Editor's Note: Sumbul Ali-Karamali is the author of The Muslim Next Door: the Qur’an, the Media, and that Veil Thing, and Growing up Muslim: Understanding the Beliefs and Practices of Islam. She is on the steering committee of Women in Islamic Spirituality and Equality and is a member of the Muslim Women’s Global Shura Council, both of which aim to promote women’s rights and human rights from an Islamic perspective.
By Sumbul Ali-Karamali, Special to CNN
(CNN) - My father always told me never to talk about religion, politics, or other people’s children. He was part of a generation of American Muslims who wanted to stay quiet and assimilate into American life and not rock the boat. Growing up in Southern California, I tried to follow his advice.
But after 9/11, I found that I, along with other American Muslims, have had little choice but to talk about religion.
Although countless Muslims have condemned the acts of 9/11 in the United States and worldwide, American Muslims became objects of suspicion.
The 9/11 terrorists broke numerous laws of Islam and were denounced as mass murderers by Islamic religious leaders. Even so, Islam is viewed as a religion preaching violence.
In the aftermath, amidst the fear and anger, many American Muslims realized that the reason Americans were so quick to believe the worst about Muslims after the horrific attacks of 9/11 was that Americans knew little about even the most basic tenets of Islam.
And we realized that if we didn’t explain our beliefs and traditions, then other people would write our stories for us.
Despite our efforts, that’s exactly what has happened.
Although 9/11 did compel some Americans to learn more about Islam, it also triggered a wave of anti-Islam feeling that has burgeoned. And though there have been interfaith initiatives, books on Islam, documentaries, education efforts, and shows like "All-American Muslim," polls show that Americans’ negative views of Islam have increased since 9/11, not decreased.
Such trends cannot help but discourage even the most optimistic of American Muslims; many of us are more fearful now than a decade ago, and entire Muslim communities feel besieged.
Anti-mosque incidents have escalated in recent years. Earlier this summer, a mosque in Joplin, Missouri, burned to the ground. Last year, Roger Stockham was arrested with explosives outside the Islamic Center in Dearborn, Michigan. An arson fire seriously damaged a mosque in Wichita, Kansas, last year. And incidents of mosque vandalism have become more common.
Hate groups have been on the rise, too; one of the most horrific hate crimes was the murder of Shaima Alawadi, a young mother who had received anonymous notes calling her a terrorist.
Almost every Islamic studies professor or speaker I personally know - whether they are Muslim or not - receives hate mail and sometimes death threats.
How has this happened in our country? There are many reasons. It is not simply a lack of information about American Muslims, but also misinformation and, in many cases, outright fabrications about what Islam entails and what Muslims believe. An example of one of the most ridiculous is the assertion that Muslims cannot abide dogs; we are so evil, apparently, that man’s best friend is our enemy. (See Muslims with Dogs, a website that flippantly dispels this nonsense.)
The Center for American Progress issued a report in 2011 which documented a small but extremely well-funded network of anti-Islam fear-mongers who have worked diligently to spread misinformation about Islam. Directly or indirectly, these fear-mongers fomented the “ground zero mosque” hysteria, promoted the film “The Third Jihad,” which the New York Police Department showed as a training video - and was strongly criticized for doing so - and have been responsible for Islamophobic advertisements on public buses all over the country.
This anti-Islam rhetoric has been connected to violence, too: Anders Breivik, who murdered more than 70 people in Norway, cited anti-Islam bloggers numerous times in his manifesto, in which his stance against “Islamization” was a clear theme.
It’s not just a lack of information on Islam that American Muslims have had to battle, it is an increasing body of vitriolic myths and tall tales about Islam and Muslims that we continually have to explain or dismiss.
Particularly frightening is the eagerness with which public figures and political officials have leapt onto the Islamophobia bandwagon. Peter King’s “Muslim radicalization” hearings, Michele Bachmann’s baseless accusations of public officials being linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, and the NYPD’s long-term spying on Muslim communities (which produced no leads) are just several examples of the increasing demonization of every Muslim and, increasingly, the entire religion of Islam.
Rising anti-Islamic sentiment in America troubles Muslims
Islam is the second-largest religion in the world, and Muslims comprise more than one-fifth of the world’s population. No religion can flourish for 1,400 years without being flexible and adaptable.
The defamatory rhetoric directed at Muslims and Islam in this country has little to do with the actual religion or its adherents and everything to do with fear of the Other.
For American Muslims, the past decade has been tumultuous. We have emerged from private life to public life, into the public sphere in an effort to aid understanding between the communities of our multicultural country.
We do it not only for ourselves, but because irrational fear of Islam and Muslims is bad for all Americans: it frays the social fabric of our society; it creates divisions between Americans; it affects the health of our democracy; and it affects the wisdom of our policy choices.
In the last decade, I have encountered numerous Americans who understand this and who, despite the fear-mongers, have made remarkable efforts to connect with Muslims.
Recently, I spoke at a Jewish temple as part of their educational series. They broke into spontaneous applause during my talk on Islam and women, and gave me a standing ovation at the end.
They were one of the many moving examples of generosity and openness I have encountered in the past decade. And that, despite the discouragement and fear, is what gives me hope for the future.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Sumbul Ali-Karamali.
This piece is completely ridiculous and tasteless on this day!! As a New Yorker, an American, a Native American at that, I find it hard to believe that they are the only people chastised for their beliefs. Christian Churches are burned, robbed and terrorized in America all the time, but only the Muslims get the press for it. Come on! Stop breeding hate. There is hate against Christians, Muslims and Jews..the latter takes the care when it comes to the most persecuted.
Worst PC piece CNN have ever posted.
White ignorant? I guess you showed all of us with your tolerance and non-aggressive tone. You are the reason Americans and others around the world will never truly believe Muslims are part of humanity.
On 9-11 this is the article you have on the cover of your website? That's ridiculous.
You have something up remembering the fallen.
Remember just who and what CNN is – just another mouthpiece for the far left.
Jimmie, I am surprised you know your left from your right!
hey – we will never forget. I am not proud of our christian looneys (jerry farwell, jesse jackson, pat robertson, et al.,) but compared to the insane maniacs that lead Islamic peoples around the world – I think we have a right to be a bit paranoid. I realize that it is a small minority that teach radical Islamic principles – and that it is easy to recruit the disenfranchised among Muslim populations. What I don't get – why are there no strong Muslim leaders – seemingly anywhere in the world – that will stand up to this insanity and moderate their own kind? This will eventually come to a nasty end – and from my view – if someone has to lose – it will be the Muslims...good luck to all.
His Highness The Aga Khan=Peaceful Muslim Leader
Fear is relative. I was more afraid of being a woman in my native Pakistan, than being a muslim in US. Most muslim women socoities have no room for single women. I ma happy living in less fear.
Very true anon.
Go F yourself Jake. She has every right to live here just like everyone else if she entered the country legally.
I like living in US. I was a tax payer from day one of my move to US. I am a legal immigrant who has been through the tough road of earning my US citizenship, whcih took 10 years. You on the other hand were just born in to it. You did not earn these rights and freedom, you inherited it. Your first 12 years of education were most likely funded by tax payers too. (average in US is $8000 per child per year). So, easy for you to say "do us a fabor and go back. Too tough for you that the likes of you are not able to complete with me.
Oh cry me a river! How many Muslims were killed in post 9-11 retribution attacks??? If radical Christians had killed 3,000 Muslims, what would be the fate of non-Muslims in Muslim nations (or in non-Muslim nations for that matter)?
at last count? 100,000 plus and rising. Or did you forget that the whole Afghan and too a large extent, Iraq wars were basically retribution for 9./11
So you're saying our country should act more like third world islamic dictatorships? I disagree. The different way we treat our citizens is what makes us the good guys.
Patrick, you must know a lot about muslims, do you believe what the media preaches? A vast majority of muslims in the U.S. are peaceful people, they're hard-working citizens trying to live an honest life, but you and everyone who are ignorant, don't see that. You just fuel more hate and the hate keeps on growing. Do you believe in Jesus Christ? What would Jesus Christ do? Would he fuel hatred and condemn people who are mostly innocent? I don't think so. What I am trying to arrive at is you condemn a population of people when in fact you're assuming things, you assume that most muslims that live in the United States are evil. Where do you get your information from? This day is a day of mourning, a time of reflection and you and quite a few people on here keep on casting hate, you're far from Christian!!
The United States has .2% of the total Muslim population of the world. The Muslims here are not an accurate representation of "Muslim" behavior as they are heavily influened by the secular government and culture here.
For those people who are ignorant and casting hate on this article or about muslims, I hope Christ sees it in his heart to forgive you and I will ask for forgiveness for you. If there is hatred in your heart, even the slightest bit, you open yourself to the devil. It's just another sin you placed on yourself. Your doctor maybe muslim, that firefighter maybe muslim, and I assure you that there are soldiers fighting for this country who are muslim. They're fighting for this country along with our american soldiers and those of you who are ignorant and full of hate sit by your computer and type some ignorant message. All I can say is wow. Hate divides us apart and history has shown that. Before you preach hate and ignorance, please educate yourself. This is a day of mourning and reflection, not a time for you to post hateful and ignorant messages towards an article written by someone who maybe of muslim faith. I did my time and served this country for many years and I had fellow soldiers who were of muslim faith, they are no different, they uphold the same american values!
Thank you Sarah Palin for creating more fear.
wow...the level of ignorance and hate by most posters is really scary. america is doomed to fall
President Bush said, "we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining."
I still have faith in America. Most of us do not treat our fellow Americans this way. The hatred is among a minority.
I wish it was a small % but keep in mind more than 50% of americans believe in creationism...more than any developed country on the planet. SCARY
Did your country ever get up?
you tell me...I am american
we are all sitting on a powder keg – and the fuse has been lit.
i knew you were going to tell lies the moment i read muslims do not dislike dogs. after spending time in Saudi, i can attest that muslims do not like dogs. that is for sure!
Agreed – see my earlier post.
Since 9/11, Bush and the US military have used considerable restraint. Killing 1 billion muslims IS DOABLE by the US military.
bush is in the master class of idiots but he isn't hitler.
azures, but the ideology and practice of many muslims are exactly like hitler. They still want to kill ANYONE who does not beilive and comply to Islamic law. The US has used considerable restraint in not practicing mass genocide since their actions on 9/11. (and I know that they do not believe this and do not realize the US military could easily do this)
WE (Muslims) ARE the U.S. Military. for someone who wants to "blow up" Muslims, they need to get a grip. and for those who CLAIM to have "studied" Islam, i ask, "was your book written by a Muslim?" probably not.
When did this turn into a hate game? haven't we had ENOUGH of that?? i am tired of being afraid of YOU!
so is destroying the population of the planet...your point???
me2, my point is that killing every muslim throughout the world is doable by the USA via mass genocide and the muslims especially in the ME do not realize this fact. They practice their religious conflict not realizing the fact that we can kill them all within days. It is the US and the US alone to decide if we wish to practice empathy or not.
Islam is a peaceful religion. I agree. So are the basics of every religion.
BUT dear Author, ask yourself these questions before expectig too much, where else in the world is it easier and safer to practice islam and be a muslim than here in USA? Is it in Middle East? India? China? Try getting killed for being a Shia in in Sunni land or vice versa.
Where else in the world is it easier and safer to practice ANY RELIGION than here in USA?
Which other country in this world has better religious tollerence and encourages more then USA to practice your religion and be proud of it
If the answer is USA, which it is, then STFU and look at the brighter side. freedom is always relative. There is no other country in this world that is more secular than US. If you think there is, answer to this post and enlighten me.
Religion of peace? Are you out of your F'ing mind? Islam is based on killing non-muslims. Its commanded hundreds of times in it's holy texts you fool !
Misinterpretation of islam.
Truth is so right. Because this country is perfect we have no need to try to make it better.
Amen !! :)
Please, nearly every country in Western Europe is more secular than the U.S. The majority of our politicians our Christians, many of whom try to make religious doctrine law (see gay marriage). Religion and politics go hand and hand in this country.
As for tolerance, this article clearly shows a number of crimes against muslim Americans, then you have people like the westboro baptist church protesting soldiers' funerals and such. I would have to imagine in countries such as England, where over 50% of the population do not consider themselves religious has far more tolerance.
NEITHER HAVE YOU if that is your measure! Exactly HOW are they any different than you or your ancestors as far as that garbage about 'being invited'!?!
YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE PROPAGANDA and ignore Truth – if ALL Muslims were actually violent I think we would have notices ONE BILLION VIOLENT PEOPLE! Try doing your homework or maybe YOU can leave America, as we are founded on the notion of EQUALITY – something you seem to ignore and which goes hand in hand with LIBERTY.
You call yourself an American, but have un-American intolerance?
Instead of wasting your energy convincing rest of the world that Islam is a peaceful religion, please focus your efforts on getting rid of Islamist terrorism. That is the only way to convince people that Islam does not preach violence.
PS – I do not believe in any religion. For me, humanity and science are the only religions worth considering.
Well said brother
So, until there is no more terrorism, you feel that negative treatment of muslims is justified. You are the problem she is talking about.
Kara, a debate about anything muslim can only happen if the US wishes it to be. I know for a fact and it is more than obvious that muslims do not realize that the US is allowing them live anyplace on this planet. The US CAN kill 1 billion muslims and since 9/11 Russia and China would not blame us
They live in fear?, they should be.
No one should be living in fear. Two wrongs do not make a right. Just because Muslim countries persecute non-muslims does not make it right for rational people to persecute Muslims. Stop the insanity, people!
Wow! Another smart person. Thank you!
Miami, you are most correct. EVERY single muslim throughout the world CAN be killed by the US military. They do not realize this and that we have used considerable restraint in not practicing mass genocide. The muslims in the ME are especially ignorant of this fact that we could kill them ALL within days.
May one day Muslims find peace among themselves, Shia, Sunni, Sufism, etc. No one shall live in fear.
scat, they should all be living in fear of the US and comply to anything we want them to do. We could kill them ALL within days if we wish to.
It's a shame, that the author didn't take this time to completely reject violence, in the name of Islam. I know, that would go against some basic tenents of Islam.
Seems to me that is implied by the piece.
road, if you step back and look at the big picture anyone who practices Islam throughout the world can only do so if the US allows it.
Opinion: Non-muslims in US (and all over the world) live in fear because of radical Muslims.
Especially the Pakistani girl who "burned Quran".
I've never feared a Muslim in my life, hell I hardly even encounter a Muslim in my day to day life
Where you guys get this scare tactic crap from is baffling to me
Scare tactic crap? You obviously aren't following the fate of a Christian girl in Pakistan who's been in jail – and faces a death sentence – for allegedly burning the Koran (and her case hasn't been dismissed even though a local cleric has been charged with planting burned pages in the girl's home).
Scare tactic? Sorry, don't need 'em.
You just answered you own question. You don't encounter any muslims in your life. If you did, you might understand.
How dare you, CNN? You put this opinion piece on the front page of your website on the 11th anniversary of September 11, 2001. Today is a day of remembrance for those lost in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Don\'t use it for your own political statements about how people need to respect those who practice the religion that murdered thousands of innocent people on this day 11 years ago. Yes, there are Muslims in this world who are not extremists and who are non-violent. Today is not their day. Today is the day of the people who were brutally murdered 11 years ago, and those who died attempting to rescue the victims. Extremely low class, CNN.
God Bless you! You are 100% correct!! Let's all remember those who lost family, friends and co-workers that infamous day.
Including all the muslim families who lost loved ones, and now live in fear.
The Muslim religion didn't kill anyone in 9/11. Many terrorists have claimed to act based on religious beliefs, but modern religions don't support these claims.
SaneinArizona, I certainly agree with your support for the families of the victims of 9/11, and I understand how, at first, it may seem distasteful for CNN to post such a story on the front page. I have come to the realization, however, that it was not Islam that killed those people any more than it was Christianity that killed thousands in the crusades. It was the ignorance, hatred, and fear of those evil men that brought so many lives to untimely ends. No matter where it comes from or at whom it is directed, such hatred and fear, born of misinformation or outright ignorance, is something which must be corrected. If we educate ourselves and those around us, then the fear that exists between Muslims and Westerners will dissipate. Ignorance begets fear, which leads to violence. Knowledge engenders acceptance, which leads to peace. This is exactly how we can honor those we lost, by ensuring through education that such a thing never happens again.
Correctly stated. Thank you for being so intelligent!
9/11 is a day of rememberance for all SANE people. Those murderers who did this in the name of Islam are not true Muslims. Those so-called Muslim extremists as well as uneducated and biased people like you are making lives difficult for true Muslims and for non-Muslims too. So, please don't punish innocent people for the heinous deeds of some who call themselves Muslims. Be open-minded and get some education.
Great comment, I agree. I think CNN insults every American on a solemn day of remembrance with this leading headline. Not to mention that it is a ridiculous proposition. Here is "Bringing you the truth" CNN: People chose to live here because we provide the best sanctuary in the world and there is nothing anyone will ever face on our shores that is nearly as frightening as the hate driven violence in the Middle East.
San, if you look at the big picture those who practice muslim and Islamic law throughout the world can only do so if the US allows it. The US is more than capable of killing them all within days without puting one boot on the ground. This IS reality that should be printed in the Koran.
Muslims living in fear in Christian America? Wow, what faith! I wonder what creates more fear – being a Muslim in the privileged west, surrounded by turn the other cheek Christians, or finding that Jesus Christ is the Lord and being threatened from fellow Muslims about converting.
Curt, if the Muslims wish to know the God's honest truth, the last sentence in the Koran should say; "the belief and practice of this religion can only be practiced only if the USA allows it to be"
What Muslim leaders need to do is this: OPENLY and LOUDLY address each of the Koranic verses and Hadith (sayings and actions of Mohammed) that their non-Muslim friends tell them sound scary or threatening, and explain exactly why and how these well-accepted components of Islam should not be viewed as scary or threatening. That simple.
Such explanations would put some non-Muslims at ease. And any reaction – agreement or uproar – within various Islamic communities over this detailed, peaceful, and public interpretation will allow non-Muslims to better understand their neighbors' thoughts. Until this is done, tension is slated to persist.
Whatever the Koran says, it is irrelevent to the reality that it is the USA's decision whether to allow them to exist or not. This is a fact.
Islam itself is the problem. Sorry, but you're not getting any sympathy from me. Join the civilized world and then I'll consider changing my mind. At present, Islam is the greatest threat to Humanity that we've ever seen. You think that 3000 people killed by a few planes is as bad as it will get? Should we wait for nuclear terrorism from Islam? Or how about a distant future where mankind has colonized other planets – we going to see Islamic planets lobbing planet-killing asteroids at non-Islamic planets? I say end Islam now – regarless of the cost – as it will be much worse in the future.
Islam was bearable when they were a bunch of poor camel-drivers in the wasteland. Quite a bit different situation when they control Nukes and can hit anywhere on the planet.
How is Islam the ONLY religion that simply cannot get along with anyone else. Islamist are currently at war with secular Western democracies, former Soviet dictatorships, and Communist China. Islamist currently engage in "armed struggle" (i.e. terrorism) against Hindus, Sikhs, Taoists, Buddhists, Animists, and B'ahai (which is beyond me since the B'ahai believe that EVERYONE is right, even the Islamicists) on top of the more publicized belligerence against Christians and Jews. Who can explain this fact? Occam's Razor, anyone?
You will not get an apology from any true muslim. We answer for our individual actions, and it too bad I can't go to court and say that a christain robbed me, so please have all christians put in jail.
Do you care to explain your "civilized" nation of slave owners? or the terrorists that wiped out the natives? Oh please, go get the gun you love, and allow it to bore some opening in your hardened skull of ignorance. No one owes you anything and you can continue to believe whatever you want.
Very simple concept for those who listen and care. There are billions of people in the world. Statistically there is a tail (lets call it 5%) or people who are mentally retarded, or extremists looking for ways to die for some phantom reason. Now given about 1/3 of the worlds population is muslim, 5%/3 of these retards and extremists will be mulsims who are chasing phantom ideologies. Dont go around labelling the whole Mulsim population. If you disagree, go back to school or use that gun to help you understand things better.
" Even so, Islam is viewed as a religion preaching violence."
That's because compared to the other world religions, Islam is being taught in a rather violent manner. From oppression of women (everyone saw that poor woman executed with an assault rifle) to poisoning school girls, to flying planes into buildings.
Muslims want to apologize for this and say it isn't what Islam is teaching, but it indeed is. There are as many permutations or Islam as there are tribal rivalries.
christians forget where their ignorant masses were being worked up into flaying people alive or burning them in a public square for paganism.
Do you actually know any Muslims or are you just stating stories from the media. True Muslims do not oppress their women. The stories you read are of uneducated people in underdeveloped countries, lacking proper knowledge. Even in the Western world, non-Muslim women get tortured by their husbands/boyfriends – these oppressors lack proper education and respect too.
Joe, you're right that 9/11 might have been caused by the west poking a stick into the dog's nose all the time and the dog bit back. But I disagree with you, because that might have been the exact intention of the west – to be bit back, so it could kill the dog as an excuse. I-one of-MHO's, the west is causing (wanting, and carefully planning terrorist attracks by muslims 'coz it keeps them in business killing them back with their superior weapons). – p.s. I'm surprised CNN allowed two of my posts, which had been banned for years.
The author rightly points out the truth about groups who set out to retaliate against American Muslims but she fails to put American Muslims on check. The fact is, since 9/11, the Muslim American community has done little to nothing to defend the American way.
The ones and twos like the author do not cut it! The so called editorials, the books, the publications which have been written to better understand the American Muslims do little. In America, people want to hear it from your mouth!! They want to see you outside sharing in the disgust for these acts of terrorism.
But we don't see it.. What we see is a piece 9/11 posted on CNN.
The author goes out of her way to say that Americans need to learn about Muslims but fails to realize that it is American Muslims that need to learn about America. If they come here believing that we will ever embrace the radical behavior we see everyday from Muslim extremists, they are wrong!
We are told that the extremists only account for a small amount of Muslims well then, if American Muslims can not communicate their stance about these things here in America, then where? I don't believe it! The books about the Quran and Muslim life are very contradictory and frankly, all deeply embedded in religion. Muslim religion. They have nothing to do with life in America.
Today, we all gather to remember what happened on 9/11. People try to find an answer which serves their beliefs of the world. People see planes hitting the Towers which Muslims were flying. Americans grieve the loss of 2974 innocent people.
There is no love for those 19 hijackers. Regardless of what the Quran says, regardless what this author says, their souls have been cast into oblivion, never to be embraced by any Maker.
How could any religion expect anything else?
The American Muslims love the freedom and the opportunity in America but hate the freedom and opportunity because it truly is freedom and opportunity. That is why American Muslims are not speaking out for America.
They are speaking out for America but some people have selective hearing!
If they didn't belong here, they wouldn't be let in by customs. What are you talking about?
To the bleating sheep everywhere, the truth will be harder to think about than you have the mind for, you are brain washed. There is no Republican party or Democrat party there are corporations that own all politicians and they worship the blood god. They own everything without them you would not have a job or a house or food anything. To keep you hoping and almost working they create fear of loss and wind bag politicians. They are in a resource fight and it will get worse as the population grows and there is more demand. They always lie and call it something else on their company owned media but the game is on for the finish line now and we all loose. The detention camps are built and the bunkers are built and stocked, do you have a pass to get in the bunker? Thought not.
Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
please do not quote that which you do not understand.That quote is during a war.This does not apply to immocent civilians and it definately doesnt apply to the cowards that struck on 911.
COWARDS! wow you are the first muslim that I have ever heard say that or are you not a muslim?
Good point. And having been raised a Christian I think it only fair to share some of our ahh interesting advice. For example I learned from Exodus 21:7 that I can sell my daughter into slavery. Lev.25:44 also tells me that I can purchase slaves – but thankfully I am told it can it be from neighbor nations – I mean that would be immoral. Good think I have the bible to keep me on the straight and narrow. Oh wait! We are only trying to embarrass and harass our muslim friends here and not discuss our own absurd quotes. I'm sorry. Please disregard this. Or better yet – realize that all of our texts have some absurdities and realize that those who live in glass houses should not be throwing stones!
You say that no religion can flourish for 1,400 years without being flexible and adaptable. In my opinion Islam has not evolved at all. It is exactly as it was 1,400 years ago. Ancient. The reason I say this is because we no longer burn witches at the stake. Somebody somewhere figured that one out a long time ago. We don't beat our woman either, or vail them up. It's all about a book. And, it IS JUST a book...fiction like the bible...and I can burn that one and nobody dies. Please!?
Good post mike.
I am a white formerly Christian man. (I think its all bunk but you know my background) Well to do (more or less) College educated, three degrees. Education (Social Studies), Philosophy and History. Born a citizen with a half-dozen or more generations (much more with some families) as citizens behind me. Father a veteran, Grandfather a veteran and numerous relatives as well. I was never called upon to serve in the military though. So I am among the most safe, protected and privileged people in this country (unless I was super rich)
I am horrified at the hate spewing forth in response to this. Typical ignorant Americans (my countrymen and women) who do not understand 1% of Muslims wish others harm. That typify long standing disagreements between sects and other Religions as some sort of world domination agenda. Part of my education is that of the study of religion. Chrustians don't realize their own religion encompasses holy war as well.
That authoritarian governments the USA helped create and support oppressed minority ethnic or religious groups should come to no surprise. Study a little history and you might understand.
"Its ok for them to be scared" or other sorts of justifications are among the most embarassing things I've ever seen from an American. What happened to the idea that we may not agree with what you do, say or worship but we will defend TO THE DEATH your right to do this? That is what we were founded upon. What makes the USA so different and unique. Every attack by an American on a Muslim, or any minoriy is an attack on America itself. More heinous than 9/11. 9/11 was perpatrated by our enemies, outsiders, not our own people. Attacks on American Muslims are attacks on our own neighbors BY OUR NEIGHBORS! Worse by any measure. To do so, or to justify or to not care is to prove the 9/11 attackers right. That we are as deserving of their hate and contempt as they believed. That the thousands deserved to die for they were not worthy to live.
But that we know is not true. No person should live in fear because of their beliefs. No person should die because of how or who they worship or if they choose to at all. That is who we SHOULD be. It is sad that we have degenerated into hatemongers, bigots and beleivers that somehow our beliefs must be correct but others are worthy of terror and death because of theirs.
Bravo for publishing this on this day CNN. There is no better day or way to help show how far we have fallen.
Your Pollyanna b.s. doesn't fly. ALL muslims are commanded to kill non-muslims. Whether or not they follow their holy text is their choice. But the bottom line is that Islam is based on a violent genocidal text. How can you say you're shocked at people spewing hate towards a religion that states it wants to kill them. The KKK has a less violent doctorine.
Mind sending over the memo on killing? I dont think i got it. Are ants non-mulsims that I can kill? I read a word in the biible that said something about hell. Is that what everyone reading the bible is looking for?
Thank you John B for the most intelligent and well thought out post I have seen in a long time. I could not have said it better myself! I am so tired of all this hate. This country was built on the freedom of religion, and I think it is disgusting that people have forgotten how to love thy neighbor.
I am my brother's keeper. While Cain didn't believe it. I know it.
Funny I'd think that, and I'm not even religious.
Thank you all for the support. Now if you could just send me some money, I've been thinking about getting into politics. :-) Just kidding
Thank you for those words. That was probably the most intelligent comment I've read on this piece. And to all those who say it's justifiable that an innocent person lives in fear in a free country because of the actions of another, I ask what will you say when it's your turn? How will you handle it when someone from your religion, political, race, etc does something heinous and society turns on you? Will you consider yourself guilty by association as well?
You sir are the reason this country is great. It is sad that our history as americans, generations of immigrants, open to ideas, first to act and solve problems, is being washed away by pride in being ignorant.
Well said – Its nice to see someone who is thoughful share their ideas.
Thank you for sharing. I had never really considered the side of the non-extremists, and as both and Christian and American citizen, I apologize for the fear you and members of your religion live in. Today is a grievous day, and it is important to remember the victims of the after-effects as well.
Muslims dont like dogs – they are considered filthy animals. I have several muslim friends who wont come to my home because I have a dog and have told me flat out that she is a dirty animal!!!! So dont say that they like dogs – they dont!!! Dogs wander the streeets in Egypt, starving, and no-one gives them anything to eat, not even a dish of water. They treat their holy Koran better. I have no great love for them, as they're all two-faced liars, smile to your face and wish you dead behind your back. Her boo-hoo story doesnt touch my heart.
What shame! The US tends to be the big bully of the world. People like Romney and Bush want to change the world to their view, yet neither is ethical, honest, or a real Christian (New Testament, Jesus). They are about a honest as the Muslim Imans who have no clue as to the rest of the world and pretend to be God. Whoops, that is Bush and Romney and Ryan, who has no experience and no clue as to anything. Hopefully our Congress will grow up and take care of the American people instead of Mitch McConnell.
OK, you are late for home room. Back to class with you. Learn fool!
Joe, you'll get what you deserve when you rot in hell. Until then, you're an oxygen thief.
After 9-11 I decided like any educated intelligent person to inform myself and read up on Islam, it's history and culture. The more I read and learned, the worse Islam looked. I suppose many Americans have by now done pretty much the same thing. If more Americans today view Islam negatively than ten years ago, it's because Americans have had the time to read and reflect and draw rational conclusions.
hehehe, makes me glee. we have been worst sufferers in their hand.
Everything I learned about Islam I learned on this day 11 years ago. We have yet to be attacked by a Buddhist, Amish, Sikh, Hindi or any other religious sect. Muslims are just plain evil.
Tim Mcveigh was Catholic. Did you learn all you needed to learn about Catholicism when he blew up the Oklahoma Federal building?
Sorry there zippy mcveigh was a catholic by association only and the new testament does not teach to kill those that differ with you unlike the rag of a book the mulims (lower case on purpose) read. NEW testament NEW testament "try understanding what you speak of before you open thy mouth fool?
Muslims in the US are better of than living in their own countries. If they are afraid, there is something wrong. However, Muslim countries do not allow ANY OTHER PEOPLE OF OTHER RELIGIONS TO LIVE IN PEACE IN THEIR COUNTRY.
I would rather be a Muslim living in Ameria than a Christian "trying" to live in Saudi Arabia. Duh!!!
I agree with u a 100%
Other peoples' intolerance is not justification for yours.
of course u r from the most hated people of Egypt(what they called themselves coptics)–u guys will stay like that all of ur life hating and hating-i said go to the hell
zozo, Please call 911 and have yourself committed. We'll vouch for you.
NEVER NEVER FORGET 9-11-201 END OF STORY!!!!!!!
You have to assume that anyone in this comment area bashing Muslims can't be a Christian, because the things they say here go against Jesus' teachings.
Otherwise, you're living in sin. I didn't make the rules, Jesus did.
I find the most insufferable and ignorant people to almost always be Christian and American.
It's a shame that these people make the whole religion look bad as a whole.... Kinda seems familiar
Exactly, what their fairy tales tell them is to "Love thy enemy" and "Turn the other cheek." Justifying hate because the other group hates is exactly what Jesus (supposedly) didn't teach.
I would say most people aren't afraid of muslims just like most muslims are not terrorists, so what is the point of this article except to just add fuel to the fire?
You make it all sound so nice!
Spoken like a true Democrat... Glad to see your partys colors finally going through.. Yellow,
Everyone lives in fear so long as religion still exists. I have to wonder if humanity will survive it's belief in fairy tales, or if ultimately religion just wipes out the entire race.
People live in fear when there isn't religion, too. You may be aware of such names as Mao, Stalin, and Hitler, none of whom was religious.
Muslims don't like dogs? I hadn't heard that. Why don't Muslims like dogs? (Just kidding).
But no kidding around, if Muslims are so open-minded and inclusionary, why do they make it a crime for a Muslim to convert to another religion? Why do they oppress women? Why do they install blasphemy laws that force people to hide their own beliefs on pain of death? Why do they kill members of their own family that want to assimilate into the American culture? I do believe American Muslims live in fear, but the rest of your reasoning doesn't hold much water.
This was the best comment I read all day
II'd have liked for the author to have provided even a sliver of evidence of "Islamic religious leaders" denouncing the attacks. I remember lots of imams and other such characters cheering on that day. Indeed, large crowds gathered in many Muslim countries bearing posters with bin Laden's image on them in the aftermath.
And which laws of Islam did the terrorists break? Anyone who bothers to consult the historical facts will quickly find that the FOUNDER of the religion was a terrorist and a war-mongering, merciless invader of other lands.
What a surprise: CNN gives no equal time to a writer who actually knows the history of Islam and won't mumble politically correct nonsense about this topic.
The author of this piece may be a nice lady, but she is either lying through her teeth here or she is woefully ignorant of the facts.
To be fair, this women's parents were from India, so even though Muslim, it's really not the same background as those from the middle east, bent on destruction of Isreal, and hate America because of our oil interests.
Yes, it is wrong to conclude that all Muslims are radical terrorist. And yes all Muslims should be afraid. They should fear mostly what this small group of radical Muslims will do to destroy the fabric of the good Muslim community. I have yet to hear what Muslim are doing as a community to identify and capture these radical individuals. Not one incendent were an individual has been identified by the Muslim community and taken into custody for radiacal behaviour. As Americans we have kept our eye open and reported criminal behaviour when notice. We've made public and reported misbehaviour from our politicians and goverment. This is what we do to protect our common interest. American Muslims must join to remove these criminals and put an end to this radical behaviour. Only Muslims can do this kind of cleansing in their community. God bless us all and help us work through these difficult times.
Generally speaking, Muslim is the worst religion of this era. It is the ONLY religion that condones murder and violence. It is the only religion where fathers kill daughters for honor sake, treats women as subservient to men. condones mass lynching if you say anything bad about allah and the kuran, condones stoning people to death for adultery, encourages people to kill non-Muslims, offers virgins to mass murderers. Recently, they were ready to burn a young girl alive when she tore off some pages from a Kuran. Of course, not every Muslim is a murderer and violent, but Muslim is the ONLY religion that condones violence. It empowers radical followers to carry out atrocious acts.
We should NOT allow Muslim religion to infiltrate the USA. We have every reason to be vigilant against their advances.
Islam is the only religion that treats women as subservient? You should take a moment to break open a Bible and read First Corinthians 14:34-35.
Was former Pres Bush at the RNC? Was Cheney? Was Rumsfeld? Powell? How about Ashcroft? did he get any face time at the RNC? No? Didn't these guys control our world for awhile? Its getting harder and harder to sell this BS..."Freedom" now is "Jobs" There are lots of ways for a young an to make money these days....you simply sign up with an international corporation contracting in Afghanistan. Finish out the year and come home with a paycheck comparable to what you would have earned working in Clinton's America under Clinton a decade ago....If we got out of the middle east, we would find out how much money we spend there...that is why we are there until 2024.
On 9/11 lets pause to remember those hijackers were people too and their religion of peace is being woefully maligned today.
Let's not forget that it wasn't really their fault either, but rather American arrogance that forced them to commit these acts.
Of course, by "Islamophobia," what Muslims like the author really mean is asking hard questions about and directing legitimate criticisms toward the totalitarian, Islamic supremacist religious/political doctrine of Sharia. Believing themselves above the sort of criticism that is directed toward every other religion and group that seeks political influence, they simply attempt to shut down debate by crying "hatred" and suggesting, via the phony pseudo-diagnosis of "Islamophobia" that speaking out against the promoters of Sharia and their enablers is tantamount to mental illness.
The FBI's own crime statistics disprove this myth that there is any exceptional level of crime directed toward Muslims–you know, that phantom "anti-muslim backlash" that we've been assured is right around the corner ever since 9/11 but which stubbornly fails to materialize.
What do Muslims expect? Every place in the world where there is discord and violence is Islamic based.
Knucklehead – there are over 1 Billion Muslims. The % of violence for that number of people is no greater than any other group, including Americans.
If ALL Muslims were violent as you believe that would be ONE BILLION VIOLENT PEOPLE and I think we would have noticed that!
This Article is probably the biggest insult to non-muslim Americans. I can't believe that the writer is actually trying to gain sympathy for muslims living in America. Oh boo hoo: mosques got bombed/vandalized. boo hoo, muslims are getting picked on. boo hoo, muslims are misunderstood. Islam is a relision of extremism. It teachs violence and condones killing. The sharia laws allow for the murder of innocent women and children, and lays for formulas for how punishment should be dealt out. I personally don't trust Muslims. They have no loyalties, except to Islam. I really don't think that any muslim who pledges loyalty to America is being true. They are basically incapable of such an act. They come to western countries to reap the rewards and nothing else. This is perhaps not there fault, they are just wired that way.
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS at its best
So am I!!!
The freedom to express an opinion is truly freedom of speech and the author has that right, that we disagree with this particular opinion is also our freedom and to flaunt our own brand of opinion although some embedded in hate is just freedom of speech.
The muslims are living in fear of those fanatical ( you are either with us or against us)terrorists hunting them down.
in that statement ( you are either with us or against us) has created terrorism in and of it self.
1. Ban all political parties and the donations they recieve from corporations, special intrest groups, lobbists and PACs
2.all Americans have IMIGRATION history
3. Just because you are white it does not mean you are right
4.Corporations are not people. they are run by people who already vote and donate money
5.universal health care is in every democracy except the USA
6. The GWB adminastration from top to bottom is a corporate terrorist group stealing natural resources from other nations.
7. Where is the electric cars? buried by auto and oil industries.
8 impose a mandate that all new businesses and homes be built with renewable energy products.
9. re regulate the banking system, create a government dept to make money , end the fed or mandate the government to regulate interest rates instead of the fox guarding the hen house
10. Keep religion out of our government and our government buildings
the political parties are not in the business of doing anything for the nation as a whole, they are self serving finger pointers who stagnates the progress of going forward
If it were Christians (civilians) carrying out attacks killing thousands in the middle east, I'm sure the Islamic nations in that region would discriminate/ban/kill all Christians in their territory. I would approach the subject differently.
You might take into consideration, Dan, that American civilization holds itself to a higher standard than most middle eastern countries. It is silly to think that someone else's bad behavior justifies one's own bad behavior.
"Muslim is peaceful religion" Prove it
Christianity is a peaceful religion. Prove it?
My experience with muslims is that they are sneaky and seem to have no honor. They seem to live under the rules that it's wrong if you get caught and OK if you get away with it. I guess the real problem is they try to force religion into civil law. To summarize...if I meet a muslim he has to prove he is trustworthy to me. BJNJ
I was starting to like your article until you started lieing like : No religion can flourish for 1,400 years without being flexible and adaptable. My "behind" maybe flexible with what type of weapons you use? Muslims have been one of the most oppresive if not the most oppresive religions since 1,400 years ago.
You probably didn't say that line in front of the jews you spoke off, they would have probably laughed at you instead of applauded.
I have in person heard Imams state that if they had any say they would like for America to come under Sharia for everyone, no exceptions. I guess I just filled with hate so much that my own eyes and ears no longer function properly.
Yes, but who are the ones being attacked > 90% of the times by the most destructive western weapons (of mass destruction) – almost all the times it's Muslims that are being targeted by war-terrorism. Maybe that's why.
Everything I learned about Islam I learned on this day 11 years ago. We have yet to be attacked by a Buddhist, Amish, Sikh, Hindi or any other religious sect. Muslims are just plain evil.
Bill – Well said
brought it upon yourselves sir...and yes, terrorists certainly under-estimated the determination of the Western World.
It is hard when you know at this very minute there are plans being devised by muslims to kill as many Americans as possible. It is not fair to lump all muslims in this category but it is hard to separate. Know other group of people hate us so much. Some of it is justifiable in my mind but that doesn't make me feel any better that people want me dead.
Unfortunately, what happened on 9/11 has scarred most of us... deeply. This is not something that we can easily forgive and forget. What people need to do, however, is to separate the extremists from the "legitimate" muslims who live peacefully, amongst us, in North America. They are not forcing their views, on us, as they are doing in England...they are not violent and they do respect our laws. We are definitely luckier than other countries. For most of us 9/11 was a loss of our innocence. I pray for all those lost souls and for the families they have left behind.
Can't we all just get along!
Not unless you are willing to convert to Islam and to the specific sect they want you to. Man has never gotten along so thank you Rodney.
CNN is a left leaning/progressive media outlet. They cannot let a day like this go to waste if they can somehow bend it in their political direction. Expecting them to simply honor those who perished 11 years ago at the hands of muslim hijackers is expecting too much. No, they cannot allow that. They must spin it backward to victimize muslims in America and take the focus off the real victims of 9-11. Way to go, CNN. Way to go...
Please don't blame CNN for the lack of Muslim courage. Go find these criminals and bring them to justice. Then you can claim you're an American or human for that matter. The fact that you are here in these United States does not make you an American. The problem is that you put religion above all matters. Even when they have criminal intent. This behaviour makes you an accomplice and therefore you are just as guilty as the radical terrorist. Man-up!
Another thing: SHAME on CNN for publishing this article today, of all days. The insensitivity and general insult to the families of 9/11 victims is unconscionable.
I agree, this article should not have been published today.
I also agree – very shameful.
Dave Smith, yes I see you point that you're hurt the article is being published today by CNN. But doesn't CNN do stories with western pov's for the 363 other days of the year, during each of which the Muslims have been terrorized by the West? Do you object to CNN publishing those then?
In this country, we shouldn't focus on a backward and violent religion and its equally backward and violent adherents.
Rasheed, Please don't blame CNN for the lack of Muslim courage. Go find these criminals and bring them to justice. Then you can claim you're an American or human for that matter. The fact that you are here in these United States does not make you an American. The problem is that you put religion above all matters. Even when they have criminal intent. This behaviour makes you an accomplice and therefore you are just as guilty as the radical terrorist. Man-up!
Most Muslims are not terrorists. However, most terrorists are Muslims. It is a shame that the actions of a few Muslims basically destroyed the reputation of an entire religion.
Your statement is not an axiom, it is a theory yet to be proved. I do agree most terrorists are muslim, however, when the Mahdi comes on the scene then the statement will be all muslims are terrorists, if they are not they will be killed. Read their book.
It should be pointed out that None of the terrorists on 9/11 were Americans, nor were they from Iraq, but that did not stop us from going to war.
Actually a small fraction of terrorists are Muslim. you should do some research before posting facts that you know nothing about.
It's primarily Christian extremists that bash Muslims all the time, those that think this is a Christian nation and belong to their people and that only Christian lives died during 9/11. Sickening, really.
Way to follow your own religious text guys, but I guess if you pray away all the bad things you say and accept Jesus it doesn't matter.
Perhaps it is only christians that understand the antichrist and the mahdi are one and the same.
lol..Christians understand something? Haha....I doubt that. The majority of Christians I've met just aren't terribly bright, and the possibility that they possess any sort of insider knowledge is dubious at best.
PC at its best. LET US REMEMBER 911 forget about the Muslims go home
Make no mistake. The only reason those Sand Surfers are peaceful here is beacuse they have to TOLERATE us. UNTIL they get a power base within thye political system, (Legislative (YEP), EXECUTIVE(PRESIDENT and YES) and JUDICIAL (YEA, they even own that also) Money talks. WHen they gain total control, you will see the real side of ISLAM. ASK A NIGERIAN
I am a non-muslim american (who lost many friends 11 years ago today) with a muslim wife, so I can see both sides of this issue. The author's article does nothing to help by ignoring very obvious problems in the worldwide muslim community. "Islam is a religion of peace" ... blah blah blah... Oh? What about your religous leaders issuing death warrants for people who draw cartoons? What about honor killings? What about woman's rights in Saudi Arabia? What if a retarded kids burns a few pages of the Koran? Is there any quality control at CNN?
Muslims conveniently omit that all the time. Why should she be any different?
Exactly what I was going to type, but you beat me to it.
In America Muslims are protected by law. The only thing they have to fear is criminals. That is not true of Chritians in Muslim countries. So I do not think Sumbul you will find much credibility for your pity party for Muslims here. boo hoo!
Exactly ! you said it well.... I can only had details. Those details being : beheadings of infidels or dhimmis who do not follow islam, genital mutilation of young women in islam prior to puberty and the practice of boy love called bachi bazi in Islam. Between these 3 disgusting things and their hatred of dogs and pouring acid onto faces of girls that attend school along with burning Christians in churches or forbidding churches to be built in Saudi, well... I have no sympathy. I think we should have a law that says "when we can build churches in Saudi , then you can have a mosque here. " .
HENCE, THE IMPORTANCE OF "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE"!!!
America is a few REPUBLICANS short of becoming a IDEOLOGICAL crack pot NATION like many of those non secular countries everyone here have been naming.
If our government were atheist you would see the same anti-Christian bigotry that you see in Muslim coutries. It is not! It is a judeo-Christian view of civil governent which you see here. Atheists are far too intolerant of religion to produce the freedoms which we now enjoy.
i literally don't care
Kind of like Christians during the Obama term. He will probably declare all our holidays illegal during his second term.
Oh, goodie! Does this mean you admit he's going to win, and that the atheist society we've all wanted is fast coming? Oh, happy day!!!!!!!! Idiot.
And when he doesn't do any of the nonsense that you claim he'll do in a second term, are you going to admit you were overreacting? Or will you come up with some goofy excuse, rather than simply admit you were wrong?
Rock and Roll baby, just Rock and Roll
Of all the stories that could be told on 9/11, this is the one that CNN chooses to make front and center? If you could, would you hand the keys of America over to Islamic extremists in order to advance your One World political correctness campaign? Here's a more appropriate headline – "Americans lived in fear of Muslims on 9/11, until they hit the ground after jumping to their deaths". Shame on CNN.
Another Islamofacist was assassinated in Yemen yesterday. That's what gives me hope for the future.
Today is definitely not the day for this article to be posted. CNN you have 29 other days for this but you choose today for a Muslim "boo hoo" story. I hope you have something entertaining about lindsey lohan or a Kardashian story to make up for this.
Boo freakin hoo. I'm sorry, but I'm not shedding a tear because American Muslims live in fear after 9/11. I haven't seen countless Muslims condemn the terrorists actions. I did see many Muslims dancing in the streets though after 9/11. I also have noticed that many Muslims outside the U.S. live by archaic laws. I recall many stories of people being killed for just speaking Muhamed's name, let alone some who have gone farther and attempted to satirize or discuss Islam (Theo Van Gogh). I don't recall Christians or Jews doing the same. While those Muslims might not represent a true American Muslim, they still are the image most people associate with Islam. That's just the way it is.
What did you expect? Countless Muslims to knock on your door to let you know they were speaking out? Perhaps you expected them to text or tweet you? Because that's exactly what it sounds like. *YOU* weren't aware of something happened...so it couldn't possibly have happened.
You have *NOT* read any stories...much less "many" stories...of people being killed just for saying Mohammed's name. Well, you haven't read any true stories.
And you did *NOT* see "many Muslims dancing in the streets after 9/11. You saw some Palestinians. That's all. It wasn't Muslims all over the world. It wasn't thousands of Muslims. It wasn't even hundreds of them. You saw what *you* wanted to see...and now a handful has become "many Muslims".
Well, I don't recall any massive protests or rallies against priests raping kids and the Catholic Church covering it up. Do you? Does that mean that Catholics (not the victims themselves or their families) haven't spoken out? Of course not.
The fact is that *no* Americans should have to live in fear because other Americans don't understand their religion and are angry and hateful because of the behavior of a radical few. So you *ought* to care. Because "that's just the way it is" has excused every nasty thing we've ever done in this country. And it's nothing to be proud of.
If you live in fear, leave. Living in fear is not fun. You have every reason to fear in the USA, we don't welcome you or want you, just like the muslim countries don't want or welcome me. DEAL WITH IT or LEAVE, we do let you leave this country, you will not be imprisoned for your belief, but know this, your fears are not something we hold sacred or care about how you feel. Freedom is for all people not just the men of the world, freedom also means you can leave. Muslim are not people of freedom and should not enjoy the fruits of our labor.
Let them Live in Fear.
Until this world Gets Real Honest about that/ their Book, they can suffer for all I care.
The Quran is the single most hateful and disgusting afront to any G-D if there even were one, & to mankind in Mankin;d history and people need, especially Good Muslims need to start talking out loud about what is actually written in THAT PERVERSION of everything good in this world they call their Bible !!!
It's Not that Bad Muslims are twisting it's meaning, it;s that the book itself is Twisted whihc is not even close enough to being a good enough adjective for the Hate Perversio9n Of Justice and Racism that screams out from every single one of it;s pages !!!
and why CNN is so afraid of it I will never ever understand but if anyone wants anything to ever get better especially in the MUSLIM communities of this world, they had all better start telling the truth about what's written in That Book !
Before you ask people from other faith to learn about 'YOUR' version of islam, I suggest you teach 99% of muslims 'YOUR' version of islam.
'Your' version of islam is a human, civilized islam. The islam as per the Quran which 99% of muslims follow, want to take the whole word back to the 6th Century. It is cruel, intolerent to the most basic human rights. Clean your religion before you ask us to accept it.
9/11 only made the world more aware of muslim extremists. But Islam is indeed full of hate.
Muslims are unwelcome, not only because of the stain of 9/11, but also because the way Muslims act outside of the Western world.
Look at the general public in countries like Iran, Syria, Egypt, Somalia and the breakoff Russian countries. Muslim children are taught to hate the Western world from an early age. The general population, which are almost all Muslims, hold anti-West rallies and openly chant for the fall of the West. Often, in rural areas, people are put to death if you convert to another religion.
CNN and other western news agencies usually censor the violence. But it doesn't take much digging to find your average, everyday Muslim outside of the US calling for Americans to die.
The American-Muslims are watered-down Muslims. They live the American lifestyle while selectively practicing Muslim teachings. Example: Islam does not accept those who are non-Muslim and teaches people to hate "zionists". American-Muslims casually ignore this, so that they can live the American dream life.
1. very poor taste of CNN to post this article on this day, but then CNN's focus is on promoting its liberal agenda.
2. author – if you don't like it here in America, try moving to a Muslim country, where all or most of the people around you are fellow Muslims, and see how well THAT goes. Try Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, Yemen or any of those wonderful places where they can show you what real freedom and tolerance are – HA!
All i need to know about islam and muslims, I saw on 9/11. I will never forget. I have studied the surahs, hadiths and seen the passages calling for our destruction and am aware of the rules and taxes for dhimmis as well as the islamic practice of takia. This article is part of that practice. This religion was stopped at the gates of vienna in the 1600's but has managed to out-birth Germans in Germany with turkish guest workers who have now embedded in that country to the point of receiving social benefits for multiple wives in violation of usual law. Britain has also taken to quietly paying islam polygamists social benefits. German reports indicate that by 2050 , native germans will be the minority in their own country. For more fun go to youtube and watch as the islamists at a county fair throw rocks and bottles and christians in Dearborn MI. There is your equal treatment. oh, and the 20 minutes of prayer time in a public school "carver" in San Diego CA but no 20 minutes of christian prayer time. Where is the ACLU or judicial watch on that issue eh ?
For all you narrow minded individuals put yourself in their shoes...what if a Christian, Jew, Buddhist, etc. had carried out the acts of 9/11 aka they were of your religion....How would you feel?! I will never forget and 9/11 effected us all but how can we call ourselves American or religious if we discriminate against others...
It is not discrimination, they are not our friends, therefore, they are our enemies – ask the soldiers how wonderful they are. Live and Let Live is not a factor here – know that if they (muslims) could kill you they surely would.
LB Colorado you know there are Muslims in the US military right??
He didn't exactly turn in his son, but that's a good start.
I read the article and most of the comments in this forum, and I just don't know what to say. What I remember is that after 9/11, I didn't see Muslims standing up and proclaiming that what the terrorists did was wrong. I didn't see the outrage. I didn't see the support for America. I did see Palestinians on TV handing out candy to children to celebrate the murders of our citizens. But I didn't see American Muslims doing or saying anything. For 11 years, I've wondered why, and I've come to the conclusion that most American Muslims are terrified of their religion, the control and wrath of their families and their Imams who still seem to live in the 13th Century. I guess according to this article, I'm just one of the ignorant who doesn't understand. What I am is hurt and damaged by the ravings of stone age murderers and shocked by the silence of those that claim they are not the enemy. Let them prove otherwise.
one thing sticks out in my mind of that day..... NO muslim saying it was wrong or bad, just candy being handed out in lebanon and muslims in the mid east on TV saying "god is great". Thanks alot and bombs on your heads are great !
You have a vey selective memory or only watched biased reports. There were many Muslim leaders condemning the terrorists on 9/11 and after. They just didn't get any press coverage. The inflamatory images of people dancing in the streets and handing out candy got a lot more mileage (even though there is evidence some of these were staged)..
American Muslim Alliance " American Muslims utterly condemn the vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts."
Most Muslim political and religious leaders condemned the attacks. The leaders vehemently denouncing the attacks included the Presidents of Egypt, Jordan, the Palestinian Authority, Libya, Syria, Iran and Pakistan
The alleged Hezbollah "spiritual mentor" and Lebanese Shia cleric Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah condemned the attacks.
Huge crowds attended candlelit vigils in Iran, and 60,000 spectators observed a minute's silence at Tehran football stadium.
Yes, thank you for the reminder. I remember candy being passed around to kids in the Middle East too.
That just shows you how violent and evil Islam is. While their governments had no choice but to condemn the attacks, the general public is the true show of Islam's sentiment of hate. The violence they show towards the West, and also to their own citizens is disgusting.
Why is it that everytime a Muslim terrorist / freedom fighter / civilian is seen online watching their friends or children get shot, they scream out "God is Great". Yup...my kid just got blown up. God is Great!!
They can solve their own problems – GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY – whether born in the USA or not –
“…Expressly for the use of any preacher of any religious persuasion who might desire to say something to the people at Philadelphia; the design in building not being to accommodate any particular sect, but the inhabitants in general; so that even if the Mufti of Constantinople were to send a missionary to preach Mohammedanism (Islam) to us, he would find a pulpit at his service.”- Ben Franklin from his Autobiography
Quran (5:33) – "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
The religion of peace
Thanks it is a great quote and idicicative of Islam as are many other hadiths and surahs as well as the Dhimmi tax and the practice of takia.
Uh-huh. And there's no issue with the Bible telling you to stone gays to death, or anything else then?
Actually there is no mention of stoning gays, it just says that it is wrong, actually an abomination, do what you do at your own risk. Don't drag the world down with you.
Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. [5:32]
Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. [5:34]
stop taking things out concept, that is devilish work, which only sick people do!!,,
if you relay seeking truth read Qur'an cover to cover, and bible cover to cover,, and please compare and see which one has more Violante, and sickness.,,,
it meant to respond to different post, but i guess CNN, change its location, to create confusion.
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger ............"
Dont wage the WAR then.. u had answer in your question...... Anyone wants to kill you and is outside your door with gun..what u gonna do ? so same is dont wage the war first and you will be in peace... Punishment is for those who try to kill one as per Quran
what is the punishment of those america dislikes DEATH so your point is,.....WHAT?
11 When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: 12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.
Religion of peace? Thanks Jesus
Fear....isn't fear something you experience every time you see a muslim boarding the same plane flight as yourself or a family member? Or maybe fear is something you feel whenever you walk into a beach bar in Bali.
Or perhaps fear is the worry that one's children will grow up to be as stupid as you.
Ah haaa... so are the rest of us, Mrs. Ali-Kaeamali, thanks to... (some) Muslisms!!!!
Completely tasteless to give us this PC piece on this particular day. Completely tasteless. Insufferably politically correct to the very end, eh CNN?
FOX, with their particular brand of brain dead propaganda, is more to your liking, eh?
No one in the U.S. wants to hear about the their problems! DEAR MUSLIMS; STAY INSIDE AND KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT ON 9/11!
Who died and made you king? I doubt anyone would even put you in charge of your trailer park.
The real King has risen, Mohammed not so much.
Thw amount of hate amoung these bigotted racist posts scares me!
Too bad you could not honor those who pasted on 9/11!
The Muslims in the US have NO positive Leadership whatsovever in my opinion. If they did, why haven't we seen US Muslims demonstrating against all the cowardly acts in the Middle East. Until I see Muslims in our country strongly condemning the stinking cowardly, evil, cruel Taliban and other Islamic Extremists, I have not one ounce of respect for US Muslims, period. Sorry, you US Muslims just haven't earned any respect at all. To say Islam is a religion of peace is the biggest OXYMORON I have ever heard of.
Just curious: what would it take for them to demonstrate, to your satisfaction, that they are condemning the wackos in their faith, or is that a waste of time because you have already made up your mind?
It would take the leaderships of the various mosques to call press conferences and denounce the madness. the top clerics should be on record vehemently attacking the extremists in print and on the air.
How do you know that they have any respect for you? By the way, why are American Muslims supposed to denounce the acts of what others thousands of miles away do? Btw, if you're a Christian, do you denounce every stupid act a fellow Christian does? Better yet, have you ever had a thought??
I denounce every stupid act by any religion. I'm not an Imam or a priest so not able to get my words to the masses as easily.
I agree that tolerance should never give way to uninformed perspectives & we're reading pages of them herein. That being said, American Muslims should be concerned about events taking place thousands of miles away because they are Americans, & while taking breaks from killing each other, the bad guys are murdering Americans, & her allies such as my fellow Canadians. This began in a sense with 9/11, a day which witnessed one of the most breathtaking actions against humanity, ever. When the towers of the WTC came down; people from 83 different countries were killed. Whether or not they were 'true' Muslims is irrelevant. Their diabolical acts of terrorism were done in the name of Islam. What I find most disturbing is the fact that repeated opinion polls reveal that a majority of Muslims around the world do not believe that it was Saudi extremists for the most part, who carried out the attacks. As for plundering the middle east for oil....we have never 'taken' the oil. We purchase it at prices set by the oil producing countries & the marketplace. If we were deciding the cost per barrel it would be a helluva lot cheaper. None of this has been a war on Islam. It has, & will continue to be; a war on terrorism. We scratch our heads in bewilderment when hearing of the latest suicide bomber blowing himself up at a mosque.
I'd start walking tomorrow, riding a bike, do whatever it takes to turn off the oil dependency on the Middle East oil. I'd like to see if they had anything else to sell the world. I am so tiried of hearing it's about oil. The conflicts are really religious to me. It's about who God talked to last. Who was given what land by God. It's about Jewish vs. Arab heritage. This is not the third century. We need to get along. Religion should be about how man relates to God. I love Christianity because it's about how God will judge me on the day I die. It's about whether I accept Christ as my Lord and Savior. It's about what heppens to my soul when I die. People don't have to believe that even though I do. I don't want other people dead. Christ said, love your enemy and neighbor. That is really hard for me sometimes. But, I will defend myself and my family. I don't believe that violates my Christian beliefs if I act in self defense.
By their silence, they support them.
Ah, a variation of guilt by association: now who is being un-American?
Just like the people that looked the other way when the KKK was running rampant in the south.
RIGHT ON! All supposed peaceful muslims need to stand up and denounce these terrorist groups, If they don't I see then as helping the terrorist cause by being complacent.
People have demonstrated over far more trivial things.
Petco is throwing away live animals? Corporations aren't socially responsible? Let's DEMONSTRATE.
Yet, when people kill and murder women and children – in the name of Islam – American-Muslims will casually sit back and relax because it's far far away. When a mosque is placed near the 9/11 site, American-Muslims do not think it's tasteless nor should it incite fury.
American-Muslims only demonstrate when they feel their own safety is at stake – say...when discriminated against at the airport search. Then they will whine and cry about discrimination, and how everyone else is so ignorant of Islam.
That's what this article is pretty much saying.
you dont get out much do you?
It is unfortuante that Ms. Ali-Karamali has chosen to do the same thing that she speaks against, which is reinforce fallacy by using the murder of Shaima Alawadi in her argument. The evidence suggests that Shaima Alawadi's murder was more likely committed by a family member. Nina Burleigh's article in Time provides more information on why this was likely a hate crime against a gender and not a religion. You can read it here: http://ideas.time.com/2012/04/10/shaima-alawadis-murder-a-hate-crime-against-women/
No doubt any religious or non religious group that would commit attrocity on such scale would get a lot of blame and be extricated from the mainstream groups of similar following.
The undeniable fact is that today, it is the followers of Islam that are capable of such acts, as they demonstrate almost weekly around the Middle East.
As much as the mainstream Islam believers would like the rest of the world to believe otherwise, these murderers are bred in the faith of Islam and they die in the name of Islam. Whatever religious principles are violated in the eyes of the mainstream believers DO NOT PREVENT THE smaller groups from killing more and more and more people in the name of Islam.
Christianity is not the better solution, nor is any other religion ( especially ones drawing on violence and oppression of Judeo/Christrian dogmans ). Religion free society is the only answer.
In the absence of religion, we'd find other ways to classify and divide ourselves, e.g. race, nationality, and political ideology. Let's face it – people just can't get along.
Race disagreements have no true fanatical followers and are derived from fear and again – religion.
Stop money laundering through tax exempt donations to churches/masque/synagogue and make it extremely profitable to donate and engage in education and scientific research. This would modernize not just the Islamist, but all religions, while serving a useful purpose for humantiy,
What people in this country chose to ingore ( many for their Christian beliefs ) is that the consitutions guarantees not just the Freedom of Religion, but Freedom from Religion.
The founding fathers were very wise and understood that ANY religion, because of its conflict with principles of civilized society can undermine the goverment itself, as expansion is always Religion's top priority.
All of the main stream religious books, the Torah, the New Testament and the Quaran clearly state the goals for expansion and little tolernance, albeit with self conflitcting, but so few "BELIEVERS" have actually read either source in full, they have no clue what they even say they're following.
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