by Alicia W. Stewart, CNN
(CNN) –“All we wanna do is adopt a highway,” said April Chambers, secretary of the North Georgia chapter of the Ku Klux Klan. “We're not doing it for publicity. We're doing it to keep the mountains beautiful. People throwing trash out on the side of the road ... that ain't right."
For many Americans, the Ku Klux Klan has been a symbol for terrorism, racism and evil in America, synonymous with burning crosses, lynchings and hooded men.
Even today, the name evokes vociferous discussion about the rights of a local group to adopt a highway in North Georgia, which was recently denied.
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But is the latest effort to adopt a highway an introduction of a new era of a kinder, gentler Klan or merely an effort to gain attention? After more than a century and a half, what is the Ku Klux Klan today?
"We're not racists," Chambers told CNN Monday. "We just want to be with white people. If that's a crime, then I don't know. It's all right to be black and Latino and proud, but you can't be white and proud. I don't understand it."
Harley Hanson, who filed the application to adopt the highway for the International Keystone Knights Realm of Georgia, concurred: “I love my race. Does that make me wrong? I’m proud to be white,” he told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Georgia official: KKK won't be allowed to 'adopt' highway
Today, when speaking to leaders of the Klan, you won't hear racial epithets or a denunciation of any ethnic groups.
"We do not hate anyone,” said Frank Ancona, the imperial wizard of the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. “The true Ku Klux Klan is an organization that is looking out for the interests of the white race. It is a fraternal organization, and we do good works.”
Ancona's words are a contrast to criminal acts historically associated with the Klan - a divergence from intimidating images of hooded figures with lit crosses cutting through a dark night.
"We look out for the interest of our family first, I feel that other races feel the same way - it's a natural instinct, " he adds.
After all, who can argue with anyone about taking care of one's loved ones or cleaning up a national highway?
"These groups are interested in the press they know they are going to get off this - it doesn’t have anything to do with improving the world," said Mark Potok, editor in chief of the Intelligence Report, which tracks hate groups and extremists for the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Potok concludes that it is not a kinder, gentler Ku Klux Klan but merely a sign of the times.
“Even the Klan recognizes there is no way that they can recreate America as an all-white country,” he said.
The group began as a fraternal organization, founded by Confederate veterans after the Civil War. At its height, Ku Klux Klan members were politicians, advertising gurus, journalists, businessmen and women with powerful political and social influence. In the 1920s, membership swelled to 4 million to 5 million, fueled in part by the popularity of "A Birth of a Nation," a 1915 silent film that extolled the virtues of the Klan. The civil rights era witnessed a resurgence of the group, and it still exists today with 4,000 to 5,000 members nationally.
"I wonder why they characterize us as a hate group? Who do we hate?" Ancona said. "I know what the perception is; people come up to us and they hate us."
When speaking to him via phone, Ancona insists that there is a not a "rebranding" of the KKK. Instead, there is a focus on the original values of the Klan that have been distorted by "rogue" members and a mischaracterization by media.
"We are doing all we can to dispel the negative images," said Ancona. "If we find out one of our members was charged with a crime, or immoral behavior, we might give them a warning first, but we try to keep a tight eye on that. We have a thorough screening process to weed out troublemakers. I can only speak for the Traditional Knights, but none of our members are criminals."
Ancona sends out Twitter messages, has a modest following and speaks earnestly about the traditions of the Klan. He speaks with special conviction when talking about the standard by which he strives to live.
"Jesus Christ is our criteria of character. If you look at Romans 12:1-2, that is how Klans are supposed to live, that is the standard, " he explained. "We do not burn the cross, we light the cross to show that Christ is the light of the world."
When pressed for how historical killings intersect with with Christian teachings of loving one another, he answers that the criticism the group faces is similar to the contempt directed at his example.
"We do this even though we know we will be hated and scorned, we sacrifice and serve for what's right - to uphold the principle that were taught by Jesus Christ of Nazareth and ensure that we give our children and their grandchildren America we had."
An independent contractor, Ancona says he is not paid for his work leading the Midwest chapter. He does the work "because I feel that I am doing something good for my fellow man."
He believes there is nothing hateful in the Klan bylaws and contends that while the organization has had "a dark past," it is not dissimilar to that of the action of some priests actions in the Catholic Church or a producer cutting misleading clips in on a story about George Zimmerman: you don't judge the whole for a few bad parts.
"I would want people to know that we are here, and we are not to be feared. The Klan is looking out for the white race, to preserve our rights and our history. The Klan looks out for America as our forefathers did."
Mark Pitcavage, the director of investigative research for the Anti-Defamation League, characterizes Ancona's group as "sort of the big dog" of the Ku Klux Klan now.
Pitcavage is a former military historian who began researching militia minutemen and later right-wing extremism. He characterizes the Klan as "group of hard-core white supremacists that are motivated by a belief that the white race is in danger of extinction."
He says white supremacy is composed of five main movements: Neo-Nazis, traditional white supremacist groups, racist skinheads, racist prison gangs and Christian Identity, whose religious adherents believe they are descended from lost tribes of Israel.
The current Klan is not one cohesive group, and is considered one of the traditional white supremacist groups, which emerged in the the civil rights era.
"The situation that existed in the 1950s and '60s simply does not exist. The white supremacists are no longer in charge. They are now fighting for the very survival of the white race, and they have to fight to protect," said Pitcavage. "This is a fundamental difference of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1950s and today in the 21st century.”
In the past 60 years, several chapters of the Klan have made efforts to be involved in more civic-minded projects, such as adopting highways.
The Knights of the Ku Klux Klan - the Arkansas group that David Duke once led - tried doing it. There was also a group in Missouri that won a lawsuit to adopt a highway, and most recently, the North Georgia group that was denied the permit.
It is ok in the USA today to preach black pride, Or to have hats with Native Pride on them. But if anyone at all has pride in being a caucasian he is automatically a racist, hater who doesn't deserve to live. I'll be glad when the ultra liberal whites are the minority and see their reaction as they get their throats slit for 20 bucks and / or their ipad. I won't be alive, and I am glad. Have fun in your third world ghetto, fools.
Exactly! Thanks for sharing.
Native American, Latino, or Black pride groups would indeed be considered hateful if they claimed to be "glad" when certain people died. While white pride generally is disdained in our country, it is very common and accepted for people to be proud of being Irish, Norwegian, Swedish, German, Greek, Italian, Portuguese, or any number of other light-skinned ethnicities. The question is, when you are proud of being white, what are you proud of? The question is, are you oppressive of others? I personally am not proud per se of being white, but I'm certainly not ashamed. I don't see any sort of spectacular white heritage or unification. I had no ancestors in slavery. I'm not being accused of being illegally in the country. I wasn't forced out by colonists. No one is telling me "go back where you came from." People with my skin color are abundant on TV and in magazines.
Not really. We have Irish pride days, Italian Heritage days, etc. Our history in classrooms across the country is still taught almost totally focused on accomplishments of white men. I'm not sure your complaint. Someone once complained about black history month and asked when white history month was. Well, that would be the other 11 months of the year. I'm proud of who I am and I'm white but I"m the idea of being in a white pride group is frankly sickening. Go be proud of yourself or your ethnicity or religion or something do do with who you are. You are not a member of some group that has been historically oppressed. That is the big difference.
That is so not true. I believe that everyone sould take pride in their culture but shold also respect others as well. I am an African American female and I do not care about the color of a person skin because I believe in one race.....THE HUMANE RACE. Be careful with your thoughts, because what you think becomes what you say. Being mindful of your words, because your thoughts and words influence your actions. Start being reflective and serious about your actions, because your actions become your habits. Always striving to do more good than you have in the past, because good deeds develop habits that develop character.
Samey Same....no different than the "NEW" Black Panthers offering bounties! Where is the media uproar on that???
Ahh...the Black Panthers were never declared an illegal terrorist organization. The KKK was declared exactly that in 1871...the same year the NRA was formed. Their first legal effort? Bar blacks from owning guns. That was no accident.
@ Rush...No argrument, but, maybe the "NEW" Black Panthers should be qualified "Terrorist Org" too.
And as far as baring blacks from owning guns, maybe you should watch 48 hours sometimes if you don't already. There is our tax dollars at work....90% of the time, it shows black on black violence with illegal guns....that's the answer to most argruments in the black community, shoot first ask questions later, then they cry when caught and held for murder.
When did you ever hear that the Black Panther burned down a church or to be specific a "white church" with people in there? When do you ever hear that NAACP take a noose and hang an innocent white person just for being white? Have you ever seen of the Organizations (latino, black, italian) fighting for the equal rights of their people burn a cross infront of their neighbor's yard just because they are of different ethnicity? I think it is very naive and ignorant to compare organizations that was formed out of necessity to fight for the basic HUMAN RIGHTS of their ethnic group to the likes of KKK. The most comparable group to the KKK is the Nazi of Germany. Please note that the KKK just didn't only hate blacks, they hated the jews, muslims, and race that is not white. To even try to justify the KKK in any shape of form is to be ignorant of history, deluded of reality and closested racist. Please every white person out there like me try and read a book, do your research about this country and the atrocities committed by the KKK and sanctioned by the goverment and local laws. Maybe then you won't be too eager and rush to defend groups like the KKK. This new generation of youth which happens to be my generation annoys me when it comes to issues like these. Asking questions like why do we need black history month or NAACP or Congrational Black or Latino Caucus or HBC or things in that trend is to be ignorant of this countries history and situations that neccessitate this organizations. And that is why it is awkward when you say you belong to some "White Power" group or wanting a "White history month" because there are no reasons or need for it.
The Black Panthers were responsible for numerous MURDERS of law enforcement officials in the 60s, i believe 10 or so, and wounded nearly 5 times that. Hate groups are wrong, no matter what race they supposedly 'fight' for. In truth all they do is further fuel more violence and deepen the divisions between us.
Democrats/Liberals/Progressives are the most racist people in the country. They view everything through the lens of skin color and repeatedly tell minorities that they can't succeed without their guiding hand.
The Democratic party operates like a pre-Civil War plantation.
I disagree. The plantations were productive.
The KKK is the same trash it always has been. garbage in garbage out. They still have an agender to disrupt the well being of this great country. They need to be designated as a terrorist group and treated as such; They are threats to our national security. Kind of hoping they got that mile clean up so I can drive up there and dump my trash, cut up in a thousand pieces. Clowns!
I think that you need to focus on the positives. They are still head and shoulders above the NAACP, the SPLC, The NBC, and the rest of those vehemently racist organizations.
@mike. I never read the NAACP, SCLC or ANY Black organization Bombing churches, Raping women, little girls and boys
moreover, lynching innocent people for the hell of it! The Klan are dogs and so are you since you wishes to "lie" with them in their rhetoric.
They're not a threat.... they've been splashing around in the shallow end of the gene pool for so long they're not even taken seriously.
@OB sks, You know what dude or dudette, you aren't very smart. Somewhat of an idiot. Yes, the Klan started in the Democratic area but that area of Democrats were WASP. Blacks were republicans. After President Johnson signed the civil right bill, whites became republican and blacks democrats. If you are going to tell a story, tell it all b/c you sound so ignorant telling half of it to sound intelligent. moron
It is a conspiracy!!! I doubt that a xenophobic group who's main goal was to "purify" america are just trying to keep a highway clean!! IT IS A TRAP TO GAIN TRUST!! We need to learn from our history and not trust them!!!
It is simply a desperate attempt to self popularize and attract new members. They are reduced from a strong 4 MILLIONS members in the old days to a mere few thousands redneck members these days. They are running scare of distinction, deservedly so. This is one specie that the world will be glad to see go dead.
@ aqua13 .... Exactly, if their pure intention was to clean the highway, then there is a very simple solution to accomplishing this task. Instead of creating this media splash and public controversy of "The KKK wants to adopt a highway", they could simply buy some trash bags and go clean the highway. It is obvious that their true agenda is to create an argument to gain attention to justify and legitimise their cause.
What's next for the KKK, Tupperware parties?
Or maybe Mary K KK....
@ William ..... Wow that was HILARIOUS. Very Pun-ny!
Maybe they can update their look with new laura ashley sheets?
Kupperware Parties... bring your own sheets.
I wouldn't want to see anyone from the Nation of Islam, Black Panthers, CPUSA or any other group like that in America. But you dont correct the situation by driving them underground. They need to be in the full light of Public Opinion.
Very astute comment. This country was "born" because European settlers helped themselves to land that belonged to Native Americans. That was a huge violation of rights that cannot be undone. Then the railroad was built by Chinese slave labor. Another violation that cannot be salved by "allowing" them to have a few Chinatowns and open up over priced restaurants. Finally, the forced abduction of Africans hauled onto ships and packed like sardines into the hulls only to be treated like cattle, auctioned, and abused in order to help the cotton farmers was surely not humane but was sheer evil to say the least.
More bad news must have come out about Obama if the progressive liberal media is turning to some pathetic dying group in desperation.
I grew up in Ohio. I have lived in 4 Southern states. Nice people overall. Anymore the Klan is a social meeting group for over 50's racists. As long as they sit around and cuss then its ok. If the ropes start coming out then we have a problem. But according to CNN its the Tea Party that will hang blacks and burn Mexican children in the oven.
Isn't it weird how they stick to a non-story for days as the economy continues to tank, unemployment numbers have been restated over the past coupe of month, Boarder Agent Brian A. Terry has not received justice for his murder during the Fast and Furious program, the EPA surveillance program in the Midwest and on and on. But hey did you hear? The KKK won't be sponsoring a highway in (insert town here). NEWs please, we want news!
The klans history speaks for its self. Its the right wing haters who love this stuff.
Why do we need more problems ?.
When the Klan was reformed at Stone Mountain Georgia it was during the times of the Jim Crow laws and segregation. The South was Democrat back then with Southern Dems filibustering the Civil Rights Act. As the South became more Republican the Klan and other groups faded into history. Dems only have a use for blacks during elections. After that its back to the ghettos. But Dems have found a new race to buy votes from-Hispanics.
Too bad they're not Black Panthers, Holder would protect them
Yes, its a double standard and blatantly anti-white.
....white genocide is occurring because of massive targeted immigration to white countries only, forced integration, coerced tolerance, and social engineering of race blending/assimilation. Obviously the result is the elimination of the white race. That is white genocide.
Right-wing? Who do you think founded, leads and makes up most of the Klan? DEMOCRATS!! Get your facts straight.
kkk, good luck with that. you'll be competing with the gop.
This is comical. However, if the Democratic Party can make a complete 180 from their pro-slavery days, I guess anything is possible.
That's like claiming that if Hitler was alive, he's be kinder to the Jews!
He would probably use multi-culturalism and massive immigration to blend them out of existence as is being done to whites in all white countries today, like......Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White Countries for Everybody
Annihilation by Assimilation.................
This is for all those republican Catholics out there: Is it really worth getting into bed with the Know-Nothings? Don't let them lie to you, the klan is republican now. Democrats: one Catholic president, current vice-president, ran Catholics for president three times in the past. All I'm asking you to do is remember.
Democrats: founders and leaders of the KKK
Democrats: violently anti-Civil Rights during the 50s and 60s
Democrats: pander and promise to minorities now for votes and then let them suffer with their "hope and change"
Who do you want to ally with now?
This world has no place for ideas promoted by organizations such as the KKK, and banning them from adopting a highway is a great victory for common sense.
@Andy Victory for Common Sense .... awesome phrase I'm will be stealing that for future debates! Great Comment!
Let's remember everyone that on the battlefield we all bleed red. Bullets don't discriminate when we as a nation defend the FREEDOM of our home the USA. So that being said America is not just white or black or hispanic etc. Its EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!
Except the KKK.
Freedom???? ROFL, you must mean the freedom millions of Blacks, Puerto Ricans, Native Americans, Hawaians, political dissidents and alternate-lifestyle folks have enjoyed in this country at the hands of Jim Crow legislation, robber barons, McCarthyists, military governors, "Christian" fundamentalists (and other good ol' boys acting on behalf of the majority) have enjoyed in this country since it's foundation??? You mean the freedom I'd enjoy if I uttered a sentence in Spanish in front of a cop at a traffic light in Alabama, Central Georgia, South Carolina and Arizona??? Oh no, you must mean the freedom of everybody assuming I'm an immigrant when they hear my last name. Close, but no cigar, matter of fact, not even close.
If it is soooooo bad here, then why are you here??????? Go find your Utopia somewhere else...........oh and good luck with that. Tell me how it all works out for you.
I saw a group of men in white sheets helping an old black woman across the street and scores of hooded KKK
conducting a toy drive for homeless Black kids ... then I woke from the dream.
I knew the KKK was founded on Christian values of hate and descrimination.
"We do this even though we know we will be hated and scorned, we sacrifice and serve for what's right – to uphold the principle that were taught by Jesus Christ of Nazareth and ensure that we give our children and their grandchildren America we had."
It is clear that you are po' white trash, since you do not think for yourself. You only spout the crap that a Jewish media wants you to believe. I would prefer the KKK any day of the week to the g-d Zionist subversion we have going on in this country now.
They can say that they're only looking out for the white race but I bet the minute you ask them who's better, they'll say "the whites." When you ask who's smarter, they'll say "the whites." I don't believe they're only looking out for the white race. I'm blonde, I'm white, I don't need racists looking out for my race.
Yet the black panthers are some how different or more upstanding?
White people are the nastiest people who has ever populated the earth. Black women don't sleep with horses, dogs and other animals.
So you think your skin color effects your intelligence levels and your ability to be a decent human being? That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. The high levels of murders and test scores is due to the fact that minority's make up a high percentage of poorer areas. They don't have access to good school and can sometimes get sucked in to things like gangs at a young age. If white people made of the majority of poorer areas the same thing would be true for them.
Wow, someone stating an honest opinion..saying she does not need the KKK's support and you attack her? "Shakes head"..someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...think before you speak next time. You will sound more intelligent and won't feel the need to use swearing to get your point across.
The KKK is a joke. Most white people feel this way about it. I don't know anyone who is a part of it, they seem to be a secret cowardly group of hate that hides in their clubhouse or trailer and talks about how they hate everyone who isn't white. The joke is on them as most white people don't like the KKK.
"The current Klan is not one cohesive group" – as with Al Qaeda. Better the highway be overrun by litter than lease it to these fools.
If the Klan just wanted to be with whites, then why did they keep non-white slaves with them for so long???
Sounds to me like they just LOVED non-whites! Then, when slavery was abolished and their beloved non-white co-inhabitants kicked them to the curb, they got their feelings all hurt and got all jealous...Poor babies...Does somebody need a hug?
Number One: I understand being proud of what race you are. To not be proud of your race is to deny your ancestors and what came before you. Now, with that out of the way, I think this is ridiculous. A kinder KKK? Let's get something straight: if it wasn't for the fact that we have laws protecting people from such acts of terrorism, the KKK would still be out lynching and terrifying anyone that didn't fit their requrements. But, like many organizations, they have had to evolve with the times. It's hard to recruit young people who have grown up in a relatively liberal environment, where gay rights are being promoted and with a black man as president, and giving thundering speeches about killing black people and spewing words of hate. And they know this. So, they say that they're not racists, although they believe blacks to be inferior. Don't believe it for one second. Wolves in sheep's clothing.
You leave me with nothing else to say. Well done.
Obama tried to stir up the progressive liberal crowd with "Tray would look like my son". Spike Lee tried to have the house of Zimmerman overrun. The NAACP tried to inflame the progressive liberals as well. The KKK was founded by the Democrats and now they have returned to their old tricks under a different race.
I am more proud of the progress my nordic ancestors have made, in spite of the rage that I still feel, and in how they taught me to channel that into useful energies and endeavors. It is because we know...... society is a hairs breath away at all times ...... from the rage. We don't want to see the rage.....
Caucasian people need to get their pride back and save this country. A certain group ruins schools and spreads rampant crime. Not their fault- it's white people's fault for being weak. For the sake of all races in the US, whites need to do what they do best- get a civilized society humming again. Certain people are genetically less intelligent and we need to accept this reality.
Look at the pattern- Europe is civilized, South Africa was civilized up until 20 years ago. Compton, Detroit, Haiti, Jamaica, Somalia, Ethiopa....not so much.
Certain people are very nice when they are on a leash, and we will be very grateful when they entertain us during the summer olympics and NBA finals. But letting them share our public schools, propping them up so they can breed like crazy and dilute our populationn- this will be the ruination of America and the civilized western world.
no blacks may not be as intelligent as whites. we were only intelligent enough to create or invent most of the things that makes your life easier.. and as far as violence goes, if blacks were half as evil as whites, we would be in a full-fleged civil war right not. the problems with blacks are that we are a submissive race and we turn the oppression that other are inflicting on us against our selves. white folks are evil with white women being the leaders.. watch dateline and 48 hrs mystery who does all the killing for the money......
don't listen to this idiot. i'm a white male and know that there is no correlation between race and intelligence. this guy is an insecure bigot who hides behind the keyboard to spew his ignorance.
You forgot that Europeans were cannibals and barbarians. The Balkans,hittler,Lenin,Stalin,,Serbia,etc.etcdont get me started. Swallow your selective edits. Sin is found in the hearts of all poeple
That was the best post I have read all day.
Nikki, I think you've made a good point. Living in the SF Bay Area, I have family/friends/colleagues/customers/suppliers of all types. I also pay attention to the news and current affairs. From what I can tell, no race appears to have a monopoly on stupidity or cruelty. You rightly point out the Nazis, someone else would rightly point out Hutu/Tutsi, Mao, Pablo Escobar, General Ishi or Idi Amin. Unfortunately, haters can be well financed and organized. They also attract more news coverage. The athletic events I attend where my youngest son runs or plays basketball often have hundreds of kids (of all types) competing. No racial BS, crime... or news cameras. Be well.
Not long before those who are racist like you are gone. The younger generation doesn't think this way, thankfully. You are only an embarrassment. Study history. Look at what Europeans and white people have done. Certainly whites have great accomplishments but we also have very shameful parts of our history. History won't be a kind judge to people like you. Well, already your type is seen as a very sad chapter of humans. What to you do to make things good in the world, to bring love and peace to others other than hate?
Hey let's face a little reality here: Anyone know the name of the first American man to die upon being shot by the hands of the British?
Not to discredit the Wizard of the KKK, but there is that possibility that Jesus Christ of (middle eastern) Nazareth may not have been completely "white".
well said... and very true...
Kind of contradictory ... but then again... Religion in general does not have its hands clean either...
Marco, has it occurred to you that if you allowed yourself to be drawn into a battle of wits with an obdurate race supremacist, (in light of the wealth of contemporary genetic study), you might be found guilty of assaulting an unarmed person??
I dont discriminate, and would hire either an uneducated tea bag or a hick clansmen to scrub my homes toilets provided they prostrate themselves and address my eliteness as "My Lord". Legislation must be introduced stripping tea bag KKK members of the right to vote or own property, so that their filth be contained, fulfilling God's wish for humanity.
breaking news to you, kkk was founded and still is dominated by democrats
So sayers the Lord: "Giveth the Tea Bagger dullard the basest of jobs, polishing the septic tank, so that he may grow in his humility." Corinthians 14:2
And Lincoln was a Republican, yet NO repubs look, act like, or as intelligent as Lincoln was. It's not the same GOP as are the dems nothing like the ones you degrade today. History isn't your strong suit is it?
I'm glad that I'm reading so many outraged comments especially from white people. The KKK is a terrorist organization that have killed blacks, jews and gays and support segregation. I hate when people say "well what about NAACP" are you kidding me? NAACP is not a terrorist organization. Show me evidence where they salute Hitler and kill people. You won't find it. I'm glad that a lot of white people don't respect these organizations like the KKK anymore. Makes me proud to be an American.
That is because you get all your information from Jewish media, which wanted the KKK disbanded and ridiculed because it was an organization that would never have tolerated the crap that Zionists have perpetrated on this country.
I don't understand the concept of "being proud to be white." I'm white and am neither proud nor ashamed of it. That's like saying, "I'm proud to be right handed." Why is the color of your skin anything to be proud of? And if your greatest accomplishment in life is that you are white, then what does that say about you? Also, the kinder, gentler Ku Klux Klan has decided to rename itself. They now call themselves The Tea Party.
From Wikipedia –
Veritas: In Roman mythology, Veritas, meaning truth, was the goddess of truth, a daughter of Saturn and the mother of Virtue. It was believed that she hid in the bottom of a holy well because she was so elusive. Her image is shown as a young virgin dressed in white. Veritas is also the name given to the Roman virtue of truthfulness, which was considered one of the main virtues any good Roman should possess. In Greek mythology, Veritas was known as Aletheia.
This Latin word "veritas" now appears in the mottos of many colleges and universities. It is typically capitalized in mottos (as "Veritas") for being an ideal (such as: Truth, Kindness and Beauty).
What you speak is the pure, unadulterated truth. Couldn't have said it better myself!
Thanks for your post!
Well, jump right on the Ignorance Wagon – you are not the first fool to compare the KKK with the Tea Party (and probably will not be the last), but the comparison is still ignorant, bordering on stupidity.
Are you saying your loyalty to your group/race is only skin deep?
Your character might wrongly lead you to believe race is only skin deep. You shouldn't use the depth of your loyalty to your race as a measure of judging the uniqueness and value of any race.
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white. Anti=white support white genocide.
Kinder, gentler, Klan, using silk ropes for lynchings.
I live in a rural area and I'm a lawyer. The pigs are offended and intend to sue you.
Why couldn't we all just be gray.... it'd be a lot easier.
At least they are honest with their views, unlike the GOP, where racism is more profound but in order to grab the votes of some naive blacks and hispanics...it is left coded...
The Ku Klux Klan is less bigoted than the Republican Party.
I wouldn't go that far, but the KKK is far less bigoted than Obama's reverend for 20 years, and his close personal friend, Rev Jeremiah Wright. We know that much. Barack learned a lot from him, as he said himself in his book.
And yet it was the Democratic Party that was attempting to preserve slavery, wasn't it?
We don't hate anyone, we just want to be part of a group that hates everyone that isn't white.
If it was a group dedicated to terrorizing and killing people of different races, probably not.
Very simply put, other races never did organize in groups with the sole intention of killing white people. For example me being Asian do not organize to kill white or black people or people of any race. The KKK did do that. That's the difference between the KKK and another organization of a particular race.
I'm guessing your a member right? If you think your going to change anyone's opinions by posting anonymously on the internet your wrong. Go away.
No back during colonial times the Tutsi's were put in charge of ruling the Hutu's. When he Europeans left the Hutu's sought revenge.
What's NAACP stand for?
Never Acuse A Colored Person
If that were true there would be a lot less of us in prison.
It stands for people with since, and not the minority in a couple of years
Since? How do you think 18% of the population will become the majority in a couple of years?
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
KKK: imbeciles who don't know the definition of a human being.
If they aren't about publicity and just want the highways cleaned then no one is stopping them from heading out there and cleaning it up! You don't have to adopt the highway to pick up garbage. So, have at it KKK! Your actions through out the years haven't shown what you are saying. So, start acting and stop talking.
Sam could be said about any group that participates in this adopt-a-highway program, so I'm not sure what your point is.
I agree with you that anyone could go out there and clean up a highway. Other organizations who adopt a highway aren't claiming that they aren't doing it for publicity. Basically, they are buying a sign by the side of the road, probably within their advertising (aka publicity) budget. So, for them to LIE about it not being about publicity is a crock.
Signed up today. I like the feeling of being part of something that represents white interests - so often nowadays the focus is only on making sure minorities get ahead. I am not a minority, and I have children that I want to have the same opportunities.
Don't forget to get yourself one of those stylish white sheets. Those KKK guys are just a hoot – always wanting to help everybody out.
White people can join the NAACP. Can black people join the KKK? Doubt it.
Actually some group do accept black men, alot of groups have black chapters, but they r kept silent,, so that they may be used as spies,,belive it r not there r black people that cant stand there own race
Let the Klan show there heads and l will feast on their brains
Its easy to make run of a powerless group. its also easy to feel self-righteous about it.
Doesn't make you wonder about the average American who likes to do this?
"Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White Countries for Everybody
Annihilation by Assimilation
Every white country on earth is supposed to become multicultural and multiracial. EVERY white country is expected to end its own race and end its own culture. No one asks that of ANY non-white country.
The final solution to the RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to bring in the third world and assimilate with them.
Immigration, tolerance, and especially assimilation are being used against the white race.
All this immigration and intermarriage is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries."
Nobody mentions tihs.
ya know,, i dont even know where to start, as a matter of fact,, i dont even know what you just said,, wow
Poor sad whites....
They raped and murdered my people for 400 years under slavery...
tens of millions of my people for centuries...
And you poor thing you want a white country all for yourself- after you stole me and mine from my country and made us your slaves- now poor you... just wanna be left all alone to have- opportunity...
poor downtrodden whites.
My heart bleeds for the poor sad whites. Made war on or enslaved every other group on Earth- .... the very reason your HERE in America is you stole someone elses land and murdered nearly every single tribe of the native Americans.
Nearly to extinction.
But poor sad whites- they just wanna be left alone. Its so sad- they have stolen and raped and robbed for so long- that they are everywhere... and now- they just want to be left alone.
Wonder if that's how the native Americans felt when the white people "assimilated" to America.
This is not a "white country" dude. It is a "whitened" country. Just like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are whitened. As for Europe, if white folks can come to Africa on gunpoint and settle there, the Africans cans go to Europe on immigration. If you don't like that stop the immigration and bring all the folks back from South Africa, Zimbabwe, Namibia, and the entire East Africa.
The NAACP was founded advance people who lived in a Jim Crow soceity. Segregation was legal there were white can colored drinking fountains. Separatre section in movie theatres no access to public facilities. To ever compare the Klan is absurd. the Klan was a terrorist organization that was scanctioned by the state to lynch and murder at will to fite bomb churches and burn crosses to incite terror in their fellow citizens. They think people forget that. Are they so ignorant they do not know what their robes symbolize.
Exactly.The ultimate traitor is the white Liberal progressive.
i was just gonna say the very same thing :- /
Interesting part of our history. So whats the problem if they want to pick up trash?? I see worse on TV News every evening.
Let them "sponsor" a stretch of road and be sure to mark it so I'll know where to throw my trash.
I'm sure they are hesitant to accept the application because they don't want to be seen as endorsing the KKK or their previous actions, even if that is not the case.
I do believe many of todays Republicans have the same feelings the KKK do only try to hide them.
"We just love white people; white people are our family." Sounds so innocent until you're intimidating minorities to keep them from moving into your neighborhoods and blackballing minority businesses. It's all innocent until minorities can't be in your schools or country clubs. It's all innocent until you're using political power to suppress minorities or "preserve the white race" –whatever you want to call it. It's all innocent until you're killing the people who dare to protest the blatant injustices you helped create. Black pride, the Panthers, the Black Muslims and even this godwaful mindless hip hop culture are all direct and indirect effects of the creation of the KKK. You idiots took "black hate" called it "white love" and made it a group activity. You should be ashamed but you're not. I won't support you, I won't acknowledge you and I won't condone you. If you ever step foot on my property, I will shoot you dead. Thanks for nothing.
You guys can go to hell. "White love." Pfft. Love the human race and be done with it.
Has anyone mentioned white genocide to you?
How does that relate to all those highly charges issues and talking points you have brought up?
"Africa for Africans
Asians for Asians
White Countries for EVERYONE?!
There will still be Africans in Africa
There will still be Asians in Asia
But my race is set to be blended out of existence through mass immigration and forced assimilation
This is happening in ALL White countries and ONLY White countries
This is GENOCIDE through racial replacement."
except America didn't belong to the white man. America belonged to the native americans who passed over the Bering Strait from Asia.. but aside from that.. America has ALWAYS been, since the first explorers set foot on it a melting pot of different cultures.. if you wanna say "Africa is for Africans" then go back to Europe because that's where anglo-saxons came from.. but AMERICA is for AMERICANS..
But hey, if they wanna adopt a highway, let them.. it's more money towards the D.O.T and less maintenance work for them to do. I'm sure the NAACP probably has a highway adopted somewhere or the Black Panthers.. same concept..
No one is FORCING you to interracial marriage, so any assumptions of that are perceived.
White genocide, please go back and read any article you must, the rightful owners of this sooooo called Ameican are coming back to take their land back.
There are always many lame arguments to justify white genocide.
What you don’t realize is that White people have not consented to having our borders opened to non-White immigration…period. This is something that has been FORCED down the throats of White people and ONLY White people. We have been systematically targeted for a particular form of genocide, in this case a force-assimilation.
Whites people have not consented to being assimilated out of existence, that's what makes this a genocide.
Anti-racist is a codeword for ANTI-WHITE.
wow...hear ye hear ye! What the hey. Humans in general are just pathetic. Don't get me wrong; I love my family dearly and will do anything to keep them safe and away of harms way. But all this stuff of white, black, red...damn it people...we are all made out of the same stuff that made the stars in the sky. Dumb, smart, stupid, cannibals and what have you.
More good points that will be lost on the ignorant masses, but your opinion is spot on the money!
Sadly, we are still running around in the muck and mire of this issue. And we are all more and more deminished by it. The white race along with all the other races have contributed greatly to our world and place in the universe. White people have never been alone on this earth or this continent and if the KKK in whatever form it wishes to take in the present or future think that white people can stand alone in this time and place, then sadly those who count themselves among them are fools.
I know this is not about the kkk but i sure am glad I got yahoo mail & that useless yahoo page off my computer. This page (CNN) is much better. I just needed some decent news. GOOD RIDDANCE YAHOO.
I am reminded of the Apostle Paul's words: "Beware of those who come among you disguised as sheep, but who inwardly are ravening wolves . . ."
We all should look at the larger problem A grope of people in the USA are being denine there freedom of speech .does not matter if we like what they say or not.We should defind there right to say what they want to.I think that its sad that nobody gets that.THIS IS THE LAND OF THE FREE.
You are right. Sadly, most of our fellow citizens have been brainwashed to act and think like drones.
We have a lot of work to turn this around.
How many KKK are there and of those how many aren't undercover a US agents?
Compare the numbers with the total population of the USA and you see how insignificant the KKK is.
BUT, it is a convenient thing to keep the fire stoked on anti-white hatred. There is a lot of anti-white hatred and bias going around.
"Anti-whites lie about the danger the white race faces in the 21st century: rapidly growing non-white populations, rapidly declining white populations, plus massive invasion of non-whites into white homelands. Why is this not a formula for disaster? How is this not a worldwide program of white genocide?
A war against the white race is called WHITE GENOCIDE. It is supported by anti-whites. FORCE and FRAUD are virtues in the success of war. FORCE: massive immigration, integration, tolerance, assimilation; FRAUD: denial of genocide, spinning obvious realities in support of white genocide.
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white."
"savethechildren" paints a disturbingly lurid and xenophobic view of his/her place in the world of humankind. Make sure you look under your bed each night at bedtime, my friend-the boogeyman may be there to grab you.
Sadly, you are part of the anti-white cadre who supports the program of the anti-white global elites and their ongoing project of white genocide.
You might call me crazy but others notice you won't touch the issue of white genocide become you have no answer to the obvious actions being taken against my race.
Good work for the anti-white global elites, they need your help.
Also, consider that the rambling rant of our friend "savethechildren" blissfully ignores the historical evidence of global behaviour by some towards others. A "kinder/gentler KKK" is ian oxymoron which I believe the author intended it to be seen as.
Why would the elites want to do away with us? we are their most profitable flock. We work harder, longer, are more innovative, we fall for all their ruses used to get us to fight their wars for them to have access to everything there is in this world. Do they think china will do the same for them? Or the Africans? Or the muslims? maybe the hispanics up until it comes to going off to obvious colonial exercises. In stable enthic communities I usually never have to carry personal protection. I can think nothing of going out for a walk at 2 am and getting a pop and a snack from a store. Now in this fractured and traumatized society that is getting harder. Every people has a right to a home, culture and a place in the world. Those things are listed in the universal declaration of human rights. So why is the globe state violating its own bill of rights against its most productive and loyal population?
If they want to feel so important, then I want to restart the Illuminati group. Hell, at least they had better ideas and it benefitted all different types of races. HECK WITH HITLER, HAIL ILLUMINATI!!!!! LMAO (JK about the illuminat btw).
If it wasn't for this publicity and the potential publicity by a road sign for road cleaning, what if any younger generations of the U.S. would know of the KKK.... nothing. Lets keep it that way.
if you dont know history you are doomed to repete it
There is a lot of anti-white bias and hatred being spread around.
Who could be more psychotic than someone who supports white genocide.
Anti-whites lie about the danger the white race faces in the 21st century: rapidly growing non-white populations, rapidly declining white populations, plus massive invasion of non-whites into white homelands. Why is this not a formula for disaster? How is this not a worldwide program of white genocide?
A war against the white race is called WHITE GENOCIDE. It is supported by anti-whites. FORCE and FRAUD are virtues in the success of war. FORCE: massive immigration, integration, tolerance, assimilation; FRAUD: denial of genocide, spinning obvious realities in support of white genocide.
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.
Sounds like that is what who would like to call white people.
An anti-racist attacks white people with racist accusation usually without any basis. Sinc ethey spend all their time trying to find whites that they can accuse of racism, it makes this statement true:
ANTI-RACIST IS A CODEWORD FOR ANTI-WHITE.
Pray tell, where are these white homelands of which you speak? Has to be somewhere in Eastern Europe, because we all know ALL the Americas belong to people of color.
I think you need to look up the definition of genocide....
In white countries when you force/coerce/ socially engineer IMMIGRATION, integration, tolerance & blending of races, in the end you have a non-white population left.just a matter of time. Its white genocide.
“Genocide involves the attempt to achieve the disappearance of a group by whatever means. It does not have to be violent, it could be a combination of policies that would lead to a certain group dying out.”
M Fraser-PMinister of Australia 1975-83
How is this not genocide?
We already have the new version of the KKK. They call themselves Republican Conservatives like Romney and Gingrich.
how are they even remotely similar to the KKK?
Actually, Abraham Lincoln was the very first Republican....
Some serious revisionist narrative here. Remember the carnage this group of cowards has caused . . . please.
The KKK at least this particular group and are saying whites are superior, they are only saying they love the white race and cultures, and want to preserve them. They also stated it is ok to be Black and proud, or Latino and proud. However having the KKK brand, and trying to convince people that you do not have bad intentions is an uphill battle.
Whoever put that KKK label on them was powerful and effective. Of course it also maligns all white people. If a white person objects to his racial displacement by non-whites invading the US, he might be called KKK, racist or naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
Its definitely anti-white.
Must be supported by the anti-white global elitists.
The KKK is, and will always be, a hate group. The difference today is that it is illegal for individuals to discriminate at work so they pretend to be friendly in the workplace, but in reality they hate people who are not white. I would much rather face a KKK member from the 1970s than a KKK member today. At least you knew where you stood with people who were proudly members of the KKK. Today they are much more secretive. I have been the target of the KKK before. It was about 18 years ago and it shook me to the core at the time. I am older and wiser now and the Klan doesn't scare me but a fly-off-the handle kind of member does concern me. These groups attract members who are extreme in many of their viewpoint. Extremists often get tired of the group think and want to go it alone to show the world what they think. Thank God for the Southern Poverty Center for faithfully following hate groups such as the KKK!
Anti-whites love to attack the KKK because they can malign all white people at the same time. Sad some whites are so dumb they fall into the stereotype created for them by the MSM and others and role play the part.
So little racism that these dirty tactics need to be used to keep the anti-white industry fully employed.
Just like George Zimmerman, a non-white who had to be made a white, so a white person could be blamed for hate.
Nobody mentions how many white people have now been assaulted seriously as a result of this anti-white action of the MSM and the other anti-white globalist toadies.
This is and was a murderous gang. Too late to try to reinvent themselves now. For all the flack the Black Panthers caught in the 70s and 80s, lynching white people was never part of their agenda. This is the only group out there proclaiming "racial self-love" that has a history of murders, intimidation, threats, arson, and assaults on Blacks specifically in the South. Shame on them for trying to pretend those were isolated incidents. That was doctrine. The irony of it all is that phrases like "white pride" and "white power" ONLY have a stigma because of the KKK. If these godawful people never came into existence nobody would hear those words and be offended. They made the one drop rule, not minorities. If they wrote it the other way around with love instead of hate we'd be calling Obama a white man. Klansmen: many of your daughters will marry Africans, Hispanics and Asians if you ever let them out of that backwoods hut you call a trailer. Many of your grandchildren will be smarter, less likely to sunburn and well-endowed. Get over it, embrace the future, learn to love, learn to relate.
"Weren't not racist, we only want to be around other white people" Huh????
Exactly. Shows how ignorant they actually are.
there is a difference between the True Klan and the racist Klan, the True Klan was formed as a social organization as a away for whites to be together and yes possible protection from the newly freed slaves in which there was fears of retaliation, the fake Klan decieded that they should go out lynch blacks republicians and poloticians, while the true Klan helped rebuild the South. Even in the North, The Klan did wonderful things, in Ohio they built social barns, and halls where everyone was invited, my great grandpa was in the Klan, my grandpa was in the Klan and so was I, one Klan horrible Klan group doesnt mean all the Klan groups are bad, so i am siding with this Klan because they have the makings of the True Klan
Is there still a need for a way for whites to hang together? If you want a social organization, join the Moose Lodge.
And who will make the distinction between what you feel is the true Klan and the bad Klan? If the true Klan is so different, maybe they should change their name.
THE NEW KLAN.
Skunks don't change their smell. They all smell the same.
Anti-whites have won this battle ground. No matter how reasonable you sound, they will try to make you a racist for setting forth correct history. Anti-whites are malicious.
"Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
Africa isnt trying to make itself nonblack via a policy of mass non-black immigration and assimilation
Asia isnt trying to make itself non-Asian via a policy of mass non-Asian immigration and assimilation
But EVERY white country has the policy of mass non-white immigration and
assimilation, yet no white country ever voted to become a non-white
Anti-whites want all white countries to be blended, brown countries: white genocide via mass non-white immigration and assimilation.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
When someone is talking about racism, they are really talking about white people and their basic guilt and crimes against all other races, which is promotion of white genocide."
True Klan sounds like a great party to join.
Too bad they hang non-white members.
Are they connected to the mormons? See in the mormons "certain" groups dont have a soul.
Are mormons "True Klan"?
So the Taliban builds things too. So did the cocaine cowboys.... so did Hitler... So... I guess if you "build" things you are a "good ole boy" and deserve to just have overlooked all the killings and rapes and burnings of business and homes that you do.
they think whites are superior? they shoud watch the nba finals or the summer olympics and try to find a white person than
The KKK at least this particular group and are saying whites are superior, they are only saying the love the white race and cultures, and want to preserve them. They also stated it is ok to be Black and proud, or Latino and proud. However having the KKK brand, and trying to convince people that you do not have bad intentions is an uphill battle.
What exactly are they superior at?
The stuff they keep others from learning? Like reading? Learning?
What are they superior at? That- given exposure- other groups also couldnt accel at?
I can't wait til my folks get heavily into science and math.... Neil DeGrassey the black astrophysicist is leading a new charge- we'll see spiking in a decade... sports, business, politics... some folks -get exposed to things and they start leading....
and some folks suppress everything and then tell us they are masters of everything- but then they feel- like the world is picking on them when their oppression is lifted and other groups flourish. They take it as a personal affront to themselves and their group- if another group refuses to comply with the stereotypes they have labeled them as.
They get mad when the world doesnt conform to their rhetoric and the KKK is and extension of that anger... "when folks wont stay in their place"- I mean the world doesn't want to know- blacks can do everything whites can... or Latinos can do everything whites can or asians can do everything whites can... to "some" whites- the world is standing on its head with Black Presidents and Doctors and lawyers and CEOs and athletes and ....ad infinitum...
are just everywhere- and that isnt the way they want it.
Awwwwww. Now an apology for all those smoldering crosses on people's lawns.
"We do not burn the cross, we light the cross to show that Christ is the light of the world."
Hey Bubba, what is it that you don't understand what "burn" is?
You wrap the cross in bed sheets, add gasoline or diesel, then put a torch to it and it doesn't BURN?
Why not put christmas lights on it, if you are so inclined?
The brown people murdered dead in a tree not far from the cross always confused me- in the KKK message of Christian Love and understanding.
Kinder gentler? NOT.....
why are the horses covered in picture #2?
stupid clan members
what other horses would turn them in? LMFAO
so you can't identify the horse... like painting your car...
Horses (and subsequently their owners) are easily identifiable.
Of course.... none of them knew about forensical identification of the little horse hoof prints! Back then... and now... called "tracking identification". Every farrier does every shoe a wee bit different....
They claim they do good things although none were mentioned in the article. If they want to clean a highway, go clean it. You don't have to adopt it to show goof faith. I see trash, I pick it up, just reflex. Put a sign up if you want, This Highway was Cleaned By Christians of The KKK. Prove yourself.
My daughter is dating a wonderful african-american boy- as are the majority of her classmates in highscool. I think this is great cause in a few years when they all have children it will make race meaningless.
I'm not into race engineering.
I think people should love whoever they want to- and we should all leave it at that.
A kinder, gentler Ku Klux Klan is an oxymoron.
The KKK should be banned and outlawed, since it is a terrorist organization. It should not be permitted to exist.
Not to defend the KKK or any other hate organization, but you can no more outlaw them as you can the Black Panthers.
The Black Panthers is always the same four guys in leather handing out pamphlets.
The bullhorn telling people to rise up is scary isnt it?
To the person that made the comment about the black panthers, The black panthers fought for equal rights and justice, the KKK killed equal rights and justice. Read your history.
But nice try.
The KKK and Black Panther party are completely different.. again Black Panthers were trying to get justice, better education and equality, etc.. the KKK are about being a superior race... degrading others.. Not comparable!
The NEW Black Panther Party are NOT the same as the original Black Panther Party and are NOT respected by most people of color!
Is it about the KKK or just that you hate white people? All races have flaws, but you point out the flaws of whites. I call that anti-white.
Maybe they'll put the yellow smiley faces with the "Have A Nice Day" slogan on the back of their outfits like in Blazing Saddles.
The Democratic Party's KKK, was a terrible idea when it was founded, as it is now. Just as bad an idea as the Black Congressional Caucus, the NAACP, Black Panthers, and other race specific organizations.
The Ku Klux Klan deserves support from African Americans every bit as much as the democratic Party does.
@ObammySucks..... I guess you don't realize that the Democrats at the time the KKK was founded are now today's Republicans.... Read more books!!! Obama 2012
Well said Jessica.
Don't spread the lie.
the last kkk member served in congress was Robert Byrd , a democrats – THE longest serving democrats in senate until his death.
KKK was founded by democrats, was and still is dominated by democrats
Ok, the mods didn't like my first attempt at a post. It's unfortunate that you can't use the words written in the article itself to make a comment about it. I think people here are missing the point of the article. They want to clean up a highway. How many of you will be on that highway and see them or the little sign saying they cleaned it? Do any of YOU want to clean it up? Regardless of their beliefs, there's no reason to not let them pick up trash. Would we tell the NAACP that they can't clean up a highway because some of us aren't members?
However, i also have trouble taking an "imperial wizard" seriously. And though i doubt they'd pick up the trash in their white robes, it would be hilarious if they did.
"We just want to be with white people" What does that even mean?
Just like every neighborhood that becomes majority African American- all of the white people leave. I do not condone this, and I actually tried to stay in a community that became minority white a number of years ago but was forced to leave because the schools became unsafe for my children. This is why we need to start bussing students into different communities again- unless African American children get exposed to successful schools the pattern will continue. And I'll admit the pattern is only the fault of white people.
I don't believe there is a kinder, gentler KKK. I don't like that there is a KKK. However, I think that any group that wants to make our nation cleaner by picking up garbage on the highway should be allowed to do so. I think that not permitting them to do so violates their rights. As Americans, they have the right to believe whatever they want and to gather and talk about it and to keep out those they don't want to be part of their group. Do I think these groups (I'm not only talking about the KKK) that exclude certain races are good? No. But everyone has the right to form such a group.
They are more than welcome to pick up trash. Their intent is just to publicize their venom covertly. Boy Scouts and other civic groups have joined together to clean up highways. Any group that espouses hate against another race or group of people should be exterminated. The New Black Panther party is no better.
The difference between the Black Panthers (new or old) and the Klan (new or old) is the Panthers do a lot of talking, whereas the only history the Klan has is that of extreme violence against Black people, Jews, and Catholics.
Their right as what? Terrorists? That's what they are and always have been. They have purposefully terrorized Black people for over half a century. They have lynched us, burn our property, ran us out of town. And you want to afford them some rights? Not if I can help it.
What are you saying?
Idocricy at it's finest. A " kinder, gentler KKK" laughable.
KKK should be banned to say to Saudi Arabia where hate of other people is ok– Abdel's country. Let them clash there. Historically KKK do not just hate people of color but are famous for their antisemitic activities and harsh views of any people who do not share their way of thinking. This world does not have any room for them.
Nothing wrong with the Klan. We muslims hate all non- muslims too and the liberals still respect and love us. So why can't the clan hate non-whites? That's hypocritical.
umm, what? i just,, what?
Way to troll, there Abdel!
Spoke like a typical Republican pretending to be a Muslim.
LOL!!! So true!
racism isnt a black thing or a white thing or a color thing. its a "people thing". people hating or not liking other people for whatever reason. Today it's race, tomorrow it'll be religion, then something else after that. Race is just one of many venues for one person to not like another. The sad thing is that it's lasted so long. Through some of this country's darkest times where we as a nation have had to stand up as one, racism still exists once we've gotten past whatever crisis threatens us. not because of color, not because of race, simply because its easier to hate than to forgive and love.
What do you mean tomorrow it will be religion? That's been occurring for a couple of millennia.
I say let them have the highway. I could use a new place to throw my used trojans, dog waste bags, used diapers...I could dance all day with this one!
Your handle seems disingenuous and your posts ridiculous. Imablack isn't... either black or to be taken seriously.
I doubt he knows what that even means. Don't even waste your keystrokes.
Apparently the KKK will no longer take your baby away.
i heard they was given white babies away so they can eventually get der white families out the trailer parks
Your a idiot
Honestly, I really can't even believe that there are legitmate discussions going on about this. The KKK is a TERRORIST GROUP. Have you forgotten history? If a group of Nazis or Osama bin Laden's ghost wanted to fix a road, would you be talking about "giving second chances"? The KKK murdered hundreds of black AND white men, women, and CHILDREN. What planet are you guys living on? Its not a matter of wheter or not it's okay to have white pride, its a matter of giving a terrorist group legitimacy in our country today. It seems as though everyone has forgotten about the innocent lives that were lost. This is the exact reason that blacks feel the need to form their own support groups!
The Catholic church has murdered hundreds if not thousands of people yet I am willing to bet that there are plenty of religious groups and organizations that have adopted highways.
That's not a significant comparison....
I agree with you, Julia. I also have to say, this IS NOT a legitimate discussions forum. It keeps every conversation scattered and disjointed and prevents honest discussion of issues. If I had to describe this forum, I'd call it "Tower Of Babel" as it is designed to scatter every discussion to the wind and make this a brief and simple screeching of opinions and facts never to get a chance to be heard and fairly considered and then have an actual debate... it's limited to ONLY momentary and often ridiculous opinion.... and when that opinion's shown wrong, that's whisked away never to be seen again. This forum's format is a FAIL, and while I badly want to have a substantive dialogue with you that others can see, this format actively works against that, so I'm sorry we have no way to speak to either each other or the greater audience that would benefit from this discussion if we could engage in it.
Personally, I'm not one to hold the sin's of the father against the son. If I were, I'd be holding a grudge against any person in the U.S. who has no Native blood in them. I've not heard of any call for violence originating from the KKK, and even heard them reprimand that one church that was behind the Koran burning. I for one think there is a good chance that at least some of the modern KKK groups are genuinely peaceful nowadays. I for one feel that the New Black Panthers are a more violent group and more deserving of the "Terrorist" tag.
how u gonna call black panthers terrorists? we had some fools that went down to da south and spoke out bout somethin they shouldn't have. Dat don't mean they terrorists. All dem groups are isolationists not terrorists. by dis articles own words kkk is nothing more den a bunch of isolationists who refuse to move forward, same can be said fer da black panthers and fil-am association and any other race driven groups.
Of is a very legitimate discussion. Did u not hear what he said about rogue members and they don't believe in harming anyone. If everyone would just give them a chance to prove it. They only want to protect their families and ensure that America wont go to pot (we are pretty much there). Its the blacks that will riot and try to destroy them because they will be offended. Whites are offended all the time but we don't go crazy and act like hoodrats.
When is the next article on the Black Panthers?
Instead of envisioning some “kinder, gentler” form of ignorance, bigotry and stubborn intolerance, why not commit yourselves to being kind, gentle, loving, compassionate, merciful and just?
After all that’s what Jesus taught. He taught us to love our neighbor, as ourselves.
Jesus even taught us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us.
Why not follow his divine example and instructions?
True Barry but that isn't all that the Bible [strictly New Testament] teaches or is implied.
I do pray for my enemies but trust is a whole different factor. I do believe the best but that doesn't mean I will turn a blind eye either. That isn't a lack of compassion or even love. That is wisdom which is of God as well for God is also Wisdom.
I've done research on these guys for one of my college class. What CNN needs to understand that they are using their "we just want to live with our fellow white folks in peace, we don't hate anyone" is just a front to make them look good when in reality they are still instilling a strong message of hate. They are now relying on racist skinheads to do the hate jobs for them.
Why don't you just ask Him yourself and be receptive to how He makes Himself known to you.
In the 1990's, The KKK was sued by an African family after a beating in which the victim died....if they try it again, I'm sure every Catholic, Jewish and Bl;ack person would sue them again – it's against the LAW you fools and as a white Catholic woman, it would be my duty to protest this organizatiion and the cowards who hide behind their sheets. Just listen to Billie Holidays' song Strange Fruit about a lynching in the South and if you don't cry afterwards, you deserve the same treatment.
Makes you wonder if the NAACP would have the same outcome ?
Catholics are not Christian? they don't confess the Jesus as lord and savior? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ya, cuz the first 1500 years of Christianity people didn't believe that Jesus was savior! wait for it.......................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I honestly didn't think people like you existed. Who do you think put the bible together??? then you say baptists aren't either?? that too away the protestant angle...and their bibles....just where are you coming from????
Read again Mikey.
Please find where Jesus or even St. Paul used the term "catholic, bapist, etc"?
We are one church – either you are in Christ or you are not. All the other labels are man made; not Christ made.
So what your saying is that any person that identifies with a specific denomination is not Christian (e.g: Catholicism & Baptists per your reference). even though said denominations accept Jesus as their savior (which by your account, defines what Christianity is)
You said that Catholics and baptists are not Christian...but it appears, by your argument, that they both define what Christianity is.
So, either you haven't really thought this out,....or.........well you haven't thought it out and you did a really bad job paraphrasing some off the wall book you read or some sermon you pastor gave you.
Are you talking about all being part of the universal church? Catholicism definition is: Universal...FYI
No that isn't what I am saying nor did I suggest that. You can spin it however you like but the terms we use to identify ourselves weither it be "non-denomational' or whatever are irrelevant when compared to scripture. Paul addressed this issue when some followed Peter, others Apollos, even himself.
My question to you is – why are you defending the label? Are you a Catholic or are you a Christian? Are you "non-denomational or are you a Christian? Whatever you defend the most is what you identify yourself with. I mean the whole argument on this entire board is people who identify themselves by their skin color and yet they are so much more then that. Yet folks cling to it. I'm white and proud – I'm black and proud. I'm catholic, I'm lutheran, blah blah.
How about – I am a Christian who loves Jesus and purposes to love those who He created.
Why defend a man made label?
A Klansman can take off his traditional garb and put on a fancy suit, but what’s underneath is unchanged.
I would like an african american person's opinion on this: Would you be offended to see caucasion scholarships or a NAACP-type organization for white people?
I'm white and I definitely believe that would be racist.
Us white people have enough privelage just because of the color of our skin. We need to overturn the hundreds of years of oppression of people of color by offering them a hand, not by pushing our already advantaged children ahead.
Even an economically disadvantaged white child has a leg up on a rich African American child, and we must make this right and atone for the injustices of the past, the injustices that are still going on to this very day.
That's not true. I don't know where you're from, but where I'm from we have "affirmative action." If a company is hiring and they don't have their 'ratio' filled, then they will actually hire a black man over a white man based on his skin color.
And scholarships SHOULD be based just on merit ALONE, but you cannot deny that there are race-based scholarships.
"Even an economically disadvantaged white child has a leg up on a rich African American child"
That is a load of ____. Money is all that matters in today's society.
This isn't about rich versus poor. So what if you would be offended. A lot of whites I'm sure would welcome an organization to defend white rights. I know I've been waiting for one. There are plenty of poor white kids in this world who need scholarships too. Geez!
How about just scholarships based on merit? Good grades, etc etc.
You do understand of course why scholarships based on race exist though right?
If you ignore that then you need to re-evalute your question. This stuff doesn't exist in a vacuum.
I am black and I feel like it would be racist to have scholarships just for white people. Black people need their own scholarships because we are already put at an automatic disadvantage just by being born black. My mother's doctor is white. He is his family's 5th generation doctor. There is no black person in this country who can say that they are a 5th generation doctor. We were freed from slavery with next to nothing and ever since have been working our way up. It makes sense that if we are lucky and smart enough to get into college, we should at least have scholarships that are set aside just for people like us.
But slavery was abolished almost 150 years ago. At some point you have to quit blaming that. It happened and it is a horrible stain on our history, but it's over. You have every single right that I do. The majority of white people are NOT born into wealth.
I don't think I would be offended. Unfortunately, the history of White's always being in leadership roles, makes it difficult for that type of scholarship to be necessary. How would "white" be classified though?
It shouldn't. Neither should just being black. They should be based on hard work and grades. But I graduated from a very small town, every black student was given about $5000 for school just because.
Every black student? I doubt it. 10 to 1 you didn't ask those black students either and even if they did get it – do you know why?
I went to a small town also and out of almost 700 kids was one of seven black students. So if all of us got scholarships [I had a 3.5+ GPA, honors, etc – AP classes, played sports, got a 31 on my ACT and 1100 on my SAT didn't think anyone owed me a thing] and I didn't get a scholarship – got loans.
You might want to do more research.
Astounded...Yes, every. There were 8 of them and we had a big assembly and they were 'awarded' them in front of us. They recieved it because of an organization there who gives money to black kids for college.
I got a full scholarship based on my academic abilities. Yes, I also had the AP classes, 30 on my ACT, graduated with honors, graduated with college credits already behind me. And no, I didn't believe anyone owed me anything. I worked hard.
I'm not as stupid as you think I am.
I'm not suggesting that you are stupid but you sound angry. And anger is often the beginning of hate. And hate makes people stupid no matter how smart they may be.
Those 8 black kids got a scholarship – that is all you really know based on your comments. You should celebrate that 8 more kids get a chance to go college; not be angered over the means in how it was accomplished. 8 more kids going to school is better then 8 less kids not going; losing hope and being a burden to society, right?
Color has zero to do with my example; but your response seems to be strictly motivated by it. My question is do you feel slighted? You got a full ride – I scored better then you on my ACT and didn't get a single scholarship and no "organization" came to my assistance. So how can you cry foul play?
Ashley, where are you getting your information from?
Astounded, I'm not angry, nor do I hate anyone...well...except my ex husband...I would rather them have gone to school to better themselves. Unfortunately only one did. I got a choral scholarship as well as academic because the schools in Arkansas BEG for people to come to them instead of going out of state. I just get tired of people using color as an excuse. We all have the same rights.
Oh, and technically the money was a grant. A wealthier black man in the area set up a grant system in which students of color would get $5000 to go towards college. The only prerequisite for this was to be black. Which is really unfortunate because only one of them used it, and I know of some white kids who would have loved the chance to be considered for that money.
First of all the NAACP is not and never was an all-Black organization. It was founded by a group of Whites, Blacks and Jews and has always had Whites and Jews as members. Furthermore, unlike the KKK, they are not about violence.
Secondly there would be no reason for affirmative action if it weren't for White privilege which still exists. People are mostly judged by what they look like instead of what they know and can do.
You are still ignoring something so I will put it this way.
A bully hits me.
I hit him back.
The bully hits me again and claims self defense.
no, i would not. if the organization helps people then i'm for it. No one race is excluded completely from poverty or hardship and if there are ogranizations that help underprivileged kids to get something they would otherwise not be able to achieve then that's cool to me. So if a white version or whatever ethnic of the NAACP exists and they help white youths or their specific race that cannot help themselves then thats a good thing. honestly, i think we should be helping one another regardless the race. I feel that so much about racism has evolved from what has happened in the past. you would think that in 2012, we as a country would have transcended past something so primative but still hasn't. will there always be some kind of segregation, bigotry, or racism in america? as of right now, i'd have to say yes. do i wish it didn't exist? surely. we are one of the most powerful, advanced countries on the planet and we are looked at by other nations as primative because we hate one another because of skin color. i don't know if this was the answer you were looking for ashley but i just wanted to share my thoughts to your question.
Thank you Paul. I very much agree with you. We shouldn't have to resort to race at this point. We're all Americans right?
Thev've always had the former and didn't see a need for the latter until they realizes their dogma is no longer relevent to even "general" whites.
the misunderstanding is not that whites don't have these things it's that they have restricied non-whites from having them and even codified it under the law. Can you present examples to the contrary?
Did anyone stop to consider that maybe they were born this way?
Born a KKK member? . . . No I never considered that before.
so its ok to be born gay ,,but its not ok to be born a white supremacists??? mmmm now who sounds racist ? i always hear how u cant blame a black man they were born that color,,why r there always excuses for blacks and gays? All the klann really wants is to be able to say whom they live near and work with ,,nothing wrong with that, and actually some klans have a black chapter so ya, some do not discriminate agaisnt blacks, some blacks hate black people too, did anyone see the black girl on tyra banks thats said she was mixed ? and that she hates black people??
Racial peace will not come until white males are no longer in powere.
We'll know we're there when we have mixed the races so much that blue eyes and blonde hair are extinct. Only then will amerikkka be at peace
Last time I checked there is a Black Man running America ? correct me if I am wrong ?
Everyone knows Congress runs the government and blames the President!
Say Bob in America you mom determines your race. His is white. So what we are taliking about here is PERCEPTION. you percieve he's Black, others say he's mixed, still others say he's a muslim and not a citizen. What you and the klan fail to realize is we've been mixing it up since forever. Where, do you suppose, all these light skinned blacks came from before interacial dating and marriage became acceptable? You may have relatives among us and not even know it.
Drop the costumes, drop the cross burnings, and spend a few years taking actions that show a respect for those whose skin is a different color, and then I might listen. They got a lot of years of baggage to undo. It's gonna take a lot more than just coming out one day and saying " Guess what? We're not racists anymore!".
Best comment award.
That's a whole lot of writing to basically say gibberish. I have a book that has talking animals, if I believe it then it must be true.
Just an idea but if you want to be a fraternal group that celebrates being white but is tolerant and embracing of other races...maybe you should create a new one. Think about it like a business. If you buy a business with a bad rep, what's the first thing that a smart owner would do? CHANGE THE NAME!
If you like being white and are not racist towards others, you're NOT KKK.
"A kinder, gentler Ku Klux Klan?"
Yeah, they call it the Tea Party movement.
... in case no one else said it.
wow...I'm just going to say that not a single person is going to take the time to read your post.....keep it short next time.
Saying that we must disregard the KKK because they espouse hate yet we allow Allen Chartock from NPR repeatedly say that America should be only run by people like himself and the Republican party should be destroyed and is evil.....that's ok ? NPR is here for all of us. It is partially funded with public money. This hate organization should be ostracized also. NPR & Chartock are as evil as the KKK...who doesn't have a radio or tv station....
There's a massive difference between allowing a group that exists in opposition to an entire race of people and someone being against a political party. You can disagree with a political party. But it's innapproriate to "disagree" with a race of people who are born into that race. I don't believe anyone should be wiped out but the KKK are against a race. that guy is against republican ideology. huge difference.
It is still hate and in a very big sense more dangerous to our country than the 15 or so Klan members who don't do anything for us to worry about. Chartock and NPR want to change our very existence to their world view. They wouldn't hesitate a second to outlawing anyone who disagrees with them. They also use everyone's money to do it.
Fox News and talk radio say the same things about democrats and liberals every single day. Are they a hate group too? There are always idiots out there that say crazy things to get attention. But it's easy to fix...turn the channel!
Yes but they aren't funded with tax dollars. Fox, MSNBC & CNN are privately held. However, as news organizations they should all stay away from political and personal affiliations because the news should be neutral. Just the facts...no personalities please.
In defense of CNN & Fox, they do not say to destroy any political party like NPR & Allen Chartock. That is another major problem...the air waves are owned by the FCC. The FCC does not allow for this kind of hate.
npr gave up there federal grants last year.they operate on public donations.if you dont like them then dont donate.better yet change the station.
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