By Stephanie Siek, CNN
(CNN) - As students and faculty of several Tucson high schools protested the end of Mexican-American studies and removal of text books, some members of Congress are seeking an investigation into the ethnic studies ban.
On Monday, hundreds of students from Tucson Magnet High School and from Pueblo, Cholla and Wakefield high schools walked out of morning classes and marched to the Tucson Unified School District’s headquarters to protest the removal of dozens of Mexican-American studies textbooks, as well as the state-ordered suspension of the Mexican-American studies program. A petition aimed at getting the books back in the schools had gained more than 11,000 signatures as of Wednesday morning.
The Congressional Hispanic Caucus sent a letter to the U.S. Department of Education’s Civil Rights Office asking it to investigate the language of the law banning ethnic studies and its specific application against Tucson’s Mexican-American studies program.
On Tuesday, the American Library Association passed a resolution condemning the suspension of Tucson’s ethnic studies programs and the removal of materials associated with them. It also urges Arizona's legislature to repeal the law that bans ethnic studies in school curriculum.
Tucson schools Governing Board President Mark Stegeman said last week that part of the reason seven titles were being taken from classrooms was because none of them had gone through a required district approval process. But Three Sonorans, a local Tucson blog, uncovered a 2007 document that it says proves that three of the removed books had already gained district approval: “Critical Race Theory,” by Richard Delgado, “Occupied America: A History of Chicanos,” by Rodolfo Acuna, and “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,” by Paulo Freire.
Tucson teacher Norma Gonzalez posted the petition at Change.org on Saturday. It calls on the school board to take the books out of storage at the district book depository, where they have been stored since January 11, and place them in school libraries where students can at least access them on their own.
"I call on the Tucson school board to immediately return these books – placing them in the libraries of the schools they were taken from," the petition reads. "Knowledge cannot be boxed off and carried away from students who want to learn!"
Gonzalez was a curriculum specialist and classroom teacher in several schools until the district’s decision to disband the Mexican-American studies program. She's still employed by the school district, but said she’s now uncertain of her future there.
For one seventh and eighth grade history class, Gonzalez said she was told to teach from of a state-issued Arizona state history textbook, which she said erroneously implied that a certain tribe of Native Americans was extinct.
"I was asked to focus on a chapter dealing with 'the mysterious disappearance of the O'odam people' – and there are two O'odam students in my class," Gonzalez said. "That’s the perspective of the district, which is not accurate. To have to read that to my students was abominable."
Let's be clear no book "banning" was involved. The issues are more serious than false claims of book "banning." In reality, no book has been banned in the USA for about half a century.
If book "banning" is one of the arguments, it only telegraphs that the remainder of the arguments may be similarly specious. I know that is not what is intended. So I respectfully suggest dropping references to false claims of book "banning" or "censorship."
Even the ALA's own resolution in support of the curriculum does not use either word, instead opting for "restriction of access to educational materials," which may be accurate.
I love those beautiful brown daughters, and I am happy to whiten your race any time. Who is contaminating who? LOL.
Louisana years ago tried to wipe out the French language spoken be the Cajun folks who were forced in to south louisina after the French and Indian war of 1745.
Now they have been going to a lot of trouble to teach the French language and French Coulture to those same Cajun folks.
Those hspanics folks in Arizona have mostly been there for thousands of years. Why go to the trouble to cover that up?
Some people need to get a life.
Good grief Charlie Brown.
Considering that Columbus and the first Spanish arrived in 1492, how is it they were there for thousands of years? It's only been 520 years.
Technically Hispanics are a mix of Spanish and Indian and Indians have been here for thousands of years.
as shocking as it may seem, people lived on the North American continent prior to Columbus "discovering" it. The ancestors of people we consider Hispanic or Latino today have lived in North America for thousands of years. Unfortunately since we only learn about European-based history you were probably unaware of this, which if why the classes provided in Arizona are important
Hispanics did not exist in the Americas before Columbus. Native Americans were here, and they were proudly not Hispanic.
Because there were indigenious people there. Chicano and Mexicans are mixed with the ndigenious people. If you read their books, you would know
Defend our country from the illegal filth brought here to scab our wages!
what do you get when you anything managed entirely by mexicans? a total mess who blames all their failings on others!
So many are responding that don't appear to have read the article, or done any research on their own. The objection to the class was how it was being taught, and the article lists three books used in the class as examples. One "Occupied America: A History of Chicanos,” by Rodolfo Acuna" is a book that describes all the terrible things that the US government, US companys, and White people have done to the Mexican people. It is a one-sided and slanted view of history. If the US has been so bad to Mexican people, why do they keep coming?? Decade after decade they keep comimg. Legally or illegally they keep coming. The texts used in the course were one-sided at best, racist at worst. That was the objection!! Please be accurate...
Thank you! Someone who finally responds objectively instead of all this anti American rambling nonsense.
Both of you are over-looking the fact that this addresses the Aboriginal/Native People of that area. They didn't cross a border, the border crossed them.
Jude Killsplenty Cruz,
You are absolutely right. I am overlooking that quite purposefully. I honestly don't care for the pandering we do to the various ethnic groups that were assimilated into this country over 100 years ago. I am all for Native Americans and Mexican Americans engrossing themselves in their own culture and spiritual believes. However, our government is NOT here to pander to them or give them special rights. And my tax dollars will not pay for them to teach their children the self pitying agenda which is so prominent. I don't see Irish Americans, African Americans or Italian Americans requesting this kind of pandering or minority based narcissism in our schools.
Jude Killsplenty Cruz, your response is not clear. Are you claiming that the class or the article addresses the Aboriginal/Native People of that area? The book they use in the class (A History of Chicanos,” by Rodolfo Acuna) talks about immigration. So you are making making my point agian..... Please read the books or the article before you post.
You are disillusioned and disconnected with the reality of the struggles that fall under your own noses. As a Native/Tribally Enrolled Member... There are several key issues and problems that exist today with US GOV & Tribal Relations policies. What you think has long been resolved "100 years ago" has not been resolved. Treaties are broken with our Sovereign Nations every single day. Tho, this is beyond the point and only to address your short-sided responses. The book is a symptom of a greater picture. Though, I understand your hatred... You lave lost the country you so love... You are now the Minority. We'll give you few years, before the tables are turned and in a 100 years, we can use your argument against the Caucasians complaining about Losing the country.
ONCE UPON A TIME A CIRCUS TRAINER BOUGHT A BABY ELEPHANT. WHEN HE GOT HOME HE POUNDED A STICK INTO THE GROUND AND TIED A ROPE TO IT AND TIED THE OTHER AROUND THE ELEPHANTS NECK. WELL, NATURALLY THE ELEPHANT DIDN'T WANT TO BE TIED DOWN, SO HE TRIED TO ESCAPE. HE TRIED AND TRIED AGAIN TO PULL THE STICK OUT OF THE GROUND, BUT COULD ONLY GO AROUND AND AROUND. THE ELEPHANT GREW BIGGER UNTIL HE WAS FULLY GROWN. EVEN THOUGH HE WAS MORE THAN STRONG ENOUGH TO ESCAPE HE NO LONGER TRIED. THE CIRCUS REALIZED HE NO LONGER NEEDED THE ROPE BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN ENGRAVED IN THE ELEPHANT'S MIND THAT ESCAPE WAS IMPOSSIBLE AND WOULD NOT GO OUTSIDE OF THE TINY CIRCLE HE HAD BECOME USED TO. HE HAD BECOME MENTALLY ENSLAVED, SO PHYSICAL CHAINS WERE NO LONGER NEEDED. I SAY ALL THIS TO SAY THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WHITE PEOPLE ONLY WANT TO TELL HIS STORY SO THAT THE REST OF US WILL CARRY THIS POISON HOME AND FEED IT TO OUR CHILDREN FOR ETERNAL MENTAL ENSLAVEMENT AND OBEDIENCE TO HISLIES. WAKE THE FCK UP! IT'S TIME FOR THE CHICKENS TO COME HOME TO ROOST!
Seriously: all caps make us think "ALL CAPS!" rather than "This person has something interesting to say."
it appears hispanics are so upset at their own failings, they need a scapegoat to blame. To blame all of the problems hispanics face on white people is a cowardly thing to do. mexico has had MANY years to rise up and become prosperous. Why can't mexicans create a great civilization without hanging on to the coat-tails of what America?
just because they want to hide the books does not erase the fact that those things happened, besides this might be the only way these events will ever come to light. Many Mexican Americans don't even know about the issues Mexicans have faced during a dark time in our nation. It's just like how the Germans don't want to talk about Nazi Germany, just because they don't want the subject raised it doesn't mean it didn't happen...and really I don't know if you are or not a "blackperson" but I've met more blacks that blame everything on white people than I've met Mexicans who do
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
The only way you could rationalize my comment is if you have a brain. So it's obvious to me that you have none. (Echo) HELLO, HELLO, HELLO IS ANYBODY IN THERE, IN THERE, IN THERE? MORON.
All caps and "wake the f*** up" . = Recipe for immidiate dismissal of any and all theories included in text.
I was informed that I am supposed to be inflammatory on cnn posts. So here goes:
Over the years, I have known a lot of south american's spainiards, cubans, and mexicans. I was even married to one.
They are uniformly among the most racist people I have met. They have a disdain for Asians, Jews, and blacks and they take their racist beliefs as a matter of fact. They are far more likely to make an off-the-cuff racist remark that a black or white person than any other group of people I have met (save for a Kentucy cab drive I once met... )
Maybe they should clean their own house before accusing other people of Racism. (Here I use the term loosely)
Further, americans are among the most sensitive people on the planet in terms of being open minded and excepting. Try talking to a Israeli about Palestine, or Brits about asians. China? You are a non-person if you are not Chinese. They won't even bother with you except to show you off as their best "white" friend.
And inflammatory remarks only make more flames. Rethink the whole idea of viewing the world around you as a gutter full of nasty people. If these are the only friends and lovers you meet, you are perhaps walking the wrong paths. Try living up to your opinion of Americans and NOT seeing people wanting more, rather than less, education as a bad thing.
But you did not discredit my main thesis that hispanics are perhaps more racist than other americans.
I merely didn't bother. Here you go: your generalization of hispanic culture is not based in reality but is something you "saw" through your they-hate-us-too coloured glasses. It's classic defensiveness. Somebody is holding up a mirror to you, pointing out your flaws and your reaction is to try to whip the mirror around to them.
I've travelled lots. I know there are cultural biases everywhere. I know that xenophobia exists in lots of cultures, but these tendencies ARE being fought in all these diverse places.
For Mexican-Americans living in Arizona, "house" is Arizona and they have every right to ask it be clean. And Arizona needs to clean this racism up.
oh my God-i totally agree with you!!!!!!!!
when mexicans have only themselves to depend on, what do you get? You get a failed state. Why is mexico a terrible plance? because it is governed by mexicans. why do millions of mexicans want to flee their own homeland? because it is managed by mexicans.
Oh, snap. I don't see americans going across the rio grande to seek a better life in Mexico.
And I don't see latinos here trying to make Mexico a better place. Seems like they are just fleeing Mexico like Italian Cruise ship captains on a sinking ship.
No, if Mexico had great industries, a silicon valley etc, a few great universities, everyone would be trying to learn as much about mexico as possible. Hispanics would have pride and they could hold their head high.
The fact is, mexico It is a failed experiment.
The truth is, that Mexican know their culture is inferior that is why they crossed the border to get here. Now that they are here, the complain about learning about a better culture and whine about how oppressed they are.
Hogwash. They can achieve as much as they want to achieve as soon as they take off the mental shackles of their "hispanic" culture. The Hispanics that do achieve great things.
the Hispanics who blame other people end up having kids that bus tables at restaurants.
you make me feel better about myself. Why? Because I'm not you.
Insulting me is not an argument.
Enlighten me: What are the great technical achievements of Mexico.
333 nobel prize winners are americans. 3 are mexicans. Is there some grand international conspiracy to deny Mexico her rightful place in world?
Wow. Impressive responses we have here....the good lord needs to do us all a favor and end it all now....
They should have special schools to teach stupid. Will they have to take French history or maybe the history of Morocco next. We already know that students for the past fifty years have been so clueless about American history, who cares.
I just snapped at somebody for posting about spelling, but seriously, you need to clean up your post grammatically so it can be understood. I THINK you think it would be "stupid" to study French history…and that the ignorance of American students is bad(?)
Of course your schools should teach French history. Not knowing what makes up the world is harmful to Americans. You should also know Mexican history. And OF COURSE Mexican-American history.
Both of you are out to lunch. This has nothing to do with Mexican-American History. These are NOT history books at all.
If this were a national topic taught in all school, I could see maybe integrating a portion of regular American History class towards Mexican-American history. However, it is not national, and it is not part of current school curriculums. If the students wish to study more about Mexican American history, take their own time to do so. This is just a protest from members of a society who are looking for some other racial controversy to develop. Yes, Mexican-American history is relevant, but it does not belong in the American school system. I'm taking Spanish courses now just because I see it merely as a way to communicate with the change in ethnicities. 2010 studies show 70% of the population growth in the US was Hispanic....there's no doubt that maybe in five years this won't even be a subject, and hopefully people will stop trying to bring their expectations as an ethnic group into school studies. Maybe you should just Google it if you want to learn so badly, I'm sure there's some valid info there...
I took Spanish in high school, was fine by me that is where I learned about the culture and history. I took history in high school that taught a whole wide range of historical information, but to teach white hate and racism in high schools of how bad the Anglos were, this is just race baiting. These kids are in the US if they want to learn more about Mexico they can go there.
I didn't know you have to be in Mexico to learn about Mexico. Thats interesting. Especially in the age of the interwebz. Learn somethin new every day.
Hey mike congrats you just made the case they don't need to take this course. *smiling* Cool.
However, in truth to really learn about a culture or their own ancestry, they will learn more in Mexico as it is then complete submersion.
On the contrary, this is an attempt by whites to prevent the "inferior" culture of Hispanic Americans from supplanting the "superior" white culture. The rise of Hispanic populations concerns many white people quite a bit. What those people don't seem to realize is that there's nothing to be done about it...this country will have an overwhelmingly Hispanic population in a very short time, perhaps 50-100 years. The cultural changes that come with that are inevitable and irreversible. These Americans will inherit a great legal and economic system, but America will never again resemble "Happy Days." Those who try to stem this tide will completely fail, and just betray their racism in the process.
Almost positive that there is no way your opinion is even close to the truth. Once again, if you're paying attention to the information, the classes were teaching racism against another ethnic group. So.....really, that's kind of a hypocritical statement you made there, and revealing your own inner racist beliefs. The fact is merely this. It's not a nationally taught course, it should leave the school system. The end, racist BS aside. If these students have access to computers, they can research it themselves.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Arizona history rather made up a LOT out of Mexican-American history? Shouldn't states teach curriculums that include history specific to their state? If it's only "national" history, wouldn't you lose a ton of information specific to each state?
How many more Republicans will we have to recall before they get it that their medieval tactics won't be tolerated. Imagine banning studies and books in the 21st century. What is wrong with these people? Get back into your time machines and return to whence you came.
Well with the white guilt, hate white America, racial escapes of the left happening, it really is a provocation.. You wanted it, you got it.
Arizona is not expecting them to be employable in the US are they?
Haha yea cause PC liberals have been doing sooooo well for our country.
It figures the State of Arizona would allow something as stupid as banning an ethnic studies course. The more I read about Arizona, the less I want to visit the State, except for the Grand Canyon. What an uncivilized bunch of folks. Pretty pathetic
Did you actually even read about what was supposedly being taught in this "ethnics" study? I will bet no.
HISPANDERING. Nothing but HISPANDERING. To people of "color" white people are automatically evil. THAT is the most racist point of view, because racism against WHITES is acceptable!
Dude, you post that nonsense under an article that is explicit regarding oppression BY white people. The irony is too steep to climb. It is not an assumption to say that this act by white people is definitely racist. Your reaction that white people are under attack because people point it out is just mind blowing.
Look at these ungrateful spawn of illegals. They have ben lied to, told white people are "oppressing" them. But if they'd just learn proper English and go to school, they could get a job and be JUST as succesful as any white person. Instead, they march around with Mexican flags, which is INSULTING. This land is NOT Mexico. it's the UNITED STATES. And I don't want my kids taught MEXICAN history. I want them taught AMERICAN history.
I find it amusing that you seem to be under the impression that American history is only comprised of the happenings of white people. I think you need to go back to school yourself and get a refresher on how this country has come to be what it is.
American history has been laundered so many times, it might just be as white as a sheet. But then, host of the heros of US history were actually black or hispanic.
Hey Rectal: Sounds like you need to learn how to speak, spell and write. You are correct, this country is not Mexico, but Arizona is just one of seven states that used to be. Sounds to me like you are just another threatened caucasian wondering what the hell you'r gonna do whenever most of this nation becomes brown. You know it's coming, so get ready.
To Maxine: the writer said 'you do not exist' because there is a cartoon character by the name Maxine. (one of my favorites)
This is why if you are serious about education you don't send your kid to public school. Nice that they take a day off to go protest. Nice that you have more and more focus on senesitivty and multiculturalism. Nice that in other countries they are learning math, sciences and the skills to compete in a global economy we are heading more toward drivel like this.
Which school system are you a product of? I'll make sure not to send my kid there.
You are what is wrong with this country before anything else, anything at all...
Eh sadly Public Schools are about PC happiness, not really education.
No sense in trying to start educating the kids in functional skills now, half of them will be employment disabled for life?
All of this is a mute point. We dont need white teachers teaching us who we are, we know we are the inevitable future of this coutnry. We breed and learn faster than any previous race; we work harder, and it wont take us 300 years to become presiden. We'll have a plurality of votes by 2050, and your white daughters love that brown skin.
We wont bleed you out, we will breed you out!
well "frank" if you are trying to gain American support, you go about it the wrong way. Good luck with that.
Sorry to be so rude, but the venom on this thread has me boiling over. I'm an MBA Certified business owner. I was born in Mexico, employ 25 Americans, and have a beautiful Celtic wife. I add to America and pay taxes at a higher pace than most of my childhood friends.
What I say, however, is acutrate. This country is growing a distinct Mexican soul.
Better not let your beautiful Celtic wife read that breeding part. It would annoy me to be a trophy for somebody to prove sperm might with, I can't see any self-respecting woman wanting that association.
Aside from all that, I can see why the outright bigotry in these forums would get your Ire up. Don't let them win by dragging you down to their level. They are mostly societal dregs.
What's a "mute point"?
Literacy. It's a terrible thing not to have. Keep on breeding, though, that seems to be working out well for you.
It's a mistake. Something that happens when you're worried about the big picture. Or a troll, trolling.
Oh my word the state of literacy on these boards! But cherry picking a common error is indicative of your own ignorance. Go get pedantic on the "alot" folks.
One is a typo and the other is someone repeating a cute term they heard on TV, hoping to sound intelligent. The article is about education in America, which apparently for Frank means television. Try turning on the closed captioning next time. You may accidentally learn a thing or two, even on Fox News.
Once would be a typo. Typing the same thing over and over shows that the author has no idea that these are two words being mashed together. And that was just an example.
"Mute point" it is a common error that stems from hearing more often than reading a phrase. It is rather like "alot" I guess, but my point wasn't that it was correct, but that picking this one thing out of an otherwise literate post while ignoring the heaping piles of illiterate spew is rather pedantic.
I made a mistake.
Now my world view is wrong.
My education is public state college, (SFSU purple gators!) paid in full with cash. No grants, No loans, just hard work and networking building a business and career.
Hey Frank, Shut up and clean my pool.
Frank is so pround of his beautiful Celtic wife, but then disparages White teachers.. How sad that your children, who would be half White, have to live with such a bigoted father letting them know that that don't need "White" teachers, and that Mexicans are smarter and harder working then other races.
time for southern arizona to succeed from northern arizona. northern will be broke in no time. Mexican tourists buy billions of dollars worth of goods every year and phoenix keeps it all for themselves...
ITS AMERICAN HISTORY, NOT MEXICAN HISTORY!!!! WE KNOW ALL WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT MEXICANS, OUR TAX DOLLARS SUPPORT WHAT 20 MILLION OF THEM???? DO MEXICAN SCHOOLS TEACH AMERICAN HISTORY???? NOT. IF THEY WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THEIR HERITAGE TELL THEM THEY CAN ALWAYS GO HOME!!!
Would that WV stand for West Virginia? Our tax dollars support plenty of ignorant white people too.
None more so than you.
Because caps-lock makes it true, mmhm.
Ummm, to the mental midget from West Virginia... it isn't about MEXICAN history. It is about Mexican-AMERICAN history. If you take your head out of Newt Gingrich's ass for 1/2 a minute... you actually may hear something other than Rush Limbaugh's broadcast.
Did you actually even read what is taught in those courses/classes? It is not so much Mexican-American studies as it is studies on the American oppression of Mexicans in the country. They are race baiting courses to talk about the oppressive and horrible white man against Native Americans and Chicanos. Oh yeah< GREAT brainwashing going on there for the students to then take that hate and increase it.
1) Your CAPS LOCK seems to be broken. You DO NOT HAVE TO SHOUT to be heard.
2) Mexican history and US history are intertwined. By learning about cultures other than our own we broaden our horizons and (hopefully) learn to accept others.
3) I am certain that your numbers of those we support are totally overblown. Of course if this country could come up with a better immigration system we might not be having this discussion.
Would you object to teaching students how Americans came to that part of the world, killed the natives and stole the land? That's American history. How about teaching students that Arizona was once part of Mexico, and that most of the residents of Southern Arizona have Mexican roots? Why do you hate other cultures so much? Your family came from somewhere else too....should we all hate whatever country that was?? Grow up WV.
That's just the point! This country is made up of people from all over the world. Do we need to study Armenian-Americans? A chapter about the Mexicans in America's history or the blacks in American history or the Chinese or the Irish, yes but anything more should be an extensive referral list of books and resources for the individuals' pursuit. Everyone's native language, customs and cooking should be taught at home with summer months dedicated to school get-togethers celebrating mluti national differences. Day long festival picnics!!!!
Gee..really? The Spanish were white........came to Mexico,killed millions of Central American natives,interbred with them and now they are Mexicans. Are you really upset with the Spanish or the Germans and Irish?
I AM Mexican-American, I live in America, and American History is the one that we are supposed to be learning. I don't think that any Mexican or any other subject has a place in our schools. If Peru was our neighbor, we are supposed to teach Peruan-American History?? that is bull--. We live in American, we WE MUST Speak English, and WE MUST learn American History!
but Mexicans are part of American history. Ethnic studies was created to teach the stories, histories, struggles and triumphs of people of color on their own terms...(Wikipedia)
We have ethnic studies for Afro-Americans, Asian-Americans, American Indians and others. Why not for Latin-Americans? This move by Arizona was simply a flagrant target on Mexicans and nothing more. Did they remove ALL ethnic studies or just the Latino? And before the backlash begins...I am a white American, born here and will die here.
Amen. Well said, Brian & Alma. -another real Mexican-American a.k.a. "Chicano"
Ok then lets learn Irish–American history, or Asian – American history too. How about Scandinavian- American history. I mean we also have Italians, Germans, probably Russians, lets learn ALL the history about every other country and people that came to this country to make it fair, shall we. Who cares about learning real courses of proper READING, math, science, nah none of those matter as long as we have the PC police. People can learn about the Mexican heritage and culture in Spanish class, like I did in high school, or even Geography class.
Mexican-American history *is* American history. Irish-American, German-American, Italian-American, Arab-American, Bosnian-American, Cuban-American... *is* American history. Native American history *is* American History. We are a nation of many peoples. E Pluribus Unum.
Except schools are NOT segregating out those cultures to be taught in school. ONLY Mexican-American courses and in a racial way too.
By all means Arizona, disenfranchise and marginalize your largest minority. Why not set up private church run boarding schools for Mexican and Hispanic students who can be taken from their families so they can learn to be good off-white citizens?. Oh, wait. That's right. You already did that and helped destroy native American culture. Well, try try again. Maybe it'll work this time.
Well, yes, there is a bias in grade school towards a certain "narrative" of how america came to exist.
And my ancestors were forced by the anglo majority to stop speaking French in schools... in the united states.
My ancestors did not come to america as immigrants rather, america bought the land right out from under them from France.
I could be upset about this and the destruction of my culture, or I can move on and take advantage of everything in this great country.
Have these teachers taken practical steps like contacting the publisher of the official arizona text book and pointing out errors and omission?
Perhaps they just like Drama, when there is no need.
This seems like a fabricated issue to further someones political aims.
I would comment about that to you, Maxine, but you do not exist.
I didn't get the joke. Can you explain it to me please?
Do we have German-American studies Pennsylvania? African-American studies in New Jersey? Irish-American studies in Massachusetts??? French/Canadian-American studies in Maine? Norwegian studies in Minnesota and Wisconsin? White Anglo-Saxon Protestant studies in the entire South east?
No. There shouldn't be a special status for any one group.
Of course you do. You get taught civics and (white) American history every day in every school. It might help if half the country's current population learnt a little about the other half (from their own perspective).
There is one history, and many perspectives. It is my observation that in high school teachers don't want to get into discussion about multiple perspectives because it is too much effort on their part. I would have been VERY interested growing up in knowing more mexican, chinese, russian, Indian and canadian history, especially from the perspective of those other countries.
I do not believe that only "minority" students should be exposed to multiple view points. It is good for the entire population.
I see this a a brouhaha over a minor issue. The issue to to gradually incorporate the perspective of other peoples into american history so we have a greater understanding of the world as a whole.
We would probably avoid a lot of wars if we didn't have such an american centric view of the world.
READ any public school text book, you'll find every ANGLO culture in it, that's where it is.
Ah...yes you do. When is the last time you stepped into a classroom?
Whites are discriminated against more than any others. RaHoWa!
Firstly, the banning of any information, short of "Bomb Making for Fun," is the sign of a nation going in reverse. If they were banning African-American history, people would be up in arms... I know so many of you get your rocks off hating illegal immigrants and blaming them for you sap-sorry lives, but not all Mexicans are illegal or even the children of illegals. As far as teaching US history exclusively goes, Mexican history and US history are intrinsically tied to one another. If you're living in the southwest, you cannot learn state history without referencing the former. Besides, the history of the United States is rather short in comparison to most countries. It gets pretty dull the sixth or seventh time around... A little diversity is a welcome addition.
What CNN doesn't say here is just how incredibly racist these classes were. Non hispanic students were not invited to participate in these classes and popular topics included how whites were evil and that hispanics should rise up and create the land of Aztlan. That's why they were banned from being taught.
Interesting. Is there any legit source for that?
This is an old topic that is being regurgitated by CNN. The other details that highlighted the blatant racism were in the mainstream news a few months ago.
I don't think there is anything wrong with teaching a comparative culture/ethnic studies class at the high school level, but using it to incite violence and prejudice is an injustice to our youth, they are being brainwashed as pawns.
I find these claims hard to believe. Were you in this class? Have you read the course materials? Sorry, but I seriously doubt this is true.
Could someone please provide a legit source for this information (allegations of racist class)? thank you!
Look up the textbooks being used. The studies were teaching about white oppression. Imagine the hate that will incite, but I guess that is what you want.
You all want a PC friendly world, yet it is all right to incite hate and to teach about how horrible white people are. You all proclaim to want racism to end, yet have no qualms of again teaching about the evil white people. Well gee talk about hypocrisy.
Well I tried posting the info for you, but CNN is censoring, so not much I can do other than to say google the information and then google about the people involved, the authors and then further look them up regarding movements they are involved with and what specifically is the idea behind this.
They should have the books in the library at least so that way the students who want to study the subject can study it. The whole protesting the removal of the course is just dumb.
Let's teach some history to these sugar-loaded popsicle cart pushers.
Never, ever trust an American "teacher" to really teach. I don't give a fig about Mexican-American history. It all ended with the Alamo. Hispanics go home!
I have Spanish blood= Texas which was once under Spanish rule, I was born in Texas I am home.
Why don't you go back to Europe! You Immigrant. You are the one that is no indigenous to this continent.
Gian Carlo I said I have Spanish blood and I do but I also have Native American blood like 5% so my statement is still valid.
You don't like me? You can leave. Hispanic and proud.
That's because they were preaching anti white sentiment to hispanics,the"Congressional Hispanic Caucus ",doesn't that tell ya something? Another one of loser obamas cronie groups .
White people are the most discriminated against group in America, and that is a fact!!!
maxican people were in arizona before caucasian.beside if is in the books we are talkin about history an d we need to teach it.
And native American were every place else before that. What's your point? The studies should be AMERICAN history, not any ethnic group/foreign country-American history.
What do you think makes this country what it is? The DIVERSITY of ethnic groups. Becky, get a clue, seriously!
Janet, Get A Clue!! You should read the posr before you respond. She said the course should be "American" history, which would include all the ethnic groups that constute America.. Please try to be accurate..
@ becky – Las Vegas
And the Dinosaurs were everywhere before the Native Americans , I be got a point
And the Dinosaurs were everywhere before the Native Americans , I ve got a point.
Yea and Mexico lost that war and it's ours now. No one is dening that America took land from Mexico and we teach that in history class. It's the chapter on the Mexican-American War.
Mexican people were there before the whites makes no sense. Besides that Asians were there before the mexicans.
And AFRICANS were there before Asians
Yeah I would like to learn about Mexican History. How the native Aztecs who use to do human sacrifices only to be slain by the Spanish in a mass genocide. How the White man then came in and kicked their ass. Only to feel sorry for them and let them back into the country that the White man developed so they can live off of us because Mexicants cannot fix their own country. Mexicans and Blacks, same dumb idiots hanging out in gangs not really helping out society. I am going to stay in class and learn physics that I will develop the knowledge to create a cool bomb called the Jericho (taken from Iron Man) that I only have to fire once. Which will result in destroying millions of Mexican lives.
Like it or not thi is part of the history.
I am an American, no not being politically correct or else I would be called a German Polish Czechoslovakian American but that is just too much to say, take that African Americans. America was founded due to a war and we see to get into one every 30 years. Why? Because war gets things done, war got us out of the depression. War sucks to be in but it has to be done. There are always going to be some group out there that disagrees with something and they are willing to die for their cause. The best thing you can do is be prepared.
Oh and I am the law
when I kill u.. will u know? in the name of christ (inshal'ah ) will u die?? i AM stronger than u ..child. (punk) ur clearly 23 years old
Congratulations on being yet another PROUD racist bigot! I would have to guess that you're simply too dumb to have any shame!...
Thank you Mildly, it took me about 83 comments to actually see at least one American not being a racist/bigot. If you are an American, you should be ashamed of yourself! What era do you flippin' people live in anyway? 1767? Most Americans give Americans a bad name. Shame on you all!
Exempt that everyone knows that any one with Spanish blood is both better and more ambitious to get something like that done, but the Spanish are also smarter and would rather hold the world hostage. My point Hispanic's are better, we discovered the New World and conquered the richest lands. England was lame and got no riches out of here.
JUDGE DREDD, WHEN THE RED AND BLACK ANTS COME AFTER YOUR A$$ THE ONLY BOMB YOU'LL BE MAKING IS A SH!T BOMB! YOU FCKN ALIEN!
It's funny that you have a name like that
Just think if the government would have done it's job over the years this would not be an issue, With passage of the NDAA and the provision's there in these people should all be arrested for committing a belligerent act against the United States ! If they want to learn about crap go to Mexico and take all your criminal (illegal) friends with you!! The MAJORITY do not want you here this is the U.S. today and guess what we own it now,,,get over it or go to Mexico!!!!!!!!
And just what makes you think that this has anything to do with illegal immigrants? It has to do with history and that's all. In a similar context it would be similar to removing all the books that had to do with the English settlements in the noth east.
Hispanic Caucus? All for Hispanics and and the hell with everyone else. Shades of the NAACP.
they should teach these children how evil the white man is,taking their land.they should be taught to get it back by any cost,by any means.their own bigotry in the way they treat indians should be ignored.they should be taught to hyphenate themselves as only white people carry the label american.and this is just one way in which the progressives can divide this country and it's people.and then maybe,finally,a secession of states can take place.
The Spanish did the same to the Native Americans.
Why should this class be banned? What does a history class have to do with illegal immigrants? Why keep feeding CNN's hired trolls?
The Tucson curriculum was thrown out because it was FILLED with anti-Caucasian racism, the sbsurd depiction of Hispanics as "oppressed", and the idiotic idea that the entire American Southwest "belongs" to Mexico.
It was BLATANT racism.
Yeah, Hispanics aren't opressed in this country at all. they have a full 5 seconds in which to produce their papers before they're deported!
now, now – that doesn't only apply to hispanics, that applies to anyone whose flesh tone is darker than a Klansman's bed sheet
if they are getting deported that would mean they are here illegally, when I break the law I get in trouble I think it should be the same for everyone.
Patrick, until you have been in one of those classrooms or read the material in question you have no right to say anything. ALL persons entering this country through controlled border crossings MUST demonstrate the right to be here, having to prove the right to be here is NOT discriminatory. The AZ law is neutral on its face, the TUCSON classes were not. The TUCSON classes TAUGHT children to hate every other group of people. Further, the so called "accurate" text books these activists, like Gonzalez, are pushing are factually inaccurate themselves, while espousing things like the violent overthrow of the "White" US Government for "stealing" the entirety of the "Hispanic" birthright that consisted of every square inch of the land from the Rockies to the Artic. I don't know about you, but the SPANISH were in control of Mexico for most of the time while the US was expanding westward and the US doesn't even own, and never has, the land north of Washington, Montana, Wyoming, etc. These classes advocated for the violent overthrow of the Arizona government when the Anti-illegal immigrant legislation was passed AND when the Superintend of Schools ruled against TUSD. these children are being taught to become radical, like the jihadists, and that violence is the answer andto take up arms against the US government and anyone that opposes them. The teachers are espousing insurrection and treason. If this was the early 1900s, these teachers would be facing life prison sentence and some possibly death sentences. The classrooms are daily filled with hate for anyone who is not Chicano. How do I know, I have a child that was enrolled in such a class before the superintended ruled. After about six weeks in the class she became dispondent and clinically depressed because of the hate retroric she was having to endure in the class. She was being focused on in class as unworthy of being in the class because one of her parents is of European decent (like Spanish decent isn't European decent) and the other of a Spanish speaking culture, she faced the same discrimination in this class that "mixed-race" children faced in this country in the mid 1900s and still face in the deep south. Worse, she was called a traitor for keeping friends that are "white" and threatened with bodily harm. After she was removed from the class the harassment and bullying only got worse and the "ethnic studies" teachers encouraged the students to keep up the harassment, her car was vandalized on school property during the school day, and then stolen from behind the locked security fence at school, one of her "white" friends received death threats for remaining friends with her (those threats were traced to a TEACHER). The SCHOOL did nothing to help her, not one finger was lifter to stop the harassment and bullying...not until the Superintended declared the classes illegal. Then they wanted to get involved...TUSD needed to have a clean image to go before that judge, by then we had already placed her into a private school for her own protection.
I and my child have personally lived the HATE these classes teach and have read the hate rhetoric they assign. No other school district has been told they cannot have ethnic studies classes...because no other district has allowed a subversive element to take over the schools and teach these children to hate the way the Madrases do in the middle east. We don't need to fear the radicalization of the children in the middle east, radicalization of our own children is taking place right under our noses in our public schools by teachers who hate this country with so much passion that they seek to have the students commit crimes to harm this country. That is radicalization in a nut shell...next we will have formerly loving children strapping bombs to their little bodies and going off to become homicide bombers because of these teachers' evil intentions.
Sorry that the caucasians didn't treat people right, but it is what it is.
convienient for you to leave out how the brown skinned ones treat indians.typical.
It's not like their going to take it back... it's history. The caucacians fought and took this country from native americans, and mexicans but it's over. Their children might want to know what happened... we should all want to know what really happened. Nothing to be ashamed about it's just history
"Mexicans" are mostly SPANISH decent, you know western European colonialists. The fact is that Mexico and "Mexicans" didn't exist before 1810 and the WORLD did not recognize the existence of Mexico as a country separate and apart from Spain until 1821 when Spain conceded the war. Ultimately the land that is constantly argued about was either BOUGHT from the early Mexican Empire or won at WAR. Texas revolted from Mexican rule in 1838 and seceded from Mexico, a few years later the US annexed Texas and made it a state (. This led to the Mexican American War of 1845-1848, which MEXICO started. During this War American forces successfully invaded all the way to the Pacific...in the Treaty of 1848 to end the WAR, Mexico ceded California, part of Arizona, part of new Mexico, Utah, part of Wyoming, part of Idaho, and part of Colorado. if Mexicans want to be angry with anyone about this land they have no one to blame but THEIR OWN COUNTRY, for starting the war and then having to give something up to get the war they were losing to end without total loss of their entire country. The rest of the land was purchased in by James Gadsden in 1854. The Purchase was lawfully approved by the Mexican Government.
The definition of illegal is non-native term and based on violence. When non natives came to this land, now called the Americas, they were illegal. The native were kind enough to help them survive; soon, however, the non native engaged in stealing the land from the natives, making it their own and calling the Americas their land. The vast majority of Mexicans are native to the Americas. Therefore, calling them illegal is mainly a human construct, a narrative that attempts to set them aside. Prudence, however, dictates a different and more inclusive course, because the "Reconquista," although non violent, is on the way.
Most Mexicans are mestizos, hence not "native."
And the "reconquista" would not be possible if it were not enabled by traitorous whites.
Blah blah blah. If you are not in this country legally, you are ILLEGAL. Its not hard to understand. You also cant compare us to how things were five hundred years ago. Five hundred years ago there wasnt a nation with laws. There were individual tribes living off the land.....thats it. Lets call a spade a spade here.
Stealing land and murdering thousands is wrong no matter how you try to explain it away.
I agree patrick it is wrong , lets put all those involved in prison, Oops wait they are all dead because it happened hundreds of years ago.
Hey Patrick, I believe Cortez and the Spaniards did the same thing. Shall we dig all of them up and throw them in the slammer? Or shall we continue to blame the people of modern day Spain for what happened back then??? Oh wait, no we cant do that because they arent Caucasian. That rule only applies Caucasians, right???
Blogger blah blah you ve got a PROBLEM with the ( BLAH BLAH s ) or something?
The usual nonsense about native and illegal. Dumb argumnet keeps popping up. As for the Reconquista, we all see it as more latinos comere, crime goes up, schools degrade, public services arer overwhelmed, prisons fill up. Mexicans in America is a nightmare.
Which Mexicans are you referring to?
hypocrites.how do the indians fare in mexico?
UMMN no. The defination of Illegal immigrant is one who comes to a country and breaks the laws when entry. The settlers were not Illegal immigrants. There were no immigration laws at the time. So that argument doesn't work. And calling them Illegal dosn't set them aside. It calls them out! It brands them as the criminals they are. And they are all criminals if they broke the law to come to our country.
Your comment, though, highly eloquent, is fudamentally flawed.
IIf you're so proud of Mexico, what are you doing in the United States?
No one else will answer so how about I give it a shot? 1) Escaping drug cartel domination and death, 2) getting a superior education to that available in Mexico/ S America/ Cuba, 3) working at a job that pays money rather than drugs, 4) escaping abject poverty, 5) living in a home with a nice roof, windows, a door vice a piece of tin over a couple of WalMart boxes, 6) getting medical care, 7) enjoying protection from the worlds greatest military, 8) having rights, 9) (I'm just getting tired of typing here so continue to add some more if you wish...).....et cetera
They're proud to be Mexican-Americans. There is enough room in one's head to allow for the love of one's heritage as well as their current patriotism.
Wow, I could say the same things of Italians, Polish, Greeks, Russians, Chinese, Irish, etc. Lucky for me, my family never cared much for making a big deal about the Motherland (or Fatherland), because I always found that annoying, but at least my family wasn't ignorant, so I was raised to realize "motherland pride" doesn't only exist in brown people.
If these are citizen students protesting then fine. If they are not here legally then they need to shut up go home and stay there.
Ironically this is probably the first itme these mexicans showed any interest in school.
Interesting speculation. I wonder where you got your small-minded perspective from – certainly not from higher education! I have several Mexican friends, and most of them have at least Bachelor's degrees. Now maybe that's skewed because I have degrees myself, but I find it shockingly embarassing for you that you would think that way. Its proof you've barely noticed the real world around you.
Ltinos have higher droput rates, higher truancy rates, lower SAT scores than whites and Asians by a signifigant margin.
I get that Daale, but still, you're making generalizations, and most likely, these are fairly good students, or there wouldn't have been any interest whatsoever, even as a censorship issue.
Yes I am making a generalization for effect. Both thses students and the latino caucus would be bettter served trying to deal with hte broader issue rather than defending what is basically one nationalistic class.
Chicanos are not Mexicans, and these stupid kids do not represent me or my country. Respect the nation you live in, and stop trying to impose your culture. AZ is not Mexico idiots!!!
Actually Arizona WAS Mexico once (along with New Mexico and Texas). So the history of Arizona is tied to the history of Mexico. I know the truth hurts.
Key word "WAS" now its not get over it.
Guess we don't want our kids learning about the history and development of our Formerly Great – Now Meh Nation.
Wow. We truly are a nation with such hate filled people.
You can't truly love without hating that which merits hate.
I hate the sight of the US morphing into a Third World sh-thole. You want to love that, go do your loving somewhere else.
Well said Zane.
Do you PPL see how Hispanics are DEMANDING what they want from The USA ?? They are demonstrating exactly what is coming NEXT. The growing hostility is OBVIOUS ! Sure, let's just give in and we'll all get along fine. NOT!!!
Didn't African-Americans demand what they wanted of the US during the Civil Rights movement?
yes they did biohazard and the republicans helped them get it.
FOR ANY WHITE PERSON WHO DOESN'T LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY YOU NEEDS TO GO BACK HOME TO THE CAVES OF THE CAUCASES MOUNTAINS. YOUR BIBLE EVEN STATES THAT A WAR WAS FOUGHT IN HEAVEN. EVIDENCE- THE ASTEROID BELT WHICH EXISTS IN NOT OTHER SOLAR SYSTEM TO DATE! WOW UNTO THE MEN OF THE EARTH AND CREATURES OF THE SEA, FOR SATAN HAS BEEN CAST DOWN UPON YOU KNOWING THAT HIS TIME IS SHORT." HE BREATHES AND WALKS ON TO LEGS. IN FACT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT SATAN WAS TO DO THAT WHITE PEOPLE HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE. SO IF YOU ARE NOT THE DEVIL THEN YOU ARE JUST AS GOOD!
Plain and simple...you're a DOLT!
You probably took a class like this one and learned your bigotry there. You likely got an A, but probably flunked English, you cannot even write properly.
What an idiot!
Wow, you managed to type that all by yourself? Good work child, good work. You keep that up and before you know it you can write good enough to move up to grade 2.
Stupidity I can forgive.
Typing in all caps is intolerable.
Symptoms of Latino students who take electives like Spanish, and actually get credit for the course. So, taking a course in Hispanic culture results in the same symptom. This is the kind of mentality that actually oppresses people and has been practiced as an appeasment around the country. Note the numbers of communities where Spanish is the language and no other. Try and find people in that community that are involved in truly globally significant things... Good luck!
Well, you have the indignados in Spain that sort of started that whole Occupy thing. No matter your opinion on the Occupiers they have had an effect. Doubt it? go ask Occupy Nigeria how much they paying for gas now.
mumbo jumbo jumbo mumbo mumbo mumbo jumbo mumbo.....lol
Let me put this so you will understand – YU AR A IDIOT
all bans of knowledge (knowledge of any kind good or bad) are lame limitations that in fact only call for individuals to then protest and retrieve the sources of information; it is way more productive to allow all schools and all individuals to pursue whichever courses of study are most fruitful to them; for example if these students prefer the Mexican-American course, they should be perfectly allowed to have at it.
They should drop all humanities and study something that will earn a living. All social studies are bunk. We do not learn from our past, there is no use in studying it. All these classes teach hatred and division. Worthless.
Science and math are what is needed, not diversity studies.
There are a lot of lessons you can learn from the past. History tends to repeat itself. What happened 500 years ago will happen again. Probably not exactly as it did 500 years ago, but it will be similar. The players change, but the game remains the same.
Wrong! As George Santayana said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
THIS IS THE US WE NEED TO STUDY AMERICAN AND US STATE'S HISTORY
Failing to study greater history is ignorant in the extreme. Ignore it at your own peril.
These books are on the history of Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and California.
Mexican stidies is american studies you dolt.
You must have been in the crowd that booed the golden rule then. First, they are studying Arizona history, NOT US history. There is a difference. Arizona was not always a state (just like the US has a history before it became a country) Second, Arizona was Mexico before the US acquired it and made it a state. Thus a good portion of that history is going to involve Mexico (just like we can't talk about US history without the context of Britain, France and Russia).
What if your state used to be part of Mexico?
Why stop with just Mexican-American studies? ALL cultural backgrounds should be considered. Is there a Scots-American study program? What about German-American? Dutch-American? I could go on and on. Until each and every cultural group study program is equally available, there should NOT be a program for a specific culture? Everyone comes from somewhere, study them all. Or, if the study of a particular culture is desired, study independently or at the community center, or your individual family. We need to stop catering to special interest groups.
They DO have a course that covers all ethnic backgrounds. It is too difficult a subject for most school systems to teach since it requires a hugely experienced Doctorate level to teach. The course is called "World History and It's Application to Western Near Eastern Studies". It is so disheartening that the Mexican descendants don't really understand that their culture/history spans more than just the Hispanic influence but also includes the migratory influence of aboriginal tribes such as would be found in the First Nations. A significant relationship to Western civilization exists between the two cultures, yet both white and brown are stuck in racism hell, and, they are too ignorant to get themselves out. I just would hope that the "better" equipped white school system administrators, could provide a better education than that which is being provided. How arrogant and ignorant to pull a stunt like this. Oh well, you reap what you sow. If you want to keep oppressing the browns with enablement, then... so be it. We shall see what the outcome is: stupid people!
But Scotland and Germany are not landlocked with the US and were never part of Mexico, purchased and added on to the USA.
While we're at it, let's throw out all that crap that talks about British Colonies. America always was, is and always will full of Americans, related to American's, and interacted only with American's. All wars have bene Civil Wars between American's. Little known fact, Rome was an American colony. What this Upstart Mexico ish doing tryin to get all up in my Ominipresent US.
...Next, the T baggie/gop will hold a BOOK BURNING LESSON..........what a bunch of red neck az z hoes..........
As long as American taxpayers are funding the local schools, then American history should be taught. If that is a subject the students wish to pursue in their college studies, then by all means, please do so.
....so YOU ARE FOR ELIMINATIONS OF ANCIENT EGPTIAN HISTORY, ENGLISH AND EUROPEAN HISTORY, ASIAN HISTORY , CHINESE HISTORY............"those that do Not study (ANY) history, are DOOMED to repeat it........"
People should study whatever they find interesting, but at their own expense (not the taxpayers) and on their own time. Public school districts should not have to change a standard / general curriculum to cater to all ethnic groups.
Oddly enough, Mexican-American history IS AMERICAN HISTORY!
You aren't truly that ignorant, are you? Perhaps you are, you are opposed to studying history after all...
Fred Evil, you've earned a gold star for your comment. Finally, someone is - how shall I say it? Aware.
+1. Don't even know why I'm feeding the trolls, but can't help it.
The history of this nation includes the truth about the Native Americans and the MesoAmericans. Had you had a proper education yourself you would know that. We can perpetuate the same ignorance you have demonstrated here or we can learn together. Your choice.
American taxpayers also fund schools to teach the State history, that is the history of the state both before and after its inception. I'm sorry but American history is tied to the history of Mexico, England, and every other country we've run across. I guess we can talk about the US in a vacuum without the rest of the world being involved, but that wouldn't be teaching anybody anything now would it.
this is getting way out of hand
Latinos have substantially lower graduatioon rates, SAT scores, etc. than whites and Asians. Wonder if this class will teach the reason why. A class like this will defintely prepare them to compete with white and Asian students, and later foreign workers.
You start out sounding like you know the score about why "Latinos" (not to mention another esteemed-up "minority") perform poorly, and then you go and dream out loud about how proper schooling will somehow remedy this.
World needs ditch diggers too, so go ahead and bring back those books..
If that is all they want, well, let's let them have it. Better to have them waste time studying that crap rather than something that is going to really get them a place in American society. Better to know where the tamale came from rather than how to establish it as a health saving dietary staple for an entire nation. Go ahead... give them the slacker subject matter that they want!
...did you even get the point? Or is this written in too foreign a language for your skill level? Huh?
Tell me, THOR, where did AZ come from? Did it just suddenly fall to Earth in 1856 like you did from Valhala? No, therefore, to learn about Arizona's history is to learn about American history and how can you, THOR, begrudge some students for wanting to learn their state history? Is it because most of them are named Jose and Guadalupe? Because all students are allowed to take these courses, the Joses, Marias, Kathleens, Adams, Brians, all of them.
AZ came from when we beat their asssssss. Get over it.
My sister went to Cholla High, my Chicano husband attended both Wakefield Jr High and Pueblo High. In fact, it's at Pueblo were we met. I was one of the few whites students attending a predominately Hispanic and black school. The only history we ever learned in the TUSD is from the Mayflower up to about the civil war, each and every year and that simply wasn't enough. It's a shame the district is allowing political fear and grandstanding to affect the education they offer their student body. If you want to learn true AZ history, you do need to learn about the time AZ was part of Mexico. Give the Hispanic students in the district more than just the Mayflower and for the love of education, get past the civil war. BTW, who won?
The real shame is that instead of demanding real courses like Iberian world history, which is steeped with the development of the new world by predominately Hispanics, the Hispanic community chooses to limit itself to the banterings of "cultural studies"... We have such a wonderful ride on this rollercoaster we call Earth, yet we limit ourselves to our petty small eggs and how are we going to stumble our way to the edge of the nest....
Latino, chicano, Hispanic, Mexican, Mexican-American, the entire effort to label themselves as anything other than just American is pathetic. This course will only add to that.
A while woman who loves illigal aliens, who have no love of this country or its history or traditions or culture, but hate African Americans. Hmmmmm.
A white woman who loves illigal aliens, who have no love of this country or its history or traditions or culture, but hate African Americans. Hmmmmm.
What are you talking about? Reading comprehension eluding you?
I wonder what percentage of these students actually take the history class and pass it. Let them keep their stupid course and if they flunk it, then take it away. Lets's stop funding mediocrity.
Why do you assume mediocrity and low grades?
Historically that has been the case.
Is that right? Check your heart and facts, my friend. You are behaving as a total red neck. Stop hating. I know you like tacos, too. Liar!
I love Tacos and Tortas, etc.
One thing we might be forgetting is that education is an activity, not passive. If one wants to learn history there are many places one can acquire reading material. A library is an excellent resource. I have found the Kimble a wonderful device to store many of the history books I read. Half Priced Books and other retail outlets have discounted books. School is not the only place to get an education. With a graduate degree I can still say I learned much more outside of school than I ever did while attending.
Yes sir, I do love tacos and in fact I make a mean taco and frijoles from scratch. I didn't learn to make them in school either.
What's a Kimble?
Cancel math or English language lessons and see if any protest. Likely not.
they are not language subjects you idiot! insane :( some of you are just like the people we support, retards!
Try banning Calculus or Physics and see how many people protest. Maybe 10? 20? We are becoming a nation of morons.
Don't you know? Mexican – American Culture Degree programs are in high demand and capture some of the highest salaries today! NOT!
Calculus and or Physics matter.
, “Occupied America: A History of Chicanos,” by Rodolfo Acuna, and “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,”. Two of the three books that were removed. God, this will only end in another war where we have to kick Mexico's a$$.
Watched the video, and I only saw one flag. And guess what flag that happened to be?
Funny how these students will protest USA policies, yet they REFUSE to protest or do anything about the cartels destroying their families and livelihoods. SAD and Pathetic.
thats because they are animals who only care about trying to turn the USA into another Mexico
I like mexico.
I like Tacos, and salsa...gotta have the salsa...and carnitas...ooooo...dont forget the lovely LATINAS...via la Latina food and women...the rest can go soak...
That might be because these are American middle school students in Arizona wanting to learn about their history in American. What do the cartels have to do with their education or their families?
It’s not the kids that are protesting, so there goes that. Also if they are illegal they are NOT Americans.
Yes the students are protesting you idiot, did you not read the article?
The kids are doing what they are told to by their parent’s moron. And that makes it irrelevant. The article is about the ‘Hispanic caucus” try to keep up
That might just be because they're in the US and very likely US citizens with no recent family members from Mexico. The US did purchase that little tract of land way back in 1856, you know.
That might have to do with the fact that the cartels will kill them, their family, anyone their familiy knows and then dump them on a main street. Oh and they kill you in the very not fun kind of ways.
A lot of you all are racist and don't even know it...thats what makes it dangerous. So its acceptable to "American" history to teach from a Eurocentric point of view? Chris Columbus discovered America...what B.S. They glorify a murderer and thief. How insulting and insensitive do you think that is to Native Americans?
When American education gets the history accurate and not racist and taught from a multcultural perspective where we all feel accurately included then maybe we can discuss banning these ethnic studies classes. Until then someone has to teach the TRUTH. A lot of you Caucasians need to walk a mile in the shoes of People of Color then maybe you will see why we need these Ethnic Studies classes.
Columbus, "A Murderer and thief"... LOL, Possibly, but let's take a look at the murderers and thieves that were called Aztecs and Mayans. Learn history you schmuck, it was the way of the world at the time.
You think that "maybe" Columbus was a murderer and thief? Columbus crossed oceans to murder MILLIONS ya dolt. The Aztecs and Mayans my have had unusual practices and warred with neighboring tribes, but they did not practice genocide of an entire indigenous population. I just love it when ignorant people chastise others for their perceived ignorance...priceless!
A person isn’t a racist because they disagree with you. That same person is not a racist if they do not want racist marital taught to school children (see the FIRST study done on these ‘classes’). FYI: Mexicans are also descendents of Europeans. This nonsense about being descended from native tribes is BS. If you knew anything about the culture you’d know this. The actually descendents of the natives have distinct physical differences and are an extreme minority. Put that in your PC pipe and smoke it.
/kicks your soap box.
Actually Patrick, you're not correct. Yes, many Hispanics can trace familial roots to Europe but there are tribes in Mexico that are natives, not descendants of Europeans. They don't even speak Spanish.
The last time I checked white was a color.
Really, you need to take a History class somewhere that teaches the truth.. You imply that History classes taught by caucasians is some how are not truthful.. mmmmmm, if I made such a generalization about Hispanic teaches you would most likely call me "racist." Perfect example of "double standard."
MEXICANS ARE BIG RACISTS. as a black man I find them more offensive than most whites. Hate to hear them cry about something that they themselves participate in.
There will be ZERO government funding left for the REAL Americans (blacks & whites) because of the Mexicans getting everything for free (WIC, housing, schooling, etc) from taxpayers money.....Blacks & whites need to realize that these Mexicans are financially draining this country and we cant afford it
Honest Abe, stop being so dishonest, hombre. Look into the mirror...lots of Latinos love black America. Sure there are some haters, but by and large, Latinos and blacks have more in common than you claim. Be honest, I know you love tacos!!
Gomez, I have cousins that are half Mexican. I can tell you that my late Uncle is rolling around his grave at the clowns that are coming into America and expect to get what real immigrants have; yet don't want to do what they had to do to EARN IT...
Shouldn't you be on break somewhere?
Travel to Mexico often, do you? Mexicans come from Mexico.
As a black woman, I agree with you.
Mexican Amercian take Spanish in highschool and make a C......
right, and American students take English and do the same or worse.
"make" a c...or is that "earn" a c? typical racist moron that has opions coming out of their behinds but cannot read or write properly.
Actually he wrote it correctly, Earned would imply that they worked for it... That is not the case today, even in the class rooms...
says the person who clearly couldn't pass an English Composition course.
WOW... I just love those that are completely ignorant...
Hey idiots posting here, Arizona is comprised of 60% Latinos. Did it ever occur to your little brains, that when you seize land from Mexico, it contains people of Mexican descent? There's a large population of Native Americans and Latinos, who are not immigrants who are being told their history doesn't count. Who are being told if you're brown, you'd better be carrying a birth certificate. Nobody gets up in arms where I live about the course that gives the history of the area. Why is Arizona so bent on denying the history of their own people in their state?
If the white European people didnt take over the land, it would still be a dump with ZERO economy, it would nothing but poor Mexicans running around shooting, robbing, and killing each other.....it would look like a 3rd world country......Hispanics/Latinos commit more violent crimes per person than ANY other race in the world......and people wonder why the USA is going down the toilet with each passing day
Actually you are wrong. Mexico has one of the lowest murder rates than most Latin American countries.
Sieze? You mean purchased? Oh it i was not full of Mexicans – it was full of Indians – so technically – it is THEIR state. If you want to study about being a Mexican – go to Mexico. If you love it so much and hate America – please leave.
Jake....very well said
if we omit people of certain races what will our history books contain? Study that!
So much for the "great American melting pot." Jake, you're a 'tard.
Texas was heavily populated by Mexicans, some of whom fought and died for independence. Many have more history on this land than and white man. They are about as interested in their history as anyone would be in geology. They are Texans, talk and wall as a Texan. There is as much difference between them and a wetback as one of us and a Russian. There's no guessing. One is native and one isn't. How could Arizona be so much different? There are natives of Mexican decent and many Indians of Mexican decent born and raised in Arizona and then there are those who come in the dark, are still Mexicans and feel the need to drag that anchor with them. They are the ones damaging quality of life for the Arizona natives, be they Indian, Hispanic, Mormon or a mix of all three.
I don't think that they're being told that their history doesn't matter. If these students want to study that history, good for them. Study hard in highschool, get into a good college, major in Latin-American history, get a doctorate in it.
You know what? Nobody cares about native americans and mexicans. Native Americans =The losers of all civilization. I have never known a race to have failed so bad and miserably in all of history.
Thank you, for proving my point. Your bigotted, poorly thought replies are exactly what I'm talking about. Where did I say I hated America? Even if I did, it's my right as an American to have that opinion. Where would you deport me to? Scotland? England? Sweden? Portugal? There's more to history than the White Anglo-Saxon one, and there's nothing wrong with offering a course on it. It wasn't a mandatory course, even at high school-level there's elective courses. Actually passing legislation banning the possibility of teaching it is un-American in my book.
Finally, a voice of reason. Thanks Steve.
Steve, you're welcome to have an opinion as long as it jives with the bigots from AZ
I live in Tucson and have to hear about this every single day where as most people reading this story live elsewhere. The problem with these classes, is they were not being taught by certified teachers and the ciriculum was based off of how oppressed the Latin community is by the U.S. Government and that they should embrace anarchy. Also, something that happened 300 shouldn't even be an argument. The land was aquired legally. The citizens became Americans, not Mexicans. If they wanted to go back and be a part of Mexico, it isn't that far away. Now that they are Americans, they have to abide by the same rules everyone else does. Like it or leave it.
Let them learn ( if they can ) their history, either way they are goign to flunk their history exams all paid by hard working american taxpayers. these mexicans are part of an inferior class who are dragging down the entire american system. They are lazy, and not very bright. they are good laborers to clean toiliets and pick strawberries, that's it. Entire school districts in major cities where hispanics reside in are dead last in Science, and math and English. they even flunk their spanish class because they dont know the difference between a verb and an adverb.
no more work here so go home.
"On Monday, hundreds of students from Tucson Magnet High School and from Pueblo, Cholla and Wakefield high schools walked out of morning classes and marched to the Tucson Unified School District’s headquarters to protest the removal of dozens of Mexican-American studies textbooks, as well as the state-ordered suspension of the Mexican-American studies program"
I assume that all of these students are achieving top scores in their reading, writting, math, and science classes. I assume that all of these high school students are ready for their college entrance exams.
every student in every school in America studies European history their entire school life
And I assume that these students have achieved top marks in it.
Nope, most of them snuck into the country ILLEGALLY, but AS USUAL, our government will cater to them and treat them better than it does its own citizens.....makes me sick
I'm tired of Mexicans, Latinos or whatever their called. Everytime an American says something about that illegal trash, people get offended. Most of them are illegal and should be deported ASAP. Americans don't know their own history, so why should we have to read about mexican-american history. Most latinos can't speak english, why do you think spanish is on so many products. Their in our country and they don't want to follow our laws. All this S*** just started since it's so many of them here. Americans need to take back our country and stop catering to illegals. You'e catering to criminals.
I doubt these books were being used in all classes. When I was in HS we learned about only American history which would include the many cultures that made this country. From Europeans to Latin Ameiricans. Wouldn't this "Mexican-American" studies be considered an elective? As in a class taken by choice? Not sure but if that is the case then why are some of the comments on here so narrow-minded and ignorant.
I agree if it is an elective class by choice. However I have a hard time believing that if there was a stricly Irish-American, White-American, British America... class that no doubt minority groups would scream racism!!!
The white race isthe most discriminated against race in this country.....if white people tried forming white-only colleges or TV channels, EVERY other race would be screaming bloody murder
Another piece of useless journalism that merely parrots back what someone says as the truth. How about if CNN actually does some investigative journalism for a change. Maybe buy some of the books and see what they say.
not to be out done by your worhtless observation
i understand...the arizona conservatives want to impose an education agenda in which mexican-americans are depicted as foreigners that do not belong in arizona, and that thay are dangerous so they should be kept from any form of political or economic power......the next move will be to add a chapter in biology books stating that white people was created by god and that mexicans and other dark skinned humans evolved from monkeys.......
This rather mild and perfectly reasonable step is just a smidgen of what you should expect when whites are told to meekly bend over and accept demographic doom like good little geldings.
And it's funny how lefties consider all conservative whites to be barely-disguised Nazis. I wonder how they'd react if the real thing showed up?
reo, you cann't hide your fear of having a mixed race descendant......or, it is your frustration of already having one?
"Latinos" to Y-T: "Waaaaaaaaah!"
My own neighborhood's in the process of being colonized by "migrants", and they're doing nothing but bring it down.
Joe to CNN community: "Waaaaaaaaa!"
Latinos, most the Mexicans, commit more crimes per 100 people than ANY other race in the world.....that is why the USA will look like a 3rd world country in about 20 years, thanks to these animals
Cultural education should be left to the families. If you are interested in your heritage, then go to the library and research it. Ask your relatives about their lives. The public education system should not pander to political correctness. If you disagree, then why are confederate flags not allowed near schools? It is a part of our heritage. For those who claim it is a symbol of racism, it was perverted by a few individuals. Good or bad, our history needs to be taught accurately and not through cultural eyes.
It is my heritage, and the heritage of all Latino-Americans, just as it is for all European-American, to know our stories. We were born on this land, and many of us have served our country, and many have died defending it. To keep any American's history out of the text books is to invite a social revolution. It's racist and embraces the hegemony of the white culture that wishes to be the majority in film, text, and all areas of American life. It's a typical white right wing agenda; that's all it is!!
Have you actually taken the time to look into what these classes are really teaching? Or did you just jump on the racist band wagon with the other idiots?
I am not sure about you, but I am an American. I was born here, and I will be buried here. My family originally hails from Spain, but my history is that of America. We may have arrived in this country through different means, but being a citizen means that you are an American. Your heritage is something that should come from your family. It shouldn't be taught in schools to create animosity because your ancestors happened to be live on land given or sold to the U.S. by Mexico. I am pretty sure that state history would cover the majority of what a student needs to learn, but if they want more knowledge they need to do what my family has done. Namely, research it.
Looks like the PC police are out in full force. Again, if you want to highlight one culture in a public school classroom you need to highlight ALL cultures. Once they start having: Irish-American, Armenian-American, Spanish-American, Italian-American, German-American, Austrian-/american, Russian-American, Egyptian-American, Canadian-American, French-American, Romanian-American, etc, etc, etc, classes then I am all for the Mexican-American classes. The inclusion of just one group could be argued as reverse racism. No one should be left out when studying about cultures. What makes the Mexican-American culture any more valid than the rest of the cultures in the states? Answer: none. The problem is the school board and politicians lack backbone to stand up to a minority of loud mouthed "advocates". I see a lot of mexican flags in the pictures to. Great. If Mexico is so epic why don't you go back and try living there for a while? I love the land of my ancestors (Romania/Hungary) but I'm not going to wave their flags like it's so amazing that I want to go back. This country is pathetic.
to quote a rock band that played at occupy DC from one of their songs, "We were all American's before the dashes came."
and for those who don't get it, the dashes are what are tearing this nation apart.
No, the advocates for the Mexican population and their dupes are pathetic, but I gudingly agree, we're getting that way.
Get over it!! People of color, whether Hispanic, or black, are also Americans! And we want our histories in the text books, and it will happen, period! By the way, and not surprising, Arizona was the last state in the union to proclaim Martin Luther King Junior Day a legal holiday; that sure says a lot about that states ideology!
If you want to learn the history of Mexico, THEN MOVE TO MEXICO!!!!!
THIS IS AMERICA, WE STUDY THE HISTORY OF THE USA!!!!
I'M AM FED UP WITH HAVING THE 22 MILLION PLUS ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THIS COUNTRY!!!! GO HOME!!!!
NO DREAM ACT!!!! NO AMNESTY, PERIOD!!!!
I'll vote for ya.
so you would deny the same access to freedom that your ancestors were given?
get a clue "Whateve".....our ancestors way back when came here with nothjing and built up this country.....the ILLEGALS sneak into here and financially drain the country.....by getting everything for FREE
Hmmm, so maybe in Mexico they should stop teaching the students American History.
It's people like you and all the other negative so called americans that make me sick. People like you make us americans look bad. I say let them all through if they want, they are the better and harder workers. They do the hard crappy jobs that the white man is too damn lazy to do.
95 out of 100 Mexicans sneak into this country for the FREE EVERYTHING, thats the "better opportunity" that they seek.....they cant get a job being a bus boy, landscaper, or drywall finisher in Mexico......if they came here to "truly" better themsleves and become Americanized, i wouldnt care.....but they dont, they are trying their hardest to turn America into another Mexico....if you cant see that, you are a total idiot
what you said seemed very loud, as it was written in all caps and with excessive use of the already overused exclamation point. but that's all i can say that it was, loud. oh, and tiny brained people such as yourself have ruined what the term "free expression," used to mean. yes it's here for you to express yourself, but should you? you seem uninformed and a tad aggressive, as my previous line would suggest. perhaps you should give commenting a pass now and again. not everybody reading every story needs to know how vacant you are upstairs.
Actually, ketrout, most high school curriculums require the study of European history as well. There's even an AP exam for it. Maybe that's because many Americans descend from Europe, who knows. So in Arizona, where 60% of the population is Latino, is it really that outlandish to offer Mexican-American studies? You need to relax.
Pay attention, man. It's not Mexico's history, numb nuts. We are talking about U.S. History. And may Americans of Mexican decent have contributed signifcantly toward our rich American History! Comprende?
Ignorance on the left ingnorance on the right... What is left? Children not being educated books being banned.. Tom sawyer was banned in certain schools.. I guess we finally learned on that one..
this is so sad, and we call ourselves a multicultural nation, pffffff
Then let's stop calling ourselves that, since it's never worked anywhere, anyway.
Some books don't belong in schools. Schools are suppose to teach "good" things, not hate and ...
As far as a class goes, wouldn't this type of class be as useful as a conversational Spanish class on the border?
If you read the contents of the banned classes they were clearly racist, divisive and separatist, not simply the history of a people or culture. Racism against Americans, black and white, by Latinos is widely accepted but shouldn't be. There are people who use the freedom of democracy against us and we should take better care of our systems of equality or we'll all suffer.
"Mexican Studies" – so they've banned all of the burrito cookbooks?
not all of them, breakfast burritos are still OK.
Except the ones with Salsa...
The three books mentioned are Neo-Marxist victimology narratives and typical of the content one finds in various ethnic studies ghettos at the post-secondary level. It is not surprising to see the reaction in AZ to this kind of stuff in high school curricula. I don't support banning books generally but it would be fascinating to know more about the context in which these books were presented. Did the ethnic studies program have a unit on Marxist propaganda and its place in the American civil rights struggle?
Thank you for wording my thoughts so eloquently.
There is a documentary about them called Precious Knowledge which explains more about how the books are used. You should check it out.
Neo-marxist victimology? I'll bet you pulled a brain muscle coming up with that one. You haven't read the books in question, yours is a knee-jerk reaction to what you perceive as liberalism run amok. Let the people of Arizona who are affected by this...hold on...need to take a breath first...."Neo-Nazi book burning mob" mentality that would ban these books.
Critical theory as it is used in the works at issue is explicitly Marxist. The authors certainly acknowledge their political positions on the left. I encourage everyone to study Marxism and its revisionist offshoots, particularly in the context of ethnic, culture, gender etc. studies. You can argue that such polemics are justified as means to your political ends, but don't get confused about what is really going on.
And by the way, there is nothing liberal to see here, quite the opposite. It is amusing how quickly the tables turn when ethnic essentialism turns out to be of use to the victim class.
Disclaimer: I'm white, 59 y.o., and have lived in/near DC my entire life. OK, that out of the way, I agree with taking the books out of the class room, but NOT with not having them available in the library. We, as a nation, under the direction of the ill-named Dept of Education, have sufficiently adulterated the public school systems of our country where they no longer TEACH the basics of reading, writing, arithmetic, logic, debate, critical thinking, etc, having abandoned that role for touchy-feely feel-goodism.
So by all means, please put the books in the libraries, and let those who have an interest read them and form clubs and discussion groups to further their learning to their hearts' content. But until and unless the public schools return to teaching the basics of developing life-long literacy and critical thinking skills, none of the rest of this matters in the real world.
Well, a great way to teach critical thinking skills would be to expose students to the writings of historically marginalized groups and dissect/discuss their views in the larger context of U.S. history, comparing and contrasting their narratives with those in mainstream history books.
A Mexican- American or an American, anything that proceeds the word American gives reson to question one's loyality.
Like German-American or Italian-American? There's nothing wrong with being proud of one's heritage. Remember, we're all humans, and our fore-fathers came from all over this planet.
Really? You have FOUR fathers?? Wow how did that happen??!
who are the true americans?
The rich ones. (At least as far as the Republican party is concerned.)
Some people need to decide whether they are Mexicans or Americans. If you decide Mexican, good back across the border try to fix that broken country and leave America for those of us who really love America.
As an Italian-American, married to an Irish-American, I'll be damned if some twit like you is going to tell me that putting my heritage in front of -American is treasonous. Unless you are Native-American, you are a fill-in-the-blank-American, so just pop the top on another Bud and shut the hell up.
Ok now greaseball. Stop watching those Rocky movies because we all know Italians started to make this country worse. See Jersey Shore.
Time to get with the (Approved curriculum) program, if you don’t like what they teach there is the alternative – home schooling.
Go Home Boy
have you looked at the curriculum the students are protesting for?
the beliefs and practices that dominate.
race lies at the very heart of American life.
factors of race, gender and class
that is the synopsis taken from the book themselves that the students are protesting about.
now, when they refer to race, domination, etc
are they talking about all Americans? ie Indian, Black, Irish, Chinese OR JUST THE WHITES.
I'm white, and I'm not racist or into domination. My daughter is half-white.
But I still do not like the content of these High School books.
And that does not make me racist.
It is important for Americans to learn and mix with other cultures. Big cities like NYC, DC have a mix of cultures, but in other areas we feel so cut out from the rest of the world. And ethnic studies should be compulsory for all, not just for ethnic groups. Everybody should be required to study 1-2 ethnic cultures in school/university. Just a thought.
Let's force the Chinese to learn about other cultures too, because we need to distract them from their meteoric rise by introducing idiotic American PC values.
True. Chinese, Indians etc may need to learn about non-asian cultures. Mexican americans learn about the chinese/indian/asian culture. etc etc... make it compulsory to learn about a culture different from yours. :)
look at the content of what is being taught before you preach from you high-horse Pachi T.
Hitler banned books... People watched and spewed unintelligent factoids...they used their children to forward their movement... Tell me will you allow this to happen here in america....
I'm from New York and live in LA now and it isn't Americans who are unclear on what inclusion is. New York is fantastic, multi-cultural, filled with many languages and cultures. LA is all Latino all the time and if a Latino person does something, anything, you're called a racist if you question it in any way. Latinos are the racists not Americans. I mean, look at this congressional group – there are American congresspeople and their main purpose is to further the goals of Mexicans, even if illegal. They don't even realize their duty is to the US. People in other parts of the country are clueless about what's going on.
That is why people are graduating with some much debt out of college because students have to take so many B.S. classes that have nothing to do with their major. Please tell me why in the hell as an engineering major do I have to take a psy/soc, foreign language, African-America studies? It all about money its not about "making more rounded students". This is why contries like China and India are kicking our A s s e s in math and science.
Papa, you take other classes so that you'll have a better chance of being a well-rounded, knowledgeable adult. Clearly, you weren't required to take those extra classes.
It is amazing how many people are confusing Mexican-AMERICAN studies with the Mexican studies. The history of political activism in the Mexican-American culture is important so that students gain some knowledge of the leaders of America that have arisen from areas and communities just like their own. It is equally important to have students gain knowledge of other national heroes and leaders from ALL ethnic groups. We should celebrate great Americans of all backgrounds.
i am Mexican-AMERICAN. I have never been to Mexico, have no interest of ever going there. I am proudly an American and am proud of the diversity that we as a nation espouse.
Having a whitewashed curriculum or teaching an incomplete and inaccurate history only hurts our students and instead of moving us forward.
have you looked at the content of what is being taught?
The more we dwell on it and make it an issue, the worse it will get. Like an open sore that is not allowed to heal.
The irony here is that these kids who are being fed one sided information regarding their "heritage" won't get the same information regarding US History. I'm not going to say "mexican go home" but, I will say learn the history where you live first, then expand your knowledge from there. Its unfortunate that these kids are all going to be tainted by the self serving administrators and politicians who have created this mess in the first place.
That's horrible. Who's going to tell the tattoo guys that they're out of work?
English-American history is vastly more entertaining and useful, but I've never once seen that specific class offered at my high school. Strictly English without any other Euros or anything else whatsoever. Most Americans probably don't know who the King was during the American Revolution, but hey there's some native Mexican ethnic group that may or may not exist and that's important.
This country was an English colony for the first ~176 years, with our entire financial and judicial system based on England's, but let's forget all that and teach the Mexicans about their failures.
Critical Race Theory,
Occupied America: A History of Chicanos
Pedagogy of the Oppressed
what is the summary of these 3 books that were approved and then pulled and now the students are protesting their return. That is the crux of the argument, is it not?
beliefs and practices that dominate.
race lies at the very nexus of American life.
factors of race, gender and class
Only took about 20 attempts to get past CNN monitors the subject of the three books in question. -DONE.
has anyone looked at the summary of the three books approved and then pulled?
Also, CNN, DO YOU THINK MY POST MIGHT HAVE A LEGITIMATE THOUGHT WORTH POSTING?? since you are not posting, again, replies you do not approve.
oh, that one made it. let's try again to examine what is the content of these books for High School that might have caused them to be pulled.
CNN will not let post the summary of these 3 books that the students are protesting about. Interesting CNN...
You most likely had a word in your post that hadsome naughty bits inside it. CNN's Nanny filter doesn't like words that contain t it, like consti tution. Or as sumption. Or circu mstance.
Well, we don't have any choice but learn to love each other and live with them! NO Choice! Because God made us in different cultures and colors, foods etc... We should thankful for this that we have different tastes...but I know we have many problems here but have to accept. God test us to see how can we handle with them? Face with them ! Sorry! WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT!
Huh? What does "god" have to do with this? It was a school district pulling text books and dropping classes. No diety involved.
Changes in pigmentation is a result of evolution. Not god.
@ noolibs – I think it's time to check in to your nearest behavioral health facility, I think your having a flare up.
There is an approved curriculum for a reason.
Here is the curriculum the students are protesting for; the subjects of the 3 books in question.
Lori....... you are boring us to death.
You can't lock up knowledge. Written word is written word, and is available to find, unless it's burned. The example Ms. Gonzalez quoted regarging the replacement books is a perfect example, the O'odam people, with two of those kids actually in the class. Restore the studies, AZ.
The state-issued history book says that the Native American O'odam people are extinct in Arizona? What kind of bonehead put that book together? The O'odam people were often formerly referred to as the Papagos, and they are certainly not extinct. Their nation is very much alive and well in southern Arizona.
Most useless fact in the history of the internet.
No fact is useless. Only the willfully ignorant would think such a thing.
Wow, that's about as deep as the useless fact posted above.
@charles....most useless person on the internet.
Thanks for proving my point. Why don't you get off the internet and go back to watching The Price is Right. Why open your mind and learn anything new when there's TV to watch?
Oh God – that Price is Right insult cut me to the bone man. But that's still the most useless fact – actually I'll reduce it from fact to 'bit of trivia' because it's so worthless. Maybe you can go watch Jeopardy if you're into useless trivia.
@ Steve... biggest d0ucheblast in the galaxy
Aww, it's so cute when all of the illegal aliens demand something when they aren't even citizens. Please go back to Mexico now!
Yeah, the AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION is full of illegal aliens...
Yeah, because, you know, all the high school students, and teachers, in these Arizona schools are Illegals.
Without Mexicans, who will ride the tamale tricycle down my street?
Your Dad could do it, but I think your sister would bring in more money...
Well, my dad is a retired US Air Force pilot and my sister is the VP of a university, but perhaps your mom could take a break from her herpes treatment to get out there and sling some tacos.
Just BS. They just should teach instead of wasting time and money on things that are unimportant. This is the US. If somebody does not like he/she is more than welcome to go back to whrever they came from.
LOL Most of the comments fit right in with Nazi Germany.
Really? Are you a Nazi scholar or do you just make generalizations based on your puny intellect?
Hurt dog holles, punk.
Wow! You proved how smart you are! Idiot.
@charles.....White trailer trash talking!
You have no idea what Nazi Germany was like. My Polish friends parents do and they say this is not related; go away and stop saying you know what a Nazi is.
Oh, cmon daniel, we all know you dont have any friends...
Actually I live in a home that I own outright with no mortgage, just me and my wife, unlike you, renting a one room studio with 23 of your extended family members in there making tamales to sell on the street.
LOL, just the sort of racist, ill-educated, ignorant comment you would come to expect from one with so limited an intelligence as Charles...
You are indeed worthless.
@charlie sweetie.... did you miss your NASCAR event today? Did you run out of bud lite today, pig?
Karla Vasq is quite the character. You're another one of the brown people who think that racism is a one way street. Your NASCAR and Bud Light references are NO DIFFERENT from the taco and burrito references that you find so offensive. Or are you too culturally proud to realize this?
Children who are allowed to learn according to their interests will find more things to be interested in. Yes, keep the basics required too- but allow students to have their electives be by their choice and the subject they wish to study..
Back off! Intelligent comments are not allow here! Only NASCAR personalities can input.
You deem intelligent comments those who defend stupidity and mediocrity?
Even when those course studies teach seperatism, racism, and other "isms"? Would you be so flippant if there were white-aimed courses teaching similar ideals? I have a feeling you'd be protesting with all the other Latinos.
let's just go back to segregated classes.
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