Editor's note: Don Lemon anchors CNN Newsroom during weekend prime-time and serves as a correspondent across CNN's U.S. programming. He is the author of the memoir "Transparent."
This piece is part of a three-part series tied to the (1)ne Drop Project.
By Don Lemon, CNN
(CNN) - For years, the woman on the left in the photograph below could not be friendly to her own husband in public. She would pretend she didn’t know him or tell people he was her driver. She didn’t want him to be beaten in public as he had many times before.
She learned that particular survival technique from the woman in the photograph on the right, her mother and my grandmother, who had to use it from the 1930s until my grandfather died in the 1960s. Both women were often mistaken for white. And for whatever privileges my aunt and grandmother might have received for their light skin, their husbands paid for it by beatings or threats from white men. One handed-down family story that sticks with me is how my uncle was lucky to have survived a savage throttling in the 1950s after exiting a ferry crossing the Mississippi River from Baton Rouge to Port Allen. Apparently, he and my aunt had let down their guard. They never did it again.
Heck, as a child, I wasn’t even sure about my grandmother or my aunt. “Is Aunt-ee Lacy white?” I’d ask. “Lacy’s black,” an adult would say. Of course the reply was followed by a big laugh and a phrase I’d never forget: “It only takes one drop.” Meaning it only takes one drop of “Negro” blood to make you black.
I heard that phrase all the time as a child growing up in the South. And it wasn’t until I moved away from Louisiana as an adult that I recall anyone asking what it meant. As I wrote in my book, "Transparent", “Black America used to be, and perhaps still is, a pigmentocracy, which means that the social hierarchy is based largely on colorism.” I wrote about growing up in Louisiana, a state ruled by pigmentocracy and is at the pinnacle of color consciousness. It was borne out of slavery.
Black slaves impregnated by white slave masters bore children whose skin was so light and hair so straight that they could "pass" for white. Long story short, many of them did "pass," and so did their offspring. The ones who chose to stay on the plantation created the light skin to dark skin hierarchy that helped shape black culture. The ones who ran north toward freedom, opportunity and life as a white person, never looked back.
The alternative was to stay with the people you loved and depending on the time in history, either work on a plantation, in the field, as a maid, a driver or be relegated to some menial job with very little opportunity to advance beyond that.
If you did pass, back then, you didn’t dare tell anyone. If your cover was blown, you faced death. Imagine having to concoct a made-up history of either being an orphan or a product of an estranged family, or the only child of two parents who had already died. Even if your family were alive back home in the South, they may as well be dead because you didn’t dare contact them, except to send home an anonymous envelope with no return address containing a money order or note that read, "I’m OK. I’m alive. I love you."
To this day, the true identities of most of the people who passed are still a well-kept secret. But sooner or later, it turns up in their offspring’s DNA. Occasionally, it’s a dark-skinned child from two light-skinned, fair-haired parents. Sometimes two straight-haired parents produce a mysteriously curly-headed baby. When it does happen, the joke is often that there must be a "dark" person somewhere in the family tree. The reality is that there probably is a "dark" person in that tree, a black one who "passed" and quite possibly avoided a worse fate with a southern tree.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Don Lemon.
Is there a law that says a white man has to like another white man, or a black man has to like another black man? So why is there this need that a white man HAS to like a black man, or any black man? Or a black man has to like a white man, or ANY white man? What difference does it make? This is a free country, right? So whyW the hell is a man not free to like and dislike anybody he chooses, for WHATEVER reason? Why do you want to force racism down everybody's throats? Is a black man looking to marry a white man? If a white man doesn't like him, why does it bother him so much? There are plenty of white guys who dislike me. I'm white, so I do not ascribe this to racism. There are black guys who do not like me either. I do not ascribe this to racism either. But even so, does it really matter if some other men do not like the way I look? They are not my family. I am not related to them. I am not looking to court them and marry them. The only reason I can think of that people keep harping on and on and on about racism is because they are looking to get as many social advantages as possible. /
Quit your crying, you big babies. You're free.
Jimmy, you are right, you don't have to like me and i am sure i won't like you either. Honestly, i may be as racist as you are. the issue is this: do not harm me because you dislike my colour, as long as you don't touch me, i am fine. Actually, i would prefer you as a white man don't like me because i won't have to pretend to like you either and trust me, many, many black people don't like the white skin either. Live and let's live that should be the rule.
Yes, you are free to hate who you chose. Your hatred for others is fueled by your hatred of yourself.
Unfortunately fir you, nt everyone will tolerate your hate.
Yes, all are free but not all are provided equal treatment. Everyone should be able to like and dislike whomever they choose but that doesnt mean they are then free to mistreat or withhold the freedoms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I dont mind if you choose to not be my friend but when I am in your presence, you dont have a right to harm me, either physically or verbally, limit my opportunities or threaten my person, family or belongings. The things I have listed are what others who hide behind their freedom to be racist choose to do when the object of their scorn goes on about their life. I could care less if anyone, especially a racist, likes me. I just want to be free to be me with the fear of harassment or violence.
The one-drop rule makes me smile. Why? Because my family is 100% white- except (!!!) for that "one drop" of blood in us– left (so said my dad) by the "Moors" who invaded parts of Europe from Africa centuries ago. By the time our family emigrated from the British Isles, we comfortably settled into owning other human beings, and by the end of the 1800s, we were entrenched in our superiority despite having lost the Cause. I'm thankful that my dad, who was a Southern small-town boy himself, was enough aware of his own hypocrisy to mention to me that our own family tree was not without its "one drop." It's certainly not something I discuss with my wider family, as many of them would accuse my dad of being a liar and a traitor to the family. But it makes a story like Mr. Lemon cut closer to home for me, as I wonder which of my ancestors first "passed," and I hope it will help the next generation of my family come even closer to human-color-blindess.
I am white and I once helped a black woman that I work with fix a flat tire. She did not have a spare so I drove her to a local big box store to get a can of fix a flat. We walked around the store, which is in an upscale part of suburban Chicago that is considered progressive and liberal. When we were walking around the store I noticed all sorts of people staring at us and I knew it was because they mistook us as a inter-racial couple. This was just a few years ago.
You should come to New England, because it's apparently the only part of the country that doesn't suck these days. I like to, erm, taste the rainbow, and I've dated black, white, hispanic, Jewish, Indian, and Asian women without ever getting a second glance from anyone on the street or in a restaurant or store. Actually, that's not true... black dudes don't seem to like white dudes dating black women, so occasionally I'll get a snide comment in my direction while out with my current girlfriend (who is black).
Most of Black Americans are of a mixxed race... I say Black is Black.... regardless of 1% or a 100%. The blacks that want to feel special because they are immediately descendents of a white parent are fooling themselves.. The White masses will never except you, the smile in your face, but the facts are the facts.
Honestly no one other than blacks wants to be blacks... There is no compromised on this issue...
and I don't care who it is... Either Black or your not...
except/accept your/you're You are not very well educated, are you?
I see lots of young non-blacks doing all they can to be black...
Pants hanging down their @$$...
Rap music blasting...
I don't get that!
Just like I never guy a white bum a dime...
How in the h3ll can I have a decent job, and this fool not???
Everything is geared towards him making it!!!
I am asked for my drivers license everytime I voted in Pennsylvania and Louisiana since 1972. I am white, Irish, German Catholic, I don't consider showing an ID to vote against me, why is it that some blacks and hispanics ha ve a problem with this. Is it because they are illegally in the country or fugitives from justice. Same for whites if they have same issues. You should not be in this country unless you have papers and identification to prove who you are. It is no different then any other country. I think the government should stop messing around with building a fence around our country, it should be a 40-50 foot stone wall and National Guard should be used to patrol the perimeters. We are being invaded on our southern land borders. Immigration should not be left up to the states, it is a national problem. If you don't build high enough fence around your property, don't be upset when the critters come in and poop all over your property.
It is because for so long Blacks could not vote–we had all kinds of reasons and things we had to do because we were Black. There are thousands if not more who do not have a picture ID. There is no reason for one. They don't use the bank–no checks, they don't drive. They live in towns and shop in communities where they are known. There have been times when I was shopping and the white person in front of me did not have to show an id and I did. It's just the same thing all over again.
I think Don Lemon needs to get over himself. Sad to say but I detect "iisues". The "one drop rule" is so antiquated. No one race is superior, and in those days, with the whites trying to hang on desperately to their way, it worked then. If they are still using "the rule", then they are obviously blind to what is happening before their eyes and in their neighbourhoods. The way the world is today with so many intermarriages, no one can say they are 100% anything. There is a race of beautiful people walking around this America, and other countries, who already know this.
Case in point – Persian cats mixed with Siamese cats produce Himalayan cats. THese Himalayans have a specific name and they are recognized and they are adored and they are beautiful. I have one. I know people will say they are animals, they are different. But it' not.
Lemon came out recently. Good for him. He made his point but I think he still has issues. Forget about it...
Camille. I do not believe Don wanted to lament the status of light-skinned Black folks vs. and along with dark-skinned Black folks. I believe this article simply purports an understanding handed down throught Black families for generation. Sorry, but your dismissal will likely not effect that traditionally held understanding. So as long as Trump refer to Black Americans as "The Black", or O'Reilly touting his ability to distiguish between Ice Cube and Ice T, or Newt believing that Black children have not been expose or know of work ethnics and should be task as janitors, and so on and so on...Good looking out Don for a great article.
I love you Lemon but Louisiana is a lot more complex! There are many black people in New Orleans who look white, always has been and they all identify as black or Creole and always have. I am white and was raised in Baton Rouge by a black woman and did not know that her skin tone was a problem until I was in the fourth grade when I heard the N word for the first time. When I asked my mother what it meant I was told it was a word that was used by white trash people who think that they are better then black people, then she went on to say it means dirty. This was a little confused, this was the first time I had ever heard the word black used with people, I became hyper sensitive after that explanation, thinking that black people did not know what some white people thought about them and I can remember being so scared that my Mary was going to get her feelings hurt. I took matters into my own hands the next day and beat the snot out of the boy who had hurled that word in my direction. No one bothered to tell me about a man named Dr. Martin Luther King, I would have to learn about all that later. Mary took me on regular trips to New Orleans to visit her family when I was growing up, I now live in New Orleans and have learned so much more about Louisiana's history (which is black history) from what we cook to why the Cajun language is different depending on where you live, some is heavily mixed with African terms already given to things that were unique to Louisiana before the cajuns arrived. At one point in our history some black people not only owned land but also owned a slave or two. We in Louisiana have a crazy history, the french punished their people who were in debt or were brought into jails for other crime by making them move to Louisiana because no one would come of their own free will. They never earned their freedom often escaping to the outskirts of New Orleans and taken in by free people of color and Native Americans who lived there. So why there is even a race issue here in New Orleans (a majority black city) the old Louisiana money here is not all white. I hate all the bad things that have happened and do happen in Louisiana but I love that taking a short hour and a half to two hour trip in any direction you will experience the most unique human beings you have ever met with family trees that have more than a story or two to tell that are attached to a culture that can only be found here in Louisiana. Black history is our history, we are connected, one drop or not.
So happy that you shared your experience with us. Truly powerful in every aspect. But I'm sure you realized that not every light-skinned person comes from Louisiana, or that white children had such a wonderful parent as yours. Please keep that in mind. Also, I believe Don's article is simply an affirmation of long held traditional thoughts many in America held, is some case, continue to hold.
You should read "Our Kind of People" by Lwarence Otis Graham which gives a very good insight to color and class within the black community. An eye opener.
They didn't really study GENETICS back in those days.
People lie when they say color doesn't matter. When they first handed me my daughter Julia, I thought they were trying to give me a black baby... I started to cry and then I heard my mom say, she's so beautiful! My first thought wasn't about how lucky I was but how dark she was and what people were going to think. Exotic was the nice word my family used. You never know when DNA will throw you a curve ball and yes Julia is extremely beautiful! I feel ashamed that I wasted her first few minutes with me thinking like a fool!
I have to congratuate you for being brave enough to recall for us the shock and sadness you felt upon seeing your daughter. Most people are not honest about their true feelings regarding race and until all of us are comfortable engaging in open dialog, we will never live in a post-racial America. The truth is that most Americans are of mixed ancestry and somewhere along the line, any one of us could have a child in our family with unusually dark or light features. My mom is English, Irish, Dutch and Native American, my father is Black, Irish and Cherokee, my son's father is Ecuadoran and Italian, and my son's son's mother is Italian and German–making my grandson about 1/8 Black, but you'd never guess it by his appearance: although he tans nicely, he is normally fair-skinned, has straight strawberry blond hair and European features. I only hope that when he gets older and is asked, "What are you?" the only answer he'll have to give is, "American."
read this article...
An outsider's perspective:
I came here (legally) in my early 20s from the communist Europe. We were raised to treat everyone equally, in fact all races "different" from us generated curiosity and interest.
After 30 years of learning about this country, living in all four corners of this great country and travelling for business, I found that the vast majority of people are race tolerant.
Sure there are areas where it will take a while yet, howeve most of us get along. Those who cry racism are the ones who are the most racist, just visit some of the inner cities.
Perhaps you should scratch the surface.
I frew up in Texas and started the first grade the first year my school discrict became "integrated" by Federal order. What I find interesting about this article is that I did not know about this "only one drop" nonsense until a BLACK person told me about it (when I was 15). I did not know (or care) that my friend Michelle was "black." I thought she was beautiful and I LOVED her hair! Seems to me a certain "group" in our society has the desire to promote a devisive society.
You have to understand that friendships between people of different ethnicities can be complicated. It can't always be as easy as "I love her and she loves me and that's all that matters." It's also interesting that you mentioned how you loved your black friend's hair. Well, I assume you know that she's more than her hair or a curious set of physical traits you'd previously not been exposed to. Were you just friends at school, or did your relationship extend to your prospective homes? What would you have done if, out somewhere together, someone made a racist comment against your friend. Your response would be critical to the survival of the friendship. My intent is not to criticize you because I believe you mean well, but, it's complicated.
No, what you're describing is a white privilege. You didn't see a problem with the way the world worked because, as a white person, it worked in your favor. I used to be the same way. Then I turned 12 and grew up. You were living in ignorance, and still are if you think that other "group" (ignorance and hypocrisy!) is the one causing the continued segregation in society.
Ann: You're right that those who don't experience racism are less likely to see it. In sixth grade, my best friend Anthony and I were walking our dogs when a white kid across the street hollered, "Oh, look at the tootsie roll!", and his friend laughed. I had to ask Anthony what they meant, and when he explained they were making fun of his skin color, I wanted to go back and give them what-for, but he just said, "Nah - it won't do any good."
But we also "see" what we expect to see. Years later, I was treated extremely rudely by a waitress at a chain restaurant. Since she and I were both white, I just thought "What a b****!" and left her an insultingly small tip. But in the news at the same time was a lawsuit by a black man who attributed the rude treatment he'd received at the same chain restaurant by a white waitress as racism, even though she hadn't used any racial terms on him. Was it racism? Maybe. Maybe not. But I bet there are a lot of people reading this who are positive it was racism, and I'm simply naive in thinking that maybe she was just a hot-head having a bad day, or maybe he was simply a difficult customer.
True, there is still too much racism, but it's not all-pervasive and accepted like it used to be. We have moved a *long* way in the right direction.
Your article was interesting, but I am so weary of race discussions. There is one race, the human race. Let us all care for each other and choose our friends based on character.
What a stupid response! Stop trying to minimize race and racial issues. This is history ... and it is what it is.
It might also be wise to not make of things more than they are. I find it sad when others can't express honest feelings without personal attack. I don't deny history. I don't wish for it to be ignored as this would be foolish and invite repeating the mistakes of the past. I just yearn for they day we see each other as people; God's beloved children created in His image and valued by Him greatly. If we saw the value He sees, we would treat each other with genuine respect and concern. I don't mean we ignore problems or "pretend" all is right, but viewpoint is a good starting point. All people are equal and valued by God.
And that's the problem-people won't admit that they have issues with race,or they let it affect their lives in some way or another. If everyone got along regardless of race,that would be great,but I think we all know what the reality is...
Like I wrote to another poster, I think you mean well by your comment, but race matters and racism cannot be simply reduced to "We're all one race – the human race." Are you tired of race discussions because racism doesn't touch you? Have you ever experienced racism because of your skin color or based on some harmful stereotype? If not, you cannot understand what people of color struggle against. It's like we just cannot simple "be." We can be minding our own business living a peaceful, productive life when a white person comes along, points out our color, and sometimes solicits justification of why we're here, or why we have that big house or nice car, or how we can afford that private school, or how we got that promotion that we worked so hard for. Hear me, the majority of black people are peaceful and want the same out of life as others – safety, protection, financial stability, family, home, great job, education, etc. As a black woman, I get tired to having to explain myself to white people, or having my color thrown in my face. I just want to be. And yes, sometimes black people get tired and weighted down by race, racism, or discussing race-related matters. I'm proud of my heritage and love my people, but sometimes, I get tired of dealing with people who have a problem with my color.
Why doesn't the page state BLACK IN AMERICA. That's what this is. Instead it states IN AMERICA. Trying to be P.C.?
If it truly "only takes a drop" does that mean about 90% of the white people from the southeast are Cherokees or members of other tribes?
No it does not.The reason is that 99% of the rednecks you are speaking of that claim to have Cherokee ancestry in fact do not.
Interesting. I know lots of people who can prove they have Cherokee blood but even the tribe will not recognize them becuase it isn't enough to qualify for tribe or fed gov't funds as natives. So is guess it requires more than a drop.
No. As a genealogist I find it a very common romantic notion among clients to have Cherokee ancestry. Most of these claims are based purely on appearance. I have had clients bring me 19th century black and white photographs of very weathered farmers and say, "They're Cherokee, just look at 'em". Actually, they're just weathered and aged white farmers.
Several things must be considered before making the "Cherokee Claim":
1) Most Cherokee were moved to western reservations by mid-1800's
2) The incidence of intermarriage between whites/blacks and Cherokee was extremely rare
3) There were many, many other tribes that populated the southeast
4) The Cherokee ancestry connection is a hold-over from the Mingo (white father/Cherokee mother) character in the TV series Daniel Boone (most people aren't aware of the thousands of tribes that existed and connect with Cherokee because that's all they know. This is most interesting when I hear it from people whose ancesters lived in parts of the country where Cherokee never ever existed)
As a geneologist you may be interested to know that Cherokee owned many black slaves (in Oklahoma, more Cherokee owned slaves per capita than whites at a certain point), and in that relationship, more mixing took place than your post. Also, Cherokee still reject blacks who can prove they have Cherokee blood (using genetic tests). It would behoove you to be more appraised of this part of history if you are going to comment as a specialist.
Actually, to enroll as a member of the Cherokee Nation, a person only has to prove their heritage by showing their lineage is directly descended from a member of the tribe. There is no "blood quantum" requirement for the Cherokees, so if someone cannot prove they are directly related to a Cherokee person, even four generations back (for example), then they will not be granted citizenship nor privileges that citizenship entails...Other tribes have more stringent requirements than the Cherokees.
As I understand it, Cherokee had to accept their emancipated african slaves into the nation. This has changed and now they've booted the descendants, hence the uproar.
John: 14 Treat people the way you want to be treated !
I don't believe in this ONE DROP rule. It's a a slave rule saying that only White ppl can be pure and no on else can be. Biracial children should be able to identify themselves as both Black and White and not just Black. White is not some genetically superior race that one drop of Black blood automatically makes you Black.
I agree with you 100%.
The "one drop" rule is soooo outdated but few people get it. I have multi-racial children of various skin tones. The whites say they are black and the blacks say they are not black enough. They've had to find their own comfort zone. Our country is becoming so ethnically/racially/internationally mixed that these stereotypes have to go.
The "one drop rule" was part of the Racial Integrity Act of 1924 of Virginia, and not made up by black people, but white people.
Usually when someone states "I'm not being racist", it is normally followed by a racist statement. You prove my statement. Contrary to what you and newt gingrich think, a majority of Black and Hispanic have jobs and we don't all get food stamps. A majority of our community consist of law abiding, hard working people. But don't let the facts get in the way of the lies that you are spreading.
What is the point of this article? I could write an article about my white father denying his wife too...not victim attention grabbing enough for CNN?
The point is you're a moron. That's the point.
So the point is the author is a moron? Ok then.
No, M, YOU'RE the moron!! And an IDIOT!
MOVE TO HAWAII
Growing up in Arkansas you always heard these stories and the history then the sugar coated version but history needs to be told for the stand point of the trurth and nothing but. God Bless you
Read the book (or see the movie) The Human Stain.
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One of my ancestors was apparantly someone who "passed" since DNA testing has revealed that I have a small amount of fairly recent African DNA, though I am white. I wish more of those racist whites would get their DNA tested..they might find a few surprises :)
Pure racism is based on race/color. Actual, currently practiced "racism" is based on culture. Barack Obama isn't "black" at all. Some Caucasian people aren't "white" at all. People largely discriminate nowadays by behavior, as they should. Tolerance should never include acceptance of bad behavior no matter what the offender might look like. Stop tolerating bad behavior and a lot of negative stereotypes will go away.
Very interesting post to say the leas.
I watched a movie called "Pinky" when I was a kid. It was made in 1949 and I think it puts this topic into perfect perception from the view of the Nurse. I think ALL of the nay-sayers above should see this flick.
"The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass" ... one of the best books I've ever read.
Unfortunately, I hear blacks who are more racist than whites. They need to get over it! It is their own insecurities that make them feel like they are being picked on. I am white Norwegian/German decent and I have a lovely daughter-in-law from Vietnam. I wouldn't trade her for anything.
I grew up in the deep south. I don't think I'd say blacks are more racist than whites. I've worked (and currently work) with wonderful whites, blacks, hispanics, asians. It's just that each ethnic group has those who are racist and they seem to make the news more than those that are good, decent people.
I love what you have said here. This is well done. I'd also like to include the aspect of "White Privilege" as it relates to society in general and all people of color specifically. As Peggy McIntosh, authority on this issue says, even though people may not consider themselves racist, they do benefit from white privilege. When I discuss this issue with whites, many of them become very defensive about it and start with the old stance " racism is in the past.... life these days is all about individual merit and achievement, not skin color"
Not true. , CJ.
So true....racism is so embedded in our culture, society, media, mindsets etc., it's sad. It's virutally impossible to ever go away, and white privilege is worldwide, not even just in the States.
The South Asian culture is just as racist. The lighter your skin is, the more beautiful you are, while being darker makes you ugly. The most popular skin lotion is called "Fair and Lovely" which supposedly makes your skin lighter. Just look at celebrities and you can see how they're all lighter-skinned, even the news people are as white as they can get. It's pretty sick.
The South Asian culture is just as racist. The lighter your skin, the more beautiful you are and if you're darker, you're simply ugly. There's even this popular skin lotion called "Fair and Lovely" which promises to make your skin lighter. Just look at celebrities and news anchors and they're as white as they can be. It's disgusting.
Christ, what an imbecile. There are racists on both sides. But the racists on the white side have vastly more power, being in the majority. How big a deal is it as a white person if you can't get a black person to give you a job?
"Unfortunately", you OBVIOUSLY don't understand the very racism of which you speak.
Considering your background, I'm surprised that you would come up with such a notion! Think of it this way....were the Jews of Germany, who in MANY cases saw EVERYTHING systematically taken away from them, including their very lives, "MORE RACIST" in their feelings post-war feelings than other Germans who were indifferent to what happened to them??!!.........................I didn't think so!
So if you haven't got the family history to understand what happened in THIS country to people of African descent, I suggest taking a trip to Germany and get yourself a quick history lesson on the effects of SYSTEMATIC, outward hatred of one minority social group by a national MAJORITY!
The lady on the right in the picture....regardless of her race, she's beautiful!
She is that.
On the day that we honor Martin Luther King, Jr., lets remember his words and not judge others by the color of their skin.
Dark, light, black, brown and white we all bleed the same...anything else is some form of racism in my opinion.
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– How an act of 'Loving' destroyed a racist "rule"
– There's No such thing as a "light-skinned black" person
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– The Black-And-White-World of 'Walter Plecker' & "Naomi Drake'
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Does this mean that the African American community is finally willing to accept that Obama is half white?
It seems that someone needs to inform you that - it was NOT
"the African American community" (to use your words) that
(falsely) labeled Obama as being Black (or even, more falsely,
as African American) - it was actually 'the media' that did such.
In addition - your spreading of lies about any
American ETHNIC group does NOT help anything.
You should spend MORE time EDUCATING yourself
and LESS time spreading lies about other groups.
– How an act of 'Loving' destroyed a racist "rule"
THIS RESPONSE IS DIRECTED TO "Jack"
It seems that someone needs to inform you that - it was NOT
"the African American community" (to use your words) that
(falsely) labeled Obama as being Black (or even, more falsely,
as African American) - it was actually 'the media' that did such.
In addition - your spreading of lies about any
American ETHNIC group does NOT help anything.
You should spend MORE time EDUCATING yourself
and LESS time spreading lies about other groups.
– How an act of 'Loving' destroyed a racist "rule"
I never knew that we did not accept that fact? We have seen pictures of his mother and father. I think it is a mute point. Can white people stop saying he is muslim? Or not a natural born citizen?
who cares if he is or is not Muslim...it is a religion and not a race...and coming from a white woman..nothing is wrong with anyone being Muslim..They believe in GOD PERIOD
Cash, just a quick FYI...in the context you used the word it is "moot" not "mute".
I agree with Jack. He is not a Black President but a bi-racial one. I feel like he slapped his mother when he refers to himself as a black man. If his race needed to be a issue, he should have said I am an American that is bi-racial of two loving parents.. PERIOD
Concerning Obama being Black or Bi-racial, let's at least be considerate of the fact that he is a product of this racially charged society, which historically always has had skin color and race as its driving factors. In this society he is Black or African American. When you stop and think about it, all AAs or mixed blooded people, genetically speaking no AAs can say he/she is pure African. I myself found out through DNA testing, I am 40% European and did not even know it. But, what am I to do now, go around calling myself Bi-racial, half white, Mulatto,etc. This would be foolish considering the fact that the dominant white society has set the rule....the "One Drop Rule."
@CJ-Exactly. If Obama weren't President and were walking down the street and someone (Black or White) saw him,he would be "just another Black man". Make him President,and all of a sudden,it's "well,um...he's white too!",as if all of the Presidents before him weren't White or something...
- How an act of 'Loving' destroyed a racist "rule"
- There's No such thing as a "light-skinned black" person
There are several historical fallacies in this article. The historical misconceptions actually lead to the " pigmentocracy" described by the author (which I think is exaggerated as well). Firstly, Children of slaves, even if fathered by the slave master, were still slaves. Thusly, they had no "choice" as to whether or not they stayed on the plantation. Secondly, light skinned slaves were not favored, and were not predominantly working "in the house". Most were treated with severity, so as to prove to them and other slaves of their status (because they may have resembled the master, the master didn't want them to think they were any closer to "free" than the others). They were given the hardest work and worst punishment. Darker skinned slaves were marketed at auction for household work, specifically because the stereotype was that they were more submissive, and thusly more trustworthy. The idea that lighter skinned slaves were favored and treated better was a myth started in the segregation era and not supported in that era – darker skinned domestics were favored. There is however a trend of mixed-race slaves escaping slavery, though the reasons for the trend are up for debate. "High Yellow" or "passing" blacks hid their heritage because they wished to escape the persecution that blacks of all shades endured, and only a few did this successfully. The black community is less stratified by complexion than one would think after reading this article, and the division is not one that is a "deal breaker" between black folk.
YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT - AND LISTED BELOW ARE
LINKS THAT BACK UP WHAT YOU HAVE STATED.
– Breaking the MYTHS about “the slavery days”
- How an act of 'Loving' destroyed a racist "rule"
Excuse my ignorance, but how many plantations were there during that period anyway?
I don't really understand your question. Are you asking for the number of slave-owning plantations in US history? During which period of time?
Slavery was (and IS) terrible, across the board, and racism isn't right. I think racism is mostly harmful to those good individuals who are moral and ethical, and who are still being judged and held back by ignorant people.
But, before we start judging the "white" man of 100 years ago, everyone (including African Americans) needs to recognize that the Africans were enslaving their fellow Africans for hundreds, if not thousands of years, before selling off these people to MANY foreign lands, not just north America, for a nice profit. Wikipedia: "African Slave Trade", AND GET EDUCATED.
Second, slavery and indentured servitude still continues today....
Third, African Americans and Latinos label themselves as more or less desirable and worthy based on how light their skin, how straight their hair, and how caucasian their features, so the prejudice, colorist, rascism.... whatever you want to call it, is also coming from within themselves, and that needs to change, first. Why would you believe in someone who doesn't believe in themselves?
Fourth, whether, white, black, hispanic, or other, YOU are responsible for your own actions, so stop blaming the opposite race, or your parents, or the government for your misfortunes! No one owes you anything! Get out and work harder, and stop your whining!
How easy it is to make these statements from a privileged perspective. After all you have never had to deal with driving while black or be accused of being "illegal" because of the color of your skin.
@ bendelep Actually slavery existed all the way back in biblical times. If you remember the Egyptians enslaved the Isrealites. During that time and many centuries afterward was that when two nations fought the winning nation or tribe would enslave the losing nation or tribe. Basically your day to day life did not change. The only change was who you paid your taxes or tribute to. When the Europeans enslaved the Africans it was personal. The enslaved Africans were treated as property or chattel. That was and still is the difference. As someone who has benn discriminated against recently I can tell you that I don't blame anyone, but the individuals involved. I am well educated and I work hard, so your assumption or accusation that we need to get off our butts is ignorant and racist at its core.
Your statement that " African Americans and Latinos label themselves as more or less desirable and worthy based on how light their skin, how straight their hair, and how caucasian their features, so the prejudice, colorist, rascism.... whatever you want to call it, is also coming from within themselves, and that needs to change, first. Why would you believe in someone who doesn't believe in themselves?" Is extremely false and ignorant. Obviously you don't really know any Black people and you have never had serious intelligent conversation with a Black person. You need to read books written about Black people written by Black Scholars not rely on inf you get from wikipedia.
No matter if you're white, brown, yellow, red, black or any variation in between, Africa is the cradle of humanity, the start of the human family tree from which all our ancestors hail. We ALL have "one drop" in common.
Well, I am an Indian girl who grew up in India -among people of every possible skin tone. I can't figure out why in America people still try to read cultural differences based on skin color -to me an African American man and a Caucasian man who are both Americans, who have grown up in the same city, gone to the same school , been exposed to the same cultural influences in Music,etc. have the same culture.
Please do not pretend like racism based on skin color does not exist in India. I know you think all Americans are stupid, uneducated, untraveled, sheltered, etc. But please believe this one is not. India has plenty of racism against dark skinned indians, and please don't be an african american there and think you'll be treated like your white traveling buddies.
Well, races in India are so mixed that you could never figure out one race from another without doing a detailed DNA analysis of everyone there. So, it's pretty much impractical for people to be 'racist' -especially based on skin tone because well, anyone can have kids of any color really.
I am not sure why my earlier response did not get printed. Anyways, I definitely am not stupid enough to think that all Americans are stupid and illiterate. From my experience, there are brilliant Americans and dumb ones -just like there are in any country across the world.
BTW, my statement there was seriously -to try and understand why Black and White people consider themselves different even after all those years. I am neither accusing the white people of being racist nor the Black people of being extra sensitive..just trying to understand.. But anyways, I've learnt my lesson -people obviously are racist enough to turn on me for what was genuine confusion. No more race talk from me –to me, it's anyways such a silly and useless topic.
Who are you trying to kid? Skin tone is absolutely critical in India! Do you not have a class of people called the "Untouchables" who have no standing as human beings, much less as citizens. Apparently, hypocrisy is as rampant as racism in this f-ed up world.
Nopes. Untouchability had nothing to do with the skin color. It had more to do with the rich treating the poor like the dust below their feet -the poor were responsible for the worst of tasks, eventually they were treated as untouchables. If it exists today in pockets, its among the poorest and the most illiterate villagers. I've heard very urbane people talk of skin color in the US.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't India's cast system originate from social position based skin tone, with the darker people being cast as inferior to the lighter people. And, also, don't Indians use chemicals to lighten their skin tone to appear more European? I have also, encountered many Indians and Asians in general, who are very racist toward Blacks/Africans people. They seem to consider Blacks/Africans to be inferior to themselves, even though they themselves have been victims of racism in America but have benefited from the Black civil rights movement of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. All minorities have benefited from the civil rights movement but many consider Blacks inferior to themselves. Your thoughts.
A lot of things you have said are incorrect. For example... and I would not have shared this had it not been for your accusations. On my first visit to US, I found that the Black people were always much kinder to me. I tried not to develop or at least not to speak out this stereotype as my sample set was way too small (just 4 people) but had you asked me and if I were to be honest, this is what I would have told you. You are obviously friends with a set of Indians who I would not have befriended since they seem to be so narrow minded.
Jaya, I have many Indian friends (immigrated to the US for work) and they are extremely aware of skin color among other Indians. Families looking for potential spouses for sons or daughters look for and even advertise for candidates who are "fair." Soaps and beauty products in India promise "fair" skin. I think India is one of the more openly skin-color obsessed cultures.
Fiona, perhaps people do prefer lighter skin colored partners when people are going in for arranged marriages. Maybe in India, the idea of 'good looking' includes being lighter skinned and that's why the preference for such people. But then doesn't everyone like a good looking partner-in any part of the world? In certain cultures I read about, women with rings through their lips are considered beautiful.It's very much possible, because of our gene pool, that if a woman has 2 children, one child will be almost Caucasian fair and another would be dark -how can you expect a mother to be racist when they are both kids of her own race?
hmmm. Great article.
Jaya, FYI , I'm Indian, from India, born and raised. Who are you trying to kid, or what? Skin color is a major issue attached to the caste system for thousands of years in India.
In the UK, the younger generation are finally addressing these very issues openly and comedically. Do yourself a favor and quit lying. It's totally embarrassing.
Why not be grateful that on this day Dr. King made it possible for people like you and to not be on the back of the bus. (and believe me that's where we'd be). Grow up and stop posting misinformed responses.
Jaya, I am a an American who happens to be white and who completely agrees with you. There are many who place too much emphasis on skin color in this country. As long as you work hard and are a good citizen, I don't care what color your skin is.
one drop of booze should do the trick
Life is to short to spend it being a color. Will Rogers said it the best I've ever heard, and I quote, "I never met a MAN that I didn't like."
This race baiting stuff is ridiculous. There is no such thing as any pure race. I do believe that the powers that be push this nonsense because they don't want folks to get het up about the real problems we face. We are all a mixture of all races, people need to get over it. What makes us unique is what's on the inside.
Life is to short to spend it as a color. Will Rogers said it best, and I quote "I never met a MAN that I didn't like."
Tell this to the little white lady who gets off the elevator when a Black guy gets on it. Tell that to the racist white father when his daughter shows up to dinner with the the Star, Black High School football player, tell this to the white cop who harasses the young black guy for being in a white neighborhood. We'd like to think all people are equal and that America is a racially neutral society, but to says this would not be honest with yourself...or, do we harbor a prejudices inside, only you know the truth.
Wait !!!! Black guys play football ? Just kidding with you. Everything you said does happen. I see it all the time. They are fairly common reactions some white people have towards some black people. Not sure what types of reactions are common of black people toward whites. I'm sure they do because they are people, just like white people. I'm not patronizing you. I agree the problem is as you state. If this behavior is a learned behavior (and I believe it is) then only time and education can remedy this ill. It does not help to argue with a racist. They only tighten their grip. Keep spreading the word for awareness and hopefully they'll change. It's gonna be slow though.
I am a white woman who was married to a Carribean black man. He had no particular color preference and neither did I, but you should have seen the disdainful looks I received from African American women and the smiles he received from African American men. Because he was not of the American culture, it was odd to him. In addition, African Americans put down his culture and really didn't want to have much of anything to do with the "island man". Whites seemed to accept him because even though his skin was dark, his culture was English/French. I live in the South and have seen and heard negative comments from African Americans regarding the African black culture as well. C'mon now, you know it's true. From my perspective, It's not a "black" thing, it's a White American/Black American thing, and particularly a "southern thing". I am from the Northeast originally, and there are so many cultures, that there's not enough time in the day to decide who you're not going to like.
Wow, grandma was a beautiful lady.
I live in Washington D.C. and we have several viral videos on the internet of blacks ganging up and beating up whites – just to beat up a white person. Just because a few whites in the 50's and before then – beat up some blacks doesn't mean all whites are bad. Same as just because a few blacks are beating up whites on Metro systems – doesn't mean all blacks are bad.
There are gonna be good and bad people of all races – stereotyping all whites as being one way and all blacks as being another way – is promoting more racism. Many whites and blacks are seeing that there are good and bad people of all shades.
You did not get it at all, they are talking about some other times in history and for that reason white people are beaten now.
These black people you are accusing of would have turned gentlemen [as you see those who come now pure from Africa] if their grand fathers or grand mothers were not slaves. Think if your father is beaten or slapped when he took you everytime to a grocery store..I am talking about that type of anger.
I am neither black nor white, so I am just saying. May be I am wrong.
Your wrong. There's no justification for type of behavior like that. Period.
until you walk in my shoes, don't suggest my feet shouldn't hurt. One day we'll all understand.
As a black woman not of American descent I can tell you that from my experience what is affecting African Americans isn't physical slavery, it is mental slavery. The latter is a virulent disease that affects all of humanity-to varying degrees. I've met enough African Americans whose dispositions and hateful rhetoric was every bit as depicable as the racists whom I hate. The way the African American Collective treats its women and children is worse than Any physical slavery. I am glad I was born in a place that is and will never be perfect, but gave me the intellectual reasoning faculties to understand the things that I have herein highlighted.
Thank you for writing this blog. I like to add from my own family's "passing" experience that not only do we have lighter skin in my family (many OH! MANY people think my mother and I Hispanic/Italian) but we recently discovered with the death of my great grandmother that she was Native American. Cherokee, in fact. All this time, and we're talking 94 years here, we in my whole family believed she was an African-American, a black, a light-skinned sister. But upon finding her birth certificate it clearly states "American Indian". Now I understand the Cherokee are fighting with black people and accepting them into the Nation, to which I agree on some levels; though to see for myself that this woman I've known since birth wasn't who she said she was is upsetting. Being that we've lived in the South and I've grasped with the reality that racism is alive and well, I truly didn't think THIS was a big deal. Turns out I'm wrong.
Anyway, thought I'd share a bit. Oh and to everyone else, from my personal experience the "black side" of my family hates us more for going outside the "races" than my white side. There is a whole hell of a lot of pride to being a Black Southerner, but to be hated because I'm lighter than you, yall need to get off your high horse because at the end of the day I'm still bleeding the same colour as you!
This "war" of racism will never ever ever end....if we do not "choose" to end it. There is white "trash", there is black "trash", there is hispanic "trash", etc. etc. Now we can choose to stay in the gutter, or we can "choose" to pull ourselves out. Everything else is really just an excuse! The good ol' blame game. It is only an excuse for staying in a racist state of mind. I "choose" to end it. I cannot make anyone else feel differently, but let the change begin....one life at a time.
Karen, you are correct. As long as we have the Latin Image Awards, the Black Caucus, United Negro College Fund, and other segragationalist organizationa perpetuating separatist views we will never eliominate these feelings and emotions. As I have always stated, if I don't like you, it is because I don't like you, it is not because of your race, religion, or nationality.
completely agree. I have felt for a while now that award shows, groups and organizations for only a certain race or color, really need to stop now. there is little or no need for them anymore. We as a nation can fight for eachother, white, black, Asian, Arab or Latino, whatever ethnicity you happen to be we are all Americans and its what makes us great. all of these separate groups only separate us more. I look at what is happening in the news and it only makes it more clear to me that we are all in this together. its not just blacks who are fighting for people like Treyvon it is everyone as a whole. We The People
I agree with you. We each make our own fate by actions we do. I am, native american and white...and maybe a lot more if truth be told but it doesn't matter. I am who I am by my own actions, be they good or evil.
A big problem. (and surprisingly, I'm not being racist, here) is that a higher percentage of the blacks and hispanics in the US are "trash".... a much higher percentage. Until those percentages equalize, many will still judge a whole race based on the percentage of "bad" that it puts out. Yes, it may be due to socioeconomic reasons, but the problem is, many people are looking for an easy fix to their problems, and aren't willing to take responsibility for their actions. Bad parenting leads to teenage moms, leads to bad parenting.... it's a vicious cycle, and at some point a generation needs to be empowered to change the trend.....
Here's the problem... (and surprisingly, I'm not being racist, here) is that a higher percentage of the blacks and hispanics in the US are "trash".... a much higher percentage. Until those percentages equalize, many will still judge a whole race based on the percentage of "bad" that it puts out. Yes, it may be due to socioeconomic reasons, but the problem is, many people are looking for an easy fix to their problems, and aren't willing to take responsibility for their actions. Bad parenting leads to teenage moms, leads to bad parenting.... it's a vicious cycle, and at some point a generation needs to be empowered to change the trend.....
Are black sorrorities and fraternities still doing that 'Brown paper bag' test. I've heard stories where only people with skin color approximating that of a brown paper bag (or lighter) will be considered for acceptance into the sorrority or fraternity. To me, it would make more sense that if they wanted to use such a condition for selection, that they would want people whose skin pigmentation was darker than the brown paper bag, not lighter. although, I must admit that I've always seen folks involved in black frats/sorrorities that would definitely fail the paper bag test, so I'm not sure where that story is coming from, just that I'm always hearing black people talking about it. somebody please enlighten me on the truth/fiction behind this 'brown paper bag' test, because I just don't get it.
I doubt that you hear black people talking about tha., It is a ridiculous lie, that you should not attempt to spread.
If Black are talking about it, it is because they learned the "blood" of racism through their ancestors living on the slave plantations. Racism was started and ingrained in this Society by White America and these sick teachings were handed down from the plantations to the classrooms.
Hmmm...! So racism really began, at least in America, with white slave owners? Partially, sure. Let's not forget the warring African tribes that promoted cultural genocide by enslaving then selling their rivals to the slave traders (it always seems like that detail gets left out of the rhetoric). Slavery has been around much longer than America and can be found historically across all races and cultures.
You know Jack, I was wondering that very same thing. 10 years ago when I applied for colleges, I strongly considered Howard University. Hell I had the grades, the ambition, I even went with my black grandfather and white grandmother on one of their tours (my mother had to work). Let me say, I did not feel as welcomed into that campus as I was led to believe. In the end, I decided on a different school and when I entered I refused to list my ethnicities to my advisor who insisted I "USE" that to my benefit on loans/scholarships. I made it clear to her upon our first meeting that if she couldn't name any/all my ethnic background, what would make anyone else different in their guess? To this day I leave that box blank.
When I was in college, there were "black-only" fraternities. This would not have been tolerated if it were a question of "white-only" fraternities. Furthermore, the "black-only" fraternities would haze the heck out of their pledges. This was not at all tolerated by the administration for the other fraternities.
At some point, people need to start walking together as equals. This will not happen as long as some don't give up their bigotry and others stop claiming privileges as compensation for past ill-treatment.
To forgive White America...means that you have forgiven them for what they have done to this country and the souls of human beings who did not yearn or earn this ill treatment.
Never Forgive...just remember so that it NEVER happens again. And remind your children so that they never forget what can happen should they ever get comfortable or idel minded!
You say "Never Forgive...just remember so that it NEVER happens again. And remind your children so that they never forget what can happen should they ever get comfortable or idel minded!" ,,,, You said never forgive? Who are you speaking of? The people from over 150 years ago who enslaved blacks? Or are you just passing along the sins of the father to present day whites? None of whom had anything to do with slavery. Oh yes, racism is alive and well. You just proved it.
The same way White America has been able to thrive better off in this country because of thier fore-fathers from 150 years past is what I am talking about. Each generation passes the torch to the next...right!
I am pretty sure that If African Americans had ownership to what OUR fore-fathers labored for (unpaid labor) we would have an upper hand in this society...now wouldn't we?
Never Forget...that's right, because if you do...White America will swoop in create a system of slavery all over again...its' the nature of the White Man!
?? says "...its' the nature of the White Man!" ,,, Oh yes, another example of racism of still being alive and well in America today.
My friend is right, never forget, never forgive, it was not just the blacks that white were evil to. The indians, the chinese, the Mexicans and other whites, were your victims too. You are who you think you are, because of their resources and labor. Racism is about realizing the truth in yourself, not the other person or ideas. We are told to never forget hilter's nazi club.?
Thankyou for asking a question Ken, I often wonder why I need to be forgiven and pay for the ancestors of other people enslaving the ancestors of other people. They can't go back and ask for an apology and I can't ask an apology from a dead man who hurt my family, the difference is I have to get over my hurt, but they can expect me to pay for theirs forever.
P.S. Do you think any white president treated as Obama was in the State of the Union Message by that fool would have been allowed to continue sitting there? It was hate, and no one stool up and said shut up. I dont care what you think of him, he is our president.
NO ONE white or black came to his aide. I would have lost my job to have to opportunity to make a statement to the world about that. What do you think Black people go through. We go through this all the time. Evil, evil self hating man and women who think heaven is white. Heaven is bi-racial, mexican, Irab, hispanic, gay, lesiban, etc. and OH by the white 10% as of late. Any senator or congressman would have been honored for speaking up. But all of you b........s just sat there and let him go it alone. What great men and women we have in our senate – who are you representing? Remember the old saying "only by the grace of God goes me"
No one stood up in fear of losing their overly compensated bonus checks and the political perks to go along with it for being "poliitically correct"..what a JOKE!
What were you watching? That guy was booed at the time, roundly condemned later, and eventually forced to make a public apology. All for saying two words (You lie).
Then Mr. Wilson went on to raise money out of it. I do not call that an apology.
That will NEVER happen to a white president. You can only base that kind of idiocy on race. This current President has been poorly treated in this "america" only because of his skin tone. He will be re-elected and I hope the next President is hispanic, the next hispanic, etc etc etc An America with a diverse President is an America I prefer to live in.
I hope your next president is a four-way mix, transgender ,reconstructed lesbian who loves men and has no religion-still smokes pot and drinks Jack–this way all you bigoted rsholes would have something tangible to whine about.
So when did Obama stand up for George Bush or any of his other compeitors? Are we all now suppose to stand up for people who we don't havefaith in just because their skin is a certain colour?
I can relate, I found my uncle's death certificate, his brother claimed the body, my grand-mother's name was listed at mother, but she could not come forth because she passed for white even though they lived in a black community. I had heard stories about how my grand-mother would pretend the kids were not her children when out in public hard to accept but when I found the death certificate of my uncle I knew the stories were real. My aunts and uncles could pass for white but because they lived in a black community they never did.
I would love to know how some many here call themselves Christians when in fact, Christians – REAL Christians don't hate because of a persons skin color/race/religion/etc (they don't hate at all) So all on this post who are blaming and name calling, the one name you can't be called is Christian. Racist, prejudice, ignorant yes but not a Christian. Don Lemon wrote an article filled with truth and some of you want to turn it into something ugly.
You have to realize that it is "christianity" that disillusioned people on race issues. It is these very same "Christians" that as as missionaries in countries like South America and Africa that go over there "teaching' these people how to behave llike Christians.
Religion/Christianity is the same doctrine that has been used to manipulate people for personal and financial gain through the work and labor of others.
I wish I could be a fly on the wall for all these people who try to convince "others" on how to live moral "christian" like lifes.....I WOULD BE TOTALLY DISGUSTED!
Whoever differs between people and their rights based on race/ethnicity is not a follower of Christ. As simple as that. No matter what they call themselves. Why would anybody believe the self-definition of bigoted, chauvinistic haters? They are not Christians because they don't fit the description of Christians.
My husband are both from Louisiana and both from that culture. When our daughter was born in a military hospital in NC in the 60's a black nurse tried to give me a DARK skin baby since my baby was light as the lightest white nurse in the room. I knew she was doing it hatefully because when I said something she smiled. When my son was born 4 1/2 years later in BAMA I got same looks but no comments. But it was 70's . My husband and I laughed may times about the stories and told our children. We both said one day it will be on the other side. Black men making babies with white women. Now that I am in 60's and he is in his 70's with two beautiful educated children and two beautiful grands we saw it happened. Hail to the haters – it will never go back. So get use to it now that the shoe is on the other foot HOW DOES IT FEEL? And there is a camera every where so hangings can be on u-tube now and you will get caught. Yes I still have hate when I see the race mess in the news, but I lived to see a black man president and my husband worked for everything we have and will leave to the most beautiful family in this country. Dispite what we have to endure to get here, we never let whites beat us down and never let blacks tell us you will get hurt. We both spoke up for evil and we are here.....
Do you not see how much of a freaking hypocrite you are? Anyone who calls Obama a BLACK president is a bigot who supports the old, tired, INACCURATE one drop LIE. I don't care WHAT race you are. As a mixed person, it makes me sick when people ignorantly lump someone into one category. There are MILLIONS of us biracial and multiracial people of all mixes so get with the program. You are a racist.
Would you and your biracialness rather be clumped as White? Just wondering.
The old it only takes one drop rule...is more in use in the black community than any other group. I guess brain washing takes more than the generations that have passed on to correct itself. Never argue the point....let it be...know thyself.
No, DUMMY. I am biracial and have no qualms with that. Why is that so freaking difficult of a concept? A person can be biracial of russian and english, chinese and mexican, etc. It can be ANY mix and for someone to call themselves what they are NOT is downright insulting to their parents.
Okay..firmly stated. When you describe yourself to others in reference of your heritage do say I'm biracial or do you say....I'm Mexian, White, Russian, Creole or what?
I say biracial. I have always said biracial and will always say biracial. People move on and no one cares. The only people who have issues with that I have encounter for DECADES are black women. I wonder why?! O.o
Idiot -your president is mixed race not black -or r u blind as well as bigoted.
Why don't you all just call yourselves humans and get over it.
As long anyone is out there willing to label people by the color of their skin (or their gender or their height or their nationality) then we will have this issue. Tell the cops and reporters not to describe people as a "white" or "black" person. Tell statisticians and awards groups not to create categories like "the first black person who" (or "second female ever to").
And in truth, there are so many people in this country with "just one drop" in their bloodline, the whole notion of different 'races' should be discarded.
America really should embrace the ugly side of her history more. I say this not to tear us apart, but to bring us together. It's easy to look at a group of people and judge, but without the historic perspective, there is never understanding. I really like the line at the end "the divide isn't between blacks and whites, it's between racists and non-racists."
Stories of Don Lemon's grandmother are not uncommon within the black community. The black community is not solely defined by color, but also by the shared experiences of people descended (in some way) from the Transatlantic Slave Trade. However, I am surprised by Lemon's explanation of color and all of its pros and cons. My maternal grandmother and most of her ancestors were described as "very light", "mixed-looking", or "mulatto". We traced her lineage back to the 1740s and there not one white ancestor. Most of her ancestors were "mulatto". Many of them were descendants of free indentured white women who had children by "black" men. My grandmother's family isn't he only family like that. There are millions of African-Americans whose families originate in the Virginia, the Carolinas, Maryland who can trace their "light skin" ancestry back to Colonial indentured white servants. It is incorrect to say the light skin within the black community is a result of enslaved black women being raped by their white owners. It's also incorrect to say the light skin/dark skin conflict within the black community is solely shaped by an inhumane plantation culture. I also find it interesting the Lemon neglected to mention (maybe he doesn't know) that many of the lighter-skinned blacks of Louisiana are descendants of mixed-race free people of color who fled Haiti during the Haitian revolution. Some are descendants of a pre Civil War Louisiana culture that established blurry rules when it came to the blending of the races. Not every mixed-race, or light-skin person was a result of a knife-point violation. Again, Lemon's story about his grandmother is a real one and unacceptable, but to say light skin people are solely the result of knife-point plantation violations is misleading. It's much more complicated and layered.
Agreed. What century are we in?! This country is so retarded when it comes to not accepting us biracials or multracial people it makes me SICK. Canada and England have less issues with this. It doesn't help when self-hating morons like Halle Berry and Robin Thicke's girl ( forgot her name) stupidly call themselves just black when they are BIRACIAL. How dare they deny what they are! I bet you a MILLION DOLLARS that if Halle Berry said she was just white, black people would flip the frack out. But when its the OTHER WAY AROUND (equally racist) and call yourself BLACK, then they have no problems with it. I have encountered MORE RACISM from blacks than anyone else. They can be racist. Anyone can be.
My friend for me white is white, black is black, etc. I have known mix race poeple all my life(Iam 63). The people of the world recognize themselve to being a part of a group. Your situation is not unique to the world, its happened when a few people speak for everyone. They label people for their own benefit, (if there are any benefits). When I lived in South Africa in the early 1980's where racial laws and rule existed, one thing stood out the most to me. The mixed raced people were stuck in between all the different cultural worlds there. Here in America, we share the collective culture, however there are still all the other cultures, so it will never be easy. When you like yourself, its hard for anyone to not like you.
The two people that you speak of and many more have been told that they are considered black. This was/is the white man's law, not the black man. When you fill out an application for anything, do you see a box for biracial. I don't think so. So you and the rest of the people that think this can change at the snap of a finger are sadlly mistaking.
This is no different than brown haired, brown eyed, dark skinned, Mexican parents having a blonde haired, blue eyed baby. It is the nothing more than European that is coming out from when they raped the Indigenous Americans of that region back in the day.
Racism today in America is still alive and well and is perpetuated by people who insist on using race as a crutch or a stepping stone to get what they want. The most discriminated people group in our country today are not the blacks, but the Latino's.
Really? The most discriminated? At least Latinos can get married...
As a black man I will openly admit that I have seen more racism from other blacks than anyone else. They have completely turned it around and now don't accept mixed people OR whites. I have cousins who are biracial and I hear all sorts of racist comments from them. It makes me sick. We blacks are a broken people and don't do a dang thing to make it better.
I bet your NOT black...but I will go along with it, if it makes you feel better. If you are Black, I bet you have a White Woman and that is why you are indifferent.
Shame on you @Alan ( black man) for trying.
Can't fool us? Hehehehehehehe!
Alan, you're not black. Using "dang" doesn't make you sound more black. If you ever spoke to someone who was actually black, you'd know this.
Hey man, Black is Black. A Zulu is a Zulu,(a mixture of many different African tribes). A Basotho is a Basotho( the mixture of all the remaining African tribes scattered by the Zulu) Some blacks are scattered. Most Blacks are not scattered.
Franklin davis -you r a bufoon , if you knew anything about Africa you will realise that Zulu's are not a mixed tribe and that picking on a tiny corner of Africa does not make you smart especially when you cannot spell and do not know anything about tribal migrations accross the continent and the wars before white man got there-very few Americans see Africa as home-thank god-stay on your side of the sea we don't need your crappy debate
"accross" is misspelled. So you should think twice before you make fun of someone elses spelling...I am just saying...
yes I agree with what Becky said. for a long time even when taking test in school you could either mark black, white, hispanic or asian so I always marked black thats what my teachers told me to do because my dad was black. whites made the rule if you have even a little black you are all black lol. Now you can mark mixed race. I cannot wait until you no longer have to mark what race you are unless for medical reasons
Google the "Willie Lynch Letter"
After reading this....White America will know why Blacks, Latinos, and Indian Americans distrust you to the Fullest! White America simply canNOT be trusted. Their motives and intentions seem to always be vile in nature!
I have read the Willie Lynch Letter, and I will tell you that it is one of the most disgusting, sickening, and scariest letter I've ever read. It really all made sense after I read it. But I have to disagree with you when you say most white people are not to be trusted. There is always a huge majority who is going to suffer for the stupidity and evil-filled motives of a few. I think the real issue is that there is simply a lack of understanding for most white people why things are the way they are. As a result, both sides (Black and White) end up being hostile and defensive towards each other. Why? Again, because there is a lack of understanding!
Do your research. The Willie Lynch letter is a fraud. It is a often referenced piece of literature that has been repeatedly found to be fraud....start with this wikipedia article and keep researching. I'm not sure why it continues to have legs and people believing in its trash!
@TexasGurl...it is totally true. The letter may be false, but the methods are True as the Blue sky!
What is done in the dark pages of our History is begining to shine awarness onto a generation that is seeking information. Thank GOD for the internet. It helps bring information readily to a younger generation that may have forgotten their history...wehther it be good or bad!
It's interesting how much people will believe if it's what they want to believe. Like your 'whites are not to be trusted'. That's the height of racism right there. You assign a problem to a race, most likely not your own race.
@woodrow..I beilive because I live! Walk in the shoes of my unncles and grandfather in this country as a BLACK Man and come back and talk to me. I bet your story would be different.
You get over it....because I won't. When I stand up for myself...I am standing up for my relatives who could NOT!
@ ??: That is complete bull and you know it. Yes racism exists but you trying to whine and complain about yours AND mine ancestors being slaves as if that now impacts your ability to educate yourself and get a job is a total excuse. I can guarantee you that MOST in the black community use it as an excuse to stay in the ghettos. I see it EVERYDAY. No one is preventing them from going to a library to read. No one is hosing them down or calling dogs on them. This generation now has almost no excuse for their horrible behavior. As a black man myself, I don't use racism as a crutch or an excuse. Maybe it is time you stop looking at the melanin content of your skin and worry about they content of your character. Sound familiar?
For an interesting take on this from Spike Lee I suggest renting "School Daze". Back in the 80s I was the only white suitemate among six suitemates at the University of Alabama. My roomates invited me out one evening to a packed theater to see this movie (needless to say I was the only white person there!). It not only opened my eyes to political and cultural aspects that I had no idea existed among the Africian-American community, but it also created a great humbling display of "dirty laundry" from my friends which in some ways brought me closer to understanding them and how we all have unique mores and values that make us all part of the same messed up, but beautiful race – the human race! Now let's all go and do "da butt!" !!!!
Judge people by their character not what they look like. There are racists and good/bad people in every culture and ethnic group.
What I find interesting is that is you have one drop of black, you somehow identify 100% with black.
A lot of the rules created by the prejudiced white majority at the founding of this nation kinda stayed after black people were given rights. So this is not something that blacks created. It was decided to be this way by whites.
Stop presenting your opinions as if they were fact! What resources did you use to find these ridiculous statements of yours??????
Not all people that are mixed or have some black in them identify as black. I am mixed (50/50) and identify most with white culture because that is the culture I was raised in. However, I am not light enough to "pass" today and so most in the white community assume that I identify most with the black community. I may be their, "black friend" but they are not my "white friend". Just my friend. I have had a total of 2 "black" friends in my life and one was mixed like me. I have had countless Caucasian friends. It wasn't a personal choice of who to be friends with but a product of the community I was raised in. In an almost exclusively white community I became friends with white kids. It is a strange place to be. Torn between two cultures. Two ancestries. I look forward to the time when mixed races begin to have their own culture and there is no need to choose which race to acknowledge or relate to. I've seen mixed race culture improve and grow in my own lifetime and I'm only 25. In this way, I look forward to the future.
Girl most black people know many whites. but most white people do not know as many blacks. Believe it or not most black, indian, mexican, asians, whites, etc. are cool people. South Africa has a large mixed race society. Make for a cool vacation, but do not be surprise, by all the different cultures they follow.
In a poll from last April, almost half of all republicans in Mississippi said that interracial marriage should be illegal.
We have such a long way to go.
Gotta wonder what two rhednecks at the bar you talked to!
Mississippi is like a country all in its self. they have a entirely different way of thinking than the rest of the world unfortunately and would probably take either a alien landing, the coming of Christ or some other miracle for them to realize we are all human and all equal. we all have average or lazy, or hardworking, or intellectually intelligent or simple minded folks that make up our racial backgrounds. personally I think race is an outdated term because most of us are mixed up of a bunch of things unless we are from Africa and even then a lot of people are mixed raced
I think the different races have a right to want to maintain their race. A racist can want every body the same as themself, which will not happen. If the few people of this world, did not want to abuse others for their resources, and later self gradification. The people of this world would mostly be within the group of their ancestary. Racism was the tool of the modern epoch. It is so much fun when one travel in the world and learn about people from their own perspective.
Good... protect those innocent minorities from all that White Stupidity!
In the 1970s my mother dated a black man and our neighbors, for whom I regularly babysit, told me they didn't want my services anymore. When it was made clear to me why not, I asked them if they thought his skin color was going to rub off on me and by extension, on their children. I had never given anyone's skin color much thought until then, I had naively thought such things mattered only to ignorant Southerners. These people, self-righteous 'Christians', told me in no uncertain terms that God created different races for a reason and we were not to sully the purity of Jesus' bloodline. They did NOT like it much when I pointed out that Jesus, coming from the Middle East, probably had dark skin...
I am a ScotchAngloSpanFrenchGermanOkee American a.k.a White Southern Girl, or just your basic American. However your heart and mind perceives me. I appreciate the Opinion article because we in the United States are never allowed to discuss the truths we live with everyday unless they are provable and beyond the possibility of lawsuits. So we never make progress. It would be nice to have a forum to discuss the reality we live with in our country and a chance to solve the problems we face. If we had to label every post as OPINION it would be worth the effort.
This day is an acknowledgement of a Common Dream not fact reporting – So, telling undeniable facts is not all this country is made of. Something to think about :-)
I am sorry, but stop with all of the "AFRICAN-AMERICAN" talk. If you are BORN IN AMERICA you are AMERICAN. I come from European and Chinese ancestry and I do not go around calling myself German-American, Irish-American, Chinese-American...If you are born in a country, that is what you are. Yes, it can be in your roots, but you are not technically FROM THAT COUNTRY.
It's funny you say that because, only in America, are people of African origin referred to as "African American.". In any other country, we are simply "Americans." Yet we all are descended from Africa.
Being in America, people are free to call themselves whatever they like. If that bothers you, so be it. Carry your tales of woe to the "Irish Americans, Italian Americans," etc.
Well it sounds as if you have no ties to any of your culture and or traditions. That's your problem! Just because I was born in America does not mean I am just American. So I must disregard my parents nationality and how I was raised?! You got things confused. If it was only that simple! And if you have Asian ancestrry...I will assume you probably have some defining features. If thats the case...I hope you are FULLY aware when people see someone that looks like you they more than likely will ALWAYS associate you with being Asian or AT LEAST and and ITS BEST Asian-American. Something for you to think about sweetie. :)
I disagree with you. I am a woman of African descent born in America. If I want to call myself an American, because I'm obviously black, I don't see the issue with it. This doesn't mean that I dissasociate myself from my heritage. Far from it. I embrace my African and American heritage, but I don't necessarily feel the need to further identify myself as an African American, particularly when I visit another country where I am seen as American. Anyone can look at me and see that I am of African heritage. Perhaps if I were from the West Indies or South America, it would be a different story.
You picked the wrong place to make your point. I am an ethnic who came to the US as a child and I am an American citizen. You can call yourself whatever you want but the reality is that you are judged by your skin color. However, I am optimistic from observing my children and their generation. The barrier, albeit slowly, is coming down.
Racism is alive and well, and I couldn't give a rat's ass!
I'm mixed race and I don't play "favorites": I accept those who accept me...period...The rest can go to hell.
I'm too busy living and enjoying life...If you're not, then you should try it!
You might like it!
I've never understood the identification of a person who is to all appearances white, as "black," but then I'm white and not from the South (not young, though...born in the 1950s). I grew up in a very Jewish area (I'm not) and I remember there was some underlying awareness among Jewish families of who in the Jewish community had non-Jewish blood. The reasons behind that were different from the color awareness of the black community, but just as ridiculous. We are all descended from a small genetic pool. We are all mutts.
I was abused as a kid by an Indigenous man in every way, I got no justice and I had to just "get over it" and I have had a great life despite him because I chose to. You can get over abuse too like I did and get the best revenge ever (you didn't die or go away like they wanted). Think positive folks, not victim.
Ok, now what the @#$! is the point of this story? It is 2012, would you forget it and move on already?
Get over it? Look at the presidential election. If there was ever an example that America is not "over it", the election would be it. For far too many Americans, a black president is the worst thing that could have happened. It started on day 1. The color of his skin, before he even did (or didn't) do anything in office was the issue. It is time for America to "get over it". Don't you think there are other things to deal with?
I will never forget my mothers past or my peoples history in the crazy place they call American, this planet belongs to God. He will find that Americans History has been fill with hatred an oppression. God will judge American one day, "Let Justice roll down like the mighty Mississippi River ". "I have a Dream" too-2012 A.D.
No. Wrong. Obama is half black half white. Did you miss that memo?
Why are you fuming with all the stinky white foam drooping out of your month like some filthy trailer park pig? Have you even heard of teeth paste and brush to get rid of your stinky foamy mouth?
We're just cranking our engines. Make sure you're not standing in our way or traveling path. You have some nerves! As people, we thought you and your irks have moved on; on race until your racists GOPer's, teabaggars and Presidential candidates wanted to re-set the clock of progress on race in America back to the 18th Century.
This is a typical response of someone with white skin! Who'd want to be constantly reminded about some flaw in their genetic history? It's ok, blacks are no blaming you...only recognizing a portion of their culture! Let them have their day! You'll be okay!!!
Would you dare to tell the jews to "get over" the holocaust? Racism isn't discussed enough and to an extent I fault Black people... those who fear what their white "friends" may think of them. Young children today don't even know a fraction of what they should know about race relations because their parents don't teach them. This will never be taught in our hallowed class rooms.
There are many times I am tempted to tell the Jews to "get over" the Holocaust, especially when they use it to justify their terrorism and bullying. But I see your point. We should always remember the horrors of human bondage, how this country became established thanks to the efforts of slavery, and how far – or not – we have come since the Civil War.
The Jews did "get over" the holocaust! How many times have you heard a Jew complain about their socioeconomic status because of the holocaust?!?!?!
when i say "move on", I meant it for the good, I hope you understand that. Yes America has had its share of ugly past and am not trying to supress it coz it should not. But the only way to move on is to do just that, "move on"! Racism will never end in America as long as we keep living in the past, hence my mention of 2012! God forbid when something terrible happens in someone's life, do they mourn foreover ? No !! guess what, they "move on". I honestly have friends of almost every race and we have such a great time, I have not thought once about their past or where they came from. How is it going to matter anyway where they come from ? It is what they are "today" that matters. If we don't "move on" and when I say that I mean stop discussing and crying about our past, I bet Racism will never end in America and I gaurantee our great-grand children will still be discussing this topic!! Do we still talk about the dark ages in Europe ? We don't! sometimes it makes me wonder what is it about "Racism in America" that people just can't let go off. And until we let go off that, yes Racism will be alive in America. There will always be ppl of every race that will racist, who cares about them, let them stay in their darkness. Move on, enjoy life to the best of ur abilities and u wont be wasting your time talkign about race! And by the way, am White and I think White just happens to be my skin color just like your might black, yellow, red or white! Please, "MOVE ON" !!!
I- I watch the movie the HELP last night for the first time, I must say I cried, It brought back memories of when I was a little girl growing up in Mississippi. My mother work in a restaurant, but we had to go into she her threw the back door. Times have changed, but I must say the hearts of people have not. Yet they claim to no God. I they knew God they would know that we were all created equal...with red blood. God help us all!
Very good article and SO true. I've read books about blacks "passing" and some never to make contact with the family again. Yes, racism is still alive and kicking all across this country and it is alive and kicking in AA society too. My mother is white (british) and dad black (st. lucian), I was NEVER raised to be color conscious as some of my friends were. Looking back, growing up, I would hear things like "she/he is too dark" or "she/he think they are cute cause they are light". At the time, I really didn't understand, but as I grew up I realized what it was about. With that being said, we as a people of many hues must learn to love and accept ourselves first and foremost.
I agree. I have gotten more dirty looks and racist remarks from self-hating bitter black women than anyone else EVER. I walk around with a smile on my face and try to be humble but it doesn't matter. They will always hate you because you have the soft flowing mixed-race hair, lighter skin, and softer features that the media always features and pawns them off as 'black women' when it is obvious to everyone they are mixed race. I am done wiith their insecurities. I have friends of all races including one or two black women that are NOT racist but all the others I encounter have major chips on the shoulders. Everyone knows this. I don't have time for their stupidity.
Please don't generalized based on your personal experiences. You have chosen to highlight all the positives that you do, but yet your attempts are frowned upon. As a BLACK WOMAN living in a very racist country, I laugh every time I hear similair statements. Take a deeper look and try to really figure out, why YOUr getting those response. Look at how you described yourself~ enought said.
Racist, Try Again!
Non-FACT! This is your usual trailer park talking points and BS which racists irks have been programmed to say in response!
I'll give you a twist. I happen to know of a gentleman who is from Louisiana and is very particular to note that he is mulatto. In the culture where he grew up, mulattoes only married other mulattoes or whites. Needless to say, he is rather light-skinned and he is married to a white woman, so their children are as well. I think it's an interesting commentary that an entire group of people felt the need to breed the black out of their culture, if I may be excused for phrasing it that way. I don't even know if mulatto is a politically correct term any more. But he used it and I can't think of another word that conveys the same meaning. So I apologize if I offended anyone with it's use. It is the word he used.
Biracial or multiracial are terms that are considered acceptable these days. Mulatto is an old school term, like quadroon and octaroon that have gone by the wayside. Some folks' terminology, like the person you mentioned, hasn't caught up to the current times. Or maybe he just prefers that term, but it will get him looked at sideways in some circles.
hmmm thank god i live in the caribbean. i really don't think i could forgive anybody for calling me a racist if i point out the lingering embers of racism (Like they seem to do in the states).
YOU GO DON LEMMON!!! Its still out there and you should continue to point it out. hopefully most of racists who made ignorant comments would die of in a couple of years and leave civilised society be.
I was born in Baton Rouge Louisiana in 1951, so i remember the day MLK was shot. i have recently moved from Livingston Parish where rebels flags are flown not to honor any past history but to send a message that blacks aren't welcomed. I moved to St. Mary Parish where the population is about half and half. i am living for the first time in my life in a very mixed neighborhood, by choice. I'm glad i did. For the first time in my life i realize what it means to be born Black. The white aquaintances i've made are sure any crime committed is done so by blacks. But as it turns out the recent round of buglaries were committed by white teens from well to do families. The body that was found in a ice chest wasn't the result of a black drug gang. A white man has been arrested. But the next time a crime is committed the presumption will be that it was a black crime.
The truth is that color has nothing to do with crime. Proverty, education and opportunity do. Hate has nothing to do with color...fear does. What white men fear most in black men is the evil they imagine in their own minds. They are scared to death that a black man may be thinking the very same thing they are thinking about the white woman that just walked past them on the street.
Regardless, I still will not be caught dead in a black neighborhood and many agree with me. I am not white by the way so don't even try it. But I am not stupid either. Yes all races commit crimes. White commit crimes via government and business and blacks & latinos commit crimes via the streets and neighborhoods. I will take my chances in a white neighborhood thank you very much.
I lived in a black neighborhood in Oakland, California for a year as one of about 7 white people on that block (all living in duplexes owned by the same white man...hmmm). Even though I saw crack deals go down at the apartments behind mine and regularly heard gunfire, I actually felt safe enough to walk down the street at night (couldn't always park in front of my duplex on weekend nights) when I would get home from work. When I later related this to a black friend, his response was, "hell yeah you were safe. Attacking a white woman who wasn't a 'ho would have brought the man down on them and that was the LAST thing any of the drug dealers wanted to do." I always thought it had as much to do with the fact that the criminal element was actually only a fraction of the folks in the neighborhood and that most of my neighbors were hard-working folks who took a lot of pride in their homes and in themselves. I don't know. What I do know for certain is that as a native Texan who grew up in an all-white suburban neighborhood, living in Oakland was the best education I ever got. Granted, I came into it without as much of the racist baggage as most of my childhood friends had (Underdog WAS one of my favorite cartoons as a kid so I always had empathy for the oppressed), but it forced me to put into practice the values I had developed previously in what had essentially been a vacuum.
Let's, your ignorance is astounding. Your generalizations and stereotypes are blanket and harmful. At least be open enough to educate yourself about the facts – not your version of the facts. I guess you think more black people are on welfare than whites or Latinos. Wrong, as more whites receive government aid in benefit programs than blacks. Also, are you unaware that white people commit violent crimes? Their transgressions are not all white collar and non-violent. Further, I live in a neighborhood undergoing revitalization and have black and white neighbors, yet mostly black. It's a peaceful neighborhood and we even have a neighborhood watch program. Several of my neighbors sit out on their porch in the evening. What you see on TV and film with folks dodging bullets is not the case everywhere. SMH.
If color has nothing to do with crime then why do blacks have the highest population ratio percentage out of any race in American prisons!?!?!?
Thank you so much! Your comments are the best I've read all year!
Interesting article. A lot of truth in it. But I believe we all need to be proud of our heritage. Not just blacks, mexicans, or whatever. My ancestors came here 5 generations ago. I still follow a few of the traditions but , I am an American. That is now my heritage, my children's and my grandchildrens.
There's racism everywhere. Black people against white people, white people against black people, both races against hispanics. Everyone needs to get the hell over it. It's in the past. And if someone doesn't like a certain group of people, leave them be. Why does everyone need to get involved. And as far as I'm concerned, black people brought slavery down upon themselves, due to the fact that the first legal decision about slavery was when a BLACK man claimed another BLACK man as his slave. Stop trying to blame your idiocy on your ancestors. Get over it and live your life instead of letting something you didn't even go through hold you back. Get a job, go to college, and prove to everyone else that there's no reason to discriminate. No one will change their mind if you stay in the stereotype people have formed. Break out of it and make them look stupid. Stop whining and not doing anything about it.
I'm not sure if there's racism everywhere but there sure is plenty in your rant !
Mike, I'm not racist. I just hate the people want to let themselves get bogged down by racism, and using that to excuse their behavior, instead of stepping up and showing that they're not the stereotypical representative of their race. I want to see more black people succeed, to show that they're not pants-dragging, gun-toting, welfare-dependent people, like most people think they are. I'm from Georgia, sir. I know more than anyone else that there is an abundance of racism. But, I rarely see anybody try to prove the stereotype wrong. And if you're going to complain about what people are saying about you, then you should be making damn sure that what they're saying isn't true, or you're going to make yourself look like an ass, and they're going to look right. Just step up, and do something to make yourself proud. Stop whining. And you call my rant racist? That's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and coddle people's widdle feelings just because this is a sore and touchy subject. Screw that. Grow up.
Mike you miss the point big time. Yor are exactly what this man is talking about. Focus to the future and leave the past behind. You obviously live in the past.
Seems to me you've already bought into the stereotype.....clown.
Signed: Upper Middle-Classed Black Man with Multiple Gradute Degrees.
I probably do buy into the stereotype. I honestly could care less about anyone besides my family and friends. I know educated people, and when I'm around them, its not a race thing, it's an intelligence thing. Everyone buys into stereotypes. And sir, why do you feel the need to bring up your race when you bring up your achievements? Tell me that.
I bring up my race and accomplishments for some of the same reasons you presume to tell Black people how to act.
Think on that, if you can manage to wrap your mind around it.
Your comments made my day! Thanks!
And your response to Mike = one big time cop-out!!!
Wow...get over ourselves and those who hate will say "okay they went to school, got a job – then I must be wrong to discriminate and hate them" – rose colored glasses are just as dangerous as the racist. We have a President and First Lady who are Harvard and Princeton educated, they were both employed prior to their current "jobs" and yet one is depicted as a monkey and witch doctor with a bone in his nose and the other is "an angry black woman" or insulted by a major publication .....according to you they did what was necessary to stop the racism and "get over themselves"...it would be great to get over ourselves but there are those who need to let go of their hatred too.
I didn't say that being educated and successful would stop racism. I said, prove them wrong. I don't understand why people are getting so upset over this. My opinions are my opinions, and that's that. You can't possibly make me feel like I'm in the wrong with how I feel. So, call me a clown, a racist, and whatever else you please. I do not care. As unpleaseant as you think my ideals are, they are mine, and I'm allowed to think what I wish. Not what other people say are wrong or right. I'm not going to change my mind just because close-minded people take offense. People wouldn't be so uptight about this issue if it wasn't made out to be a big issue. There's been racism before America, and there will always be racism. You don't have to buy into it, defend it, or attack it. Live your life, surround yourself around people you want to be around, no matter what color. But don't play the race card.
Every president and every first lady in history has been depicted in a mocking and bad light by cartoonists...color has nothing to do with it...Bush has been depicted as a monkey many many times..
you are so stupid and funny
Wtb, I am sure there are many black people who have gotten over it. Of course, the problem is that there are a lot of white people who *haven't* gotten over it. In case you haven't noticed the Klan still exists, skinheads still exist, discrimination still exists, the subtle racism that impacts every black person, such as being pulled over for 'driving while black', still exists. How are black people really supposed to get over it when significant portions of white society isn't ready to move on?
What do you mean Black people brought slavery on themselves? What history book are you reading, thats if you can read? Africans may have sold their enemies to the Europeans, but they didn't force the Europeans to treat the Africans as property. They didn't force the Europeans or American whites to kill them at will. They certainly didn't force American whites to treat Black Americans as subjects to be exploited, experimented on or discriminated against. No they came up with that on their own. Blacks didn't put themselves in this predicament, it was put on us. Despite that we still thrive. A majority of the complaints that we have are valid, but still we thrive. I wish you could be Black for a while, just to see what we have had to deal with.
Thrive?.....where in prison?!?!?!?
Well, if you want to get technical, based on the Mitochondrial Eve hypothesis, everyone is black.
I could NOT fathom the thought of being black.
And that's part of the problem – no empathy for your fellow human beings. Face it my friend, we all come from the same root stock. Every single race you see today came from a single group of early humans that spread out and colonized the planet.
and me being white stupid
Of course you couldn't, George.....of course you couldn't.
Check you DNA, Texas shoe wax buddy.
Your ancestors originated from Africa; the Continent of 1st Adam unless you consider yourself a UFO dwelling amongst normal human beings. Also what color is your heart and blood?
You wanna take a hike and disappear to where you came from?
I agree with you but we also have to keep in mind that the same kinds of bigotry and racism our grandparents experienced in the 1950's and 60's are still prevalent in our society today. Yes we can vote and we are no longer subjected to racial segregation, but just a few months ago, several southern states were resorting to Jim Crow practices by passing legislation requiring its citicens to present voter registration ID's to be able to vote. That called Jim Crow!
In 1981 the white souther mother of First Lady Michelle Obama's white college roommate at Princeton University threatened to pull her daughter from the university because in her words, the university was wrong in rooming her daughter with a black woman and she stated that it was wrong for the races to mix and that the university should have known better. No, that wasn't in the 1950's or 60's but here in the 20th century in America. Let's face it, many of us are still experiencing bigotry and racism by whites in America even here in the 21st century just like our ancestors and grandparents experienced it in the past.
What is wrong with requiring ID? Times have changed since Jim Crow. You need ID to get a job, drive a car, collect welfare....why not to vote? Because of the lack of ID being required over 900 dead people( identified so far and still being investigated) voted in SC in the last presidential election....I wonder how many zombies made it to the poll throughout the nation????
The 1950's and 60's were in the 20th century Einstein!
Fascinating, informative article. I grew up in a northern state, though my father was from the South. Our family surname is not all that common and I have found out through the years that there are perhaps as many Black families with the same last name as White families. The family tree on my father’s side is not too extensive, unfortunately. I would love to find out more about his family and the possibility of having Black relatives. Maybe there are “drops” in my family that have yet to be discovered or uncovered; maybe I have one of those drops. In any event, I embrace all my unknown relatives.
If you go ther ancestry.com website and pay in advance for a dna test, you can find out quite a bit of information regarding your racial make-up. A woman'e dna is always through her mother, but a blood-related male can receive information from the father's side. Both test will tell you your ethnic make-up. I did it two years ago and was very pleased with the results.
Blondie, thank you for the ancestry.com tip. I definitely will check it out.
You can see the racism is the authors tone. He harbours racist thoughts and CNN lets him on MLK day. People like Mr. Lemon are what divides society, but he gets away with it because hes black.
Don't tell me what I can see. Maybe you see it. I see him as telling the truth about his family. I see you as defensive.
Reporting history accurately is not racism. And your response is what shows hatred, not the article.
Mr. Lemon is using the media to make reference to how people feel today. Thank God he is using the media and not a rope tied from a tree....to make his point.
I like the guy!
Really? All he is doing is reporting historical fact because history has a way of repeating itself. This is his family's personal story. How could that possibly be any of YOUR business to judge?
You are a racist idiot!
Pointing out the racism (past and present) in society doesn't make him a racist.
I'm a very big white man, and I for the life of me, cannot see what you are referring to, you racist pig.
Wow, Hatred.....you choose your 'name' well.
@Hatred; are you looking yourself in the mirror?
The last time we checked, we normal people didn't hear you complaining or whining when your racists GOP, teabaggars and Presidential candidates started insulting Black folks and the poor for no probable cause. Where the heck were you? Hiding in your trailer park wooden home in mute silence? Your irks and race are the ones dividing this country. At least be honest about it for once.
Need I say more?
What's great about America is that we're a nation rich in diversity and we're the most diverse society in the world, represented by every nationality and racial and ethnic cultures of the world. Yet, what is sad is that our diversity seems to be our flaw and weakest because three hundred years later, we seem not to be able to find commong ground to love, honor and respect our neighbor's enthic, racial and religious differences. There's a saying we're one nation under God, bounded by a common thread which to live the American Dream but I'm always mindful of that other phrase, united we stand, divided we fall. And I'm very mindful that we as a nation are only as strong as our weakest link and I belive that if we continue to take for granted the parts that make us whole as a nation, then one day we make wake up and discover that our democracy has vanished because of our bigotry, hatred, complacency and stupidy.
You pepole fail to realize that AFrican American Women were just able to legally vote back in the 1960's.....not that long ago! It has not been that long ago since slavery with the physical chains of bondage. Modern times is more of a mental slavery that Blacks have to deal with, which is worse.
Some of our grandparents are still alive from the civil rights era....therefore, we still have to live this ugly disease called Racism because still today we still have to look at OUR grandparents and see what it has done to them. So don't expect for us to GET OVER IT!
You want to be equal as long as it gives you special rights. Only true African Americans are those that hold dual citizenship. I only know a handful of true African Americans. The rest are just Americans nothing more nothing less. Stop acting like you are special, you aren't. Native Indians lost a lot more that you.
We never itended to be Victims...White America put us in this position. And luckily through faith we graciously defeated you with our own ingenuity and talents...that's why we have our 1st Black President.
It was White America that trumped up the RACE CARD for hundreds of years and this is the residual effect of your greed and selfishness.
You are as wrong as 2 left shoes. Black people do not want special rights, We just want America to live up to it's creed. You don't know any African-Americans, as least by your ill-defined definition.
I love how the black people commenting about racism make racist comments themselves by calling Obama our first black president. Are you stupid? FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME: HE IS NOT OUR FIRST HALF BLACK PRESIDENT!!! He is biracial you dummies. By calling him BLACK, your are agreeing with old racist lies that are inaccurate and stupid. Unbelievable.
The only african-americans are those that were born in africa and emigrated here. PERIOD. There is no ifs, and's, or but's, about it. That is a 100% fact. Black people are black americans. If you cannot see that, then you need to seriously educate yourself.
Ignorance Abounds, your ignorance is amazing. We're talking about America here, the good ol' USA. In this country, President Obama is considered a black man because he looks like a black man. You are what you look like in this colorstruck society. Halle Berry has a white mother yet in this society, she's considered black because she looks black. Nobody gives a darn that the President has a white mother, especially white people. Why do you think that much of the hatred and criticism directed at him is race-related? One black parent is enough to label a person black, no matter how light they may be, in this country that was built on racial discrimination. You are so out of touch about race matters it's simply mind boggling.
Your the one that's out of touch. So what your saying is that because the prevalent thought is that "you are what you look like" despite your ancestral history we should just lay down and say "Obama is black" despite this only being a half truth?!?!. Well 300 years ago the prevalent thought was that slavery was acceptable. Imagine if Abraham Lincoln followed your logic? You wouldn't have the freedom to be commenting on this blog!!!!!!!!
You're exactly right. It's depressing that most whites can't see that.
That was a response to GG, not CANT. CANT, you're wrong. Read what she said again. It hasn't been that long since the Civil Rights movement. Most still remember their grandparents telling stories of being violently repressed. Why roll your eyes and act like that isn't the truth?
Its people like you that keep racism alive! Get over yourselves for heaven's sake! You peole scream racism because it gets you what you want and I'm tired of it!
You know what I'm tired of,George?
I'm tired of white people who refer to black people as..."You People".....
Wow. I think the name "George" from Dallas, Texas and the admonishment to ignore the history of racism says it all. Makes you uncomfortable, huh?
The new racism is racialism. Racialism is when people who have drawn political power from accusing others of being racist keep racism alive by continuing to blame the failure white liberals on others - in the age of Barack Obama.
CNN is the racialist channel. They report. You decide not to watch.
Excellent story, Lemon, it's about time to open the discussion on the "one drop rule" and to discuss how many whites in America have ancestors that are indeed African, despite their hatred for blacks. I plan to print this story and share it for Black History month with my guest. We will continue to tell the true history of the culture of America. Thanks again.
"many whites in America have ancestors that are indeed African, despite their hatred for blacks"
You think CNN is beating the race drums too much? Think bigotry and racism doesn't exist in America anymore, especially here in the 21st century? Many of you rightwing conservatives say you dislike President Obama because of his domestic policies as you call him socialist and communist, etc. However, if your hate and dislike for the President is due to his domestic policies, then how does that explain a historic black church being burnt to the ground on the night the President was elected to office and way before he implemented his political agenda? So is the bigotry and hate we are seeing today really motivated by the President's political agenda or rather because of the color of his skin? So who is really the racist in America today? Who is really beating the race drums?
And why does the Tea Party re-surface on the political scene almost one hundred years later when America elects its first African-American President? Why has the Tea Party resurface to implement their divisive and hateful agenda? And why is the First Lady Michelle Obama constantly being singled out and reducuiled and scrutinized by the rightwing base and media when she doesn't even play a part in this administration's political agenda? And why is President Obama always being called Muslim and socialist and communist and half breed and so on? And what has Muslim Americans done to you people to hate them so much? And whay makes you people think you're better than the reest of America?
Let's face it, racism is very alive and present in America here is the 21st century and black President or not, I agreed with Martin Luther king III in that we still have a long way to go because sadly to say, here in the 21st century we are still an America very much driven and divided by blatant and outrageous bigotry and racism, religion and skin color.
You watch way too much CNN. Probably the Mr. Ed show, too.
What about the hundreds of thousands of moderates who voted for Obama and changed parties and voted Republican in the 2010 mid terms?
I suppose they're all racists, too?
Face it, Mr. KKK - or whoever you are - people aren't opposed to Obama because of the color of his skin. They're opposed to his political leanings, which, for most of us, are way too far left of center.
The Ed Show isn't on CNN........
Keep telling yourself that you are not racist, and you may convince yourself and even some dumb black folks that you are not. Just because you voted for Obama. does not make you blind to color, and it has nothing to do with being Republican (or Democrat), but with making use of all the advantages every day that being white bestows upon you, like not being molested by the police, or being treated like a criminal because of your skin color, or dealing with the almost daily barrage of racist comments. or looks, from ignorant white folks. Keep telling yourself the feel-good lie that racism is dead. White folks who like to pretend that racism doesn't exist just because we have a black President are just delusional.
If that is the case, why is he depicted as a monkey, or in white face by so many of those teabaggers you seem to indicate are race blind? Why did so many mainstream Republicans spend so much time denying that he was born in the United States? If it is not about race why did the Republicans make it race related?
I grew up on the West Coast, and had no clear understanding of what race issues still existed in this country until I moved to North Carolina twelve years ago. The article underscores what I've had to learn the hard way; hatred of the "other" and fear of losing one's own elevated status have divided us into eternity. There doesn't seem to be a way through this maze, either. Until everyone is willing to give up their position entirely and start over from scratch, we will live in a society grwon from the seeds of division. I'm sorry as a white person to have to defend myself constantly from the slings and arrows of attack based solely on the color of my skin and not the content of my character.
I agree! I to moved to North Carolina from the Midwest and I can tell you that they call it the "Dirty South" for a reason. The South claims ownership to racial divide. It is here in the South where hatred of the human race manifested to a different level. My grandparents moved from the South back in the early 1920's for a better llife for their kids in the Midwest at that time.
The lingering images of racism still do exist here and you can feel it. Thank God I educated myself enough to know when someone is trying to play the inferior race card with me. When I sense this race card being played, I immediately amp up and let thim know that I DO NOT play that game!
I live in the deep south, too, and the only racism I see is black versus Hispanic.
Underscoreman, the South Bronx does not qualify as the deep South. If you live the 'real' south all I can say is the being ignorant of racism doesn't make it any less real. Why not talk to some black person you know about what it's like being black where you live? If you can listen with an open mind you may be surprised.
Racism is a waste of time and discussion. It creates animosity when it is read or heard aloud.
We are all racist. Any differentiation in physical characteristics, behavior, thought processes, preference or tastes will always result in opposing views.
It is arrogance that turns it to hatred.
You is stupid. You should have copywrited that s hit. I am using your verbatim words as a mantra. Baby you hit the nail on the head.
Okay so, what, do nothing? Is that your approach, recognize it and keep it moving? Race is an uncomfortable, emotional topic that perhaps the majority of whites would rather give a wide berth to, or pretend that elephant in the room isn't even there. Heck, plenty of black people don't want to discuss it, either. As a woman of color who experiences racism on a regular basis, whether overt or covert, it's not acceptable to do nothing.
It is amazing to me, actually no disgusting is the correct adjective, how you can say, practically in every freaking post, how racism is so abundant in America yet in these same posts you inject your own racist generalizations about "white America"!!!!!!! Seems as if a certain black American female has her own hypocritical racist agenda to promote!!! Disgusting! Truly and utterly disgusting!!!!
What about the Native Americans. How come we never hear them bringing up the fact that white man treated them horrible. They had it far worst and yet the racism crap still keeps coming up. Seriously move on!!!! I am not racist period, but when it keeps being brought up it all the time it might make it easy to switch.
Make you switch. Really. I don't think you have far to go...
When is the last time you spoke to a Native American and while not discounting their plight, how do you figure they had it worse? They were never made into slaves, they were massacred and slaughtered barbarically and then left alone. They were then given reservations where they could limit their contact with the white man as much as they saw fit. Black people were brought here against their will, made to work for the white man with no compensation. They were property for years and even after slavery was over, they had to deal with Jim Crow and there are vestiges of that still. The reason it won't go away and the reason it continues to come up is because people who wish to turn a blind eye and pretend that all should be ok have a tendency to frame the discussion as being about a bunch of people who don't want to take responsibility for their own lives. While that couldn't be further from the truth, black people are still a minority and don't have the luxury of setting the terms. You should also remember that slavery and its after-effects was not so long ago. Family trees are painful because of what you could find. When you are scared to look back and your way forward is often controlled by the same set of people that make you afraid to look back, you can begin to lose hope as a people. Until you can understand that, until you can be honest with yourself, you should just shut up on the subject.
All of the above is not an excuse, it’s an explanation into how it feels for some. For those who say racism no longer exists and that black people are just sensitive and need to “get over it”, I can only say you are lucky to never have been black. When you are put out of a supermarket for being black (happened to me in 96 in Arkansas) or not given the benefit of the doubt simply because of the color of your skin, you start to feel bad. And then when you have a bunch of people who have no idea what they are talking about tell you to “get over it”, you start to get angry. And when it continues to happen, anger turns to other things. Lots of people cite statistics as back-up for their argument, but they ignore the fact that the majority of people on welfare are white and not just because there are more of you, most property crime is committed by white people, most rapes are committed by white people, etc. Blacks disproportionately make up the prison population and you would think there is no argument for that until you look into the crimes they’ve committed and the sentences they’ve received. Blacks receive harsher sentences for the same crimes committed by whites who get a lower penalty. So of course there’d be more there, not because blacks commit more crimes, but because they are there for longer periods. I’m not sure why I felt the need to comment today as I normally don’t, but you’ve read these message boards and you see how they devolve on a regular basis to disgusting comments directed at the black race. Your ignorance for some reason moved me to speak.
If you don't think Native Americans were treated badly, go to a reservation and then, let us know how they're all doing. Do some research before you start talking.
And you call yourself a human being
Switch from being "Human" to being a racist because history is discussed?
As a white woman from the deep south, Texas, I have seen this first hand. It isn't pretty, it isn't nice. As I am old enough to not to have seen the segeration first hand, I have seen the after effects. I am fourth years old. I went to school on a segerated buss, we passed through many "black" settlements, but we couldn'd pick them up, they had a different buss. In my lifetime I have hidded people in my home from the KKK because they happened to be visiting in the wrong neighbor hood after dark. And even in this day and age, in a time of vast differences, this "rule" so to speak is alive and well and being passed down to the next generation. So stop and think about what you say in your own home, because your kids are always listening.
i agree that things were bad when we were kids, but i think people are tired of that now and actually look for a little color in their skin. its attractive. maybe older people learned that somewhere, but i don't see our kids being that way (if they make it past the gang recruiting part in junior high and high school). its still out there (in theory), but seems like most people can rationalize something smarter in real life.
The other thing is...that's more of a reflection on them than you, right? Don't get hung up on skin color.
Somebody tell Fitty Cent that his kids are listening, too.
That is, if he's actually involved in their upbringing.
Jeannette, thanks for speaking up! Please take some time to see the movie The Help and invite some of your friends over. I think everyone should see this movie and maybe- just maybe it will bring their darkness to light. The Earth could use more people like u and the young reporter that stared in this movie. My God bless u ! 2011 A.D.
Why can't a history article just be a history article? Why does everyone have to bash this? Would you find it more interesting if someone said.. Oh.. this is how kids get freckles handed down, it's from the Irish. Good Lord People!
I find it quite interesting myself (BTW white). Mr Lemon was generous with the wording "the joke is often that there must be a "dark" person somewhere in the family tree" we all know that is not the wording people have used in the past.
My parents have long joked that I'm not my father's child. Both have stick straight hair, as does my brother...yet my hair is wavy and often frizzy. While looking at the two of us, there's no doubt I'm my father's daughter, I have often wondered what lurks in our family tree. Interesting article for those of us out there who wonder about this very subject.....
Omg could CNN try for one week to not have a race related story. Just for one week. Then the story I would like to read is a new article about the hate filled sermons of Jeremiah Wright, the hate filled, rage fueled antti semitic comments, or an in depth article about the rampant racism blacks have towards Jews, whites, Asians and Hispanics. Is there any, any, and I do mean any, group of people blacks are not mad at, blaming for their cultural challenges? Even down to the level of their varying skin tones? This is like a bad article in a 1970's Jet Magazine. Tired, dated and ridiculously aimed at a particular demographic.
Really bugs you that other people's history matters as well? Miss the days when the history books were written strictly from the white majority's point of view?
Well, get over it.
Personally I enjoyed a bit of Mr. Lemon's own personal history. He lived it, after all. How do we start to understand each other without stories like this? And to fix those things that are wrong?
Blake, no matter how much you want to hide your head in the sand, it's here and in your face like it or not. Just as an OBTW, blacks arent the only ones who are complaining about the wasted time many whites (note I didnt say all whites) of the past AND current have done to destroy other races. Google articles about Asian immigrants WRT Asians and the railroad, Asians and WWII camps and "Whitewashing" in Asian cultures. Google the Hispanic historical perspective on SouthWest America and how it was purchased, or better yet, google about what hispanics are teaching in the state of Arizona to its young. Even better, why dont you google the STD experiments that occured right here in the US on its minority population.... Ask the Indians what they think. I bet you want me to stop Blake huh...and I do want to stop, when "IT" stops.. and that "IT" is people like you and Jermimiah Wright, acknowleging their part in dirtying the American fabric and then professing that you will do your part to clean it up...
Whites don't have to destroy Black people and their nations. They do a great job of killing each other by themselves (ie African nations forcing young boys to join rebel armies or have their arms chopped off with a machete; black American inner city youths killing each other over the color of the handkerchief hanging out of their back pockets)
Blake, I'll bet you claim to be a christian too. Nice.
Blake, I don't like Faux News.....so I don't read Faux News.
Now.....if you don't like CNN, why do yo read CNN?
Blake is correct actually. CNN is all about controversy, made up or real. They like to stir the racial pot and keep it going. They are a disgrace to true journalism and this is not just in the arena race issues. Yes, don't forget history. But move on with your lives people. Yes, I am black but I don't use racism for an excuse like so many other black people I know DO.
Get over it, Blake, its a whole new world. Accept change.
Still talking about Rev. Wright. Rev. Wright repeated something in one of his sermons that was said by someone at a different time, and you and some people think this is something that he preached every sunday. You and the rest of the people who believe that Rev. Wright preached this way every sunday for 20yrs or more, need to find out what was preached every sunday. I'm sure you all will look like a bunch of fools.
And what is that demographic? Human? I enjoy reading and learning about many human experiences. You could choose to not read these articles. No one forced you. It is a free country after all. Heck I choose not to watch Fox.
This article shows the absurdity of classifying people by race, as well as the immorality that results.
However, dejure segregation against blacks disappeared fifty years ago. I wonder if Mr. Lemon can understand how this foolishness applies to today's society, perhaps using affirmative action and racial set-asides as examples?
Learn your history and pay attention to currently reality. It was barely 42 years ago that my town desegregated schools. And even now real estate agents are still found to steer clients away from or to certain neighborhoods based on race. Legal segregation was technically ended but any organizations stayed segregated for many more years fighting tooth and nail to exclude by race . And many businesses still practice various forms of racist behavior. It can be difficult to fight all but the most blatant cases (Denny's anyone?)ALL races are guilty of social segregation. We all tend to associate with the people we are most comfortable with. Not all segregation is conscious racism or even racism at all. However, the end result can be similar and serves to reduce our understanding of each other.
I am 48 years old and I REMEMBER when my school district de-segregated. Sadly it involved the destruction of the black community (essentially) as the black schools were just shut down so that the black kids could be bused to the other schools in town. In shutting down their schools, the black community lost their sports teams that had been a central rallying point for them. God forbid we white kids should be bused to the black neighborhood! It wasn't as ugly as some communities (no rioting or picketing at the schools), but it still wasn't pretty. In the end, I could count on one hand the number of black kids who graduated with me.
Very good article. Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. Yes, this racist and bigoted society would rather African-Americans forget all the outrageous atrocities that were commited against them in slavery and thereafter. Recently Republican Presidential candidate Rick Santurum accused President Obama of distributing handouts and giveways to black people in America who don't want to work and he said blacks in American should go out and earn their own money. However, I'd like Mr. Santorum to explain why the American South which benefited from four hundred years of FREE slave labor and FREE slave Handouts haven't yet made reparations and rewarded us descents of African-American slaves our mule and ten acres.Should we go to the state house of each confederate state and demand what is righfully ours or should we start another civil war?
Also you forgot to let the World know that Mitt Romney, corrupt bain capitalist and job-killing capitalist vulture who for weeks has been bad mouthing Blacks when the discussion is not even about Blacks but instead finds himself have breakfast or dinner of racist political donors and picking on the poor in America is Amigo Mexican. What an evil faith he belongs.
Che took people with whom he disagreed politically outside, put a .45 to their heads and blew their brains out.
Is that your hero?
Coward, scared to have a name? @______________
FYI: Dr. EL Che (a.k.a. World's most popular freedom guerrilla fighter) other than Jesus is more popular around the World than a sinful Pope you worship daily as your God.
FACTS Undisputed: Dr. EL Che's IQ supersedes all US GOP presidents put together. These are his credentials which also supersedes and leader in the World at large; intellectual, physician, revolutionary, author, guerrilla leader, diplomat and military theorist. Original architect of guerrilla tactics and jungle warfare. Also, the name Che sends chills to the spines of coward American racists and oppressors. Take that to World Bank and cash it!
Also, ask yourself this basic question; how many innocent people your country USA has murdered around the World even to this day?
Also, the last time we checked; our own US Gov't have murdered more Black people than any other country on earth.
Hitler had a high IQ too you moron! Why don't you use his name as your handle!
Also one could take any nation in the world as a collective and the blood on that nations hands would be numerous. But when you take an individual, like Che, and count the lives taken by his hands the numbers are much more significant! Just because he is a current fashion statement doesn't make him just! Guerilla is just a euphemism for terrorist!!!! John Wayne gacy sends chills down peoples spines too...are you gonna worship him next! And as far as your listed "credentials" go how does one get "intellectual" put on their resume? Do you go to "intellectual" college?!? I'm not sure where you get your facts but I can not find a single resource that states that the US government is responsible for killing the most blacks In history. Maybe you can direct me to your sacked out conspiracy theory anti-capitalist guerilla communist website
Also one could take any nation in the world as a collective and the blood on that nations hands would be numerous. But when you take an individual, like Che, and count the lives taken by his hands the numbers are much more significant! Just because he is a current fashion statement doesn't make him just! Guerilla is just a euphemism for terrorist!!!! John Wayne Gacy sends chills down peoples spines too...are you gonna worship him next! And as far as your listed "credentials" go how does one get "intellectual" put on their resume? Do you go to "intellectual" college?!? I'm not sure where you get your facts but I can not find a single resource that states that the US government is responsible for killing the most blacks In history. Maybe you can direct me to your sacked out conspiracy theory anti-capitalist guerilla Websicommunist website
@KKK...good point. I think a Civil War is needed. The only thing the White Man understands is violence. That is and will always be his method of solving problems.
I rembmer my grandmother telling me a long time ago that change....comes with bloodshed.
I am not an advocate of violence, but I will go toe-to-toe for my FREEDOM. I aint pickin nobody's cotton and that includes yours....MASTA!
Together we stand! Divided....they conquer!
Well since we are following such intelligent logic, my great great great great great grandfather lent $5 to your great great great great great great grandfather so you are responsible for paying me back.......with interest!
Some of the comments here really make me sad. Why is there so much hate? People have come up with many stupid reasons to hate each other. Race is one of the stupidest. When we allow ourselves to be divided against each other by arbitrary and meaningless criteria like race, it just gives people to feel superior to others and the hate just continues. I am Muslim and in the Qur'an, Allah tells us that mankind was created from a single male and female and made into tribes and nations so that we could know each other, not despise each other and that the best of us is the one who is best in our deeds. In other words, it's character and what we do that counts, not race.
Kevin, the reason why there is so much hate is because many people are scared and uncertain about their future. Therefore, because of this fear it is easy to deny others the same rights that have been given to others simply because by denying they feel that they will have an opportunity than others. So race, class and religion is used at times to bring this division since it has historically been used to deny the rights of others.
While I have no doubt that there are plenty of racist people still out there, I cannot stand the constant emphasis on it. Some may argue it puts the subject out in the open, but it seems to me that it only perpetuates the issue, causing unecessary tension. It makes people uncomfortable to discuss issues honestly for fear they may upset or offend a another person. It's great to be able to be open with your feelings, but there's a fine line between blurting out racist comments and walking on eggshells for the right wording for fear you'll upset another person. The reality is no one is 100% anything. To have pride in your culture/background, no matter what it is, is a wonderful thing. So here's to hoping we can focus more on that and a little less on not liking others based on their skin or hair.
You feel uncomfortable because you are defensive. Has anybody accused you personally of racism? If not, don't feel defensive, it's a discussion and likley not directed at you. If you encounter someone who directs it at you personally and you've done nothing to justify that, the problem is them, not you. As there are bad apples in the white race regarding racism, so there are in the black race.
You can tell by the comments there are a lot of white people who haven't even read the article. They view any recalling of black history as an attack on white people. These are the main ones who have the greatest of white guilt because non-guilty whites don't attack articles that recall black history. News flash. EVERYTHING IS NOT ABOUT YOU. Lemon is just recalling his family history. The world doesn't revolve around your whiteness.
All of you continue to reinforce the racism with your justifications. CNN loves this tripe; Don't you get it? We all know what went on during the time Mr. Lemon's family experienced racial hatred. Do we have to be reminded of this? My grandmother looks white and speaks of the same survival tactics. I am not proud of it, for she was able to move ahead in fiction; using her skin tone as leverage...I think it is sad and could not live with myself after leaving my brothers and sisters.
Why can't we talk about the legacy of Dr. King and what role it plays today in society. Why must we be reminded of the terrible history each and every year, which puts white folks on the offensive and black folks on the defensive. You do realize this is a perpetual problem intensified each year, only to counteract the true initiative of Dr. King.
Now, I am not naive to think that all is well on the race relations front; we know it is not. This is all about ratings. If you want to no the ugly that occurred during 1920-1965, just google it and use some critical thinking to scrub your sources for facts.
As I stated earlier in this post, we are all racist. Yes I am racist against SOME blacks, whites, hispanics and the like. Why, because I am a human being and with the advent of youtube/internet and hands-on experience, I have witnessed each race fulfilling every stereotypical accusation propagated.
If you want proof, it is all on youtube, your local news station or any public venue such as Walmart. You can see all makes and models.
As I read the post on this post site, it makes me relize how much IGNORANCE and SELF LOATHING there is out there. I trully believe that the MAJORITY within each race are good and honest people who could care less about the color of other peoples skin and understand how to be humane and compassionate. ....I'm sure of that, but what hurts us the most is the fact that this same SILENT majority is just that; silent. Here's a challenge to you all, no matter your race/ethnicity, etc, JUST ONCE, whenever you witness the act of cowardace, also known as raciscm, SHUT IT DOWN! Even if its members from your own pack; however, if you fail to do so, for whatever reason, just know that you've proven my, and numerous folk that have passed before us, point. "It's not the less than 10% ignorant that is the problem, it's the spinless 90% majority that is....
While it is good to know the evils of the past, I want to remind everyone that we as a society have moved on from these types of atrocities. Most of us are able to get past skin color.
Ummm, read the other posts here. Its really easy to "get past it" if you're white, otherwise you get to live with the atti-tudes you read on here. Racism is still quite strong. Denying it is either extreme ignorance or a racist attempt to get people to ignore it by convincing them it does not exist.
So what's supose to happen just file it away like it never happened
Yes that is what you do, otherwise you continue to re-live it. I think it's time to move forward not dwell in the past.
Scott, you bring up good points and I applaud you IF and only if by your statement you mean that you are a person who stamps out negative racial behaviors because they have NO PLACE in present day America; regardless of race. OR are you saying that we stick our head in the sand and let by-gones be by-gones? If its the latter Scott, please know that to this very day, there are more White racist/Hate groups in America (State by State) than ANY so-called gang (which I never understood the comparison) of minorities. These groups espouse so much hate it's madening. Again, if you are speaking of the latter, try being a man and go on their site and type what you just typed. OH, and dont forget to leave your address or telephone number so they can visit you like they still visit many minorities still to this day (...and it all goes unreported..) Have a good day Scotty.
so let me get this straight JRod. The only way to prove your not a racist is to allow a group of racists attack you? I have spoken out when I've encountered racism. I have raised my child to know that racism, of any kind, is not acceptable BUT only if I'm willing to let myself be attacked does that prove that I am not racist!?!?! When was the last time you put yourself in that position?
I'm not sure where you are getting your interpretations of what I said, because it couldn't be any clearer. Racism ends when we ALL take responsibilty for ourselves. I've served in the military with people of all ethnic backgrounds and have never had a problem. We took care of each other, and that was that. It's not hard. Try to look at people as people instead of wondering what racist thoughts they may or may not have about you. Sheesh.
For many white people it seems like the past. However I grew up around many African-Americans. They have issues in their own culture with skin color and hair. This isn't the past for them. They have much internalized racism. I think there are many shades of beauty. We would all like to think that we have moved on. However, you have to understand that this is still very much an issue for today, especially in the African-American community. That is why he wrote about it.
CNNs race baiting story of the day. It would never occur to them that they are racist against every race except black people.
On CNN a race story by a black person is always given undue significance, no matter how racist it is towards other races. This one drop segment had a very angry women who was obviously a hater of white people. Its an easy litmus test, if you say it as a white person and a black person takes it as racist, then its an all around qualified racist statement, unless they would actually be selective about what they think is racist.
You don't understand what racism means. There is absolutely nothing racist about this article. Do you really blame blacks who were raised in the South when segregation was the law of the land for hating whites? The oppressed are allowed to hate and it doesn't make them racist. Their endeavor is survival, not control by means of a contrived supremacy.
so it's ok to hate when if benefits you?
Steve, poor attempt to revise his words. I did not see anything about anybody benefiting. I guess you see hate as a benefit?
Also, I did not read anything about hating the white race in the article. You must have perceived that someone who had those experiences must hate white people. Obviously you would hate anyone that subjected you to that behavior. Wouldn't blame you either.
Its amazing how many racists try to paint the victims of their racism as the racists.
To Andrew, only you and other racists buy your B S. Everyone else recognizes for what it is.
Signed, white male from the south who has seen it all.
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