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Increasing diversity redefining America's Jewry
American Jews as a group are becoming more ethnically diverse due to intermarriage, immigration, adoption and conversion.
December 28th, 2011
07:00 AM ET

Increasing diversity redefining America's Jewry

By Stephanie Siek, CNN

(CNN) - "But you don’t look Jewish," Jen Chau remembers being told often as a child.

But then again, what is a Jew supposed to look like? The usual implication in those words was that it was not supposed to look like Chau, who was raised Jewish by her European-American mother and Chinese father.

"I still think society's idea of a Jew is someone who looks like Jerry Seinfeld or Woody Allen," said Chau, 34. "They don’t look at someone like me and think, 'Oh, she could be Jewish.'"

But the face of Judaism in America is changing, as the community becomes more diverse through intermarriage, adoption, immigration and conversion.

The nonprofit group Be'chol Lashon – the name means "in every tongue" in Hebrew – is trying to foster an expanded definition of Jewishness, one that includes the diverse backgrounds of Jews around the globe.

Founder Diane Tobin and her late husband, Gary Tobin, started the organization in 2000 after adopting their son, Jonah, who is African American. Committed to raising their son Jewish, they realized that they didn’t know any African-American Jews. Thus began a quest to create connections among Jews of different races, nationalities and ethnicities. The group runs a summer camp, educates people about Jewish diversity, and connects Jewish communities around the world.

Gary Tobin, who headed the Institute for Jewish and Community Research, carried out a 1999 survey about the ethnic background of America’s 6 million Jews. It found that about 20%, or 1.2 million, were non-Ashkenazi Jews (that is, Jews not descended from Central and Eastern Europe), and about half of that number were Sephardi or Mizrahi Jews (whose roots are in the Iberian Peninsula, North Africa and the Middle East). The remainder were what the institute and Be’chol Lashon calls "ethnically and racially diverse Jews" – which includes people of African, Asian and Latin American descent.

But the survey’s most important finding, says Diane Tobin, was that many of the Jews fitting into the latter category felt isolated, and sometimes unwelcome in their houses of worship.

It's a feeling Chau has herself experienced. As she prepared for her bat mitzvah – a coming-of-age ceremony for Jewish girls that welcomes them into the faith as an adult – her teachers at the Hebrew school she attended encouraged her father to be present at the ceremony, even though he was not Jewish. But shortly beforehand, her rabbi called a special meeting of the synagogue's ritual council, and announced that her father would not be allowed to participate. The reason?

"The ritual committee didn't want to promote intermarriage, didn't want the synagogue to promote intermarriages and didn't want us all to be up there together," Chau said she was told. "That was a huge turning point for me, because I felt like I had been excluded from a community on the basis of race. I didn’t want anyone to have that experience again."

That experience was part of what motivated her to form Swirl, Inc., an anti-racist group that fosters dialogue among people of diverse backgrounds, in 2000.

Although the majority of Jews in the United States are descended from immigrants from Central and Eastern Europe, the global Jewish diaspora includes people from a much wider array of places. Historically Jewish communities exist in places as far apart as Portugal, Uganda, India, the West Indies, Argentina, Yemen and China.

Marc Dollinger, who holds the Richard and Rhoda Goldman Chair in Jewish Studies and Social Responsibility at San Francisco State University, said that despite these diverse roots, many American Jews still have a hard time seeing and accepting Jews from nonwhite backgrounds.

"I don’t think most people are ready for these changes, nationally," Dollinger said. "Tradition is very powerful, change is very scary, and nonwhite Jews are still different enough and enough of an anomaly that (in some places) they would be seen as at best a curiosity, and at worst, a threat to tradition."

Lacey Schwartz was raised in a secular white Jewish family, but learned at 18 that her father was black. She felt that her Jewish peers questioned whether she was really born a Jew. Schwartz, who is working on a documentary about her experiences, said her adult life has been marked by an effort to find a place in which she could be accepted as both Jewish and of African descent.

"I think it’s more about feeling like I could walk into a room and feel like I would not be questioned… how to be one person, be yourself and walk into any door and not leave any piece of yourself behind," said Schwartz, who also works as an outreach coordinator for Be'chol Lashon.

Be’chol Lashon’s summer camp activities, like this play about the book of Genesis, are designed to help Jewish kids of all backgrounds strengthen their connections with the faith.

Orthodox Rabbi Benjamin Blech said that mistreatment of converts and the Jewish children of intermarriages is forbidden by Jewish law.

"They are not representative of the mainstream of orthodox Judaism or anyone familiar with Jewish law," said Blech, who is an assistant professor of the Talmud at Yeshiva University.  "In Jewish law we are supposed to be more warm and more receptive to these people and to converts, knowing that they have a more difficult row to hoe."

But Blech also said that marriages to non-Jews are prohibited under Jewish law, and that marriage outside the faith is a threat to the continued viability of the Jewish people.

"We Jews have survived, and the reason we have survived is because of this law. The minute it's bridged it takes a generation or two and there are no more Jews. If (the couple) promises to raise their child as a Jew,and if they will, they might be an exception to that rule, but the rule is not to go down that road, because it's too dangerous."

Diane Tobin said that the history of persecution against Jews has made the community as a whole more wary of those perceived as outsiders – even if those persons meet most rabbinical definitions of Jewishness by having a Jewish parent and following Jewish traditions. But she notes that it doesn't have to stay that way.

"We should be more welcoming, and it's not helpful for us not to be part of the marketplace of religions,"said Tobin.

Erik Ludwig, Be'chol Lashon’s chief operating officer, said it's important for the community as a whole to recognize that there is no one way to be Jewish.

"Judaism is not monolithic," Ludwig said. "Different cultures bring different practices, which should be celebrated, to the experience."

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  1. armorlol

    This article basically proves that Jews are some of the most racist people on earth, probably second to Arabs only. "marriages to non-Jews are prohibited under Jewish law" you can't have it both ways orthodox Jews frowning upon these "new" Jews and reformists claiming you can just convert to Judaism... its not that easy, it is a VERY exclusive and restrictive religion. Both Christianity and Islam welcome converts and make NO distinction of race, its all in your heart and actions... Judaism apparently demands more than that...

    December 29, 2011 at 6:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Marc

      This article doesn't prove any of that. Jews are just like everyone else: No better, no worse. There is intolerance in every community, including the Jewish community.

      December 29, 2011 at 6:59 am | Report abuse |
    • atlhebrew

      Oh Please get over your self saying that Christians and Muslims accept all. I delt with Christians haiting me for being jewish as a child from swastikas painted on my locker to being spat on. I don't believe that all Christians and muslims are like this because as I grew up most of my friends where christian and muslims. When it comes to intermarriage in the jewish faith my wife is not jewish and I grew up in a conservative synagogue and still practice as a conservative jew. My rabbi accepts her and our child. In fact we are converting our son to Judaism in the next few weeks and me and my wife are attending intro to Judaism classes so she can learn mo are about the religion. They have been very accepting of her at the synagogue. This just goes to show you that like other religions everyone accepts people differently but I am sure you are to blind to see that since you want to make a statement claiming we all refuse to accept people based off color and or race and or previous religious belief.

      December 29, 2011 at 7:10 am | Report abuse |
      • Bonnie UK

        I am from an orthodox background, married to a non-jew, our son is not raised as a jew. Our temple will not accept any of us. Diffrent strokes for different communities. Nobody is mean to us, we just aren't considered jewish, cos we don't walk the walk. Fair comment in my opinion.

        December 29, 2011 at 7:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      Unlike Christianity, Judaism does not try to convert others. We are not an evangelical religion. Unlike some types of Christianity, Judaism recognizes that there are many paths to god and does not claim to have the one right answer. We do not encourage others to convert because we respect other religions. Can your religion say the same? There are multiple ways to look at something and your view is one but is limited by lack of knowledge of Judaism. Orthodox Judaism has religions laws with which I do not agree. These laws affected my family in many ways since part of my family that was Orthodox did not accept the part that was not. I will not ever agree with the Orthodox take on Judaism. But Orthodox Jews make up at most 1/4 of all Jews. So, you really can't judge the whole religion based on what the Orthodox think. Orthodoxy has been around only since the 1800s. They have no more right to decide what is Judaism for all Jews than any other group of Jews. You will find that Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism is not racist and that it allows people of mixed marriage and considers them fully Jewish and that these are the fasted growing groups of Judaism in America today.

      December 29, 2011 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  2. Grumpster

    I'm a member of the Atheist race.

    December 29, 2011 at 6:20 am | Report abuse |
    • A-Race

      As a co-member of the Atheist race, we have (like another Jew below said) the cranial capacity to make a distinction between those who are not Atheist due to our ability to see beyond the BS claim that being a Jew is a race, not religion. I don't care if you are or aren't a Jew or Catholic or whatever, but when you go so far as to claim "Race" status, that crosses the line into being a racist religion.

      December 29, 2011 at 6:28 am | Report abuse |
    • Bonnie UK

      the Jews are not a race, they are part of the Semitic race (which includes Arabs). So the drive to preserve their culture is not racist. People often confabulate racial & cultural issues. BTW, it's not racist to believe that white should marry white, etc. It's a genetic imperative.

      December 29, 2011 at 6:32 am | Report abuse |
      • Grumpster

        Yeah...right. That's like saying Mormons are a race because all their women are HOT, or Amish are as well because of their mens' ability to grow fabulous beards and women have hairy legs and square jaws. Yeah....doeesn't fly here. Compare a Jew baby to a non-Jew baby. The same. No DNA is going to separate that.

        December 29, 2011 at 6:48 am | Report abuse |
      • Bonnie UK

        Actually, DNA does separate Semites from non-Semites, that's why syndrome's like Tay-Sachs are exclusive to people of this racial type (Arabs & Jews). The lack of miscegenation pools the genetic code in a concentrated fashion, leading to a specific genotype. Sorry to burst your bubble with fact.

        December 29, 2011 at 7:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Bonnie UK

        Are Mormon women hot? We don't have any where I live.

        December 29, 2011 at 7:33 am | Report abuse |
  3. scott

    When someone says they are a Jew they need to clarify what they mean since being a Jew has two distinct and entirely different meanings. The first meaning implies being a Jew by religion and I might add that this category of Jewishness is open to any human on Earth. All you gotta do is go to temple and believe in the tenants of the religion. The second category of being a jew is of race. This is a strictly a genetic classification. To refer to ones self as a Jew by race one would have to contain the genetic markers in the alleles. The German Government developed tests based on these markers so that dominant traits(ie.hair color, cranial and other skeletal features) could be used to classify Jewish people. So to sum up, Ms. Chau of the article, are you a Jew by religion? Most certainly. Mazel Tov. Are you a Jew by race? Absolutely not. To put it more bluntly, would you have been led to the gas chamber? Not a chance. The two sets of chromosomes you inherited at birth preclude you from such a fate.

    December 29, 2011 at 5:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Cheryl

      Well, Chau's mother is European American. It doesn't indicate if she has Jewish heritage, and if she does, then her daughter is Jewish! A Jew is any person whose mother is a Jew, yes even with a Chinese First name!

      December 29, 2011 at 6:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Bonnie UK

        This is because Judaic inheritance is matrilineal.

        December 29, 2011 at 7:42 am | Report abuse |
    • sarai

      Scott don't you mean the Nazi tried to prove people of the Jewish faith as being of a distinct racial makeup in order to further isolate and promote racism among the German people? This was the goal for the Nazis in order to promote that people of the Jewish faith were not one and the same as the German population which could bring sympathy for them from the masses. These markers and tests were to enhance Nazi propaganda and Aryan superiority. These DNA markers as you've stated prove nothing more than the intermarriage of a group of people who adhered to religious traditions in much the same way as we have the Amish. Does that mean the Amish are their own racial/ethnic group or do they in fact remain of Nordic origin?

      December 29, 2011 at 6:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Grumpster

      Jew by race? Hardly. Your CAUCASIAN. That's as much as saying Irish or French are a race. Maybe you are a sub-race...but not a race. If you can convert FROM or TO being a Jew, then it is not a race. It's a belief system. Simple. Now quit being so d@mned smug.

      December 29, 2011 at 6:15 am | Report abuse |
      • Tony Rozycki esq

        Well put Grumpster.

        December 29, 2011 at 6:53 am | Report abuse |
    • AntiPalinAlaskan

      Wait a minute there, sport...do you have ANY proof at all that Hitler spared Jews who had converted to Judaism from the gas chambers? If that was the case, wouldn't every rabbi in Europe in the late 1930's have been busy drawing up fake conversion papers for their congregants?

      And why, in any case, would you want to question the Jewishness of converts? Shouldn't you be glad to have new people embracing your faith?

      December 29, 2011 at 6:24 am | Report abuse |
  4. Jenna

    Look, if you think you're a "chosen race" by a "god" then you might as well grab a swastika and stop calling me a racist, because that crap doesn't fly with me. Some of you posters can't see this very glaring fact about Judaism.

    I'm not saying every follower is a racist per se, but then they have been indoctrinated to a greater or lesser extent depending on their surroundings according to how much they believe in the texts of the Torah as being "holy writ".

    We've got ultra-orthodox spitting on little girls, abusing and molesting other ultra-orthodox children in NYC. So until you want to deal with these little problems by changing how you do business, then expect some flack for following a severely outdated, obsolete racist, s.exist, extremist religion that starts with total hogwash and ends in totalitarian theocracy.
    That is the root of much of "Jewish" culture – the old remnants of nasty days when people had to be nasty to survive.
    Well, we can be nicer now, within reason of course. One way is to realize how bad most of those old "rules" were and ARE NOW. Will they shoot you if you wear corderoy pants? No? Well that's one step forward – discarding the incredibly stupid and nasty bits to be found in most religions. You might as well know there's no reason to follow them unless you like the special feeling that racists have – which is just an extension of the primal instincts towards other people taken to extremes. Would you consider yourself "more human" than other people? "More special"? How far do you take it in your personal life? In your thinking and making decisions? Do you ever decide to spit on little girls? Why would you do that?

    December 29, 2011 at 5:09 am | Report abuse |
    • vinnie gambini

      Jenna, 'chosen people' are the closest, shortest words in english for the original hebrew text. The hebrew language in and of itself can be reversed quite easily by a simple change of a vowel, or inflection. In the service of Gd, i believe the notion of 'chosen people' is easier to interpret as 'in service to', ie: presidential guard, secret service, charged with responsibility, etc.
      Quite contrary to what most people think it means, ie: i'm chosen, special me, we are chosen special, a la aren't we special, we're the chosen- blah blah blah.......
      HOPE that provides an explanation to the misconception of those running around thinking they're "chosen" as in 'ego maniacs' , or the low self esteem folk who have to overcompensate for their psychological handicaps.

      December 29, 2011 at 5:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        I'm supposed to believe a guy who calls himself "vinnie gambini"??????

        December 29, 2011 at 6:07 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        vinnie, I'm guessing you haven't read the Torah.
        Otherwise you wouldn't talk like a Muslim saying "My religion is a religion of peace!" when it is clearly the opposite.
        Have you ever talked to a Muslim about Islam? I read the Q'uran. I've read the Bible. Do you really think "Jews" are genetically pure? Are you one of the "master race"? Shall I get your hobnailed boots out for you? To what extent do you declare keeping "bloodlines" to be NOT racist? Only a Jew if your mother's a Jew? Do you know how stupid that sounds?

        December 29, 2011 at 6:12 am | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        Well, he is right and you are wrong in any case.

        December 29, 2011 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        Anyone is welcome to convert if they want to do so. Doing so is rigorous and difficult. Judaism thinks there are multiple paths to god, unlike some other religions. We don't think there is any *need* for people who are not Jewish to become Jewish. That said, the majority of Jews in America WOULD recognize children of mixed marriages (no matter the race) to be Jews if they were practicing Judaism. I personally find the Orthodox notions of who is Jewish and who isn't to be offensive and do not agree with them and I'm very much still Jewish, just not Orthodox.

        December 29, 2011 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        Wow, now she's making generalizations about Muslims. What's next, Jenna, calling them all suicide bombers? You're a mean girl.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        Well said, Beth! Jenna can't seem to understand that Judaism is a diverse religion.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Akumen

        @ Jenna – what does his user handle have to do with the validity of his statement?

        December 29, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Simon

      We have one article on the Jewish diaspora come out and all I hear is the same anti-Semitic spew as always. We're not going away, you should know that by now!

      December 29, 2011 at 5:39 am | Report abuse |
      • sarai

        Simon no one wants you or any one else of the Jewish faith to go away. Just the fact that you and others are constantly promoting that people do shows how much you yourselve promote such ideas. The truth of the matter is that people want the truth. Judiasm is a religion has and always will be. One that has evolved out of different ideologies and mysticsm from both creative interpretations of different Rabbis and influences going way back to Babylon.

        December 29, 2011 at 6:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Jenna

      I think the problem here is that the group I identify with is all of humanity, past, present, and future.
      I am for equality and human rights for all.
      Being a member of the largest group gives me a different perspective on the actions of individuals who identify with smaller groups.
      Religions are a real problem in terms of equal rights and human rights because they can easily reflect the individual's tendencies towards sociopathic behavior under color of the religious beliefs.
      Thus we get girls getting spit on by "adults" for religious reasons.
      As for "racial purity" goals, the religion is also wrapped around the "racial supremacy" idea and built right into the personal culture – leading to a thinly veiled eugenic policy built into the marriage customs that, of course, varies according to the individual. But what of the influence by the immediate religious and clannish culture as shown by a single Rabbi excusing the racism because it is "religious" in nature and should therefore get a "free pass" even though it would fit right in with any Nazi ideas of restricting who marries who to the same extent as any such custom throughout the world. Who will go against their culture to do what is right? Who will take those steps to treat others equally?
      Some do. Some don't. But the religion has much to do with any racism in the first place otherwise it wouldn't have been enforced for so many years (incompletely I might add).
      So where are all the "Jews"? Everywhere. We are all human and thus can claim some shared DNA with everyone on the planet, all 7 billion of us, so we are all very distant cousins. All part of the same family. This racist stuff has got to stop.

      December 29, 2011 at 5:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Grumpster

      Being a Jew is a choice. Being black or Latino or Indian is not. Saying you are a race is just smug and self aggrandizing. You can convert to a Jew, but only Michael Jackson successfully converted races. He wasn't smug about it either. No wonder people can't stand Jews.

      December 29, 2011 at 6:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Many people would never consider or even question their basic identlty for many different reasons.
        How can someone make a choice if it was taken from them by the society they grew up in?
        If they do not even see the issue, how can they make a choice about it? And why would anyone choose a religion when they are so delusional, vicious, and only reflect the values of ancient tribes of robbers, murderers, and their slaves if they didn't have to?
        This is why religion is child abuse. It removes the choice and rarely do they escape the trap.

        December 29, 2011 at 6:26 am | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        Not really. I am Jewish. I wasn't practicing at all for much of my life and I was still very much considered Jewish by other Jews. YOu don't need to do anything in particular to be Jewish if you are born a Jew, as long as you do not convert to other religions such as Christianity. If you believe the messiah already came you are not Jewish by *definition*. Judaism is both a religion and an ethnicity. You, a non-Jew, I'm assuming, do not get to decide this. jews get to decide this. Orthodox alone do not get to decide. THere are other Jewish groups that make up 3/4 of all Jews and we also get to decide this.

        December 29, 2011 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
      • Frankie

        Religion is child abuse? There goes Jenna yet again attempting to throw all people in one group under the bus. So all religious people abuse their children because they're religious? Have you ever met NICE religious people – and I mean from any religion? Trust me, Jenna, they're there because people come in ALL forms, not just the ones you think are right. Go outside, meet people, I guarantee you humans aren't as evil as you think we are.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charles

      I see Jenna the bigot is back....did you even go to sleep, honey? You REALLY hate Jews that much you have to keep coming back to a blog to say it. GET A LIFE!

      December 29, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Frankie

      Jenna, you keep saying the Torah is racist yet have given no versus to illustrate what you claim is racism. Where? At least you're not longer saying ALL jews are racist like you did last night. I see you learned A LITTLE from what Ethiopia was saying.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Oodoodanoo

    "We Jews have survived, and the reason we have survived is because of this law. The minute it's bridged it takes a generation or two and there are no more Jews."

    I don't know why he's patting himself on the back over being exclusive. Jews only number about 13.5 million worldwide, and that's including many who don't consider themselves die-hard, devout Jews. Numerically, they're barely in the top ten religions.

    They don't exactly have a booming birthrate. They should, especially after losing 6 million in the Holocaust. But even in Israel, they're in danger of becoming a minority because of the higher Arab birthrate.

    Rabbi Blech speaks as if it's the duty of Jews in the fold to prevent the core of Judaism from getting polluted by outsiders. That's offensive to those who would like to identify as Jewish, and implies an insecurity about the ability of Judaism to compare favorably against other traditions.

    December 29, 2011 at 4:48 am | Report abuse |
    • godoflunaticscreation

      I don't get what all the fuss is about. The original Jews were not remotely considered white anyway.

      December 29, 2011 at 4:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Bonnie UK

      You have read something into the Rabbi's words which is not there. He clearly accepts converts as part of the Judaic tapestry. Is it that there is a difference between "wanting to identify as Jewish" and actually living according to Torah?
      II am a secular Ashkenazy Jew, I chose not to live as a religious Jew. Therefore, my family & congregation do not regard me or my son (whose father is Gentile) as Jewish. Them's the rules, folks.

      December 29, 2011 at 4:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Grumpster

      You survived because you can HIDE being a Jew. Good luck trying to hide if you are black or Latino. Meh.

      December 29, 2011 at 6:19 am | Report abuse |
  6. JJStuart1

    Let us not be so preoccupied with what is right that we can't see what is good

    December 29, 2011 at 2:34 am | Report abuse |
  7. Genius

    Well from experience I am African American, and I was born Christian but now identify as agnostic and i married a Saphardic Jew from Israel. I have been there numerous times and never been discriminated or treated differently. Israel is really diverse, i met people with Brazilian, Chinese, European, and Ethiopian backgrounds. People are just quick to judge, these days especially by news and media, don't let them control you, go and see for yourself. And all you PRO-Christians get a life, stop trying to feed everyone your brainwashed mentality. God in WITHIN.

    December 29, 2011 at 2:12 am | Report abuse |
    • MJ

      I for one was born naked, with only the color of my skin and no knowledge of anything. Therefore that is what I am. You cannot be born something you can change. Unless perhaps you are deformed and have surgery to alter that.

      December 29, 2011 at 2:20 am | Report abuse |
    • JC

      Yeah sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Nobody is buying you jews lies any longer.

      December 29, 2011 at 2:21 am | Report abuse |
    • shawn

      These converted Ashkenazi Jews from central and eastern Europe are not the real Jews nor are they the chosen people. Black people in America are the chosen people. Those Ashkenazi so-called Jews were never in bondage and enslave in Egypt or anywhere in the world. Black people in America were the once who were stolen from their land and taken to a strange land to be enslave to 400 yrs. The financiers, buyers and owners of the horrific trans-Atlantic slave trade were mainly Jews or so-called Jews. Get these books: THE SECRET RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BLACKS AND JEWS, volume 1 and 2. The second book is called JEWS SELLING BLACKS.

      December 29, 2011 at 2:23 am | Report abuse |
      • MJ

        I dont know how blacks are the chosen people, but neither are the jews of today, it was the hebrews who are the chosen people, and Im pretty sure hebrews looked similar to the arabs, after all they did descend from the same line of people. You cant mix for thousands of years and believe your of a chosen race. Its impossible to know for sure, has anyone directly traced their geneology back to abraham?

        December 29, 2011 at 2:28 am | Report abuse |
      • Karl

        Not to burst your bubble, shawn, but you do realize it was black people that sold other black people into slavery, right? So you should also blame native Africans for your current "plight."

        December 29, 2011 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
      • MJ

        I think, racism aside, slavery was the best thing to happen to "african americans" just look at africa, they have nothing, they live in shacks, they are very poor, and diseased, they rape women to cure themselves of aids, they dont have escalades and drugs, they dont have daytime tv, they have nothing.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:38 am | Report abuse |
      • shawn

        @MJ Hebrew is the language

        December 29, 2011 at 2:40 am | Report abuse |
      • MJ

        the language of the isrealites.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:42 am | Report abuse |
      • shawn

        Isrealites(black people in America) who were in bondage for 400 years.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Nate

        @sean
        Okay, so you think that the trans-Atlantic slave trade of Africans was written about in the Hebrew bible over 2000 years before it occurred.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:35 am | Report abuse |
      • Abudum

        Hey MJ, where in history in the Torah does it say Abraham was a Jew or Yahudi? Judaism was never called a religion in the Bible. How can you name a religion after Yahud or Judah who never brought a scripture and was not a prophet?

        December 29, 2011 at 4:53 am | Report abuse |
      • Randy

        Shawn I'm African American I thank god for slavery. The world would not have the wealth of great music we have if it were not for the process.

        December 29, 2011 at 5:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Bonnie UK

      There is little discrimination in Jewish society, people are treated as people first. You rightly observe that God is within but we attend Temple to receive the word of God through his chosen ones and affirm our life according to the Law. I am pleased that you are happy with your Sephardim and hope it lasts for many years to come.

      December 29, 2011 at 5:04 am | Report abuse |
  8. JC

    Judaism is a religion, jews are an ethnoreligion.

    December 29, 2011 at 2:12 am | Report abuse |
  9. JC

    Better not move to Israel. Light skinned jews are kicking black jews out left and right. You dark skinned, yellow skinned. brown skinned goyim can convert to Judaism all you want, the real jews will not accept you. Maybe on the surface when the light is shone on them, but in reality, real jews despise dark jews (proselytes).

    December 29, 2011 at 2:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Genius

      Have you ever been to Israel? No one is getting kicked out of anywhere get your facts together.

      December 29, 2011 at 2:14 am | Report abuse |
      • JC

        You better do some research before you open up your ignorant mouth. Yes, Jews are kicking blacks out of Israel left and right. Even men women, and children who were born in Israel. Look it up!! Or be responsible for your own ignorance!

        December 29, 2011 at 2:18 am | Report abuse |
    • wjshelton

      JC, cite your sources.

      December 29, 2011 at 3:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Rudy

      All of these comments avoid or dance around the fact that all man were born(e) from african decent . I would think all points looking forward are elementry. Those that can't see the truth are only holding on to their personal bigotry to promote a false and what anyone who reads knows is an untrue history of the origins of man. My point – there are only superficial differences that seperate all men and women .

      December 29, 2011 at 4:43 am | Report abuse |
  10. therealist

    I usually tell by the size of their wallet. That's how I know if they are Jewish or not..

    December 29, 2011 at 2:04 am | Report abuse |
    • MJ

      Their nose. But now im lost, is jew a religion or a race? I always thought it was a religion, because according to their law, a jew is not a jew unless he follows the jewish faith. Yet I see so many people calling themselves jews and they are catholic christian muslim athiest... so which is it people.

      December 29, 2011 at 2:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Runwalk1

        Interesting email but I doubt MJ has ever met a muslim whom has claimed to be a jew. It is possible but doubtful. Jews are definitely a race. As a race, from my understanding, is one whom can claim common ancestry. As a Jew I am confident that Abraham was one of my forefathers (if he did indeed exist) as all of my ancestors have been Jewish. Thus I claim to be a jew. Granted I don't go to synagougue nor follow all of the covenants as dictated by the jewish religiion so would not suggest that I am of the jewish religion. But am I a jew? Yes. Am I proud? Sure. Do I identify myself by such? Yes. But is that my sole definition of whom I am? Nope, just an agnostic Canadian jew. But mostly human and somewhat Canadian. It really doesn't matter and tends to create exclusive practices more so than the inclusive practices I enjoy daily.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Abudum

        That's ignorant. Judaism is a religion. You can't be born Jewish. You have to learn the components necessary and required to practice Judaism. The only Jews in the Old Testament were descendants of the house or bloodline of Judah and they weren't called Jews. They were Israelites and not Israelis.

        December 29, 2011 at 5:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Bonnie UK

        The race is Semite (covers both Arabs & Jews), the religion is Judaism. There is a racial characteristic because very few non-Semites can have certain genetic diseases (e.g. Tay-Sachs Syndrome)

        December 29, 2011 at 5:08 am | Report abuse |
  11. MJ

    ""But Blech also said that marriages to non-Jews are prohibited under Jewish law, and that marriage outside the faith is a threat to the continued viability of the Jewish people""

    Isn't that called racism? I dont believe white people should mix with blacks, but people call me racist for it. Nonetheless I still don\t believe in it. But I never denied being racist either.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
    • MJ

      |The nazis also believe that marriage outside of their race was a threat to the continued viability of the german people. And I totally agree, yet no other race but the white race will ever be considered racist for following their "law". Gotta love double standards eh?

      December 29, 2011 at 2:00 am | Report abuse |
    • shawn

      I agree and I'm black. White people should stay with white people and black people should stay with black people. But it is these so-called Ashkenazi Jews who promote this interracial relationship and marriage in other communities through Hollywood owned movies and TV shows. These so-call Jews want all the other races to mix while they keep their race pure and powerful.

      December 29, 2011 at 2:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Um, no.

      No, it's not considered racism, because Jews do not comprise a single race - which is pretty much the entire point of this article, if you were actually interested in reading it.

      December 29, 2011 at 3:08 am | Report abuse |
    • godoflunaticscreation

      Um, is right, it's called bigotry.

      December 29, 2011 at 3:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Bonnie UK

      Per one of my other posts, the Jews are not a race, they are part of the Semitic race (which includes Arabs). So the drive to preserve their culture is not racist. People often confabulate racial & cultural issues. BTW, it's not racist to believe that white should marry white, etc. It's a genetic imperative.

      December 29, 2011 at 5:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Liliangrae

        A genetic imperative. Please elaborate.

        December 29, 2011 at 5:43 am | Report abuse |
      • Bonnie UK

        Studies on animals have shown that they choose their mates from a pool of animals who are similar in appearance to themselves. The idea behind this (and it applies to humans) is that conformity holds a greater chance of survival & propagation (including greater social acceptance). The principle is Darwinian in origin and does not have anything to do with racism, which is an intellectual concept based on dislike of or placing a lack of value on people of other racial backgrounds. So biological imperatives cannot, per se, be racist.

        December 29, 2011 at 6:30 am | Report abuse |
  12. EB

    When people are unhappy with themselves, they begin to lash out at others. Take a look at yourselves first. What have you done to make this world a better place? Does saying ugly things about other groups of people make your life better? I don't get people, I really don't. America has turned into such an unhappy place. Don't blame others for your inadequacies.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      If that is the case, there would be no one to comment on these threads

      December 29, 2011 at 1:58 am | Report abuse |
  13. Joe

    The picture of the three children up above are most likely not even Jewish. It is instead more likely a random stock photo of children of different races.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Jan

      Why do you care either way?

      December 29, 2011 at 1:58 am | Report abuse |
      • allah

        curious
        is it a religious thing with women?
        the must practice their kiegels everyday or something?!

        December 29, 2011 at 1:59 am | Report abuse |
    • therealist

      How much money do they have? That's how I tell...

      December 29, 2011 at 2:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Because it is obviously false liberal propaganda used by CNN in an attempt to make it seem as if the Jewish religion was made up mostly of these minority groups. which it is not

      December 29, 2011 at 2:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        The article is about an organization that brings "minority" Jewish children together. I think the picture is very appropriate for the article.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:07 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        It may seem appropriate to you, but I still bet the photo of those particular children shown above are not even Jewish. If that in fact were the case, it would be false propaganda by CNN, which I believe it is. I would not put it past them to try and pull the wool over everyone's eyes

        December 29, 2011 at 2:15 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        It's a photo of a diverse group of kids because the article is discussing a camp about diversity. Just like if I see an article about, let's say, a mailbox in Ontario, but they show a stock picture of any old mailbox, I don't get in a hissy.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        I suppose. I just don't picture those kids as being Jewish at all, and I'd bet I was right. But hey, if it works for you.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:23 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        Still not sure why you care if the kids in the picture are jewish or not. Do you read books, or just look at the pictures for the information? The picture is the most irrelevant part of the article, and could actually be removed without having any affect on the content.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Stephanie Siek

        Actually, Joe, the photo at the top of the article is of three Jewish children who participate in a summer camp run by Be'chol Lashon. That picture pretty well illustrates the point of the article, which is that the American Jewish community is becoming more diverse. The In America blog was designed to cover issues related to the many ways in which Americans identify themselves, which includes things like, race, religion, immigration status, ethnicity, disability, etc. If you're not interested in reading them, that's fine. Don't. And leave the commenting to people who are interested.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  14. allah

    why is it jewish women have the tightest puzzies?!
    everytime i bang a jew women-i almost always blow my load on the first thrust!
    i mean......TIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    December 29, 2011 at 1:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      You're an idiot, and a virgin

      December 29, 2011 at 1:53 am | Report abuse |
      • allah

        !!!!curious
        is it a religious thing with women?
        the must practice their kiegels everyday or something?!

        December 29, 2011 at 2:00 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Yep, you're definitely a virgin

        December 29, 2011 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Bonnie UK

        One down, 71 to go...

        December 29, 2011 at 7:31 am | Report abuse |
  15. AH

    Its nice to see that so many people are becoming awakened to the hypocritical and hateful Jew. These Khazar 1%'ers had their time in the sun, its time for them to detach their parasite fangs, and begone.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      OWS babble is on another forum...

      December 29, 2011 at 1:49 am | Report abuse |
    • doug

      first it will be your kind probably that dissapears even though you multiply like filthy rats.....one day one of your own crazies will blow up all of you

      December 29, 2011 at 2:01 am | Report abuse |
  16. Ron

    All I want to know is, where are all the atheist yahoo's on this blog?! They attack every Christianity article in waves with their recycled garbage insults, but not one of you fuc kers comes out for this article?? Or maybe they were all jews posing as atheists??

    December 29, 2011 at 1:34 am | Report abuse |
    • ARMY

      You are correct. Most Jews are atheists!!!! I'm one of them.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:48 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      ARMY isn't a jew....read his other comments. If he is, he's the dumbest one out there.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:50 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        Yes I am Jewish.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:53 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        DAVE–Stop being so childish.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
  17. TX

    You guys should read up about the Ethiopean Jews who live in Israel. They are less than 2% of the population, and yet are prescribed 95% of the Depo Provera contraceptives in Israel. Why is that? Racism. The Euro-centric racism towards so-called lesser races has led to great amounts of discrimination over the decades by Jewish doctors trained 1930s European universities, and in the doctors they then trained in the 1960s and on. Even Sephardic Jewish women being treated by Ashkenazi Jewish doctors found themselves more encouraged than Ashkenazi Jewish women to get their tubes tied and get intra-uterine devices inserted. Do a search on it. You will find it.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Rastaman

      The so-called "falasha" jews of Ethiopia are, I believe, the most original jewish type in the world. Very interesting history. If the scientific community has basically proved that humanity as a whole originated in Africa (by ancient remains, and also dna), isn't it reasonable to assume the "original people" (i.e. first, like "Adam & Eve) were also "african" in appearance and culture. That's something a lot of people have overlooked or avoided.

      December 29, 2011 at 3:00 am | Report abuse |
  18. Esther Fino

    I notice a lot of hate in these posts. A lot of anger. I am a Sepharidic Jewish American. My parents were Greek from Salonika, Greece. My family background is Spanish-speaking, Greek-speaking, English-Speaking. It's really too bad in this day and age, this hatred of one another still exists. I was raised in a Jewish home and was taught to respect all people, all religions; but I know that others were not taught this. From early on, I was called "Christ Killer" before I even was old enough to know the history of it all. I'm just saying, can't we respect one another instead of listening to the hate? Is it ever going to end? Wouldn't it be great if in 2012, we could learn to respect one another as human beings first? I'll be the first one to admit that it is fun to learn about people's backgrounds. If you were to see me, you would think I'm white. But I have never felt white in my soul. Maybe that's because so many of us are made to feel like outsiders in our own America.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
    • MJ

      IIm white, I feel white, aint gonna try and feel something I aint. Aint gonna try and belong to something I aint. Thats the problem with this world, everyone is trying to be something else to be accepted. Im part german, some of my family came from germany after WW2, so what If people call germans nazis, dont offend me. I am what I am and I cant ever change that.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:38 am | Report abuse |
      • Fred

        Can you change your grasp on the English language?

        December 29, 2011 at 1:42 am | Report abuse |
      • MJ

        Yup, if it was something I cared about I most definately could. But I really do not care online, I am not writing an essay or a book. So far as Im concerned, go be an eturd somewhere else.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
      • harlequin

        My father is an Apache a direct descendant of Geronimo. My mother side is descended from Spanish Jews. My wife is German and we live in Germany.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Rhonda

      Your post brought tears to my eyes. You are right, we should all respect one another, and one another's religion. As white as I am physically, I have a GGGG Grandfather who was Jewish. I have a daughter who has brown eyes and olive skin, and her two children have brown eyes and olive skin. Let us all get along and love one another....yes? 🙂

      December 29, 2011 at 1:44 am | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Wow, Rhonda, what a change of tune!

        December 29, 2011 at 1:50 am | Report abuse |
  19. Jenna

    There are no such things as Jews, only people who want to call themselves that because they want to belong to a group.
    That's it. That's the whole schmeer. Group-identlty and projection of same.
    In reading the article that was filled with such racism, I wonder why there needs to be an anti-defamation league for all the several racist groups calling themselves "Jews"? Shouldn't we point out the racism? Why should any racist group get a free pass from the world community? Racism leads to human rights abuses. Racism needs to be stopped.

    December 29, 2011 at 1:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Ethiopia

      "There are no such things as Jews, only people who want to call themselves that because they want to belong to a group."

      By that logic there is no such thing as Canadians, Americans, Palestinians (well Newt would say they don't exist), Germans, or Italians. People can belong to a specific group or ethnicity without being prejudice against other groups. You present a false choice.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        You can dance around it all you like, but you cannot identify with an ethnic group without 1) viewing outsiders as being a separate ethnic group, and 2) treating outsiders in direct relation to how you view them.
        How you view a person usually determines how you treat them. If you think of yourself as being part of some special set of DNA "ethnicity", then you will almost surely project that "ethnicity" into racism at some level.
        Doing "eugenics" and justifying it using "religious texts" does not remove the essential racism of the action or the motives.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        "You can dance around it all you like"

        I'm not dancing around it. I am saying that applying your logic there is no such thing as Germans, Italians, Americans, etc. Do you believe this to be so?

        "you cannot identify with an ethnic group without 1) viewing outsiders as being a separate ethnic group, and 2) treating outsiders in direct relation to how you view them."

        Sure, if you are in one group, you view another as an outsider. If I am American, I know a Canadian is not an American - how does it follow that I am prejudiced in any way against Canadians?

        "How you view a person usually determines how you treat them. If you think of yourself as being part of some special set of DNA "ethnicity", then you will almost surely project that "ethnicity" into racism at some level."

        Sure, how one views a person usually determines how one treats them. But how does it follow that the response will be racism - hatred or prejudice against someone on account of their ethnic or religious background. One can view someone else as an individual while recognizing superficial differences. How does it follow if I meet a Canadian I will somehow be prejudiced against him because I'm American?

        People shouldn't be racist. But having a culture or nationality of one's own does not preclude one from appreciating other cultures nor does it require one be bigoted towards another.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:42 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        A country is not only a geographic area, it is a concept and is a group-identlty as well. Not a good analogy because so many countries contain hundreds of sub-groupings, many of them ethnic, cultural, etc.

        I said, "almost surely" and not "automatically". I am not painting everyone with the same brush here. I'm talking about their environment to the degree that they identify with any particular group. A relative doesn't want outsiders around and bans marriage to them. They tell you this and you want to remain part of the group more than marry an outsider then guess what happens?
        See? I'm not saying everyone does it. But it is at the roots of the perceived group-identlty in this case, this inclusiveness and clannishness. In many respects it is the leftover social-group identlty from the "old days".
        Well, we're living in modern times here. If you want to follow a racist ideology or consider yourself part of an ethnic group, go ahead. But when your ethnic group identlty causes you to treat an "outsider" differently than someone within your group – what does that look like? It looks like RACISM. Maybe in a good way, and maybe not. But it is not guaranteed that anyone will treat an "outsider" to some group differently. I'm just saying it's very likely, almost certain, when dealing with Judaism and the resultant "Jewish" culture even when "watered down" or "very secular".
        Bias and bigotry tend to be the rule with human beings. It does not matter what group you identify with, does it?
        So how am I racist when I do not see your "race" but only that you are human and acting like a racist?

        December 29, 2011 at 2:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        Using Jenna's concept of what makes a statement not-racist, she could also claim:

        "I'm not saying everyone, but it is very likely, blacks will eat chitlins." "I'm not saying everyone, but it is very likely, muslims will blow people up." "I'm not saying everyone, but it is very likely, hispanics are illegal." And so on...Do you not see how everyone who has ever attempted to alienate a group of people while trying to make themselves look like they care also says the same things as you, just about different peopple? Face it, Jenna, you're one of those people you claim to hate.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:15 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        By trying to put words in my mouth that I would never say, you really rank up there as one of the nastiest little trolls here today.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        “There are no such things as Jews, only people who want to call themselves that because they want to belong to a group.” By that logic there is no such thing as Canadians, Americans, Palestinians (well Newt would say they don’t exist), Germans, or Italians.

        "By trying to put words in my mouth that I would never say..."

        I wasn't putting words in your mouth. You made a statement "There are no such things as Jews, only people who want to call themselves that because they want to belong to a group" that logic applies equally well to any ethic group. You have back tracked and now say that you do not believe the existence of ethnic groups are ipso facto racist. Good, I'm glad you cleared that up. But if you continue to deny the right of Jews to do what every other people have a right to do - to belong - then you are signalling out one group of people for discriminatory treatment - which really is kind of racist.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:41 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        Jenna, I was simply pointing out the logic that you and your racist cohorts share. Anyone who uses your logic is racist, plain and simple. How many different ways do you need to be told that to get the picture?

        December 29, 2011 at 2:38 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Ethiopia, I was talking to Jan / Fran / whoever that is and I already dealt with your post if you hadn't noticed.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:46 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        What no one has yet mentioned, is the racism directed at "Jews" by many people throughout history.
        If you had, I would have had the opportunity to tell you that I would defend "Jews" against racism just as strongly as I am condemning those individual Jews who ARE racist. I am against racism, period.
        What you guys apparently have the biggest problem with is that I am going after JEWS who ARE RACIST and just pointing out some of the reasons WHY they would be RACIST in the FIRST FCKING PLACE!
        You get me now?
        I don't give a shlt what group you identify with, if you're being a racist I'm going to damn well point it out!
        And fck you if you can't handle that!

        December 29, 2011 at 2:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        "I would have had the opportunity to tell you that I would defend "Jews" against racism just as strongly as I am condemning those individual Jews who ARE racist. I am against racism, period. What you guys apparently have the biggest problem with is that I am going after JEWS who ARE RACIST"

        Not sure why Jews is in quotation marks, but regardless, your anti-racism is commendable. Perhaps you should have been more clear from the get go about opposing Jews who happen to be, as plenty of other individuals are, racist instead of you know, saying that Jews don't exist or calling Judaism racist without clarifying the scope of your statement.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:56 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        Actually, Jenna, our problem was with how you have been attempting to lump all Jews into one group and label that group as "racist." However, it seems Ethiopia has convinced you to back-track on that opinion. It's so nice to see people grow and learn. 🙂

        December 29, 2011 at 2:56 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        And again I will simply point to my words to show how wrong you are.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Well to be fair, you haven't clarified. Do Jews exist as a people or don't they? You can't have it both ways. Obviously Jews choose to identify as Jews. Just like a lot of Irish Americans, when you ask what their nationality is or what's their ethnic background they say "Irish", they choose to identify as such.

        But, it seems like you have clarified your other previous statements, which we all appreciate.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:06 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        What words, Jenna? These words?: There are no Jews. All we have are a bunch of people running around calling themselves that and being racist to boot.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        Yes, Ethiopia, we most certainly do! What a long road it has been...

        December 29, 2011 at 3:12 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Ah. I see. Yes, I should have put "and some of whom are racist to boot." Considering everything I've been typing, you mean you were hung up on that one sentence? But consider the ethnic identlty. It is the basis for racism.
        Tell me, how can you have racism without an ethnic group from which to do it from?
        I mean, are you stupid or what? Don't you see how racism needs a base and that base is ethnicity / ideas of race?
        So, if we are talking human race, yeah, I'm a racist to any extraterrestrial that might want to wipe us out.
        But within our common humanity? –I tell you to take your ethnic group-identlty and make damn sure it doesn't cause you to do something racist and I won't have a problem with you. And just what do you expect me to do about it anyway?
        Call the anti-defamation league? Because if you were "Jewish" your crazy rants against me could be considered defaming to the "reputation" of all "semitics" ha ha ha! I just had to laugh there. Such irony.
        I am a member of the human race. My goals are in the future, not the past. History is a lesson we have yet to change.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        If you would have said some from the beginning, we wouldn't be having this debate, but you chose to say all. Why?

        December 29, 2011 at 4:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        I can keep explaining my position until I fall asleep or get sick of how you all like to glom onto one word in one sentence where I left out a modifier and ignore EVERYTHING ELSE I've been saying, well, let's just say it looks a little deliberate from where I'm sitting.
        Judaism is racist in the text. This inflames you, I know, but it is only the truth. It damages your self-identlty because you probably haven't tried to check out Judaism with an eye towards finding racism. But, hey, they wrote an article about it, so why is it so hard for you to accept that there is racism in Judaism and Jewish culture?
        I just go to the roots of the problem, something most people don't have time to do. That helps these truths to become painful to face and can make people frustrated and angry to be hit from a blind spot like this.
        But the whole article fairly screams it. I just put it in a more direct fashion using my take on the situation.
        It's called "commenting" and it can be fun to say something provocative that is also a harsh truth. Call me a troll, but I like having a good position from which to argue. It really helps if you're fighting from a good position.
        Nobody like any suggestion that they might be racist or seen as racist. That's normal, but stupid.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        I should add that I want all racism to disappear from human society someday. That includes the deep-seated ethnic-and religion-based types of racism. I am fighting for the widest possible human rights, and an inclusive culture becomes racist to the same degree that it contains an ethnic group-identlty. The stronger your feelings of "race" the more likely you are to be biased in your thinking and your subsequent motivations for personal action, including, but not limited to racist violence.
        Look, if you think you're a "chosen race" by a "god" then you might as well grab a swastika and stop calling me a racist, because that crap doesn't fly with me.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:25 am | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        Jenna, if you want all bigotry to disappear from this world, you need to start by killing yourself. You're the biggest one on this board.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fran

      First comment I've read and just have to say that you are a horrible person, Jenna. Horrible, horrible person.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Fran, would you like to explain or do you just hate people who tell the truth?

        December 29, 2011 at 1:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      Jenna, you're one of the biggest racist/anti-semite (whatever you want to call it!) on this board.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Since I have said nothing racist, I guess it's true that you are a liar, Sarah. I don't like liars.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Ethiopia already told you in your last tirade how you're a hateful person. Here's a portion I thought to be particularly compelling:

        "I don't have prejudices. I take individuals as individuals. When people belonging to a racist group do and say racist things, I just want to point that out."

        Apparently you don't take individuals as individuals since you continually use "Jews" in broad, generalized terms accusing "Jews" without distinction, of various bad things.

        She explained to you in the easiest way possible how you are a judgmental person, but you still cannot see it. I believe Beth also attempted to explain this to you, as did Dave. How about the next time you're on a bus, you yell out your opinion of Jews as loud as you can and guage those reactions as well.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Sarah, I'm sure you're a wonderful sort of human being and might even have someone who loves your ignorant rants, but I am only pointing out the truth. You say you are a Jew? Of what sort? Religious? Cultural? Neither but you like to "belong"??
        1) Judaism is racist. If you want to go there, just remember you started it.
        2) Jewish culture is often racist. We can go there too.
        3) An ethnic group, in these modern times, is clearly racist as one's DNA will show we are all human.
        4) To differentiate based on ethnic sub-groups is the very definition of racism.

        So you see, Sarah, I am not racist. You are. You appear to have some sort of hang-up over this stuff.
        I suggest you stop calling me racist, since I am clearly NOT racist.
        Now if you were an alien from another planet, I might have a few issues in defense of the human race, but that's about it.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        "1) Judaism is racist."

        You insist you're not the racist, but you paint with such a broad brush. How is Judaism racist? That would come as a surprise to Jews of varying skin colors, it would also come as a surprise to all the Jews that supported, disproportionately in terms of their population, the civil rights movement for African-Americans. But maybe it is that you have a novel definition of racism, something akin to "any distinct ethnic or religious religious group is ipso facto racist". No one accepts that definition as it would literally make everyone racist.

        "2) Jewish culture is often racist"

        See above.

        "3) An ethnic group, in these modern times, is clearly racist as one's DNA will show we are all human."

        Then hispanics are racist by virtue of being hispanic, arabs are racist by virtue of being Arab. Now what is that word for someone who heaps generalizations and derogatory slurs against on account of being born into a certain people? Oh right...a racist.

        Of course, we are all human, who is disputing that? Germans are German, but they are human and should be treated as such. Italians are Italians, Poles are Poles, and so forth. Each has their own culture and history, recognizing that doesn't mean we put ethnicity ahead of humanity nor does it logically lead to racist behavior.

        "4) To differentiate based on ethnic sub-groups is the very definition of racism."

        Check your dictionary one more time. We differentiate all the time, to be racist is to have a hatred against someone for who they are – what they were born as – not for what they do. If I hate a particular African-American guy because he mistreated me, it doesn't mean I am a racist. If an African-American mistreated me and then from that I extrapolated that all African-Americans are bad and I should hate all of them for being born with a certain skin pigmentation - that is racist.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:59 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        How one can call an entire religion and all of its followers racist and think she's doing it because she's an open-minded individual is beyond me. When the KKK does it, they're mean; when Jenna does it, she's just stating a fact.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:55 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Ethiopia, you make some of my points for me. I keep pointing to the psychology behind group-identlties and you consistently ignore it. That takes some doing, so I'm starting to wonder if you're just being deliberately obtuse.
        The Torah gives many examples from which I could draw something to throw in your face as being clearly racist.
        I can only assume you have never read the damn thing.
        And, again, I am not saying this stuff is automatically expressed by every follower. I'm just saying the religion has it written down. The religion is racist. Not necessarily any follower of same. But the religious texts are CLEARLY racist.
        If you don't like that, don't talk to me, go talk to a Rabbi and see how far you get.
        As to ethnicity, it does not automatically lead to racism. How many times do I have to tell you this? Will you not see what I wrote? Do you just jump from one comment to another without taking the time to read the damn thing?
        I say it CAN lead to racism, as can be shown by history. I'm not saying every individual is racist, but that there is a real likelihood of racism being generated by the group-identlty one is born into or chooses.
        Again, the psychology of group-identlties and projection of same, when speaking of ethnic groups, CAN and DOES lead to racism. Not with everyone, not all the time, maybe not you but maybe that other person. Individual results may vary. K?
        And you agree with me at the end, so thank you for that.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:22 am | Report abuse |
      • C.D. Tyler

        @ Jenna

        Jews are not racist
        Christians are not racist
        Muslims are not racist
        Hindus are not racist
        Buddists are not racist
        Certain PEOPLE are racist

        December 29, 2011 at 2:26 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Here, I'll fix that for you:
        C.D. Tyler

        @ Jenna

        Jews are not necessarily racist
        Christians are not necessarily racist
        Muslims are not necessarily racist
        Hindus are not necessarily racist
        Buddists are not necessarily racist
        But...
        The Torah is racist
        The Bible is racist
        The Q'uran is racist
        and quite likely most of the other religious texts are racist as well but I have not read them.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:35 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Wow, she just flat out doesn't get it. Good luck with this one, everyone! Night night

        December 29, 2011 at 2:46 am | Report abuse |
      • C.D. Tyler

        I've read them too and the only thing racist about them is some people's interpretation of them and their habit of taking certain passages out of context in order to push their particular agenda. Most religions look down on marrying outside their faith. They would like the "outsider" to convert to keep the faith pure. That is not racist, it is their way of keeping the religion pure. The whole point of religion as a form of control over peoples lives (read govenment) is to make everyone conform to one tenant. If you let anyone come along and do what they like it creates anarchy in the society. These religions were created when people really needed to count on one another to survive and everyone being on the same page was aa paramount necessity.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:57 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Well, Ethiopia, the problem is that, out of all the other religions, Judaism is also closely identified with the "Jewish" ethnic group. Not many religions identify with an ethnic group. Judaism does. This brings up many other differences and how intertwined so much of it is in terms of psychology, sociology, the particular interactions with GROUP-IDENT!TIES of not just ethnic identlty but cultural and other identlties as well.
        So when most of the religion is the basis for much of the ethnic and cultural group-identlties(there's that word again) and this informs the actions and motivations of any group of people who are just as human as the rest of us, then the religious-based racism will have a correlative effect depending on how closely a member views outsiders as having the same human rights as everyone else.
        I'm arguing from our common humanity and pointing out the negative effects of these racist religions (based on text) where everyone can have a different interpretation of any inherently racist religious text as a basis for racist actions on the part of each individual human being depending on the strength, as it were, of the influence upon the individual of anything that could lead a person to think and do racist things.
        I can keep typing this stuff all night. I am for human rights. EQUAL human rights. You can't attack me without attacking yourself, since I am for YOUR rights as well. Every individual should have equal rights under the law.
        Most religions are against equal rights. Some are not. Guess where Judaism comes in? Against equal rights.
        Religion informs the culture in some cases, so to the extent that any racist policies may have formed part of the culture, the likelihood of racist attltudes or actions is almost certain in those situations. Every situation is different. Individuals are different. But some things people do in how they view and treat other people is driven by religious beliefs.
        When the text you use to marry people is based on thousands of years of racist policies in a racist world, is it any wonder that the "Jew" DNA is a myth? An extended clan in some cases, but as we can see in the picture above to consider yourself part of an ethnic group after all these years tends to lead to some racist policies embedded in the culture, the fairly religious culture, that is based on traditions handed down from when everybody was practicing genocide on their neighbors? I mean let's get real here. Ancient "Jewish" tribes practiced genocide, were intensely racist as was the norm in those days, and killed anyone who stood in their way and took the survivors for slaves and took their gold.
        The texts reflect this mindset. And the culture often reflects the mindset as well depending on how each individual identifies with the ideology embedded within the culture – again, every situation is not necessarily the same, every family is not the same, every neighborhood is not the same.
        But the religious text has no place in a world where we are trying to fight racism, unless you specifically combat that aspect of it from within yourself and / or your culture. I'm just pointing it out.
        Like I said before. If you don't like it, too bad. I'll fight against all forms of racism, not just the ones you want me to fight.
        I can see I'm hitting close to home here. You sound like some "black" people I've heard who become frantic when anyone tries to point out some glaring racism in "black" culture as done by some individuals where everyone can see.
        If you as an individual is being racist, I will point it out, but I am also telling you why some people are racist.
        In this case, "Jews" who only share a culture based on extended family relationships and old, racist policies from the past. And you guys keep getting angry at me for doing something I'm not doing. But I've run into this before.
        When we can modify our group-identlties towards equal human rights for every single human being regardless of their religion or lack of it, then I'd say we're on the right track. But go ahead and freak out about that as well. Go ahead.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:43 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        "Most religions are against equal rights. Some are not. Guess where Judaism comes in? Against equal rights."

        I thought you weren't a bigot, Jenna. Didn't you just fight for God knows how long to prove that point? Then you go and say this. Sigh. I'm just going to pretend people like you don't exist, just like you think I don't exist because I'm a Jew. NOW we're on the same page.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:55 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Jan, talk to your Rabbi. Ask him about race. See what he says and pick it apart as I'm sure you'll have to do.
        Read the Torah for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Read the racist crap that's in there. It's old crap, you don't have to follow it and I'm not saying you do. I'm saying it's in the Torah. What is Judaism without the Torah? Ask your Rabbi that.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:06 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        Please cite the versus you claim are racist.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        Then tell me how those versus are a direct reflection of Jewish practice.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:09 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Here's where I get off.
        The rest of the lesson is you having to ask yourself and your Rabbi those questions as an exercise for the student.
        Read the Torah. Look for what you already know is there. There are children being spit upon by the se.xist part of Judaism in Israel. In the article there are people being banned from marrying into the racist relgion/culture to the extent that it is ethnic in origin and application.
        Right there in the fcking article. I shouldn't have to tell you these things. You need to open your eyes and look at what's in front of your face! Doesn't the Rabbi excuse the racism as being part of the religion? Are you dense or what?

        December 29, 2011 at 4:37 am | Report abuse |
      • vinnie gambini

        Jews in American at the MOST represent 1.7% of the population.
        Who is and who isn't a Jew.....seriously?
        You wanna be Jewish, gezundaheidt to you, you don't want to be Jewish, also gezundaheidt to you.
        We don't care.
        But as Nicky Santoro said, "Be Nice".
        But, Jenna, i gotta tell u, i get a feeling you're angry abt something that's deeply bothering to you......drill it out babe.
        Life is short, make it about being happy 🙂

        December 29, 2011 at 5:57 am | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        Hello, Jenna, Jan asked you a question and you couldn't even answer it. If you're going to hate Jews so much, as least be able to back up your reasons.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Noah

      Jenna = pig....how about that for a generalization, b *** h?! Do you get it yet?!

      December 29, 2011 at 1:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Thanks, Noah. I'm glad you could get that out of your system. It must have been building up for some time, right?

        December 29, 2011 at 1:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Go f yourself, Jenna. Seriously, I don't even care about sounding articulate. You're a sick joke for a "caring" person.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Yes, Dave, you sure are not trying very hard, are you? Lazy words from a lazy reader and lazy thinker.
        You call me racist when it is you. I'm rubber. You're glue. Get used to it.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:25 am | Report abuse |
    • June

      Jenna, please don't ever breed. America doesn't need any more bigotted people in it.

      December 29, 2011 at 2:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        That is very racist and bigoted of you, June. Thanks for looking stupid and making me look great.
        I couldn't have done it without you.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:26 am | Report abuse |
      • Frankie

        @Jenna – I completely miss the racism in this statement. All she said is YOU'RE a jerk, which is true. Not that all white people or whatever you are are jerks, THAT would be racism.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Frankie, she said "breed". That's racist as hell.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Frankie

        breed (v): to procreate...If only certain humans procreated, then maybe it'd be racist?

        December 29, 2011 at 3:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        She wants a human race without my DNA. How racist would you like it to be? That isn't enough for you?
        Fine. I don't live for your approval, fortunately. We'll just have to disagree on that.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Frankie

        Jenna, again, she was directing her comment to you and you alone. You alone do not make up a race, you are simply Jenna, and it is just this Jenna person to whom she was directing her comment. She was telling this to you, an individual, not all the Jennas of the world.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Frankie

        If she did not want you to breed because she doesn't want your DNA in the one big race called human, that's STILL not racist because she's directing this comment to you and you alone, not all humans.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:13 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Tell me eugenics isn't based on notions of "racial purity" and I'll call you a liar to your face.

        December 29, 2011 at 4:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Frankie

        She's not advocating eugenics. YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fred

      You are by far the most bizarre person on this feed. At least the other bigots aren't trying to twist it into something positive. Admit who you are, Jenna. Let that freak flag fly!

      December 29, 2011 at 2:44 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Because I'm for equal right and against all forms of racism that you think I'm a freak?
        How sad and pathetic you are, my word!

        December 29, 2011 at 3:49 am | Report abuse |
      • Frankie

        It looks like it took you over an hour to say you're not racist (supposedly). I can see his confusion...

        December 29, 2011 at 3:52 am | Report abuse |
  20. Pete

    Christianty was always supposed to be a Jewish religion. The Jews rejected Christ because they wanted a dictator instead to lead them to power and dominate with an iron fist similar to the way Rome did. When the Jews found out the real reason Jesus came they rejected him outright. Yet through it all the Jews are still Christ's people. Pretty ironic

    December 29, 2011 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      Jews believe the Messiah will come, so, assuming your statement is correct, why would they reject Jesus for finding out his "true reason for coming (which, according to you, would be because he's the messiah)." You make no sense.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Jesus came with a new covenent and a new set of laws that the Jews rejected. They did not want to "repent" and accept him as their savior because it required too much sacrifice, they were too proud, and it did not fit in with their materialistic needs. They wanted a materialistic god that would shower them with power, wealth and good fortune. This is the same messiah that the Jews are still waiting on today

        December 29, 2011 at 1:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Joe, you are an extremely ignorant and hateful person.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Hateful? Really? Please explain yourself

        December 29, 2011 at 1:22 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        You say Jews are greedy and materialistic, yet don't see how you're being mean. Your naivete of your own comment is amazing.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:28 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        The Jews are an amazing people. Always have been, always will be. They are blessed above all others by God, that is why they are his people. This, however, does not mean they are not without their flaws. The Jews fail to realize it is THEY who were supposed to set the example for Christianity throughout the world. THEY were supposed to be Jesus' shining light. Instead, the Jews left it up to the Gentiles to pick up the slack for them. This was not the way God intended for things to be

        December 29, 2011 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
    • allah

      so...cheapo blackies hung like a horse?
      now that is a stereotype

      December 29, 2011 at 1:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      You have not learned anything about Judaism except what your religion taught you. YOu can't know another religion this way. YOu do not know anything about Judaism from the sound of your post.

      December 29, 2011 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
  21. CA

    I love and laugh at those zionists who call people 'troll' when they speak the truth.... Jews are taught from very young age to dislike and not trust any non-Jews 😀 Yes, I say the truth now too!

    December 29, 2011 at 12:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Sad that you think that. I'm a Jew raised in a very non-Jewish area and most of the people I love are not Jewish. What about you?

      December 29, 2011 at 1:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      Nope, not true. I speak from personal experience, as many others can as well. I've dated outside the Jewish religion and nobody burned me at the stake....or cared.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:08 am | Report abuse |
  22. Matthew

    All Jews should just convert to Christianity and be done with it! Jesus came to Earth 2000 years ago as the true messiah.... Jews give up and start accepting Christ like Messianic Jews do and that sect keep growing.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
    • mighty

      Didn't the Jew Killed Jesus!

      December 29, 2011 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Learn proper English, then come back

        December 29, 2011 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Emmy

        No, the Roman Catholics killed Jesus... ironic!

        December 29, 2011 at 1:11 am | Report abuse |
      • MJ

        Catholics werent around, nor any christian religion till after Jesus. The romans executed Jesus while the jews were under the occupation of rome according to the wishes of the jews. The romans were pagan, they believed in many gods similar to the greeks, Im amazed how many idiots roam the earth, and spew nonsense without knowledge.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
      • Tracey

        Yes, the Jews did kill Jesus, but they try to blame it on the romans. That is how Jews opearte, they blame it all on others, and since Jews own and operate most of the media and academia, they get away with it.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:16 am | Report abuse |
      • C.D. Tyler

        The Jews did not kill Jesus, the Romans did. Actually, if the Romans had not been in Judea at the time and it had been under Jewish rule, the worst that would have happen to Jesus was he would have been exiled for being a trouble maker. Nothing he did warranted a death sentence under Jewish law. It was Roman law and rule that killed him.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
  23. ARMY

    JUDAISM NEEDS TO DIVERSIFY:
    Do what Mormons are doing now by blitzing commercials nationwide of interracial Mormon families. There should be commercials, TV shows, rock star performers, and movie stars with Jews who are black, Arab, or oriental.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      Wow, oriental is an extremely outdated and racist term.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:01 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        Fine. I'll say Asian instead of oriental. Though saying Oriental is more precise because it includes Asians and Indians-Pakistanis.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
  24. DC

    I thought Judaism was invitation only...?

    December 29, 2011 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
  25. New Jersey father

    Jews are the main reason for "WAR ON CHRISTMAS" in America... ridiculous !! Israel ban Christmas totally, while America recognize Hanukkah and permits it everywhere :/

    December 29, 2011 at 12:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Pete

      I guess that's why Jesus will always be the king of Jews, and the king of Christians as well. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

      December 29, 2011 at 12:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Micah

      Your War on Christmas on a contrived idea. Christmas was not even recognized by our Christian founding fathers as a holiday worthy of a day off for 87 years. The original puritan "Christian" settlers of America banned the celebration of or even the utterance of Merry Christmas. Christmas was a pagan holiday, and the Hebrew Bible, Old Testament to Christians, even has a specific verse in Jeremiah that bans the decoration of trees in celebration of pagan traditions. It never ceases to amaze me the ignorance of Christians when it comes to religious history.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Saya

        Christmas Day is a federal and state holiday in the United States. It is celebrated because of the birth of Jesus Christ. NO Jesus = No CHRISTmas. PERIOD!

        December 29, 2011 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        So what, Saya? This country was built on religious freedom and tolerance. Christmas is there, every year, and it isn't going to go away, although it is possible one day the Muslims will be the majority here and you will see Christmas be less important and some Muslim holidays become national ones. (shrug) So, what? It is nothing more than a secular day off for me. What is the point of your post? There is no war on Christmas or if there is Christmas has already won. That won't change in our life times.

        December 29, 2011 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • mighty

      America's exceptionalism...... No matter what they say American's are the most diverse and tolerant people on earth.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Emmy

      Interesting, I've spent xmas in Israel many times and there are xmas trees and lights and the whole celebration all around.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:15 am | Report abuse |
  26. Micah

    I really get tired of the racist label for Jewish people. Yes, there are older Jewish people who can make racist statements, but let's get real here people. Who stood on the front lines with MLK Jr. when no other white people would? White Jews. Who taught in African American colleges when many whites refused? White Jews. I am a Jew of an ethnically diverse background. Jewish people in their 20s and 30s are redefining the labels and stereotypes and to label Jews collectively as being racist is in itself an anti-semitic statement.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:27 am | Report abuse |
    • cythara

      Then maybe Jews should stop being racist to begin with. Using denigrating terms like Gentiles (actually a Latin term) or Goyim and Schicksa (sp?) for non-Jews goes way back. The most racist people I know are Jews.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Micah

        Gentile is a term used in the Christian New Testament of the Bible that Christians actually used to define themselves separate from the rest of the Jews. Gentile is a term used in the Christian Bible to refer to non-Jew. Christians have their own vernacular to refer to non-Christians as non-believers. Every religion has a term to refer to those who are not a part of the religion. I don't know anyone who uses the term goyim without using it in the context of joke. At some point people need to stop being so sensitive.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Yeah, like Christians use the term "non-believers" to ANYBODY who has never even heard of Jesus.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      I agree!

      December 29, 2011 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
  27. Chad

    In case you don't want to look at the link: In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Now, I'm just letting you know this, I'm not involved in this discussion.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
  28. Sema

    BTW why do so many Jewish men wear ugly hat that looks like pancake?! And those orthodox who wear funny hats and women wear skirts and long sleeve... LOL what kind of silly religion is that!!!

    December 29, 2011 at 12:19 am | Report abuse |
  29. Saya

    I am Jew and all Jews are whites... Please don't listen to American news sites, they are written by non-Jews who don't know anything about us but spreading false news.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Susan

      Let me introduce you to a guy named Dave. I think you'd get along.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Micah

      Are you on crack or just pretending to be Jewish? I have traveled to Israel and Jewish communities around the world. If all Jews are white, then clearly you are not a Jew.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Rhonda

        Pure Jews are BROWN! As was Jesus!

        December 29, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Saya

      Middle Easterners are considered whites too !!! Jews are only people with white or slight tan skin with any eye color. NO Asian looking, blacks & non-Whites are true Jews. Period.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:38 am | Report abuse |
      • Rhonda

        Arabs are BROWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        December 29, 2011 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Rhonda

        You are all in denial. Go LOOK IN A MIRROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        December 29, 2011 at 12:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Rhonda – Actually, Arabs are considered white. Secondly, when I look in the mirror I see a white Jew, not a brown Jew, as you claim are the only ones in existance. Jews come in all colors. Get over it.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Rhonda

        I am quite sure that if your parents or grandparents intermarried with whites, that you will be considered "white", as most Jews are nowadays. BUT! Originally, Jews were not white! Only when they began intermarrying with Europeans did they begin to become "white". Jesus was a Jew, but even He was brown!

        December 29, 2011 at 1:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Rhonda, learn history, or, if you're lazy (which I'm guessing you are), read some of the other posts.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
      • Rhonda

        Pure Arabs ARE BROWN!!! I worked once with a man from Pakistan. He was SSSSSooooooooo Brown!! But he continually continued to try to convince me that he was "white". NO WAY was he white, he was BROWN!!!!! He was the color that I would like to be in the summer. And I am as white as they come. Freckles, can't get brown for anything, just burn red!

        December 29, 2011 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Pakistanis aren't Arab.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Rhonda

        And, Sarah, I won't stoop down to your level..

        December 29, 2011 at 1:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Yup, nothing like making assumptions on an entire group of people from one person. Educate yourself, Rhonda. You sound like an idiot. Nobody cares about your skin, Rhonda, except for you.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Rhonda, you're a racist. You need a ladder to climb out of that hole.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:16 am | Report abuse |
  30. rafael

    One thing is for sure. Ignorance, prejudice, and hatred cut across our populace.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
  31. ARMY

    JUDAISM/JEWISH:
    Judaism is not a race or ethnicity. It is a religion only.
    Yet, Ashkenazi Jews (the European white Jews) behave like they're a "race." Hence, the reason for anti-semitism worldwide.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Chad

      Jews are the reason for anti-semitism? Am I the only one that doesn't understand this guy's/girl's posts?

      December 29, 2011 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        Nope. According to Judaism, Jews are the 'divinely chosen' people while Gentiles are everyone else. Talk about arrogance especially when Jews tend to congregate amongst themselves who are mostly white (and not black).....

        December 29, 2011 at 12:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Chad

      Not an ethnicity, yet you mention an ethnicity (Ashkenazi Jew) in your post?

      December 29, 2011 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        Nope. Ashkenazi Jews implies a mix of European whites. Sephardic Jews implies a mix of Africans.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
      • Chad

        ARMY- please see Noah's response to your other post.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        Chad–I'm Sephardic and I'm giving people (the laymen) the big picture. Ashkenazis in general are distinct from Sephardics and have unique genetic abnormalities/diseases commonly from in-breeding.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
  32. ARMY

    ASHKENAZI VS. SEPHARDIC JEWS:
    Ashkenazi Jews are European white.
    Sephardic Jews are African black.
    Ashkenazi Jews discriminate against Sephardic Jews, just like whites discriminate (or used to) against blacks.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Susan

      Actually, I used to babysit for a Sephardic family who was from South Africa and was white. Nice try, though!

      December 29, 2011 at 12:06 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        Nope. As a whole, Sephardic Jews tend to be Ethiopian looking or dark middle eastern Arabs, while Ashkenazis are typically European white.
        If you were a US trained physician, you would know this.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Chad

      Wow, ARMY, you're ignorant. Sephardic Jews also come from South Africa, which, despite being called "Africa," has white people in it. Tricky, I know.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        Sephardic Jews NOW have white people in it. But not centuries ago.....

        December 29, 2011 at 12:20 am | Report abuse |
      • Chad

        Haha, oh ARMY.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Micah

      Mizrahi Jews are more black and African. Sephardic Jews are mostly European and Middle Eastern.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Noah

      You're an idiot my friend. I'm a Jew myself. My father's father's family are Sephardic from Spain, and my father's mother's family are Ashkenazi. Sephardic doesn't mean black Africa, it means the western half of Europe and yes, Africa. The Ethopians are part of a different group completely ((They trace their roots to Solomon having a child with the Queen of Sheba)). Ashkenazim however, also called Kazar Jews, come from Eastern Europe, specifically Russia, Ukraine and Romania. There are white Sephardic Jews, I'm one of them.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:36 am | Report abuse |
      • ARMY

        Yes NOAH, I am an idiot and you are the authoritative expert. ..

        Please grow up...

        December 29, 2011 at 1:58 am | Report abuse |
  33. Amir

    Original Jews are from Africa, and still are. Ethiopia, Nigeria, Uganda and Ghana Jews are original hebrews!

    December 29, 2011 at 12:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Noah

      Incorrect friend. The Ethopian and Sub-Saharan African Jews, trace their history back to King Solomon of Judea's interactions with the Queen of Sheba. The Hebrew Empire was already very much active and alive when Judea began having relations with Sub-Saharan Africa.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:38 am | Report abuse |
  34. Noah

    Oh, nevermind then. Thanks, Syyue!

    December 28, 2011 at 11:58 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Hattie

    The original Jews are from Africa. Read your accurate history people. Those who claim to be from a pure culture of many generations are not telling the truth. Real Jews know that fact.

    December 28, 2011 at 11:48 pm | Report abuse |
  36. JezzyMom

    LOL it's funny when some people and all Jews out there always tell people "Anti-Semitic" when they are the most racist ethnic group, religion & race in this world !

    December 28, 2011 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      Site your source, please. Oh, it's your mind? Okay, then....

      December 28, 2011 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Hattie

    These posts are concerning. What "religion" would actually say that marrying "outside" of the group is not permitted. What higher being or power has made a lowly human capable of claiming such. Who would write or dictate a manuscript to say so? Oh, yeah, a human who is so fearful of others who may just be as good or better than them. Come on people, Judaism as it is commercialized now is not the original religion. It is not a European based one and it did not originate on battled land with people sitting in the middle of the desert and stark white. Stop hatred, racism, bigotry and fear NOW.

    December 28, 2011 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Karah

      Don't attempt to judge an entire group of people based off comments on an Internet message board. You're just like the bigots, Hattie.

      December 28, 2011 at 11:51 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Steve / Montreal, Canada

    Those who convert to Judaism are out for the money $$ because Jews help and suppose to help Jews only.... bad bad religion and teaching

    December 28, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Revolution

      You lie!

      December 29, 2011 at 12:17 am | Report abuse |
  39. Leyla

    Orthodox Jews and extremists Muslims = SAME !

    December 28, 2011 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Yoav

    I agree with Ophir, Jews are NOT a race. Coming from Israel thats pretty obvious and anyone who has been to and traveled around Israel will find that to be true as well. No such thing as a "jewish" people. Only a Jewish religion. In America most Jews are white because they are descendants of immigrants from Europe. In Israel, most are from Arab world and Asia.

    December 28, 2011 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Karah

      I agree with you. "Jew" is not a race.

      December 28, 2011 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pete

      Jews ARE a race. Why else would they bear many of the same distinguishing features in the face that are easily recognizable to other Jews? Many Jews bear a certain look that has been passed down through the generations. This cannot be denied. People of other races can claim to be Jewish if they so choose, but they are still gentiles who have merely converted to Judaism

      December 29, 2011 at 12:30 am | Report abuse |
      • Karah

        This is an extremely close-minded statement, akin to those who say all Jews have big noses. My cousins are naturally blonde and Jewish. Does that put a monkey wrench in your system?

        December 29, 2011 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
  41. A CNN fan From Toronto, Canada

    Yes, it is true that 100% of the Jews I know in both Canada and the U.S. are white Caucasian. Some have blond hair and blue eyes and I cannot for the life of me tell the difference between that Jewish type and say an Irish Catholic. At the same time, I know a Filipino who practices Judaism solely because she is interested in Judaism and enjoys its teachings, and not because she is related to anyone practicing the faith. Come on people, we all know this is a religion that is not restricted to a stereotypical Caucasian. It's just like I know Chinese Mormons and their blond hair blue eye counterparts residing in Salt Lake City, Utah. LOL. The other day, I ran into a couple of Filipino Mormon missionaries. Steve Jobs was a Buddhist and we all know that Buddhists are all supposed to be Asian, right?

    December 28, 2011 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      I agree with you 100%! Genetics doesn't determine race. There is no "race gene." There are only differences in hair texture, eye color, skin pigmentation, etc., that human psychology then labels as "race." One day, hopefully we can cut out the labels altogether and render this whole feed moot. Let people practice the religion they want to practice...leave "race" and other's bigotry out of it!

      December 28, 2011 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Jenna

    So many people who call themselves "Jews" are racist.
    The religion is racist, the ethnic groups are racist, and there is always proof of this all over the world.
    What's so ironic is that they will leap like rabid skunks at anyone who might make an "anti-semitic" statement when they are more racist than many other peoples.
    There are no Jews. All we have are a bunch of people running around calling themselves that and being racist to boot.

    December 28, 2011 at 11:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      If you read this thread and that is all you have to say and you make no comment of the sick anti-semistic posts here you are probably an anti-semite yourself. Yes, some jews are racist and some Christians are, too. Some of every religion are racist. The majority of negative posts here are by non-jews spouting off disgusting anti-semitic posts. You are joking or lying or not reading much if you haven't seen that. It happens each and every time there is an story about anything remotely related to judiasm. It is so old that it isn't even shocking to me anymore and is quite the bore, actually. zzzzzzz Ca

      December 28, 2011 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Tell me, Beth, why I need to address anyone's comments? I was commenting on the article.
        I'm not anti-semitic. I am a human being and you are one as well. I think you might be clinging a little too closely to your perceived "group-identtty" which, if your "group" is an ethnic group, then any projection of that identlty into outside "ethnic" groups is almost guaranteed to be racist because it is a projection of the ethnicity and not of our common humanity.
        It's all right there in the article. Rabbis point to the Torah as justification for being racist. Judaism is a racist religion and you have Rabbis proving it to you right there! And to say no one is allowed to marry a "Jew" – you don't see that as racist? You guys are bald-faced in your racist, bigoted, supremacist actions and expect us to just ignore that? W-T-F??
        I'm not racist. You sure seem racist, though.
        Thanks Beth. Go see a psychiatrist. A Jewish one if that will help get you there sooner...

        December 29, 2011 at 1:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        You're not antisemetic but you make broad, and largely unfounded derogatory accusations against Jews and Judaism. Either you are not being honest and you do in fact have prejudices against people on account of their ethno-religious background or you are just ignorant – willfully or otherwise.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:17 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        I don't have prejudices. I take individuals as individuals. When people belonging to a racist group do and say racist things, I just want to point that out. Do you have a problem with that? It sure looks like you do from here.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        "I don't have prejudices. I take individuals as individuals. When people belonging to a racist group do and say racist things, I just want to point that out."

        Apparently you don't take individuals as individuals since you continually use "Jews" in broad, generalized terms accusing "Jews" without distinction, of various bad things.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:25 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Ethiopia, if you will simply read what I have written more closely, you will see that you are mistaken.
        I am not painting all "Jews" with a broad brush, I'm just pointing out the tendencies of people who find themselves in a group that contains so many resources for racism and how group-identlty ties in with all that...
        Is it too much to ask for you to consider my words more closely?
        Or would you like to see me when I'm angry?

        December 29, 2011 at 1:38 am | Report abuse |
      • Joh

        I have never read such ridiculous things from someone who is claiming to be intelligent than what I read in Jenna's initial post to Beth. I'm shocked that people can trick themselves into thinking they're a decent human when they have these insidious things to say. Jenna, please meet a Jewish person so you can open your eyes.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      So what's wrong with being racist? Every race is guilty of it to some degree. It is merely human nature for "Humans" to be this way and all of your pathetic self righteous whining will never change any of it. I'll bet YOU'RE a racist yourself

      December 28, 2011 at 11:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        Dave is a troll. Don't humor him or he'll just continue....

        December 28, 2011 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Troll? Really? Is that like a monster or goblin of some type? lol. Thanks for spreading the word Syue!!

        December 29, 2011 at 12:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Chad

        Troll is an internet term.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
      • Chad

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

        December 29, 2011 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Dave, I am not a racist.
        If you think there's more than one race then you are misinformed and quite likely to be a racist yourself.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      Jenna, you are so racist you disgust me, and the fact you're blind to it is just sad because then you can't learn.

      December 29, 2011 at 1:22 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Sarah, if you could point out where I am racist, I sure would appreciate it because i don't want to be racist in any way.

        December 29, 2011 at 1:24 am | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Ethiopia, Dave, and Beth already did. Ethiopia did at a third grade reading level for you, and you still don't get it. Let's try again...saying things that generalize about all one group is making the assumption that everyone in that group acts that way. Saying mean things about a group, is saying mean things about everyone in that group. I'm not sure what's left to explain...

        December 29, 2011 at 1:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Jenna

        Alright Sarah, since you seem unwilling or unable to read clearly, I am not painting large groups with a broad brush beyond the fact that they identify with some particular group. That's it.
        Here, you little piece of idiot trash, I will explain in big words for you:
        I AM NOT LABELING EVERYONE WITHIN A GROUP THE WAY YOU SAY I AM. GO FCK YOURSELF.

        December 29, 2011 at 2:42 am | Report abuse |
      • Joh

        Oh wait, now she's resorting to profanity. I take back the part when I said she was seemingly intelligent.

        December 29, 2011 at 3:46 am | Report abuse |
  43. Dave

    Jews will always be looked upon as White people, especially the successful ones. Do not let this misleading thread fool you.

    December 28, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Noah

      Tell that to people who have constantly derided me for my "race" of "Jewish." Dave, you live in a little bubble.

      December 28, 2011 at 11:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Noah

        The little bubble that you live in is obviously a very small minority. Why else do you think that the people have constantly derided you and have never taken you seriously? Hmmm?

        December 28, 2011 at 11:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Noah

        When did I mention anything about being taken seriously? Also, you in another post mention being derided, but now seem to have changed your tune. Odd.... Anyway, why does anyone have to be considered a "race?" One day people like you, Dave, will love people because they are humans, not because they are Jews and white.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • James

        I don't want to be "that guy," but, Dave, you and Hitler would be good b u t t buddies....both of you hate based on appearance/religion alone! Grow up, dude.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        There is more than one Dave making comments here, I never mentioned anything about "deriding" before. Besides, Jews ARE a race, and they have a very distinctive look that other Jews can easily recognize.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        "Jew" is a religion and ethinicty – both of which you can choose.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Noah

        So, Dave, Jews are a race, but are also considered white? Make up your mind already!

        December 28, 2011 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Yes, Jews are a race who are White. It's just figures that something this easy would confuse you. Try to keep up with the conversation

        December 28, 2011 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        @ Noah – Don't worry about Dave. He's a troll (see below).

        December 28, 2011 at 11:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Noah

        With that logic, then Christians are also a race who happen to be white, but not of the white race....okie dokie

        December 28, 2011 at 11:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Noah

        Ignore my last post then. Thanks, Syue!

        December 28, 2011 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Syue, you are quite a loser who just can't win an arguement OR tear herself away from this discussion. Perhaps you should just move on

        December 29, 2011 at 12:00 am | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Noah, who ever said anything about Christians? Does someone have to hold your hand through this discussion?

        December 29, 2011 at 12:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        Dave, looks like someone finally got your goat instead of you trying to get everyone else's.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Give it up Syue, I've gotten your goat from the very beginning, which is why you keep coming back

        December 29, 2011 at 12:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        Huh? When have you....oh wait, troll. Bye, Dave!

        December 29, 2011 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Awww, how sweet, there's both a Syue and a Susan. Is there supposed to be a difference between the two? I doubt it.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        So, there's more than one Dave, but you assume "Syue" and "Susan" are the same people? You just can't deal with that fact that more than one person thinks you're a twit. Read the comments to your other posts, Dave. We're not the only ones.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      But James, you ARE that guy. Who else would be stupid enough to drag Hitler into the conversation? You just couldn't resist, could you? Sounds like you're the tard who needs to grow up

      December 28, 2011 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        How ignorant to you have to be to still use the word "retard?" Dear God, you don't call your neighbors the N word do you, Dave?!

        December 28, 2011 at 11:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Because anyone who brings up Hitlers name IS a "Tard", much the way you are. And who has black neighbors?

        December 28, 2011 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        Oooohhhhhh, thanks for that last comment about the neighbors....now I see you're actually just a troll. Wow, am I mad I wasted so much time reading all your comments. Congrats, you got me!

        December 28, 2011 at 11:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Anytime sweetheart

        December 28, 2011 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      Dave = troll, just FYI to all

      December 28, 2011 at 11:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Really? How touching Syue. I'm sure that's better than whatever you are

        December 28, 2011 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        Dave, you admitted you're a troll when I said I figured out you're a troll and you got me and you said anytime. So, I'm not sure why you feel offended.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Seems like you're the one who is offended. You keep coming back, don't you?

        December 29, 2011 at 12:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        It's because I love you! Annndddd, face it, if I stopped talking, then you'd say "I got you!" and if I keep talking then you say "I got you!" So, I'm just going to call it a day. Peace out....or in your case, hatred out! Boy, I'm clever 😉

        December 29, 2011 at 12:09 am | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Nah, you're still an idiot

        December 29, 2011 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Revolution

      Nope. Other whites do not consider them white. They think of them as middle eastern and not truly white.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:19 am | Report abuse |
  44. mr.jew

    WOT! SCHREIBERTOOH? THAT'S NOT VERY KOSHER!

    December 28, 2011 at 11:02 pm | Report abuse |
  45. APerson

    Actually...most jews are white. But so are Arabs. We share a common ancestor. If you have ever seen arab Television, they are majority white.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amir

      Actually they are not and neither are Arabs....

      December 29, 2011 at 12:06 am | Report abuse |
  46. Ophir

    Majority of Jews in Israel are not white. Most are from arab countries like Iraq, Yemen and Morocco. Jews in Israel also came from sub-saharan Africa (Ethiopia, Nigeria) and south Asia (India). Jews are not a race, but a religion consisting of people from EVERY race. There is no jewish race. It doesnt exist. White jews from europe are not the same race as dark skinned Jews from Yemen.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      Actually, Arabs are considered white. Where on the census is there an "arab" box?

      December 28, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larry

        The Census does not determine genetics.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Abdul

        Yes, obviously thats what they are considered. But ask Arabs what they consider themselves. I guarantee you the answer will not be "white." How do I know? I am an Arab!

        December 28, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        @ Larry – genetics doesn't determine race. There is no "race gene." There are only differences in hair texture, eye color, skin pigmentation, etc., that human psychology then labels as "race."

        December 28, 2011 at 11:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        Yes!

        December 28, 2011 at 11:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      that's true, Syue.

      December 28, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Not true. Most of the Jews in Israel are white, plain and simple. I don't know where you obtain your faulty information from, but you are way off base. Next thing you'll be saying is that the leaders of Israel were never White either

      December 28, 2011 at 11:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Semites, Jews and Arabs, are "white", I think the confusion arises from conflating "white" with European.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Andrew

        I've lived in Israel. There are definitely just as many Jews from non-European backgrounds as there are "white" Jews. Jews from Europe are called Eskanazi. Jews from Africa are Safardic. Both are equally "Jewish". Moron.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        Dave = troll....see another post admitting this....don't give into the troll

        December 28, 2011 at 11:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • someone

        I am from Israel and I can tell you that what your saying is not true. Dave I read all your posts and i dont know what your problem is....

        December 29, 2011 at 12:36 am | Report abuse |
      • someone

        Ethnic Makeup of Jewish Population of Israel
        TOTAL 5,818,000 100%
        Mizrahi Jews and Sephardic Jews 2,921,000 50.2%
        Morocco 800,000 15.2%
        Iraq 404,000 7.7%
        Yemen 295,000 4.9%
        Iran 236,000 4.0%
        Algeria/Tunisia 224,000 3.8%
        Other Asia 150,000 2.5%
        Turkey 147,000 2.5%
        Libya 136,000 2.3%
        Egypt 112,000 1.9%
        Bulgaria/Greece 97,000 1.9%
        Other Asia 200,000 1.7%
        India/Pakistan 76,000 1.3%
        Latin America 25,000 0.04%
        Other Africa (Not South Africa) 3,000 0.05%
        Beta Israel (Ethiopia) 130,000 2.2%
        Ashkenazi Jews 2,767,000 47.5%
        Russia 1,018,000 20.9%
        Poland 400,000 8.3%
        Romania 351,000 7.6%
        Other Europe 168,000 3.7%
        North America (Including 4,000 African American Black Hebrews) 165,000 2.8%
        Germany/Austria 160,000 2.7%
        Latin America 82,000 1.4%
        Hungary 63,000 1.3%
        Czechoslovakia 60,000 1.2%
        South Africa 20,000 0.4%

        December 29, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
      • someone

        And no, not all leaders of Israel were considered Ashkenazi Jews. Did you know the Israel even had a woman as a prime minister.... i advise to learn some history about Israel before posting complete crap.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
  47. COUNTRYCOOK

    Bet you haven't heard this one...I am from Native American decent (Cherokee) and we have found out that we are from Jewish heritage from Joseph and his Egyptian wife's first born son Manasseh. DNA test are proving this.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Howardmgm3

      Uh, where did you get DNA from Joseph and his wife from?

      December 28, 2011 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
  48. don

    I am not tolerant to intolerance.
    Believe what you want and as much as I despise what he created Marx said it best:
    "religion is the opiate of the masses"

    December 28, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Honesty

    There is no diversity in religion. They're all brainwashed deluded fools. If you believe in a space ghost, you should have your head examined.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethiopia

      Jews aren't entirely a religious grouping so your statement doesn't fully apply. But otherwise - yes, ur right.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ophir

        Yes, Jews ARE entirely a religious grouping. You cannot sit there and tell me Jews from Poland are the same race as Jews from Yemen. Or that Jews from India are of the same race as Jews from Spain. Its absurd. Have you been to Israel? There are people from all over the world that live there all of different races. Black, White, South Asian, East Asian etc. The unifying commonality is devotion to Judaism and observence of teaching from the Torah.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        How can you be an Israeli and think such a thing? You know full well how secular Israel is and how the founders of the State were a bunch of godless athiests and agnostics - yet still Jews. Jews are not a race, but neither are they a purely religious group. Most Jews are of middle eastern descent and the word "Jew" (Yehudi) is not a description of a belief or action (e.g. Muslim = submission to God) but of a territory (Judea). So there are Jewish athiests whereas there are no Muslim athiests. The Jews of Africa, Europe, the Maghreb, India, may have all believed in the God of Israel or practiced the Jewish religion to varying degrees - but the ultimate commonality, and the basis of the modern Israeli State, is that it is the Jews' cultural and ethnic links and that it is their unending attachment to their ancient homeland that defines Jewish peoplehood.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        Judiasm is both an ethnicity and a religion.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        Beth is right. "Jewish" is a religion and ethnicity – both of which you can choose.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:14 pm | Report abuse |
  50. believe

    If you believe in Jesus Christ, you can go to heaven.
    Too bad these kids were misguided.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      every orthodox jew believes in the coming of the messiah and ultimate redemption of humankind. To fret over whether his coming is the 2nd coming or the first, is such a "1000-AD" issue – hardly worth burning someone at the stake, stealing his children from him / her, or otherwise demeaning a person – right?

      December 28, 2011 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      Does a child rapist who belives in Jesus go to Heaven? Odd standards he has...

      December 28, 2011 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • GarPundit

        Short answer: Yes. It's not about behavior, but strictly about belief. That's one of the reasons I'm no longer a Christian.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greg

      According to Jesus himself, all you need for salvation are "Moses and the prophets".

      At the end of the Parable of Dives and Lazarus in the Book of Luke.

      27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

      29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

      December 28, 2011 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Howard s

    Now if we could just join a temple or go to services without it costing us a ton of money and a building fund paymernt or have to show our financial statement ,we might have more jews in temple....maybe they should do what catholics do which is pass the plate when we go to temple and give what we can.........

    December 28, 2011 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • md2205

      It does not cost anything to join a Chabad House for prayers or just for socializing. There are Chabad Houses in many areas. Please look one up on Chabad.org.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • lindy

      that is an excellent idea –and different ideas, as well as support for those ideas, are just what diversity can contribute. It is ridiculous to honor and seek diversity in society as a whole, but try to keep the Jewish community closed and monolithic.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
  52. md2205

    Torah defines Judaism in every particular. Torah is the lifestyle guidelines that were given to the Jews by G-d. G-d told the Jews that it is the mother who determines the religion of the child. If the mother is Jewish, the child is Jewish. It is the man who determines what status – Cohen, Levi or Israel. A non-Jew may become Jewish through a conversion process detailed in the Torah after determination is made that the person sincerely wishes to be Jewish. If part of that process is not done, the conversion is not valid according to the Torah guidelines. It is very important that people know their correct status. If a person is Jewish according to the Torah, he should be aware of it, and if not, he should realize and appreciate that he is not Jewish. If they "feel" they are Jewish, or want to be Jewish, they should take it up with an Orthodox rabbi, who can guide them properly. The Torah does not want to fool people who are not Jewish into thinking they are Jewish. G-d gave different commandments to Jews and non-Jews according to His expectation of what He wants them to do in the world. All people have Seven Basic Laws to follow: To believe in one united G-d, not to blaspheme Him, not to steal (and kidnap), not to murder, not to do adultery, not to eat the limb of a living animal (animal cruelty) and to set up courts of justice that are effective. Jews have 606 more commandments to do. The reason is due to the nature of the closeness of the relationship between G-d and the Jews. G-d chose the Jewish people to create a society that would focus on improving the world to the point where the Messiah would come. This would make the world return to the way G-d created it before Adam and Eve made their mistake. Their mistake was to think they knew better than G-d. G-d told them to stay away from the fruit of the tree that would make them internalize evil. If they had pushed away their desire to do what G-d didn't want, they would have merited to have the days of the Messiah come immediately, and this is what G-d wanted of them. Their rationale was that if they would eat from that fruit, it would make evil part of themselves, and every action they would do after that would be the same: pushing away the evil, time and time again, which would be a greater accomplishment than before because the evil they would be pushing away would be from inside themselves. The Jewish people were chosen to bring the world back to that original state. We are almost there, as it is hard to recall when the days were that people all over the world were cannibals, would murder each other, steal, etc. and do so without a government to stop them. The Jews did teach the world all the laws of civilization and we have reached this point. The Jewish people must remain as their own separate group and not intermarry so as not to lose the nature of their mission. The Lubavitcher Rebbe said the Messiah is ready to come and it is only on our part to increase in acts of goodness and kindness that will bring him sooner. Now I am sure I will hear people say that there are Jews in Israel making riots and acting violently and how can they be the chosen people to show the world how to improve their behavior. I agree with that question. The only answer I have is that sometimes you find in a group that there are people who do not live up to their professed ideals and it is a shame as it casts a bad light on the vast majority, who are very fine people.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Leave it to Chabad to give the correct message 🙂

      December 28, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • sean green

      You're confusing Torah and Talmud a little there.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rachel Greeberg

      EXTREMELY well put and correct on every count. Kol Hakavod!

      December 28, 2011 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • A Dozen Eggs

      Rubbish!

      December 28, 2011 at 11:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Blessed Geek

      No paragraphs – very difficult to read. I'm giving up reading.

      December 28, 2011 at 11:51 pm | Report abuse |
  53. sad

    All these comments make me sad. Sad to see what society can turn into. Jews follow a teaching- Love your fellow as yourself. So how can all these claims be true? Also, i believe many of you are speaking from either a handed down mantra in the family that Jews are to be hated or a personal experience with one jew. JEWS is a very general thing to say, and Torah-learning and Mitzvot-keeping Jews are kind, and give charity etc. etc. The law against intermarriage is because it is in the Torah and thats what is followed by torah-abiding Jews. Please keep this in mind before you comment such hate-filled posts.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:12 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Matthew L

    Ways to know if a person is Jew: 1) Look at their nose. 2) Look at the way they dress. 3) Listen if they talk about money and bu$$ine$$. 4) Show off. 5) Complain about prices. 6) Reject/Hate non-Jews. 7) Never mention anything about Christmas, Easter Christ or Christianity.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Craig

      CNN, Are you serious? Do you not take responsibility for what goes on your website?

      December 28, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Matthew L

        Why would they when they know I'm telling the truth? I'm being honest and we have freedom of speech!

        December 28, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        CNN does not care one iota about bigotted comments. I have seen people say horrendous things about Jews, Christians, blacks, Hispanics, you name it. The avatars can be even worse! It, sadly, speaks volumes about this fractured country.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Ha!

      December 28, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • RangerDOS

      Freedom of speech doesn't apply to slander or racial provocative statements – you're a bigot, and honestly, you probably haven't met any Jewish people in you pathetic little life Matthew L.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      What a jerk. I'm sure you don't do any business – you're unemployed and on welfare right? And I'm sure you pay retail for everything. No shopping on Amazon.com right? I hope you go to Israel one day and it adjusts your thinking. I also would encourage you to visit an orthodox jewish community and tell me what % of Jews are living in mansions and talking about business all day..... you'll find it to be miniscule. Some Jews are smart – but so are non-Jews. Last I checked, my doctor (who makes much more than I do) is Chinese. The guy I work for (who makes more than I do) is Indian. Time to Wake up.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • katsny

      You are a pathetic racist idiot. Go to school..better yet...drop dead. We need less hatred in this world

      December 28, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
  55. bannister

    This is genocide.

    December 28, 2011 at 10:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      its not genocide, its just religious / cultural culling. The Jews have always been a small %. Not everyone is cut out for a life of being derided and living by antiquated customs / laws. Intermarrying is their prerogative and the ones that stay true to their culture – are the ones that provide the next generation of Jews. Its always been that way and always will. Its not cultural "genocide" .

      December 28, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Jo An

    Diversity is good for all religions...

    December 28, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      agreed

      December 28, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Shanika

    LOL those few brainwashed people that succsesfully convert to Judaism are usually poor people that want to be rich and get free trip to Israel.... Jews help their own people and make them wealthy too. Otherwise who would ever convert to a cr^p religion

    December 28, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • GAB

      TO BE JEWISH IS NOT A RELIGION ITS A WAY OF LIFE.... LEARN-- THATS WHY JEWS HELP JEWS- I would buy from a jew first before anyone else, only to keep it with in, If america would do the same- everything would say made in america not china

      December 28, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        "It's not a religion, IT'S A WAY OF LIFE." Haha, are you serious?

        December 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Craig

      You are a moron.

      CNN, Are you out there? Do you take responsibility for what goes on your website?

      December 28, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      My mom converted to Judaism 30 years ago.....she has yet to be to Israel.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • GarPundit

      Shanika - You've got it backwards. I was indoctrinated in the Christian dogma that what you believe is more important than how you behave. Accepting Jesus as your personal savior was a "Get Out of H*ll Free" card, because despite being made by an infallible all-knowing all-powerful Creator, we were so defective that we were doomed to Eternal Torment. Our omnipotent, omniscient Creator messed up so badly that He had to come up with a "cheat code" to keep everyone from ending up in God's infinite torture chamber.

      I am now a Jew because the Rabbi said that I could bring my doubts with me. As long as I believed in honesty and charity and "Tikkun Olam" (making the world a better place for ALL), I would be welcomed into "the tribe".

      Sure, a lot of Jews don't believe that. The Orthodox branch does not consider me to be a "real Jew". But that's their problem, not mine. I am a respected, participating, fully accepted member of the Reform Jewish community, and am proud of the good we do for all - not just other Jews.

      December 28, 2011 at 11:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Great comment! Umm....will you marry me? lol

        December 29, 2011 at 12:48 am | Report abuse |
    • BR

      You're kidding, right? do you know even ONE person who has converted? Ignorant.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
  58. Flagrant12

    Hey Ethiopia, if jews are I indistinguishable from Palestinians based on DNA and other traits and similarities it's quite interesting because I know for a fact that gypsies from Europe are considered migrating from Palestina and around it, and to be honest with you they really look like Palestinians people, no difference whatsoever. Maybe they are all brothers and sisters, and another curiosity is that gypsies will not mix either by tradition likewise Jewish people which makes me believe that they are indeed kindread. Good luck to them, what else can I say....

    December 28, 2011 at 9:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethiopia

      Gypsies have their origins in India. Gypsies is a corruption of "Egyptian" as it was thought that these people came to Europe from Egypt, or the Middle East more generally (the Roma people did spend some time in the Middle East). But they are quite distinct from Jews and Palestinians.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • md2205

      DNA from Jews shows that they are less related to the Arabs (remember that "Palestinians" are Arabs) than to the Kurds. They have a lot of genes in common with the Kurds. This makes sense as in the Torah (Bible) it says that Abraham, the first Jew, came from Iraq, from a city near where Kurds have lived. He married his son to a girl from his relatives, and his grandson married from his relatives as well. Their descendants continued the tradition of marrying from their relatives, and so the line is pretty strong from the Kurds.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Palestinians are Arab by culture and language and some ancestry. Most Palestinians are a mix between the Jews of antiquity and Arabs who came into Palestine following the Islamic conquest.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:24 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Laurence A

    I was visiting Israel last summer and wore a Christian cross. HOLY COW all of the reaction I got by those zionist Jews! They all looked down on me, and many adults told me to get the h^ll out of their land, and some kids told me cr^p stuff about Jesus Christ :/ Perhaps we should start treating them terrible in America too !!! I'm not joking... visit Israel and you'll see their reaction if you show that you're Christian

    December 28, 2011 at 9:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan

      I've also been to Israel (I'm Christian, too) and had no problems whatsoever.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • AK

        Same here. What's up with this guy?

        December 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        I don't know, but it's a shame, I had a wonderful experience!

        December 28, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • AK

        All we had was one day, on a bus with no bathroom 😦

        But..Bethlehem to Jerusalem, all the Christian shrines and the Wailing Wall. The bus driver careening off madly because this was the day in 1995 Bethlehem was turned over to the Palestinians and he wanted out before the celebratory into-the-air shooting began. Holding my 3YO daughter by the hands while she used her first in-ground 'bombsight' Euro-toilet at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher ('don't let me fall in, Daddy..'). Walking the Via Dolorosa.

        Loving every minute of it all. Memories, yes.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        Sounds like a wonderful time! I found myself brought to tears several times throughout my journey by the majesty of it all.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Larry the only people in Israel who would do that are harredim in Mea Sharim (Jerusalem) who by the way also stone Jewish cars traveling on the Sabbath. If those are the ones who offended you, you should discount them – they're not representative of the nation and are actually very much reviled by most. In fact they're locked in a struggle with other orthodox groups in Israel (namely the religious zionists) – in terms of outlook on everything from modern technology to using TV / internet, and higher education. Almost all Jews in Israel favor Christians tremendously. I've seen Jews in the West Bank inviting Christians over to stay with them on the sabbath.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fiche Kahraba

      I know You are not joking, They hate and insult Jesus, Not only in Israel, They insult Him in the media, Internet, and everywhere they feel protected. In America Jews don't practice Judaism, They practice, Hypocrisy.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        And also witchcraft and they did 9/11 and killed off the dinosaurs.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
  60. JJStuart1

    We are all spirits, the only thing that is different is our bodily clothing. We must stop thinking "I am that" and start thinking "We are this." True, intermarriage threatens to "dilute" more refined versions of Judaism. So long as there are beings whom practice the religion, Judaism will survive, but there will always be debate about how to practice and there will always be orthodox Jews to show us. A friend of mine is a well known Holocaust survivor. About being kosher he says G-d cares more about what comes out of your mouth than what goes into it. I fervently pray for the day when all Jews, orthodox and reform can sit down together as one. This is the greatest threat to our existence, not accepting those whom wish to belong.

    December 28, 2011 at 9:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      they can sit down today 🙂 They just can't intermarry, and they won't ever, because the laws that the orthodox Jews abide by are immutable and have been there for thousands of years. It doesn't mean they can't sit down and sing kumbaya and smoke your weed (although the orthodox are highly unlikely to do that either)

      December 28, 2011 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      Thankfully Orthodox Judaism doesn't have the right to decide who is considered Jewish and who isn't by non-Orthodox Jews. Orthodox Judiasm is from the 1800s and doesn't have the moral athority to make decisions for all jews. Orthodox Judaism is something new, not something with thousands of years of existing as you seem to think.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • izzi

        haha beth. tell me: you think moses was a reform jew?

        December 28, 2011 at 10:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        If Moses existed at all he was neither a reform or orthodox jew. Truth is, the Orthodox should not do a victory lap just yet. There are more than a few Orthodox Jews who are secretly secular - in the modern age you cannot keep people with intelligence and curiosity from researching the claims of the Bible. So the Orthodox will lose members. Then again, the reform and conservative Jews are marrying themselves out of existence. The only hope for Jewish civilization and culture in the long term is the State of Israel.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        Back then Jews were not Orthodox, in any case. Judaism has a history of changing and of encouraging people to question, debate and think critically. Orthodox Judaism is most certainly not the only current type of Judaism. Reform and Reconstruction Judaism are not marrying themselves out of existence. if Judaism is going to survive in the modern era in the west it is going to be reconstructionist and reform that will do the bulk of it precicely because the allow intermarriage. Intermarriage is happening whether some types of Judaism accept it or not.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Beth, I'm afraid I can't be as optimistic as you. The demographic evidence is overwhelming that Jews in the US are intermarrying themselves out of existence. This will only accelerate as the Jewish population declines. Acceptance of intermarried families may stem the tide but it will more likely be that being Jewish will become like being Irish-American. Something that someone has some ethnic ties to but doesn't really think about more than once a year or so. I doubt the staying power even of the Orthodox as I think modern science and education and Biblical criticism will chip away, as it already has, at the foundations of Orthodoxy.

        There is only one place where one can be wholly secular and be assured that one's children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren will remain Jews and that is in Israel.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        Ethiopia, I think you may be right but it isn't Jewish groups that allow intermarriage and accept these families that are causing a decline in Judaism. Intermarriage in which the family doesn't practice anything is a big cause, intermarriage to Christians where there children end up practicing Christianity is another big cause. I agree that there must be a chunk of people who do not follow Orthodox Judiasm because they just can't believe in it (I'm among those people–I was exposed heavily to Orthodox Judaism as a child and even at a very young age found things that caused me to not be able to believe what I was taught). I also come from a family that has been half non-practicing Jews and 1/2 Orthodox. The non-practicing side very much considers themsleves Jewish and is considered Jewish by others and the fact of them being almost totally non-practicing goes back at least to my Great Grandfather from Ukraine but probably to his parents and who knows from there. My German Jewish Greand Grandmother came from non-practicing German-Jewish immigrant parents. Many German Jews did not practice or were largely secular Jews. I don't know that it will be totally like being Irish-american. Unfortunately I think that anti-semitism is a motivator for people to identify as Jews. There is anti-semitism, thus Jews feel the need to stand up for Judaism and publically defend themselves. With less and less anti-semitism, being Jewish to non-practicing secular Jews is probably less important. Not that I want anti-semitism. I think it isgrowing once again, which is a shame.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        I'm certainly not advocating mistreating or shutting out intermarried couples from the Jewish American community. That seems entirely self-defeating. However, it is certainly fare to say that most intermarried couples raise their children as both Jew and (typically) Christian. Their children are, just by statistics, most likely to marry non-Jews, at some point the connection is lost, except for perhaps some memory that "oh my grandparents, or great-grandparents were Jewish". The number of Jews in the US has been on decline since the 1960s, in proportion to the rise in intermarriage. I'm not condemning anyone for intermarriage, but demographically speaking it means the end of the American Jewish community outside of the Orthodox and Hasidic. The existence of the State of Israel solves this problem of religion vs. assimilation in that in a Jewish majority country, Jews, even the most secular, are going to marry Jews and Jewish culture, albeit not religious belief, will be the primary influence on the children. Non-religious Jews outside Israel are more likely than not doomed from a demographic point of view.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        yes, I also think 99% of of what you are saying. But I think one solution to this is things like Reconstructionist Judiasm and Reform Judaism. Yes, in Israel, Jews do not have to think about whether they or their children are considered Jewish. Big difference.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:38 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Rabbi Shlomo

    I am Orthodox Jew. Judaism REJECT interracial marriage and is forbidden in our torah. Please do not listen to any other people who says it is ok. Those interracial marriage Jews are not real Jews and left our Judaism religion and its people. We do not consider them good Jews and left us.

    December 28, 2011 at 9:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jan

      I can tell you're not Jewish. Nice try, TROLL.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dave

        Jan – actually he's correct. Perhaps do research on true Judaism (which is "orthodox" meaning – the style passed down for thousands of years) – and you'll reach that same conclusion. Suggest chabad.org or aish.org

        December 28, 2011 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Now Dave, Chabad and Aish are fundamentalists and I would take some of their interpretations with a grain of salt.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        Orthodox Judiasm is not thousands of years old started in the 1800s. Hardly representative of 'true Judaism.'

        December 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        And by that I do not mean that Orthodox Judaism isn't Judaism. it most certainly is but it is only one type of Judaism. It doesn't own the othority on the religion any more than any other type of Judaism.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • AK

      Define 'interracial.'

      German Jews didn't like 'OstJuden' from, say, Poland either, til they discovered the equality of the gas chambers and shooting pits. Pale Ashkenazim have looked down on dark Sephardim.

      Is this kinda like the interracial thing about which you were musing?

      December 28, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fiche Kahraba

      Rabbi Shiomo... As it is Racism and fascists huh?

      December 28, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Leah T.

      C'mon, interracial marriage is allowed in Judaism – as long the parties are both Jewish (either by birth or conversion). It's marriage outside of the religion that is very highly discouraged. The girl's father wasn't allowed to do certain things and say certain prayers because he wasn't Jewish – not because he was Chinese. If he had converted he would have been able to be fully included. There are things in church that a non-Christian or non-Catholic can't do also.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Dave

    Orthodox Jews are the only true Jews today in the USA. Simply put – these are the ones that haven't intermarried. And to someone else's question about a product of intermarriage having a right to move to Israel – I would suggest that they don't. However the Arabs also intermarry – a lot. From the time the Turks invaded through the French conquest of Egypt... Arabs have been marrying across cultures. I.e., Yasar Arafat was Egyptian. And the Ottomans who ruled the ME moved Arabs from Iraq (which was overpopulated) into the holy land in order to support their army stationed there during WWI. So all around – intermarriage. As far as Jews go – only the orthodox don't intermarry (although they do in cases accept a convert) and they understand that the lineage of the Jewish people extends only through them. I'm not suggesting any group is right / wrong – just the facts here folks.

    December 28, 2011 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      Orthodox Judaism is relatively new as far as history is concerned. My Grandmother, born to two Jewish parents, was not considered Jewish enough by my Grandfather's Orthodox family and so they would not attend the wedding. We are very much a Jewish family, though. They missed out and they gavce a very bad impression to me and my family of what Orthodox Judaism was all about. My husband isn't jewish but my son is. You can think what you like but my Rabbi would agree with me. Luckily are temple accepts children like mine as 100% fully Jewish. There are many at our temple who are of mixed race and mixed religious background from their parents but the children themseles are 100% jewish. I like it there. Very diverse and accepting. There are actually more families where only one spouse is Jewish than families where both are, I think, at least among the children. i'd rather my son go to that temple than an Orthodox one any day because of the positiveness I see in the diveristy.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chaiah

      I suppose that is why, in the Bible, when Ruth (who was not of one of the tribes but had married into one) said to Naomi (whose son Ruth had married and that son had died) – after being told to return to her people three times by Naomi and three times telling Naomi that "your people will be my people and thy G-d my G-d" and was accepted into the tribe... Well, you know. She wasn't really a Jew?

      Just because Israel has certain laws regarding who is Jewish and who is not does not mean they are correct. One can most certainly be Jewish and not Israeli.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Correction by a Rabbi

    Being Jewish is not a race. Anyone of any race can become Jewish including African American, Arab etc. Being a Jew is acquiring a Jewish soul (which is a part of god). It can be acquired either by birth to a Jewish mother (by default) or through conversion. It is a complete misconception to say that if Jews does not marry a non Jew he/she is racist. That is incorrect. It has to do with soul compatibility. A Jew can marry anyone who shares the same soul (destiny, path in life) given to them by god. This is a commandment in the bible (a god given law). I.e. a Jew can marry anyone on this planet as long as they share the same destiny. They can have the same destiny by default through being born to a Jewish woman or through converting to Judaism and accepting the Jewish destiny.

    December 28, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christine

      Riight. Go tell that to an orthodox Rabbi and they will spit on your face

      December 28, 2011 at 9:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Craig

        Perhaps, but we don't have to be defined by our least tolerant, most radical or conservative brethren. Expanding on some of the definitions of Judaism in this thread, it is a race (well, maybe), a religion, and a heritage. As a religion, anyone is free to join it and thus add richness to the heritage and religion. Otherwise, we are doomed to extinction.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chaiah

        hmmm... really? I am a convert and one of the rabbis in our city, an orthodox rabbi, has been nothing but wonderful. I only use my hebrew name and all my friends, even gentile, call me by my hebrew name. So, when I happened to pull out my credit card to pay for something, he discovered my legal name. He just looked at me and said something that I will never forget... You see, I don't tell people I am a convert unless it happens to come up for some very particular reason. I don't like people knowing. So, when I realized that he had seen my name, my face must have revealed some sort of concern. Rabbi said to me "Never be ashamed. You chose us – and YOU chose to become a part of us. We are blessed to have you. Adoption is irrefutable and for any one of us to look at you as any less is not acceptable according to jewish law." I now do not flinch when I pull out my credit card. I know that anyone who has a derogatory thing to say or feels I am somehow less of a Jew than they is being disobedient and I should pity them. That orthodox rabbi made me realize that.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • jay

      I think you meant to say " density".

      December 28, 2011 at 9:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      Actually mr reform rabbi – you're 100% wrong. And the proof is that in Israel they keep quite accurate records in the Interior Ministry – to be labeled as Jewish in Israel – you need to show lineage. If you're an American Jew (if you claim to be such) – you'll have to show the records of grandparents who were married by an orthodox rabbi. Don't have that? Then you're stuck. There's no "I have a shared destiny with you, and I listen to the grateful dead" cr*p. You can still be a rabbi or layman at your American reform temple – nobody minds who goes there. But the only way you'll be recorded as Jewish in Israel – is if you can prove lineage of if you go through a rigorous conversion. And thank goodness they do that.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        Actually, to be considered Jewish in Israel one must have gone through the proper rituals: consecration, b'nai mitzvah, confirmation. No implication of "lineage."

        December 28, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Beth

        This is not true. Are you making things up, Dave?

        December 28, 2011 at 10:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      This is not true. Orthodox Judiasm allows for conversion. You might want to read more about this.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
  64. kamereon

    Why am I always surprised by the constant attempts of Judaism trying to increase the size of its congregation?! Last couple of years I've been seeing a lot of these kind of articles. Just stop, Judaism just isn't everybody's cup of tea. The make up just over 2% of the faithful in the United States, and around 0.2% of the world's faithful. When you factor in atheists and agnostics – then Jews hardly even show on the map.

    So the question becomes why are their so many articles about Judaism?

    December 28, 2011 at 9:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christine

      Why are there so many articles about Judaism? Simple answer: BECAUSE CNN IS OWNED BY JEWS!!

      December 28, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Craig

        Wow. This afternoon I was pondering a letter to CNN saying that I think we should be debating whether reader's opinions are really adding to the quality of on-line news, or was simply an open mouthpiece for the bigoted and big-mouthed. CNN, I hope you will read readers' opinions on this and other stores, and ask yourself the same question. I find myself dreading to venture into the readers opinions more and more.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • BR

        Christine: Please do some research before you put your foot in your mouth. Read Chaiah's well written explanation of proselytizing. Jews just do not do it.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Chaiah

      So, articles should only be written about...? FYI, Judiasm is one of (if not the only) religion that does not proselytze. In fact, it is commanded to try to convince prospective converts out of conversion in order to ensure that one is doing it because they truly wish to do so. No one is asking you – or anyone else to convert. It is simply an interesting phenomenon that Judaism is changing – as it has and will continue to do. Thankfully, it is a religion that grows. If you do not like the articles, then don't read them. It's simple. Avoid clicking on the link or turning to the page.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Imam Saliba

    The kids on picture look Jewish because they have big nose

    December 28, 2011 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan

      Learn English.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Keksi

    So I assume this kids in picture have more right to land in Palestine than Palestinians themselves.

    Especially one with Chinese father.

    December 28, 2011 at 9:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethiopia

      You know, this was about Jews in America, not everything with the word "Jew" in it has to become about the Israel-Palestine conflict. But yes, a converted Jew will get preferential treatment for entry and immigration into the State of Israel. When there is a Palestinian State, as I hope there will be, they will make their own immigration laws as is the right of any Sovereign country.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keksi

      Israel is made by Imports not native people of land.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Skeptic

      Palestinians can blend in with Jews without a trace, since they are all Semitic people; but they choose to be at each other's throat because of religion, something you are raised, not born. Go figure.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keksi

      LMAO...Palestinians and Jews don't blend.

      Go look at some pictures or videos from Israel and compare to Palestinians.Jews stick like sore thumb.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Maybe you should look at less video and spend more time living there. Of course, Hasidic Jews with the hats stick out like sore thumbs, and one can tell the difference between an Arab woman in a hijab and a secular Israeli Jew in a bikini, but otherwise Palestinians and Israeli Jews look alike. It would be impossible, on eyesight alone, to tell the difference between a Palestinian from Ramallah and an Israeli Jew, particularly if he/she is Sephardi.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Keksi

        How many Palestinian women look like Bar Rafael or Natalie Portman???

        Nice try.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        You're joking right? How many Israelis look anything like Bar Rafaeli or Natalie Portman?

        December 28, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Keksi

        How about Esti Ginzborg,Avital Abergil,Pnina Rosenblum ,Gene Simmons??

        December 28, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        I don't know if you are Palestinian or not (I have my doubts) or just a troll, but spouting a few Ashkenazi Jews out of a total Israeli Jewish population of 6 million and nearly 5 million Palestinians is just silly. There are Israeli Jews that are very light skinned, some that are very dark. There are Palestinians who are very dark, others light, some with blue eyes, some with green eyes. The general population looks similar, just as a lot of people in the eastern Mediterranean region look similar, it doesn't mean that for every Israeli Jew there is a Palestinian who looks like his/her twin and vice versa.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:35 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Skeptic

    Actually, it's this desire to keep "Judaism" to only among themselves that allowed the Pope to laugh all the way to the bank. The world could have 1 billion Jews instead of 1 billion Christians.

    December 28, 2011 at 9:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Imam Saliba

      Not true. There are 2.2 billion Christians in the world vs. 15 million Jews. Islam believe in Jesus, while Judaism denies it. Christianity is better and more truly religion. Jesus was an awesome leader.... God Bless JESUS CHRIST

      December 28, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • June

      Jews don't commercialize their religion. We can actually keep some things sacred.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tom

        You must be joking?! Jews control America, brought nonsense "Hanukkah" to public places and made it extremely important holiday to compete with Christmas, try to erase as much Christmas and Christianity from the U.S. as possible, got rid of "Merry Christmas" greetings and the list is waaay to long!

        December 28, 2011 at 9:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • jay

        Sacraed? You're referring to your money?

        December 28, 2011 at 9:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Syue

        @ jay – what does sacraed mean?

        December 28, 2011 at 10:57 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Matt

    JEWS & ISRAEL = R.A.C.I.S.T -- even the article written by CNN Jewish owned proofs it!

    December 28, 2011 at 9:30 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Tom from NY

    I work in retail store in NYC. Whoever is complaining about the prices and ask for coupons, or beg for one, are Jews lol.... so cheap people, that's why they're rich

    December 28, 2011 at 9:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • mag

      your generalization is pathetic. i am married in a chinese family and they use coupons all the time and save money too. but they are not jewish. i also know jews who are very giving to society and charity.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Franklin

      You're a disgusting racist.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      I'm Jewish and have never used a coupon in my life. So F YOU, Tom. Do the world a favor and get hit by a bus.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Moderator

        You want him to go "get hit by a bus" for opening his mouth?

        No wonder you want to nuke Iran for the same trespass.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Huh? When did I say anything about Iran? I'd say the same thing to a racist against blacks, etc. Racism is not needed in this country.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Jennifer

    Jews killed Jesus Christ...... whoever says the "Romans" did is a zionist Jew. For 2000 years, the entire world knows that Jews performed and killed Christ. Where Jesus was born and raised, it was all settled by those Jews, not any other people or faith. Jesus was born Jew, and got killed by his own people!!

    December 28, 2011 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethiopia

      Oh boy. According to the Gospels, the Temple authorities, who obviously were Jewish, tried and condemned Jesus. However, the Temple and Sanhedrin was a puppet of the Roman occupation and to conduct a trial during the passover was actually a violation of Jewish law. Pontious Pilate presented Jesus and Barabas before a crowd of Jerusalemites and the Jerusalemites called for the criminal to be pardoned and not Jesus. The Roman centurions thereafter nailed him to the cross. So it might be correct to say "some Jews, acting under Roman occupation, condemned Jesus to die". That's fine. But "Jews killed Jesus" is just a stupid, outdated antisemetic canard.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Matt

        Jews did kill Christ, who could deny that? Jews still today (escept Messianic Jews) deny Jesus Christ, his excistence and hate Christians. Yet, American's are silly and still accept them. Go to Israel, Christmas is banned and Christians are treated like dogs !! WAKE UP

        December 28, 2011 at 9:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Christmas isn't banned, its celebrated and recognized by the government and Israel is one of the few countries in the middle east where Christians haven't been driven out by ever increasing violence, fanaticism and intimidation (not that there aren't problems or racism in Israel - there is plenty, but comparatively speaking Israel is a normal Western democracy). But thanks for showing off ur ignorance.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Moderator

        Is this straight out of a page from the ADL handbook?

        So guns kills people, not people kill people, right?

        Let's see if we can use your logic and come up with identical statements:

        "the Temple Mount was puppet of the Israeli occupation and to conduct a 911 attack during the month of September was actually a violation of Islamic law.'

        "Some Muslims, acting under Israeli occupation, carried out the attack on 911. That's fine. But "Muslims want Israel to cease to exist" is just a stupid, outdated anti-middle eastern canard.'

        December 28, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Do you realize how dumb and bigoted you sound? "Jews killed Jesus" is a bigoted remark meant to fan the flames of antisemitism. It also happens not to be true, even if one accepts the literal account of the Gospels. Some Jews in Jerusalem condemned Jesus, himself a Jew, to die. Only the Romans however could carry out the execution and approve of it, as they were in charge. But I never hear anyone going around saying "Italians killed Jesus".

        December 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • mag

      LOL. The Romans killed Jesus and i am not jewish or a zionist. i am just a logical non-hater. I am sorry that you cannot see the fact that it was the Romans that did it. The black blood of hate that runs through your veins is eventually cause you misery for the rest of your life. Enjoy.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • GarPundit

      The way I was taught, God killed Jesus, since it was all preordained by God Himself. But the authority under which Jesus was executed was Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor of the region.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan613

      And your story line comes from where?? the new testament?? give me a break... Study facts not tales.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Are you white, Jennifer? If so, I blame you for slavery!! Same logic...

      December 28, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • get it right

      Can CNN have one article about Jews or Israel without all of you Jew hating nut jobs spouting Zionist this or Jew that. I can't believe that I have to breath the same air as you.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • June

        Thank you! I agree 100%!

        December 28, 2011 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • jay

        yes.....you have to breathe "goyim" air. You poor thing,

        December 28, 2011 at 10:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        @ jay – He's referring to racist air. Nice try though!

        December 28, 2011 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • jay

        @susan..... Are you allowed to converse with a Gentile?

        December 28, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        @jay – I am a "Gentile;" I'm also not a hateful person. Nice try, again, though!

        December 28, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • jay

        @susan...you're not hateful. Just naive. Thanks for playing. Again.

        December 28, 2011 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • jay

        though

        December 28, 2011 at 11:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kile

      Please note Matthew 20:18-20

      “We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!” -Jesus

      Note that Jesus says that he will be mocked, beaten, and killed by gentiles. Jesus says he will by killed by non-Jews.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      Christians killed many millions–they committed the atrocities of the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, the Bosnian war, slavery, segregation, etc all in the name of their religion. We don't even believe anyone named Jesus necessarily existed and if he did he was a person who was jewish and the people who kiilled him in your story were Roman soldiers.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Jesus is the way, the truth, the love!

    No matter what Jews look they, none of them will go to heaven and enter the kingdom unless believing in Christ.

    December 28, 2011 at 9:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • sandy

      NOT for me

      December 28, 2011 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • GarPundit

      How fortunate for you that you stumbled upon the One True Answer. I used to believe as you do, until I started asking myself, "why would God condemn His creations to eternal torment for not believing correctly?"

      December 28, 2011 at 9:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan613

      Well, keep your jesus-god, I am not interested AT ALL. There is not such thing as "saviour" and jesus, was probably a good man, a human, incapable of saving himself from that death. Keep it to you. I don't want / need your god.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • mag

      how can Humanity as a whole remove these evil Haters? If you dont believe in Jesus you will burn in hell for eternity. YOUR GOD sounds more like Satan than a loving god. I hope you suffer a miserable life.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      I'd rather be in Hell with those who accept others for their differences than be in Heaven with your bigotted Jesus.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • get it right

      I just love all of the anti-Jew post. Keep it up you bunch of psychopaths. I can't believe that I have to breathe the same air as you.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Beth

      That's right, Joe. Hell sounds great if it means that there aren't any bigots who spout of condemnations on everyone else.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Allen

    Ohhh they look Jewish to me. Look at the size of those noses.

    December 28, 2011 at 9:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • mag

      i thought you had to be at least 13 to comment here? Have you finished your social studies homework?

      December 28, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      Being the 80th person to say this makes you super-lame....can't even come up with something creative!

      December 28, 2011 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
  73. radalet

    If people just married there own race,,,we would be having this debate,,,,It so destructive to society,,Just lookat thie chinese girl,,,she should be able to be wiht her culture,,,,and l all those blacks also,,,,,I'm so against in interacial marriages,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    December 28, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan613

      I don't think there is such "race" unless you speak of the Human race. But if you speak of "ethnic" groups, that's different.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dirty Evil Racist Jew

      ha ha ha ha: here is another fake racist jew. so typical and how they feel about goym is just the way it is

      December 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • GarPundit

      Or how about - if people intermarried freely, and we could all abandon the arrogant concept that our race is somehow superior, and our belief group is the sole owner of the One True Answer, we wouldn't be having this debate. My "culture" is the good people around me of various faiths (including agnostics and atheists) and races (including mixed) with whom I choose to associate.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • mag

      Troll go home.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevleeman

      I can assure you no one outside your race would want to marry you....... Are you the product of inbreeding?

      December 28, 2011 at 9:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • G

      That's right. Intermarriage is not good and should not be encourage. In the end, it will destroy the race. Why would want to destroy a race that has survived for thousands of years?

      December 28, 2011 at 9:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Susan

      This post makes me weep for the public school system in this country.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • BR

      So don't do it! But keep your nose out of other people's business.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:28 am | Report abuse |
  74. Me

    It is a fact, the most intelligent thing I've ever heard uttered by man, came from a Jew. He said" Do unto others as ye would have done unto you."

    December 28, 2011 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • mag

      sadly, the jew you are describing was brutally murdered for preaching that statement.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Me

        And yet, the truth always remains.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Allen

        And what group of people was that anyway? I forgot.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • mag

        @allen, the Romans. They are the ones that brutally murdered jesus.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dirty Evil Racist Jew

      Ha ha the Jews stole that line from the Egyptians, like they stole everything they have attributed to themselves.

      Religion is a lie. fake jews are liars. judaism is a joke and a lie. Come on, get real.

      what a joke

      December 28, 2011 at 9:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • mag

        the golden rule was spoken by jesus. indicating that it was the original christians who stole the statement from Egypt not the Jews. At least get your hate correct.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • md2205

      It is well-known that Hillel was the first to tell a man who came to him and asked him to teach him the entire Torah while standing on one foot. Hillel boiled it down and replied – "Don't do unto others what you would not want done to you. The rest is commentary. Now go and study it." People tend to forget the second part of the quote, which is important.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Me

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    December 28, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Dan613

    Most of Jews are secularists and pretty much are away from religious practices, although many of them simply use a faint paint of religion for cultural identification/tradition purpose. Conversion among them is (for the most part) convenience before marriage. But they still play the "ethnic" idea far wide, which is non-sense. Show me the "jewish" component of the DNA.... Don't forget that the "Jews" today are just a shadow of the past. They also have mingled and mixed with other cultures and ethnic groups, but it was more subtle.

    December 28, 2011 at 8:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethiopia

      Actually, there is a genetic component to Jews, most, indeed, even the Ashkenazi, have middle eastern origin. A white Jew from Russia has more in common, genetically, with a Palestinian or Syrian than a Russian Christian. You can find topics on Jewish genetics on wikipedia (with corroborating sources) and also from the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sci/tech/742430.stm)

      December 28, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan613

        @ Ethiopia, thanks for the link. It is interesting,and probably we know they are related, they are cousins, I agree on that. They belong to a broader family. But again, is an specific trait that identifies them as specifically jews, or just "middle easterners" ?

        December 28, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        There isn't a "Jewish" gene per se. There are certain genetic markers that let us know who is of, say middle eastern origin, northern european, etc. Jews, even "European" ones are overwhelmingly of middle eastern descent. There are some interesting Jewish genetic markers like the "Cohen chromosome" (Certain Jews are "Kohanim" or priests and claim to be descendants of Aaron the High Priest). There is some evidence that this claim of common ancestry for Cohens is true, genetically speaking, although this marker is found in non-Jewish middle easterners as well.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        And it would be interesting to note that Jews are closer genetically to Kurds and Assyrians than to Arabs (from Arabia), as these groups presence in much of the Middle East long predate those of the Arabs. However, Palestinians and Jews are almost indistinguishable as a majority of Palestinians used to be Jews who after the 7th century adopted the Arabic language and Islam.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan613

        OK, interesting... thanks!

        December 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dirty Evil Racist Jew

      fake jews are the devil's children. They are an dirty evil people! I hate em! all of em!

      December 28, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        lol....oh, bored people

        December 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Donald

    sadly, we Jews now have the convert Ivanka Trump in our group. subsequent to the Ivanka conversion, i now think that in order to avoid having Trumps and other meshugenahs in our group, we should not allow conversions anymore.

    December 28, 2011 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • PoBoy

      Your comment is identical to the KKK comments about blacks in America and the IRA position in Ireland. What you and them fail to realize is that the world is changing right in front of your very eyes, and quite frankly in Isarael itself. You can continue to cling to the past and die with it, or advance your thinking and welcome those of like mind, but not like skin color into your fold. You are either growing or your dying..ask any plant!

      December 28, 2011 at 8:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dirty Evil Racist Jew

        Very funny . . . but let me tell you this . . . keep your globalism . . .I don't want it.

        I'm praying for WW3 Baby and I hope it comes soon. The sooner the better! After it's all over, there will be no more israel and no more zionism. That is what is happening. The world is changing right in front of you and I don't care if you are stuck in the past . . .the future is what I am embracing . . . and it's called WW3 – it will start as soon as the dirty evil fake jews (the devil's servants) who will start WW3 – just because all you nasty fake jew zionists wanted to steal Arab land while killing innocent women and children. israel is a curse and the people who live in it or support it are evil and they should be wiped off the planet. It's coming, and I can't wait!!!!

        Yipppppeeeeeee!! come on WW3 Baby – and all the dirty evil zionist survivors will be hunted down and given what they deserve. Yippppeeeeee!! Death the the fake jews/zionists in racist israel!!!!

        December 28, 2011 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dirty Evil Racist Jew

      Real Jews are good people, but fake jews suck caca and zionist fake jews should be wiped off the planet along with racist israel.

      Come on WW3 Baby . . . .after its all over there will be no more zionism and no more racist israel.

      Yipppppeeeeeeeeeeeeee! No more fake jews!

      December 28, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Un-Orthodox Catholic

      Even though Ivanka may not be the best example of a convert, your post underlines something very interesting. Instead of allowing people to choose to join your religion, you openly endorse segregation and isolation. What is next, specific neighborhoods where one cannot enter because they are not Jewish, or maybe even "special camps" gentiles- what about racial laws for non-jews that bar them from specific professions. It's a slippery slope, and one I would think the world would like to avoid.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lsk1000

      Anti-conversionists are near-sighted, bigoted. Born again christians are welcomed into the fold as equals. Are we Jews not as enlightened?

      December 28, 2011 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ia

      You forgot that Clinton's daughter convert too!!!

      December 31, 2011 at 2:34 am | Report abuse |
  78. A Dozen Eggs

    Jew, Muslim, Christian, Hindu. Religion has more to do with your brain than any actual system. If fact, under a CAT scan a religious experience is INDENTICAL to a UFO or an Alien abduction experience. Hate to break this news to you.

    You only believe this because at some point during your formative years this "belief system" was pressed upon you over and over again. And the brain is actually a very compliant organ.

    I "pray" for the day that our species unplugs itself and cares more about the continuation of the species, than any particular race or religion.

    December 28, 2011 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dirty Evil Racist Jew

      OMG . . .fake jews are everywhere. I know this: the dirty evil zionists in the racist state of israel are fake jews. They are khazars from eastern europe . . . hey, if they can call themselves jews, then anyone can do the same.

      I'm a jew, you're a jew . . . .we're all jews . . . the only problem we have is the whole world hates fake jews and the whole world hates israel.

      December 28, 2011 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
  79. wendy

    I am a Jew by birth, have a name that is not necessarilly identified as Jewish, and have blonde hair and blue eyes. Because of this, I've witnessed much anti-semitism that more typically "Jewish looking" people do not get exposed to because some bigots are careful not to speak such a way in front of someone they KNOW is Jewish. On the other hand, I've also witnessed a lot of nasty criticism among Jewish women who label other women as "converts" in a disparaging way, as if a convert is "less than" somehow; on the other other hand, I've spoken with other blonde haired, "non-typical Jewish-looking" women who have experienced the same things, plus, being told the classic, "well, you don't look Jewish" their entire lives. Like me. I've even heard, "you don't sound Jewish"! Maybe someday we'll all just realize we're all just people, part of the same human family, like it or not.

    December 28, 2011 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • mag

      funny how you tell stories of all the anti-semite that you experience, yet you fail big time and Plato and Socrates would tear down your weak argument as illogical and stupid. how many times did you NOT experience anti-semitic talk? I hate religion because people like you use illogical statements to generalize an entire picture which is not true. I had a jewish gf and her parents used to say the n-word all the time. and if you dare mention that the missing tribe of isreal are from ethiopia, they would mock you. n-word are not jews. how do you feel about me using your logic to deduce that all jews are racist? how would you like that? loser.

      December 28, 2011 at 8:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • wendy

        Sorry you're so angry, Mag. I didn't present an argument, nor did I "tell all my stories". I related my experiences. Experiences often defy logic. You should ask yourself why one person's honest experience should inspire you to call names and label them a loser.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • mag

        i'm not angry. i hate all reliigion – jewish, islam, christians. all of them. when one of them start generalizing the other, it strikes a nerve. EIther way, i should not have called you stupid. thanks

        December 28, 2011 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
  80. Hattie

    Judaism is a religion. Humans are part of a race. Who came up with the..."your mother must be Jewish" crap? What religion REQUIRES previous affiliation? The ORIGINAL Jews from Africa did NOT! That is why people call some Jews racist – the ones who believe they have a birthright to being in the "group". Religions and higher callings do not merit any prerequisite except one who believes and practices accordingly. If you want to keep your "created Jewish religion" separate, do just that. Intermarry, interbreed and stay somewhere away from the real world and it's DIVERSITY!!!

    December 28, 2011 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • James michael curley

      Sounds like a lot of people here don't know their history...or anthropology. Jewishness is generally regarded as both a religion and an "ethnicity" (not a race, nor a nationality). That explains how you can be a Jewish atheist. This exclusive paring of religion and ethnicity has given rise to a Jewish "culture."

      December 28, 2011 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Truth Hurts

        Sounds like someone else doesn't know their history. There are a large number of Ethiopian Jews who practice a form of Judaism that is pretty ultra Orthodox. They trace their ancestry to Moses who married an Ethiopian woman. So your ethnic jew covers/excludes whom?

        December 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      The Jewish mother law comes from ye olden times of rape and pillage; If you can't be sure who the father is, at least you can't mistake the mother.

      More American Jews need to go to Israel and witness the incredible diversity – Jews from Europe, North and South America, Africa, Asia – to better appreciate the incredible scope of the Diaspora. Also, because Israel is amazing and everyone of any faith should go at least ten times.

      December 28, 2011 at 8:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • mag

        if i go 9 times, would that still impress you?

        December 28, 2011 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ladies,BewareofthePersianJews

      Amen! I dated a Persian Jew and let me just say, this group is definitely follows this idea that if the mother isn't Jewish, the child won't be either...we are no longer together, obviously.

      December 28, 2011 at 8:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        Did you ever think that it was just his family that felt that way and not an entire religion/nationality of people? Or....maybe you were a bad lay?

        December 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Just my opinion

    It sounds like Ms Chau felt insulted since they didn't allow her Chinese dad to be with her because he's not Jewish and in an intermarriage. One of a multiethnic background can understand what she said and felt in the article. It's as if they celebrated her mother's ethnicity but not her fathers. In any celebration of a person coming of age, one should feel joy and happiness when its over not sadness in any way. Those type of events only happen once in a lifetime. I understand their choice of reasoning but it was at Ms Chau's exspense.

    December 28, 2011 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
  82. The Truth!

    What difference does it make if you are a Jew, a African American, Chinese, ETC. The true GOD is not partial to any race. All are is progeny. Those who are obedient to him he finds delight in. Remenber that people still put value to the fact that at one time God had chosen the Jews to be his people and they as a people will remain so as long as they kept the Abrahamic Covenant which they failed to do thus earning his displeasure as a people but not as individuals. The reason why he chose them was not because they were better than or stronger than any other nation, but that his will was to use the weak ones of the land to shame those who in their own mine was strong.
    The point is that the covenant mentioned that All nations would bless themselves by means of his (Abraham's) seed, this we have seen by means of Christ The foretold Messiah the cornerstone that was rejected by his own. So please stop this kind of discouraging speech that only fosters racisms not unity. We are essentially all brothers and sisters whom share one common and invisible enemy who incites hatred. THINK ABOUT IT!!!

    December 28, 2011 at 8:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Un-Orthodox Catholic

      This is probably the best comment I have seen on this post.

      December 28, 2011 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • J

      Hallelujah!! Someone gets it! We are all brothers and sisters in and through Jesus Christ...thats what matters. God does not condemn based on race. "For God so loved THE WORLD that he gave his only begotten son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life."

      December 28, 2011 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • sandy

        not everyone believes he/she lives through Christ... good for you but never for me...

        December 28, 2011 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth Hurts

      This is a great post, however, these ideals are not at all followed. I remember when Israel opened its borders to all Jews around the world and received and welcomed Russian Jews, but slammed the door shut and then to a trickle the Ethiopian Jews. I thought back then that this was a criminal and racist act. The Israeli Government claimed that this was done as to not pollute the religion because the Ethiopians practiced a different form of Judaism (their texts were ancient and they spoke Aramaic). Yet the Russians that they let in, many of them were not even practicing Jews. They were immigrating for purely economic reasons.

      December 28, 2011 at 8:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Not true. There is a problem with racism against blacks in Israel, however, the State of Israel did launch an operation, at great cost, to airlift, on two occasions, the Jews of Ethiopia - about 50,000 persons in total. Hardly racist to actually want to take in all those black folk.

        December 28, 2011 at 8:57 pm | Report abuse |
  83. true jew

    Fake jews, you are not a real jew unless born from a jewish woman and claiming descent in such a way.

    December 28, 2011 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      What part of DNA is Jewish?

      December 28, 2011 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Danielle T.

      I find it odd that American Jews think they are the real Jews when the origin of Hebrews are from North Africa. Wouldnt that make European Jews less likely to be "real" Jews. Its sad to think people of any relegion or culture would make such stupid remarks about people who share the same faith.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      He's a troll, guys.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • BR

      I can tell you are not Jewish.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:39 am | Report abuse |
  84. Criolla

    In Israel they are not considred Jewish, most do not accept converts.
    I am a practicing Roman Catholic that married a jewish man, before marriage I told him I will not convert, nor ask him to convert, but our children will be raised Roamn Catholics, he agreed, specially because in the Jewish comunity it it is inherited from the mother.
    Our children attended catholics schools and we lived with mostly jewish neighboors that their children also attended catholic schools.
    Argentine jews are in the mayority sefardites and some ashkenazi.
    Sefardites are protective of their culture that have kept for centuries, they speak Ladino that is kind of old Spanish., when they were expelled from Spain around 500 years ago, many went to Morocco, the middle East, Eastern Europe, Greece, etc.
    To the America where Spain reign ;jews came as inmigrants in the 19 century, not during colonial time.
    The only dark Jews are Ethiopian Jews that are not converted .
    All Jews are semitic in origen like arabs.

    December 28, 2011 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
  85. NotJewish

    Who FU__ING cares? Why is this on the front page of CNN, when the NDAA and SOPA are nowhere to be found? This is ridiculous.

    December 28, 2011 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • WD Fan

      Agreed. Not really news. Another stunning example of the degradation in quality reporting of the mainstream media. We don't discuss issues, we either ignore them or permit them to be sensationalized.

      December 28, 2011 at 7:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jenn

        I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you're reading a blog, not a news article.

        December 28, 2011 at 7:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • BR

        Why are you still on this blog?

        December 29, 2011 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Dirty Evil Racist Jew

      Because CNN is a fake jewish zionist mouthpiece – CNN wants to brain wash people into thinking jewishness is something cool – it isn't – judaism sucks – religion sucks

      Come on WW3 Baby – let's thin the world population and let's start with tel-aviv first. Kill all of them!!!

      December 28, 2011 at 9:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • BR

        Give it a rest and go take the meds you missed today.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:43 am | Report abuse |
  86. sameeker

    If I hear "diversity" one more time I could just scream.

    December 28, 2011 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mighty7

      Diversity.

      December 28, 2011 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Furious Styles

      Diversity!

      December 28, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rage

      RAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! I AM GOING TO KILL YOU ALLLL!!!!!

      December 28, 2011 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • thatdude

      DIVERSITY

      December 28, 2011 at 8:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      Diversity! Jesus loves it!

      December 28, 2011 at 9:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • bannister

      sameeker – I agree. The word "diversity" has become a code word to promote open borders, multiculturalism and whatever agenda the Globalists want to push on us. It started being used during the Clinton Administration and it's been a non-stop mantra ever since. The sad irony is that multiculturalism and interracial mixing will ultimately DESTROY human biological diversity.

      December 28, 2011 at 10:54 pm | Report abuse |
  87. WDinDallas

    Christians 2.2 Billion

    Jews 18 Million

    Hmm, probably shouldn't have cruxified Christ.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Emperor Vadik, CA

      Probably shouldn't believe in fairy tales...

      ...especially ones that make a certain group of people scapegoats...

      December 28, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ia

        Pravilbno, Vadim!!!

        December 31, 2011 at 1:59 am | Report abuse |
    • WD Fan

      WD, perhaps you should go back to what people from Texas do best: Incest and killing Presidents.

      December 28, 2011 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • thatdude

        oooooo crushing blow

        December 28, 2011 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • mag

        well-played.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • king

      Real Christians/Catholics know that Christ was a Jew; that the Romans (not Jews) killed Christ; that the Catholic church repudiated the deicide charge in Nostra Aetate; etc., etc., etc.

      December 28, 2011 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Criolla

        We know he is a Jew, but the Romans acted upon the demands of the Jewish Authorities that wanted to get rid of a rebel, that did not conform, that was telling he was a Mesiah.
        That all the Jews were guilty of Jesus torture and death, no, but the Sanedrin yes.
        Also there is what is called Jews for Jesus, in Israel this Jews are persecuted for believing in Jesus. I recommed to read The Cross of Bethlehem,the memoir of a Christian Israeli military officer his name Rov Tov.

        December 28, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • mag

        King is 100% correct. The Romans killed Jesus not the Jews.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pastafaria

      There are much fewer of us for the same reason that only of a small percentage of the worlds population passes the test to join Mensa, is accepted at Harvard, etc. If one of us did kill Christ, it was because we are the only major religion that encourages its members to value knowledge and think critically enough not to see through Christianity's lies ignorance and hypocrisy. To everyone else out there with a triple digit IQ – you're welcome!

      December 28, 2011 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Un-Orthodox Catholic

        @ Pastafaria- I must say that you are no better than some of the bigots on this post. Your insinuations are very disturbing and insulting – for your logic is similar to the logic that the Nazi's used in trying to eliminate the Children of Abraham. Who are you to say such a thing – does going to Harvard and joining Mensa make you a better human being? I would say that the recent Wall Street mess is proof that it does not. If anything you and the idiots at Al-Qaeda and the Iranian theocracy have a lot in common. Christians have apologized from blaming Judaism for the death of Christ- isn't it time Orthodox Judaism let go of their pre-conceived notions and come into the light? If not what makes you better than the other narrow-minded regimes? The only difference that I can see is that you worship Yahweh instead of Allah, of God. Unless you are saying that there is only one true Yahweh, and everyone else is an infidel- sound familiar?

        December 28, 2011 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • mag

        LOL. Even I know a Troll when i see one.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • BR

        If you were in Mensa you could write a paragraph correctly. Also, you are not Jewish.

        December 29, 2011 at 12:50 am | Report abuse |
    • RickN

      What a stupid ignorant statement. Have you thought for a moment why christianity spread so widely? It's the christian doctrine of, "convert to the god of our religion or we will KILL YOU!". That's what has made christianity so successful. Check it out. It's the truth and you're one pathetic ignorant individual.

      December 28, 2011 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Un-Orthodox Catholic

        Hey Rick,

        This used to be the mantra- every religion has skeletons in their closet- including the Jewish religion. I remember that the Jews had to fight a bunch of other tribes, and kill them off, before they could claim the "promised land." So let's now be hypocritical- the point is either a religion evolves or it does not.

        December 28, 2011 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • mag

      The Jews didnt cruxify Jesus, the Romans did. Get your story correct. How do you apply your logic to the 2 billions muslims in the world? they were not there at the cruxification. another major fail in logic. LOSER!

      December 28, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jesus is the way, the truth, the love!

      Actually there are 14 – 15 million Jews worldwide, not 18 million.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:23 pm | Report abuse |
  88. WDinDallas

    Christians

    December 28, 2011 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
  89. StClown

    "That's funny, she doesn't look Druish." Ah, Mel Brooks, you need to make more movies.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Sajor

    "That was a huge turning point for me, because I felt like I had been excluded from a community on the basis of race. I didn’t want anyone to have that experience again."

    Wrong, her Father was excluded, not her. And he was excluded because it was a Jewish ceremony and he isn't Jewish, not because of his race. Might be equally silly and hurtful, but it's good to keep the facts straight.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • cb

      "The ritual committee didn't want to promote intermarriage, didn't want the synagogue to promote intermarriages and didn't want us all to be up there together,"

      Sounds to me like the whole family was excluded. They didn't want to promote intermarriage.

      December 28, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sajor

        Maybe you should take a class in reading comprehension. Or are you trying to obfuscate the facts on purpose?

        December 28, 2011 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
  91. Bob Alper

    Years ago, at a lecture by Julius Lester, African-American former controversial radio host who converted to Judaism after he discovered his grandfather was a Jew, a woman asked, "Don't you feel strange as the only black person in your synagogue?" To which Lester replied, "What do you mean? I own the place!" I still smile when I think of that wonderful, self-assured, response.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
  92. freedom Luchador

    WHO THE HELL CARES?

    December 28, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
  93. luckluc

    Is that mean now jews trying to increase their population by bringing new people into the religion? I thought you can be Jew by birth only. Both father and mother have to be Jew. Now, they are changing the rules. Also, I thought there is only 3 Million Jews in the US not 6. I don't know where does CNN getting its information from? If there were 6 Million Jews in the US, then, Jews would demand an independent country within the US. lol

    December 28, 2011 at 6:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • WDinDallas

      More Jews here than in Israel

      December 28, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • friedcheez

      None of what you said is true. Learn something sometime.

      December 28, 2011 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Judaic Studies M.A. Student

      You are wrong on almost every count here. First, Jewish by birth in most sects of Judaism is defined as having a Jewish mother. Reform Judaism defines it as having either parent being a Jew, but that is an exception in a portion of Judaism that doesn't keep many of the older laws. Second, all branches of Judaism accept converts, though they do not go out trying to convert. Acceptance of converts is attested to in every religious writting they use, including the Bible and the Talmud. Third, there is no reason why Jews would demand an independent country in America. This is not their spiritual homeland, is not the site ordained by their own faith for such a thing. The idea is simply absurd. Please try not to wave your ignorance around so much. It is painful to see. Go educate yourself instead.

      December 28, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Un-Orthodox Catholic

        I do wish educated believers of the Jewish Faith would speak out, and correct the wrongs of their brethren. I would like to thank you for sharing your knowledge, and am sure you will make a great Rabbi. However, I must say that I did not like the comment by the orthodox rabbi where he states that if intermarriage occurs, Judaism would disappear. It is my belief that it is these kind of insensitive comments that breed some of the IDIOTIC responses one sees on these posts (yes, you bigots are all idiots- perpetuating a thought that keeps in you in ignorance and prevents you from leading meaningful lives). What is your thought on the responsibility of the leaders of your faith to criticize such backward comments to promote co-existance between faiths? Is it not the in-ward nature of these communities that helps perpetuate the assumptions about these communities and their exclusionary beliefs? I would argue that these communities are guilty of the same narrow-mindedness that we accuse the Muslim and Christian fundamentalists.

        December 28, 2011 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Un Orthodox Presbyterian

        @Catholic: "I must say that I did not like the comment by the orthodox rabbi where he states that if intermarriage occurs, Judaism would disappear. It is my belief that it is these kind of insensitive comments that breed some of the IDIOTIC responses one sees on these posts"

        I think you are taking the Rabbis comments the wrong way. They were factually quite true and not meant as a racial insult against non-Jews. The demographic studies speak for themselves. The Jewish community in the US has been declining since the 1960s and will continue to decline quite rapidly in the next 5 decades. Intermarriage is the main culprit (others include below avg rate of child births among Jewish women). I'm not saying Jews shouldn't marry non-Jews. People are free to marry whoever they want, but it is not wrong to say that intermarriage leads to the decimation of the Jewish community - that is undoubtedly true.

        December 28, 2011 at 8:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Un-Orthodox Catholic

        Similar comments were made when Irish and Italians wanted to intermarry, or White and Black. The good always survives, and the bad goes away, unless it is maintained through ignorance or closing off of the society. Look at slavery

        December 28, 2011 at 9:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Un-Orthodox Presbyterian

        @un-orthodox catholic: "Similar comments were made when Irish and Italians wanted to intermarry, or White and Black. The good always survives, and the bad goes away, unless it is maintained through ignorance or closing off of the society. Look at slavery"

        I'm sorry, but you are projecting something onto the statement which is just not true. Yes, white supremacists for example used to say that marrying black people would pollute the gene pool and lead to the end of the white race. It was completely a racialist aspect. As far as Jews go, they are a small people, and an ethnic group (not a race) and it is without dispute that the Jewish population is on a rapid decline, aside from the Orthodox Jews, as a result of intermarriage. It does not mean that the product of an intermarried family is somehow genetically inferior. All the statement is is that when there is an intermarried relationship, and the children are raised as something other than Jews, and their fealty is not to maintain Jewish culture and peoplehood, the end result is that Jews will be no more. This is undisputed by all demographic studies done of the Jewish population of the US over the past decades. It isn't a knock against non-jews.

        December 28, 2011 at 9:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryDavidSandwich

      Man you are really, REALLY dumb.

      December 28, 2011 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • e

      people have been converting to judaism for decades. and the OFFICIAL jewish population in the US is ALMOST 6.5 million. you got nothing right – so don't make comment you know nothing about.

      December 28, 2011 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sajor

      As a Jewish convert, let me tell you, no one asked me to convert. It took me about 20 years of soul searching, and then one more year of serious studying before I was allowed to convert. There are over 6 million of us here in the States (more than in Israel) and this IS our country, no need to ask for it at all.

      December 28, 2011 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cohen

      To be considered ethnically Jewish your mother has to be Jewish. My father was (he converted to Christianity when he was in his 20's because he did not feel connected to the Jewish religion) Jewish, but because my mother is not even if we practiced I would not be considered ethnically Jewish. I could still be part of the faith though if I was raised that way.

      December 28, 2011 at 7:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Moses

      Where are you getting your information? You've always been able to convert but it's a difficult proccess. You can't just sign up the way you do to become Christian.

      December 28, 2011 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Roberto

      People can be Jewish by birth or by choice. A person is Jewish by birth if he or she has a Jewish mother. A person is Jewish by choice if he or she converts to Judaism.

      Judaism does not proselytize or attempt to convince non-Jews to convert to Judaism. However, Jews by choice are no more or no less "Jewish" than someone who is Jewish by birth. It is customary to attempt to be more welcoming to Jews by choice out of recognition that their path is a difficult one.

      December 28, 2011 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Syue

      Wow, you're ignorant.

      December 28, 2011 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • BR

      You have embarrassed yourself with your statements. You question where CNN got their information? You, on the other hand, made up each and every thing you said.

      December 29, 2011 at 12:55 am | Report abuse |
  94. Aaeon

    Chau says it was "racism" that kept her father from her Bat Mitzvah. If racism was the reason, she wouldn't have been there either. It was the synagogue's unwillingness to condone intermarriage, not "racism", that led to its decision to exclude her father.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • luckluc

      You know the fact that, Jews are the most racist people in the world.

      December 28, 2011 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Aaeon

        Ummm, ok...Just reading your post luckluc tells me there is no point in debating you.

        December 28, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • RickN

        You're getting Jews mixed up with conservatives. Notice that they're not spelled at all alike. Jews are stereotypically liberal. It's liberals that led the march for equality in the U.S. It was drek like you that opposed it. You lost. Go away.

        December 28, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • GarPundit

        Don't bother to "debate" luckluc. He/she/it is simply a pure troll (though probably truly a racist), just spewing outrageous statements to get a rise out of people.

        Addressing his/her/its point, the sad fact is that there are racists and bigots in every faith tradition and racial heritage, including Jews. So if you're looking to prove that "Jews are racists", you can find anecdotal support for your own racist impulses. But in my experience, Jews average *less* racist and *more* accepting than other faith traditions.

        December 28, 2011 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Joe weber

    The New York Times had an article a while back that described the predation by Bedouin gangs in the Sinai of Sudanese refugees. The refugees were bound for Israel where they knew they would be given refuge. They were traveling enormous distances through harsh terrain to get to the Jewish state. They knew they wouldn't be welcome in Egypt. There was no follow up to the story and the next days, the Israeli destination of the refugees wasn't mentioned. I was perplexed and thought maybe the Times was criticized for reporting something positive about Israel.

    December 28, 2011 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
  96. joesmith

    no matter your,geographical beginnings; your Jewish character training to love all peoples, to share in lifes joys with all you encounter, and to demonstrate compassion beyond measure should overshaddow any local humble beginnings..

    December 28, 2011 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  97. SRCPark

    I grew up in a very small Jewish community in the heart of the Bible Belt and I can tell you that we had in our small membership Jews many different backgrounds. At the same time we were wary because unfortunately there are people who will start attending a synagogue and later you find out that their goal was to try and convert you. These types of proselytizing activities have prompted many Jewish communities to put up their guard. I lived in Israel for two years and while the country is not some type of utopian society where everyone treats each other with respect you do see Jews from Ethiopia, India, Latin America, all over the Middle East, North Africa, Europe, and North America as well. The society is very diverse and despite what most people think, the majority of Jews in Israel are of Middle East decent, not European. The bottom line is that many Jews feel threatened by intermarriage but not by converts because some children from intermarried couples attend synagogue one day and church another. Religion is difficult enough to grasp without trying to explain to a child why Jesus is talked about on Sundays but not on Saturdays.

    December 28, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
  98. krussll

    "Jewish" can mean the race, not just the religion.
    The Jewish race wantsto remain pure. Convertng to the relgion is not enough for all 'Jews' to fully accept you

    December 28, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mayer

      You seem to have missed the point. Judaism is a religion or, more accurately, a way of life, traditionally speaking. Jews are not a race.

      December 28, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • ruspanic

        "Jew" can refer either to an adherent to Judaism or an ethnic Hebrew. Usually these groups overlap.

        December 28, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Aaeon

        Judaism is both a religion and a nationality. It wasn't until the days of Napolean that Jews were accepted as anything other than refugees in Europe because they were viewed as a foreign presence. In this respect, Jews have a uniqueness not many other groups can claim. It is a "religionation".

        December 28, 2011 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nana

        Jews are not a race, but they (we) are a people. Americans are not a race, either, but you hear that reference all the time. I am the adopted, converted daughter of an secular American Jew and a nonJewish mother. So I'm a Jew, a member of the Jewish people with a Jewish premarriage name (I was hardly a "maiden") with family associations with the Holocaust but no relation biologically to anyone Jewish. But I am part of the Jewish people.

        December 28, 2011 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • sami

      Judaism is a belief system, not a race. Christianity is a belief system, not a race. Religion is not passed through the blood. Religion is not race.

      December 28, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sean

      Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, so please don't shoot the messenger. The reason why Judaism isn't a race, because anyone of any background can be a Jew if their mother is Jewish. Regardless, of their color or where they're from. These are laws set forth in the Talmud and others covenants in Leviticus. Obviously, a person can be Jewish and be secular and unobservant and or an atheist.The reform movement will basically recognize all of these folks that feel disenfranchised by main stream conservative or orthodox branches that don't recognize mixed marriages. It's certainly not the only religion that refrains on mixed marriages.

      December 28, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ophir

      There is no such thing as a Jewish race. Is a black african Jew from Ethiopia the same race as a white European Jew from Ukraine? Or a brown skinned Jew from India? No. The only unifying factor is religion, Judaism

      December 28, 2011 at 10:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethiopia

        Eh, maybe, maybe not. There is a common culture, which may include religious components, and a common story or mythology, and whilst not a race, most Jews indeed are of middle eastern descent. Sephardi Jews (the Jews of the Iberian peninsula, the Maghreb, and the other Arab regions) were the majority of the worldwide population until the European population boom of the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries.

        December 28, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Report abuse |
  99. Timothy J. Lisson

    Well, a Portuguese Jew would not likely be "non-white", except in cases where some of the the same diversification processes happening elsewhere had occurred. And as far as I know, Argentine Jews are generally of Ashkenazi descent.

    December 28, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
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