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Opinion: Tim Wise: What is post-racial? Reflections on denial and reality
Tim Wise writes that believing in a post-racial U.S. requires "unwillingness to stare truth in the face."
January 31st, 2012
05:27 PM ET

Opinion: Tim Wise: What is post-racial? Reflections on denial and reality

Editor’s note: Tim Wise is the author of six books on race, including his most recent: Dear White America: Letter to a New Minority.  He tweets at @timjacobwise.

By Tim Wise, Special to CNN

(CNN) - Being asked to describe what “post-racial” means is a bit like being asked to describe a leprechaun, cold fusion or unicorns: we know what is meant, but, if we are willing to be honest, we also know that none of the four describe something real, something tangible, something true.

To me, “post-racial” is little more than a nonsense term devised by people (mostly white, frankly), who would simply rather not deal with the ever-present reality of racism and ongoing racial discrimination.

It is a diversion, intended to paper over the divisions that have long roiled our nation, and continue to do so today.

Though some sincerely believe this describes America’s reality– especially since a man of color was elected president - the illogic of believing this signals the veritable death of racism should be apparent: after all, we certainly wouldn’t claim that sexism and patriarchy had been smashed in Pakistan, India, Great Britain, Israel or the Philippines just because they all have elected women as heads of state.

Perceptions of discrimination a black and white story

To believe that the United States is post-racial requires an almost incomprehensible inability or unwillingness to stare truth in the face.

How can we be post-racial, after all, when the typical white family has 20 times the net worth of the typical black family, and 18 times that of the typical Latino family?

How can we be post-racial when studies find that even white men with criminal records are more likely to be called back for job interviews than black men without them, even when all other credentials and personal characteristics are indistinguishable?

How can we be post-racial when evidence suggests that the lightest-skinned immigrants earn roughly 17% more than the darkest-skinned immigrants, even when qualifications and levels of productivity are the same?

How can we be post-racial when Asian Americans, Latinos and blacks with college degrees are anywhere from one-third more likely to nearly twice as likely to be unemployed as their white counterparts? When schools serving mostly students of color are more than ten times as likely to be places of concentrated poverty, and far more likely to have the least experienced teachers?

How can we be post-racial when people of color continue to be so disproportionately targeted by our nation’s drug laws?

Although whites use drugs just as often as blacks (and more often than Latinos), it is people of color who comprise nearly 90% of persons incarcerated for a drug possession offense.  And it is people of color who are disproportionately stopped and searched for drugs and other illegal contraband, even though they are no more likely (and sometimes less likely) to be in possession of such items than whites are.

How can we be post-racial, when presidential candidates are either too afraid to raise these issues publicly, for fear of voter backlash (as with the Democratic incumbent), or willing to shamelessly exploit racial anxieties and resentments (as with at least one of the primary Republican challengers) by calling President Obama the “food stamp” president, or suggesting that poor black kids have “no habits of work” and should be made to clean their own schools as janitors?

This, despite the fact that most people in poor communities do work, and black teenage unemployment rates (now well over 40 percent) reflect only those black teens who are searching for jobs, and thus, by definition already have a solid work ethic, lacking only the opportunities to put that ethic into practice.

Sadly, the claims of America’s equanimity and post-raciality are not really new.

Even in the early 1960s, before the passage of civil rights legislation, at a time when we were still a formal apartheid state, polls found that a vast majority percent of whites already believed that blacks had just as good a chance to obtain a good job, housing or a good education as we or our children did.

In other words, white denial - one might say, delusion - on the matter of the nation’s racial reality has been longstanding.

It’s hard to say when or if we will actually arrive at that place called “post-racial”, or, better yet, post-racism.

But until whites begin naming streets in our neighborhoods after Martin Luther King, and naming the schools that our children attend after him (rather than fearing that such a designation might signify that our kids attend a “ghetto school”), I know for certain we are not “post-racial” yet.

 The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Tim Wise.

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  1. Goose66

    "But until whites begin naming streets in our neighborhoods after Martin Luther King, and naming the schools that our children attend after him (rather than fearing that such a designation might signify that our kids attend a “ghetto school”), I know for certain we are not “post-racial” yet." You had me right up to that last statement. Seriously, this is what its going to take for you to feel that racism has been overcome? Because the rest of the things that you mentioned are cultural leftovers of racism that existed in teh 60s and 70s, and will take time to filter out of our society. But all that be dammed, as long as the streets are named after Martin Luther King, we will all be good.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
  2. ES

    I am russian, I am color blind . Really. Because when I grew up color oif the skin wasn't somethign I thought much about. Everybody was very pale. Now in the US I also don't think about it. In my mind's eye when I imagine a person I don't think about their color. Sometimes I only realize 2-3 years after meeting someone that the person is black, not just very tanned. It is just not something I think about.
    The whole race thing has to do with the culture you grow up in. But I also think if black didn't remind us so often that they are black, then may be we could foreget about it all together. With race subject being so much in your face everywhere you go it is pretty impossible to ignore it.
    By the way, I hate black music. It is vile, promotes violence and disrespect. I hate it. There, I said it. No black music in my house. So now everyone can scream "racist".

    February 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      When you say "black music," do you mean vulgar rap?? Or, do you mean soul music, R&B, and other types of non violent musinc made by blacks? Can you at least stop generalizing the darn word "black?" you do understand that there are other types of black music right? and not just rap? Please tell me you do because if not, you need to Americanize yourself a bit more. Shake off some of that Russin.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • ES

        Truth, what is the music that you mostly see on TV today or being in the charts as most popular? Is it soul or jazz? I like them, and I know it has origins in the blacks culture. No. Today's music is rap and hip-hop . This is the music I was referring to. And I believe you already knew that.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sagogo

      You're not racist. Just ignorant of positive music made by Black artists.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • s~

      See, if you say you're "color blind" – which I don't believe is true, than you're just ignorant. If you say you're aware of differences in color, value and culture, than you're a racist and a bigot.

      This is why we can't ever have an honest discussion about race.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • ES

        S~, perhaps, let me clarify. No rap or hip-hop in my house, whether performed by white, black or yellow people.
        And , yes, I am getting more familiar wiith race issues since I constantly hear about them . You people are turning me into a racist.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • john galt 37

      I see your point:

      You're saying that if you like someone, it is because they have similar tastes (in music), religion, fashion, or opinions, regardless of skin color. That's admirable.
      And if you don't like someone, it's because he's a dick–regardless of skin color. Equally as admirable.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      E.S.

      I did not know that by the way you phrased your sentence. Now I do. I love hip-hop. Big difference from Rap. But that has nothing to do with race. My parents cant stand any of it.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      I do believe that unfounded claims of racism have spawned "white resentment" amongst many whites. I would never want to accuse anyone of that unless they really are. you know, white robe and all or white shirt. Just stay open minded

      February 1, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  3. rteiou

    Speaking from personal experience, whites often think to themselves "well I'm not racist, so racism doesn't exist." I used to believe the same thing when I was younger. As an adult though I've seen far too many instances of discrimination against blacks to tell myself that racism doesn't exist. These weren't ambiguous racially discriminatory events either. Since I'm white the white people doing the discriminating just flat out told me what they were doing.

    We need to stop tolerating discrimination of any type and make America live up to the ideal of being a meritocracy. The only way to do this though is to step up enforcement of antidiscrimination laws. Also, I was initially against reparations when I first heard about the idea. The more I think about it though the more I think it's necessary. If white men have all the wealth then they have the power to discriminate. They only have most of the wealth because discrimination against women and minorities was written into our laws in the past. We should pay reparations to women of all colors as well. Ben Bernanke just injected $600 billion into the economy and we bailed out some major industries. No one can still say that the government doesn't help to pick economic winners and losers.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • john galt 37

      Those who group all whites into the same group are just as wrong as all those who think all blacks think alike (yes, i use the term "black" because i was advised to do so by a black colleague who pointed out that co-workers from Egypt and white South Africa were also considered 'African American') When I hire or fire someone it is based entirely on who they are as a person and the quality of their work. If they choose to see the non-hire or firing as a racist statement (some do), that is their issue, not mine. They choose to see the world through a racist-prism–seeing the world as black and white social commentary. I see the world through a green prisim–if you can help me earn a profit, I'll hire you, share the profit with you, and we'll both be better off.

      I like blacks who share my world point of view, like Condi Rice. And I dislike those whom I don't have a common view of the world–Oprah. It has nothing to do with your race, just who you are as a person.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
  4. sharky

    And CNN continues with the blame white people racism.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • minnie

      Well, who else would be to blame other than white people? It was whites (like me) who dragged Africans here in chains, whites who fought bitterly for slavery, whites who enacted laws mandating separate schools, swimming pools, and water fountains.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Sick Of Double Standard

    Racism will continue to exist in America as long as people can make money from "Racism" and/or promoting a particular race. Is the "Miss Black USA" pagent racist? Is the BET network racist? In Congress there are Black & Latino Caucuses. Would it be "racist" to form a White Congressional Caucus? Of course!

    To start the end of racism, we (as a country) should not allow ANY form of racism to exist. Not just White vs. [insert color here] racism.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      You do understand the foundation of those organizations you speak of right? you do understand that at a point in history there was a need for those groups right? You do understand that those groups have become support for those who have been discriminated against right? Nothing to do with racism just a response to it. Now, are they still relevant is the question to be asking.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  6. mary

    Here"s the deal..
    Black people still think it exists.. White people don't..
    So who "really" has the problem..
    The ones thinking they are being treated wrong...Or the ones that don't understand what the he** they are doing wrong?

    February 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • NK

      Many white people, especially the educated ones, believe that racism exists. Please don't lump us all in the same group.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Dozer

    I always wanted to bang a black chick

    February 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Dean

    When we can have a Congressional White Caucus or a White Entertainment Channel on tv then we will be approaching post-racial.................................

    February 1, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew D

      You've had your 200+yrs let someone else drive murder hog

      February 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • John Smith

      White entertainment Channel??? Doesnt CMT count?

      February 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sagogo

      I think CMT, VH1, and MTV have that covered.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • ChuckMurph

      You already do. They're just called CMT, NBC, ABC, CBS...

      February 1, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Rob D

    I am a 33 year old white male, and consider myself to be pretty successful. I came from an all white family that had little money, but we got by. I graduated from high school because my parents taught me that it was my job to do so. I couldn't afford college, so I went into the military and worked my butt off for 11 years and made something of myself. From there I got out of the military and worked my butt off again to become a nurse in the civilian world. I can now provide for my family and I teach my children the value of hard work.
    None of this was because of the color of my skin. It was because I was taught by my parents, who just happened to be white, that if I want to be successful in life, I have to work very hard. I never had a thing handed to me. This article is just a bunch of figures, let's get down to the heart of the issue. When children are raised in environments that don't encourage success, what do you expect to happen. Maybe if people would stop making excuses and get to work on bettering themselves and the world around them we wouldn't have the problems we have.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      So true!! Says the black guy lol

      February 1, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • NK

      With all due respect to your work ethic and the parents who raised you well, you cannot tell how it is to grow up black. You simply don't have the experience. There are other variables that you are no even aware of, cause you only have one life with one skin color throughout. You can tell (from your own experience) how it is to be 9 yrs old versus 19 yrs old but not how it is to be black vs white.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rob D

        I ask you this. Does not every community in America offer public schools? Are there not scholarships and grants available to every person in America? Is the military not always hiring? I have plenty of friends who were raised by single mothers, and they are quite successful. It's simple, work hard, put everything you can into raising successuful children, do everything you can to make the world a better place, and take ownership of your situation.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rob D

        NK, how can you tell what it's like to grow up white, if I can't tell what it's like to grow up black? just curious

        February 1, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dean

      Your key phrase was taught by my parents........................................................
      Almost 70 percent of black children are born to single mothers. Those mothers are far more likely than married mothers to be poor, even after a post-welfare-reform decline in child poverty. They are also more likely to pass that poverty on to their children. Sophisticates often try to dodge the implications of this bleak reality by shrugging that single motherhood is an inescapable fact of modern life, affecting everyone from the bobo Murphy Browns to the ghetto “baby mamas.” Not so; it is a largely low-income—and disproportionately black—phenomenon...............................................................Until this changes there will always be the inequities the author is whining about.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • lt_murgen

        I agree and do agree, Dean.

        Racism still exists, and to deny it is part of the reason it still festers. But it cuts both ways. You bring up an excellent point about single mothers. THe lack of a 2-parent household has a negative impact on a child's future economic potential. So why does the black community not express more outrage at men who ditch their baby-mamas at the first opportunity? Why has such a thing become so common as to be almost a cliche?
        Isn't the idea that "marriage is for white folks" or "there are no good black men" (as stated by black women) expressions of racist stereotypes as well?

        February 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • john galt 37

      When a black man is unsuccessful, racism is the culprit and root of the blame.

      When a white man is unsuccessful, his blame is his own sheer stupidity.

      End racism by accepting that often you are the reason for your success or failure–not someone else.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Nunya

    Funny the author of 6 books throws out information as if it were facts without alluding to where he gained all of his "facts".

    Studies show that 99% of all opinion piece facts are inaccurate/misleading crap made up by the author.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keith

      that's why they're opinions, dummy.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • sharky

        I don't think you really read the post correctly. The person was talking about facts being put into an opinion piece and those facts not being accurate.

        Dummy.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • NewHavenZ

      Someone doesn't know how to use a hyperlink. Lots of references, you just need to "click" on the blue text

      February 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • jj

      Nunya, did you not see the hyperlinks on every stat in this article that lead to (in most cases) primary sources?

      February 1, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  11. bribarian

    multiculturalism has always been a fail

    February 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim

      Just the fact that the writer says "especially since a man of color was elected president" shows his racism.

      Racism means that any amount of black in your upbringing makes you black, because black is an inferior race that corrupts whiteness.

      In a non-racist America, Obama is not "a man of color", he is white.

      Let's do the math. He has 1 white natural parent (mother) 1 black natural parent (father) 1 white nurturing parent (grandmother) and 1 white nurturing parent (grandfather).

      From a total of 4 parents, he has 3 white and 1 black. In my book, if all races are equal, Obama is not colored, he is white (3 whites is greater than 1 black).

      End of discussion.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Not Likely

        "In a non-racist America, Obama is not "a man of color", he is white. "

        His skin is black moron. Racism is based on PERCEPTION.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  12. R. Glenn

    Most of us that live in this country have ancestors from many cultures and countries. It use to be that an English man could be a racist if he didn't like Irish, or that an Irish man lived in the ghetto. Frankly, the only true race I am, is an American. The American race is all of those who have been born in the US. We represent a conglomerate of european, asian, african, islanders, etc. We have multiple cultures in our history. Just like Hispanics can be black, white, or different cultures, so are real Americans. The liberals need to stop pushing racism and grow up and get over it. The most racist people I have ever met are those who want to pass laws to stop it, and therein lies your problem. Its the racist that want laws to fight racism so they can keep the wound bleeding instead of healing. They cause most of the racism in this country. I'm an American!! This is my motherland and my people!!! We need to unite ourselves as Americans and stop the division the left continues to want!!

    February 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  13. SunnyDay

    I'm glad they got someone white to explain to people of color should think about race. That makes perfect CNN sense.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • AdamTheGr8

      So white people are not a race? & therefore can have no opinion? – wow.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Marc L from NY

    I think the question should be: How can we be post racial when judging someone based on their looks, or skin color, or nationality is not just human nature, but just a natural act in nature.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  15. John

    Of course there is racism in America, racism is human nature. It is in every country and culture known to man.
    I have traveled all around the world and feel America is the least racist country.

    for the most part, people here judge you not by your skin color but by your actions. Unfortunately the left in America has falsely accused so many people, often their political enemies, as racists, when in fact they are not anything of the sort. If you want to enforce immigration laws, you are racist against Mexicans, if you don't approve of Obama and want him out of the presidency, then you must be a racist....In fact the exact same things said about Bush are often called racist when said about Obama...Not that I agree with any Hitler reference but when a Hitler mustache was put on Bush, nobody cared...When it was put on Obama, many people called that racist.....The left in America has inadvertently driven a wedge between the races in attempt to discredit the right.. They have done more damage to race relations then anyone else in the last 25 years of American history...

    They walk around playing a deadly game of a racial snipe hunt, accusing anyone and everyone of being a racist when they disagree with them...

    February 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Not Likely

      "for the most part, people here judge you not by your skin color but by your actions. Unfortunately the left in America has falsely accused so many people, often their political enemies, as racists, when in fact they are not anything of the sort."

      Absolute nonsense. What do you call Gingrich calling Spanish the "language of the ghetto?" What do you call Gingrich offerign to go to the NAACP and teach blacks that they ought to work? What do you call Allen West accusing blacks of beign too dumb to get of the "Democratic plantation?" The modern GOP is full of race-baiting clowns. It's a sad state of affairs.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • acthet

        the truth

        February 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • sharky

        The truth.

        February 1, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Tom

    Was born in the South – no longer live there but I hear from family and others regularly. They are still all racists and the language has changed from direct attacks against blacks to that of Latinos. Seems to be fashionable to hate anyone who speaks Spanish. I think it is time for new Civil Rights Laws for specifically to protect Latinos in America.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Adrian

    Stop calling them "people of color". Black is the absence of color, the whites are the colored folk.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Memphis

    At this point, sadly, I believe that the most harm to one's race comes internally. As mixed race individual, who would be classified by most as Black based on looks alone, I've experienced different cultures. The state of African American youth is sad. We romance the absolute WRONG things in our music. At some point in the last several decades, the absolute worst of our culture has been highlighted in music and caused a shift in priorities. Our grandparents would be ashamed of us as a whole. Previous generation's sacrifices were FORGOTTEN. We're responsible for what transpires, and nobody can make you ignorant or relish a lifestyle that leads to imprisonment. Ignorance and crime are a choice.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Call yourself MIXED!

      You say you are mixed yet you go on to talk about being black? That is not what you are. Yielding towards the idiots who refuse to accept us mixed people is what is adding to the ignorance about races. I am mixed and that is what I am and proud of it. I wont let ignorance that I experience which is mostly from black people who like to claim us, change the TRUTH about what I am.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Truth

        You need a history lesson. How many whites are claiming you??

        February 1, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Truth

        I bet you whites won't be claiming you. Not enough of you to claim your own race yet. The historical context if you ever studied dealt with mixed people as blacks because of the one drop rule that whites made up. Or the brown paper bag test. "Mixed" people identified as black because thats who had their backs. Was often the result of a slave being rapped by the slave master. Learn a thing or to will ya?

        February 1, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dangerous Radical

      Then fix it

      February 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  19. The Deceiver Novel

    It's the culture that defines race. The more both sides discuss how bad it is, the younger generations will follow. Everyone has an equal opportunity in this nation. It starts in the home, the parents, the neighborhood. It's class, not race that has a much better argument of being disparaging. Go to a rich public school suburb compared to an impoverished public school and you'll see a difference in what they have. BUT, go to an elementary school in either district and you'll notice the children have no malice towards one another because of their skin, they are just curious. It's class issues that are actually the dividers. Does a CEO care about the skin color of their workers? Sorry, no, you'll never get me to say they do. If they did in this world, their company would be toast. They care about competency. Race? No. Class? Much better argument.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ghost of Dickens

      And the correlation between poverty and race is ?

      February 1, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stashu

      Equal opportunity only comes from an equal playing field. Same education, same class, same contacts etc. We may all have the same potential given the same starting point but do we have equal opportunity if I come from a good home (all the basic needs, computers, internet etc) and you don't. If i have the money to go the best schools and you don't? If I can afford to leave in a nice neighborhood through inherit wealth due to class separation dating back over time and you don't? Do you have equal opportunities as the Kennedy offspring? Think about the elites and their opportunities and then think about how they gained some of their riches. At whose expense? Was it always legal? Will the have nots ever be able to catch up or will they always be playing catch up. Almost all of us have more opportunities than the previous generation BUT we do NOT have equal opportunities

      February 1, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  20. BIGFELLA313

    I find it extremely insulting for white person to tell me that there is no more racism. As if you have ever walked a day in my shoes! Racism still exsists the only difference today is that the racist people know when and where to be racist!!!!!!!!!!

    February 1, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • The dude

      In fact I have felt racism. There are plenty of Latino, Black, and Asian racists too you know. I have never cared about ones skin color or where they are from, however just because you were born white does not mean there aren't people who hate you just for that. I actually feel some, perhaps resentment, in your comment alone. So while I don't deny you have had your fair share, don't think for a second that it is one sided.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • AdamTheGr8

        Agreed. Racism exists – lets move on.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Me

      Very astute observation. I'll bet you're right.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  21. s~

    Decades of inner city politics, vast majority of them liberal politicians, and billions and billions money spent, yet we see no improvement. It's always the same issues every day. But they keep voting the same type of politican every election.

    I blame the individual b l a c k the most. It's their life. They need to take charge of their life andchange their behavior/life style ... whatever you want to call it.

    Than I blame the so called b l a c k entertainment industry for their stupid and irresponsible message.

    Finally I blame people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, individuals who make a living off of poor minorities, particularly poor b l a c ks.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Betty Black

      I agree with you 100% and I am black. They as a whole truly like to view themselves as victims. Racism IS alive but it is nowhere NEAR as bad as it was. There were laws on the books that made racism LEGAL and hurting people LEGAL because of their skin color.
      No one is forcing poor black people to live in trashy surroundings, CLEAN UP YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS! Windex costs 2 bucks. Garbage bags, 5 bucks. There is no excuse for people dirty and ghetto. Just because you are poor does not mean you sell your dignity and have to be unkempt.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Brian

    I'm afraid I'm one of the white people that is tired of talking about race. Even Morgan Freeman is tired of it. So if you're mad at me, talk to Morgan.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Memphis

      When there's a cultural shift of young blacks to appreciate what previous generations struggled for, then I'll pay more attention to the obvious racism that is still present in specific areas. I'm Black. I think that ignorance is relised among young people now. Seriously. Kind of disgusting.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Memphis

        *relished

        February 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Me

      I *heart* Morgan Freeman! (and I'm white)

      February 1, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Truth

    I dont get it. When will people stop labeling an entire race by the few bad apples. It would be better to say, "some or many blacks" than "all" blacks or generalizing. In my travels, I have met whites who were dirt poor, on food stamps, lazy, been in jail, etc. I have met just about every race of people who have been in this situation. The only thing is, it seems like whites control everything because there are more of them in the world.

    Yes, many whites are racists idiots, even the ones who don't want to admit it. They know there are well educated, very successful blacks in this country. They know the same about every race. Its just that they either have a superiority complex (as many whites do just because your white) or are jealous of anothers success because they were the lazy ones and use race as a way to make themselves and their useless lives seem better. Hell, white people were the lazy ones for along time. The slaves did all the hard work and whites sat on their butts. So since they actually had to start working for themselves, they decided to corner the market on everything early. Like, before any other race had the means to beat them to the punch.

    I believe that many minorities use race as a way to get out of responsibility. Not all but a lot. Not making any excuses for anyone. But its those WASPs who beat us to the punch early on. Whites are not neccessarily racist, just power hungry. The reason: they do not want to lose their dominant position economically. You see their resistance to hispanics. Soon, whites will be the minority and they are working hard to stay on top even in the event that happens. A devious little bunch arnt they? So, when I say "white" I am referencing all those WASPs out there who control the fortunes of America. Those who are working tirelessly to make sure they stay on top and they do that at all of our expense. See, these white dont even care about their own......They make their own people think it is because the blacks, browns, etc want their money. Question: if these so called middle to working class whites out there are working everyday and not breaking even, if they cannot pay the bills and are struggling in this economy, why believe anything your fellow conservatives tell you? They are lying to you and have been for decades. They have successfully made you vote against your own interests. Trust me, blacks, etc on "welfare" are not trying to take your money because they want their own. What you should ask is why do my own people keep me bankrupt?

    February 1, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • J

      White individuals only comprise 20-25% of the world population yet hold the vast majority of wealth and power. Check your history to learn just how that wealth and power was derived.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • minnie

        History will tell you that much of the power and wealth gained by Europeans (whites) comes from taking by force what didn't belong to them!

        February 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Truth

        Wrong!! Whites outnumber blacks and other minorities in the USA. Where most of the racism is found. You should research.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Response to writer called Truth: I find it strange that you oppose stereotyping people of various races, but you feel it's OK to pretend to read people's minds and motivations. Let me tell you: you lack that supernatural power. I haven't met a white person I thought was racist since the early 70s–though in the 50s and 60s I did. I'm white and I talk to whites often about racism, and none claims to discriminate on the basis of race, but rather with regard to character or qualifications. We often complain among ourselves about many African Americans pulling the race card all the time and African Americans concluding that what caused some unfavorable result for them was the racism of some white person. If I'm called to a scene where somewhat has been creating a disturbance, and if the sujbect is an African American, there is a good chance that the subject will tell me I'm harassing him or her on account of race, when I'm actually there to find out what is going on. I figure that the subject is trying to change the subject or embarass me into leaving him or her alone. Anyhow, I guess it's human nature to try to guess why things didn't go our way. If a middle-aged woman doesn't get hired for a job dealing with the public, she might well conclude that it was age discrimination. Or if a well-educated man doesn't get hired for a job requiring only an AA or BA degree, he's likely to suspect that his advanced degrees held him back. Or another person might figure that his or her bodyweight was the reason. However, we don't really know what the real reason was or what people were thinking; however, it's easy to build up a series of "reasons" like this in our minds, and, then, when something else doesn't go our way, say to ourselves, "They're doing it to me again," when we really don't know whether any of those times–or which of those times– we were being discriminated against in that way or in any way. I think that many African Americans ARE discriminated against at times because of the behavior of other African Americans. If an African American has good ethics and qualifications but dresses like and acts like many African Americans in entertainment who want to act like thugs, then the average white person is going to feel uncomfortable. I wish also that many whites and blacks would try rationally discussion instead of throwing out insulting names (which often means that the speaker either thinks he can read people's minds or else has nothing intelligent to say). For instance, person A will say, "I don't like Pres. Obama's health care plan." Then person B replies, "Well, you must be a racist." (which I guess means that only a racist would reject the plan because it's so wonderful). Instead, I'd like to hear this discussion: Person A expresses dislike for the health care plan. Person B replies, "What don't you like about it?" Person A responds, "Well, I don't like these things..." Then person B can disagree over what A thinks the provisions of the plan A, or they can argue over whether the provisions do what each person claims. They might even have to do research. But that's a lot of hard work. Throwing out racial claims seems much easier.

      February 1, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Not Likely

    The only people that ever used this "post-racial" term are the right-wingers who thought the fact that a black man had been elected President gave them the go-ahead to start spewing bigoted comments all over the internet and then, when called on it, the option to proclaim that we were now a "post-racial" society and people should stop playing the "race card." It's nothing but an excuse for more racism and bigotry.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Blackandwhite

      Your comment exemplifies your complete and utter ignorance on this subject. Of course you don’t see past race and you cannot even attempt to see how others do. You’re the type of person who only sees a very underdeveloped view of life and the world. Believe it or not, there are people in the world, (both black and white), who actually judge people by their character and not their skin color. I believe that is the prevailing view of most in this country with the possible exception of you.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
  25. The dude

    Really? another one of these damn stories? Why do the people writing these editorials insist on telling people that they must make a issue of race? I could care less what color someone is. If you are a good person and treat yourself and others right who the hell cares. I think the ones who wish to continue the forcing racism down our throats are the ones who are racist themselves. I don't deny that it exists, but I do believe that is a dying issue that the older generations just wont let die.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Betty Black

      You are 100% spot on! It IS the older generation that is ruining things and want to drag it on. Remember that the ones who used water hoses and siced (sp) dogs on black people are STILL ALIVE!

      Just wait another 10 or 15 years for these old windbags to die off. Racism WILL be much less at least in America.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  26. NorCalMojo

    Some people live to whine about racism. They're never going to let it go.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tony Baloney

      The plain and simple answers to ALL of Ms. Stewart's questions are in REALITY most blacks are criminals and gansters and would rather cheat to get ahead while whites will work to get ahead. Don't believe me, just compare any white neighborhood to a black one in the same town.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Seriously?

        To say that MOST blacks are criminals, and MOST would rather cheat than work is an incredibly ignorant... not to mention it is simply incorrect. You are correct that the RATIO of black criminals to white criminals is higher – however don't make blanket statements about entire demographics. This issue is far too complex to simpify with "blacks are crooks".

        February 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ghost of Dickens

        What baloney

        February 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • BOTH COMMIT CRIMES

        Both commit crimes , it is just what TYPE of crime that varies.

        In America, most street crimes are committed by blacks and latinos.
        In the business world, it is done by whites. You are more likely to get stabbed by a black man and your bank account drained by a white man! That is the difference.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lookout4

      True.
      As long as governments like ours keep racial statistics, we will never get beyond race.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
  27. jim

    If people are racist they're just not living in the now. No one gives a crap about skin color anymore. Bust your ass and don't care about what anybody thinks and everyone will be fine.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  28. s~

    How many b l a c k politicans do we have in this country.. local, state and fed levels? hundreds, if not thousands

    Now, how many asian politicians do we have? not many, miniscule, very little

    As a whole, which ethnic group do better in this society? Asians
    I'm not at all saying that asians are any superior to other racial groups. I'm just pointing out some facts.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew D

      very dysfunctional these facts based on nothing but some misguided fellings. aka garbage

      February 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • s~

        If have a rebuttal say it, but don't be a driveling fool.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew D

      I get it the s is for stuck on stupid. Brilliant!

      February 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
  29. amadeo122

    Excellent article!! and by the comments, we can see the US has still a lot of work to do to be a nation of equality like the founding fathers wanted it.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • will

      The founding fathers were slave owners, where equality in that? The all men are created equal did not apply to your property, now did it?

      February 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Diana

      You are so right Amadeo. This is a powerful and convincing article and sadly your observation about the prevailing state of racist mentality in this country as judged by the comments in this blog is also true.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
  30. scottf

    In reading some of these comments it is obvious some people got whacked in the head with a flaming tennis racquet saturated in " MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY".Why can't people agree to disagree?

    February 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  31. bts

    We were driving in rural Georgia last month when we happened upon an "effigy" of a black man being hung from a tree. I wished I had the presence of mind to take a picture of it, but I was so shocked that I didn't. 2012 people...2012...the author is right. We are NOT post racial. We may be better than we were years ago...but definitely not post-racial!

    February 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Guru

      Exactly, thats why an innocent blackman getting off work in Jackson, MS was beaten and ran over because a group of white kids said they were gonna kill a nig*** tonight. This happened in August of 2010 not 50 years ago.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  32. nugun

    Racism and prejudice exists on all sides of the aisle. It's a great means of keeping us from realizing that groups like the Tea Party & OWS are actually fighting for many of the same issues and have a lot in common. Instead our proletarians use racist to divide us and keep us from unity.

    Want change, add a new bubble to those race questions. Give us an option to choose "Human"

    February 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Andrew D

    Try this stop judging by pigment, and judge the individual act of one to the one. We will never understand things that don't make sense, but we could all be wiser in our thinking, not blind followers. very true

    February 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  34. pam

    President Obama may indeed win the election, but I doubt very much that we will ever have another black president, at least not for a long time. Most white people aren't racist, they are resentful. A lot of white people voted for Obama, but if you are white and have anything negative to say about his policies then you are accused of being a racist. In fact it seems like if you are white then you must be a racist. That is just not fair and I resent it.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Not Likely

      "A lot of white people voted for Obama, but if you are white and have anything negative to say about his policies then you are accused of being a racist"

      no pam, people are accused of being racist for saying bigoted things and demanding birth certificates from the President.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      Pam,

      I am black and I resent it too!! My wife is white, and we cant go anywhere without black women wanting to fight her just for who she is. Racism is not a white thing its an every race thing. I have met them all. White, black, asian, especially asian, indian, muslim, jew, the list goes on. We all feel like we have to get even with our previous tormentors. What I would say to you is that, don't let this get you to a mind set where you hold resentment towards blacks or whoever. Realize that its not the whole but a few.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Turning Texas Blue

    Thank you, Tim. This is is a perfect way to usher in Black History Month, 2012.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Val

    All of you people who keep saying "White people are not the only racists" are being defensive for no reason. You're completely missing the point. Yes, anyone can be a racist, but the fact is that this country was founded by racist white people, and been controlled by white people since then, so naturally minorities have been kicked to the curb while white people have thrived. Not all minorities or white people, I'm not making a generalization, but society does lean in favor towards white people. He laid out the facts. Can't argue with that.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Josh

    This article is a description of the "what" and not the "why". It is easy to lament about conditions of various kinds without gong into WHY they happened. Racism is not necessarily a "why". There are other factors, like the fact that all of these different groups have different Life Conditions to begin with, and these are not set by Race. They are set by geography, family, education, and how much money the family/person had to begin with.

    Essentially, articles like this are just lead-ins for excuses to re-distribute wealth and take from those who earned it to give to those that did not, instead of doing the reasonable thing: helping those who are in trouble through no fault of their own in a reasonable fashion, yet educating those who can do something about their lot in life.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  38. William Demuth

    Lets forget PC for a moment.

    The ONLY way minorities shall amass power is thru economics.

    Black banks, black private schools, black bakeries, black car shops, black bowling alleys, black legal firms.

    Then the blacks only do buisness in them and build up the economic clout to demand change.

    If I were young and black I would be QUITE angry. To see another generation of African Americans being cast aside as new groups take their birth right is astonishing.

    I am honestly surprised they haven't revolted if mass!

    February 1, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • BruntLIVE

      White skin has privileges

      February 1, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Alex in NJ

    Why don't we stop pretending that only White people can be racist? Maybe we will live in a post-racial society when hate crime laws apply to minorities just as much as Whites? See, the door swings both ways? Hate crimes against Whites are exploding in our major cities, particularly Philadelphia and Chicago. No, we aren't in a post-racial society, but we are in a society where it is no longer just minorities to experience racism. So stop pretending like this is a White problem, because it's not. Racism has existed and will continue to exist in every country on Earth. Every race can and has been the perpetrator and every race can and has been the victim. While electing a Black president doesn't mean racism is gone in America, this guy has to admit that it would signify that Racism is light years less of a problem than it was even in the 1960's/70's.

    February 1, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Doug Diamond

    How is that half empty glass working out for ya???

    February 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Sana

    I have a question.... why is it so hard for people to talk about race?

    I mean, people can have discussions about 'class', income distribution among short and tall people, attractive vs not-so-attractive people, even about religion (!) without people getting as upset as they do when race is talked about.

    So I ask, why can't we have a discussion about race?

    February 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris Martin

      This question has been answered several times! It's simple. We are sick and tired, and in the face of losing most if not all of what we had 3 years ago because someone decided to layoff 14 million whites, and keep women and hispanics and gays in their jobs, why should ONLY whites have to deal with racism. What should we do , bake chicken , give another holiday to blacks...offer up what we don;t have any more, because it's not trendy to treat a single white STRAIGHT American male with any dignity and respect? Oh yeah...I've seen this over and over again, and it's people like you who refuse to talk about the real issue...

      February 1, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Guru

        Hey Chris the Templar Knights of White Preservation are recruiting you are a perfect candidate to fight for the White Race and begin preparing for the race war.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sana

        Chris,

        I understand your frustration. I'm trying to figure this all out myself too. You feel your thinking that you've already given up so much, what more do "they" want. I get that. But what's the solution? And if one's response is to say something like "Let gather up all the useless people in the world and ship them off to the moon where we don't need to worry about them", then I think that response isn't really fair and its more a knee-jerk reaction to frustration. I think the only way to figure this out is to continuously engage in a discussion about it (along with class, religion, gender, etc) and not shy away from it. So I think it's great that you posted something, I'd just add that it might be good to be cool when talking about it too...

        so what is the solution?

        February 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • NorCalMojo

      White people have three choices in the conversation about race

      1. be apologetic and divorce/insult our own culture.
      2. be called a racist
      3. avoid the subject

      Wouldn't you pick option 3 too?

      February 1, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  42. slammo

    I think most racisim is a regional problem. I live in CA. and i have lived in most other states. I have seen alot of white on black racisim is the south but here in CA. it's way different. Here it is mostly a Hispanic and black thing(and i'm sorry to say hispanics are the most openly racist people I have seen).When I was growing up it was a Hmung and black thing. I'm white and grew up in a VERY poor ,mixed race neighborhood. I now do very well for myself and not once took a handout to get where iI am.I went to the same schools as all the other kids in my "hood" ,but I still see the same people in the same hood complaining about not getting a fair shake.People have to take their lives in their own hands and stop blaming others for their situation.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Guru

      Exactly. I grew up in Los Angeles CA my neighborhood was Hispanic Black and Samoan I went to USC undergrad so diversity is all I know now in terms of gangs sure the Mexican gangs hate the black gangs etc but hey those are gangs fighting for a war no one still understands. lol but yeah its definitely regional. I live in Atlanta now and race is a huge issue.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Sodapophead

    I'm a 46yr old white male, in my life time I've been married to a White woman, an Asian woman, after that I had a black girlfriend, and now i'm married to a beautiful Hispanic woman. All of them at 1 time or another said bad things about their own race or about white people, I always keep my mouth shut because I felt as if I agreed or joined in I would be looked at as racist. People hate, its a part of who we are, it's not a nice part, but it's a part. I truly don't believe it will ever completely change, as generations pass on, things get a little better, we tolerate each other a little more, but hate is always somewhere inside us waiting for us to get mad.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Over it

    People when we we all be judged acording to our Morals, our work ethic, our character.
    People suceed when they bust there asses at it and dont give up. we all have had discrimination from time to time
    As an Employer I hire the candidate who will best help my company suceed, based on the three previous catagories
    Morals, Work ethic, and character. you could be Purple,,, I dont care
    Take a good look around you today there is not alot to choose from !
    All races need to look within, ask yourself why is there discrimination anyways ? If you apply to my company not able to comunicate effectively or dress like you just got off the Block, or lack the basic skills I need, I wont hire you no matter what color you are >>>
    Fact, There are Lazy, rude, ignorant people in every race, they just go by different names !!!!

    February 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • DCTexan

      Your wish won't come true until we no longer have people (like opinion writers and certain politicians) who depend for their living on the world continuing to see ourselves through the lens of "race."

      February 1, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sana

      Here's the thing about morals, work ethic, character... these are not things developed in a vacuum separate from the influences of society. If you have grown up with teachers who have always held low expectations of you because of your class, accent or skin colour (or combination of the above) then that, along with the myriad other social interactions, shapes your work ethic and morals.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  45. You can call me ray

    I wish I could say I am sorry for having been born with white skin if only it had been my choice. I had nothing to do with my genes. I strive.. work hard and don't like being broad brushed as if I had ever condoned slavery or owe somebody for something I am not responsible for and had no hand in. I will be friends with anyone who wants to be friends but will not associate with enthic retentive people.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
  46. MV

    Wise is just making money, wonder how much of his wealth he gives to the minorities he supposedly sympathies with! My guess........ $ 0. He is no better than al sharpton or Jessie Jackson. We can all be segmentized, and these pimps make money from it.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  47. gOn

    Wow! Looks like the Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy are out in force today! You lost the war, get over it already! Go back and watch The Jerry Springer Show and let the rest of us most the country forward!

    February 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • TomFoolery

      LFMAO!! Loved your post...

      February 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scoot

      How can we be post racial when BLACK kids gather and go to the white side of town and beat the crap out of a random white person and rob them (chicago)? How can we be post racial when one can only see one side of the story...? I guess thats is every white persons fault. This article is crap...

      February 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • GuestBaby

        You think black people can't/don't get robbed by other blacks? I have been. You think white people don't rob blacks or other people of color? Hear that? It's the sound of your argument hitting a brick wall.

        Furthermore, if you read carefully, this article was about the experience of people of color in America, which is NOT anywhere near post racial, obviously. With people like you making such comments, as if white people haven't benefited from privilege since the beginning (and you still are–with a 'white' media, who lets Santorum, Gingrich and Romney get away with stupid, racist comments about 'blah' people on welfare and other assorted ridiculousness). If a minority said something like that about a white person, you'd be all over it. You don't strike me as particularly perceptive, so here's a top: Take some responsibility and realize that sometimes you may not even be cognizant of superior treatment or other "benefits" because of your race.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • GuestBaby

        Furthermore: hypothetically, you're saying that the black kids must have been racist because they targeted white people. That's a logical fallacy. Oftentimes, people are taken advantage of when they seem easily overpowered, vulnerable, weak, occupied/not paying attention or are frightened.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Burbank

    I'm white and experience racism from blacks and Latinos all the time. I wish everyone would just stop whining about it!

    February 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ex-TeaPartyr

      In "Burbank"!?!? I doubt that !!!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Alan

    Membership Has Its privileges.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Annexian

    I'm sick of this PC garbage. All the "Progress" made over the last few decades has largely been twisted by the rich elite as part of their Class Warfare agenda.

    And most white men feel they are marginalized by blacks and women with padded resumes. Oh, there are plenty of blacks/women out there who are good, but the employers "Pick one so we can't easily get sued" and you get the sat through some college types who lord it over you. A white male has to be VERY marketable to get any job above a "mcJob" level, essentially proving he's twice as qualified to work at half the wages. But they just "Pick one" from the "Ethnic" crowd and he gets to be supervisor as long as he doesn't do drugs openly in his office. And the blacks, women, illegal aliens and jobs moved overseas are there to keep him down, in wage and in life.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew D

      the truth is not in you. Never has been or never will you'll continue to past down the this dysfuntional mind set to fit your beliefs over all facts at hand. Your defense of this dysfuntional form of thinking, regardless of truth is the very fuel of the generation to generation past down dysfuntional belief. sad but true

      February 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Jim, Pittsburgh

    White people have more money because they always had more money. It is difficult for a white person to go from poor to NOT poor. It is difficult for anyone to go from poor to NOT poor. This is more a financial problem and cultural problem then a racist problem. And everyone discriminates and gets discriminated. Employers look at language and dress and writing and posture and confidence level and so on...... Employers have to make judgments on who they are going to hire and not. This author greatly simplifies everything down to race. Typical Liberal

    February 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kate

      I agree, this is a financial problem more than a racial problem. Additionally, I don't feel that this is all the white man's fault. While this is clearly a well-written piece, I feel that the statistics were chosen to fool the readers. While getting a job for minorities is difficult, it's not an easy task for white people either right now.

      Also, a lot of racial tension comes from within each racial group. Time and time again, I've heard my friends who are minorities say that they've felt rejected by people of their own race.

      I think this article grossly ignored that we are currently a country in serious debt, and that racism is often emphasized by each racial group.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  52. woops

    i am mexican. and the worst racism i have seen comes not from the whites but from inside my own race.

    no one wants to write an article about that.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • BruntLIVE

      Mexicans like Indians, Latinos and Africans have "hue" wars where they person closest to being white is the best. A dark skinned Mexican is a double wanna in America.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • yeahright

      Oh yeah? You're Mexican? De que parte de Mexico eres?

      February 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  53. ZzwilhelmzZ

    awsome article

    February 1, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  54. AhhPures

    Black culture in America is disgusting, hiello, sorry.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • BruntLIVE

      You are disgusting...ahh sorryl.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • RFrazierSr

      Ahhh, another idiot. But a little secret for those of us whom have had parents or grandparents to clean white folks homes, we think alot of you are pretty disgusting too. I won't say that for everyone. We all have our flaws. But lets grow up purenish.

      The problems of Racism, Black, White America go back to the beginning of this nation. It's not going to be eliminated in 47 years of the law. As we all know our legal system is far from perfect. It's people like this that also continue to perpetuate racism. I would be willing to bet this person can count the number of black people he or she knows personally on one hand. So we are a country that judges a culture or race of people by one idiot? If I did, from your mind set and opinion, white folk would be in trouble. But I am glad I don't. I have too many friends of all races. There are good and bad in every race. I don't think there is a race that can proclaim a perfect race or society.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • EuphoriCrest

      yeah, only a disgusting culture could have given us innumerable sports heroes, R&B, Jazz!, a civil rights revolution, amazing literature and poetry, lifesaving medical devices and procedures, many, many industrial patents, labor (both forced and paid for) the traffic light, peanut butter, Maya Angelou, James Baldwin, Miles, Sam Cooke, the Drifters, the Platters, MOTWN MUSIC, etc, etc, etc. Thanks God I live among a diverse, disgusting culture.

      BTW, RIP Etta James and Don Cornelius.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  55. woops

    affirmative action

    February 1, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  56. DCTexan

    Amazing that this comes out the week that studies of census data show that there are no "all white" communities in the US (only all black ones) and that the two most fully integrated cities in America are in Texas (Dallas and Houston), while the most segregated and racially divided city is...you guessed it...Obama's Chicago!

    February 1, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew D

      Dear brilliant. It's called white flight.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • DCTexan

        Ah..other Mr. brilliant...then why are the white communities so well integrated?

        February 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew

      The reason why Chicago is divided racially (Whites predominantly in the north, Blacks in the south, Latinos in the west) has nothing to do with President Obama. Chicago mayors created the racial divide by gentrification (removal of a racial group from a neighborhood and moving them elsewhere) and by creating public housing that was really to separate Chicago's white side and the Mag Mile from the blacks. If you look at the history of Cabrini-Green neighborhood alone you'll see how the mayor made the buildings to divide and are now in the process of tearing them down for the sake of "urban development/renewal" which is to make high rise condos (to give some credit mixed use/mixed income as well) condos and shopping centers. Please do your historical research before lambasting a persons policies.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • DCTexan

        All I can think to say is...ah, yes exactly. Chicago...where Obama spent most of his political life and where his best buddy and former CoS (Rahm Emanuel) is now mayor has a long and continuing history of segregation. Your point was what exactly?

        February 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • yeahright

      You have no business commenting on something that takes half a brain...

      February 1, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • DCTexan

        For give me but I missed the part where you demonstrated that a single thing that I said was not true?

        February 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Big B

      Please visit New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine... I think you get my point. And no, I'm not saying the people there are racist, I'm simply countering your argument that there are no white communities.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • DCTexan

        From yesterday's Boston Globe report on a study of census data showing "that all-white enclaves “are effectively extinct’’; and that while black urban ghettos still exist, they are shriveling."

        http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/01/31/study-finds-cities-more-racially-integrated/qyENaxW2CvxVrFFOI5kq6I/story.html

        Any more uninformed comments?

        February 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew D

      clssic denial, twisting of facts to fit the usless feelings of the past down generational dysfunction of any ability to be openminded and honest. very sad and very true!

      February 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      The point is is that its a waist of time trying to argue with an idiot!

      February 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      So, in your blind hatred of Obama, you fail to get the history lesson that a previous poster gave to you. It was the Mayors. Not Obama. but go ahead and continue with your ignorant defense. Republicans are all alike. Cant defend themselves with the truth so they just make stuff up. Typical.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
  57. MDub

    Racism will always be an issue. One of the commenters brought up a good point.... Racism isn't just white vs. everyone else. A lot of blacks are racist. As a black man I grew up around racism from blacks to other minority's like Latino and Asians. I've even witnessed Blacks hating each other based on how light their skin is. The bigger issue here is a lack of respect everyone has for each other. When everyone learns to respect each other no matter how different they are then maybe racism will go away

    February 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • DCTexan

      Be careful! Start talking all the color-blind tolerant stuff and you'll be called a racist in a heart beat...I know it's certainly happened to me!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Black

        And it should've your comment only helps the writers article... Those 'all black communities' you speak of is called the projects. You kno those large public housing compounds built by a racist government to house blacks and insure that nothing but chaos happens there.

        February 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • tepeters

        Its too bad that you do not understand from this and your previous comment that your opinions are racist and you don't even no why they are. A pluralist society (nothing to do with liberal or conservative by the way) is not supposed to be color blind or blind to any other human difference. It acknowledges and and encourages the expression of difference. A pluralist sees differences as a horizontal spectrum and not a vertical hierarchy. The that in your previous example saw the cities in Texas as somehow superior to Chicago inb race relations is prrof that at heart your opinions are racist or anti anything that contradicts how you see the world.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • sadmad

      i agree there is alot more going on with in, that needs to change befor anyone can put the blame on just one race!

      February 1, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Jake

    Dave, CA

    This just in: pompous, self-important, white conservative m o r o n posts ignorant pompous anti-liberal comment; no one is shocked. Tune in later for more unsurprising news!

    WOW this is just foul and I'm a liberal!

    February 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Jeremy

    You know what? Racism, at least as a limiting factor in society, IS pretty much dead. The media and politicians just simplify and classify it as that to turn attention from the real issue: classism. Where I grew up is one of the poorest, forgotten, kicked down places you will ever see in a first world country; it also happens to be demographically the whitest region in the United States so it's not good for any sound bytes or votes, therefore...no attention. Rural whites are probably the most ignored and discriminated against group in this country, but the media isn't going to talk about that because it doesn't make for good soundbytes and advertising revenue.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Chris

    What is funny is that half the comments here prove his point. People getting so mad over someones opinion. Believe what you want to believe and do the research for yourself but race has a big impact on an individuals life in America when you want to accept it or not.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • DamnRepublicans

      Chris,

      What is too funny is that this man is a race-baiter who would be in jail for his comments if he was a non-PC persona like David Duke. For the most part, all the common people in this country have long been ready to stop this racist finger-pointing and live life in peace and civility. It is only the elitists in the media and their underlings (like Mr. Wise here pimping his sould for $$$) who are continuing to try to push racism in their efforts to "divide-and-conquer" us all (beige, black, brown, red, tan, white, yellow etc.). If you can't see the obvious, you are too dumb to help yourself.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Raymond Heart

      You must live in a part of the country where such things are dominant. My coworkers are from all around the world and my neighborhood is pretty much the same. The reason why people get mad is because what's being said is a half truth that is designed to upset to gather attention. Racism is dead dude, the only thing remaining is these little glimpses of white guilt being forced upon everyone. So lets remove the white from the equation and see what happens all Black neighborhood high crime, all Asian neighborhood low crime. Look up those statistics and tell me I'm wrong. It's not racist if it's correct.. it's simply an uncomfortable truth. now lets see who gets mad..

      February 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rhonda

      Well said Chris! No one likes to admit that racism is apart of the fabric of America and we as the people express racism every time, we try to defend our actually race as not being racists.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Bill

    Interesting use of old causes. We all are human and we act rationally within our own belief systems. In other words, in order to change what we will become, we would need, collectively, to change who we are. If someone sees that the only people in their neighborhood who are popular and have stuff are drug dealers, don't be surprised that they will want to be drug dealers. However, if they see that the only people in their neighborhood who are popular and have stuff are the most educated professionals, don't be surprised that they will want to be the most educated professionals. People are people. Statistically, we would behave the same if our roles were reversed and we learn from our environment. It is interesting that some think that if you just give someone money that they will want to change their lifestyle or suddenly become interested in more education... no, they will just buy more drugs. You would actually need to remove all the children from that environment and place them into the other before they develop a perception of self, and that of course is stupid. Instead, the system works like this, if you truely want to get ahead then work for it and you will be rewarded. I lost a great job after Sept 11, and it has taken me 10 years to get back close to the same salary, but after 6 or 7 different types of jobs, I am close to where I was. If you are taught to give up and let someone take care of you then you will give up and let someone take care of you. Good luck with that, we are part of a world economy now and China and India do not give welfare to U.S. citizens.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Sherry Soares

    You know, while there are valid points being made, they tend to be standard points that defy what is also true. Our president is not black. He is a combination of races, and assigning a color to him divides him one from the other. I am half Asian and half Caucasian – I refuse to let others divide me to suit themselves. This racial division is easily seen but not easily understood. I do believe as others do that the racial divide is largely perpetuated by the wealthy elite, seeking to maintain their control over the poor by dividing them one against the other through race, e.g., "poor white man, you are better than the poor black man because you are not black" but the the two equally lack power in the overall social structure. The poor white man is distracted from what is most important – freedom, based not on money and position, but on a simple respect for each human life and right to be. Attend to the economics – the balanced flow of money – and rest will take care of itself naturally.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • sadmad

      the only thing you are missing in this statement is god and it would be great!

      February 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
  63. alli gator

    Why does CNN seem to be so worried about this subject? To me, this just keeps racism alive and well. Another thing..why is it always the white person that's racist? The whites are the ones that are expected to change, but others can keep acting the way they always have? That's not right. It will take EVERYONE to correct this problem.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Because White people have all the power in this society, so societal racism is BY DEFINITION White against NonWhite.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sunny

      Ignoring it doesn't make it go away either. And yeah, some minorities have their own form of racism, but the historical factors and consequences are very different. White racism stands in a category by itself.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Brian A

    ....and, do tell me, why do we still keep track of the function between skin color and net worth? And, who exactly is "black" or "white" anyway? If my skin turns black or white, I'm taking my a$$ directly to the ER. Why don't we keep track of things that are CHANGEABLE, you know, like education and stuff. Whenever kids hear about Racial disparity, it automatically sets goals in their little brains. Is this helpful?

    February 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  65. DCTexan

    When liberals managed to convince most people that it is "racist" to pursue the colorblind society that MLK Jr. dreamed of...I figured the road to any real racial progress has been pretty well blocked off...but don't forget that it's all the conservative White people's fault.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sunny

      I don't get this – Conservatives have twisted history so that racism is all the fault of the liberals. So those people fighting so hard AGAINST equal rights were liberal? The South votes liberal?? I don't get how you can possibly rectify this in your head.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Jungg

    I was going to post something heartfelt and meaningful, but my thought process was obliterated by all of the rhetoric in these comments. I should just stop reading CNN opinion pieces, they only bring out the worst in people.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  67. BruntLIVE

    Race, not Terrorists (or Terrorism) will end America, we have not resolved the Civil War and whites/blacks have enmity toward each other.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • TAK

      I agree that the dangers this country faces from within are the greater threat. However, I see much more enmity between left/right, rich/poor, north/south, urban/rural than I do between black/white.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  68. KALOWG

    I think America will be post racial once others can accept that not just white people can have prejudice. As a matter of fact i believe white people will be over the whole color thing much sooner than anyone else, because frankly we are sick of it.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew D

      Now that's what I call denial. Too funny, sad but true!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • BruntLIVE

      Whites are hardly sick of it, they hide it better.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • s~

        Got news for ya. That's what being anti-racist is... hiding your prejudice and racism.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  69. James

    And who is more likely to get a scholarship ... a poor white male or a poor minority male. The minority male is more likely to get a scholarship. The author doesn't seem to bring that up. I agree that post racial is a bad term but we don't live in a world where two generations (X and Y) of people can be held responsible for the actions of a previous generation. Although that the minority generation is worse off right now... its up to them to pull themselves up. I could reach into my wallet and give them all my money and that won't change a thing. They need to recognize their situation and change it themselves and bring themselves up as a community.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • BruntLIVE

      You own James for your whiteness either check, cash or home invasion. You owe

      February 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • RFrazierSr

      James, get a grip dude. Yes, I will admit my two oldest did get scholarships to college. It had more to do with both were at the top of their respective classes in high school. By they way they both came out of college in the top of their respective classes. So do not for one moment claim that all blacks or minorities are allowed into college because of race. Unfortunately some Universities still use that as tool for making their campuses have a little more diversity. Could that be that they too are mandated to do so? Could it be their futile attempt to balance out where minorities were denied access to higher learning for the previous 450 years of this country? If all in this country were driven by a persons undeniable right to something because they earned it.... there would be a lot of people out of work because they didn't deserve to be there. And trust me they wouldn't all be minorities. There would be many in elite positions that they didn't deserve out of work. So while there is a problem, there was an attempt to do something about the desparity. Our biggest issue with policies and laws in this country is they were created at a different time, when the obsticles the country faced as a whole were different. As a culture we have a tendency to put a weld on a problem that with pressure is going to break again sooner or later. Even though we realize that the issue is that pipe will need to be and should be replaced.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  70. jb

    Tim Wise is a professional anti-racist who is on record as eagerly waiting for the older generation of white Americans to die so that younger non-whites can take over. (Google it - you'll see what I'm referring to). He is a nasty piece of work, and I absolutely wouldn't believe a word he has to say on race relations in America. CNN should not be giving an extremist like him a platform.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Jon

    Sure, the whole "post-racial" thing is stupid. But are we better than we were 20 years ago? I'd like to think so.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Matt

    I don't quite understand where we're going in this country. Seriously, everything can somehow and some way be considered racist or bigoted or ethnocentric, etc. I'm white, I didn't get hired because the person interviewing me is black...no, its because I wasn't qualified, or I couldn't verbally express myself. Is this the hiring manager's fault, or mine? Why do we need college funds and schools solely dedicated to specific races? The more that we separate ourselves by hyphens and racial and ethnic boundaries the greater chance there is of an even deeper divide amongst people.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  73. I See What You Did There..

    Psh. Just check the comment thread on any Fox News article involving a black person and ask again if we are post racial...

    February 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Uniquitous

    Annoying to read this. Yes racism still happens. We have not bred it out entirely. However, to keep pushing it to the front of news is part of the problem. You point to issues where blacks are pulled over more often. This is a geography lesson, not a race lesson. Stop being in high crime areas, you will get pulled over less often. The author talks about earnings of immigrants based on color, despite same production and ability, he also never mentions geography on that. People (regardless of color) that work in Connecticut make more than people that work in Michigan. People that work in NYC make more than those in South Dakota. Its not racist for that fact, its socioeconomic factors. Higher cost of living necessitates higher wages, period. I am not saying the author is invalid on all claims, he is not. I am saying, you can use the exact same data to explain both sides of an issue. Need help understanding that? take a high school debate class or talk to a politician or a mid level sales manager struggling to keep their job in a down economy. Its easy to paint the picture both ways, the question is what is it that you want to see? and more importantly, why?

    February 1, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  75. thermalrider

    I am a white, over 50, college educated, upper middle class guy, who was born into a lower working-class family. I see racism all around me. I have relatives who assume that blacks are inherently drug-addicted, non-working, violent low-lifes. I hear folks make racist comments regularly. Racism is still quite prevalent. If you think otherwise, you are living in some sort of alternate reality.

    That said, (and as I've been chastised by minorities for pointing out) It is far far better now than when I was a child in the late 50s and early 60s. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in some sort of alternate reality.

    Perhaps the nicest person ever met was a 6 foot 6 inch (at least) black man. And he was significantly smarter than average too. I have been assaulted exactly once as an adult. By a blond-haired, white 20 something drug-dealer.

    As I am fond of saying: A**holes come in all colors. So do heroes.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Plug1

    How can we be post-racial when people of color continue to be so disproportionately targeted by our nation’s KKK, society.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Jason

    I'm white and I don't know anyone that really believes we live in a post-racial society. The only time I hear that word is in the media. But the real reason I'm posting is because I cannot stand when someone says something and links it to an article to make a point when the article they reference is saying something completely different. The article he mentions about the food stamp president says at the end of the article that Newt's claim may have merit because of how much Obama has spent on these types of programs. And the article Tim references about students "should be made to clean their own schools" is a jobs program! The students can get paid to clear their own schools. That is a brilliant idea. Tim, you should be ashamed of yourself.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • beansht

      And why are you saying this? Is it because Tim, a white person is trying to stand up and say it's wrong. You need to go back to your trailer buddy. Like that?

      February 1, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Big B

      Jason, you're neglecting to mention what else Newt said. He said poor people don't work nor do they want to. That is where his statement is offensive. Nothing could be further from the truth, I know many people who live in Public Housing who have a job and are in college. Depending how you look at the situation you can say I was poor growing up. Guess what – I've had a job since I was 14. I wonder if Newt can say the same about his kids.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  78. ronbileet

    The article has nothing to do with facts (but everything to do with an inaccurate interpretation of facts) and 100% to do with his opinion and personality. This is simple diarrhea coming from Tim Wise's mouth. I'm surprised CNN would agree to let an unintelligent argument, written in this baseless manner, be published on the CNN site. Simply crap and everyone, whether you disagree or not, know that some of his claims may be true about "numbers", but his interpretation of the numbers and what they signify, is absurd, and a far leap from reality! What a Neanderthal!

    February 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Skeeve

      Any proof of that? or is it just a word diarrhea that's coming out of your mouth? May I ask how is yours better? If you are unable to provide a coherent alternative interpretation don't bother to post

      February 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Dave

    How can anyone speak about race? If anyone is ever critical of President Obama they are declared racist.

    How can "food stamp President" be racist when there are more white people on food stamps than any other group? Can't it simply be a bad thing that there are more people on food stamps than ever before?

    The term "racist" has been so devalued because it is used over political disagreements....

    February 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • TAK

      Because certain code words are meant to illicit stereotypes. So don't act all innocent by saying that "food stamp" is a race-neutral term. "Fried chicken" and "chrome rims" are also technically race-neutral but what do you think of when you hear them?

      February 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • MattC

        Fried Chicken and Chrome Rims? I generally think of a weekend of Gran Turismo 5. I guess that makes me a racist, cause only fat white kids think that way.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  80. Amy

    I'm black and I've discriminated against within the African American community and made fun of because I talk 'like a white person' and not like a ghetto lady. Isn't that racism too? Can't we just generalize the issue instead of making it pure black and white. Just teach people to be accepting no matter who you are, where you come from, or social status both WHITE and BLACK and LATINOS etc.. Equal treatment is not a one way street. There are places within the black communities people turn their noses up if they see a light skinned person. It works both ways. Look at yourself first before pointing fingers at someone else.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • ggrya2020@hotmail.com

      Amy you sound like a foul!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • RFrazierSr

        I agree with you. I head that growing up, my daughter heard it, my son heard it and recently a 12 year old boy was stabbed because of this same idiocy. While we may not like it, we may think it's wrong, it is what it is. This is White America. If we won't to succeed, have a good life or rather what is described as the American dream. We better get in the ball game with edcucating ourselves and arming ourselves with the tools needed. Maybe one day we will stop saying we're not black enough because we speak differently, dress differently or any other bogus reason.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  81. madamelaverite

    It’s amazing how clueless some of you people are. Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. Do some of you truly believe blacks are just bad people despite hundreds of years of slavery, colonial rule, Jim Crow and persistent racial discrimination in jobs, college admissions, and housing? Do some of you truly believe every black is just a jive talking hood rat with no work ethic or morals?

    I know a lot of you do. A lot of you don’t really see blacks or other people of color as actual PEOPLE let alone American. You think we aren’t doing as well not because the system is biased in favor of whites, but because we’re inferior to whites. I mean, wow, if only those n*s and ch* and sp* would get their lives together THEN we would respect them. THEN there wouldn’t be any racism and we could all just be people, like white folks.

    Pathetic. You know why this is a lie, right? When there wasn’t discrimination in their own communities, blacks did very well. The founded colleges of their own cranked out doctors and lawyers, etc. thrived in bustling towns of their own. What happened? Were blacks welcomed into the white world and respected? Oh no. Whites got JEALOUS and they wrecked those towns and they murdered people. Look up Rosewood, Fl (there’s even a movie about it). There were riots against blacks in Atlanta, GA (1906), Omaha, Nebraska, Chicago and Tulsa Oklahoma.

    Blacks and other people of color even when they reach the pinnacle of achievement in this land are still disrespected. Take our current President. When in your memory have you EVER seen someone stand up in senate chambers and call a president a liar to his face in front of the whole nation? NEVER. When have you ever seen a group of rabid psychos still insisting that he was born in Kenya even after he has released his brith certificate? NEVER.

    I have never seen such blatant disrespect of a president by those within the government. I’m not talking about radio hosts and comedians and tv commentators. We’re talking congressmen, senators, people who work under the man. If it isn’t racism, I don’t know what it is.

    So wake up white people. Face up to how racist this country is and your own prejudices. Stop trying to derail the conversation. This isn’t about how minorities are racist too, how slavery happened a long time ago, how blacks are broken and can’t be fixed. These are all diversions away from the problem that needs to be faced head on.

    White folks, nobody’s trying to make you “feel guilty.” You feeling guilty isn’t helping anything. Further more, if those of you saying you haven’t done anything, why do you feel guilty? Besides, your guilty feelings aren’t helping anything.

    What you need to do is listen to what’s wrong, and help us work out a way to fix it. You can start by understanding what racism really is and calling it out when you see it. You can start by getting to know some actual people of color instead of believing in the media creation of people of color, which shows us all in an incomplete and typically negative light.

    But first, you have to get real. We can’t fix it if you don’t face it.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      If you have never see a President "disrespected" like President Obama you must have been asleep during the Bush years.....

      February 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • ggrya2020@hotmail.com

        I'm Black Rich and payed tax on every dollar I earned GOD Bless the USA! I won't let anyone hold me back! I f you don't like me move out of my lane if you do may the seeds of my fruits from my tree bare you strong roots and great fruit!

        February 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Guru

        See again you are missing the point. GW Bush was disrespected by society and made the centerpiece of jokes never in congressional circles or on US soil in a public forum. Bush had a shoe thrown at him in Iraq I believe and personally Secret Service should have scorched that dudes bones with a bullet to the center of his head and two into his sternum. Bush was definitely disrespected and if I was there that guy would have been executed before he could even get his arm propped in a throwing motion because I respect the Office of the President the office is America the Greatest Country on the Earth and the Greatest Country known to man!!!!! I’m black and feel that strongly about America. Now, in terms of President Obama when have you ever seen anyone on the floor stand up and call POTUS a liar? Again say NEVER . First off POTUS had the right to arrest him and have escorted out of the house floor and charged with defamation of the Office. When has a Gov. ever met POTUS on the tarmac of Air Force One and commenced to yell at POTUS while placing their finger in the face of POTUS under certain security protection guidelines this could be seen as an aggressive gesture and she could’ve been arrested. So again when you have you ever seen it? NEVER...the list goes on and on. You don’t have to like Obama but you need to respect the Office which since Obama has been POTUS has been rendered mute. Why because he’s the first democrat or because he is Black?

        February 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • beansht

      Whites feel guilty because they KNOW it's wrong and it is happening in their work place daily. But minorities don't want whites to feel guilty, they just want them to give them more opportunities to prove that they are as much part of United States of America and as loyal if not more than any white person.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • glyder

      if "fix it" is a term for another government program,forget it.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • poopenheimer

      You wrote that entire piece of crap that I didn't even read just to make a Nile joke.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Guru

      I enjoyed your post. In an effort to chime in on the disrespect factor BEING LISTED ABOVE you forgot to point out when has a Governor ever felt comfortable to meet the POTUS on the tarmac of Air Force One and commence to putting her finger in his face as if he was her peer for all the world to see ? In a line from your post NEVER. I completely understand your post however majority of the whites on this blog don’t get it and never will because they will continue to respond with baseless claims of affirmative action or just as your other respondee diverted and said Bush was disrespected too. So again I enjoyed your post but these blogs show me the true white America what they really think of me when I walk into a Board Room. These blogs allow them to sit at work and voice their true feelings on black people and for that I thank them. Anyway, when I say I understood your post I TOTALLY AGREE IN FACT I OVERSTAND AS THEY USE TO SAY in the squalls of Europe...

      February 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      You do realize that Congressmen and Senators don't work "under the man" right" They are in a separate branch of the government. "He" is in the Executive Branch; they are in the Legislative Branch. It’s not like they are criticizing their boss or something. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve respect as the President of the United State, he does. Just clarifying that they don’t work for him…they are supposed to work for you.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • BobbyJ

      God bless you madamelaverite for telling it like it is. I'm a white guy in my mid fifties and agree wholeheartedly with everything in your post. I grew up in a southern inner city area where 80% of my highschool classmates were black and have seen the best and worst of both black and white culture. And have tried to live my life calling out racism where i see it, and have gone as far as being alienated by family members and lost jobs because of it. And I will be the first to testify that racism is alive as it ever was in American. Most whites have become more politically correct in the way they talk and have become more adept at hidding or disguising their racist feeling and some have even convinced themselves that they are not racist.

      And I too am constantly astounded by the amount of obvious disdain and disrespect that is shown to our president by people of power in our government and media. It is beyond disgusting and shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that no matter what he tries to accomplish or what his policies are all they can see is the color of his skn and it brings out their deep seated racism and disdain for black people. And when anybody tries to call them on it they claim your playing the "race card" or even claim that you are a racist for calling them a racist as if they exsist in some reverse bizzaro world where whites are the down trodden victims of systematic racism.

      February 1, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  82. sweet2th

    It's hard to expect whites to do more for blacks than blacks are willing to do for themselves. Some blacks are just as bad as whites when it comes to discriminating against blacks. This stems from pure ignorance but I think this needs to be discussed more. I don't even know if some of them know it. Because they are black they don't consider their actions against other blacks as rascist.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • beansht

      Totally agree, its not a white, black, Asian issue. It's understanding where each person is coming from and work with those individuals. Takes more work initially but we are not glossing the issue over either. This is the only way to confront the issue and solve it. A white person can never understand someone from Lynwood who has been convicted of murder and robbery. So don't try to understand, just analyse their background and understand how they became like this instead of passing judgement such as "Blacks are not willing to [you fill the blanks]". If you think this way, then you are generalizing people and it's not fair. Atlanta has the highest number of Black millionaires. Irvine comprised of Asian Americans has the highest median income compared to most white neighborhoods.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Brian C

    Quite possibly the dumbest article I've read on CNN. This sentence really stands out for its stupidity.

    "black teenage unemployment rates (now well over 40 percent) reflect only those black teens who are searching for jobs, and thus, by definition already have a solid work ethic, lacking only the opportunities to put that ethic into practice."

    So just because someone is looking for a job, that means they have a "solid work ethic"? What an absolute joke. Work ethic is defined by what you do once you actually HAVE a job. Looking for a job is easy. Showing up to work on time every single day and doing what your bosses want you to do is the hard part. That's where most of the chronically unemployed fall flat on their face. They simply aren't good workers.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      what about the rest of the article? All dumb too? What's the harm in admitting there is truth in both of your opinions? (Because it is...)

      February 1, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • beansht

      can you please go back to your trailer?

      February 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Bobby

    I look around and see rich white folks, rich black folks, rich Asains, rich Spanish folks. How did these folks do that? I look around and see very successful blacks, whites, Asains, and Spanish folks. How did they do that? I look around and see poor whites, blacks, Asains, and Spanish folks. Seems to me like some in every category. I have lived in several countries. None with more fair opportunities than this one. But also none that places so much emphasis on the color of skin or uses skin color to try and defend opportunity that all colors have achieved.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Brenda

    Yes thank you Tim Wise for stirring up more division in this country….we need more like you, let’s not try and work towards improving what we have and letting the past go. I’m sorry but I did not and nor did my parents nor grandparents own slaves or have I ever been taught to hate anyone that was different color skin than myself…and I keep getting punished. NO slavery was NOT right, but better really really look at your history. The slaves were sold by their own, and come on, what about the Chinese, how many were slaves and died building the railroad across America. I believe there were slaves of every nationality…the ones who were more powerful were able to sell those who weren’t, no matter what color. GET OVER IT!!!!!

    Col Allen West for President !!!!

    February 1, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • bannister

      Brenda – you need to get hip to the fact that Tim WIse is Jewish and creating racial division for political gain is a "Jewish Thang"

      February 1, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nadine

        As a Jewish-American I am so PROUD of our heritage in standing up for justice in this country and in other countries. As for political gain, I'm delighted to gain a little politically on small-minded reactionary racist trailer-trash like you. If only it was so simple, dooshbag.

        February 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • madamelaverite

      Denial, derailing, delusional. Typical, pathetic.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • TimG

      Brenda, it's not about punishing white people for being descended from slave owners, it's about trying to work towards a society where no one is at a disadvantage due to the color of their skin. There aren't any easy answers, but pretending the problem doesn't exist isn't going to make it go away.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Jim31

    The only people who are being discriminated are whites. Is it wrong to tell the truth about black people? Blacks have the highest incarceration rate percentage wise compared to the population ratio. Blacks have the lowest high school graduation rates. Colleges have to lower their admission standards to let them in. I majored in Computer Science in college and in the final year there was only 1 black person who remained, the rest flunked out. There were more students from Malaysia than blacks in my graduating class.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kzaine

      Whoa now, hold your horses. You mean to tell me they lower the requirements to let minorities into college? That sounds about as ridiculous as having a quota for ethnic diversity in the work place, I mean get real guy.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  87. LouAz

    "The ability to think differently today from yesterday distinguishes the wise man from the stubborn.” – John Steinbeck

    We as a Country are slowly getting better at what we, and no other Country, has tried to do. But Jim Crow has still not died. We seem to ignore what is common in all of us and concentrate on our differences no matter what the historical reasons for those differences.

    Let's keep at it . . . we, the Citizens of the United States of America.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Randy

    How long is this going to go on please quit playing the card.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      Until you acknowledge that the truth in it... Ummm...that's kinda the point of the article.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • humanbean

        Brandon, my wife came here from Eastern Europe with nothing but a lottery visa. She put herself through college, followed up with a masters degree, and now she has a job with a bunch of southerners who "discriminate" against her because she doesn't talk like they do. She makes over 100k a year, and keeps plugging away. She made it, and so have many others. Stop making excuses! The opportunities are out there. You just have to want to work hard to get them. This article is trash!

        February 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nadine

      "play the card." Ah, right-wing radio thinkspeak. That bag of potato chips people like you keep putting in your mouth to keep you from eating anything but junk food.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kzaine

      Until white people admit that racism is still alive and booming. Until white people make the effort to actually allow true equal opportunity, in which the right man for the job gets the job, regardless of his/her's skin color. Until African Americans are no longer specifically targeted by law enforcement because of ridiculous stereotypes. Until I feel comfortable in my home, in my own skin.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  89. rex

    So let me get this straight, you decided to devote your entire life to writing about race? Of course you concluded we do not live a post racial world, you would be out a job and no one would buy your books. What is the liberal obsession with race? Where is Bill Cosby when you need him....

    February 1, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  90. KJC

    Thank you for this opinion! From the comments on the article I read yesterday, I thought I was the only white person who still sees that racism is an issue in our country. Apparently, there is at least one other person, and he spoke up by writing this piece.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  91. ManWithThe1000PoundBrain

    Yeah, we elected a "black" president (although he is not a dark skinned black, he is actually mulatto). And there are people that have a seething hatred for him BECAUSE he is different. They will make excuses and say he is not really a citizen or that he is a muslim, neither of which is true (and it shouldn't matter if he were a muslim anyway. Shaq is a muslim, so what?). But people hate him. Some elements of the tea party were clearly motivated by racism. If you don't think there is still racism or that people are in denial about it then just read some of the comments people have posted here.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • DCTexan

      Can't you see that assuming (without further evidence) that people who dislike Obama's universal healthcare plan oppose it only because of his skin color is the very definition of racial prejudice. If do you not have any mirrors in your own house?!?!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • KJC

        In what way did the above comment reference health care? Your comment makes no sense. Yes, many people just dislike Obama's policies, with every right to do so. ALSO, some people dislike him because of his skin color. These are not mutually exclusive possibilities.

        February 1, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • TAK

        DCTexan, We cannot understand how a rational human being can be opposed to basic health care for all. Therefore we can only conclude that your opposition to the President is racial. In our view the only alternative is that your opposition is based on stupidity and/or callousness. So you see, by calling you racist we are being charitable.

        February 1, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jamal

      Glad to see the media can still fall back on this type of story. Anyone who takes this seriously is a fool.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jamal

      P.S. I have never been a fan of "Shaq".

      February 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
  92. lysander

    Racism is racism. I'm tired that it's somehow defined by "white people vs everyone". I've been beat up by other humans based solely on being white where I grew up but when I bring that up, it's almost laughed at as though that's impossible.

    Its just as racist to assume that I've lived a privileged life soley on the color of my skin as it is to assume the same for another race.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • brent

      +1... very well said.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  93. PeteInOhio

    this is an opinion piece, of which he is allowed to have. However, the author needs to provide sources for the statistics and also discuss contributing factors for why the problems still exist - not just pointing blame at whites.

    I am not a complete knucklehead and realize that there are still racist white people. However, affected folks also have things needing addressed.

    Businesses in America are about making money and for the most part, do not care who works for them so long as they can help drive up revenues and postively impact to P/L.

    Most senior management in the majority of businesses recognize their customer-base is made up of a cross-section of our citizens from all walks of life and to encourage their managers to hire across the spectrum so that the work-force reflects the customer base.

    Bottom line, it usually comes down to individuals causing the problems. Stop writing broad-brush articles blaming everyone and let's hone in on the knuckleheads on both sides of the equation

    February 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • KJC

      He did provide sources by linking to the articles from which he got the information. Try clicking the words in blue.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • PoBoy

      I would love to believe that your statements are true, however, I have seen too many incidents of hiring by race and businesses not wanting to serve all segments of the community (yes in the 21st century) to believe what you say. And quite frankly, it goes both ways, because there are black, Asian and hispanic business owners who only hire their own to the maximum extent possible. This didn't start in America, and it's certainly not going to end here, but the fact is, it's human nature and it exists.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • RFrazierSr

        The problem of bigortry, racism will unfortunately never go away. Too many use it as an excuse to say they are better than another or to comfort their own failing ego. The problem with Black America is a deeply seeded one. One that is as old as this country. What's going to always make any comments seem bias is the fact is usually it will come from someone that is on the outside looking in. They think they know the problem, they think because they are alright that their way is the way everyone should be. If it weren't for disagreements, different vision, many inventions, products would not be here. We should welcome differences.

        But here is a thought, most cultures in this country know of their culture, their background, religious beliefs, and heritage. Black American's (most) are the only culture/race that have had their language, religious beliefs, culture, family torn from them and denied to them, beat out of them. All most of us know is that at some point in our leinage we did come from Africa. In my opinion it has left many of us confused as to what our heritage and culture truly are. In doing so many our children have taken false claims to false images of what being "Black" is. I don't believe in making excuses because I made it through my parents guidance. Both of whom were born into a deeply racially divided country. However we do need to accept the facts. Whatever they might be and as one comment I read earlier stated..."we" have to do better within. One of the best pieces of advice my father gave me is never stop striving, never stop reaching for goals. No matter what is written, what is said, each of us as an individual must take responsibility for ourselves and do something about the situation.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
  94. divinecovenant

    CNN needs to find better people to publish op-eds on their website. Not only is this guy claims grossly exaggerated, he also skews the findings of the one journal he cites, and most erroneous, he seems to define racism only in economic/social stratification terms. I personally think that racism is not as big of an issue as it was. It's far from perfect, but there are some realities that need to be dealt with. Lastly, he provides no recent, or more reliable evidence at all for his "disproportionate drug targeting"

    I've known many law enforcement officers in my life and their stories are the same. Despite what Tim Wise wants you to believe, the harsh reality is that a larger number of blacks and hispanics are incarcerated for drug crimes simply because of their economic situation. Of course whites too are subject to this if they live in a low income neighborhood. All peoples of a low income status are more likely to commit crime. That's the reality. That does NOT make our law enforcement officers racist and it does not make our country racist as Wise seems to imply. And when I say "more likely" I mean that there is a statistically higher chance of it occurring. That does NOT mean that just cause a person is poor that they are criminal, far from it. I was poor too at one point

    February 1, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • PoBoy

      Low income people may be more likely to commit crimes, but they are also more likely to be jailed for them as opposed to more affluent, usually white people. The reasons are varied but the evidence points to 2 things; (1) affluent people receiving considerably better treatment by the courts because they can pay for more justice, and (2) the courts regarding minorities and the poor as less valuable than others.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pablo

      I'm assuming that when he is referring to these drug laws he is talking about the higher likelihood of conviction, laws such as the crack cocaine/powder cocaine laws which penalize harder those who possess crack (which due to socio-economic reasons is found in mostly black communities due to its cost vs. powder), and the overall high population of blacks in jail for a variety of reasons. These are all social facts which are backed up by data, he just did a poor job of proving this, partially due to this being an extremely short op-ed instead of an essay.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Dave, CA

    if people think there isn't blatant racism in the GOP- just visit any comment board like CNN or worse -yahoo and read some of the trash posted there.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nadine

      Absolutely true. And unbelievably nasty things about Jews, Muslims, women (!) and Latinos as well. I don't really listen to anything a politician who calls himself a "Republican" says, because the underlying message is always "vote for me because I'm a white male christian like you and I'll exterminate whomever I can who isn't."

      February 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stephen

      What's that got to do with the GOP? CNN is frequented by mainly liberals... To be honest, I have met a heck of a lot higher percentage of blacks who are outwardly racist against whites than I have EVER met the other way around. I think that a huge part of the issue right now is that many white people are simply tired of being called racist when they have never done a racist thing in their life. They are simply called racist because they are white and its easier to call them racist than to look inside and realize that maybe the person who is doing the name calling is simply looking for an excuse for their own failures other than their own lack of initiative and drive...

      February 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Look deeper

        Likely the reason you meet more blacks who you perceive as racist against whites is because you yourself likely share the same racist views as the whites you encounter, therefore you don't view their actions/words as racist. It's quite simple, birds of a feather flock together. The article lists several sources which compelled the author, read them.

        February 1, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Katzen

      If you think theyre bad go to youtube

      February 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Mac Lorry

    Tim Wise may have published books on the subject, but his ignorance makes him part of the problem rather than part of the solution. Every culture of any historical significance has practiced both war and slavery. You only need to read the Bible to lean how widespread slavery was even without any Whites involved. The first step to banishing racism is to understand that if flows from human nature, that in primitive cultures survival depends on knowing to what family, group, or tribe you belong, which means knowing who doesn't belong. Because racism flows from our inborn survival instincts it doesn't need to be taught as it will arise from ignorance alone. Without such basic understanding men like Tim Wise assign evil to anyone practicing racism and seek to castigate rather than educate. That wrong medicine feeds the problem rather than cures it.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • kenny

      I know i shouldn't try arguing with someone that uses the bible as a source for history... so i guess i won't bother...

      February 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ashling Hoffman

      Wow I cannot believe you are using survival of the fittest to justify racism...that statement is inherently flawed...because it presupposes that race should be used as to determine which group is and which is not the 'FITTEST' group. That is absurd. It is not human nature to use RACE to distinguish between groups that is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT...human nature dictates that we use factors like, physical strength etc...NOT RACE...

      February 1, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  97. More2it

    The author wrote, "To me, “post-racial” is little more than a nonsense term devised by people (mostly white, frankly)" Ah yes, yet another racist story about the evil white man. Racism occurs in ALL ethnicities. Caucasians do not own the market on racism. We are divided or categorized by race. Take a look at some of our government associations or organizations. Congressional Black Caucus, Association of Black Lawyers, Association of Black Women Attorneys, The Black Police Association, National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives, Black Shield Police Association, etc. Also the National Latino Peace Officers Association, Hispanic Police Officers Association, Hispanic National Law Enforcement Association, etc. This article indicates that the "post-racial" statement was somehow created by white people (yet has no proof) and then presents as evidence everything anti white. Take your guilt trip some where else, Mr. Wise.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • brent

      i'm glad someone had the guts to say it!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nadine

      You're vastly oversimplifying. Albert Einstein: "If my theory of relativity is proven correct, Germany will claim me as a German and France will declare that I am a citizen of the world. Should my theory prove untrue, France will say that I am a German and Germany will declare that I am a Jew."

      February 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stephen

      Exactly! Don't expect the majority to wrap their arms around you and welcome you to their world when you are doing everything in your power to separate yourself. I hear screams of racism all the time but when I look I see separation everywhere. If you want to integrate then integrate but what you are actually looking for is separate but equal.

      Because the way that I see it. There is no difference between creating a separate organization like the NAACP and there being separate water fountains. Except that one was created by whites and one was created by blacks which somehow means one is more "separatist and racist" than the other. Bullcrap...

      February 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  98. DCTexan

    Explaining that some of us really are beyond caring about "race" is like trying to explain the color red to someone who has only ever seen in black and white. There are a lot of us who really only care about the content of one's character and not the color of one's skin. Come join us!

    February 1, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • TimG

      It's all well and good to say you don't care about a person's race, but it's another thing for someone to pretend that racial inequalities don't exist in our society. That's what the article is trying to address. If we can't admit there's still a problem, it's not going to get any better.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  99. urmomlol

    This just in: sanctimonious, self-loathing white liberal seeks answers to various and complex sociological issues; attributes every single one to racism. Tune in later for more shocking news!

    Oh my, six whole books on race, was it? I guess to the baby with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Then again, in a "post-racial" society, one-trick ponies like Tim Wise would have to look for a new job.

    February 1, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave, CA

      This just in: pompous, self-important, white conservative m o r o n posts ignorant pompous anti-liberal comment; no one is shocked. Tune in later for more unsurprising news!

      February 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Brenda

        Love the way the Progressive Libs are always saying those mean ole conservatives, but look who’s doing the name calling…as usual LOL , dude you bore me go smoke another one

        February 1, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nadine

        Bravo, Dave! How predictable these reactionaries are.

        February 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • urmomlol

        umadbro?

        February 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • You can call me ray

      excellent post. this is one that cuts like a knife

      February 1, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      You hit the nail on the head. For a Marxist everything would be a class issue. For a theist, everything is a moral issue. For a feminist, gender. What's his next book going to be about? People typically hate change, so of course this mule is kicking, he doesn't want to have to stay relevant.

      February 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  100. Mojo Jack

    Whats funny is that campaigns and articles that are supposed to be anti-racist always tend to be racist.

    Assuming the people behind the tinted windows in the buildings of hiring companies are all white before you see them isn't any better than people assuming that a car that a cop is about to pull over are all non-whites. When you fill out a form for race and have to check a box, if you check anything but "other" you only contribute to segregation and inequality by identifying with 1 shade of the politically correct color palette. There should be 1 check box labeled "American".

    February 1, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ecatarina G.

      Smartest thing I've read on this feed Mojo.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • PoBoy

      (1) You don't have to check the race box for an employer to figure out your race. (2) Police can see into your vehicle before they pull you over and determine your race, (3) if you're a minority you almost always assume that the person behind the tinted windows is white, because the odds are very high that they are.

      February 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
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