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January 24th, 2012
07:24 PM ET

Congressional caucus wants investigation of Tucson Mexican-American studies ban

By Stephanie Siek, CNN

(CNN) - As students and faculty of several Tucson high schools protested the end of Mexican-American studies and removal of text books, some members of Congress are seeking an investigation into the ethnic studies ban.

On Monday, hundreds of students from Tucson Magnet High School and from Pueblo, Cholla and Wakefield high schools walked out of morning classes and marched to the Tucson Unified School District’s headquarters to protest the removal of dozens of Mexican-American studies textbooks, as well as the state-ordered suspension of the Mexican-American studies program. A petition aimed at getting the books back in the schools had gained more than 11,000 signatures as of  Wednesday morning.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus sent a letter to the U.S. Department of Education’s Civil Rights Office asking it to investigate the language of the law banning ethnic studies and its specific application against Tucson’s Mexican-American studies program.

On Tuesday, the American Library Association passed a resolution condemning the suspension of Tucson’s ethnic studies programs and the removal of materials associated with them. It also urges Arizona's legislature to repeal the law that bans ethnic studies in school curriculum.

Tucson schools Governing Board President Mark Stegeman said last week that part of the reason seven titles were being taken from classrooms was because none of them had gone through a required district approval process. But Three Sonorans, a local Tucson blog, uncovered a 2007 document that it says proves that three of the removed books had already gained district approval: “Critical Race Theory,” by Richard Delgado, “Occupied America: A History of Chicanos,” by Rodolfo Acuna, and “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,” by Paulo Freire.

Tucson teacher Norma Gonzalez posted the petition at Change.org on Saturday. It calls on the school board to take the books out of storage at the district book depository, where they have been stored since January 11, and place them in school libraries where students can at least access them on their own.

"I call on the Tucson school board to immediately return these books – placing them in the libraries of the schools they were taken from," the petition reads. "Knowledge cannot be boxed off and carried away from students who want to learn!"

Gonzalez was a curriculum specialist and classroom teacher in several schools until the district’s decision to disband the Mexican-American studies program. She's still employed by the school district, but said she’s now uncertain of her future there.

For one seventh and eighth grade history class, Gonzalez said she was told to teach from of a state-issued Arizona state history textbook, which she said erroneously implied that a certain tribe of Native Americans was extinct.

"I was asked to focus on a chapter dealing with 'the mysterious disappearance of the O'odam people' – and there are two O'odam students in my class," Gonzalez said. "That’s the perspective of the district, which is not accurate. To have to read that to my students was abominable."

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  1. Stephen Mitchell

    Here's a report on the issue with a timeline of events, the aftermath of the suspension of the MAS program, and responses concerning the suspension and subsequent confiscation of books:

    http://justiceandthecommongood.blogspot.com/2012/01/abandon-critical-thought-ye-who-enter.html

    February 6, 2012 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • rat

      Everyone is so angry all the time...Stop being so angry and "outraged" all of the time. Being outraged constantly makes people stop listening. Be outraged when you need to be outraged.

      March 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Robert H. McDonald Jr

    The one thing that many of you who are yelling about illegal immigration of Latinos are forgetting one thing, these children who are in these classes are of Mexican decent and their families have been on this land since before many of your ancestors were even conceived.

    I am a member of a family that has lived in Arizona since before 1850, I have both Mexican and Scottish ancestry yet I studied none of that in my history classes in Jr and Sr High School. On my mother's side of the family, I can trace my heritage to the conquistadors from Spain and again studied none of that in school. It is shameful that many of you on this board keep screaming about those damn illegals when illegal immigration has nothing to do with this issue. I wish we had these types of courses when I was in school and not the sanitized version instruction I received that said the American revolution was this white christian movement against a tyrant, the Texas revolution was about patriots fighting for the cause of freedom and Manifest Destiny didnt hurt anyone. All of that turned out to be bull when I was exposed to the library since all history is written by the victors of events and read the other side of the tale such as the American Revolution was about freedom to trade and to make what we want, the "American Patriots" at the Alamo were in fact illegal immigrants and criminals under the existing laws of the government in control which was an indisputable fact Mexico, and Manifest Destiny did hurt people and displaced millions of Native Americans from their rightful lands. Why do we want to paint history as this fantasy like Santa Claus?

    All students have the right to know the truth not some "Pro-American" sanitized version that is all fantasy, if we do that we are no better than North Korea, China and Iran in feeding lies to our children. Is historical truths hard to deal with and teach, undeniably yes. But to deny our children the right to know the truth about what happened to their ancestors is equally hard to deal with and its wrong. Furthermore, to make this about illegal immigration is just foolhardy because it goes to show how little some people understand what really happens and how its hard to accept that the fantasy that they were taught as children has been replaced by something that cannot in their minds be true, except that it is.

    We should not censor our children's knowledge but give them the tools and the information to make up their own minds. As an Arizona resident and a parent this concerns me very much that my children are being denied information despite my misgivings of such information, but it history and one cannot deny that it happened the information just needs to be given not withheld.

    January 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Report abuse |
  3. The Guy

    In all honesty, no book should ever be banned from a school library, especially if it correctly depicts history. The biggest issue though, is that these types of study's shouldn't really be taught in high-school. When I was in school, I learned about my town and state in elementary school and parts of middle school. My country and the world I learned in High School. These High School students should have had these studies earlier. As it stands, I work with products of the public school system, they cannot even tell me two main points of the Civil War, haven't even heard of the War of 1812, don't know what the Spanish Inquisition was, or why Adolf Hitler was so bad. THIS is why the rest of the world laughs at us, because our High School students are stupid as far as world history is concerned.

    Make Spanish-American studies an elective, not a necessity. Teach REAL history in history classes.

    January 27, 2012 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
    • CB1111

      The reporter did not do her homework. The course is about the indigenous people. I studied the Iroquois because they were part of state history. You forgot to mention, at least in the past, we also studied about our state from prehistoric to current. Learned to write to state Congress but also learned about the culture of the people here first. That was over 35 yrs ago. No one complained.

      This course is about state history and even the reporters can't get it right.

      There is then a year that used to be devoted to world studies

      And there is no reason to ban a history book from a school library. The problem is that the people banning it aren't even bothering to read it or investigate it any more than this reporter did. It's a book about American/state.

      I don't know what schools are teaching now. Back then in American history class as racist as we were as a society, it still seems to have been taught better than now.

      January 27, 2012 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
  4. Eskimo_From_The_Barrio

    And where is my Eskimo Studies Program? Let them Eat Blubber!

    January 26, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Kelly

    It appears that most of the people posting here have not even read the article, let alone any of the books that this course used as texts. The books are one-sided distortions of history at best, and racist at worst. The objection to the class was how it was being taught. Please be accurate and truthful in yout objections.. Use facts

    January 26, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Kia

    The real problem is that they only consider themselves American when the freebie bus pulls up. Otherwise it's mexico where the loyalty lies.

    January 26, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Name*Zobeida castillo

      Kia, I hope ur last name is not hipanic/Latina because u would definitely have embarassed ur self n most of "us". Latinos are a hardworking people n for the most part don't seek feebies. Learn ur history n then form ur opinions.

      January 28, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  7. bill

    and who do these caucuses think is going to pay for the investigations

    January 26, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Epidi

    I grew up in Florida and had to study the Spanish Conquistadors who came there like De Soto, Ponce De Leon, the Seminole wars, and the fountain of youth quest. So what if they study Mexican/American studies – it's regional, is it not?

    January 26, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  9. JOSE0311USMC

    MEXICANS KEEP ACCUSING AMERICANS OF BEING HATEFUL-BIGOTS--YOU PEOPLE BREAK OUR LAWS-YOU HAVE BABIES–GET SICK AND YOU GO TO OUR EMERGENCY ROOMS FOR FREE--YOU USE FAKE SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS TO STEAL OUR JOBS-YOU GET FREE WELFARE--YOU PURPOSELY COME HERE TO HAVE YOUR BABIES SO THEY CAN BECOME AMERICAN CITIZENS...IF YOU HAVE A BABY IN AMERICA , YOU WON'T BE DEPORTED BECAUSE OF YOUR ANCHOR U.S. CITIZEN BABY.. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT AMERICANS TO DO ???WELCOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS ?? NO/ ILLEGALS ARE CAUSING TAX PAYERS $$$ BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.. THAT IS NOT HATE. AMERICANS ARE SICK AND TIRED OF YOU PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR SERVICES.

    January 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      I'm a white man in Dallas, TX so I don't have a dog in this hunt.....but.....do you not realize that there is a LARGE population of legal Mexican-American citizens in that part of the country. They have been there longer than we have. Get over yourself.

      January 26, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  10. deepthunk

    I would like to take a moment to unofficially apologize on behalf of the state of Arizona, some of us know Jan Brewer’s crazy and can’t see her leave office soon enough. It probably doesn’t help that she drinks.

    Back in 1988 when she was a state senator she got into a DUI accident that she never got prosecuted for (http://tucsoncitizen.com/three-sonorans/2010/10/27/jan-brewers-dui-and-car-crash/ ). It’s mainly her racism (and that of a few G.O.P. state legislators) that drives these endless attacks on Latino’s.
    Many of us in the less rural areas don’t support, or condone her shameless racism thinly disguised as immigration policy.

    January 26, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • ketrout

      Why would you bring up something from over 20 years ago? Gov Brewer is doing what the Federal government is doing and that is protecting AZ CITIZENS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS!

      It sounds to me that you do not understand the difference between LEGAL AND ILLEGAL!

      There are more than 22 million plus ILLEGAL ALIENS in this country that need to be rounded up and deported back to their own country. Let them study the history of Mexico in Mexico!

      January 26, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • JOSE0311USMC

        I AGREE WITH YOU...KETROUT..WHAT WE MUST DO IS ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. AMERICA IS BEING INVADED BY MEXICO AND BY SOUTH AMERICA COUNTRIES..WE DO NOT HAVE THE JOBS ANYMORE.. DON'T COUNT ON DEMOCRATS TO DO IT, ALL DEMOCRATS WANT IS THE HISPANIC VOTE..

        January 26, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE HER IN AMERICA...ALL SHE WANTS TO DO IS ENFORCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS IN THE BOOKS...ARIZONA IS BEING INVADE BY ILLEGALS FROM MEXICO AND SOUTH AMERICA....WANTING TO ENFORCE THE LAWS MAKES HER A BIGOT ?? A BAD PERSON ?? I'M HAPPY THAT WE STILL HAVE AMERICANS WITH GUTS TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR AMERICA.. SHOULD AMERICA OPEN THE BORDER TO ANYONE TO COME AND GO AS THEY PLEASE ?? NO.

      January 26, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • RAFAEL

        AMEN, BROTHER.

        February 3, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Touch Love

      What specifically would you do to end the caste system in Tucson? It is easy to sip you latte at Starbuck and Villifie Jan, pierce, Arpiao, and Hppenthal as the four horsemen of the apocalypse, but come up with a solution that does not involve brainwashing kids into believing they are oppressed.

      January 26, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • dom

        First, mexican-american studies should be re-labeled as indigenous–hispanic studies. Read the books, you'll see what I mean. Chicano IS NOT mexican, never will be. My ancestors have been here for thousand of years. Second, teaching young students that they are/were oppressed is fine so long as it is the truth. Now, showing them that they are oppressed is an even better lesson. Your and people like you are doing just that.

        January 26, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  11. JOSE0311USMC

    MEXICANS ARE BIG TIME TROUBLE MAKERS....YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING YET. GIVE THEM AMNESTY ARE YOU WILL A LOT MORE TROUBLE FROM MEXICANS..THEY THINK THAT THEY OWN ARIZONA.

    January 26, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • crazypete

      The thing I hate most about mexicans is how they always post comments IN CAPS. Like they're four year olds who got hold of their parents computer.

      January 26, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • JOSE0311USMC

        CAN'T READ SMALL WORDS...A WRITING COP ?

        January 26, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • crazypete

        Hi Jose. English is not your first language is it? That's OK. Keep trying and I'm sure you'll get the hang of it some day...

        January 26, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • arsphidius

      Instead of typing in all caps, if you need to see small text you should just increase the text size for your browser. It isn't that hard to do.

      January 26, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeanette

      pinche vendido! hahahaha. Look how much hating Mexican's has got you! No matter how much you try to hate on your own people, the racist people you support will never see you as an equal or anything other than Mexican trouble maker you stupidly protest. Aprende wey.

      January 26, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • CB1111

      Dom beat me to the point.
      These posts prove why the books need to be returned to the school and studies resumed.
      The current textbook wrongly says 2 students indigenous to the area are not there. Indigenous means their families were here centuries before the setters.
      Also the people calling themselves Chicano are trying to explain they are descended from the families that for generations farmed the area and had huge ranches. they were living there but had no deeds because that wasnt how land was passed down. So the settlers took it over.
      It's too late to rectify, but let's at least be honest about our history.
      The settlers were the immigrants, not the people you all mistakenly call illegal Mexican immigrants.

      My grandparents had their land stolen in their countries. Not to be a victim. They rebuilt a new life. But it's history and should be told straight.

      January 26, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Report abuse |
  12. patriotsofli

    If history of one society is to be studed then all should be . African American Itlian American German American and so forth, If they are so intrested in their culture then why don't they go back and make history. Instead of running away like cowards because its easier then making change happen in mexico

    January 26, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • dom

      I really wish you people would read a book. the coursework is mis-labeled. the books being banned, are about chican/indigenous history NOT mexican history, which i'll agree belongs in mexico or world history. But chicano/indigenous people have been in the southwest for a very long time. And are a part of American history, yet nothing mentions them in current US history coursework.

      January 26, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • CB1111

      It's local history. Didn't you learn in detail about your state from prehistoric times on down?
      They are focusing on the local history of their state.

      January 26, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Jim

    This is the USA we speak English and study American History

    January 26, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      JIM, MEXICANS HAVE NO RESPECT FOR AMERICANS..THEY HATE AMERICANS..THEY ARE LOYAL TO MEXICO ONLY..THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE AMERICANS, THEY ARE HERE TO TAKE ALL THEY CAN...GIVING THEM THE POWER TO VOTE IN AMERICA ? IS A HUGE MISTAKE...

      January 26, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Senora Gringa

        Oh, Joe (not Jose) you are such a cabron. If you really were USMC, you'd have served with several Hispanics as they enter the military by the hundreds, especially that branch. Mexicans come from Mexico, like Mitt Romney's Dad! Hispanics can come from a number of counties and I'll type this just so you can read it –HISPANICS ALSO COME FROM THE U.S.

        January 26, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • CB1111

      Really ? School has degenerated in the past 35 yrs. we learned world history for an entire year

      January 26, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Dakota

    if you want to study your country's history DO IT ON YOUR OWN TIME or do it in Mexico This is America and we all had to take Us history study's so you should to and if you don't like it like i said gtfo

    January 26, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      RIGHT ON DACOTA

      January 26, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • crazypete

      You do realize that a countries history does not occur in isolation, as the country itself interacts with the rest of the world? For instance, you cannot understand American history without understanding French history
      9since the French helped you out in the war of independence, and they did it for specific reasons).

      January 26, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Tom

    Hey, reinstate the studies and in a few short years Tucson can be Mexico City North....A few rich, millions of poor and lots of slums......you go Hispanic caucus.....destroy America !!!!

    January 26, 2012 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
  16. Albro

    Good idea: lets study ALL of the "ethnics" in school! And to pay for this and allow time, we can justCUT OUT MATH, ENGLISH AND SCIENCE! Then we'll have a nation of racially-sensitive unemployed!

    January 26, 2012 at 8:45 am | Report abuse |
  17. Jim D

    I'm not a fan of ethnocentric history, but anyone who wants to seriously study American history needs to know Mexican history. The annexation of former Mexican territory, Pancho Villa vs Pershing, the Zimmermann telegraph, and the current drug wars are all Mexican AND American historical events. Studying history while ignoring what happens outside your borders is like trying to understand ecology by looking at a single species.

    January 26, 2012 at 5:18 am | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      WHO CARES TO STORY MEXICAN HISTORY ? WANT TO STUDY MEXICAN HISTORY ?? GO BACK TO MEXICO AND STUDY THERE.

      January 26, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • JOSE0311USMC

        AFRICAN AMERICANS ? WAKE UP. MEXICANS ARE HERE TO TAKE YOUR JOBS. I'M SURPRISE THAT BLACKS ARE NOT RAISING HELL ABOUT ILLEGALS FROM MEXICO AND SOUTH AMERICA COMING TO THE U.S. . MEXICANS ARE HERE TO TAKE ANY JOB..WHO GETS HURT THE MOST FROM ILLEGALS COMING HERE ? BLACKS-LEGAL HISPANIC CITIZENS-POOR WHITES.

        January 26, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  18. sabina barnes

    Lets ,stop putting africian americans in this conversation,this isnt about Us, every mexican and mexican amercian have a right to study there culture in school you people are, strong stand up fight for what you want the land of the free.

    January 26, 2012 at 3:52 am | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      SABINA--WANT MEXICAN HISTORY IN THE SCHOOLS ?? O.K. ALL MEXICAN HOMEOWNERS AGREE TO PAY FOR IT ??

      January 26, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tasha

      This s a course for pushing the anti American hate filled mexican agenda and they have NO right to have it in any American school.

      January 26, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Tough Love

    Mexico is an intellectually inferior country.

    Fact: 333 Nobel prize winners are American
    Fact 3 Nobel prize winners are Mexican.

    Mexico is an economically inferior country:
    Fact US per capita GPD is 47000
    Fact Mexico's per capita GDP is about 13900

    Fact: Mexico could not rule effectively in the early 19th century and that is why Texas fought and won its independence.
    The people of Texas, including many Hispanics revolted against unjust rule. If Mexico was such a great country, we would all be speaking spanish under mexican rule in the southwest.

    Arizona is last in education and the Hispanic kids in tucson have some of the lowest scores in the state.

    The narrative being taught to these kids that they are Oppressed will not help them get a job.

    People come to this country to escape the stupidity, unemployment and violence of Mexico. Once they are here, they must give up all allegiance to Mexico and its ideals and there version of history if they wish to be US citizens and benefit from this GREAT COUNTRY.

    These kids in Tucson need a kick in the pants. There parents need to shove a book in front of their faces and tell them to read it. Instead of mocking asian students for studying, maybe they need to drive their kids more like Dragon Moms. They need to realize that if they are successful it is by their own hard work and should stop wasting energy talking about how "the man" is keeping them down. They need to be de-mexicanized and americanized.

    This is not about Hispanic versus Anglo. This is about welding these children into the infrastructure of america and giving them a chance to succeed.

    Or, go ahead and give your kid the "whoa is me" text book. Then, the only phrase they will need to learn in english is "do you want fries with that?"

    Basta!

    January 26, 2012 at 3:28 am | Report abuse |
    • dom

      feel better now?

      January 26, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maldoror

      Fact: 4 out of 5 Americans can win a cage match against a mid-sized Polar bear while only 1 out of 5 Mexicans are able to hold their own against the Arctic predator.

      January 26, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • mjira

      Actually Texas seceded from Mexico because the Mexicans began enforcing their ant-slavery laws. The war was started by illegal white settlers from the US in Mexican territory.The Mexican brown skinned people who joined them in trying to secede from Mexico were betrayed and abused.

      As a descendent of white illegal aliens- US citizens who infiltrated Texas, held slaves and then seceded ,I know this history. Apparently you missed it in your white washed generic "US history" with heroes Davey Crockett, Houston, Dallas and Austin. BTW Texas failed as a country and joined the US where it has been taking more from the federal government than it has been putting in, ever since. With the exception, of course, for the years where it was fighting the US in order to preserve slavery , just as it had fought Mexico before. And if you don't believe the "civil war" was about slavery do some research and see what kind of reasons the confederate states gave for leaving.

      Many of you people who post here are ignorant, hateful, uninformed and an embarrassment to everyone who calls themselves an American. http://hti.math.uh.edu/curriculum/units/2003/01/03.01.10.php

      January 26, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tasha

        You are hateful, but I'm sure you have no embarrassment. You should.

        January 26, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • CB1111

        A breath of fresh air. At least a few know our American history!

        January 27, 2012 at 9:26 am | Report abuse |
  20. bentley76

    I was part of a similar, yet smaller protest in my hometown in 1992 when I was in high school. We were protesting the firing of 3 really great teachers from our high school. Two girls during a class assembly declared the school would be involved in a walkout. The next day, the entire school, even the freshmen walked out.
    However, that was when things changed; most of the students either went home or went to a football game a couple towns over. Only a handful of students actually protested in front of city hall.

    My question is; how many students walked out and actually went to the rally?

    January 26, 2012 at 3:19 am | Report abuse |
  21. team USA

    US history should be taught 1st & foremost in US schools.

    January 26, 2012 at 1:11 am | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      MEXICAN HISTORY, WHAT IS NEXT ? ARAB HISTORY ? JEWISH HISTORY ? PUERTO RICANS HISTORY ? FRENCH HISTORY ? POLISH HISTORY ? WHY MAKES MEXICANS SO SPECIAL THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE MEXICAN HISTORY ??? DEPORT THEIR ____________

      January 26, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • mjira

        Yes, the US is supposedly a melting pot ,so yes US history includes all ethnicities and ALL of them should be included. A good high school curriculum offers electives at the higher levels, and like college, rigorous courses should be included for students who want to specialize in a certain area and get a deeper understanding in an area, be it in mathematics, computer studies,sciences, photography or history. I know many white people who have gone on to get masters degrees in African American studies. If there is a qualified teacher and enough interested students, as many classes as possible on specialized subjects should be offered.
        WHY ARE ETHNIC STUDIES SUCH A THREAT TO YOU?

        January 26, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  22. cacique

    You know what I think we should have a ethnic class for every single ethnicity in the world. Especially Chicano's as they are my type of people.

    January 26, 2012 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Why don't you take your people and head back south to the promised land....once there you can study what ever you like or what the Mexican Govt and /or the drug cartels will allow ....

      January 26, 2012 at 9:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Kia

      You should be embarrassed and ashamed to admit that.

      January 26, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Tiger Mom

    Personally, I think that these people are nuts. I mean they think they can go around hallowering how they are being taught a specific races history in the US. I have read the history books for many different schools. Most of them teach about our major issues. Which are many different cultures. Anglo's are a specific culture. The US history books do not teach about them. It sounds like that boys mother is very racist. I bet also she is in some kind of criminal activity along with her father. As he had a bandanna on and his speech was very sounding like he was from the type of family that was very racist. I teach my children to be very proper and sound like a professional. That child sounded like he was from a very racist family. Along with that I would never allow my children into a class where graffiti is considered a part of US history. When it did not even come around until 40 years ago. I am just mad, I would like my child to and her friends to march against these people. I think if it happened at my school. I might have them do that. As there is no classroom for Asian ethnic studies, nor my husbands Scottish ethnic studies. Which are neither Anglo.

    Tiger Mom

    January 25, 2012 at 11:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • CB1111

      This is why my kid goes to private school. To learn real history. Ever hear of Petrographs? Graffiti on walls is as old as people.

      January 27, 2012 at 9:24 am | Report abuse |
  24. Aniela Mother

    Excuse my daughters language. I just scolded her one day and she made reference to some kids and I stated something not nice and very unkind about their culture. I apologize for that when she said that the Chicano's are rude and through their trash on the ground. She did not know better and I was having a bad day.

    January 25, 2012 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
  25. sameh

    oh my god these Childrens bewitches miracles

    http://www.bestofthebestofall.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1161&p=1603#p1603

    January 25, 2012 at 11:29 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Moses

    what? no I think if they want to have a class they should spend their own money and start a private school. It is not the Jewish-es fault the Palestine chose the side of the racist Hitler regime against the Jews people and Hitler blamed all suffering on the Jews. So the Jews are a great people very kind and respectful, such that we even allow them to have land when the world after they chose the Nazi's side and lost allowed us to have it. So no spend your own money on your racist view points.

    January 25, 2012 at 11:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      MOSES , I AGREE...MEXICANS WANT MEXICAN HISTORY ? PAY FOR IT. STOP EXPECTING AMERICAN TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR YOUR SCHOOLING-HOSPITAL-WELFARE-...MEXICANS WANT EVERYTHING , BUT THEY WANT AMERICAN TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR IT...THE DREAM ACT ???ANOTHER FREE PROGRAM FOR MEXICANS ..AT AMERICAN TAX PAYERS EXPENSE.

      January 26, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fernanda

      Here is another math trick This will work only with 7 digit Phone No. 1. Grab a cltcuaalor. (You wont be able to do this in your head)2. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code)3. Mutiply by 804. Add 15. Mutiply by 2506. Add the last four numbers of your phone number7. Add the last four numbers of your phone number again8. Subtract 2509. Divide number by 2 Do you recognize the answer? IS'NT IT YOUR PHONE NO:?

      April 17, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
  27. Negev

    I agree Mohammad. The US should allow an ethnic class for the children to show how the Jews have caused suffering in the world. Along with that the fact of how the Palestine people are under massive sufferance in the US. I think it would only be fair if the Chicano people get a class so should Palestine. As the Jews people have created a Zionist type mindset in the US where the Muslim people need to show the real suffering in the world is caused by the Jews and thus the Chicano class room is not as important as teaching all children about the real issues of Zionist Jews. So I think we should march to take their tax funds and use it for the Palestine mental teaching so we can take back our lands from the Jews. That is my, ya.

    January 25, 2012 at 11:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cashawk

      People cause suffering, not an ethnic group, or a religious group, or an economic group. People make choices, and it is in making those choices that some people are inclined to help all people, to be tolerant of all people, and in those choices, some people make the choice to hurt others, promote intolerance, and create strife.

      January 26, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Mohammad

    Yes. We should also teach how the US is really a Sharia law country. Thus it wishes to be as the US citizens have suffered under christian law for a long time. So the US should allow ethnic Middle Eastern classes. Where we can teach about sharia law and how the US will be better off when it realizes it is suffering.

    January 25, 2012 at 11:14 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Psychologist Major

    In all reality, a child cognition is created from the time they are born to about puberty. So the US has tried to stop such things as race or ethnicity or even religion into such lower schools as High School or elementary. As this would thus according to psychological opinions place a specific bias in the students minds. Thus creating later on in life a human being more likely to find comfort in racism or non diversity. Therefore causing problems in the community as they are not willing to be nice or understand others issues as does the American history class teaches a little bit about all cultures in the US. Teaching a child about ancient suffering is like a never ending story. At what point in time does the child stop learning or what kind of suffering is created.

    I have looked over the books that the class was using. It seems to be a cognitional set of books wishing to create genomic closeness through hate and creation of belief of disparity forced upon a specific group. I and my student cohorts are now looking into the Book writers to see if they are also racist or even worse maybe working for a foreign government to create such activities in the US mindset. As it sounds like an interesting study to see if the book writers are part of a racist or ethnic non diverse communal mindset.

    PM

    January 25, 2012 at 11:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Racism is good

      Personally why not separate all ethnicity into different classes and allow the kids to learn about their own heritage and allow them to be taught in that mind set stuff to be of their own kind cause I know the Christian people suffered dearly by the hands of the Jewish people. Darn it.

      January 25, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • CB1111

        Because many of us are mutts.
        it's presumptuous to divide people up.

        And why not just put the books back in the library and encourage students to read what they want to on their free time

        January 27, 2012 at 12:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Bruce Macintyre

      Very good.

      January 26, 2012 at 2:31 am | Report abuse |
  30. Ethnic Diversification programs

    Thanks to the constant racism of the Chicano people with regards to their ideas of their race being allowed a class of their own above the other ethnicity. The US is now looking into ethnic diversity programs. Which will go around to schools and ask students why they only hang out with their own races or find programs that are just like this one and stop them from allowing such racist tenancies to be created.

    January 25, 2012 at 10:58 pm | Report abuse |
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      April 17, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Bruce Macintyre

    I'm living in Mexico and the idea that Mexicans are of another race is ridiculous. They are Spanish, largely mixed with the previous native populations, throw in some percentage of black blood from slavery. Studying their culture is like studying the culture of any other foreign country. Considering all that need be taught in high school, devoting classes to a single foreign country is ridiculous. For this type of concentration, the student should pursue a college degree with whatever major desired.

    January 25, 2012 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      Bruce your history of the Mexican is suspect because the Mexicans are not largely Spanish because very few Spanish people came to the Americas. The Mexican is of Indegenous heritage in fact Asiatics as modern DNA has proven. As for the dash of African blood its largely based on the few black slaves that were brought in by the Spanish and not enough to be mentioned as say Puerto Rico and Cuba. However, it is a fact that in the USA many whites have mixed with blacks especially during the infamous breeding farms. This is why 90% blacks have white blood and vice versa.

      Mexicans are the founders of ancient American civlization of North America

      August 6, 2012 at 8:39 am | Report abuse |
  32. Chicano Pride

    You know what Muti nothing. We are Chicano's and we are here to occupy the US and have Racist theories in our books and teachings you best not think you going to be marching cause our parents are all for us marching you know. Do not even think about marching for your muti pride ethnic classes. What Muti?

    January 25, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Multi Pride

    Yo Chicano's gangsta's of America this is the Multi gangsta's saying you know what you get no fascism here baby this is a Democracy. Go back to school or get no schooling cause we teach muti cutlures hear baby not your I am chicano no your not your an American, cause guess what Muti cultures are bigger and will probable march now against you and your fascist racism for your single class segreation hatered you KKK chicano modingdongs aint no thing muti Pride pooos

    January 25, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • cacique

      Multi-pride is fine and great, but it is most important to know where you came from. There is no reason to keep students from that if that is what they want to study. Even if learning about the past is many times sad and painful because there is always pride in knowing more than in not knowing.

      January 25, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  34. anyonomous

    Future Chicano racist of America. I care not about your ethnic studies I just want mine and you do not get to have yours. Then I want to be all segregated and only hang out with my own race cause I am racist and I would race have racist protests than agree it is not fair for other ethnicity like Irish, Italian, African, or Middle Eastern to not have a study too. Go future racist gangsters and you wonder why you all end up in the lock up all racial segregated from hate. I hope all the other ethnicity march against you and call for equality in ethnic classes and not a fascist racist single ethnic class.

    January 25, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • cacique

      Atta boy!!
      You could easily be the sheep with the bell hanging down its woolly neck. Others would march behind you in large numbers.
      I bet that if you were to ask for studies in regards to your group of annonimous people, you would get them granted right away.

      January 25, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Report abuse |
  35. tpart

    I bet all those kids would run if they saw a white supremisist walk down the same side walk!

    January 25, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
  36. cacique

    That is what a voice speaking in unison is all about.
    The school districts showed how little they care about the history that describes the students' lives' origins, and how afraid they are of the students gaining a better knowledge of their past.
    But what really gained my attention is all the resentment the gross of the people posting on this column have against Hispanic students learning the history that was made by them and their ancestors.
    They can be much better Americans if they have their historical base settled, I hope the investigation ordered by Congress finds out about the dark intentions the school districts had for removing those TEN books from the school shelves. Let's all keep the loud voice whenever we feel that our human necessities are being kept from us because some fascist view, and because some racist clan made a decision to twist our kids learning.

    January 25, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Happy

      This is not about Hispanic students, it is about mexican-Americans specifically a lot of the course material was based on the idea that the American Southwest was stolen from Mexico and that they should fight to reclaim it. If you want balkinization of the US go ahead, balkinization has worked well in other parts of the world.

      January 25, 2012 at 10:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • dom

        You know this because you actually read the books RIGHT? oh, wait..... Faux news said it or perhaps some GOP blowhole said it so it must be true. I've read most of these books, none of which make mention of taking the southwest back.

        January 26, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Oh Oh

    Whatever, just more evidence that Congress is useless.

    January 25, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Report abuse |
  38. DanielleO

    I'm an educator in Tucson, AZ. Regardless of whether or not I believe the ethnic studies ban is justified, after reading the comments here I am completely disgusted. Being a Mexican-American, I am disheartened by reading the ugly comments people have made below. This "go back to MEHHHICO" talk reminds me of the talk that went on during the civil rights era of "go back to AFRRRICA." If I wasn't for ethnic studies before, I am now more than ever. Allow these students to have a voice, if what they are facing in this big world is racism and hate towards latinos, they might as well know who they are.

    January 25, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Thank you, Danielle. The hateful ignorance being spewed forth in this blog is evidence of why we are in desperate need of educators like yourself, and of multi-ethnic studies. We have a ways to go.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • BlueTemplar

      Yet it is perfectly ok to teach specific to one race? To teach that they are superior than another race? because thats what that ethnic studies class was found to be doing. You're preaching against hate but supporting the people who were perpetuating it. that makes no sense.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        No, Blue. I'm not defending one course or one teacher. Obviously it's not ok to teach that one race is superior to another. But the angry, hateful comments in this blog really aren't about one ethnic studies course in Tucson. You seem reasonable enough to see that.

        January 25, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oh Oh

      US population is up over 20% in the past 10 years, much of it through immigration from Mexico and CA. This is having a major impact on the ability of the country to assimilate them, and many latinos do not make a real effort to assimilate. Even you refer to yourself as a Mexican-American, not as an American. A lot of people are not supportive of that and some of those comments reflect that, which is understandable.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Me

        What is wrong with referring to ones' self as Mexican American? It lets you know ethnicity and nationality. How is that any different than Irish American or German American?

        January 25, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Oh Oh

        People do not refer to themsel;ves as Irish-American or German-American. You can claim to have heard it but reality is they do not.

        January 25, 2012 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • dom

        Funny, here in colorado i've seen license plates with those very terms, Irish-American, Italian-American, etc. try again.

        January 26, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Celia

      You are one of the teachers that needs to be out of a JOB. MEXICO is NEW SPAIN. Check the history books chica, mexico was strated by Spain, before that it was a bunch of unrelated tribes that resulted after the Incas and the Aztecs were destroyed by the Spanish explorers. Check your history chica, you've got it wrong. Also, "hispanic" is a CULTURE not a RACE. Hispanics are predominately WHITE as they are predominately from SPAIN, a predominately caucasian European nation. The la Raza clases seek to rewrite history and teach the youth to become radicalized like the hitler youth of the 1930s-40s and the sucide bombers of the present day middle east.

      You got it wrong chica, you got it wrong.

      January 26, 2012 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Janel

      Dr.Minister,please look into the possibility of aenergting power from wind at GADAG and CHITRADURGA.It is estimated that there is a potential to tap about 5000MW of energy here.Many farmers have given away(sold) their fertile lands at 1-2lacs/acre.Already there are windmills set up the region but not utilised upto its potential.The farmers have not been made stakeholders neither farmers nor the region is benifitted since power generated is directly transferred to KPTCL by private players.Wind power is nature friendly and cheap.Power Crisis is worrisome specially during examination time!It is really good that many developmental works are being donebut the present power crisis may have adverse impact on poll prospects.

      April 18, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  39. jim

    The first Hispanic person arrived in the Americas in 1492. Some ancestors of modern day Hispanics lived in the Americas at the time, but they were Native American and not Hispanic. Hispanic is not a race or color, but rather an ethnicity. It refers to Hispana which is the Latin name for Iberia. An Hispanic person must have Spanish cultural roots.

    January 25, 2012 at 7:00 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Lizzy10

    I went to school in Phoenix, Arizona in 1971 and 1972 when I was in the sixth and seventh grades. We learned about all cultures then and no one was harmed. What is wrong with people that they try and suppress learning, especially about the people who make up our country. Unless you're family greeted the folks from the Mayflower, you're not "native", so stop trying to deny that the USA is made up of immigrants. Only bigots fear learning.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Larry

      It is not that people are against cultural studies, it is the way the courses are being taught, and the materials being used that portray Latinos as somehow under the thumb of Anglos. Teach culture all you want, but leave the drama out of it. Teach facts vs. feelings.

      January 26, 2012 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |
  41. jim

    Any ethnic studies course should embrace a fair and balanced curriculum. No student should leave that class with racism or hatred in his or her heart.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
  42. AnneSD

    If all ethnic studies are banned, shouldn't this mean that schools are also not allowed to teach English literature that is from non-American authors - like Shakespeare, Chaucer, Shelley, etc?

    How do you teach world history without teaching the culture of the people involved in that history. Without cultural context, the subject is at best shallow and at worst ridiculously misleading.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      You are, of course, correct, Anne. I fear, however, that your point may be irrelevant to your audience. You seek to reason with the unreasonable. The anti-ethnic studies crowd seems quite confident in (and proud of) their ignorance. I'm guessing they'd be delighted to save tax dollars by chucking Shakespeare, Chaucer and Shelley. Just don't take away their Angry Birds.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • BlueTemplar

      Awesome false arguement. You know it was funny. Back in my history classes I didn't have to take any so called "ethnic studies" and yet learned about more than just caucasians.I can step beyond the typical MLK quote and just point at learning about George Washing Carver. One of the coolest inventors ever. I'm sorry your bigotry leads you to such ignorance.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Report abuse |
  43. BubbaTheBald

    This type of activity is condoned by the Christian Taliban (otherwise known as right wing conservative racists). They don't seem to understand that America will have more minorities than whites in the next few years. They think they can legislate and and discriminate until America is white again.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Jon

    this comes as no surprise from one of the most racist state in the Union...the kids aren't even asking for it to be a class, they're just asking for the books to be available for them to read if they feel like it. Why has it become a race thing? oh yeah because the media exploits it as one! History books are full of course of the accomplishments of the whites and the oppression of the blacks but nothing's mentioned of the accomplishments/oppressions of other races. The only reason they even put the civil rights movement in there is because black people will have another million man march

    January 25, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
  45. RD

    Take your behinds back to Mexico if you are so interested in your own culture. I am sick of hearing that a "Congressional Hispanic Caucus" even exists! Forced "diversity" – isn't.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • BubbaTheBald

      By your logic all whites should go back to Europe and leave America to the Indians or are you forgetting whites where not here first. Also, in the next couple of years America will have more non-whites than whites so get used to it. I am white btw.

      January 25, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Dennis

    If not wanting my dirty "white" tax money teaching this Hispanic crap in American schools is considered racist, then give me a badge that says "I'm a racist" and I'll be happy to wear it anywhere.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      ok. You, sir, are racist. Mexican American studies is not about "Hispanic crap". It's about understanding one another. Teaching the next generation of Americans to understand one another is not a bad idea. In fact, it's the responsible thing to do. Like it or not, our planet is getting too small for ethnocentric arrogance. It is indeed a global economy and that will not change. You can wish it away, but it is still happening. For America to even have a chance to compete, we'll need to be able to relate to people who are not white Christians. Believe it or not, this diversity idea could be a real strength for America if we open our minds.

      January 25, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • BlueTemplar

        It wasnt about teaching understanding at all. It was all about teaching hispanics that they are better than all other races.

        January 25, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        I get your point, BlueTemplar. And it's valid. But I don't believe the posted comment about "Hispanic crap" was about a problem with the course in Tucson. I read it as a broad stroke derogatory dismissal of ethnic diversity and multi-cultural awareness. If I'm wrong about that, I apologize.

        January 25, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Me

      Where do you think names like Los Angeles, El Paso, San Diego, etc. come from? It isn't England, dude.

      January 25, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • frontgate

      Yes, you are a racist and it is nothing to be proud of.

      January 26, 2012 at 7:07 am | Report abuse |
  47. American Veteran

    I find it interesting that so many of you against Mex-Am studies hide behind this, “AMERICAN history should be taught”, statement. Here’s the thing… American history IS taught. So is European history. I took the AP version of both and did very well in them so I know. Do you know what ISN’T taught? History from ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD!!!

    And why would it? Clearly, the U.S. and Europe where “our” ancestors – who themselves were never illegal, disease bringing, land stealing, genocide committing aliens - are from. That makes up the center of the universe right? I simply don’t understand where all this anti-white sentiment they teach in these classes comes from.

    I honestly believe that those of you who are against Mexican-American classes have a good point. Maybe instead, the history of Central/South America should be taught. Maybe the history of Asia should be taught, along with Africa and the Middle-East. Those should have more than a chapter dedicated to them in American schools’ history books! Maybe American children should learn more than the blinkered ethno-centric history that they’re learning now. Maybe then we wouldn’t be a country full of provincial boobs that we are now!

    January 25, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      SHOULD WHITES BE FORCE TO PAY SO MEXICANS CAN HAVE MEXICAN HISTORY IN THE CLASS ROOM ??? IT COST MONEY. WHO PAYS ? THE TAX P[AYERS, MOSTLY WHITE. NOT FAIR...WHO CARES ABOUT LEARNING MEXICAN HISTORY ?? ONLY MEXICANS DO.

      January 26, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Steve

    Uhmmm...wow. If you're serious about addressing what's wrong with America, just take a step back and read these blog posts. Wow! It's like a giant cornucopia of hatred and judgment on both sides. If this is a representation of the American people, it's no wonder our nation teeters. The America I love is all about raising one another up, not putting each other down. This is a nation that became great by encouraging one another, not fearing one another. Please, everyone, do a gut check and consider choosing something positive.

    January 25, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC

      NOT ABOUT HATE, MEXICANS ONLY EXCUSE...I'M A HISPANIC GUY, I AGREE WITH WHITES...I DO NOT WANT MY TAX MONEY WASTED ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT..MEXICANS WANT MEXICAN HISTORY ? LETS RAISE THEIR TAXES SO THEY CAN HAVE IT.

      January 26, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
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