just one of several ways to be here *legally*.
(As an aside, shame on the GOP for not repealing DOMA. You cretins claim to want a smaller government, but your actions speak volumes to your real intent.)
sooo.. 30 years to become a LEGAL citizen, and no? I can see why a visa was denied then.
She should find a fake husband.
If we punish people for being in love then what ideals to we have left to fight for? It's the love that should account for something. Anyone who has ever been in love knows what I say. The rest of you must either never have been in love, or else you've forgotten.
This appears to be an immigration issue rather a right to marry issue. the article notes they met in the 80's. during the past several decades did they take the necessary steps for Takako Ueda to gain legal citizen ship. Just becasue you marry a foreign national does not grant them automatic citizenship.
It's stupid that we have to have the momma government tell us what the definition of marriage is. Being married should have NOTHING to do with government; especially the ridiculous pracitce of having to get permission (marriage license). If two people say they are married, who am I to say that they aren't??
As far as being in the country illegally... sorry, she needs to be deported for flaunting U.S. law. Her wife can go with her.
At this point, I'm ready for the church/synagogue/whatever to define marriage, the state to completely butt out. The state can offer "agreement kits" or somesuch to any 2 (or N) people to get survivorship, tax status, hospiral visitation rights, whatever....
I would like to keep marriage = man/woman. Degenerates can have their own word for their association(s).
It's a sad state of affairs. She had over 30 years to get citizenship but avoided it. She married another person thinking she could avoid deportation but it failed. Now she faces deportation. Illegal is still illegal. I wish both of them the best, but the law is to be obeyed.
I guess you missed the moral of the story that if this were a straight couple marriage would automatically lead to residency,
Marrying a foreign national does not grant automatic citizenship. For example there are many service members who meet their wife\husband while serving in foreign countries. The foreign born spouse still needs to go through the immigration\naturalization process.
Oh well.... too bad.
What's the difference between Christians and Muslims? They put out so much hate if it's not within their beliefs. Isn't so convenient for religious people to sin and just confess afterwards. Most ignorant people who write these hateful comments are religious people.
Not true! i hate all specially people like you!
You might ask yourself : What is the difference between an illegal alien and a legal resident ! ! ! !
Just what the US needs, more 'families' that won't produce any children.
don't worry, we got enough Latinos to pop out babies left and right.
Reading the article left me thinking: "So what, people get deported every day for various reasons. Why is this worth an article on CNN? Is it a 'slow news day'?
this is g@y:
http://www.marionstar.com/article/20111218/OPINION03/112180303/Church-isn-t-place-go-order-win-prizes
Lacey YOU are sick , you actually should make justice with your hands , because then you would be put away from SOCIETY . People like you are worthless to the world
You can change the laws, but it is still a sin...and condemnable in the eyes of God. Seems like an easy choice to me.
Sorry, Tim Buck II, but what, exactly, seems like an easy choice to you? The article isn't about religion, it's about the fact that a legally married woman could not sponsor her wife for a greencard, and she could have, had it been her husband instead. What choice are you referring to?
you shouldnt be able to marry a woman if you are one, or a guy if you are one. f@ggotry should be illegal, it is immoral.
God doesn't exist.
I see no credible evidence that God writes books or has an official fan club,but by definition we could not possibly exist unless God did.
Stephen Hawking would beg to differ.
Thanks! Now just 7,000,000,000 people to say it.
...and isn't it great that you can live in a country where you can express your views freely?
Tim: Perhaps you would be happier living in a Theocracy. Iran might suit you well.
I am a Christian. I am the way God made me...just like all human beings. I am loved and I am in joyous relationship with Jesus Christ, my Savior. AND I am gay. I am so grateful. All Christians, all "religious" people are not hate-filled and misinterpret scripture. Check out the United Church of Christ. With love, mlowen.
Where is the story of normal MARRIED couples been deported for living here illegally. Dont tell me there isn't any?
im thinking that there are no longer anymore normal married couples.
Sad, but true.
Since others here have mentioned the affects gay marriage could have on children, I thought I'd chime in. I am a married, straight mother of 3 lovely kids. When they grow up, they should have the legal right to marry the person of their choosing regardless of gender. I want that for everyone. Gay rights are about human rights–they affect all of us. It is absolutely perverse to put obstacles in the way of people legally committing and sharing their lives with one another. We need more love and commitment in the world, not less.
I have been in this country LEGALLY for over 10 years, NOT breaking any immigration laws and not VIOLATING the terms of my student and work visas. In other words, I did not OVERSTAY like you did. And I'm STILL languishing in a LONG waiting list for a green card, despite having a doctorate degree and family ties. Why should you be bumped to the front of the queue?
Because they married a US citizen.
And we all know how "marriage" based green card$ work.
Sure there is fraud, but the purpose of a spouse of a US citizen not having to wait for a visa number is to keep families together. If a couple has been married less than 2 years, then the alien spouse gets a 2 year green card and both the husband and wife must apply to have the conditional status lifted from the alien spouse's green card in the 90 day period before the second anniversary of the alien spouse's admission to the United States. This generally requires evidence that the couple have actually been living together as husband and wife during the two years. I had to go through this with my wife. It's a good thing. It's probably kind of hard to PRETEND to be married to someone for 2 years. Immigration laws should not separate families.
not even really married.
A case of real brokeback mountain
I hope they can avoid deportation. How absurd that their family has to deal with this in 2011. They should have equal rights with everyone else.
umm. equal rights..you need to wake up!
Beth I totally agree. This is horrible! She's been in the states at least 11 years according to what was said in the video and so what is the problem now? Yeah I know her Visa is running out. So it obviously was renewed previously because they have to be. I feel so badly for these two. I am straight and don't agree with this!!!! This is just wrong!
DEPORT! DEPORT DEPORT!
There is no "rights" issue here.There is a standard of conduct to be adhered to by all.If you're not interested in forming the type of relationship that there is a public interest in rewarding,you don't qualify for the privileges attached to it.
she has the right to be deported for violating federal law.
And the US has the Right to deport immigration violators.
The law is the law is the law
illegal = should be deported
dont care whether its a mexican, a gay, a canadian or a englishman
over and out
Yes, the law is the law... In fact US law used to permit humans enslaving other humans as well. Fortunately, we have evolved as a society, and realize that this law had to be abolished on human rights grounds, even though slavery was advocated in the Bible and was the backbone of the economy in the South.
Similarly now, we as a society from time to time re-assess the relevance and value of our laws, and abolish the ones that don't serve our country's interests. There simply is no logical, compelling argument that justifies breaking up families, solely on the basis of their gender. This particular law, DOMA, needs to go.
So much for America being a country based on the idea of freedom. Freedom to be exactly what the conservative right wants you to be and absolutely nothing else. I almost can't believe you even let women out of the kitchen.
The country is pretty evenly split, 50/50. 50% are supportive of equal rights for all citizens and 50% want to force their conservative, literal interpretation of the bible onto the rest of us.
Darn Puritans still at it! I was raised in the states and can't believe this! I am Canadian and living back home now and it's the same here. People just can't accept anything that is different. I am amongst my own people if you will and they won't accept me either because I wasn't "raised" here. And of course since I was raised in the southeast I have a southern accent so as soon as I open my mouth they think that I am from "away". People just need to frikken grow up!
I do ...to take the trash out after the dinner! HAhahahha
And they had the "Freedom" to properly apply for LEGAL citizenship
I'm all for gay marriage, but only if both chicks are hot!!!
–i guess that would be because you really are attracted to ugly women and you dont want to see any of those taken out of circulation!!!
People who already have their Rights are awfully uppity.
Are you nuts??
Or are you an idiot??
What is wrong with people who can not sympathize or have compassion, especially around this time of year. Special treatment aside, laws should be equal for everyone. I'm even more surprised that gay Americans still do not have those same rights as any marriage with a straight couple. Canadians have them, hell even England has them. Talk about seriously falling behind. But hey what can I say? There are some states still trying to pass that inter-racial marriages is illegal. Honestly, wake up and smell the coffee, it's time to catch up with everyone else instead of going back towards the dark ages.
Exactly!!! Time to Wake Up!! Tim Horton's Sounds Good About Now!!
Funny how quiet they all got!!!
Well said! Thank you neighbor of the north. As much as I love my country, sometimes the stupidity of some of its people is an embarrassment beyond belief.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with us, Canadian. We simply do not support gay behavior in any capacity.
Sleeping with the same gender is not only massively dysfunctional, it borderlines on perverse, deviate behavior.
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I am a young 26 year old who does not do religion of any kind. I am totally against this CHOICE these people make by co-mingling with the same gender. I, along with millions of other young/old folks will never, ever accept gays in this society. And yes, something must be done to block this equality B.S., for the sake of our children and our childrens children.
Im sure that your ignorance would have equally been loved when women were fighting for their rights perhaps during the civil rights.. WE ARE ALL a part of this country and we ALL have the right to our happiness. What good is America, the home of the free... where ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL... if it doesnt stand true to its word. It makes me ashamed, that this supposed land of opportunity, freedom, and equality cant even back it's own words.
Rachel December 19, 2011 at 8:33 pm: Who, exactly, is "we"? Do you speak for an entire country? I think not. The hatred in your soul is astounding. With only a few changes in terms, your comments ring with clarion bigotry of the 1920s.
Your an idiot..for the sake of our children?..Many of "your children" are gay...Where do you think gay children come from?...Straight families..If gay peole make you uncomfortable, thats your business, but to dictate to others how they should be is not your place.Being a miserable, hateful person is worst than being gay in my book.
Seriously Rachel, what's it to you who other people have romantic relationships with?
Whether it's a choice or not is immaterial, the fact is that it harms nobody and therefore there is nothing wrong with it.
Hiding behind children to defend your hangups is pretty cowardly, to be honest.
Rachel....when did you CHOOSE to be straight?
Ok, thanks I will let them know that they can move to your country and start fresh there that will work.
And they'll be very welcome here.
Just stop all of this silliness about borders. We are a human family. The sooner we accept that and learn to live together the better.
The human family...funny stuff.
Well.... we, as a human family, have the unfortunate luck of sharing life in this world with a dysfunctional society. Gayness is a dysfunction and we, on the opposite side of the fence, are subject to it. And then these lawmakers, the silly fools that some of them are (and are most likely gay themselves) try to push the envelope on gay equality.
It will never happen but, even still, we have to live among them. The only thing we can do, for now, is to protect our kids from it.
One can only hope!
All they want is...."insert personal situation"....That's the same argument used by every other person who wants to be in America illegally. Let's face it, they are pulling out the "gay" card in hopes that their situation will be viewed as so unique and so dire so as to require special consideration. I don't think being gay comes close to meeting that standard.
Maybe all these people want it to be treated Equal under the law. It's their Right its everyones right under the law. My family is in the same situation and I can tell you It's Worng to treat people like this. We suffer daily the same discrimination at the hand of Politicians and Religious Leaders who are playing Politics with our Lives. No One should suffer what we do! It's Inhumane! Its Wrong! Imagine Bullied by the same people who are saying Bullying is wrong. I think Before you speak on this topic you should educate yourself!
Why is the percentage of bigots & idiots so high in America??
Is there something in the water?
Pulling out the "gay card", terri? They've been together 30 years!!!!!!
Then in those 30 years, this person has not had the time or inclination to apply for citizenship? Get real.
How about followng the laws of this country, rather than asking for special treatment?
It should be obvious that gays aren't into that...
Dave D,
It sounds like they are following the laws of this country. This woman is a legal immigrant who could be sponsored by her spouse for a greencard if she were married to a man. She was legally married by the state of Vermont. The real crime here seems to be that the federal government refuses to recognize their marriage and appears to be tearing their family apart.
Exactly!!!
No,the fault lies with the state of Vermont in treating a relationship of a type whose existence harms the public interest as if equal to one whose enjoying preferential treatment is vital to the public interest.
Nice to see someone on here, has it right! You rock!!!
OH, my comment was directed at Sara... she has it right.
If they married men like is naturally meant to be, this would have never happened. I am glad immigration is working for a change.
It crazy how people treat dogs better than gay people in this country.
To make that a true statement, you would have to broaden it to include all types of people.
Dogs are not perverted, dysfunctional animals. THERE'S the difference.
"boy" dogs dont try to bang other "boy" dogs, girl dogs dont lick each other back "there". and if my boy or girl dog did something QU33R, i could shoot it and it would be gone, wish i could say the same for the f@gs that are out there.
People wonder why the U.S.A. is in decline!
There are too many Americans like Britt!
I have a neighbor who married a girl from chile but was unable to bring her back to this country. He had to live there for over a year before she was able to get whatever permit is needed to get into this country. Everyone should follow our immigration laws and there should be no exceptions. Do it legally and that goes for all those here illegally.
This is very wrong. You can see in the clip these 2 ladies love each other and they are hurting no one. Jeez, cant we just let people live? The laws are wrong and need to changed. This breaks my heart & and am a st8 male, I'd like to more love like this than all the hate I see in the US because people are different.
Your man card needs to be pulled or deported!
Ah, give me a break. So you want these two slurpy sisters to have special rights to come to this country and forget the immigration laws. They should have thought of the obstacles before applying and then gotten the problem rectified before becoming a "couple", even tho they are not a legit couple. Slurp, slurp.....
It's refreshing to hear from a kind and intelligent young guy. Go you for having the guts to speak your mind and heart.
Just deceiving people into believing they are hurting no one is a way in which they are hurting people.
Louis, you really need to explain how it's harming society?
Opinions are like farts, everyone has one, some are just louder than others!
Tough doodey!
i have no sympathy for them. They refused to let me and my wife bring our adopted children to this country even though they recognized that the adoption was legal.
immigation laws need to be followed the same for every one.
Immigration law pretty much sharts on everyone equally.
@Michael, so where do you live now?
Have you ever considered that the laws themselves might be the problem?
WOW. This is pretty sad. It really should not even be in leagal context. Honestly I dont say "Hi my name is John Smith a straight white male that is overweight and jewish." Im just saying in a country as diverse as ours that has the opportunity for all people to live in their own beliefs speech etc... maybe just maybe we should stop all the judging people. Sorry about my spelling lol.
What is wrong with you people of the United States, do not deport these gay couple; we democrats needs their votes. What one must do is work harder and longer hours to give these couple financial assistance to survive. Give them the financial and emotional support that your family needs. Work harder so that the currents government could support these people.
Who is talking about financial and emotional support other than you?
All they want are the SAME RIGHTS YOU HAVE. No more, but also no less.
Let's take your spouse and deport him/her because I don't like what I think you and another consenting adult do in the privacy of your bedroom.
Fisheye – it's not a problem of "you people' in America, it's our laws. They need to be changed to allow this couple to apply for residency and citizenship, just like anyone else.
Oh, and they don't need our financial support, they support themselves okay.
If you know the rules and ignore them you get burned.
where does it say we taxpayers are supporting these people?! They want the same benefits as other married couples to be able to sponsor their significant other's greencard. You're hatred is completely misplaced here...please get a life.
@Fish seems pretty clear they don't need financial assistance. So your point is ... ?
Don't worry, Fish. I understood the sarcasm of your post.
For all of us that work ..we should put some extra over time in so our taxes can help these poor helpless people along with all others here illegally. Its our gift this season. Spend more time at work away from our families so that others can do nothing and get all of the free benifits we provide......Your welcome!
And dont forget,
– that these others may gain more rights than us, special rights.
They do all ready! They can even use our money for college here. But since i make too much i cant. Seems fair to me.
They can even use our money for college here. But since i make too much i cant. Seems fair to me. ahahhahaha
Please list the special rights you are refering to. what is your definition of special rights.
How is this countries stand on legalized discrimination and the mistreatment to Gay People is beyond me.. Dogs have more protections than gay people do. Shame on you!!!
Wish that was true... would rub their nose in the croch of the other woman and say bad gay! then smack the crapp out of them.
what legal right does a dog have that a gay human doesn't?
I agree with you, let's deport everyone who got a green card or citizenship through mariage to a US citizen. Disgusting, they should all go. Send their kids with them too.
Oh wait, you were only talking about gay people? My bad, I was thinking about equal rights for all.
Umm people do think this way. Way to spread ignorance even if it was sarcasm.
My crystal ball also tells me of such a time when the special rights given to gays will be that they are tax free and can molest as many kids as they want, free of consequence.
Put your crystal ball away and remove your head from your butt. Perhaps then you will be able to think clearly?..
But wait, Prezident Obozo will legalize bestial marriage during his next four year term. Zo the many sheeples that want to legally marry their dogs or marry the family horse stand a chance if Obozo is given another four year term. Just think of the perverted opportunities if we give him another chance.
My crystal ball tells me of a time when bestial marriage will be legalized and the fastest way to get US citizenship will be to marry a american sheep (or cow)
My crystal ball tells me of a time when scientists will be using republican ret.rds and religious dimw1ts in experiments rather than chimpanzees.
Because scientists would get attached to republicans and religious conservatives and there are some things that chimps just won't do.
Correction:
Because scientists would NOT get attached to republicans and religious conservatives and there are some things that chimps just won't do.
This proves that you dont have regard for human life. How can anyone advocate experiments on humans? I rest my case, your honor.
Only proves that DrdoITT has no sense of humor or doesn't appreciate parody. If he thought he was a wit he'd be half right.
Oh, that was a good zinger!
You are ALL illegal immigrants, just ask any NATIVE American.
You would think that after being in this country for 31 years on a work visa she would make some attemp to become permanent.
Have you tried this route? It is more difficult being legal permananet than being an illegal permanent alien.
Wait is that the legal way? That's too hard. You should feel sorry for them and we should just let them goalong with all others here illegally! I cant think of a better way or better people for my taxes to go to. I will work some more over time in ths season!
Yep. And if you had read the article, you would have seen that she did and that her application was denied.
What is your next great idea?
Lucky she does not live in Iran where they would behead her.
Isnt the world cup coming up? That would make a great ball to kick?
Send her there and the rest of the gays too.
Deporting one half of this family is so wrong. But what do you expect? The Republicans actually fear two people in a happy, supportive relationship. Why else would they have forced the "Defence of Marriage Act" on the US? I know, Clinton signed the thing, but how could he not? Bob Dole and the Republican Party would have claimed he was out to destroy Christianity, Motherhood, The Market and Shareholder Value in that election. To win the election, he had to sign it. So much for the "land of the free."
The democrats supported the Defense of Marriage Act too! In fact far more democrats support it today than GOP support Obamacare, I bet you do not consider Obamacare as being forced on the US. Rule of law must prevail, deport immediately.
How could he not? I'll tell you how – it's called principles. It's called doing what is right even though you might not get what you want (in this case, getting elected). It's called not pandering to special interests who claim to be about "family" and "compassion" but are actually full of vile hate for anything that doesn't agree with their narrow-minded world view.
I'm looking at you too Lowe's.
Uh – the DoMA was Bill Clinton's initiative, put into effect by him via Executive Order. It was then taken up by Congress and passed into Federal law, with the wide support of Democrats. It has survived during the recent two years of Democrat control of both the White House and both houses of Congress. Like Clinton's original version, it could be undone tomorrow by Executive Order if Obama chose to do so.
This is hardly an artifact of the GOP.
Hey left coast 1, you are so sick, and I have an idea that you wanted to marry the family horse or dog during a republican administration and you were denied, so henceforth comes the attack on the republican party for the ills of the democratic party. Take time now to go to confession with your pervert priest and receive ablution.
what family?
I may need a civics lesson here, but who is in control of the immigration department? Isnt it the present administration, that is headed by a Democrat? Mr Obama? Doesn't he appoint the commissioner of the INS? Please tell me if I'm wrong? A lot of republican bashing here, but it's been my experience that liberals are all pro gay to your face and on chats but can be just as discriminatory behind your back.
Is there a law prohibiting the beating of a moron cause I sure would like to meet DrDoITT on the street
Sounds like Animal Farm, as in all animals (married people) are equal, but some are more equal than others. Only in the USA.
Just say you are Mexican and THEN you can stay.
That would be the current present day standards. These f**ing stinking illegal mexicans get everything handed to them on a silver platter, or believed as truthful. I swear senor I'm legal, gods honest truth so are all my 12 cousins who can't speak lick of English.
I see hatred is alive and well in the good ole U.S of A...
Sadly, it is alive and well all over the world. We just have more freedom to express it here.
Sooooo.....we will deport someone trying to be a legal citizen yet we allow millions of illegals here year after year. Great job America! Glad to see your priorities are in line!
The Immigration Court here was considering whether she could stay...in this set of facts, there is not eligible relationship for the Immigration Judge to set aside an Order of Removal.
Don't conflate the actual facts of this case with cultural or political opinions/policies.
Here, the court followed the law which said that this person cannot legally enter the US despite "trying to enter legally" because she did not meet the elgibility requirements. If this woman was actually making efforts to immigrate legally, there would be no problem with her continued residence.
But the unintended message is that if you try to go through the legal channels you are more likely to be deported than if you live under the radar illegally.
I guess your point of view depends on if you wish to live with an open heart and compassion, or condemnation, and the need to control the lives of others. In otherword the liberal or conservitive points of view. It is your choise.
I'm a law student and I want to practice Immigration law. What I often think is lacking in many of these discussions is that law is often not determined by compassion, but by what a majority of legislators think is politically feasible for them to accomplish, while still retaining their seats in Congress.
Here, while marriage is generally an eligible relationship for pursuing legal status, the Immigration laws explicitly restrict that relationship to that which occurs between a man and a woman. If you want to change the laws, lobby your elected officials. Until that point, the law will continue to be enforced, despite what some may believe to be immoral or unjust or whatever.
If she's here illegally, regardless of anything else, out she should go. Then, from wherever it is she belongs, she can apply to come back legally. Anything else illegal is prosecuted, so why not immigration crimes???
Thank you Vermont for a rather nice can of worms.
Vermont? It was Clinton and evangelical conservatives who broke 200 years of state's rights tradition by passing DOMA, giving the federal government power over marriage it never had before. For that matter it represented an unprecedented intrusion into religious life since it made doctrine decisions for churches rather then leaving the definition of marriage up to individual denominations.
And you don't see anything wrong with someone being legally married in one state but not in another? Really??
Rick, I do see something very wrong. Which is why majority should rule and Vermont should conform to the norms established by a majoity of the other states.
New day, same crap. I agree, this is not news. If your here Illegaly and you get deported. To bad, that's what you get for trying to play the system. You got EXACTLY what you deserved. They don't care when I have to pay extra taxes for them. I don't care when they get deported. Seems fair to me..
You're, not "your", should be used in place of you are. "If your here illegaly and you get deported." is a sentence fragment and not a sentence. "Illegaly" is actually spelled illegally. "To bad" should be written "too bad." Here is an example for you: Too bad we can't instead deport insensitive bigots who can't seem to spell or use proper grammar.
This case seems pretty simple to me. There are two people in love who would like to live their lives together. We always lecture the rest of the world on human rights, and yet this seems like on of the most basic human rights one earth.
You too along with those two needs to ... be deported! People like you makes this country what it is today which is a bunch of crying babies who cry if some one hurts their feelings.
did you really just mis-spell the word spell while giving your lecture there professor? classic.
Actually jg, you seem to be the one thats crying; therefore, people like you are whats wrong with this country.
Love these grammar lessons.
Where is the word "spell" mis-spelled???
Good. Get these twisted perverts out of our country.
Yeah! Hopefully the bigoted religious types will follow....
Oh ya, and move priest pedophiles to another parish so nobody will know him.....but don't let two legally married people in love live with each other in this country. Great priorities, dimwit.
Wake up America! Illegal is illegal but everyone turns a blind eye if the illegal offense is dealing with imigrants here illegaly working or going to schools or like this soooo sad story of these two. BOOOOOO who!
Another article with an agenda from CNN. This is not "news" it is political propaganda in the guise of "news".
I agree! You said it best.
Gass? as in "fart?"
CNN is political propaganda? I don't think so. If you want real propaganda, go to Fox News.
As someone who's married a foreign national who had to do the same thing, I can say without a doubt that there are a lot of details that CNN has left out on this article.
We should deport Palin to Russia. She could still wave hi to her family hanging out on their porch in Alaska!
If she's been living in the US since 1980, paying taxes, no criminal record etc, then we should consider to grant her legal status.
That's a can of worms. Illegal is illegal most will say. I agree with you.
Oh yeah, just what we need; more criminals in this country. Think much?
So everybody is a criminal, any traffic tickets?
@gera: a traffic ticket is not a crime, it's a citation.
A crime would be getting the traffic ticket in a stolen car. That, or being in another country without a Visa, green card, or naturalization papers.
Agree. The Federal government should be forced to acknowledge the laws of the states in this matter. In my view, this is clearly within the domain of the 10th amendment. The 'Defense of Marriage act' would seem to overstep Federal authority.
Totally agree. I really doubt that DoMA would survive a Supreme Court challenge. Sadly, it could also be rescinded as easily as it was enacted – by Executive Order – but our current President seems unwilling to take that step.
No, he can't.
1. Clinton's original Executive Order was of dubious legality, so it probably would not be considered in force anyway.
2. More importantly, regardless of Clinton's EO, DOMA is now a law, and the president CANNOT unilaterally overturn a law (see: PL 104-199). Obama can, and did, elect not to appeal a Circuit Court ruling, but it was the courts (as in plural, more than one negative ruling) that ruled the law illegal. And regardless of what rabid DOM types tell you, the president is obligated to defend the law, and he did, but he is under no obligation to appeal.
If they both were hot there would be no problem,,,Go get some fake social security numbers like obama ,then you can hide in plain sight ...JUST LIKE HIM...
Hmmmm...exactly....I think we've got a winner....no more questions. Thank you!
She should change her last name to Obama, he has enough illegal family members here that get to stay, even after getting a deportation order.
tacjam4 – betcha can't name one. you are off base.
Zeituni Onyango
How about TWO? And not only are they both still here in defiance of deportation orders at least one; his Aunt, is getting every social service benefit available to a legitimate citizen. Aunt Zeituni Polly Onyango and Onyango ”Uncle Omar” Obama. In the case of Uncle Omar, he has even been busted for Social Security fraud. BOTH still walking the streets and collecting taxpayer subsidies. . . a little Google can do wonders for your awareness. Assuming of course that some day – eventually – you actually want to know the truth. fat chance of that – I know.
LOL...I'm not totally convinced Obama's here legally – let alone his family.
Patrick – That's 'cause you're a racist idiot.
Your right, we should ship him back to Hawaii where he came from!
Oh wait.. that's a state...
PRESIDENT Obama is indeed a US Citizen, as he was born in Hawaii, a recognized state. Have a preschooler explain it to you in one-syllable words that even YOU can understand.
Pretty sure that would evaporate if he was white.
LOL...I'm not totally convinced Martian's aren't here illegally – let alone Martian families.
tacjam4 – Your compassion is truly underwhelming.
How can you tell they're women? I really didn't feel like watching the video, and I really can't tell from the picture provided...
same way I can tell you're an idiot.....just look
What's the big problem? She over stays her visa, unless she breaks any law, the Obama administration has ensured she won't get deported anyway. We can't even deport illegals that get DWI's, leach off our social welfare systems, send their children to schools which tax payers pay for, use the ER like it's a family practice. Overstay your Visa and you'll be good!
Only if you are gay.
Hopefully somebody will deport YOU soon.
I will buy you a steak dinner or vegan dinner anywhere you want if you can provide one example of Palin waterboarding anyone either on a battlefield or for being gay or any reason you would like to insert. Or you can come to grips with the fact you are as bad as the person you hate most when you ignorance spills out as such
Jeez Chris, lighten up! I'm sure she wasn't being literal here, probably just saying!
Once again, DOMA destroys more marriages than it protects, and our broken immigration system prevents people from doing it the right way.
The "right way" would have been to leave and apply to come back legally. Duh.
For some reason I can't seem to put a finger on the problem.
Bill of Rights? All Men are created free and equal? Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness?
Any of that ringing any bells?
Todd, you need to insert "If you have enough money" we have a "legal" system, not a justice system. How many Fathers get custody in a divorce? Exactly.
That doesn't give you limitless rights..
Those are the abstract rights that you are afforded after you obey the laws in place.
Of course, you can use your other right of facing your accusers in court and filing your grievances. That's the beauty of our republic... but it in no way means you'll just get your way because "it's right" after breaking fundamental laws to get where you are.
*gasp* you can't deport gay people!
You can't deport spouses of Americans.
yes you can, it has happened with hetero couples too, marrying a US citizen is no longer a "free pass" to citizenship. My cousin is married to a really nice Canadian lady he met in college when she was here on a student visa, and it took months of jumping through hoops and her finding a job that would sponsor her for a work visa for her to be able to stay here after graduation, even being married to an american and not having the DOMA issue the couple in this article has. The process is getting to be a joke really, I mean so many stipulations for doing it right, and hardly any recourse for those who don't.
The issue is immigration, not marriage. Why does CNN always take the side of the gay, the muslim and the transgender?
Maybe to protect them from the hateful prejudices people have in this country? If you don't like it, don't read it. Simple as that.
Sorry, it doesn't work like that. You put something down onto a forum, it'll be read and rebutted. You'll have to accept that.
So right!!! Why does not CNN tell a story of un- const itutional VA WA frauds, used by Russian immigrants to get to the US. There are so many American men and women hurt by VA WA and still Conn- gress supports VA WA to get illegalls to US. Why not tell about DRE AM ACT, where taxpayers pay for illegall's tuition. My US child can not get the same treatment illegalls get. Still everyone cries how "poor" immigrants need special treatment and care.
Obviously, you do not understand America's immigration system. It IS a marriage issue. If she is applying for a green card as the spouse of a U.S. citizen, and the federal government does not recognize the marriage, how is that NOT a marriage issue?
The only reason she couldn't get permanent residency status is because her spouse couldn't legally sponsor her as a spouse.
However, I suspect that this is WAY too much for an inbred, redneck retard to understand.
As for you, US guard, the immigrant is still here legally. If you hadn't noticed, her 30-day notice was given this month. She still has a couple weeks to leave the country. At no point was any mention of her entering the country illegally made. She came here legally, and is attempting to gain permanent residency status while still here legally. It is a common practice among many LEGAL immigrants who are married to a U.S. citizen. You simply enter the country on a tourist visa (or visa waiver) and apply to adjust your status to a permanent resident.
The only thing that sets her application apart is that the federal government does not recognize her status as a married individual.
Please protect the gene pool and kill yourself. We had a term used to deal with people like you in the Army. It's called friendly fire.
You answered yourself in your own post: It was a state marriage, one skewed from the Federal statutes.
Whether you believe gay marriage good or bad, it's simple black & white. If you go to a state with a specific law that differs from the federal mandates, you can't expect the states laws to usurp the federal. It was known before the marriage, and it's known now.
Since when and who sleeps with who is any business of this government or any government for that matter.
They need to get their poop together and do the job they were elected for.............
Agreed, this is an immigration issue plain and simple! People are addicted to drama and are always looking for a reason to push their own agenda rather than just taking the story for what it is!
This is a marriage issue. My partner and I were legally married in Vermont and he was here in the United States – LEGALLY – on a work Visa. Unfortunately, the company he worked for downsized and he lost his job and is awaiting a deportation hearing. If "HE" was a "SHE" I would be able to be the sponsor and the there would be no deportation. Our justice system does not work if there is no equality within it.
That's an incorrect assumption. Marrying a US citizen does not carry an automatic guarantee of a GC.
Correct Toto, just being married to a citizen is not enough to guarantee a green card.
It is not an incorrect statement. II didn't say it was a guarantee, I simply stated that I would be allowed to sponsor him. Under current law a U.S citizen can be a sponsor for their spouse for a green-card, citizenship, or a Visa if they are a straight couple, but not if they are a gay couple.
The state married you, not the USA. Expecting it to just be okay is what made it not work for you. I'm sorry you did not understand, but better luck next time.
Still Incorrect, VT, for a greencard, you can't sponsor him anyways, he needs to sponsor himself.
You said "there would be no deportation," that sounds a lot like a guarantee to me. Unfortunately for you, and even for many Hetro couples that go through the process (like I have), that's simply not true.
In this country, we fight for those that cannot fight for themselves. That is, in a nutshell, the beauty of living in America. Perhaps you should look into expatriation. There are a vast number of nations around the world where your small-minded mentality would serve you better... Sure hope you aren't white! Bon voyage.
This IS an immigration issue. If an immigrant is married to an American, that American can sponsor their spouse in this country. I've done it for my husband, who was an immigrant, and now an American citizen. There's a lot more to the story than we're being told
Having sponsored my wife also, it seems that this article is conveniently missing out on a lot of relevant details.
Too bad we can't just deport all the LBTGs or whatever the hell they call themselves.
Too bad we can't forcefully sterilize you.
Why? What EXACTLY has an LGBT person done to YOU, personally?
Don't forget the illegal immigrations!!!
so the teabaggers support an adulterious NEWT for President but these two people can't find justice!
Since when do tea baggers/conservatives in general make any sense-
Since when do the Teabaggers have anything to do with this... I hate to say it, even being Hetro isn't an automatic guarantee of a Greencard when marrying a US citizen.
You lost me. Bill Clinton is responsible for the current state of affairs; he's the one who enacted the DoMA. And the Obama is just as culpable – he campaigned on a plank of eliminating DoMA and has done nothing about it, despite having two full years with both houses of Congress under his party's control. This doesn't come close to being a GOP issue – the Democrats own it lock, stock and barrel.
Well put. Now that each and every TPer is supporting Newt, lets just eliminate all immigration laws. Very logical.
I am deeply saddened by the ordeal that these two women are going through because of unjust, behind-the-times laws in the U.S. and also by the lack of compassion that people seem to have in the U.S. What ever happened to live and let live?
I hate to say it, even being Hetro isn't an automatic guarantee of a Greencard when marrying a US citizen.
Unjust???? Unjust is my tax dollars paying for the government services this person utilizes, and all the government costs involved with this b.s. fight for her to stay here.
Yes, Ron, UNJUST. Grow UP and get a life.
How about the tax dollars these two ladies pay for infrastructure you use?
Do you find that unfair too?
I must have missed the part where these two were on welfare, using medicare, and taking money out of your pocket personally. Idiot.
@rahul. Opinions do not always reflect fact or reality.
Wow! I've seen ignorance at It's best on this blog! Liberalism is killing this country!
The GOP is killing this country.
Fabulous! You both agree the country is dying! It's so good to find common ground.
Well said! Most hetero marriages end in divorce, so what are they really protecting? Christian conservatives think marriage is sacred UNTIL THEY want a divorce. Don't give me your "morals" BS, since most of those preaching about them are secretly very immoral themselves.
Maybe you cant get married and stay married I can and have...
Good for you! The majority of YOUR people have not! It's people like your friends and neighbors who made the divorce rate skyrocket....not gay people.
At VRage13 evidently u have never heard of Sodom and Gommorah. yes we should love, but also obey Jehovah when we dont agree with his rules and regulations
Soddom and Gommorah are from your religion, I presume. What gives you the right to expect others to live according to your religious beliefs?
@Rio: Yeah, that town was a fictional town based in the christian verses that was smited (smoten?) by god with fire and turned everyone to tsalt for doing things that the Christians do not believe in. Apparently, it's an example of what devastation a loving god would do if you didn't obey. That's why it was brought up. Have to love that one.
apparently you haven't heard of the global epidemic of children being raped by priests all under the protection of your church.
Thats because the said priests were secretly gay. That was the mistake. There should have been a way to weed them out before they joined service.
And the slightly more lucid among us should obey the "rules" of your imaginary gods and goddesses why? LOL.
There is no official religion for a reason. You people need to quit trying to push your religion on everyone. News flash: We don't want your religion and don't want our laws to be based on those discriminatory parts of your religion.
Sodom and Gommorah is an ancient people's tale trying to explain why 2 cities were destroyed by a metoer that broke apart in the upper atmosphere. The metoer was recorded on a stone tablet why a wholey seperate civilization as it traversed the night sky. Using this event to justify descrimination is completely illogical. Perhaps you also think the world is flat.
I enjoy disobeying the bible.
Yes I have, but this was before Jesus was born and God was apparently calmed by his loving son, since there hasn't been anything similar since. I mean heck, LA and San Fran are still here, so I'm going to say a whole lot of people over the centuries have been putting alot of words into God's mouth. Heck the only thing the Bible is, is a collection of Books that a bunch of people agreed to have consolodated into one. Plenty were left out because they weren't really what God wanted, cause obviously we are all great judges of what God wants.
Live and let live. Let God judge. Personal choices are just that, if they aren't hurting you let God deal with them.
oh please wake up people this world is going to shyte in a basket we have no morals any more and no values if you want to get married find a place that will marry you. If your going to come to the United States follow our laws simple. You give someone an inch and they want a mile Gay marraige is legal now they want to be able to stay as well. Why don't we re-write every law to please the gays. Dam liberals messing this country up. how simple is it to follow a law you love someone great you want to get married great you want to stay here NO! we have rules and your visa expired. They got married congradulations but now they want this and that it's never enough be glad you got married dam!
I am a U.S. citizen, I pay taxes (probably more than you since I am educated and have a very high paying job). Yes, I WOULD like my partner of 18 years to be able to legally reside in the country I was born in. Please do NOT give everyone the "morals" speech. It makes you sound "holy" and I am sure you have your own moral skeleton closet (read: you might not be as clean and pure as you think or pretend). If I am from here and i love someone and we have been together a very long time (longer than most straight "moral" marriages in the U.S. read the statistics preacher...), who are YOU or ANYONE else to judge me or other gays?!?!? "We have rules". Who are YOU to make these rules? Oh I forgot, you are one of the moral ones... Go ask your god if he loves you with all of your judgements...
chris you are a EDUCATED moron.
Chris - Aren't you being equally judgmental by pointing out he has a religion? Aww... would ya look at that... you're just the same as him... Passing judgment for no reason. Both of you are stupid.
Chris, I couldn't have said it better. I don't want equal rights, I DEMAND THEM.
Shantlilly, the difference is that he does not have that religion telling him not to judge. He is merely pointing out an example of the hypocrisy of most Christians.
By the way- damn is spelled with an "n". The "dam" you wrote refers to a structure that holds a body of water...
So when slavery was legal it was right? There is a reason behind the CHANGING OF LAWS; they are not always correct. Remember that. All you have is ignorance on your side. That my friend, is not much at all.
EXACTLY!! Thank you very much!
Sadly, this one will be difficult though- so many have "morals" behind them. Wouldn't it be great to see what's behind so many of these "moral" individuals who "follow the law"?
They did find a place that would marry them...Vermont. They should get the same rights as a straight couple in this country. They have probably had a better relationship and marriage than most straight couples in this country. Quit attacking marriage and just let them be happy.
We re-wrote the laws to end slavery. We re-wrote the laws to allow black people civil rights. We re-wrote the laws to allow women to vote. We re-wrote the laws to allow black people to vote. We re-wrote the law to outlaw alchole and then we re-wrote it AGAIN to make it legal again. The laws have been re-written for centures because the original law was WRONG!
In your example, the laws were changed because slaves, blacks and women were all legal citizens. This woman is in the country illegally so why should the laws be changed to accomodate her? She should leave and apply for legal entry – that is the law.
Laura, please tell me where in the article you read that she is in the US illegaly.
I read that she entered the US legaly, got married, and was denied a green card and was asked to leave within 30 days. Nothing about her being here illegaly.
I agree. Follow our laws or leave. Simple. Better yet, leave anyway.
@ rahul:
Your position is a major reason that I simply tell the complete truth and say, "no. I do not believe in God–or any gods–and I see absolutely no reason to believe that God exists."
I realize that my speaking the truth offends some of my friends, but I prize Truth.
Our country needs to dump DOMA as soon as possible.
I am philosophically a Republican, but I will not support any Republican positions as long as that party maintains support of this antiquated hate bill.
God is a God of love, yes, but God didn't tell me to shove my dong up another man's crack. That's not love but perversion and God is not a God of perversions.
Maybe YOUR god told YOU one thing and others something else?
Sancimonius preacher... Look it up since I am sure you will not know what that menas...
Hey Chris. While he is looking up what you want him to look up, why don't you look up the proper spelling of "Sancimonius and menas".
Never mind Chris. After reading my own post I see that I can"t spell either. Merry Christmas.
Agreed! Well said....
I'm sure your God didn't tell you to put your dong in a woman's mouth or between her boobs either but I'm sure you do that. If you go down on her, I'm sure he didn't tell you to do that either.
Wow@ wendy u act like that is breaking news! For years marrying a US citizen to become legal has been goin on! And for months the wrong names have been posting to the wrong comments! CNN ur real idiots for not upgrading this system and makin it right!
According to the video, she was here on a visa which seems is about to expire. That being said, why didn't she apply for citizenship in the '80s when she was seeing her soon-to-be spouse at the time? Then again, who knows what her entire past-time story was as far as her ability to get citizenship goes.
Well said, yes we don't know her whole story as to why she hasn't applied for citizenship. But just because one marries US citizen doesn't make the foriegn national a citizen. I know first hand having married a foriegn national in her country and having brought her back to the states, it wasn't easy or fast. There is alot that goes into transitiioning to a US citizen. But yes the laws need to change, marriage is marriage and I was able to apply for my wife because we were married as any couple, like in this story, should be able to do.
the fact still remains dat if dey r left 2 stay dis would b an open door for oda illegalz 2 get into d country.....so if d govt does'nt recognize d mariage as legal so be it....she should leave....
I certainly hope one of your issues with illegals is not their lack of ability with the English language because if it is, "pot meet kettle."
I'm sorry... Are you speaking English?
people like you who do not know how to write proprr english should be deported to an elementary school in a far away galaxy, and ignorance should be declared illegal!!
The US has given amnesty to other people illegal here in the United States. It all comes down to politics. I know I said I would not post again, but here is to my brother in-law and his other half in Rio.
And people with H1B (I thnk) visas who come here to work are allowwed to stay when they meet and marry citizens so when a gay citizen has to fight so hard for his/her 'rights,' it's just not fair.
Hetro couples don't get automatic approval either...you know that...right?
This is why we need more money invested in educationg than anything else. One day, this moron will be leading the country.
@Rod in Dallas TX
The more people we educate, the more 'know-it-alls' we will have. They are just as bad as the ignorant :p
Normally I overlook spelling and grammar as long as I get the general idea of the post but your english sucks donkey dongs.
Growing up in a Republican house, a military father who served 28 years, myself being married to a beautiful woman and being straight and a Christian and a God fearing man, God is a God of Love and I don't believe anyone can say any difference. The one issue is, "How can someone say God hates or will punish one for loving another?" After, taking another look at my beliefs and unfounded racism towards gays, does not the bible say love one another? Why so much worry about gays wanting the same rights that I have with my wife? Why not allow them to sponsor one individual that they can prove that they are married and once they sponsor one, give everyone in the US to be able to sponsor one individual. Now, why can't they sponsor one like I could if I married someone from another country? I served 20+ years in the military to defend peoples freedoms, doesn't everyone have the right to happiness? What is this consider any different racism than any other? They are not harming anyone, matter of fact they are taking themselves out of the gene pool. People to love one another is what I was brought up in the church, love the person but hate the sin and only one person I was brought up to believe had the right to judge! GOD, the God of love! I have never thought that having hate and having a close mind is what God wants. Really, where does it hurt you personally? If you actually think about it and come up with one reason it will affect yourself then let your voice be heard, but remember our rights end when it infringes upon another!
Being military myself with 6 overseas assignments, we are told repeatedly that we have to obey the laws of our host country. I'm sure you have been told the same thing. I don't view this being about gay marriage, there is no doubt thier marriage is legal in some states. I see this as this couple don't like the fact that htey are being held to task to follow the immigration laws.
Last words on this subject, lets make laws that will make sense and apply to everyone and not just a specific groups!
Citizenship is not guarenteed by marrying a US citizen. Many hetero couples run into this same problem. This story is a daily occurence to many hetero couples, it only makes the news when it is a ghey couple. Give them equal rights and change immigration laws. But until then, there is more parody in the system than you think, and don't think that only same-s3x couples actually run into this.
Wow! Troy- thank you from the bottom of my heart! Well said, loving and very kind! For those of us in this situation (my partner and I- 18 years) it is so wonderful to hear someone just be... kind. Thank you!
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You are my new best friend!
I agree. I wish more Christians were like him. You don't have to agree with everything about someone to respect their rights as a human being.
It all sounds so good..........but where does it end? If morality is left up to the whims of current social trends and "as long as nobody gets hurt" is our guideline, then our future is indeed full of many changes. The unacceptable behavior of 50the years ago is todays norm. The unacceptable behavior of today will be the norm in 50 years at the rate we are moving. If you base your moral compass on the socially acceptable thing, then prepare for it to ever expand.
Morals are not absolute,they ARE the whims of soiety.
i think she should of got on a plane first! then you have it think about people still dont like gay marriage and that gay people that want to get married that only a few places alow that so you really think that there going to alow them to get there greencard they should be greatfull that they got married. i am for gay marriage but its going to take some time for people to get used to the idea for them to get greencards and other privileges...
I don't see this as being about gay marriage. I see it being about this couple not wanting to follow the rules. I my post, I am talking about a straight couple.
They have no alternatives, I don't believe in breaking the law but how would you like being separated from the one you gave your heart to. I would hate being away from my wife and daughter but luckily I married someone that is a citizen. But people cannot always control there hearts! So the question is, "What would you do to be with your love one?"
Sorry about the type there should be their.
If she is here ILLEGALLY, she needs to follow the rules and make herself legal to reside here. I have a friend living with his spouse aboard and he has to leave the country every 90 days to a country that will stamp his passport then return to the country they live in, getting his passport restamped and a new 90 days. He doesn't like but he is obeying the laws of the country they live in. That is what is demanded of Americans living all over the world, that they FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THE COUNTRY THEY LIVE IN!! Why should we expect anything less of the people living in the USA?
Why are you assuming she is here illegally and not following the laws of the country? She very well could be, but it doesn't sound like it. Why would she make her case so public if she was here illegal?
LOL seens GAY marriage will open the flood gate of immigration frauds.
Honey, it's been open a long time ago!
Their marriage is legally binding. Therefore I see NO real reason they could have to deny Ueda-san's reapplication.
You know...even Hetro marriages don't get automatic approval.
Immigration laws don't apply to gays and Muslims. They can enter and leave the country at will. Ahh...I wish I was a gay Black Muslim – a triple minority – I could sue anyone, avoid taxes, and apply for minority jobs.
Are you really THAT ignorant? It must be nce not beng a minority and straight. You automatically get to live here even with your lack of intellegence..
LOL, that was great!!!!
I thought he was being sarcastic.
spot on brother!
They were legally married in Vermont (a state) the state is not in charge of immigration. The federal government is in charge of immigration, and does not recognize the marriage. So as far as the dept in charge of immigration is concerned they are not married. That's one of the things DOMA is for.
And, that's one of the reasons DOMA should be repealed or invalidated.
If the marriage is legal....and it is....she should be able to get a green card....period.
Well, your insightful and well-educated take on immigration law notwithstanding, the article says that federal laws don't recognize gay marriages, so the citizen can't sponsor the immigrant for citizenship. Guess what? As far as the feds are concerned, it's not a valid marriage, regardless of how you feel.
And even if the US citizen could sponsor her 'wife,' there is not guarantee of approval for a Green Card.
If they were a hetero couple almost certainly they would not be in this situation. Toto and others keep saying there is no guarantee of citizenship in the case of hetero couples but it is almost certain. It isn't 100%, no, but pretty darn close so you are throwing out a false argument. This is outright discrimination against gay couples and very wrong.
She's not an illegal, she's just had the reapplication for her greencard denied. When they deny they deport. She could have gotten a speeding ticket and they would reject it. Man some people jump on the uptight bandwagon quick!
The denial is based on her being "out of status". Once you overstay a visa you have a choice. Go home with under a year elapsed and wait 3 years to come back OR stay longer and wait for 10 years.
Given her "herstory" – she will simply ignore the deportation order and go back into hiding.
THE WORD IS THAT ILLEGALS ARE PAYING U.S. CITIZENS TO MARRY THEM TEMPORALLY ..AFTER A FEW MONTH'S THEY GET A DIVORCE AND THEY BECOME LEGAL U.S. CITIZENS..
And for those of us who do NOT get paid?!?!?! I have been with my Norwegan husband for 18 years, LEGALLY married in Norway, I pay taxes in the U.S. yet the government tells me it is not legit? We have to live in Central America to be together. Trust me- some of us do NOT get paid...
I say thank you for following the laws of our country.
Post it how you can make that happen, because there are people out there that could benefit from this knowledge to help them have their love ones around more often.
only in america
Yes ONLY in America. Every other western civilized nation in the world recognize gay marriage because it is the right thing to do.
Once you recognize one perversions, all of them will stand in line to be next: polygamy, incest, bestiality, pedof-i-l-i-a, whatever...
draw the line and protect society.
They are legally married. It would be against the law to deport a legally married person. Married is married and it is legally so and recognised. Period. The end.
It isn't illegal to deport a legally married person. The government can deny anyone they choose, the citizen spouse can always try to immigrate to the other country, you know. I know this, as it almost happened to me, someone who immigrated from Canada.
Incorrect assumption, marrying a US citizen is no guarantee of a Green Card.
Hello??? Comments r not posting with correct names:( no bueno
Has this illegal been here since 1980? that is the only date given in the article as to when they even met? absolutely fascinating. I guess I'm dum.... I thought illegal meant illegal. And when a GOVERNMENT told you to leave thier country, you haul az z and get out. US of Wussies.
Well we don't really know what her life situation is as far as immigration goes; for all we know her immigration status may have expired.
Since when is every immigrant facing deportation an illegal immigrant? Don't jump to conclusions like that. That is a major problem with people in this country right now. Learn a little about something before you jump to your own conclusion.
By definition, being deported means you are being forcibly removed from the country for being here illegally. She either came illegally, or has now violated one of the conditions of her visa.
You forget, gays have SPECIAL rights.
like they get to shower with in the army.. no coed showers for me.
like so called hate crime laws protecting them. no hate crime laws for, say, drunks. I can say "drunks suck" but cant about them.
She's been here since 1980? So what's da problem...
She has been her as an ILLEGAL ALIEN for over 30 years. There is nothing in this article about her "paying taxes" or contributing to the US in any way. There is no statue on limitations on being an ILLEGAL ALIEN. She has had over 30 years tto get it right.
@john hillman
Having a work visa isn't illegal immigration. Also, according to the US laws on Nonimmigrant Visas, If you spend more than a few hundred days in the US, you are required to report/pay income taxes. She has been here 31 years and is supposed to be paying taxes. Whether or not she does, we don't know. But her status, until her un-employment, was perfectly legal. She is probably a part of the 53% of Americans that pay income tax. Are you in that group?
@Tonlok: I think your missing the technicality in your paragraph. She was here on a work visa, and became unemployed. That downside of that is what you typed, that you can't be unemployed for a long period of time and in the country on a work visa.
I think you believe others just wish she would disappear – most would love to see her be in this country legally if she would have done it by the rules. Now, it's just being against-the-grain and thinking you can just bully your way through guilt. It takes time to get citizenship, and work visas have it's pitfalls. This is it.
CNN s run by peabraind cretins.
And is apparently read by ignorant bigots who couldn't pass a sixth-grade spelling quiz.
Also, for spelling Nazi's that use 'And' to start a sentence. L2grammar