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December 21st, 2011
09:08 AM ET

5 ways the suburbs are changing

Editor's note: This is part of a series of stories about the changing American suburbs.

By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

Manicured lawns, minivans and modest-homes-turned-McMansions: They’re the sorts of symbols that might come to mind when we think modern suburbia.

But peer inside the windows at the people living there and the American suburbs are increasingly complex, the 2010 U.S. Census and other reports show. We’ve come a long way since “Leave It to Beaver.”

The suburbs – or rather suburbanites – represent an evolving America. And what exists today would leave June Cleaver’s perfectly coifed head, and even her strand of pearls, spinning.

Relying on various census reports culled and crunched by seasoned demographers like those at the Brookings Institution, we present a mere taste of what can be learned about the changing face – or faces – of suburbia.

Flight: It’s not just for whites

Across racial and ethnic lines, population growth in suburbs outpaces cities, which means it’s time to toss the stereotypes.

While 78% of metropolitan-area whites live in suburbs, the 2010 Census also shows that for the first time more than half of each minority group in metro areas is staking a claim to suburban living.

Key among the findings is what internationally renowned demographer William Frey, currently a senior fellow in the Metropolitan Policy Program at Brookings, calls “breakthrough ‘black flight.’” In 1990, 37% of metro area blacks lived in suburbs. By 2000, that number had gone up to 44%. The latest census tips the scale to 51%.

The same trend is true for other major metro area minority groups, with 59% of Hispanics and 62% of Asians choosing suburbia over city living as of 2010.

Nationwide, minorities make up 35% of all people living in suburbs. And there are now 16 large metro areas – twice as many as there were in 2000 – where minorities make up the majority of the suburban population. Among them: Washington,D.C.; Miami; Houston, McAllen and El Paso, all in Texas; Albuquerque; Honolulu; Las Vegas; and, in California, Riverside, Los Angeles, Bakersfield, Fresno, Modesto, Stockton, San Jose and San Francisco.

Ingredients in a growing melting pot

Chinatowns, Little Italies, the Lower East Side of Manhattan. City enclaves for immigrants, once expected, now might be a trend of the past.

From 2000 to 2010, the U.S.population grew by about 10% to nearly 309 million. Of the more than 27 million added to the census in the last decade, about a third were immigrants – both legal and illegal, according to the Center for Immigration Studies.

Nearly 14 million immigrants arrived between 2000 and 2010, while about 5 million left or died – a net increase of 8.8 million. All told, the center reports, 40 million immigrants are now living in the United States, around three-quarters of them legally.

About half of the 14 million who arrived in the last decade were Latino or Hispanic, says demographer Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies.

Latinos now number 50.5 million in the United States and outnumber blacks as the largest minority group, the Pew Hispanic Center reports.

Thirty years ago, 43% of U.S. immigrants lived in suburbs, wrote demographer Audrey Singer, an expert on international migration who is also a senior fellow in Brookings’ Metropolitan Policy Program. By 2010, the majority – or 51% - made their homes in suburbia.

Immigrants follow settlement trends, which means in places where suburbs rule many immigrants bypass city-living altogether. Highly suburbanized Atlanta is a perfect example, says Singer, where 95% of immigrants – and 92% of all residents – live in the suburbs.

Living the less dreamy dream

Once viewed as a blissful bubble, the suburbs are no longer immune to the challenges facing all of society. Enter, for example, poverty. A third of the country’s poor, and most of the poor living in large metro areas, call “Pleasantville” home, Brookings reported.

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Between 2000 and 2008, the poverty-stricken population grew in suburbs by 25%, nearly five times faster than it did in cities.

The number of suburban poor also grew three times faster rate than the overall suburban population.

From 2000 to 2008, a Brookings report shows, the total number of people living in suburbia grew 13% to 132 million. By 2009, about 14 million of those were poor – up from 10 million in 2000, a jump of about 40%.

Today, one out of 10 suburban residents is impoverished. Of the poor suburbanites, 83% are American-born; the rest are immigrants.

Who’ll shovel the walk?

The post-World War II birth of suburbia ushered in an onslaught of children. These baby boomers, born between 1946 and 1965, now number about 80 million and account for more than a quarter of the population, according to Brookings’ Frey.

By 2010, boomers were between 45 and 64 years old. Including those older than the boomers, Americans 45-and-up grew 18 times faster than younger folks over the last decade. By way of jarring comparison, the 55-64 age group grew by more than 50%, while the 35-44 lot fell by 9%. The greatest growth in the under 45 group was in the 15-24 age range, but even that population grew by little more than 11%.

The vast majority – or 72% of 45-and-up Americans – are living and aging in suburbs. Collectively they make up 40% of all suburban residents.

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Meanwhile, suburbs in 38 of the 100 largest metro areas showed a decline in their 45-and-under populations between 2000 and 2010, Frey reported.

With the exception of New Orleans, which can attribute its population shift to Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, all the other top-10 suburban areas to experience 45-and-under declines were in the Snow Belt. They include Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit and Buffalo.

If the Cleavers were house hunting today…

Modern suburbia, and America in general, is more racially diverse than ever. But there remains one true exception, and that is in a land often referred to as the “exurbs,” says Frey.

These exurban counties, which sit on the periphery of large metro areas, are low-density and overwhelmingly white. And while they account for just 2.5 million people, little more than 1% of large metro populations, these counties are growing fast – at a rate three to five times faster than the U.S.average, Frey reports.

The 20 fastest-growing exurban counties dot the country and include areas outside Atlanta, St. Louis, New York and Ogden, Utah.

Sixteen of these 20 counties are more than 75% white, Frey reports. And whites can be credited for 73% of all exurban population growth, which stands in sharp contrast to what whites are contributing to overall population growth. Between 2000 and 2010, whites accounted for just 8% of the country’s population increase.

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  1. Chrissie

    1) Nobody is home 2) Kids don't play outside 3) Increased rental properties 4) Foreclosures

    December 22, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Norman

    I live in a 965 sq. ft. apartment in Clovis, CA in California's central valley. This valley is very racially and ethnically diversified, and I live next to Mexicans and blacks with no problems. Our apartment complex has strict rules that are enforced to the letter, and it also screens prospective tenants like they were applying for a top secret clearance with the government. We had one "low life" group that was ejected by the sheriff when they vandalized property. But, due to the population density of this area, I would live elsewhere if my business requirements would allow.

    December 22, 2011 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
  3. Derrick, Atlanta, GA

    Just to give my perspective, I do real estate in and around the metro Atlanta area and most of the worst tenants I've had happen to be Black. I avoid judging Black people in general based on this experience, it has more to do with one's upbringing than anything. But in times like these, when the bottom line becomes the absolute standard, I have to somehow be very careful who I rent my house out to without being racially discriminative. It's hard for mt to ignore the obvious correlation between the number of Black tenants I have and the number of problems I have to deal with. This is an unfortunate and uncomfortable line to walk, especially considering that I'm Black myself.

    December 22, 2011 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
  4. Mike

    Awesome, less whites and more trouble causing Hispanics and Blacks living in suburbs? I just can't wait for what the future holds....

    December 21, 2011 at 11:58 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Alex

    This forum is making me sick...Its pretty clear there is still a ton of racism all over the map. Im white, and I live in a 75% Asian neighborhood...and im the minority who is a political leech in their minds. Its funny how there is this hierarchy where whites think they are culturally superior to blacks (not black individuals but pop african american culture) and yet the Asians think they are superior to us...and the Mexicans get the scraps. We are the same! race is a made up notion! where do you draw the line between some one whos half black half white...or a quarter or an eighth? Stop buying into these divisive stereotypes of race...ALL OF YOU. Value people as individuals and stop spouting nonsense about stereotypes of your race or any other...be the change you want to see in the world, and stop perpetuating this garbage by bantering on about outdated social dogma.

    December 21, 2011 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vic

      You're 100% right, race doesn't even exist scientifically. There is no race gene. It's about ethnic groups, cultures. You cannot divide people by skin tone. It's an outdated social engineering weapon. Try to tell that to the ignorant masses.

      December 21, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • RealityChick

      Why do blacks blame everyone else for their failures? Out of wedlock children living in ghettos sponging off of the government listening to hateful rhetoric in speeches made by "black leaders" shaking their fist demanding that rich white people owe them a living so they can stay in the government paid for slums, get fat and listen to Whoopie Goldberg on TV. If blacks what to improve their image, stop the cycle. Maybe then other races won't be so quick to stereotype.

      December 22, 2011 at 5:45 am | Report abuse |
  6. DJ

    I'm a 65 year old man. When I was ten my father moved us from NYC to L.A. to escape certain minorities. When I was 30, I did the same with my young family and moved to Portland, Or. My son did the same with his family when he was about 30 by moving to Colorado. In questioning the real motive for this activity, I believe we were all looking for a safe place place to live. Some place where bars on your windows aren't necessary.

    December 21, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Perry

      It's a pattern that is so classic and so typical of WASP americans going back 50+ years. When you have love for your group who look and think like you, you leave room to discriminate.

      December 22, 2011 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
    • RichP

      Is that true perry ? I like the not having to have bars on my windows or security doors on my house and knowing I don't need to lock my car doors at night and that my sound system will still be there in the morning. I was raised in Newark NJ and have been stationed all over the world, when you get too many people together you have problems. As for now, I'm pretty rural but will be moving even further out, when I first moved here we had 1 traffic light and dozen locally owned stores, now we have over a dozen lights and 9 strip malls, the nearest McDonalds, Burger King and KFC was 20 miles away now we have all of them, our town center is a strip mall, time to move.... As for crime, was very little till all the NY'ers got suckered here by the developers and they brought it with them with their gang banger children.

      December 22, 2011 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  7. J G

    I miss old suburbia. Nothing wrong with peoples of like minds living together in a more comfortable environment.

    December 21, 2011 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  8. brokenteeth

    Well they forgot to mention white flight from the suburbs gone bad because the white families feel that they do't belong in a mostly ethnic neighborhood .

    December 21, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Matt Woolsey

    And as minorities pour into suburbs, whites flock back to cities. And life goes on.

    December 21, 2011 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Integrity

    By the way, what are we going to do when we run out of room, and there is no more rural America?

    I suspect that developers would fill in the Grand Canyon and put condos there, if they could; and, our politicians (both sides) would enable them to do it, if the lobbyists give them the money they crave.

    December 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Heather

      I'm going to take a wild guess and say you've never driven across the country. I've met a lot of people who sadly enough have never gone more than a few miles past a suburban area in their entire lives. Driving with one like yourself through an unpopulated area once, he asked, "are there many places like this in the US?" I laughed. Having driven across the states more times than I can guess, I can tell you that there are a whole lot of resources we will run out of before it's land to put a pink flamingo on.

      December 21, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Elizabeth

    The article doesn't mention the expenses of new developments. New population demands schools, roads, trash collection and other services that towns must find the money for. Then these new towns complain about their taxes, which can suddenly double or triple when new schools are built and other services must be paid for. Parts of the country that repair and replace infrastructure can attract people into the cities, keeping a cultural center; keeping property values up; costing less for transportation; keeping and developing new business. That takes taxes too, but much less than the outlay for a whole new town. People who live close together in supportive neighborhoods live a very satisfying life, but it takes work to make a good community no matter where a person lives. My complaint is how little people seem to want to participate in their community anymore, whether town, city, churches, clubs, volunteers, etc. Think of others and build a better America.

    December 21, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Integrity

    Years ago a study was conducted to determine the root cause of juvenile delinquency.

    Of course statisticians tell us that causation cannot be proven (which common sense says is absurd), statistical analysis can, in fact, tease out the factors to determine which one(s) correlate most highly with an effect, such as juvenile delinquency.

    As I recall the study found that the main (root) cause of juvenile delinquency was teenage pregnancy– not geography, not race, not color, etc..

    The professor who called my attention to this study held a doctorate and taught social policy, and he said that almost every youth in the juvenile justice system is the child of a pregnant teen.

    His point: Stop teenage pregnancy, and you will stop delinquency (and subsequent adult criminal behavior), after the pipeline dries up, after about fifteen years, or so.

    December 21, 2011 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Veronica

      These teen mothers are not getting pregnant by themselves. Predatory men who refuse to wear condoms are committing statutory rape every day but the girls and their families won't report them. Lower the testosterone!

      December 21, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Shut_Up

    White people don't want to be aroud black people. If they say different, then they are lying. And this is many blacks fault for not knowing how to act in public. The world is not a rap video.

    December 21, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • sad

      Its sad but true. The ball is in black cultures court. We will accept them as equals the minute they choose to act the part.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • chhooten

      I will have to disagree with you. People are more tolerant than ever these days of different races, ethnicities, and cultures. I live in a community that is an exburb and although it is predominantly white, I don't see people moving out to avoid the other races. In other words, your statement is largely assuming and general and does not hold any facts. Please think about what harmful and inflammatory language you use before you post it.

      December 21, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • sad

        your screen name should be ostrich because you have your head in the sad. The fact the burbs exist in the first place is solely due to white people fleeing the diversity/crime of the cities. You think we like driving an hour to work or living in cultural oatmeal? No. we do it out of fear that we will be victims of minority driven crime. There is nothing but facts that support this. Look at the police records or NYC. Blacks are something like 16% of population but commit over 60% of the murders. Its not about tolerance. Its about the safely of our families. See my above statement.

        December 21, 2011 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • josh

        hay sad, your a sissy!

        December 21, 2011 at 8:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Russ

      I work with a guy from Uganda and he doesn't want to be around American blacks either.

      December 21, 2011 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pumbaa

        As a black comedian said, I like black people but NO one wants to live near a nigg**. No one wants to live near a red neck either except another red neck.

        December 21, 2011 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • J G

      Bingo. Somebody gets it. Some of the black folks I'm friends with are awesome. Many of the white trash and black folks I see walking around downtown areas are loud, rude, wholly incourteous to others, and obnoxious. Wish we could take all those people in cram them in their own "special" area.

      December 21, 2011 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Integrity

    I wonder whether there's a link between teenage pregnancy and the decline of rural areas, which for decades in the US has rivaled that of some developing countries.

    I also wonder whether there's a link betwen teen pregnancy and our skyrocketing numbers of people in prison and on probation.

    I also wonder whether there's a link between this and our rapidly falling test scores and academic standing in the world.

    Teens become pregnant, drop out of school, have baby-after-baby, all of their child-bearing years; they rely on AFDC, SSI, food stamps, Medicaid and Medicare; and, their children follow in their footsteps.

    December 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      Agreed, Integrity. I fear the Dumbing Down of America is well past the point where it can be corrected. Sad, but true.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
  15. DeathIsNotRacist

    This is starting to look like a Reddit thread!

    December 21, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • DeathIsNotRacist

      You all have been trolled by this cap. Stop fighting and being so damn paranoid people. Geeezus Christmas!!!!

      December 21, 2011 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      Those Hispanics multiply like rabbits. The more rabbits – the more our social services are sucked dry.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
  16. DC

    American white lady no want hubby and kids. No, no, no! White lady want six-figure salary, beach-front condo, luxury car, and poodle. Oh, and white lady want 20-something year old live-in boyfriend, even if she 40-something. Yes, yes, yes!

    December 21, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Veronica

      And the problem is???

      December 21, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Wanda

    I grew up in Burlington Township out in the farm area. In 1956 we moved to Levittown Pa. I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Loved the neighbors, loved the school system. In fact so much so that when I married my highschool sweetheart (and we are still married 50 years later) we too stayed in Levittown and rasied our children there. They attended the same school district from K-12 and attended colleges within the area. We decided to move in the last 10 years to a place in Florida called "The Villages" it is an area that we call "Disney Land" for Adults. It too is a planned community but for 55's and olders....
    We love it is suburbia today.

    December 21, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wanda

      sorry about spelling mistakes need new glasses, stepped on them today

      December 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
  18. FACT

    What word starts with the letter "N" that you never want to call a black person... NEIGHBOR.

    December 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Wastrel

    The suburbs will continue to get worse as property values decline and the price of gas goes up. If you think you can move to the suburbs and afford to get everywhere by car, you are making a bad mistake.

    December 21, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pumbaa

      I don't know about that. People will buy electric cars and petrol cars that get 50+ MPG. The cars may all be like Smart cars but they will still get you where you need to go. I read that gasoline millage has doubled from when cars used to all get 10-12 MPG. However people now drive them twice as much and thus use as much or more gasoline.

      December 21, 2011 at 9:14 pm | Report abuse |
  20. vintage274

    Living in any diverse society has been a challenge from the beginnings of civilization. We still struggle with the differences that occur between ourselves and our neighbors. Back in the 50s when I was a little kid, if you traveled to a particular suburb, you knew EXACTLY what sort of people lived there - what race, what ethnicity background, what religion, what socio-economic level. People pretty much had cookie cutter lives. It made life easy; it also made life very bland. That's why we protested in the 60s. In the 70s and 80s when my kids were growing up, we had to choose suburbs closer to the city in order to provide them with diversity in school. During the 80s huge changes emerged. I was a high school teacher in a suburb that had been all white and very academically oriented. Over a nine year period the population changed drastically as my students moved to new McMansions on the outskirts of the district and the smaller, more modest homes that had served my students when they were in elementary school were purchased by working class families who did not, in general, have the same academic goals for their children. Test scores changed; class offerings changed; a restructuring of goals took place. It was a hard adjustment for people who had always lived in the community and for teachers with 20 years experience in that school. I remember my father's shock in 2000 when I moved to an upscale suburb, and he realized that about 30% of my neighbors were African-American professionals. His idea of suburbs - lily white and keep the Black folks out. In 2007 I moved to a luxury apartment complex in a suburb of San Francisco. I shortly discovered a wide ethnic mix among my neighbors, many of whom were highly educated immigrants. As well, while most of my neighbors and I paid between $2800 and $4000 a month for our secure buildings and amenities, by law 10% of our neighbors were Section 8. The problems in that complex weren't color or ethnicity or even the poverty gap. They stemmed from a wide gap in general expectations for how daily life is lived. In a complex that costs that much, can one expect quiet at the end of a working day, or is it appropriate for large groups of young men to hang out on the doorsteps? Is the weekend spent lounging poolside or fighting for space with a family who has invited twelve nieces and nephews over for a swim? Is it okay to work on your vehicle in a luxury underground garage space? Are children accompanied by their parents to the small park and elaborate play structures or are they turned loose by mom to go play? Is it okay for kids to run playing in the halls? Is it appropriate to play your music from speakers on your balconey so you neighbors are forced to share? It was both a balance and a huge learning experience for me. Life in the suburbs has changed so much over 60 years time, and we are negotiating what it means to live in the suburbs, what the ground rules are for neighbors getting along, what the unwritten rules of culture mean to us. No easy solutions; just lots and lots of change.

    December 21, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shut_Up

      Who would read all this. Comments, not a short story...

      December 21, 2011 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Just_Keep_Scrolling

      Nothing to read here. Just keep on scrolling.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • chhooten

      Thank you for that comment. It's nice to read well-thought out and complex opinions and observations. I agree that the experience of the suburbs have changed and that people's ethnicity doesn't decide the quality of the neighborhood necessarily.

      December 21, 2011 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Elizabeth

      Many condos and communities have rules, sometimes stupid but sometimes useful. Your condo could have them too, if you got together with neighbors. Some stupid rules: do not hang laundry (bad environmentally), no pink flamingo decorations. Some good rules: the community must be notified of parties beforehand and agree; keep noise levels down; limit on guests at a small pool; no running in halls; children must be supervised at all times on playground and pool equipment. Some of these rules could save a life.

      December 21, 2011 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norman Parsons

      vintage 74's story is what "social justice" is all about.

      December 22, 2011 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
  21. Global Opinion

    Some truths about Texas:
    -The winter is mild but the summer is miserably hot. This summer in particular was as bad as Arizona's if not worse.
    -There is no state income tax, but property taxes are among the highest in the nation even though our salaries are below the national average.
    -Part of the reason we have such high property taxes is due to the heavy burden of milions of illegal aliens that have flooded our state in the last 12 years especially.
    -San Antonio, Tx despite being more than 3 hours away from the border is now considered a border town, where illegals do as they please, schools, hospitals and jails can't keep up with them. Unfortunally Houston, Austin, and DFW are following this trend as well.
    -If you want your children to have a good education you will have to move to an expensive upscale community in order to avoid the gang riddled schools, also filled with illegals and their anchor children.
    In the last few years wealthy families from south of the border have moved here too, laundering their money, which also helped inflate house prices prior to the housing bubble burst. On top of this they have no respect for our laws and treat others just as poorly as they did in their beloved Mexico.

    December 21, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • geography_prof
      December 21, 2011 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • a bit smarter

      Not truths.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Shut_Up

      Mother F Texas. Blow it up (just make sure the Bush family is there)

      December 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • KasChap28

      I too live in Texas...in a real border town in the Rio Grande Valley. Not sure where you reside in the state, but I don't think it's that bad. Not to mention that Texas is 45.3% white and 37.65% hispanic (hispanic does not mean illegal) in fact, only 15.8% of Texans are foreign born, Arizona isn't too far behind(14.7), and far less than California (26.8%),(that's all foreign born, not just Mexicans, and again foreign born does not mean illegal). The truth of the matter is, there's are immigrants across the entire nation, yes, Texas has them too, but don't single us out as being all bad.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norman Parsons

      How many times can you move? Draw the line and be armed, for SELF DEFENSE ONLY!

      December 22, 2011 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  22. Jon

    It getting harder to find black free neighborhoods. I had to look for more than a year before finding a nice housing development with no blacks. I have no problems with black people but I prefer living among my own people.

    December 21, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jon_Above_Is_Obviously_Scared_Of_Blacks

      Wow... really Jon? Wow!

      December 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • FACT

        Blacks are scared of blacks...

        December 21, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • normal person

        You don't have to be scared of somebody to not want to be around them. I carry a gun and still don't want to be around certain people. I'd prefer to not have to use it so I try to keep myself out of certain situations.

        December 21, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • ballgame

      Jon, you have a right to elect to live by whomever you wish. However, I would like to know why you dont want to live in a housing development where there are no blacks?

      December 21, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jon

        I have two young daughters I have to worry about. Of course with blacks we have to worry about increase in crime rate

        December 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • wisdom4u2

      @Joh
      I'm not so sure you're talking about 'people'; I'm thinking you mean.. 'I perfer living among my own subhuman species'.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      Last year in New York City, 85% of murders were committed by black. They're 25% of the population. Stop pretending it's racist to acknowledge these things. If you want to live a peaceful life with fewer violent crimes, better manners, etc., you do not want to live in 99.99% of communities with large black populations. Offer whatever excuses you like, but it's all academic. You know the basic message to be true.

      December 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • TheKraken

        I'm not sure if race is the direct causes of the decline of suburbs. It's usually particulars of a certain culutre. For example, if you had all Africans (and I mean coming directly from africa or first generatoin) in a neighborhood, then there is a high chance that will be an excellent neighborhood because they will more than likely be engineers or something. The problem usually arises from within our country when those moving out of places like the ghetto move into neighborhoods when they go awry. And I mean any race that comes out of the gehtto. I don't think people have a problem with diversity if a certain amount of class was kept in the neighborhood.

        December 23, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Veronica

      Let me know if you locate that Nirvana.....I would love to bring my family there. My daughter-in law is Asian and an upstanding productive person who I wouldn't trade for anyone else...she can come to.

      December 21, 2011 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
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