By the CNN Wire Staff
(CNN) - Net Mexican immigration to the United States has slowed to a standstill, according to a report released Monday.
The number of immigrants coming from Mexico to the United States has steeply declined while the number of Mexicans leaving the United States has increased sharply, the Pew Hispanic Center said.
"These developments represent a notable reversal of the historic pattern of Mexican immigration to the U.S., which has risen dramatically over the past four decades," the center's report says.
Many factors are probably behind the trend, the report said, including rising deportations, greater enforcement at the border, growing dangers associated with border crossings, the weakened U.S. job market and a long-term decline in Mexico's birth rates.
The 1.37 million Mexican immigrants who came to the United States between 2005 and 2010 was about half the number who immigrated during previous five-year periods, according to the analysis, which was based on national population surveys in the United States and Mexico.
Meanwhile, from 2005 to 2010, 1.39 million Mexicans and their families left the U.S. to return to Mexico, the report says. That's more than double the number of people who did it during a five-year period the decade before, the report says.
The report also notes, citing figures from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, that the number of Mexicans apprehended trying to cross the border illegally has plummeted in recent years, from more than 1 million in 2005 to 286,000 in 2011.
While analysts said for years that immigration from Mexico to the United States was dwindling, the Pew report says 2010 Mexican census data offer some of the first "hard evidence that flows back to Mexico had grown over the same period."
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I'm a Mexican and I'm still here! Woohoo!
Are you legal?
I'm legal, I'm Mexican, and will always stand up for my ppl....
If you're a legal American and contribute to our society by paying your taxes then good for you...If you are illegal then please go back to your country...
It's President Obama's fault! No wait...repubs want more to leave so this is a good thing...switch that. It's umm because...um let's see...President Obama has had more deportations, especially of violent offenders, than any President in a few decades...but repubs hate that fact and now more are leaving....how can we blame President Obama for doing something he said he would do???
What Conservative president has ever done anything about illegal immigration?
Nada – who would look after his/her spoiled brats, clean the toilets, cut the grass, cook the food.......
Hurray the Republicans finally won by making our country so horrible that even people from Mexico don't wanna come here. Although I should probably give some credit to Democrats too, as they like to ruin our country too and are just not as good at it.
I have been thinking the same thing.
This farm deal that has always been used to justify the Mexican influx is bull. I just retired early. I live in a rural area where they use Mexicans as laborers...I would be happy to go back to work on one of these farms for $15 an hour...They did a study about how much food prices would really increase if Americans were employed...It was less than a 10 percent increase. This whole Mexican thing is the fault of the farmers and ranchers who just wanted cheap labor and because they were mostly Republican they got what they wanted as it also made the manufacturers that we used to have here happy as well to have these workers here. Nothing against Mexicans as most I've met I like and were hard working but there's NO reason that they should have ever been allowed to violate our borders and fill our schools with their kids and "anchor" babies like has happened. We need to enforce all immigration laws and do citizenship verification by all employers. Mexicans need to go back to their country and solve their problems in their country. We have enough problems here and adding more people to our welfare/foodstamps/school systems is NOT going to help us and you'll be paying a whole lot more for that cheap head of lettuce than you think.
Why is it that only Mexicans get blamed for the immigration problem? I have friends that are here from Poland and Italy and they overstayed their visas 15 years ago and are still here and doing just fine. Just saying... Mexicans are always the scapegoat when it comes to the illegal issue....
Scot, let's do some basic math....you foolishly believe that you're getting a deal on fruits and veggies....because some mexican is picking them, and an American won't. Well, obviously you're not a taxpayer. In states where the mexican illegal population is high, there's far higher crime rates, there are high unpaid for birth rates, more schools need to be built, more govt facilities are needed...why? Because the mexicans are sponging off the government...so, in essence, if you think about it, a $1 tomato is probably costing you far more than you think.....besides, the 3rd world mentality brings down property values...they don't want to learn english...in a sense, they want to take what you have, not just get a job. It's an invasion, and they'll take over because of ignorant mindsets like yours.
most of the ilegal aliens work, or used to work with a false social security number in order to get paid on the jobs, must of the work they do is not paid in cash but by a paycheck. The goverment do collect taxes of every paycheck. Illegal aliens cannot claim that money back because of course, the ssn does not exist.
The goverment keeps that money and there are millions. Do your research. If all illegal aliens are deported the deficit on the Social security is gonna be a lot worst.
God did not create the borders, but a few horrible battles did! Can you blame these people for wanting a better life for their families? Would you not do ANYTHING to ensure that your family had the basic necessities?
Yet you provide no sources for your numbers. Typical stupidity.
America is a mean-spirited and greedy nation of obese and illiterate dimwits that stole Mexico by the use of force, all the while purporting itself to be "pro-life" and "Christian."
Laughable.
Truly.
So you Matt are the judge of everyone yourself? Huh! Chill dude. You don't know what he meant.
Best news I've ever heard in a LONG time.
I'm with you pal. they hate us anyway. I should know, i'm a minority in my Brooklyn NY neighborhood which has been transformed in the 14 years I've lived there. I went into a Mexican restaurant once, they all stared at me, the waiter came over and said "the bagel store is right over there". another time I went into an arab owned deli to order eggs on a roll for breakfast and a mexican said to his pal the mexican griddle guy "que qieres la chinga?" (nasty word). I was ignored the few times I went into mexican owned grocery stores. in the meantime my freaking taxes pay for their endless babies and food stamps. Get lost. We don't want you UNLESS YOU'RE LEGAL which none of them are.
And therein lies the real truth...All people are "racist" to a certain extent...It's just that in our country it has become OK to demonize WHITE people and to call them racists and the fault of everything...That's OK...It's POLITICALLY CORRECT...Meanwhile just make sure that no matter what a minority does you exclaim how WONDERFUL it is and how rich their culture is and how wonderful it is they are part of our society and that if they do any wrong it's because WHITE PEOPLE have supressed them and have forced them to behave like this...Just watch CNN...They'll tell you exactly that...CNN really stinks now...
Someone clue me in how is stopping illegal immigrants at the boarder being racist? I think Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) stop allot of illegal immigrants, to include all races trying to get in to the United States. It just happens that 3/4 of humans crossing the border are South American and there not all from Mexico. That does not account for the Chinese, Cubans, Africans, Filipinos, and the list goes on. So someone please explain to me how is stopping all humans regardless of their sink color at the boarder racist? It seems to me like the CBP is anything but racist they arrest anyone that is illegal.
Scot, we can start forcing the welfare folks to do these jobs. If they don't like it, they can starve.
Well "truth", are you going to babysit their kids so they can work? Plus, "welfare" ended in 1996! My sister gets TANF benefits which are a whopping 400.00/month to cover all expenses, and has to either volunteer 96 hours a month in the community or go to school full time. There is truly no longer a "free ride" in America anymore unless you are disabled!
Remember, before you say something stupid, that legal immigration is GOOD for America. Illegal immigration is BAD for America. Try not to confuse the two.
I'm not sure if it's "bad" for America. It keeps much of our economy running and products cheap. Granted, I think it's bad for the immigrants. But, you have to understand that most of them leave their country in search of work because their local economics have been ravished by free trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA. I just spent a few months in Latin America and let me tell you, they find nothing attractive about the U.S. outside of employment. If we want illegal immigration to rapidly slow, we have to address policy and economics, not build some wall. That won't work. People will always find a way around.
Well said john borg... thank you!
You forgot the other liberal taking point " they do the jobs that no one else wants to do".
johnborg, have you ever heard about laws? Illegal immigration is BAD because is against the law here and every where in the world. Why is Mexico not letting illegal from Central America to live there?
if they don't find anything attractive about America they are nuts. I'm an American citizen from the Caribbean living in the states for 17 years now and man, I hate the current world economy but I love living in this country and my American friends!
Amen brotha.
We need to put a HALT on ALL IMMIGRATION right now. And that is not a "racist" statement. We don't need to add any more people to our country right now...300,000,000+ people is sufficient until we can sort out our economy and other problems. And I mean ALL IMMIGRATION STOPPED...That includes the IRISH and other protected nationalities...Put a HALT to it now until we can get our economy fixed and the other problems like Social Security and Medicare fixed first.
Oh yes just completely shut down all immigration in to this country... what world are you living in? First of all, that's never going to happen so you might as well get that notion out of your head. Secondly, if I recall correctly this country was FOUNDED by immigrants. Unless you are a Native American, that means YOU ARE DESCENDED FROM IMMIGRANTS. Wouldn't shutting off all immigration be just a tad hypocritical?
NO it would not...Yes...That is the standard response.."Our Nation was found by immigrants"....
And that was when our nation was new and needed people to fill jobs and help us expand...
Our Nation is no longer new nor expanding...Don't use that old cliche as if we don't continue to leave
the floodgates open that we will somehow wither up....We have a dwindling job market. The jobs
that go are usually high paying jobs that are only ever mostly replaced with much lower paying jobs.
We certainly don't need ANY more immigrants right now and I mean that for ALL ETHNICITIEs...Hey and
if it helps you with that I'm DANISH...So I am the first to BAN ALL DANISH IMMIGRANTS...OK with that?
Stop falling for that "nation of immigrants" crap. NOBODY from My family immigrated to this country, thus it is NOT a nation of immigrants.
Our immigration system is BROKEN. Our current laws are complex, confusing, and virtually impossible to implement. I know of many Hispanic immigrants who have been living in the USA for over ten years, working, paying taxes, and there is no effective way for them to become legal or citizens. If you think they don't pay taxes, remember that the SALES TAX is by far the largest tax on low-income people, and everyone pays the sales tax. Low-income citizens usually get huge Tax Rebates that are far in excess of what they ever paid in, so the illegal immigrants effectively pay HIGHER taxes. We need the immigrants to be in the Social Security system, because they are mostly young workers who will pay for the baby boomers who are now retiring.
Now that the Arizona law is going before the Supreme Court, the Liberals in the Media are all running stories about how Illegal Immigration is going down and is no longer a problem. This is a PR stunt trying to sway public opinion in favor of killing the AZ law.
There are more Illegals from Mexico than Legals from Mexico in this country. The truth is the Federal Gov't does not protect the borders. How can 30-40 million people Illegally enter our country and the Gov't says it's protecting the borders ??
THank you.
YESS!!! Budget deficit reduction happening right before our very eyes. Never thought I'd live to see the day
Wonderful idea! Get violent when someone isn't up to your standards. You sound P.T.V. dude.
Romney was right. Self deportation is possible if the government makes getting employment impossible through e verify and prosecution of employers who hire illegals.
Which is exactly what the current administration has been doing for the past three years...in addition to deporting the actual criminal element.
Yeah sure...in addition to running untraceable guns into Mexico that wind up killing border patrol agents. Nice try Frank.
how many employers has Obama put in jail for hiring illegals?
It is not because of the policies the current President has laid out, it is because of the economy and Americans having had enough. Those are here illegally now know that their chance for employment is far worse than the Millions of American citizens looking for work.
You really have no idea what Mexico is like, do you?
This is one of the big problems with allowing illegal immigration. They soak up a lot of resources and when things turn bad have nothing tying them to stay and make things better again. Think about it, you are talking about people who take no pride in making things better in their own country, so they go somewhere else. What do you think is going to happen when things turn bad for them here? Why stay?
Agreed.
Whats worse a illegal immigrant that works and shops at stores, restaurants and etc to survive....or some white person living off of welfare and (fake) disability. Most immigrants get paid less then minimum wage....how many resources do you think they are actually taking up. It cost more money to keep a person in prison every year then the cost to have working illegal and working immigrants. Hope you feel educated now. Racist.
It's not rascist if one is speaking of legal vs illegal immigration.
But the argument is not about immigrants....they are focusing on Mexicans...it is funny when we talk about illegal immigration we tend to only look at one group of people....albeit one of the larger groups....When people say things like this it shows their ignorance to the poverty and suffering of even their neighbors. You think you have the right because you born in a country to exploit those in other countries and then complain when they do the same in yours. How can you not see the ethnocentric and racist nature of this?
Tell me where in Mike's statement where he used the word "Mexican". As far as I saw his statement refers to anyone who slips under the "fence" to pluck ripe fruits off a well yielding tree(I understand the analogy is riddled with stereotypes but they were not intended) then slips back to their home as soon as soon as the tree is depleted. It is one thing to have guests to your house for dinner, it is another thing to have someone break into your house.
Whats worse a illegal immigrant that works and shops at stores, restaurants and etc to survive....or some white person living off of welfare and (fake) disability. Most immigrants get paid less then minimum wage....how many resources do you think they are actually taking up. It cost more money to keep a person in prison every year then the cost to have working illegal and working immigrants. Hope you feel educated now.
thats apples and oranges. yes we have too many prisons, it costs more to house a prisoner then put a person thru college, but still it costs the american taxpayer to have an illegal here and americans are out of work and can do and will do the work,illegals go home and stay home, close the borders.
What about the Europeons that fly here and overstay their visa? what about all the Arabs that are coming here and again over staying their visas? Why is it always that people refer only to Mexicans who are supposedly here illegally?
Define "pennies", I had held several positions with first generation immigrants(legal and illegal) and every single person that I worked with started with the same California minimum wages. Granted my experiences are not all encompassing, it certainly is ignorant to imply that all illegal immigrants live in squalor.
I like you FoodZealot, you clearly are intelligent and worth a good debate. I feel I may not have made myself clear however. I feel it may be worth clarifying that when I said "I had held several positions with first generation immigrants" I had the same same job, pay, and I was close in age to the other employees.
I was told years ago in the 1990's that a dollar earned here in the U.S. was worth about 8 times as much in Mexico..The Mexicans workers here, would send money back to Mexico for their family..and it would be like sending 8 times as much...These people can find jobs in the U.S. after the election, and will probably return depending on how our companies and employers are...as long as Americans will hire them, and they have a chance to stay, people help them stay..they will find work in the U.S....Just look at Tyson foods, they advertise for American meat processing jobs in Mexico, and in Spanish...
Although we certainly need immigration control...we should look at Mexicans as friends and allies. We share a very long border with them, and it's a border that we determined.
Well they did sign a treaty AND later sell more land to us.
Many Mexican gangs in Mexico, and the southwest U.S., find new members, by telling them they will place their people all across the border, arm them, and someday take back what was once the Mexican Lands from the U.S.....
I have some wonderful ocean front property in Iowa for sale to folks that believe this article.
This is the best artical I have read in years. What do we need to do to get a flood of them jumping back over the fence?
I don't care if Juan won't be there for my yard.
Sweet. Can't wait for the economy to pick back up.
Really ? You are dreaming !
Oh come on man, it's just a joke. No one has a sense of humor anymore.
This is the natural history of civilization. 50 years from now we may be the ones walking into Mexico. You never know. By the way, have you seen the movie "A day without a Mexican" ? Watch it and come back to comment.
This must all be because that lousy Obama has made it such a safe-haven for illegals here. You know that crazy Obama and his illegal loving ways. It's made them all want to stay. We need to vote Republican so we can make sure they...all want to stay....whatever, I can't keep up with this idiocy.
You do have to understand that the Republicans do want them to stay. Who else would they be able to hire as housekeepers and gardeners? If they hired white or black they would have to pay a decent salary, but hire the mexicans they can give them a dollar an hour and hold the threat of deportation over their head.
So whats going to happen to a good number of engineers/IT professionals/doctors and nurses if Muslim immigrants leave? Do you think White bread Bubba from Arkansas has enough technical know how to replace them? Sending them back will accelerate an already existing brain drain...
Let's collapse our economy by funding bad wars and tax cuts for the rich...then even the Mexicans will want to leave! Maybe Americans will start sneaking into Mexico.
By all means! And let's also give away hundreds of billions of our tax payer's money in Medicaid, funding county hospitals for all the non-paying illegals, fund the expansion and extra teachers and books needed for 12 million illegal aliens' kids (probably 36 million of those) and continue giving them welfare and unemployment. Good idea! LOL
Chris, I work at a hospital and can tell you there are far more non-paying Americans than non-paying illegals. Even if people have good jobs, an ICU bed costs 10,000.00/day not including your meds, treatments, and the doctor bills. The average length of stay in ICU is about three days. Most people with no health insurance do not have that kind of money and will never be able to pay the bill.
Our country has been on a steady decline for the last 20 years. China and India have systematically eroded the human and intellectual capital of this country. They reduced the average American in a comatose state, dependent on cheap food, goods and entertainment. The school systems dishes out a product that's barely good enough to flip burgers and work in the mall..
I do not blame the Mexicans and other folks leaving this country .. They have a place to go back to .. what are the options for that kid down the block ?
The option is the simple American option: take personal responsibility and make sure your child learns. I do- I go over his homework, read with him, communicate with his teachers. If you don't you'll get what you deserve, the consequences of an uneducated, lazy kid. Your life is NOT up to someone else, for someone else to develop you or your children. Be an adult and take charge.
good for you.. now let's hope the crack mom two streets down does what you do ! ..
point here is, the writing is clear for everyone to see.
Really this is a headline now?
Tell this news to our politicians who blame everything on illegal immigration. They want to build a bigger fence, unfortunately the fence is being built by Mexicans. You don't think they have ways around it?
They're smart. They see the writing on the walls in this country. Failing economy that no one can or will fix. The government will economically collapse eventually. Internet and surveillance laws and actions and agencies spying on it's people in a way more hostile to freedom than any 3rd world dictator. No jobs and, well, no future. With DHS buying 450,000,000 rounds of ammunition and their FAST Program, look that up if you want to go down the rabbit hole (be prepared to be shocked when you watch the DHS made informational training video for FAST). We're living in a near police state only one more 9/11 event from total tyranny in this country. The government is trying as hard as possible to make every act or word against them a "terrorist" act for people to be "legally" whisked away under the NDAA. Sure, sure, I'm a conspiracy nut you say. But why do you say that? Could it be that everything you read, see, or hear has been teaching you to think the way you do? Our media has been rated 47th on the "Free Press Index" meaning there are 46 other countries that have a freer media with less government involvement than ours. Wake up, you're country is being taken right from under you, but hey, Adam Levin cut Pip last night on the Voice.
If they were so samrt, how come they drove their country into the ground?
They didn't run it to the ground, their government did it. The same way this government is doing it to this country. Don't blame the people blame the government... You are displacing the blame.
Here is a solution. Minimum wage for Americans would be $10 per hour and for Mexicans it would be the same as in their own country. That way, we could all profit from them instead of just the big companies.
The local car wash used to be overrun by Latinos. Now they're all gone... high-tailing it for easier pickings (pun intended) in liberal states that will pander to them.
I still get my car washed and detailed for a 20, the price hasn't gone up on tomatoes, and the workers ALL speak English, as it's their first language.
There goes your broken-record arguments of "who'll do the dirty work".
good riddance !
Thanks Obama!
Border?? ......... What border?? .......Darnn too bad, the Cartel in Mexico must be hiring more Drug Traffickers now I guess..
Anyone know a roofer or a lawn caretaker???
Thank goodness!!
"That's hysterical. Many americans have no clue what proper english is. So you go for it. And as far as all of those welfare collectors, you might want to do a little research to understand that the majority of the population on welfare are still ordinary white folk; you know, the Redneck Riviera? Trailer parks? And lots of good honest people who have worked all their lives whose jobs are gone. And will stay gone.
At least they are loyal.
This has to a bald faced lie as I see more and more where I live.
I used to live right next door to a safe house for them. No matter
how many times We would call immigration they would do nothing.
The place I lived made extra money by having a full huge family
and plus some. If I had done that I'd of been kicked out.
We have a packing house here that hires only illegals and everyday
they have a semi waiting in the back and a secret word every single
day of a the week that's changed so that in case immigration comes
they can hurry and rush them all out. The only American's they have
in the plant have been there for 20+ years.
I live in a small farming community though it's grown a ton since I
moved here 20 years ago. Most of the American's in town are
leaving because of all the illegals. So I wonder how they did
that so called number crunching when obviously they sure
didn't come here to check.
I say send them all back to never return if Your here illegally. No
second chances period. If You did it once You'll do it again.
Yes, because everything that happens in your town represents all of America.
What's sad is they probably still write better English than you.
You may wish to think about this a bit harder if that is possible. Those meat processing jobs? Those jobs are now listed as being some of the most dangerous in America. The wages have gone down, benefits have vanished, there are fewer inspectors – the Corporate Food Lobby is a powerful force in places like North Carolina, Kentucky and Iowa.....before you start harping about illegals perhaps start thinking as to what you are eating....you want change, stop eating processed garbage. Let your wallet speak for you instead of blaming those who are, like you, trying to eke out a living in a society that is increasingly treating its workers like an unlimited, easily replaced commodity.
THINK – PIENSA!!!!!!! Por favor?
Where did you family come from ? The TRUE AMERICANs probley kicked there ass too and said the same thing. Ever watched Gangs of New York ? Same ole same ole. They will come back with thier families and keep coming so be nice to them !
Why would the "Americans" leave because illegals move into the town? Doesn't make sense. More like the "Americans" can't work as hard for the same jobs.
I agree. Noel, Missouri is a small town in the far southwest corner of the state with several chicken farms and chicken processing plants. The owners brought in illegal immigrants from Mexico for years, but now they are bringing in illegals from the east African country of Somollia (misspelled), because the Mexicans won't work for wages as low as the owners are now paying. This phenomenon will sweep the country.
When you jump off the sinking ship to swim with the sharks, you know it must be bad on board. America's failing economy, xenophobic laws and racism -vs- cartels and violence where entire police stations quit for fear for their lives.
You realize that the US actually has lax laws (or enforcement) for immigration, right? Go to Europe and try to do what the Mexicans do here, find out how "xenophobic" it is there.
I am a Hispanic American and I for one am glad the rate of illegals is going down. I don't like paying for my kid and theirs. I live in NM and our schools have such a low rating. Why? Because we have to translate to children of illegals. Everyone knows if but fails to admit to the "Elephant in the room". Kids don't get the attention they need. All the schools where children of illegals are predominant are the ones failing. I made the decision to have my kids in a private school since lawmakers side with illegals rights groups. So sad.
I'm sorry you have to endure a country in which you followed the law, yet treats those who did not as if they are equal to you. That is not right.
ignorance is bliss huh? Everyone pays some form of taxes. Everything people purchase is taxed, so the state is getting their due payments.
HHR, are you serious? You think sales tax makes up for income tax? How stupid are you.
I have a love for all people but it is a shame when we demand lower and lower prices on food, clothing and products then complain when we outsource to China or have Mexicans picking fruit for $1 an hour.
You cannot go to walmart and expect a dollar tube of toothpaste then get mad when American Union workers get $37 an hour. We caused this crap and brought it on ourselves with greed.
It's pity that your own people don't have the same opportunity to immigrate legally as you did. I think it's more about the quota's that restrict the current applicants from legally coming into the country legally. I'm not defending their presence here illegally but if they could be here legally they probably would go that route.
I do agree that those that are here illegally put a big weight on the rest of us by requiring a lowest common denominator to placed into effect. The brightest kids have to watch as the kids that don't even learn English are catered to. A mandatory requirement for all kids prior to placement in any U.S. school system should be conversational English.
I blame Obama.
I blame the republicans for using the cheapest labor they can find to maximize their profits. Then comes Obama.
Why, do you think he invented immigration problems? This was a problem long before he came around. i.e. the statistic shown in this report are mostly prior to his term.
This gives us a more clear picture than the white house is reporting on the lack of jobs and growth in our country. Romney is so coming in at the right time.
So you are saying that if Romney gets elected all the Mexicans will come back?
The ONLY thing Romney will do is line his own pockets. The entire country will go into a deep depression under the same Republican policies that Bush had in place when the economy collapsed. Romney=Economic Disaster!
It is incredible to me how ignorant people can be. This "illegal problem" is a "problem" which is NEEDED here in the states if you want to keep prices down across the board. The low skill, low paying jobs that "illegals" take are jobs that need to be done but no one here in the states will do. We see US citizens who would rather collect a welfare check (probably more than the illegals get in wages) instead of working those low skill jobs. Want to get rid of "illegals"? FIne, eliminate welfare, and you'll see "deserving" americans take those low skill, low wage jobs.
Maybe we will save money in taxes not having to give illegals food stamps, free healthcare, and free schooling.
Agree with decreasing welfare and making people work. The illegals can work here just as well, they just need to come in the front door and not sneak in the back; they can get work visas just like everyone else who is here legally.
Completely agree. However, as long as our demand for cheap labor exceeds the natural supply, we will continue to see this issue.
Welfare hasnt existed for over a decade, and they arent eligable for unemployment because they havent been employed. Many falsely claim disabilities and game social security, but that itself will be insolvent in 25 years. So, foodstamps and medicare... Thats what poor Americans would have to give up.
HHR, you're right. Get rid of both!
Well remember that 1/3 of Americans are on some form of Government "Assistance". 1/2 of Americans don't pay any taxes. So if we remove all those who dont do their part, then there goes our consumer driven economy.
Incorrect. I am unemployed and have found numerous jobs that require me to be bilingual ( speak spanish ). I don't and I cannot get hired. How can I as a manufacturing manager not get hired because the workers do not speak english? I cannot even be hired for a line job in manufacturing without being able to speak spanish. The illegals have taken my job!
Have you tried picking fruit or cleaning toilets? That is always needed. A job is a job right?
The idea that we can't pay people a living wage and still have affordable prices for our products and services is completely ludicrous. This nation did it for decades.
As evidence, I give you 1945-1980. When everything we consumed here was made here, the economy was much stronger, the value of a dollar was much higher, and even unskilled laborers could earn a decent wage that afforded them enough extra money to go and actually consume things and drive the economy.
If you only pay someone enough to cover their rent and utility bills, they're not going to be going out buying consumer goods and services, and that's exactly the problem we have today. Wages, in terms of buying power, have been at the same level they were in the 80's, but due to inflation the cost of goods and services has increased a lot. My grandfather was able to support himself, his wife, and their 4 children, buy a home, buy a new car every few years, take the kids on vacation every summer, put a little something away for their college...all on a single salary as a truck driver.
The difference? My grandfather wasn't competing with a Chinese slave laborer on the other side of the globe because, in his day, any employer that tried to hire illegals or outsource his labor to foreigners would have been ostracized/boycotted and run out of town. A rising tide lifts all boats, and 30 years of failure concerning Trickle-Down Economics is enough evidence that it's time for a change in our way of thinking.
Either we tax goods coming into this country so that the financial advantage of off-shoring is eliminated, or we continue watching our standard of living decrease until it reaches parity with the developing world. Personally, I prefer to live in a first-world manner.
On a normative level, I could completely agree. However, looking at the real situation, we realize that this is a world economy. As you said, we are competing with the Chinese, on many levels. The fact that we're in a new global economy means that wages want to equilibrate to a world level. So it is inefficient to pay someone here double or triple what is paid in China for the same product. You're argument is based on a much more closed economy. It COULD work if we only consume what is produced here, however the reality is that its never going to happen. Our companies are much more comfortable paying low wages in China or else were, mean while reaping in HUGE profit margins. Also the average consumer is happier buying their food for virtual pennies instead of paying what the actual price should be.
you are indicative of the mindset that has allowed this nation to fall to financial ruin; the mexicans don't want a job...they want your life...they don't want to speak english, so liberals accomodate them...they want to have babies and not pay...liberals accommodate them...they want medical care, dental care...food stamps...welfare...and the liberals accommodate them by creating laws forbidding US citizens from denying the illegals....it is absolutely no different than if you had a knock at the door, you open and a thug with a gun wants everything in your house.....wants you to hand it over....THEFT...you and your liberal mind set minions have led to the destruction of the nation...so, you see, you're the ignorant one.
I'm sorry you're so angry.. Im only arguing for the reason why theres a problem, not justifying it. It someone takes your job, you have three options; A-Find a new job, regardless on what it is, B-Adapt, maybe learn a new skill, or C-Continue collecting a welfare check. Like i said before, as long as you and your family are happy shopping at Walmart, paying virtually nothing for you're food, there will be people to will work for virtually nothing to make it. The reason US citizens don't take those jobs, are because they are more than happy to live off of OUR paychecks. So next time you want to hate someone because you're having a hard time, look blame yourself.
I'm fine with cutting welfare, let's start with corporate welfare. Money grants, favorable treatment, tax breaks, farming bonuses on land that is not primarily for growing food (see oil fields), tax loopholes for mega-wealthy.
The welfare so many Americans want to rail against is a drop in the bucket compared to what these programs cost us. A rough estimate was 125 BILLION in corporate welfare a year...that's completely ignoring the wall street bailout. That amount is the yearly cost with no end in sight. Social welfare is more in line with 8 BILLION a year.
Do you honestly think the 8 billion is the issue there? It really IS incredible how ignorant some people can be.
Hey if you're talking about eliminating the corporate welfare structure I'm all for it. However they would not simply absorb the cost. Get ready for 7 dollar a gallon gas. As for your welfare calculations? WAy off. Don't forget about the BILLIONS which are payed by the state, and not the federal government.
Your not trapped. You can go anywhere you want. The door is open for you to leave too and no one is stopping you.
This article focuses part of it's view on the growing number of deportations and stronger border security as being a large part of the decline in Mexican "immigrants" coming to the USA and more of them who are already here leaving of their own volition.
Seems to me that people who enter this country illegally (those who would be concerned with deportations and border security) shouldn't be called immigrants, they should be called CRIMINALS since that's what violating immigration law makes you. My grandparents, who came here from Greece legally, became naturalized citizens, learned English, and got jobs ... THEY were immigrants.
Good riddance to illegals.
Another Vistory for President Obama. I'm sure he has your vote now.
Websters defines Vistory as the History of Victors.
Every working immigrant replaces a lazy US worker. There are plenty of jobs out there, americans simply think they are too good for them. Besides, why pick oranges when you can sit home and collect all day? It would destroy our country if every illegal walked off the job. It's your laziness that creates the demand for them.
Are you implying that every low paying job is filled by an illegal?
Couldn't have said it better
That's not quite accurate, but your trying. I think it's got more to do with the type of job and what it pays....rather than being lazy.
Minimum wage is $8.00 an hour in California for an 8 hour day that is $64.00 a day before taxes. Take out 30% and your left with $44.80 a day. Fourty dollars may make for good TV show but to live off doesn't work. You can not support a family on minimum wage. Americans lazy not really just know we deserve better then what Wal-Mart is putting out.
No one is forcing these workers to remain employed at Walmart.
Thank you, Johnson. You took the words right out of my mouth.
While I abhor illegal immigration and hate that certain groups gwt to cut the
Ine over other groups. There are no supporting facts for your argument.
If there is a shortage of workers in the US, then businesses will have to compete for employees. Canada has this problem. They have only 30 million people and a very lax immigration policy and a worker shortage so short that is bad for business. Over supply of workers means people compete for business under supply means business competes for you. Striking the balance is what is key so losing a few million people to Mexico and their economic growth will only strengthen us.
Of course George Friedman of STRATFOR mentioned this in his book two years ago called the next 100 years.
For over 500 years America was built on AMERICAN labor, only over the last 10-15 years have mexicans taken construction/lawn, etc jobs....I PROMISE that we will go right back to taking those jobs if EVERY single illegal left tomorrow, America would still run.
You hit the nail right on the head! I'm from Texas and there would not be any new construction without the Mexican labor force. I think we need a system for them to pay some kind of tax if they have been here for a certain number of years (but with no serious legal problems). If they do have serious legal issues, then for sure they can't be here and they have to go back. Nothing would be built without them!!! Around here, you sure dont see any Americans working on the construction sites, except for the supervisors!
Very true and very sad! Me being a 26 year old white American, I would be more proud to help grow and sustain our wonderful land than to fight and kill in wars where WE go to them.. What happened to 1776!? Heck, what happened to 1976! My fathers generation in 'my' opinion destroyed our way of life.. Wal-mart and the internet are amazing things but we're they really worth it? Today's technology is to fast.. Its all about now, its making us all lazy! I'll do it tomorrow.. NO! we need to do it today.. Citizens open your eyes, we are destroying ourselves because we're so worried about what the next person is doing..
What are we doing!? Why are we shutting off water to our farmers!? Why were we helping NORTH KOREA!!?? Why are we not helping OUR PEOPLE!? What we gave N Korea could have put thousands and thousands of homeless American FAMILY'S into a home with cloths and a new job.. HELP US U.S!
Help us.. I go to bed hungry 3-5 nights a week so my wonderful son wont.. We can! be that great Nation again! I believe we can.. We go to work and make just enough money to pay the bills.. Yet I grow a vegetable in my back yard and Im a criminal. A very few truly love their land and their country, well can you do US a favor and give it back!?
Truly yours,
America
P.S. Walmart is the reason small business has went down the toilet everything in 1 building with a bunch of 7.50 an hour EMPLOYEES.. Give the business back to the people!
If you’re so worried about the low skill, low pay job. It's your fault for not getting an education to better yourself.
Really, clean your own house. Have you ever employed a mexican? I have and they are awesome workers, but I know the insides and all the ones I know send 75% of their money back to Mexico to their families. They are happy working around customers like yourself because they have too to keep the work. Common sense.
Well, maybe Mexicans are finding out that life here in the U.S. isn't as great as it's hyped up to be to the rest of the world, and they've discovered we have our own set of troubles that can make life a pain in the b u t t for a lot of people....for instance, no jobs, astronomical health care costs, high cost of living, rapid decay in moral values, corruption, etc. In other words, they've found that the grass isn't really as green here as they thought it was, and the milk and honey only flow to the few who are rich enough to afford them.
These are the legal immigrants. You know, the ones that followed the law. They got here and found out that the illegals have undercut wages so bad that they can't find a decent paying job. Why hire legals when you can hire illegals at 1/3 the price.
I keep hearing people say how mexicans are taking their jobs but they can never give any examples. Why is that?
Thank you God for this blessing to this Great Country!!
It's not a blessing when even the immigrants say Mexico is better than here!
duh, that's only your opinion, the VAST MAJORITY of legal Americans think the way I do....The OVERLOAD of illegals has overburdened our economy/govt. when the economy was already strained.
True to a small extent but it is a bell curve. Fewer workers means businesses will compete to hire people. They will try to pass on this cost to consumers as usual however their is a point where they will be forced to have their margins dipped into because people will not pay that much. After all the balance is what is a responsible profit margin.
You offer the same old story time after time... ".. who'll do the dirty work?" Sounds like you're worried.
I wonder why we weren't we paying $10 for a burger and $100 for a lawn before "they" came?
This is another GREAT thing happening on Obamas watch... Good riddance, get em out and lock the freakin gates.
They should "throw away the Key"
They can't count illegals leaving the country.
That is the way it should be. Going back to Mexico!!!!
Thank you Arizona!!!!!
I see no evidence of this in Northern Virginia where I live, or Little Mexico.
And you can identify them on sight?
then we can talk about how U.S. is declining faster than anyone would've expected....way to go!
On the whole, the Hispanic and Asian students that I work with are usually better behaved than their non-Hispanic counterparts.
FINALLY! Some good news in the media!
Now is we could just restart the Monrovian repatriation again things will really be looking up.
The funny thing is that if Jorge and Maria came to America, changed their name to Tad and Buffy, learned English, and started rooting for the Packers or the Giants, no one would care a hill of beans whether they were here illegally or not.
I would, thanks.
I would.... They need to become LEGAL and pay TAXES.
So why doesn't anyone care about the Canadians who do the same thing??
guest...what all 10 canadians who came here...
You're right. It's also time that we lazy Americans take over all of the jobs that the "illegals" are doing. Then we can watch the prices in this country rise thanks to all of us lazy and pompous Americans and our work ethic. Then you can complain about the prices of your food.
I'd like to see more Americans who can take care of their OWN food supply,in their backyard, in their neighbors – in their community garden. If we made and preserved more of our own food and seeds instead of relying on giant California and Texas farms we would not be so distressed when the prices go up in the stores and they would not CONTROL us by our food supply. Our family does it and we are considered 'strange' – but I am not complaining about what price the frozen dinners are at lunch like my coworkers. And there is a nice pantry at home if any emergency should happen. I know there are other repercussions up and down the commercial and stock market line but in the end it comes down to what do YOU need for your family to survive, how will you make it if you cannot buy it – and cannot buy it is becoming more and more common.
Really!?!? The illegals are flocking on their own? This is fantastic news.
no kidding hiphiphurray!!!!!
The comments here are so predictable. HATE is the new black.
They couldn't collect enough welfare fast enough. They realized it would involve work. This is propaganda though most likely to setup for the coming legalization. We are just puppets in the masters game. The media isn't bias free. The media is bought and paid for. The truth being told are half truths at best most times.
It's not HATE, it's that we don't want people in the country illegally, it's very simple. Mexicans stay in MEXICO! Everyone stay in your own birth country, end of story. We can't take in everyone, the country will turn to total crap with poop people sucking off the government....like it's not bad enough already.
Yes, I stopped in to read the article and surprise, lot's of nasty comments.
Blinded tolerance is the new stupidity!
Thank you Arizona, Alabama, and Georgia!!
You did what the federal government neither would, nor could.
Going to be interesting when crop picking season starts in Alabama again. When fields of crops die in the fields because no one wants the job of picking them.
To be exact, this excerpt from the Business blog
Alabama’s immigration ID law will cost the state 70,000 to 140,000 direct and indirect jobs annually and could put a dent of $2.3 billion to $10.8 billion in the state’s GDP.
Oh Caw, if this is actually true, it couldn't have happened to a better state!! That's what they get for passing profiling laws!
I mean NINE out of 10 people never came back.
Got news for you caw...white and black picked crops for HUNDREDS of years before the illegals came to do it....If we have to, we will fill those jobs again.
They couldn't collect enough welfare fast enough. They realized it would involve work. This is propaganda though most likely to setup for the coming legalization. We are just puppets in the masters game.
The media isn't bias free. The media is bought and paid for. The truth being told are half truths at best most times.
Ahahaha. Most of those immigrants do more work in a single day than Americans do in a week. Illegals may be lots of things, but lazy isn't one of them.
You are right.
Irrelevant! The take much more than they give. I wish you lived in AZ and paid tax support to these abuses.
Exactly right. This article is softening up the public to keep the borders open. Nobody seems to believe the Arizona experience. This administration refuses to help and wants hispanic votes. States sovereignty be damned and don't ask us for help, says Eric Holder. This is NOT a racial issue, it is a State upholding its freedom when the Feds won't.
You know your country is starting to declinewhen not even Mexicans like it here. Face it, when the jobs are gone, all that's left is American culture, which is basically fast food, monster trucks, fat people, guns, and bad health care. Who wants that?
I agree Maxine...So long Kelley.
I'm against illegal immigration like everyone else here, but I also have enough common sense to point out that the day we start having to pay legal Americans to do the work that illegals do is the same day that the 88¢ head of lettuce costs $4.50 when a unionized Teamster picks it (taking five times as long to do the job). Problem is, we don't have Americans stepping up to do the jobs illegals do for a pittance. I have no idea what the solution to the problem is, but the fact is, we do need the work the illegal aliens provide.
We could always have people clock a fourty hour week to get food stamps. If one doesn't work, or at least attempt to, then one cannot value goods.
I would like to see a work program for them, where they enter legally, are not able to get any social benefit welfare, food stamps or medical care. However, farms that hire them should provide food and housing while working for them and a basic wage for the work they do and maybe some type of insurance for basic medical care that they can elect to pay for.
so what happens when they get sick or get hit by a truck. do we send them back. the fact is if they can get legal status they will not be doing what they are doing now for what they are getting. yes we need them here and its working for us just the way it is now that's why the us gov is not changing it. I am very sorry to see them leave they are a great workforce that we are loosing. many many businesses depends on them.
No, people who have not looked at the data make such comments. The price of foodstuffs has many factors, market forces AND government policies. Food subsidies to corn and sugar growers make those foods artificially cheaper than they would otherwise be, hence the dumping of those products in so many other foods – high fructose corn syrup and sugar in ketchup for instance. The solution is to change subsidies to healthy foods grown by local farmers, administered through the states, not the Department of "Agrobusiness". This would have the added benefit of making healthy fruits and vegetables available as basic food stores rather than the cheap, unhealthy garbage we have now. This would also impact our healthcare problems of obesity and diabetes. Simple solution, but one that does not receive legislative or media attention, much to our detriment as a society.
This farm deal that has always been used to justify the Mexican influx is bull. I just retired early. I live in a rural area where they use Mexicans as laborers...I would be happy to go back to work on one of these farms for $15 an hour...They did a study about how much food prices would really increase if Americans were employed...It was less than a 10 percent increase. This whole Mexican thing is the fault of the farmers and ranchers who just wanted cheap labor and because they were mostly Republican they got what they wanted as it also made the manufacturers that we used to have here happy as well to have these workers here. Nothing against Mexicans as most I've met I like and were hard working but there's NO reason that they should have ever been allowed to violate our borders and fill our schools with their kids and "anchor" babies like has happened. We need to enforce all immigration laws and do citizenship verification by all employers. Mexicans need to go back to their country and solve their problems in their country. We have enough problems here and adding more people to our welfare/foodstamps/school systems is NOT going to help us and you'll be paying a whole lot more for that cheap head of lettuce than you think...
Well said Davel...that sums up this WHOLE issue in a nutshell.
Immigration from Mexico at a standstill? "Curses!", says the GObP.
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All this complaining is pathetic. At least the average illegal worker is THANKFUL for a job, while the average American Teenager just EXPECTS to be given one. With the Mexicans leaving, say hello to $10 burgers and $100 car washes. It's ironic that a country that CLAIMS to be capitalist, that when the reality of market forces take effect, you run home to your 'BIG' government to protect you. You also blame the illegals,. but FAIL to even mention the companies who HIRE them. Come on and wake up. It's pathetic. Don't say you weren't informed.
Actually you are 100% incorrect. First you need to look at the jobs these folks fill. Second supply/demand plays a bigger part in prices. Third – you are assuming farmers will hire anyone and pay them a wage the employee wants. You should probably really examine all of the factors that affect prices first.
I'm sure you've done extensive studies to refute this one? I'd love to see your data!
not 11 million – try closer to 100 million.
Think about it people – in 1980 how many illegal or spanish-only speaking people did you run into?
And now??
Hey MJ I run into every single day today in Maryland. The only way to avoid mexicans who do not speak english is to just stay home and keep the windows closed. Of those who think they do not run into them let me remind you they are teh cleaners of all the major local companies and food chains. Outside of employment I see them mostly at shopping malls sitting in the baby toddler rest area in teh center of the malls. Your question asking how many do we run into now a day? I say way too many! I thik they left your town and headed east.
The focus should be on ALL ILLEGAL immigrants not just Hispanics.
Uh, 100 million? That's almost double the whole population of Mexico. Another example of bold face lies.
Uh...Mexico city "supposedly' has about10 million people in the greater metro, so I don't think that is too high for a mexican population. I do think the actual illegal influx into America is north of 30 million...look at the border states alone. That is not all from mexico...but we are lumping ALL south and central immigrants in that number
You do realize that most Illegal immigrants SAY they are Mexican, when really they are from Central or South America?
Illegal immigrants from Central and South America are treated more poorly in Mexico than in America.
They claim they are Mexican so we don't deport them all the way back home, and avoid punishment from the Mexican Government.
This is why we have to use a lottery system to allow Mexican immigrants to get citizenship.
I seriously doubt a third of the US population are illegal immigrants. Try thinking about things a little before you pull out random numbers next time.
When you run into a spanish speaking person, how do you know if they are illegal. I know – you assume, but what's the real answer.
Now, all of our jobs are going to Mexico, Jamaica, China, etc, etc.... that is what is going to happen.
all the employers that hired them will go after them wherever they go.
None at all now that the state has started coming after them.
The local car wash used to be overrun by Latinos. Now they're all gone... high-tailing it for easier pickings (pun intended) in liberal states that will pander to them. I still get my car washed. The price hasn't gone up, on tomatoes, and the workers ALL speak English, as it's their first language.
There go the broken-record arguments of "who'll do the dirty work".
@Cosmo, do you have any evidence to support your ridiculous claims? The article sites publicly available data, which of course you simply dismiss because you don't agree with the facts, so where is your proof to dispute it? Sorry, anecdotes about the one Mexican family with 12 kids that lives down the street from your trailer doesn't count.
Most of the mexicans havent left the USA fast enough.When I can drive to Home Depot or gas stations and see for myself less than 2 people standing there looking for jobs then I will believe it! So, just how much faster will the rest of the 11 millon that are here will go back needs to have an express lane heading south too!!
Americans are too lazy to do the work that the mexicans do.If this was NOT true, then wouldn't Americans be doing the jobs instead? Common sense to me.
Those so called "lazy Americans" used to do those jobs until corporations and employers made the work undesirable by reducing wages, cutting benefits reducing the workers to part time, etc. At that point many of the "labor" jobs were than back filled with low wage workers who by their immigration status would not complain about harsh work conditions out of fear of being deported. Up until mid 1980's "those jobs" were done by American workers.
Supply and demand, market forces and capitalism. Isn't that what the US was built on? Doing something cheaper than someone else?
This story is a boldface lie. More propaganda from the corporate owned media outlets to make you believe our corporate owned government is actually doing anything in "We the People"s best interest. Powers that be want to stay in power. the Majority of sheeple believe anything and everything they read on CNN or NBC or Wikipedia.
It is an election year, they will try to focus on the news about all good things this administration has done, and none of the bad, its all the same it has not changed. We are still in trouble with mr greenjeans at the helms. And you know who I mean. The media, makes us think about how good things are and they want us to think as they do and want. They are the reason this administration is in office and people are dumb enough to listen. Do your own investigation and see the real numbers, in foreclosures, economy, petro. All those home land things have not been fixed. POO on the media.
According to the Pew Hispanic Research Center, only 3% of illegal aliens work in agriculture.
The Federal government can issue 300.000 H-2B work visas for that.
But we don't need and want 12 million Illegals here.
Don't forget the prisons. Plenty of cheap labor there, and the inmates would be glad to get out of the yard.
I would be far more interested in these numbers if CNN had done their homework and broken out legal vs. illegal. I don't care if the number of legal immigrants has gone up or down, as they are following the process to come to the U.S. LEGALLY. What does matter is the number of illegals. This has nothing to do with race, religion, or any other factor beyond the CHOICE to entering the U.S. illegally.
The media likes to omit the "ILLEGAL" part. Especially in an election year. I agree. I am a second generation American. My grandparents came to this country LEGALLY.
what process morons, there is not such thing for the poor and uneducaded person, you people give your opinion in matters that have no clue. The immigrations law are available in their website, go there yourself educte yourself and then comeback here to this site and give your opinion, because now, all I see is a bunch of big mouths spreading hate to a group of people, You are opressing the ones with less opportunity in life. Shame on you, may God pay you back your, arrogance, and weakeness.
But who will cut your lawn, clean your car and make your food? Those lazy American teens? good luck. Enjoy paying $10 for a burger, and $100 for a lawn cutting, because that's the way things will go now. Don't say you were not informed.
Doesn't matter to me. We cook our own food, wash our own cars, and cut our own lawn.
The market will dicate the pricing, if it is too high people won't buy the good or service. Simple really pay a market price or do it yourself.
Pony....well said.
99 is trying to ram his socialist agenda down our throats...simple stated, what he is saying is not true.
Worked on the family farm walking behind a tractor picking up 70Lbs bails of hay, stacking it in the loft in 110 heat chased cows in 15 below temps. Welded in temps and places that many would not so the next person that says Americans will not do these jobs needs their head examined and a good butt kicking this country got along great with out the CRIMINAL'S (illegals) and until your government gave amnesty to millions of CRIMINAL'S we did not have this problem people need to get your facts straight ! Americans want these jobs but not for 1970's wages !
People are NOT willing to pay more for food so good luck with that. How many people would say, I'm fine with increasing my grocery bill x10 so that people can get a 'fair' wage? I find it ironic that the same people who complain about having to pay for health care and 'socialist' programs demand higher wages mandated by the government! Demands for higher wages and NOT letting the market decide your wage is the very definition of socialism.
Wrong, just wrong wrong wong.
99 I'm not,...So your logic is pretty FOS...poor attempt in casting a wide net.
Thanks to recently passed laws cracking down on illegals they're all but gone here. They've high-tailed it to liberal states who'll pander to them and their broods.
I still get my car washed for a 20, the price of tomatoes hasn't gone up as much as a cent, and workers here ALL speak English as it's their native language. What do you know... Arizona is right after all.
Using your tired old logic (sic), I wonder how exactly you're going to explain all of this.
The answer? We won't be hearing any more of your drivel about Americans being too lazy to do your dirty work.
NOW you can call yourself "informed".
Again, if Americans did more for their OWN food security and household security – like our grandparents did on the most part – we would be better off and not hurt as badly by the ups and downs of the economy. It is not just the hippies and the religious fundamentalists that can garden, cook, can, sew clothing, raise animals and make their own gadgets and tools to take care of all of the above. We have lost so much of our self-sufficiency to the corporations it is evident everywhere you look. It is terribly sad when a 3 dollar t-shirt falls apart in the wash after less than 6 months when I can take the time and energy to turn 7 dollars worth of fabric into a shirt that will last a year. My sister will not even TRY she says it just hurts her head and she 'likes shopping' so why bother. Even working full time (at a pretty physical job for a woman) and can still garden, can, knit and sew my household into a much better financial standpoint than my neighbors/relatives. We are not crying to mother every two weeks that our paycheck is gone and have nothing to show for it. Where has this nation's work ethic gone that we are happier to flop in front of a TV or video console instead of providing for our households? Now health care is a whole other issue - if they start enforcing us to pay insurance for 10 times what we would normally pay for doctor care over the year, we will be hurting no matter how hard we work just to pay the heat for the winter... start looking into wood heat or downsizing what area of the house is heated etc...
yes, but I'm also tired of paying for those lazy americans that just collect their welfare checks and sit on their as$. Lazy as americans that have access to an education but rather grow up acting like thugs and sell crack and pop them babies.
Sounds like you speak from experience.
Yes, Yes, I as an American citizen want a minimum wage paying job as a farmer or better yet as a toilet cleaner. I love the low skill, low paying jobs. I as an American with access to the best schools and some of the best public schools will only want to work for that low skill, low pay jobs. I have an education but after I get out of college I'm going straight to being a farmer.
If you’re so worried about the low skill, low pay job. It's your fault for not getting an education to better yourself right here at home.
Except that 1 out of 2 college graduates is unemployed or underemployed. A college education doesn't mean you will get a well-paying job anymore...
I'll take my chance. But unfortunately you probably didn't. Go back to your $7.25/hour job.
less mexicans coming to american, what are republicans going to rail about now? I guess they will have to talk real issues, like jobs
Wait – don't we have a democrat in the white house? Shouldn't he be doing something about jobs and illegal immigration?
Nope. That's not how America works. The POTUS can't do it on his own – he needs COOPERATION from congress, which is not forthcoming. I can't wait until November to vote out the GOP majority...then maybe we can start accomplishing something.
Oh and of course I'm sure you are already aware there have more deportations of illegals under Obama than any other president, right?
He was busy improving the illegal immigration problem.
Republicans in Arizona, Alabama and Georgia are responsible for this exodus. They've done what the federal government neither would nor could.
Mexicans arent the problem, outsourcing is the problem.
Different problem.
The pew hispanic center is basically saying "nothing to see here" in an election year. Pretty typical from an organization that has done everything it can to assist illegal immigration from mexico for years. Not to mention that cnn has made it's feelings very clear on this issue.
i agree with you mph
"Many factors are probably behind the trend, the report said, including rising deportations, greater enforcement at the border, growing dangers associated with border crossings, the weakened U.S. job market and a long-term decline in Mexico's birth rates."
How about the U.S. economy being completely in the toilet? I'm hoping the video-game addict high schoolers see the huge job opportunities they are now getting–in Mexico.
The republicans fixed the immigration problem! Making America so horrible no one wants to come here any more!
Good..the less the better now days
Rabble Rabble Rabble...it is fun to make absolutely no sense! Rabble rabble rabble
Your "anyone" actually equates to "illegals". Great job GOP.
Great news. Let's continue to work on some of the "factors" named in the article - increasing deportations and enforcement at the border.
The local car wash used to be overrun by Latinos. Now they're all gone... high-tailing it for easier pickings (pun intended) in liberal states that will pander to them.
I still get my car washed and detailed for a 20, the price hasn't gone up on tomatoes, and the workers ALL speak English, as it's their first language.
There goes your tired arguments of "who'll do the dirty work".
Good....stop giving citizenship and a SSN to those born in this country whose parents are here illegally.
What about the people that are here legally but temporarily like tourists, can their child receive citizenship?
It is current law but they should not.
America was built on the backs of immigrants. I am an immigrant, I looked up the process to move to America, I followed the process, and after the 10 years of working the process i got my citizenship.
If you want to come to this country follow the process – if you want to be here illegally – then you should be sent back to where you came from. People of all faiths, economic standings, colors, origins move to this country legally every year – follow the process and you are welcome – don't follow the process you become a drain on society.
Amen! I agree with your comment. I am also an immigrants, came to the us by the same process.
Right on man. MPH for president.
Good for you! You did it the right way and see what happened?
The system works. Welcome!!
Hey what process? You provably have a collage degree, if you have ever read the immigrations law, you know that a poor mexican, with education do not have a chance to come here legally, if they would have the opportunity you had to go school, like you did, they provably wouldn't be here. You should stayed in your own country and if you are so smart and hard working you should it create opportunity for yourself in your own country, and stop poisoning weak people's mind.
Ed, Obama doesn't need help to look good. He can do it all by himself. But you, on the other hand, are helping him. TY!
There is some insincerity here as most people want the cheapest product possible... don't spout off about legal and illegal unless you are prepared to farm yourself or buy expensive organic or local food. the fact is most of the wealth is still in the US held by the farmer or the owners of walmart not the workers
The NEWS you want to believe is in a newsletter called Stormfront. Ron paul wrote a similar newsletter.
I've never understood why the so-called Americans think they are any different from the Mexican immigrants. They aren't from America, they came here and stole this land and call it their own, hypocritical much?
I have friends who are illegal immigrants and you know what? They pay taxes when they can, they pay sales, property, and income taxes. How? The government gives them a sort-of ID in order for them to still pay their share of the taxes.
The racism on these CNN comments never ceases to amaze me.
- Mexican-American, 3rd generation, so save the illegal rants.
What a stupid argument that all Americans came here illegally or stole land from the natives.
My grand parents all entered the U.S. through Ellis Island. They came from Germany and Ireland. The Germans learned to speak English, started a business, and raised my mother. Both my grand fathers served in the army during WWI. Obviously, I and my siblings were born here.
Compare that to sneaking across the border, then getting the odd job here and there, sending money tax free back to the home country, taking advantage of free health care by clogging up the ERs whenever you have a child with an ear ache because you know they can not turn you down, getting food stamps, sending your kids to publicly supported schools, and on top of it all, demanding that everyone learn your language instead of learning to speak English.
Big difference.
Well back then you didn't pay an astronomical fee like today and you didn't have to wait a long long time. People that went through Ellis island were processed right then and there. That's why Mexicans are crossing illegally. You can't say "well they need to go by the book like my ancestors did", because the book was so different back then. Apparently, Lady Liberty is not singing "Give me your tired, your poor" anymore.
Thank you. Well put. The part about "illegal immigrants" is what most posters are forgetting.
Yes, there's a big difference – and this is it: Your grandparents simply had to decide to walk into this country when they were processed through Ellis Island. There were no restrictions on immigration back then.
There's no Ellis Island or open immigration anymore. It isn't that Mexicans DON'T want to immigrate "the legal way", it's that they CAN'T. Even assuming he can come up with the several thousands in fees, there is NO immigration category that a farm laborer from Mexico can apply for and get approved anytime in his LIFETIME, because unskilled labor is just about last when it comes to immigration priority. Heck, if you don't qualify for the green card lottery – open to only citizens of rich countries with low immigration rates – then the only way you can immigrate is if you either have close relatives already in this country that are willing to sponsor you, or scarce high-tech skills needed in the workforce.
I'm personally not a fan of mass illegal immigration myself, but let's at least educate ourselves on why this is happening.
yep OnlyOne, there is a REASON it costs thousands and we aren't looking for anymore poor manual laborers. It is because we need JOB CREATORS, not takers. We need educated people with some financial resources of their own to help boost our economy. The last thing we need is more minimum wage liabilities here. Let Suzy and Jonny high school student work the fast food and lawn care industry again. Let the droves of trailer dwellers and subsidized housing folks work in the Ag industry. It is time for citizens to step up and start making the US a place the works hard again, not a sniveling bunch of winers looking for handouts.
Racist much?
No,he is honest much(mucho).
My thoughts exactly ed.
If it is in the news it is likely to be BS. If you want to find out what is truly going on in America – find a foreign newspaper and read it.
The warehouse I work in is hard work. Mostly Mexican who volunteer for overtime as opposed to caucasians who moan and groan cuz it will kill them to be away from their family a few hours more. Looking at diary of construction boss who built Walcot dam in 1905, he praised the Mexican workers and cursed the LAZY europeans.
That or like the repubs they think Obama is going to force them to use birth control lol.
What? 12 million already in the country illegally is still not a huge problem?