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Opinion: Tim Wise: What is post-racial? Reflections on denial and reality
Tim Wise writes that believing in a post-racial U.S. requires "unwillingness to stare truth in the face."
January 31st, 2012
05:27 PM ET

Opinion: Tim Wise: What is post-racial? Reflections on denial and reality

Editor’s note: Tim Wise is the author of six books on race, including his most recent: Dear White America: Letter to a New Minority.  He tweets at @timjacobwise.

By Tim Wise, Special to CNN

(CNN) - Being asked to describe what “post-racial” means is a bit like being asked to describe a leprechaun, cold fusion or unicorns: we know what is meant, but, if we are willing to be honest, we also know that none of the four describe something real, something tangible, something true.

To me, “post-racial” is little more than a nonsense term devised by people (mostly white, frankly), who would simply rather not deal with the ever-present reality of racism and ongoing racial discrimination.

It is a diversion, intended to paper over the divisions that have long roiled our nation, and continue to do so today.

Though some sincerely believe this describes America’s reality– especially since a man of color was elected president - the illogic of believing this signals the veritable death of racism should be apparent: after all, we certainly wouldn’t claim that sexism and patriarchy had been smashed in Pakistan, India, Great Britain, Israel or the Philippines just because they all have elected women as heads of state.

Perceptions of discrimination a black and white story

To believe that the United States is post-racial requires an almost incomprehensible inability or unwillingness to stare truth in the face.

How can we be post-racial, after all, when the typical white family has 20 times the net worth of the typical black family, and 18 times that of the typical Latino family?

How can we be post-racial when studies find that even white men with criminal records are more likely to be called back for job interviews than black men without them, even when all other credentials and personal characteristics are indistinguishable?

How can we be post-racial when evidence suggests that the lightest-skinned immigrants earn roughly 17% more than the darkest-skinned immigrants, even when qualifications and levels of productivity are the same?

How can we be post-racial when Asian Americans, Latinos and blacks with college degrees are anywhere from one-third more likely to nearly twice as likely to be unemployed as their white counterparts? When schools serving mostly students of color are more than ten times as likely to be places of concentrated poverty, and far more likely to have the least experienced teachers?

How can we be post-racial when people of color continue to be so disproportionately targeted by our nation’s drug laws?

Although whites use drugs just as often as blacks (and more often than Latinos), it is people of color who comprise nearly 90% of persons incarcerated for a drug possession offense.  And it is people of color who are disproportionately stopped and searched for drugs and other illegal contraband, even though they are no more likely (and sometimes less likely) to be in possession of such items than whites are.

How can we be post-racial, when presidential candidates are either too afraid to raise these issues publicly, for fear of voter backlash (as with the Democratic incumbent), or willing to shamelessly exploit racial anxieties and resentments (as with at least one of the primary Republican challengers) by calling President Obama the “food stamp” president, or suggesting that poor black kids have “no habits of work” and should be made to clean their own schools as janitors?

This, despite the fact that most people in poor communities do work, and black teenage unemployment rates (now well over 40 percent) reflect only those black teens who are searching for jobs, and thus, by definition already have a solid work ethic, lacking only the opportunities to put that ethic into practice.

Sadly, the claims of America’s equanimity and post-raciality are not really new.

Even in the early 1960s, before the passage of civil rights legislation, at a time when we were still a formal apartheid state, polls found that a vast majority percent of whites already believed that blacks had just as good a chance to obtain a good job, housing or a good education as we or our children did.

In other words, white denial - one might say, delusion - on the matter of the nation’s racial reality has been longstanding.

It’s hard to say when or if we will actually arrive at that place called “post-racial”, or, better yet, post-racism.

But until whites begin naming streets in our neighborhoods after Martin Luther King, and naming the schools that our children attend after him (rather than fearing that such a designation might signify that our kids attend a “ghetto school”), I know for certain we are not “post-racial” yet.

 The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Tim Wise.

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  1. sayer

    Yes.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  2. OregonTom

    Culture not race seems to divide more than race does.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
    • greebo

      I think so too...

      February 1, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

      So Red States v Blue States, pro-life v pro-choice, pro-deportation v pro-immigration. I agree cultural issues divide us, but even if individuals disagree on some issues, blacks and Hispanics and progressives of all colors tend to side with the Dems and rich white folks and religious conservatives go with the Reps, so, it kind of still looks like the racial divide is big in America.

      February 1, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Don't matter what logic you use, some will always see race and use it as an issue.. By the way Ghost, maybe you missed this during your Ivy League college courses, but Hispanic is not a race..

      February 1, 2012 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

        Hispanic is... many things you know nothing about Kelly.

        February 1, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Educate me Ghost, what are the racial characteristics of the Hispanic race?

        February 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

        Hispanics can be black, they can be caucasian, they can be a mixture of many of the Native American peoples of Mesoamerica and the Europeans who invaded their lands. The Spanish had a whole cast system to explain the degrees of racial purity or diversity in a person living in their colonies. So, yes the word Hispanic, in a broader sense, has to with race, with the Spanish language and culture, and with the cultures of all the nations and groups that emerged from the former Spanish colonies. Glad to be of help in your continuing education, Kelly.

        February 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Thank you so much.. And you tried so hard to defend your position that Hispanic is a race, but eventually admitted that it is not.. Your putting that Ivy league education to good use..

        February 1, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

        KELLY Hispanic is a race, but not in the black and white sense that you white supremacists see everything in. Try reading some Jose Vasconcelos "The Cosmic Race". It is a concept similar to that of the melting pot, but without the whole white must come out on top twist.

        February 1, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Try an try as you like, Hispanic is not a race. Ask any anthropoligist.. It is a cultural background that any race can belong to.

        February 1, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

        KELLY It is not as easy as that. You find a dictionary that tells you that Hispanic means a cultural backdrop into which many races can fit in. This is true, but for every Hispanic who shares the common language and culture, the meaning of what it means to be a member of this culture changes with respect to his experiences based on race to the point were many do not want to be associated with the term Hispanic but choose a more specific label. In a sense, this mimics the same phemomenon you see with the word American. You will agree that the word American is not meant as a racial label, but too many, the word American means white. You have to differentiate and add words like African-American, Mexican-America, etc, to incoorporate other meanings into the word, but the word American means white by race to many like you and to many who understand the racial bigotry of you and your majority. Hispanic and Latino, in the end, are just labels invented by people like you. You can have it if you want to. I still contend you are a bigot trying to deny your bigotry.

        February 1, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Gohst, you seem to think that just saying something over and over again makes it true.. After all the posts and comments here you still cannot cite any evidence of your claim that I am bigoted.. Your beginning to sound very desperate.. But lets talk about this current post of yours. If what you say is true, that White America is so evil, then why do millions of immigrants, most of whom are non-white, struggle to get here? Why don't you warn them that this is an evil place where they will be treated badly solely because of their skin color? The Hispanic people in my community struggle to get their family here.. Why?? Your post flies in the face of logic, but I forget, you do not deal in facts..

        February 1, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

        KELLY – Again you resort to ambiguity and you deny your bigotry, but by not coming right out to defend the civil rights of minorities and by attacking those who defend them, you define yourself as a passive-aggressive bigot. You want the facts about your bigotry, go see a therapist.

        February 2, 2012 at 7:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        There you go demonstrating that Ivy League education again.. "Passive Aggressive"... wow, thats really smart..

        February 2, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
  3. The Guru

    ARE THE BLACK PEOPLE ON HERE READING THESE IDDIOTIC RACIST DRIVEN COMMENTS !!!THIS IS WHAT WHITE PEOPLE THINK ABOUT US!!!! THIS FOOL JOE JUST SAID! Blacks lack the "FYA" gene. This is found in ALL other races and is just one reason why many scientists consider them animals.
    HE BELIEVES THIS!!!! HE BELIEVES THIS ABOUT US!!! ALL MY HARD WORK AT EMORY UNIVERSITY WORKINIG ON MY JD /MBA GRADUATING IN THE TOP 8% OF MY CLASS HE BELIEVES THIS AND OTHERS ON THIS SITE AGREE.....WOW! THIS IS WHAT THEY REALLY THINK ABOUT US...

    February 1, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Lulu15

      You are a DA? Dude, are you serious. How can you defend or prosecute people with your anger?

      February 1, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
      • The Guru

        No, I'm not a DA, and If you read my post my friend is one the Asst. DA in one of the local counties here in Atlanta. Now your question is?

        February 1, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
    • greebo

      "WOW! THIS IS WHAT THEY REALLY THINK ABOUT US..."

      No, it's what a few ignorant jerks think...

      February 1, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      GURU represents less than 1% of successful blacks.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
    • bubo

      Liar! Educated people don't type in caps.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      I am truly shocked... That a black can read and write. Amazing!

      February 1, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
      • The Guru

        Well Rick there is a first time for everything; in fact there are some who can even do arithmetic!

        February 1, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
      • cw

        and i am trully shocked that you can type, and think at the same time!!! WILL WONDERS NEVER CEASE?!

        February 1, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • electroguy

      We think about decent smart black people, not you brotha!

      February 2, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      All your hard work at "Emory" university hasn't taught you how to spell idiotic apparantly.

      Isn't emory a nail filing board? So you went to a university to learn how to do nails? Sorry, all the jobs I have require fluency in english and basic critical thinking skills. Oh yeah, it deals with the public and cash so no angry ex cons will be hired until Eric Holder forces me to.

      February 5, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  4. MHPilgrim

    I teach college in upstate NY. Every year a greater percentage of my students are mixed...all sorts of mixes, black/white, white/asian (me), asian/black, hispanic/black, hispanic/white, native/white, south asian/black etc etc etc. 2 more generations and the question of race will pretty much disappear in the US....
    ....will the question of class also disappear? doesn't look like it.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • bubo

      I think that's a very special situation. We are long ways off before the races mix.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
      • MHPilgrim

        respectfully, I think you are wrong. Mixed race kids were very unusual only 30 years ago. Now look at all of our sports heroes that are mixed race, people don't even blink at the idea of mixed race kids. Seal and Heidi are on the front cover of every magazine at the super-market...it is the age we are coming into.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Cyrus

      NY doesn't represent the whole country. As a fellow New Yorker, I know that too.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Bob

    The supragranular layer of the brain (outer layer) is on average 15% thinner in blacks when compared to whites. Its convolutions are also fewer and more simplistic.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  6. Tony

    CNN lies about prescreening their comments. Ive posted 5 comments and none of them made the board except hello

    February 1, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  7. greebo

    I'm willing to bet that most people have more of a cultural bias than a racial one. I'm sure you don't have a problem with individuals who have a job, responsibilities, and treat others with respect. People of every skin tone are in that category. People of every skin tone are also in the ghetto, gansta, "a dolla make me holla" category...

    February 1, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  8. Paulie

    Here is a real social problem. Black people voted democrat when democrats used to hang black men from trees by the thousands. Republicans freed the slaves and fought for civil rights. Guess what democrats did. Both parties didnt magically switch sides either just because a few senators did in the 60s.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Lulu15

      Good point. Also, most black Americancs are chirstians. In the past they voted for the republicans because their values matched the republican values. in 2008 they voted for Obama because he is black.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
  9. Adam

    There is one minor error in this article. The author refers to Margaret Thatcher as Great Britain's "elected head of state" but this is incorrect. Elizabeth II is the UK's head of state and Margaret Thatcher was the UK's head of government.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  10. Mom

    So my 15 year old white daughter goes to public school. Racism and reverse racism is very much alive with the high school generation.

    The black girls that cheer and work at Hollister get along perfectly well with the white girls. I wonder why that is.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  11. ChuckB

    White people biting their lips and waiting until they get into a private room with only other white people in it before expressing their true feelings doesn't pass for improved racial relations or that we have overcome racial prejudice. Because of being able to be in that room, I can attest to the fact that we are not in a post-racial era. Was communism in the Soviet Union secured because after 75 years there was little public dissent?

    February 1, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Jerry

      So it is different if you just openly make those statements?

      February 1, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  12. labandme

    So called people of colour (blacks) have the same issues in every country they live in. Even in Africa. Maybe they should stop whining and look at the real reasons. There is two high of a percentage of blacks that are disfunctional, useless and violent. More so than any other group it seems. They can only fix it themselves but of course they can't or won't. They'd rather blame everyone else.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • bubo

      Low IQ doesn't help.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • ChuckB

      It is "too," not two. A spell check doesn't corect for incorrect word choice.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
      • labandme

        Yeah Chuck, I noticed that as soon as I posted.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
  13. Anon

    This is what people of my generation call a "troll post". Great Tim! You are so insightful to point out racial issues that have been a prevalent part of not just American society, but the whole world's baggage. We should get angry! We should not stand for this! We should... Oh wait. You didn't offer any solutions other than naming "our" (as in White people I guess?) streets and schools Martin Luther King Jr. (Which, last I checked, the streets and schools belong to everyone of every race, not just white and black people). Nope. You decided to use your editorial position at CNN to troll everyone with a bunch of stats and inflammatory remarks about the state of racism today and how unfair it all is just to rile us all up.

    I have no problem with you pointing out the very real social problems facing us today. But if you are going to do it, don't scream and yell about how unfair it all is without bringing up any suggestions on how I, or someone not in a position of great financial or political power, might be able to change the situation. And don't hand me any of that "Well, you have to make the impact everyday" crap either. Non-racist Americans as a collective body have tried that since the 1960's and we see how well that has worked... According to the intro of this article, you are an expert in this field. You've written six books on race. Well then "expert", what should we do? What's your grand scheme to eliminate racism in America? Trollers gonna troll...

    February 1, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  14. woodrow

    Racism exists among all races. What goes around comes around. The way to stop racism is ALL races stop racism. This is example what Micheal Jackson said in his song, "Man in the Mirror", and what MLK said to Malcolm X. You reap what you sow, etc.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  15. WisdomVS

    Amazing, it seems there is now far more racism in the North than in the South.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Paulie

      Ever been down south? Most of the blacks live in the inner cities and dont mix in the suburbs as much as they do here. I went to OBX (North Carolina) and didnt see a black person the entire week.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • ChuckB

      Oh, please. A few years ago my wife, a Latina, went to a grocery store in Columbia, SC. As she was checking out, the clerk kept telling her, “You should go to the store on the other side of town where your people go; you'll be more comfortable." My wife didn't understand what she was being told (she had no experience with society in the sunny South), so she kept responding, "No, I am fine here."

      February 1, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
      • Paulie

        Yeah people from say NYC have no idea what they mean by "tolerance" down there. We dont have tolerance here in the tri-state area we have equality.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
  16. Paulie

    We already paid reparations its called housing and public housing. How did that work out for us as a country? Like I said remember when someone says "I cant afford it in this economy" what they mean is "I cant afford it under the Obama administrations economy." because before Obama was elected people were not really saying this!

    February 1, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  17. David

    Hey I am all for equality but when equality is not wanted on both sides then how can whites do anything about it. You all blame whites for being racist or just not caring but when I go anywhere and blacks or asians automaticaly seperate themselves how do you fight that. People have to be blind totheir own colors as well as others. This country is about freedom so saying someone should stop being racist is wrong cause this is what this country is about freedom of religion freedom of government control and freedom from the pressures of the popular vote AND if you want different go back to england or africa.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  18. andrew.peter

    Tim Wise is confusing Racism with Prejudice, which is a preconceived opinion on someone based on their attributes, before the victim is able to make their case. Prejudice will always be common, and rightly so, but this does not have to be associated with race or gender. It's vital that we be discerning at every opportunity for success, but not racist. I may pick a white excon for a job over a black excon only because of my own past experiences and encounters, not because he's black.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  19. Matt

    Forensic Scientists can determine race by examining the skull. The black skull most closely resembles that of an ape's.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
    • bubo

      OK, bad joke?

      February 1, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
    • dom

      Yes forensics can tell race from skull remains using the maxillary, the nasal cavity and the incisors. None of which resemble an ape. Now it doesn't take a scientist to see from your claim that you are of a very weak genetic line with low intelligence.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
  20. The Guru

    @CW why are you even trying to explain to these people. This is the true face of America what you read on Blogs is reflected in your getting pulled over so just read these blogs so you can know how you are perceived when you begin to feel comfortable minding your business and trying to live right and love a country where so many of the majority deep down hate your existence. BTW sorry you went through that…I can definitely relate been searched numerous times leaving the library in college late at night…

    February 1, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • cw

      i wasn't trying to explain. merely pointing out my experiences...Caucasians cannot see our point of view from their mountain top so i don't expect them to relate or empathize. But maybe just 1 that read my response will not teach their child to hate black men, and that all men are created equally. Just 1 is all it takes sometimes......SOMETIMES....

      February 1, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
      • The Guru

        LOOK AT THE POSTS ON HERE!!!THIS WHAT THEY REALLY THINK ABOUT ME AND YOU WHEN WE WALK IN FOR A INTERVIEW OR LOOK TO GET PROMOTED AND RECOGNIZED FOR OUR HARD WORK...MAN NOTHING HAS CHANGED! LOOK AT WHAT JOE AND MATT HAVE POSTED....I FEEL YOU ON YOUR POST BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THESE BLOGS ARE WHAT THEY REALLY THINK...IM REALLY MORTIFIED CW...THIS ARTICLE WAS ACTUALLY A POSITIVE ONE DEPICTING WHAT WE AS BLACK PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW AND LOOK AT THE HATRED BEING POSTED....

        February 1, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
  21. Lulu15

    Can someone tell the black rappers like Snoopy that their music encourages crime and drug use. They are really the ones keeping black youth from progressing.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      That would be actin white yo.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Paulie

      Snoop Dogg is not a convicted felon but Martha Stewart is. Thats an example of a stereotype but neither person is very stereo-typical.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Lulu15

        Your kidding right? Snoopy waves his gun and smokes pot in his videos and the black youth watch this nonsense everyday. How many white teenage girls idolize Martha Stewart?

        February 1, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
      • cw

        good point.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Paulie

        I'm kidding around but I'm just saying skin color does not reflect criminal record necessarily.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
    • dom

      just like Ozzy made all the white kids worship satan and eat bat heads? The same kind of nonsense was said about Elvis back in the day. try again.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
  22. Tony

    Hello

    February 1, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  23. Lee S

    So, you either identify yourself as a race or you have racial blindess. YOU CANNOT HAVE BOTH. You know whom I am talking to.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
  24. Iwonder

    What the entire human species needs to get through its collective head is that there is no such thing as race. We are all practically indistinguishable from one another. Our biology is for all intensive purposes the same, and any alien from another world would figure us all to be the same. In fact that alien would probably be so puzzled by us. It would ask in contemplation, why do these creatures so small and perceptually no different from one another, faction off into their deluded concepts of race, nation, faction, and tribe. That alien would shed a tear if it could, for that tiny insignificant spec of dust know as the earth with its singular species of thinkers dusted upon it. We must all come to grips with our place in the cosmos together because if we do not we will perish by our hands alone.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
  25. Joe

    Blacks lack the "FYA" gene. This is found in ALL other races and is just one reason why many scientists consider them animals.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Tha Chikin

      You are an epic d-bag!

      February 1, 2012 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
  26. ShareItBrotherShareIt

    The end of the age is near. Single white men and single black women can't find spouses because the white women are marrying black guys. The people of the United States should follow the advice of Abraham Lincoln who said, "Black people should not vote, hold office, or marry white people."

    February 1, 2012 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
  27. The Guru

    @ MIKE I’m not even going to call you what I would like to but to even say some dumb crap like you just said I’m at a loss for words. I have a MBA and a JD from Emory University and I'm BLACK and not one of my highly educated six figure plus a year black friends I know wants anything for free!!! nor do they have 20 babies or use crack in fact my friend is Asst. DA in Cobb County and she prosecutes an equal amount of whites for crack and meth!!!....thanks for reminding me of how white people really see me when I walk in the room.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      Please don't let the idiots win.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Lulu15

      You are the perfect example of how far our country has come. You and your colleagues should go into the ghetto and speak to the black fathers and black youth and encourage them to better themselves. Let them know there is a future for them.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Congrats GURU. You and your colleagues represent less than 1% of the black population. Have a nice day.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  28. cw

    I am a African-American male first and foremost. I've been reading a lot of the comments on here and I tend to agree with some of them. I do believe your life is what you make it, and if you don't get out and get it, a better life will not be given to you. There are African Americans that are lazy, manage to accomplish nothing in a day other than smoking weed and playing xbox, being ignorant on a street corner, or otherwise shaming our race. BUT RACISM DOES EXIST. I was recently pulled over for having a tail light out. Now granted I was wrong..But the officer claimed he smelled weed in my car...I've never smoked marijuana in my car. So i consented to the search, which turned up nothing, and after 3 other officers arrived for little ol' me, one of them admitted my car did not smell like weed and there didn't know why i was being searched..But i do..the only thing that made the situation some what better is when they left, and an older white gentlemen approached me and apologized for what I had gone through, which was very shocking to say the least. African Americans are constantly passed over not just for jobs, but promotions, and raises in pay as well. Being under employed is an ongoing problem in our community. Do African American fathers need to step up and be apart of their children's lives? absolutely...Do black males need to stop making excuses and get an education? Of course..Is that path to a better job and that other "America" as easy as the path for Caucasians? No.

    I say that to say this, the only thing that will bring an end to racism, not just here in America, but world wide is a catastrophic event that will force the HUMAN RACE to come together in order to survive. At this point, that's the only race i'm willing to proudly claim.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
    • RaineOn

      Wonder if we will ever get beyond this...or if we will remain in our infancy od Humanity?

      February 1, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
      • Bob

        I've come to think until we all intermarry and become one race, it will never die. And even then, people will STILL find some reason to hate someone else.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • The Guru

      @MATT...man you sound like a one of those idiots who has no education whatsoever...you sound like those Prisoners we use to go help in college. Blacks skulls most commonly resemble that of a monkey...LMAO!

      February 1, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Patrick

        Prisoners should not be capitalized Mr. college graduate.

        February 1, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        You are an embarrassing yourself, please stop..

        February 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cameron Poe

      cw,
      I am a white male. And I probably look like your stereotypical white male. This situation has happened to me before. The fact of the matter is that there are overzealous cops out there looking to make a bust. Are they racists? Some may actually be and some may not. The cop who pulled that crap on me was another white male so in my case he was clearly just overzealous. In your case I can not speak because I have never walked a day in your shoes. I am sure it is easy to jump to the conclusion that he was a racist. And you maybe right. However, not all white people are racists. In fact many of us are totally disgusted by the racism that still exists in today's America. But, broad sweeping generalizations and stereotypes by either side are what perpetuate this situation. We must educate the ones who lack it and disregard the ones who are unwilling to change. But please do not group us all together. Side note I am also a southerner.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOHN IN CINCINNATI

      Yes black men are more likely to be pulled over than white men. Look who is doing the profiling. Men who put their lives on the line everyday. Men who are receive little pay compared to the high risk they endure. What kind of men are these? Cops – arrogant power hungry men who carry guns.

      February 1, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Tha Chikin

    I am so sick and tired of being sick and tired. It doesn't matter if you are purple with orange polka dots... you are still human. Why can't we all just GET OVER IT ALREADY?!?!

    February 1, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Breck

      I'm with you, but the problem is that not all people agree with us, so we cannot as a whole get over race.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Tha Chikin

        😦 That's really sad. Ya know, every time I think about the whole racisim thing... it just seems so grade school to me.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • S.E.D.C. Mom

      Bet cha i can guess that you are of the caucasion persuasion.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
      • Patrick

        I would agree. Seeing as blacks in general seem to be the ones keeping racism alive.

        February 1, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

        PATRICK I guess Patrick goes into a corner to avoid watching whenever one of the Republican chosen currently running for their party's ticket says some dumb racist #@#$#. All I have to do every morning is turn on FOX to hear racist crap start flying. And it is all white people all the time on any FOX network or radio station (sure sometimes they have a token Hispanic or Asian, but they love to parrot the racist #$#* that their white counterparts fling). So, Patrick, get your head out of your ... and get real.

        February 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • aria

      It would be ever so nice to just get over it. Being a 24 yr black women with no kids, I find it hard to get over. I think its truly sad that many white and black ppl are still racist but i think its way worse to be white washed and refuse to see it at all. racism is everywhere all the time. " its hard out here for a pimp" and its hard out here for a black and its hard out here for a woman i do not see it changing.

      February 1, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      WOW, such educated people post here.. Using those big words to spout their beliefs..

      February 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

        KELLY Yes, we know you are intimidated by intellect. Now, what imaginary college did you say you attended?

        February 1, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        I never said what college I attended.. There you go making things up again.. Did they teach you that in your Ivy League school, or do you just lie naturally??

        February 1, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • THE GHOST OF CESAR CHAVEZ

        KELLY So did you or did you not go to college? If you did, good, but it didn't help build a moral compass in you. If you didn't, well, I could put you down in so many ways and start chipping away at your self-esteem, but that's not what I am here for. Sure, I admit I like stomping on bigots, but my cause is to defend the rights of my kids, not to waste time on adults who lack compassion for their fellow human beings. So, whatever, just come out and say it. What is your issue with minorities?

        February 1, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Ghost, you seem to think that if you say something it is automatically true.. If I am such a bigot and have said bigoted things here the quote me something.. But you will not do it because you cannot do it. I have no problem with minorities, if I did I would never attend family fuctions (here is the hint of my racial background you have been waiting for),, I have a problem with those who claim to be educated, but spout nonsense..

        February 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
  30. REALITY

    Ok in regards to the 'reparations' comment, LMFWAO! Really? So you expect us whites who by the way none of us were around during slavery to pay you blacks who none of you were around during slavery for what? Because you feel oppressed? LMFWAO Again! between all the college funds, scholarships, affirmative action, rainbow coalition, BET, NAACP, Just to name a few, how can you feel oppressed?, most not all but most people of color CHOOSE to live in poverty were talking about people of color now right? because theres plenty of white trash out there too, im not leaving them out but were talking about 'post racial america lol', they choose to live on welfare, they choose to be criminals they choose all these things, as for reparations which is an apology in my opinion, i will apologize for what approximately 3% of my ancestors did to approximately 1% of your population 150 years ago when your people apologize for what 90% of your people are doing to approximately 99% of my people today... such bull$%^& whatever get over it already!

    February 1, 2012 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Paulie

      Why does everyone have to be so politically correct? When people say they cant afford something "in this economy" what they really mean is the Obama administrations lousy economy that we have had to endure since Obama was elected. No one was saying "in this economy" before Obama won the Presidency were they? That was because from 2001-2007 the economy was still relatively stable. Your average liberal would never admit it though. Both republicans and democrats voted in favor of the wars too so they share the burden of its debt equally.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Mark

        Gee, the economy was pretty lousy and failed under Bush, except for his wealthy corporate buddies.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
      • Bob

        You can think Cheneybush for 750,000 jobs lost per month as President Obama took office, and then you can damned well thank him for restoring job growth.

        If McCain had taken office, we would have a Great Depression now that would put the old one to shame.

        Thank God for President Obama.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Breck

        The economy was stable until about 2007 when the housing market collapsed. I got laid off because of it, but I do not think the Obama administration is entirely responsible for the current economy. For sure the current administration is dealing with a rough economy, but I think we need to look to the events before the collapse to find a cause, not the action of the following administration for a cause.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Paulie

        Mark: from 2001-2007 we had 5% average or lower unemployment. From the end of 2008 to 2012 we have average 9% at one point it was 10% - its only 8.5% now because Obama could be on his way out.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  31. Johnny Trigger

    There is one presidential candidate talking about these issues of society's discrimination of race... it is Ron Paul. He is the only candidate calling for an end to the War on Drugs and the Death Penalty... and he rightfully points out that these two issues result in disproportionate impact on blacks.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Gee. it couldn't be that blacks are naturally more prone to activities that would get them into the above mentioned situations.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
      • KCRic

        Of course not! Have you ever seen Africa? It's a wonderful place – better than that white Europe and much safer. It's the most developed continent in the world and they've never committed genocide (on multiple occasions), rape, robbery, homicide, or anything like that. There are absolutely no gangs in Africa either. It's an awesome place....

        February 1, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • WisdomVS

      So, we now apply affirmative action to criminals? If you're black you walk free... I will not be voting for the idiot known as Ron Paul. True equality can begin only after affirmative action ends.

      EXAMPLE: When a young black kid was being fired from his job...

      The young black man said to the shop foreman: "You're firing me because I'm black!" The foreman thought a moment and replied "No, we hired you because you were black."... "We're firing you because you are useless!"

      Blacks need to face reality. We all have to pull our weight.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
      • Johnny Trigger

        Paul does not want AA applied to criminals. He just wants to end govt policies that are bad to begin with... and which BTW have a disproportionate impact on specific races.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
      • cosmictwang

        Affirmative action has been gone for about ten years. Moron.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Patrick

        @.cosmictwang
        Would you please post a link to your source? I’ve checked a number of sites now and not one of them says Affirmative Action is gone or give a time line that includes and end date. From what I am seeing it seems to still be here. I am genuinely interested.

        February 1, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      Ron Paul is a racist pig. End of story.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Johnny Trigger

        I would encourage you to dig deeper on this topic. He has been in the public eye for 3 decades. Take a look at his speeches, his writings, the bills he votes on or sponsors in Congress... not one slivver of racism. The newsletter thing has been debunked.

        He's not a racist. and there is much more to the story.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      @ Johnny Trigger
      > he rightfully points out that these two issues result in disproportionate impact on blacks.

      Blacks disproportionately commit crimes that cause these issues. Get it right.

      February 1, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
  32. RaineOn

    @Shelle -www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchingstat.Yes I was born here- I am very American -AA , Anglo & Native American. Check the lunching stats. All in all its part of Americas' History .

    February 1, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  33. Leroy

    Black History Month Fact: 21.5% of blacks are born to teenagers in the United States. 69.1% are born to unwed mothers.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
    • aria

      well my mother was married and she was 30yrs old, college grad as well as my father when they had me. #justsaying

      February 1, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Don

    So long as the Walking Brain Dead Republiican Circus is not outlawed and forced to disband there will ALWAYS be Racist extremists in this country. This pathetic excuse for a political party is always and safe haven for the racist and bigots amongst us and as long as it exists this will be a problem this country must face. The Republican party holds the same danger to the uS as the Nazis did for Germany.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Agreed. Everything should be free for black people including food, housing, crack money, and now attempted health care so blacks can be nice and healthy to have their 20 babies per woman.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Monica

        Really Mike, ALL the so called programs or 'freebies' you have described, MOSTLY White people use and abuse them the most! Get your facts straight.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
      • aria

        Oh geez Mike, I guess I am behind on baby making and crack usage! Since I have no children and couldn't even tell the difference from crack and baking soda unless I ask my very well of Mexican mafia neighbor! I suppose I am too busy investing in stock and creating wealth for myself in my 24th year of life. Quick I need a crack pipe and sperm (black DNA is preferred)

        February 1, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Alex

    What we "Whites" need to realize is that oppression cannot be defined by the oppressors. As long as we are benefiting from the status quo, we need to listen, non-defensively. This is difficult and painful but most essential if we are ever to move on from this. The racist mythology that some comments have revisited here promote further ignorance and demonstrate an unwillingness to listen....

    February 1, 2012 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Q

      Nice comment.

      February 1, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  36. The Guru

    I am completely appalled by the comments by people who say if I'm white and a minority gets hired over me that’s reverse discrimination, THAT’S COMPLETE BS 90% OF FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES ARE 94.0% WHITE(B.OF.LABORSTATS)!!!!! so if both parties are exactly the same on the resume and in a company of LETS SAY 100 employees all of whom are white that they should hire the white person? WOW what’s wrong with having 1 minority? Damn! I work for a fortune 100 company now currently there are NO PEOPLE OF COLOR IN SENIOR MANAGEMENT...so if they hire one minority that’s a problem or pandering to minorities. Man you people are amazing...

    February 1, 2012 at 10:44 am | Report abuse |
  37. temple scroll

    race, poverty, hair color, clothes, skin color...people are innately discriminatory...and warring. We'll always find something to distinguish 'us' from 'them'. Look at history. Heal 'race' issues; I'm all for that; but something else just as ugly wil rise to the surface... sorry to be a pessimist 😦

    February 1, 2012 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  38. Leroy

    happy black history month yall iz bees needin to go get ma welfares check and get me some KFC wit a side of crack now time to get off ma govenrament issued internet now peace. OBAMAAAAA 2012!

    February 1, 2012 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • SFC Mike

      You're the kind of white idiot that creates the whole issue.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  39. Reginald C. Turner

    Well if you're black you don't have a chance, ALL races learn to dislike blacks, it'll never end, no matter what, BLACKS ARE NOT Wanted anywhere. Black people the world ans all white society hates, just read the racist comments of white on this page, they're very hateful and hide behind And stand by each other...Bit..es.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • REALITY

      And why do you think that is, Reginald? I mean if every race in the world dosent like blacks why do you think that is? i could see if it was a particular group of people didnt like them, or even a country but every other race hates blacks, you said it im just going along with it. could it be because they made a name for themselves? I mean i dont know man... it seems like it.. i see it every day, we all do.. we all see it except some choose to not see it and lie to themselves and say thats not what theyre seeing... there is a reason why all races dont like blacks...

      February 1, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Danny

    I am white and I am discriminated everyday. There are no scholarships for white people. You have to be a minority to get a scholarship. And then there is affirmative action. I am by no means complaining. It is what it is. How America treated black people 30+ years ago is so wrong on every level.

    And I really feel like the black community needs to step up and take responsibilties for their actions. For instance, don't complain about the percentage of black people in college or in jail. Go to college and don't commit crimes.

    Sorry if this sounds racist, but I really am not. There is white trash everwhere. The same goes for them.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
    • DamnDesert

      I think white people should quit complaining about minorities, for God's sake man we're white, what more could you ask for?

      February 1, 2012 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
    • dom

      You need to look harder my friend. There are plenty of scholarships for whites my wife is white and receives a huge amount of her tuition from scholarships.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
    • LegalEagle

      Dear Danny, I felt compelled to reply and let you know that there are MANY scholarships for "white" people and all people if your grades meet the requirement for that particular scholarship, so that was definitely an incorrect statement. If you are white, you are the majority, and that in itself gives you a boost, so you do not need laws and/or groups to help prevent someone from treating you unequal or not hiring you or not over-charging you or...well I could go on and on, but I've made my point. Just remember, you can wear a hoodie and not be assumed to be a thug, but if that young black man wears that same hoodie, suddenly a lot of opinions change and it's usually from white people.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
  41. Loren

    Tim, there are two Americas, one that might be considered post-racial and one that isn't. The one that is consists of the educated, professional class, and the creative class, where careers are based more on performance and ability and everyone at least hides the fact that they might be nervous around people who aren't the same as they are. The other is the working class and the barely working class, and that group is about as race conscious as the other isn't, but then they've got a good reason. When you are figting for the next paycheck and the racial preferences created by the ruling class make that struggle even more uneven, then who are you going to blame? Not the guy who in his infinite wisdom thinks that you should suffer to make up for what his class created, but the guy who is taking your paycheck. All racism today is economics based, the struggle to survive causes people to point to the other as the source of their misfortune, and the ruling class either knowingly or inadvertently causes its continuation through ill-thought policies designed to assuage their own guilt at their good fortune.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  42. Joink

    Jackson and Sharpton, racism on steroids. These two clowns have done more to keep black people in the ghetto than any white could do in the last 30 years....and still they listen to them.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
  43. evarocky

    "To me, “post-racial” is little more than a nonsense term devised by people (mostly white, frankly), who would simply rather not deal with the ever-present reality of racism and ongoing racial discrimination."

    Sounds like someone's not really dealing with his white guilt. Interestingly, he never mentions the fact that the US is 74% white, 16% hispanic, 14% black...like it or not, this is a predominantly white country. No that does not mean we revert back to times of unequal treatment based on skin color, but we don't push 14% of the population to the head of the class because we "feel bad" about it.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
  44. Ed Sr of Dallas Tx

    As far as I can see....there is only ONE race and that is the human race. All of this interaction about color and religion and politics is just nonsense. A person should be defined as either good or bad according to how they conduct their lives. If a person is honest and hard working and decent and fair I like that. If a person is evil and negative and lazy and dishonest I don't like that. I do not gauge a person by their color or religion or politics because that is negative and unproductive.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
  45. John

    There will never be equality in this country. When you have BLACK HISTORY MONTH, the BLACK MISS AMERICA BET, and things like this, its impossible. I think most white people are tired of having things like this shoved in our faces. Most of us came from other countries and werent here for the slavery thing. You wanna be equal and yet you want things just for you. CANT HAPPEN. Arent you embarressed that you are given jobs JUST beacause of your skin color and not because YOU EARNED IT? Maybe black people should focus more on getting an education and making something out of themselves instead of dreaming of becoming the next 50 Cent or Michael Jordan.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
    • youngplaya

      And why john do you think these things came about? You don't remember Jim Crow, segregation in schools,colored water fountains or certain entrances for black people. All my ancestors wanted to do in this country was participate in the American dream and your forefathers tried to destroy that at every chance they got. So as my people became educated and wealthy they did what your forfathers wanted and created their own stuff..what's the problem. some white americans act like if a black person or latin person is proud of their heritage, some how they are anti white, that is not true at all.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:48 am | Report abuse |
      • Patrick

        @youngplaya
        >There wouldn't be a need for affirmative action if your forefathers didn't hinder mine from living the American dream.

        He’s forefathers are the only reason YOU have the chance at the AMERICAN dream. And it is the AMERICAN, not AFRICAN dream. Also your notion that people alive today should pay for the ‘crimes’ of the past is ridiculous. Where is the affirmative action for the slaves AFRICANS took from other tribes? Yea…equality…it’s a two way street. You sense of self enti.tlement shows you for the stereotype you are.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • youngplaya

      @john At first I only glanced at your post. after reading completely, I am sorry I responded to such a retarded statement. If you think you are not racist for posting such a negative narrow minded sweeping statement about black people you should remove yourself from all social encounters. Your are completely lost buddy. Sad...

      February 1, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Khadija

      For your information ther are so many BLACK people in the wolrd that are sucessful not all black people wanna be rappers or the next Amarican top model. Black History month is very impotant to me. Not becasuse the white man beat them to death, if they did not pick cotten from the field or not. Its more than that !! Its is about trying to prove our selfs in a society were black people were picked on everyday.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • LegalEagle

      Dear John, While there are those who choose to be nothing and do nothing with their lives besides aspire to be a rapper or ball player-Please believe that there are many more that are college educated and/or or working and trying very hard to make a decent living, while being faced with rejection from CEOs and landlords and so many others that unfortunately are racist, so it's not as easy as you think. It's getting better, but the discrimination still exists. There is nothing more depressing than having the qualifications, the intelligence, being well-groomed and well-spoken and yet you can't get past that higher-up who simply will not hire you because of the color of your skin. If you had a close friend or an extended family member who were black, you may be able to better understand. So, for just one moment, please have a bit of empathy, not all black people want food stamps and gold teeth.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Max Johnson

      I think you are missing the point here, John.
      We all agree that there have been significant improvement in race relations compared to a few decades ago. Yet a lot of inequalities still persist. At my job, Blacks with higher degrees were denied jobs that were given to whites with no degrees whatsoever. At layoff times, Blacks were disproportionately let go and usually with no compensation while whites were given decent severance packages.
      Right now, all we are asking for is for minorities to be given a fair chance to climb the corporate ladders which happen to be for the most part lilly white.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Qwaun Peartree

      America is just in denial, white people no minorities are decriminated against. Look at main stream TV, were are we represented on ABC, NBC, or CBS, is there a show geared toward minority viewers. No there is none and when there is a show its always a token black person on the show. I ask myself why are we singled out and we have a black history month, why cant african american acheivements just be written in the history books, or any minority. In history class we always learn about the acheivements of whites 97% of the class. You even see it in politics, how often do you see minorities in any of the crowds of the white politicians that are running for the republican nomini. None, because they could care less about our vote. Our country just doesnt want to deal with the BLK and WHT issue.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  46. teepee

    I'm somewhat racist myself...

    February 1, 2012 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      like most Blankets.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
  47. Shelle

    Oh boy. "Post-racial" is a term used by white liberals, a significant portion of black Americans, and a growing number of Hispanic immigrants. It is a term used to continue the racial issues, perpetuate them, and keeping the fire fueled. Mr. Wise quotes many little-known statistics here, yet doesn't provide the source. Let's start with the most obvious. Asian-Americans are having a hard time here? Asian-Indians are the wealthiest ethnic group (that's including whites) and various other Asian-American groups following close behind. They immigrated here, worked hard, helped each other, and here they are today. Hispanics? Please. As a second-generation South American myself, I am distressed to see the Hispanic people jumping on the "we're so discriminated against" bandwagon. My father came here as an immigrant, worked hard, and provided opportunities for my generation to do better. In what world do you get to move to a country and assume all of the benefits without working for them? Nearly every ethnic group that thrives here today had several generations that were willing to sacrifice, working "menial" jobs, forgo college, etc., for the benefit of their children and subsequent generations. Wise is right about one thing, though. There is plenty of discrimination going on. It's called affirmative action. I get to walk around for the rest of my career having people wonder if I got my doctorate because of my last name or based on years of excruciatingly hard work. That doesn't mean that there is no racism today, but those who are racist are regarded by most as ignorant and undesirable companions. Most of these ignorant people are ignorant in most aspects of life and rarely find themselves at the top of any food chain, making such decisions as hiring needs and college/grad school admission. And there is plenty of accepted racism, against whites, in the minority communities. I was speaking to a friend "of color" the other day who found herself offended when someone she met inquired what her ethnic background was, as if it were so racist to have noticed the obvious physical difference between her and a white person. People stay away from celebrating our uniqueness these days because they are so (understandably) afraid that others, like Mr. Wise, will brand them a racist. Get another cause, PLEASE, because this one has worn out its welcome.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      Too many words.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
    • PIJoe

      James–Well said! That is an absolutely BRILLIANT response.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
    • JP

      Brilliant! Thank you.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
    • PIJoe

      Sorry I mean "Shelle"

      February 1, 2012 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • andy

      God bless you and your family Shelle. I too am a child of immigrants from Paraguay and managed to turn it around in one generation and am no a doctor. My dad and mom believed that education and hard work are the keys to success. I didn't get any help along the way other than the love and support of my family. No financial aid or anything. I took out loans on myself and am paying them back without complaint. Nobody is holding anyone back except their own beliefs and this whole constant emphasis on racism and class warfare is only an excuse to not work hard at what you want to get.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
  48. Al

    Claiming that white people are turning a blind eye to racism because they feel we are in a "post-racial" society is a little silly. It's almost as silly as saying that minorities are entrenched in racial society and seek out cases to support that belief. This is not a White issue, this is a society issue. I believe that racism would be much less of an issue if several things were fixed:

    1. Laws promoting racism (Affirmative Action) should be remove or rewritten to promote/require equality regardless of race. Companies should not be required to employ someone simply to meet federal racial guidelines.They should hire the most skilled individual for that position.

    2. Claims of "racism" should be limited to actual cases of racism. It seems like any interracial crime/arrangement's are always deemed racist regardless of the events surrounding the incident. This promotes and encourages racism in society.

    3. Parents must teach their children that race does not matter. I have personally heard parents/grandparents of White, African American, and Latino's make racist remarks around children. This is not acceptable.

    4. Parents must be involved in their child's life and education. They must encourage their children to learn and improve themselves. This is a huge problem today as parents are not involved. Children grow up on their own, and especially in the inner cities, this tends to lead towards drugs, gangs, and violence.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      I completely agree.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      This is exactly the kind of condesending thought pattern that makes us believe that racism is not dead it just changed into a nicer looking suit. Talk to some "minorities" and let's see how long you remain standing.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Al

      @skpfrmdc Thank you for being my prime example.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Shelle

      Skpfrmdc – Hi Skp, "minority" here. And I completely agree with Al.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
      • skpfrmdc

        ...That and a$1 will get you a cup of coffee. Of course you agree with each other you don't know me or what I've done, where I've been and what I've seen. You are probably too young to remember outright segregation and have few minority friend whom you don't revaeal the true nature of your opinion of them.Having never faced discrimination yourself you naturally don't want to be painted with the sins of your ancestors (I never owned a slave and such nonsense). We'll be post racial when I don't have to write opinions like this anymore. Your response is all I need as confirmation. Affirmative action began with emancipation and if you hadn't ignored it then you wouldn't need it now.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Al

        @skpfrmdc Now I can clearly say that you are living in the past and making blind assumptions about people. People your age probably still have racist tendencies (like yourself). The newer generations, it is much less of a problem... except for children of parents like yourself.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
      • Shelle

        Skp,
        Why would I need to know you personally to opine on the concept of a post-racial America? You sound as though you are much older to have lived through outright segregation and, if that is the case, I am sympathetic to what you have been through. But you are proving my point exactly. I am not talking about what happened all those years ago. No reasonable person disputes that what happened to black people during slavery and post-slavery racist America is appalling. The conversation is talking about contemporary issues and talking about what you've been through or what went on many years ago, is no longer relevant to this conversation. I volunteer with young girls in my community (most of whom are Hispanic) and recently attended an event where one of the other members of my group gave a presentation on the racial disparities in nutrition. Through many out-of-context statistics, she sought to convey the message that they were all victims of the system and that if they had poor nutritional habits, it was as a result of discrimination. I was appalled that she found it beneficial to tell young, impressionable girls that they were victims, rather than use the opportunity to convey a message of empowerment. Rather than to tell them that they all mattered and could make their own choices in life and pave a path of success through hard work. What happened in the past should never be forgotten, but it is long-since time to move forward.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:41 am | Report abuse |
  49. John

    @TomFoolery: When was the last time white commited the violent crimes that blacks do? Talk about Newark NJ, Camden NJ, Trenton NJ, Irvington NJ, all these areas have an Incredible amount of shootings, carjackings, robberies, and assaults. White people dont do these things, they might steal money AKA Bernie Madoff, but blacks of each other in record numbers.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
    • youngplaya

      Please don't start such a senseless argument. All people from all backgrounds in the country have committed vicious crimes. What about the two guys in Connecticut that murdered that family. They were white..adn I am only saying that to refute your claim. Crimes are committed by everyone. You basically just said blacks rape rob and murder, but white guys ooh they only steal 401k money from investors and employers. THis is why America still has issues your dad taught you well..

      February 1, 2012 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      Fool. Your child killing/ molesting crimes against nature / treason and on and on leaves you no room to talk about anyone of any race. Read your own Genocidal history before cating stones. We could commit crimes from here to eternity and barely get to within seeing distance of the "white" man. Your crimes are enormas and couched in Your ideal of Manifest Destiny from Alexander the great to George Bush.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
      • WisdomVS

        If that comment isn't reverse racism, what is?

        February 1, 2012 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
  50. Neil

    Money or the lack their of is the main reason we get into these shouting matches over race. Black and white people who have done well for themselves normally do not feel the need to blame anyone for what they have or have not achieved. No matter what race you happen to be if you have kids as a teenager or you don't get an education you are headed down the road of blaming someone for your lot in life instead of looking in the mirror at the real problem.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
  51. RaineOn

    When was the last time a non-black was hung in the U.S or dragged down the streets-Just because of the color of his skin?

    February 1, 2012 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      A few months ago some white mississippi kids beat and ran over a black man simply because he was black. Let's go f__k with some n__ers I believe the inspiration was. The problem of race in this country is only a concern for the affected in some cases. Seriously you need to check yourself.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Shelle

      Raine, lynchings of black people was vary rare after the 1930s. Were you even born then? Today, racial attacks are severely dealt with and are carried out by criminals against all races. So let's start focusing on contemporary issues.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  52. youngplaya

    Denial is so true...The first post I read was by BOB who said guys like Tim make things worst.....really...Didn't Tim just give you cold hard facts? and instead of saying wow Tim I didn't know these things were true..you decide to say Tim is the problem instead of the injustice he just pointed out in the article...America:(

    February 1, 2012 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
  53. James

    There will never be a "post racial" United States. There are too many people like me on both sides of the fence. My thoughts are that there are too many Govt programs and too much Govt assistance for all minorities. The minorities have every opportunity stacked in their favor in the name of being politically correct. Here's the age-old example... If a white male and a minority of either gender apply for the same job in nuclear fusion, both Harvard Grads with a 4.0 GPA, the minority is going to get hired no matter what other qualifications are needed. It would not matter if the minority came from a previous job of 10 years in the fast food business and the white male came from a job of 10 years working in nuclear fusion.

    There are also minorities that feel everything is stacked in favor of white people. They fail to understand that approximately 78% of the US population according to the last census was white. It's no racism that caused the overwhelming majority of workers in highly paid jobs to be white. It's the sheer numbers but the minorities don't see it that way. They only want to lay blame on someone else for their shortcomings or lack of prosperity (most of the time) but not always).

    A “post racial” United States will never exist because of crime statistics either. The ACLU and other liberal, left wing organizations that should not get a single dime of federal money say there are a disproportionate number of minorities arrested over the number of white people for committing crimes. They also say there is a disproportionate number of minorities on death row. Has anyone ever thought that maybe the minorities are committing the majority of the crimes? Of course they have but they won’t say it because it is not politically correct.

    Let me leave this parting thought. “Diversity alone brings NOTHING to the table.” If a minority is hired simply because he/she is black or Hispanic or whatever and they bring no experience or education to the table then they are the wrong person to hire. But, employers will hire them any way because the Govt caters to minorities no matter what. There will never be racial equality in the United States. NEVER.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
    • youngplaya

      Do you have any facts to back up those ridiculous claims? I doubt you have any..This is the bubble that people live in. You don't know first hand of one incident like this your are posting about but you speak as if you now it to be true. There wouldn't be a need for affirmative action if your forefathers didn't hinder mine from living the American dream. You can't have it both ways. 400 years of servitude should allow me 400 years of affirmative action

      February 1, 2012 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
      • James

        So, according to you two wrongs make a right?

        My forefathers did NOT hinder any of YOUR forefathers from doing anything. Your reply is typical of someone who thinks they are "owed" something. Your screen name suggests you are a minority because it is typical of common street slang used by a large number of minorities.

        I can site examples of minorities being hired simply because they are minorities. I give you the wonderful and most loved organization in the United States, the TSA. I'm sorry but I profile people because I can. The TSA is a perfect example of uneducated people being hired simply because they are minorities. Here is an example of that. I was at the Nashville airport on my way to Chicago on January 4th. The TSA agent at the security check point said, “Sir, I need to ‘AXE’ you to raise your arms.” So, was she uneducated or did she deliberately choose to be stupid? That is one example.

        Tell me what affirmative action is going to accomplish. How does it benefit society? How does diversity alone benefit anyone?

        You are NOT owed a single thing. You get what you EARN.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
      • K

        I can give you two very recent very real examples of how affirmative action is detrimental to a company. Last year I worked for a VERY large Healthcare corporation in North Texas. When one of our VP of operations resigned we were told by the board of directors that we WOULD hire a minority to replace him, and not just any minority, it would be a black person and preferably a black female. Although we were required to interview other races so it wouldn't look so obvious. The most hands down qualified person we interviewed was a white male, my President wanted him to have the job very badly. He could have hit the ground running with almost no learning curve given his previous experience, we were told we absolutely could not hire him and to continue looking until we found a qualified black woman. It took us more than a year to find a black female who met JUST the education requirement. She had NO previous experience, was a brand new grad. We hired her. It was a disaster for the first 18+ months. She was so unprepared and unqualified that she struggled every day. I adored her, she was a wonderful person, very smart, very sweet, worked very hard, long hours, but had NO IDEA what she was doing. There were many times she was in my office crying because she knew she was failing. She told me many times she wasn't cut out for the job, just couldn't do it, etc etc. She finally said to me "I don't know why they hired me, I wasn't ready". So I told her. I told her the truth. She cried so hard and was SO embarrassed. She said "everyone MUST hate me! Does EVERYONE know that you were MADE to hire me!?" I told her not everyone but most people did know. She was horrified. She has been in the position now for 3 years and is doing much better but so much more could have been accomplished in those 3 years had we been allowed to hire the experienced person, and SHE would have been much better off if she has started at an entry management position and worked her way up. Not long after this happened with her, our SR. VP of HR resigned, another white male, and again we were told we would hire a black person, again preferable a black female... I quit, I had had enough.... and by the way, after months and months of searching they did hire a black female.. and again, it's been a disaster... not because she's not a good person, hard worker, etc... but because again she was unprepared for the role... you wanted specifics? There's two.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Qwaun Peartree

      People keep talking about programs to help minorities, but there are more whites on welfare than blacks so get your facts right people, and if afirmitive actions gives minorites all of these jobs, why are there alot more minority CEOs of major companys out there, why is unemployment high amongst minorities, afirmitive action is the white mans excuse for ineguality.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
      • James

        Once again, this is not a racial issue. It is because of the sheer numbers. White people greatly outnumber minorities. That's why they are called minorities. No one said anything about welfare except you.

        February 1, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Patrick

        @Qwaun Peartree
        Of course there are more whites on welfare. There are more whites than blacks. HOWEVER take a look at the percentage per capita. YOU get your facts straight moron.

        February 1, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • REALITY

        LOL! Really, well its a simple matter of arithmetic really, blacks are 12-13% of the population while whites are upwards of 60% or higher.. so of course theyre is going to be more whites on welfare simply because theyres more whites... duh.. however lets look at how long the white people are on welfare for... is it until they finally get on theyre feet or do they stay on welfare? yeah thats right you guessed it 90% of white welfare recipients only use it to get back on theyre feet... dont take my word for it look it up for yourself like i did...

        February 1, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • LegalEagle

      Dear James, For every minority hired due to affirmative action, there are many more white CEOs unwilling to hire minorities. There are even more landlords not renting to minorities, whether rich or poor and having the best references and credit. Even with all these so-called benefits that minorities are getting (which is not a true by the way) there are still many more blacks/latinos that are certainly getting the short end of the stick. So with that being said, we can banish all the benefits and/or laws promoting minorities-but until the older white men cleanse their hearts and heads of racist thoughts, then it doesn't really matter because they aren't getting hired anyway!

      February 1, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
      • James

        LeagalEagle,
        Very well stated and I do agree with most of what you said. But there is a vast majority of the minority that presents themselves as "undesirable" by their actions, apparent lack of education and demeanor that proceeds the number of the minority that is educated and desirable. We don't need to give priority treatment to anyone. We need to stop all the pandering to minorities simply because they are a minority.

        The programs I referenced are out there. There are college funds set aside for minorities only. Affirmative action in itself is a Govt program aimed at minorities only. My example of the TSA worker is just one single example of why some people, minority in this case, are not desirable people to be hired.

        February 1, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
  54. jona

    CNN does this instead of investigating the truths about 'racism'. They hide black racism and DAILY attempt to reveal white racism as if that's all there is folks. Exacerbating the problem, actually. Thanks CNN! But you're failing. It isn't hard to find the facts anymore since the internet is FULL of articles revealing the true situation. CNN has yet to learn that.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  55. memphisdave

    America only appears "post-racial" from the suburbs. Growing up there, I didn't realize the vast inequalities between the races–even though I only knew a handful of non-whites living in my neighborhood. Out of sight, out of mind I guess. Now living in the heart of Memphis, I know that "post-racial" America is a self-serving fantasy we white people perpetuate to deny the fact that we have royally screwed things up. Past and present racism has created a social system that has completely unhinged urban black culture. Something has to turn this around, and it's not going to happen through boot-strap pulling alone. If you grow up with a teenage mother, no father, and a world that couldn't care less, how likely is it that you'll even know what a boot-strap is?

    February 1, 2012 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  56. Helen

    Someday everything will be based on your credit rating and that box will replace the race box on applications forms.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
  57. Illeagle-j1

    Post Racial, infers that we have learned to accept others regardless of their differences. I can only hope that day comes some day.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
  58. jorge

    you know all this talk will not help the situation, we need to look at the facts, they do not lie, so lets me not be black or white let us be objective, that is all

    February 1, 2012 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  59. Darryl

    While racism is still alive, it is how you let it affect you personally. Being a black man, I have seen several instances of racism in my community as well as my children's school. It doesn't stop me from trying to obtain all my goals that I want to accomplish. I don't let anyone else's stupidity and ignorance to impede my life nor will I ever use it as an excuse. From the hood to $75000/yr.... I can live with that... Thanks White America for the chance..(laughing all the way to the bank) 🙂

    February 1, 2012 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      You’re welcome. It is very unfortunate the way most blacks came to be in America. But from that time came the opportunity for you and yours to be better than you would have been.

      February 1, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Leeann

    Labeling each other with statistics continues to divide us all. African-Americans this, Latino-Americans that, Asian-Americans something else. Why not just Americans? We're all in this together, whether some people like it or not. Why do we continually divide ourselves?

    February 1, 2012 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Vick

      As someone of mixed race, I ask myself this question everyday...

      February 1, 2012 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
    • LegalEagle

      I couldn't agree more!! Labels just helps the division.

      February 1, 2012 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
  61. Mexi

    Another white guilt article, the staple of CNN.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      Yet you still came to CNN, clicked the article, read it, and posted a comment.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Ethernet

      Racism is alive and well, but it has been my experience that blacks and latinos are more racist than anyone else.
      Its obvious that they are trying to come swing the tide for their own benifits and not for any type of equality.
      Affirmative action is a prime example...

      February 1, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
    • skpfrmdc

      ....can't have white guilt without something to feel guilty about. Ask the Germans. They don't like being reminded about theirs but you can fly your swatstika and sing Hoerst Wiesel all day long here in the good ol' USA. Own it! Ever ask yourself why some feel that way. I certainly don't feel guilty about, say, Idi Amin or the beltway snipers. Typical weak white whining. As usual they can dish it out but can't take it 'cause the have no serious argument with the facts.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
  62. Citizen

    There will never be post-racial as the black community needs the racisam crutch. It is they who are keeping racism alive and well.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      You are a putz.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  63. John

    The visible skin area of a typical man during winter is about 5% of his entire body, the rest is covered by much the same clothing I'm wearing. I don't care how much emphasis you put on your skin color, it is not any concern of mine, so please, accept that I'm European American, beige colored, and care no more that you're brown, tan, or any other color, than you care that I'm another shade of the same. I'm certainly not white, any more than you're black, so please, let the white/black thing die off for once, it never existed in the first place. If you feel you can't get ahead in life, talk to Oprah, she's a billionair, you're held back about as much as she is, less in fact if you're younger than she is.

    Good luck figuring it out.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  64. bob

    it's guys like Tim that make things worse. Tim why dont you and a couple of your white friends take a walk down the main street in Compton or some of the streets in DC and see what happens to you because your white. I will gaurentee if you had 2 or 3 black men walking through a mall in suburbia ( happens every day) nothing would happen to them. The tide is turning as a white person i'm tired of getting beaten up as a racist. it's time to help yourselves quite having 5 babies with 5 different men who you cant find quite dropping out of school at a 50% drop out rate we are getting tired of it!!!! .

    February 1, 2012 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
    • evans

      troll much?

      February 1, 2012 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
    • DUMB BOB

      And for god sakes stop spelling the word QUIT with an e.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
  65. Rhymeskeema

    Post racism is the ultimate excuse for lazy comedians.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
  66. Travis

    Article is ridiculous. You don't need to ask the questions since imperical evidence (e.g. raw data) can absolutely demonstrate racism is alive and well. Whether people feel it exist or not is utterly immaterial. The only thing that matters are the numbers (e.g. income, net worth, incarceration rates, etc...) Now causality is the key. Are African-American males incarcerated for the same offenses and given longer sentences for those offense because they're black or because they typically have less resources available to retain better legal defense. Either by design or default, imperical evidence can demonstrate that racism is more alive now than ever.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Travis

      ... same offenses as white males that is...

      February 1, 2012 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Travis

        The whole purpose of this article is not to really explore whether racism still exist but more so to advance the idea that perhaps it really doesn't... to encourage people to maybe consider that perhaps we do live in a post-racist society. If this was really a news site, they would research the imperical evidence (e.g. raw data, causality) and write an article based on the raw data. CNN is such a joke.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  67. HeyHey

    I'm free to dislike whatever or whomever I wish.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
  68. Ixtapa

    What a wuss.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Blaise

      Yes, a sissified article at best. How about this one: how can we have a "post-racial" society when blacks murder at 7x the rate of whites? Am I really supposed to blithely ignore the obvious and let my wife and daughter stroll around in a black population center? Give me a break.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
  69. Night Fury

    Boston is well-known for having some of the top hospitals in the world. Critically sick people from all over the world come to Mass General, Boston Children's Hospital, etc. Well, if you're racist, and you get cancer here, you better check your racism at the hospital door – for it is most likely that a surgeon of Asian or Jewish descent will save your life. And guess what, all those Asian-American and Jewish doctors at these world-class hospitals did NOT get their jobs through some quota system - they got there because of MERIT.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
    • morning glory

      My two best friends are Asian and Jewish, neither has experienced the discrimination that I have. I am black.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  70. Jon

    There are either more people accepting food stamps under the Obama regime or there are not. The only people who keep attaching race to this issue are from the left. They would love to make the issue a racial one because they have no justifiable defense for allowing 50% of Americans to support the other 50% of Americans.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:51 am | Report abuse |
  71. Julnor

    We can't get post racial until we stop worrying about people's races. For instance, how about we stop asking for your race when the census comes around again in 2020 and how about we eliminate any laws that factor in race. If you want to get to the point where a person is judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin, you must first stop worrying about the color of the skin.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
    • vc

      Underneath we are the same. Division of the skin color is what keeps the rich-rich and the middle to poor-poor. We are the human race. People who have focused so much on the color of skin have kept all of us from evolving to the next highest spiritual plain. Unity of us all as a race. That is our true history as a creation.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Rin

      The reason it's asked is to find out if there is still discrimination and how much.
      Not asking would not make racism go away, it would just be harder to find out how much of an effect it has.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
  72. Mike Moody

    Racism and prejudice have always existed. The Irish, Jews and Italians were victims at the turn of the century, the Chinese before that. All four of the groups have managed to overcome this and prosper. The Hispanics are the next group currently suffering from racism but will overcome it as well due to their work ethic. Blacks? Some are very successful. Why are people leary of hiring them? Because it is nearly impossible to fire them if they are not doing a good job since they have a lot of laws protecting them. You can legislate equal opportunity but you can't legislate respect.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Fatima

      While talking of racism, Wise has left out the new ostracised – Muslims. May be because it is not politically correct or fashionable to include thier statistics in rights discussion. Tha fact itself speaks for abscence of post-racial America. Just like each era has had their marginalised society members (Jews in WWII and Blacks even to present), Musliims are the new outcast.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Huh

        Perhaps Muslims were not mentioned in this article because the article discusses race not religion. Islam is a religion, of which its practicers, Muslims, are comprised of a variety of races. Stop crying.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
    • Nelson

      Wow, a racist has finally spoken about Blacks in generalities. You seem to understand nothing about the black experience in this country, but want to state expert opinion about black work habits. Check history and you will find Blacks built this country for free while under duress. No other ethnic group was made to do so as they were at least paid and allowed to keep their dignity. It is easy to demonize and blame when you look at someone as less than human.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
  73. kodi98

    That's great throwing all those drug statistic's around but no one is looking at the way these people portray themselves on the street. If you stand around on a corner looking over your shoulder and walking up to every car that stops at the curb you are more likely to be stopped and questioned then if you are walking down the street with drugs in your pocket. As far as whites having 20 times the net worth a lot of that is personal decision making. I've known more than one person of color to drive a $75K car and wear $200 shoes and $2000 suits but have little to no furniture in their closet sized apartment, same is true of every race but it is more prevalent amongst people of color, in my experience.

    I've worked in large office buildings my entire adult career and I've noticed that no matter where I've worked all of the black people greet each other in the halls and stairways. The guard says "good morning" to every black person that comes in the door but when I walk in he never says anything and only glances up to see if I have a badge. Why is that, why do they only greet the other blacks? Isn't that racist?

    February 1, 2012 at 8:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Bo

      kodi98,

      no that's not racism, racism is about using and abusing power. The guard in your workplace is exhibiting discrimination and prejudice. Although I know and have experienced what you are talking about it's not that big of a deal, annoying yes. However, some of the worst racism I've seen have been between blacks. Yes blacks like any ethnic minority want to stick together and help each other out. Basically when it comes down to their own money/business blacks will be no better and often far worse than their white counter parts in discriminating against blacks. It is sad and not right but unfortunately is reality.

      So according to what's happening in the real world there is an underlining problem that's not racism. And that needs to be addressed, but articles like this one keep the focus on the wrong things and do nothing but keep the problems at bay.

      February 1, 2012 at 8:56 am | Report abuse |
      • M

        My question is do either of you speak to black people first? Or, do you act like blacks are invisible? For a very long time in this country's history, many white folks have looked through minorities (blacks, Asians, hispanics, Native Americans) as they performed services for them, as if they weren't there. Why did that happen? We only need to reflect on sayings like "know your place" and "uppity" to start to understand why.

        So rather than cry "racism" or "reverse discrimination", why not say "hi" or "good morning" first. Who knows, you may wind up doing a small part to making this article less relevant!

        February 1, 2012 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
      • Bo

        The issue isn't about who is greeting who first.

        It's about equal treatment and discrimination and how we notice it. Like I said it's not really a big deal but it does go on and it's not unnoticed, apparently by others as well.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
    • TomFoolery

      You really expect us to believe that you PERSONALLY know a person of color who drives a $75,000 car, who wears $200 shoes AND lives in an apartment without furniture? What a weak minded fool you are to attempt to refute cold, hard facts with figments of your imagination! The difference between "all those statistics" and your anecdote is that the author of this article addresses the BIG picture while you, on the other hand, are trying to universalize what you see in YOUR SMALL world and from your small worldview.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Vick

      I am half black myself and I have to agree with a large portion of what was said, racism is till alive and kicking in this country, but it's not to say that many blacls don't do it to themselves, many, not all of them, make poor financial decisions which results in them never having enough money. I am extremely fair skinned, so I have experienced the slighted treatment from many blacks on a regular basis, until they find out that I'm mixed, then all of a sudden they want to be my best friend. I have never understoof why many minorities do this to themselves in this country, when offered opportunities, rather than take them and work towards something, they would rather "keep it real", then have litters of children with no male support, and keep the cycle going....it really is sad, I love Obama for setting a great example for many of the minorities in this country.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Rin

      So, you honestly believe that, on average, a POC is going to make bad decisions with money and this is why they make so much less?
      You do realize that they way a person spends their money does not effect how much money they make, right?

      Also, have you stopped to say hello to the guard? Maybe the others do and that has prompted him to respond in kind.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
  74. TampaMel

    How is it possible to get past our differences when school and the media are always pushing what makes up different in our faces. I understand the need for ethnic studies in school but those studies need to be intergraded into the study of Americans as a whole. The reason for ethnic studies is the non-inclusive nature of the historical and cultural aspects of all of us. Contrary to popular opinion all people have a cultural heritage not just those we define as as have one. As long as people are separated by society into groups and as long as those groups maintain that separation in the exclusively of their view of themselves and other, we will never get past the 'them and us' view of our society.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:41 am | Report abuse |
    • august washington

      Great post

      February 1, 2012 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
  75. John Lupus

    I am proud to be WHITE. 14/88

    February 1, 2012 at 7:25 am | Report abuse |
    • GailS

      What are you proud of doing as white person? Just curious ...

      February 1, 2012 at 7:50 am | Report abuse |
    • REALITY

      WPWW / KLASP!

      February 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  76. VRage13

    As I have said before, racism goes both ways. There are many instances these days where non-whites show blatant racism towards whites. This article and all these PC terms help perpetuation the problem. If everyone thought as I do, everything would be much better. Either you are an American (no need for any other qualifer) or you ain't and if you ain't you better be here legally otherwise get the hell out and stay out until you can learn to follow our laws....ALL our laws.

    February 1, 2012 at 5:24 am | Report abuse |
    • TomFoolery

      If racism goes both ways as you assert, then tell us the last time you saw a group of black police officers beating a white man in a suburban development! I would have agreed with you if you had said "bigotry". There are significant differences between "racism" and "bigotry." The most important difference is that bigoted acts of people of color do not create larger numbers of whites to be incarcerated for the same crimes committed by people of color.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:49 am | Report abuse |
      • august washington

        good point

        February 1, 2012 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
      • jona

        How many white suburban men shoot each other every day? Or shoot at cops. Or run from the cops.? Or fight with cops?

        February 1, 2012 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
  77. Bruce

    Watch Bait Car. It's hilarious.

    February 1, 2012 at 4:36 am | Report abuse |
  78. IMHO

    No, we are definitely not post racial. But we will be. Through intermarriage everyone will eventually have people of every possible skin tone as close relatives. Lets face it, everyone wants to be kind of a tan color anyway... who wants to be pasty white?

    February 1, 2012 at 4:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Laney1025

      I find the concept of purposely eliminating the races through intermarriage just as disgusting as racism. The answer is not elimination...it's putting on our big boy and girl pants and seeing HUMANITY beyond the color of ones' skin! Racism is alive and well in this country and, just like little kids, if a particular group is doing something that another group finds distasteful the first ball of snot to be thrown is the one of race. It's childish, counter productive, and downright stupid for anyone on this planet in human form to look down on anyone else in human form and see themselves as somehow superior...period...end of story...end of discussion!

      February 1, 2012 at 6:20 am | Report abuse |
      • Mark

        Don't worry...like it or not, we will all be Filipino in the end. It's all part of the plan. Just ask yourself why every hospital in the world is filled with Filipina nurses.

        February 1, 2012 at 7:14 am | Report abuse |
      • vc

        Underneath we are the same. Division of the skin color is what keeps the rich-rich and the middle to poor-poor. We are the human race. People who have focused so much on the color of skin have kept all of us from evolving to the next highest spiritual plain. Unity of us all as a race. That is our true history as a creation.

        February 1, 2012 at 9:49 am | Report abuse |
    • glyder

      your silly.the politicians and media will never let post racism happen.too much money and power.the author is nothing more than a white uncle tom.he needs to move into an all black area.more butts to kiss and he can feel better about himself.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:44 am | Report abuse |
  79. spent

    Get a clue. Racism is world wide and will not end.

    February 1, 2012 at 4:02 am | Report abuse |
  80. Benjamin Njoroge

    Tell them Tim, besides, are the advocates of color blindness aka post racial, are they also post gender? Is America gender blind?, Whether we want to or not, America will have to deal with the issue of race and racism at some point, even babies will discover that the pacifier is just that, a pacifier thanks to Tim and other anti-racist educators for such a special undertaking.

    February 1, 2012 at 3:12 am | Report abuse |
  81. Emily Olbera

    I happen to think what you said was interesting.. I don`t take it personally.. I am a person of mixed race I`m of Hispanic and Caucasian ancestry so I have a different perspective ... You gotta understand we all come from different backgrounds and we`re not going to have the same experiences.. I went to school with pretty much every race you can name.. Also my family happens to have a mixture of races including Hispanic, African American, White and Asian... So you can imagine my perspective..

    February 1, 2012 at 2:20 am | Report abuse |
    • IMHO

      You are the future...

      February 1, 2012 at 4:22 am | Report abuse |
  82. Chris Martin

    Hey CNN: Fire Tim for helping to distract us and keep a nation divided. One day I will have the ability to stop the world from turning for a few people, and we can deal with this issue....oh wait...this issue is on the table every day in America....thank you for electing a "person of color" so that we can continue to keep these issues burning in our hearts and minds ! Thank Tim, you are so wise.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Sunny

      Oh wow that's a really ignorant comment.. how is acknowledgement of an important issue in america dividing anyone? really? may be if america wasn't so divided then it would be more united, and may be he's helping americans by pointing an issue that needs to be dealt with

      February 1, 2012 at 2:26 am | Report abuse |
  83. !!

    The poor critical thinking skills implied by some of these comments is outstanding. Both from the people that agree with Tim Wise and the people that disagree with him, but mainly from the people that disagree with him. Please people, you can do better. Before you hit "post", play a little devil's advocate with yourself. Go away from this website and do a little reading on the topic. Please, don't read with your heart, read with your mind. Think patiently and carefully or we will constantly walk in circles.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris Martin

      Okay I left this article, and went to the bathroom. While I was in the bathroom, I made an intelligent decision. That decision is that we have been walking in circles, and people like Tim, will keep us in circles.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:58 am | Report abuse |
      • eville11

        dogs do that too before they lay down and sleep... which is already what we're doing.. sleeping, actually sleep walking in circles... same old problems, same old answers, nobody wants to wake up a sleepwalker... may be scary.

        February 1, 2012 at 7:25 am | Report abuse |
  84. Harlin

    If you aren't black in america, you have nothing to cpmplain about and if you are an immigrant keep your damn mouth shut, you are lucky enough to be outta that dump of a country living in the best nation in history as leaches.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris Martin

      Yes us "white folk" or if you prefer " people of non color" have nothing to complain about, except....about all the other people that will never stop complaining !

      February 1, 2012 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
  85. Harlin

    It's amazing how the benefits of all these immigrants and American citizens are not taught to them from which the source of their civil rights stem from. Black Americans died, were killed and brutally beat and endlessly terrorized so that mainly white women and immigrants illegal and legal alike could have inalienable rights that they would not have, had it been for black americans getting beat for the whole lot of you cowardly blabber-mouth hypocrites. Critics and freeloaders who say racism doesn't exist close your damns mouths about what you don't know and have not researched and get your backsides back in your lanes worthless suckas.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Bo

      Harlin,
      So what are you saying, blacks are the only ones that have the right to complain? Please.

      You are ignorant and are a shining example of why Blacks in America have a long road ahead. Equal rights started long before the Civil Rights movement. It started with the Civil War, freedom from slavery. Which naturally led to the women's rights movement and then equal rights for all races. The civil rights movement was just another progression of something that was already happening. It was the era of industrialization and capitalism that made slavery an irrelevant system. To say "it was all the blacks" gives too much credit. If you want to take that approach then you can't hate white people for slavery itself. Ask yourself why was there slavery in the first place? Whites did not go to Africa with an army, they went with goods and traded for human resources which the Africans gladly sold off to the tune of hundreds of thousands.

      As far as Immigrants (the legal ones) contribute to the US, they are welcome because they bring knowledge, money, and generate wealth. You should be kissing their feet. You want to talk about leaches then talk about the many lazy citizens.

      Perhaps you should take your own advice and keep your mouth SHUT. How do you feel when someone says that to you?

      Tim, your logic is flawed because you confuse correlation with causation. Blacks are less better off than their white counter parts because.... your conclusion is "it must be racism". If it were that simple then how do you explain blacks being less better off in every part of the globe compared to their white counter parts whether they are in control or not??? When you look at the big picture it becomes clear the main reason isn't racism (although that may play a contributing part), it points to more of a social structure/organizational issue where there are no easy answers.

      February 1, 2012 at 5:21 am | Report abuse |
  86. manx

    Slow day for the holies.

    February 1, 2012 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris Martin

      YES ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST, FROM THE TIME WE WAKE UP, AND GO TO WORK UNTIL THE TIME WE GO TO SLEEP. WE FINALLY ADMIT, WE FINALLY DEAL WITH IT. THANK YOU FOR HELPING US REALIZE HOW RACIST WE ARE. NOW CAN WE GET ON WITH LIFE , THANKS SO MUCH!!!!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Conrad Shull

        One thing most white people don't do is type all caps. A whole lot of us know better.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
  87. Bob Saget

    Some stereotypes are true. Deal with it. Look at statistics, it doesn't mean you treat an individual any different, but sometimes you have to make decisions based on numbers; not on your holier-than-though fanciful mindset.

    January 31, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Adina

    "...or willing to shamelessly exploit racial anxieties and resentments..." - bringing this up is great, but I think it would've been better to also point out that it was highly effective. If this was post-racial America, that particular candidate's rhetoric wouldn't have been wildly cheered by debate or speech audiences, nor would it have been the sort of rhetoric that would land him a win in the SC primary.

    January 31, 2012 at 11:28 pm | Report abuse |
  89. james

    "Post Racial" is brought about by those who won't let it go and blame everything on Racial Bias–Give it a rest–

    January 31, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Hawkins

    Wow, you have to be one of the most inconsiderate and uneducated person of this world. I don't usually comment on people's writing, but you have won the ball. I had to stop reading yoru article when you claimed "When schools serving mostly students of color are more than ten times as likely to be places of concentrated poverty, and far more likely to have the least experienced teachers?" Are you serious. I went to a school of mostly students of color and I am white. I had a great set of teachers and they were of many races. Many of the students I went to school with had full scholarships to prestigious colleges and universities. By the way they were "students of color." That statement alone is inconsiderate. People like you are the reason why racism is an issue. It's people who promote which this article does a great job of. So please, spare us all the trouble of having to read some opinion based article that demoralizes a white person for their accomplishments. I know plenty successful "people of color" who would be more than offended with the words you have written.

    January 31, 2012 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris Martin

      AMEN! I was so tired of these issues 'being faced" every day, I left the United States, and I don't plan on coming back! I am so tired mostly of these ignorant whites and their "articles of trend", so tired of a majority of the Black community not accepting any responsibility for shaping the way society behaves. All of these issues, they keep on the outside of society and continue to distract everyone by blaming white people, and then telling us we don't deal with it !

      February 1, 2012 at 1:27 am | Report abuse |
    • !!

      Oh the irony. Speaking from the heart rather than the mind again? Do yourself a favor. Lock yourself in a library and read some academic literature on race. You will be surprise to learn how blind you were.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:48 am | Report abuse |
  91. sean

    Asian Americans GDP per capita is around $60,000, White Americans is around $40,000. do I think it's because Asians are Asians that they on average make more money than other races? no. it's called work and education. they are hard working as a people.

    January 31, 2012 at 10:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Night Fury

      D*mn right! Boston has some of the world's leading hospitals (Mass General, Boston Children's Hospital, etc). A surgical team led by an Asian-American doctor (Dr.Heung Bae Kim) just successfully transplanted 6 organs in a 9-yr-old girl who came to him from out-of-state. Well guess what? Dr. Kim and all the other Asian-American and Jewish doctors who dominate Boston's world-class medical centers did NOT get there because of some quota system. They got there because of MERIT. Brains and talent, period. Or they wouldn't be there and last there. So anyone who is racist you better pray you don't get cancer in the Boston-area because odds are you will be operated on by an Asian-American (Chinese, Indian, Korean, etc) or Jewish surgeon.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  92. Pharos Sirrom

    In reality a post-racial America is not and will never be possible. This is a age where racism is high-tech and will remain so forever. It is built into the system. This exist in hiring practices, the way credit is granted, mortgages are written and written into the curriculum of schools in every under privileged neighborhood. This is done simply to ensure only once race of people succeed and will always stay at the top despite whether they are qualify for the job or no. And that is and will always be the America I will know. I you never see or encounter this, then I know what race you are. A great album that speaks of this sort of issue from a high-tech prospective is "Mind Control" by Stephen Marley.

    January 31, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Citizen Barrack

    I don't get it, how can you complain about a problem, yet offer no actual solutions aside from naming street after morally corrupt civil rights activists. What's the plan Tim? Guess all those books behind you are less read and more placed to make you appear smart.

    January 31, 2012 at 10:38 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Maya

    Great, another guilty white progressive. THAT is something we haven't seen in a while.

    Okay, fine. You're RIGHT. All white people are racists and members of racial minorities who fail in life are in no way responsible for that occurrence. If anyone disagrees with you, they are either racist or delusional. Isn't that convenient? It is so much easier to just plaster labels on people instead of actually presenting a logical argument.

    Racism does exist, but it is immoral to try to force those of us who are not racist to be responsible for the actions of those who are. If a black person robs a store, I don't expect all the black people in the area to apologize and pay for it. I don't think that all Muslims and Arabs are terrorists, and I don't expect them to apologize or pay for the wrongdoing of other Muslims and Arabs. So, why is it I should be held responsible for the racism of other white people? Oh, that's right. I'm UNCONSCIOUSLY racist. You, a stranger, KNOW that I am racist. I guess that you're unconsciously a self-righteous assh**e.

    January 31, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kyle

      agreed. the majority of us do not think like Newt Gringrich as this article states we do.

      January 31, 2012 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Lonnie

    Tim Wise has always gave great advice. I am an AA who listens to what he has to say. Not because I feel he is on my side because there is no fare game in war. I have given him an ear via listening to him on Youtube.com for some years now. Yes America has always been racist due to white problems, AA didn't enslave any white people at all in America. The racism and pre determine rights that the Feds, State and Local levels gave whites in the begining was wrong. Most white people get manager position because of thier color not there smarts. I know this well I worked 15 years with DOD and I was a US Marine and there was racism in the ranks. The most was at the top, I could even name a few.

    January 31, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maya

      That's the most racist thing I've heard in a long time. What if I said that most black people who get admitted to universities only do so because of affirmative action? Is that okay?

      January 31, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Hawkins

        Maya...
        I am on your side here with the whole racism thing. But this article isn't just black and white... Its light vs. dark. The article states people of ligher skin tones and darker skin tones, hispanics and latinos. It is a purposeful bashing on how white people work just as hard as black people to get ahead in this world. And when a whie person comes out on top, we are the racist ones. This article is plain ignorant and foolish to write!!!

        January 31, 2012 at 11:12 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Anne

    Great perspective!

    January 31, 2012 at 10:24 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Patrick

    we elected an african american to the highest office in this country, twenty years ago that was unthinkable let alone sixty years ago. while yes, there are still racist people in this country, I have never been more optimistic for the youth of this country as we become more diverse and more accepting. I truly believe we are in a post racial America despite what Mr. Wise says.

    January 31, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lonnie

      Patrick,

      We are not in a post racial America until all has been paid back for life lost. There are many other nationalitys that have been compensated for the lost of life at the hands of white settlers, except African people. This in the end will cause destruction because blood that hasn't been paid for will be taken out on those who are past due on thier account. Justice would bring a post racial America but not the other way around.

      January 31, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Citizen Barrack

        You expect my family, who arrived from Norway in the 50's, to pay reparations? You are an idiot.

        January 31, 2012 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Patrick

        what are you implying? that white people of today, especially the younger generation who had nothing to do with what happened a hundred and fifty years ago owe and are responsible and must be brought to justice for something that their ancestors did? but, if you mean that we need to force our justice system to fix the mistakes that lead to less discrimination based on race, then I agree.

        January 31, 2012 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Silence

        You expect my family who are descendents of abolitionist Quakers to pay reparation. Your an idiot.

        February 1, 2012 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
      • IMHO

        The government can only compensate for what it did. You can't expect to sue every white person because of the color of their skin. That is a kind of racism itself, and would be unjust. (indeed, with so many multi-ethnic babies people would have to sue themselves in some cases!).

        The government has made up for its injustice through years of affirmative action. Under affirmative action, people of color, were given a better shot at jobs than whites.

        It was not a perfect solution, but it was an open admission by the government that it had participated in the system of apartheid that existed here.

        February 1, 2012 at 4:15 am | Report abuse |
      • eville11

        Money really makes you happy... nice set of principles. "Give me some money and I'll forgive". you are being bought, just like a slave would. GO up a notch there and maybe you can relate why certain African tribes sold other Africans into slavery... and then you can sort out which African Americans were sold by Africans and which were by euro-colonists, and which today should be given compensation. Then if you still want to spill some blood, I hope you don't cut yourself....

        February 1, 2012 at 7:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Truth Hurts

        You'll get payment.

        In lead.

        February 1, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • JC

      Ignore the comments below. You are all missing the point. Racism is not strictly about what happened in the past. Recall that countrywide was sued for wide scale racial discrimination. There are plenty of examples of systematic racism in the present, Tim Wise listed a few. But unfortunately, no one reads academic studies in America, no one reflects critically, we just assume that what we see with our eyes has the weight of rigorous expert analysis.

      Worst we have zero critical thinking skills. It kills me to hear someone list one example as if one exception should denounces an entire trend. If you mother walked away from a train crash would you then conclude that train crashes are harmless! Obviously not, then stop citing these one examples as if they have the weight of carefully analysis. Anti-intellectualism and poor critical thinking at its worst!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Seiryu64

        Thank you, JC. Every word you typed is reflected in the responses to this article...

        February 1, 2012 at 2:36 am | Report abuse |
  98. Quinnthology

    Classic Tim Wise!!

    January 31, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Report abuse |
  99. Ginnette Powell @caffeinehusky

    All of this thank you Tim for all that you do! I know plenty of folks who voted for Obama but in everyday dealings are racist as all get out!

    January 31, 2012 at 9:20 pm | Report abuse |
  100. Angie

    Well said. I appreciate your candid and honest evaluation of the issue.

    January 31, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
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