Editor's Note: Sumbul Ali-Karamali is the author of The Muslim Next Door: the Qur’an, the Media, and that Veil Thing, and Growing up Muslim: Understanding the Beliefs and Practices of Islam. She is on the steering committee of Women in Islamic Spirituality and Equality and is a member of the Muslim Women’s Global Shura Council, both of which aim to promote women’s rights and human rights from an Islamic perspective.
By Sumbul Ali-Karamali, Special to CNN
(CNN) - My father always told me never to talk about religion, politics, or other people’s children. He was part of a generation of American Muslims who wanted to stay quiet and assimilate into American life and not rock the boat. Growing up in Southern California, I tried to follow his advice.
But after 9/11, I found that I, along with other American Muslims, have had little choice but to talk about religion.
Although countless Muslims have condemned the acts of 9/11 in the United States and worldwide, American Muslims became objects of suspicion.
The 9/11 terrorists broke numerous laws of Islam and were denounced as mass murderers by Islamic religious leaders. Even so, Islam is viewed as a religion preaching violence.
In the aftermath, amidst the fear and anger, many American Muslims realized that the reason Americans were so quick to believe the worst about Muslims after the horrific attacks of 9/11 was that Americans knew little about even the most basic tenets of Islam.
And we realized that if we didn’t explain our beliefs and traditions, then other people would write our stories for us.
Despite our efforts, that’s exactly what has happened.
Although 9/11 did compel some Americans to learn more about Islam, it also triggered a wave of anti-Islam feeling that has burgeoned. And though there have been interfaith initiatives, books on Islam, documentaries, education efforts, and shows like "All-American Muslim," polls show that Americans’ negative views of Islam have increased since 9/11, not decreased.
Such trends cannot help but discourage even the most optimistic of American Muslims; many of us are more fearful now than a decade ago, and entire Muslim communities feel besieged.
Anti-mosque incidents have escalated in recent years. Earlier this summer, a mosque in Joplin, Missouri, burned to the ground. Last year, Roger Stockham was arrested with explosives outside the Islamic Center in Dearborn, Michigan. An arson fire seriously damaged a mosque in Wichita, Kansas, last year. And incidents of mosque vandalism have become more common.
Hate groups have been on the rise, too; one of the most horrific hate crimes was the murder of Shaima Alawadi, a young mother who had received anonymous notes calling her a terrorist.
Almost every Islamic studies professor or speaker I personally know - whether they are Muslim or not - receives hate mail and sometimes death threats.
How has this happened in our country? There are many reasons. It is not simply a lack of information about American Muslims, but also misinformation and, in many cases, outright fabrications about what Islam entails and what Muslims believe. An example of one of the most ridiculous is the assertion that Muslims cannot abide dogs; we are so evil, apparently, that man’s best friend is our enemy. (See Muslims with Dogs, a website that flippantly dispels this nonsense.)
The Center for American Progress issued a report in 2011 which documented a small but extremely well-funded network of anti-Islam fear-mongers who have worked diligently to spread misinformation about Islam. Directly or indirectly, these fear-mongers fomented the “ground zero mosque” hysteria, promoted the film “The Third Jihad,” which the New York Police Department showed as a training video - and was strongly criticized for doing so - and have been responsible for Islamophobic advertisements on public buses all over the country.
This anti-Islam rhetoric has been connected to violence, too: Anders Breivik, who murdered more than 70 people in Norway, cited anti-Islam bloggers numerous times in his manifesto, in which his stance against “Islamization” was a clear theme.
It’s not just a lack of information on Islam that American Muslims have had to battle, it is an increasing body of vitriolic myths and tall tales about Islam and Muslims that we continually have to explain or dismiss.
Particularly frightening is the eagerness with which public figures and political officials have leapt onto the Islamophobia bandwagon. Peter King’s “Muslim radicalization” hearings, Michele Bachmann’s baseless accusations of public officials being linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, and the NYPD’s long-term spying on Muslim communities (which produced no leads) are just several examples of the increasing demonization of every Muslim and, increasingly, the entire religion of Islam.
Rising anti-Islamic sentiment in America troubles Muslims
Islam is the second-largest religion in the world, and Muslims comprise more than one-fifth of the world’s population. No religion can flourish for 1,400 years without being flexible and adaptable.
The defamatory rhetoric directed at Muslims and Islam in this country has little to do with the actual religion or its adherents and everything to do with fear of the Other.
For American Muslims, the past decade has been tumultuous. We have emerged from private life to public life, into the public sphere in an effort to aid understanding between the communities of our multicultural country.
We do it not only for ourselves, but because irrational fear of Islam and Muslims is bad for all Americans: it frays the social fabric of our society; it creates divisions between Americans; it affects the health of our democracy; and it affects the wisdom of our policy choices.
In the last decade, I have encountered numerous Americans who understand this and who, despite the fear-mongers, have made remarkable efforts to connect with Muslims.
Recently, I spoke at a Jewish temple as part of their educational series. They broke into spontaneous applause during my talk on Islam and women, and gave me a standing ovation at the end.
They were one of the many moving examples of generosity and openness I have encountered in the past decade. And that, despite the discouragement and fear, is what gives me hope for the future.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Sumbul Ali-Karamali.
People need to stop taking 9/11 out on American Muslims who were just as devastated by the tragedy as the rest of the country. We're not Al-queda, just like all Christians aren't the KKK. These terrorists are a small bunch of poor twisted shmucks living in caves and plotting warfare. It's sad that the fear of Islam has been perpetuated in this country, and its obviously a propaganda tool being used to justify two senseless wars that have drained our country economically and resulted in global devestation in both the Middle East and South Asia, not to mention the amount of American soldiers that died needlessly defending their country against an intangible enemy named "terror", which unfortunately comes in all colors, shapes and sizes.
Atheist here and at first glance, I can safely say that Christian's don't force their women to walk around in cloth bags. So that's a point for Christian's in my book.
Once moderate Muslims start condemning their extreme counterparts, we can talk.
This "forcing women to wear the veil" BS refers specifically to Wahabism in Saudi Arabia, or the type of Islam that persists in poor, tribal villages in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The majority of the Muslim world that is not either poverty starved or living in Saudi Arabia have renounced these customs. Even within Saudi Arabia there is a resistance to the Wahabi kingdom, which uses a strict radical intepretation of Islam to oppress and control its citizens.
You mean except those compounds where they wear prairy dresses, or the mainstream church leaders who talk about doing that but lack the power to make it happen?
Plenty of their moderates do condemn their extremist counterparts. I hear them all the time. They've also made the most powerful statement: they voted with their feet. The said "screw these guys" and moved here.
The difference between Christian and Muslim extremists is degrees of desperation.
Meeks – I think you are wrong – the Muslim women on my street are covered head to toe – are rarely seen outside of the house and when they do they make sure to not look at anyone. It's freaking creepy.
The KKK has been contained by the US. You've done nothing to contain the anti-American, anti-west, antisemitic radical hatred prevalent in nearly all Muslim communities. You've never accepted any blame for anything. All you do is deflect. There will be more clashes.
Woah woah woah. First of all, saying that the radical violent anti-semetic, anti-American sentiment is prevelant in nearly ALL Muslim communities is a gross misconception. I have been a part of several muslim communities in the states and not ONE of them harbor resentment towards other nations or religions. Secondly, why on earth should I accept blame for Al-Queda, and why should I have to associate my religion with those nutjobs? You didn't personally stop the KKK, and I wouldn't ask you to take the blame for their sadistic viewpoints.
CNN's landing page pretty much says it all. On the left, we see a story of Egyptians storming the US Embassy, desecrating our flag and replacing it with an Islamic flag. One would not be hard stretched to see that the global policy from the majority of Islamic nations is strikingly anti-US. Why would any Muslim – who must put their interpretation of god above all else – even wish to belong to a country that stands for freedom of religion, speech and expression?
I don't get it. they bombed us but they live in fear. i feel so bad for them (sarcasm)
They bombed us, but they live in fear."
No, terrorists from Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia bombed us, and your fellow Americans live in fear because you fail to distinguish between them.
Idiot. American Muslims did not bomb you. You're thinking of the militant terrorist group Al-Queda. They should live in fear because they're fanatical lunatics. American Muslims, however, have lives and viewpoints about society that are probably similar to yours, but they have to worry about being harrassed every day because of the way they look.
As long as you realize that the first "they" is different from the second "they", then things make sense. The first "they" should refer to terrorists, while the second "they" should refer to American Muslims who were twice as devastated as other Americans on 9/11. Twice. One, just as all Americans were, and Two, because of what followed and what the article describes.
Tolerance has gotten us right where we are. Third world countries living dark age fashion filled with barbaric, uncivilized people.
I'm an atheist and not a fan of religion in general but even we atheists can see that Islam is inherently worse and more dangerous than any of it's Abrahamic or Dharmatic counterparts. It has to go.
You limit 1 religion in America and you spit on the entire concept that make up America. Islam is not the only religion to be used in violence.
You should really study Islam as a religion before commenting on it. The psychos that bombed the trade center were no more representative of the religion as a whole than Tim McVeigh represents Christianity.
WOW! You say that like the author of this was crying about something with no merit while Muslim / Islamist / Radical Hate Mongers were storming US Embassies in places like Egypt!! Oh wait, THEY ARE... The author must be out of touch with reality to write such a blatantly, head-in-the-sand article calling for "Tolerance" on the National Patriot Day, while the group he his saying is soooo 'mistreated' that they are – ONCE AGAIN!- creating International Hate Acts against the USA... How long before more die for the 'hateful' cartoon of their 'deity'?!? Or Homicide Bombers attacking people who question their "peacefulness" due to their Homicide Bombings?!?!?! But then, he and his ilk – of every creed and ethnicity and race and gender never 'get' that violence is "BAD", while distrust of those who PERPETRATE it is just natural HUMAN reaction...
Leave my country or get with it. No religion is favored, all may be practiced. We went first and Europe followed us, freeing themselves from Mother Church as best they could until most of the world had given up the insane idea of State Religion. I practice no faith but I persecute no one.
CNN, This article is a slap on the face of Americans on the anniversary of 9/11. I'd appreciate if you published an article on the mayhem created on that day, and sufferings of families of the thousands dead that day, instead of talking high about the aggressors.Nice judgement on part of CNN.
Going by the same judgement, we hope CNN is getting an article ready to be published on November 22, about how Lee Harvey Oswald was inconvenienced after the shooting at the police custody.
Stop the 'victim' mentality. This piece is perfectly timed so that we remember what religious extremism of any creed can do. As was said on another forum at CNN:
Extremism in science will fly you to the heavens
Extremism in religion will fly you into buildings.
The point of the article is that despite Americans like you, who lump all Muslims together and hate them, most American Muslims have come here to join us in a place where you can leave your religion at home and it will still be there when your workday is over. Stop driving them back to their radical uncles when what they really want is to get rid of the burkhas and go clubbing; they are here with us, not over there burning stuff. Ever see "Rock the Casbah" by The Clash? There's your conflict – we are more culturally vital than Islam. They don't have a chance. Justin Bieber is kicking Mohammed's can down the street and I'm loving it. Way too many of those veiled women know they look like Kardashians if they could get away from Daddy long enough to dress down.
You posted this story on September 11th?
Wow. CNN, I am done with you now. Officially, forever.
CNN, this is completely irresponsible and insensitive to post on 9/11. You couldn't pick any of the other 364 days in a year to spew your anti-American, pro-Islam drivel?
Wow, you don't pick up on sub-text do you? This piece is perfectly timed. American muslims are no more responsible for 9/11 than Christians are responsible for Tim McVeigh.
how many middle eastern people have moved to the US vs. how many Americans have moved to the middle east... that number tells a very interesting fact-
America is a great place to live and have a family, the middle east is a good place to go if you like war and fairy tales about allah and religion
And so they should – the door into and out of this country swings both ways – use it!!!
take your own advice.
Good law biding muslins arnt living in fear of people of color. America knows where the hate comes from.
I was shocked to have received an update from CNN describing yet another violent takeover of a US Embassy (this time in Egypt) by Islamocists, right after reading this article.
Yes, Now Washington wants to give Egypt a1.3 Billion to help them. REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to take care of us (America).
US Muslims can go enjoy the Arab Spring. Today 9/11 is storming the US Embassy Day in Cairo.
It's september 12th in Egypt.
Wasn't when the embassy was stormed.
Really? Ever since 9/11, I had been living in fear and I am not a Muslim. I am afraid to go up tall building or onto a plane. I can't even watch the shows that show people jumping off of the burning towers. That event affected everybody, not just a certain group of people. Stupid article...
Opinion: US Muslims live in fear
FACT: US citizens live in fear...of Muslims
If you don't like America feel free to return where you came from. Bye, Bye
Try wearing a "Jesus Saves" T-shirt in Riyadh. Then you will experience true fear.
Maybe throw on a Star of David necklace in downtown Bagdad and see how far you can walk.
So stop bashing Americans CNN. We are the single most tolerant society in the world.
Have you been reading this comments section?
There is something wrong with you if you associate your fellow Americans who are Muslim more with Egyptians that took down the flags on our embassy in Egypt than with your neighbors. I say that to Muslim and nonMuslim Americans alike. We are all Americans. Cut the us vs them crap out. We are all Americans.
Sorry to tell you but they all believe the same thing and they want for you to either be Muslim or dead. US, Egypt, Saudi, it doesn't matter they are all the same and will feel justified in doing anything to you because of their vengeful and hateful "god".
oh stop it. Muslims no more believe the same thing than all Christians believe that blacks are evil. Grow up.
The problem is NOT that WE do not think Moslems are fellow Americans, but tthat THEY do not think of THEMSELVES as Americans.
Not all American Muslims are peaceful (look at videos taken in Dearborn MI). There are VERY few peaceful muslims in the middle east. What did the peaceful muslims in Egypt do today? The very last thing any American wants to hear is your violin on 9/11. If it is so horrible for you to live here I will personally purchase a ticket to send you home, where your rights as a woman will be almost zero, you can then write about REAL fear.
Not all American Christians are peaceful either. Maybe we should buy you a plane ticket back to the country of your origin.
Do you even know how to think for yourself? There are far more Non-muslim americans committing violence against both muslim and non-muslim americans. Do you have any statistics to site in support of your bigotted remarks? NO! Islam is actually a religion of peace. You want to take tha actions of a few extremists and generalize those actions to the whole of Islam. I am a christian by birth, but I am ashamed of hate mongerers like you that espouse hatred for a religion that you know nothing about because you read a story in the news paper about a few extremists. This country was founded by immigrants and tolerence, now you want to step back into the dark ages and spew hatred for the sake of hatred. You should be ashamed, and I hope you do not consider yourself a good christian because christianity preaches forgiveness and acceptance, not you vile hatred that is destroying what used to be a great country.
All religions are cults. The comments on this article prove the ignorance of most people. Give peace a chance.
Stan, it isn't totally a question of religion, but also of culture and history. Blaming religion is too simplistic.
I agree, no such thing as baby jesus and allal... oh, and no santa clause either...
If you embrace Islam whole-heartedly, then you can NEVER be an American. Islam is in direct opposition to what the U.S. stands for. You can identify yourself as one, or the other, but not both. Muslims in this country are going to have to choose. The ones that choose to consider themselves American, and live the American lifestyle will have nothing to fear. As for the others... well.... hopefully Allah will protect you.
If you want to get that technical about it, the same holds true for Christians. Your bible advocates stoning adulterers, sacrificing children 'because god says so', and preaches war, violence, and slavery.
They need to ligve and embrace the american lifestyle? What the hell is that? So, Bubba, you think the should drink beer and watch Jerry Springer all day like you? Stupid is as stupid does, is that your arguement? the american lifestyle is whatever lifestyle I or anyone else chooses to live. You want conformity of lifestyle you are not an american and should move to China. They will make sure that you live the state mandated Chinese Lifestyle. You should go back to your basement, squirt and generous amount of glue into a paperbag and continue inhaling. Your brain is already mush so if you keep going it will soon liquify and run out of your nose and ears and america will be a better place.
See the CNN front page NOW!!!
'Protesters climb U.S. Embassy walls in Cairo'
Then they ask why we hate them so much. Losers...
ahhh but they are soooooo peaceful!!!!
It is unfortunate MS Karmali again chose to shed crocodile tears. When Muslim terrorist kills 160 people in Mumbai, there is glee in their faces(thoughly not in public due to fear of world!). She again chose to deny facts. They never tells their wrongdoers to stop. " Islam do not preach violance" Anybody want to check read chapter 4 & 9 on Koran.org. Muslims killed 80 million Hindus in India, this is history. Read Babarnama, Akbarnama, they themswlves wrote it with pride. Allah is merciful to muslims only. What to do to non-believers again read Koran. I have read it and it gives me shivers.
One Word timothy mcveigh can you brand all Christians as killers?
I can brand all Christians (and all religious people for that matter) as stupid idiots – they believe in fairy tales written 2k years before their supposed god was even born... talk about nonsense!!
The distrust of Moslems is more about them joining our military and then shooting our troops in the back or fragging them in thier tents.. It is moslems blowing up moslems and other innocents in many countries arround the world, 9/11 is only one incident, Okay, a big one, but killing innocents is a way of life for some moslems.. terrorzing little girls that want to go to school, throwing acid in their faces or posioning them in school... Waring moslem sects have killed more moslems , before, during, and after we invaded/iberated Iraq and Afghanistan, and they will continue to terrorize each other even if there wasn't a USA.. they did it before there was a USA , Our first foreign war was against the moslem Pirates back in Jefferson's day,.. They were killing infidel innocents back then, and they are still hijacking ships.. they still run a slave trade to this day.. Only a fool would believe all the distrust of moslems is about 9/11 , I mean the second attack on the WTC on 9/11, maybe the aircraft hijacking of the 70's and 80's the first attempt to blowup the WTC might figure into a pattern that could lead to a little distrust.. which do you fear more.. living with the taliban in afghanistan or living here in the USA... By their fruits you shall know them.. Moslems have earned our distrust by a long history of killing innocents. You think we fear you.. not really.. we don't trust you, and we do suspect that given a chance you will shoot us in the back like happen in Texas, or you might try to ignite your underware or blow up a pizza parlor, but thats only because somehing along those lines happens almost daily somewhere in the world.. as far as standing up against the terrorists ,, I hope you do, and I would stand up beide you, if it wasn't for the fact some Iman somewhere is going to put an officially religiously sanctioned hit out on you for speaking against terroism, and there is a pretty fair chance one of your moslem neighbors will be inspired to kill you in the name of honor or your own religion. I don't care what religion you are, even moslems aren't safe from moslem terroists,..if anything moslems have the most to fear from their own, even here in the USA, if you look at the overall situation.
They live in less fear here then they do in Iran.
So long as a Muslim, in the name of Allah, can throw women down water wells, cut off their noses, stone them to death, and burn them alive all because they winked at a man or drove a car, ISLAM WILL AWAYS BE A VIOLENT RELIGION of a prehistoric barbarian Neandrethalic proportion. You Muslims do NOT have my sympathy.
Our Bible isn't full of love and peace either. Actually, there are quite a few pretty cruel things in there and I'm saying this as a Christian. I do think it's poor taste to have this article run today however.
True Christians don't believe in all of that old testiment mumbo jumbo. Please read the new testement and then you will understand why the Muslims hate us...Jesus said that he is the "New Covenant" and all of that old testiment blather means nothing. The majority of the Muslim worls is still trying to fall for that "virgins in heaven" idiodicy.,
The thing is, it is true that the ancient world was brutal. But, we have EVOLVED and they have not. That is an undeniable fact. We don't stone people or cut off their hands etc.
Isn't it great how the Muslims in Egypt took this day to attack our embassy. Didn't we allow them to overthrow a peaceful government during this "Arab Spring"? I am sorry to tell you and any other Muslims that want to listen, we don't trust you, we know you have an agenda to move us back into the stone ages along with the rest of the Muslim world and we don't beleave in your twisted hateful god who isn't real to begin with. We will not let this imaginary spirit in the sky run our lives and don't trust anyone who does. Don't like it? Move.
know what scares me jboHDrider? is that we will let them send us all back to the stone ages – that we'll all be so completely committed to being politically correct and committed to tolerance that they'll take us over slowly. It scares the crap out of me honestly. When will we all wake up. I have tried to be tolerant/friendly of/to them – but they could care less. The appear angry and as I've stated in my other comments, their response to my neighborly overtures is disconcerting at best.
probably because of the article directly to the left of this one on our main page where their muslim counterparts overseas are storming our isht and tearing down our flags protesting us in some random country we have nothing to do with
In other news, an embassy in Egypt is attacked by Muslims. LOL
put it this way: if the current efforts is all mainstream American muslims can muster, in terms of separating themselves from extremists, that's pretty sad. Muslims' allegiance is to each other. They prove it over and over again. When a Christian bombs an abortion clinic, that Christian is promptly tried and convicted, and otherwise condemned. Muslims, on the other hand, would be rioting in the streets and throwing rocks at the police, and otherwise demanding the release of the criminal, if that criminal were a muslim.
Wow, all I can state is welcome to the world of American HATE my Muslim bruthas and sisters. We (African Americans) have lived with it for 500+ years.
500 years huh? And you are comparing apples to oranges my friend.
...and still whining about it I see...have you ever been to Africa?
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic. The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else......Theodore Roosevelt, 1915
I am not a particularlly racist man, altough I don't trust any religion and Islam the least of all. With that said, I can tell you that you can move to the mideast with your Muslim "Brothers" whenever you are ready. I imagine your on welfare anyway.
Its responses like this that lead people to think your ignorant. If life is better elsewhere move to Africa, then we'll see how long it is before you come crawling back to the good old USA. Muslims that are fearful can move back to the Middle East or France.
The reason OBL failed in his mission is that he ended up damaging islam more than any other person or event in history.
They probably should be when their brothers and sisters storm our embassy in Egypt, disrespect our flags, (which should outrage Muslims here since it's the flag of THEiR country too).
On the same CNN front page as this opinion piece: "Angry protesters climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on Tuesday and hauled down the American flag, replacing it with a black flag with Islamic emblems." Americans living in Egypt have a lot more to be worried about than Muslims in this country.
Islam is Islam wherever you find it.
Any religion which requires as one of its basic tenets the forcible conversion of all non-Muslims to Islam is inherently dangerous. We have seen examples of the horror of such forced conversions practically every day of the last decade or more.
Nope, it is not the same. Well, in your mind it is. Thankfully we all out here live unconditioned by bigoted beliefs.
There are several Muslim families who live in my neighborhood and at least 2 on my block. I pass my Muslim neighbors DAILY. Every day I smile and wave. They make eye contact – do not return the smile or the wave – not so much as a head nod. I am making an effort to be friendly, but it does bother me that they do not return this friendliness. I can pass them ON FOOT and smile, say hi and still – the rude stare and nothing of remote neighbor-like or friendly behavior is returned. I would love to know what the reason for this is.
It could be fear.
Look, I have the same issue with my Chinese neighbors but I realize they don't speak english and perhaps their culture is less inclined to acknowledge people on the street. The point is, don't take it personally.
That's a pants load, they are racist who consider us to be "infidels" and they would galdly do away with you if they could get awway with it.
I have chinese neighbors as well, and also hispanic/latin neighbors – most of who speak little to no english. They smile, wave back and even bring me food with nothing but smiles because none of us know each others language. I think it's something else with the Muslim neighbors. It's very disconcerting.
I have had this experience countless times when out shopping and so forth.
Non-Muslims have a difficult time getting it through our heads that Muslims DO NOT LIKE US. We are infidels. We are to be shunned or (for the more proactive Muslims), we are to be converted to Islam at s wordpoint.
That's easy – they can say hi to an infidel! If thhey could, they probably buts out a knife and chop your head off. All in the name of allah, of course because that makes it okay.
Hey Sumbul, Take a long walk off a short bridge.
I love all the replies of the media blinded left who support all those "good peaceful humble muslims". Ask one, have you read the qu'ran? They bring up Christianity and the Old Testament (modern Christianity uses the New Testament for the basis of it's religion" not perfect but you get the picture) islam uses the qu'ran (modern translations can be fund on the C.A.R.E. website in English). How is Europe doing with groups of peaceful muslims burning cars and buildings, chanting allah ackbar, death to western laws and the west, jews, christians, other muslims who don't follow the cleric of the day. And how about educated westernized muslim men carrying out honor killings. If these peaceful muslims even exist are they really peaceful, kind loving people who have abandoned muhammeds surras of submission and intolerance? Or is there a "newer kinder version" that we infidels arn't privy too?
Islam is a plague on civilization wherever it is found - as you have rightfully pointed out. Europe is learning its lesson the hard way - just as America will when the number of Muslims here is large enough to begin controlling things.
Of course CNN, instead of paying respect to the victims of Islam you post this garbage trying to make Islam out to be the victim. True, all religions have blood on their hands, but Islam's are soaked the the bone with it. Their religion is based in fear, and no matter how many times they try to claim otherwise, the actions of their religion prove them wrong. Maybe if Muslims would acknowledge that their religion has a serious problem and try to do something about it people might think differently. But no, instead they deflect all blame and try to blame everyone else. And what's this, breaking news? Oh, a huge group of angry Muslims are storming the US Embassy in Egypt because something offended their "peaceful" religion. Once again, CNN, you've failed. You've disrespected the victims and their families in order to support the religion that caused their deaths.
AGREED with you 100%!
Ah yes, more using the story of victims to explain why it is ok to harass people who had nothing to do with it....
As for blood.. no Christian has any room to talk about the blood on the hands of other religions. Our bodycount outstripps Islam by a wide margin... and you know what? Most Christians are still good people. Just like most Muslims are still good people.
You need to back up your BS filled tirade with some facts. Even if you add up all religouis murders in history, I bet Islam would still be the big winner in killing others. If you count only more modern times, say the last 100 years, it's not even close, westerners become more and better educated, less hate filled and Muslims simply don't. They cling to their evil prehistoric religion and will attack anyone who disagrees with them whenever possible.
GREAT GREAT GREAT post WillH85!!!
The Muslims were victimized by this terrorist as well.
I think the bigger issue today is why is CNN devoting any part of this day to defending Muslims?
This is not their day it is our day and as an American owned company which I thought CNN was this story belongs somewhere below what Lindsay Lohan stole at her latest party.
Sorry but you don't have a voice you lost it when the planes hit the buildings and landed in the field.
I'm sorry if I stare a little longer or cast doubt at you with my eyes but I don't trust you or your friends and never will.
Call me shallow, bigot, racist or whatever term you want just don't call me a murder.
CNN you should be ashamed not everyone has a seat at the table on this day, this PC garbage has got to stop put the "Muslims have rights" story away fro another time.
"we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining." – President Bush, 2001.
"You don't have a voice, you lost it when ..."
Perhaps, the terrorists succeeded in turning off the beacon of freedom after all.
"I think the bigger issue today is why is CNN devoting any part of this day to defending Muslims?"
Because they were also victims of these attacks. American Muslims died in those towers, and others who didn't support the attacks died at the hands of bigots afterward.
"Sorry but you don't have a voice you lost it when the planes hit the buildings and landed in the field."
So the actions of a few dozen unrelated people invalidate every member of the religeon? Do you lose your voice because of the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church or the people who kill abortion doctors?
"Call me shallow, bigot, racist or whatever term you want just don't call me a murder."
Why not. You share the same religion with people who have committed murder and other atrocities, and according to you that means your hands are stained.
"CNN you should be ashamed not everyone has a seat at the table on this day, this PC garbage has got to stop put the "Muslims have rights" story away fro another time."
You are evidence that this is the exact time this story is needed.
I guess we couldn't have a 9/11 rememberance without moslem whining. And that is one strategy of their stealth jihad against us. To make us think islam is not to blame. Why don't islam's "useful idiots" know about history and how those types (useful idiots) have helped totalitarian types of laws (sharia), governments, etc have taken over and sold out their own people? Or how come none of those "useful idiots" have asked: What radicalizes a moslem? OR why they don't know that part of zakat is required to fund the violent jihadists? Or why don't they know that not one moslem group even cares about the real victims of the over 19,000 violent jihadist attacks that have taken place worldwide and only worry that we criticize islam? (it is forbidden for non-moslems to criticize islam per sharia).
I am ashamed that any news organization, academic, politician, and especially religious leaders don't know islam yet and only listen to moslem whining and oh... deception – something that is made good and holy in islam.
dems want a great future for the farm, farmer, spouse, kids granny and granpa and want the farm to be safe and healthy for all, including the animals etc.
repubs only want a great and very rich future for the farmer....to heck with all the rest, family, land, animals..everything. love and admire the rich farmer, even if the world around him goes down the drain
This BS from a TeaOPer with no regard for his fellow mankind, no care for anyone but himself. I guess you are mad because a hungry kid got to eat today, that just shows the level of your intelect and hatefullness.
Ironically, here's the the article next to this one on the CNN main page:
Protesters climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on Tuesday and hauled down its American flags, replacing them with black flags with Islamic emblems.
A pox on your house, and leprocy for you, Joe.
Islam is a violent cult and America does itself a disservice by allowing musliim brain-washed sots to immigrate here and infest our country.
"we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining." – President Bush, 2001.
Don't turn off the beacon.
Put any other religion (except maybe Buddhism) in that sentence and it still applies.
Good, I hope that they do live in fear. They need to know that we will not bow down to Sharia law..however, our President would love Sharia law
Obama Killed more muslim then Bush not taking to account the civilians that were killed in Iraq during the war.
Please stop the Sharia Law BS
I am constanly amazed that you Teaopers are so prejudice that you make up out right lies. You are a liar. Why don't you try telling the truth to prove a valid point instead of being a LIAR? The disrespect to our President just astounds me.
Back during "The Troubles" countless law abiding Ameircans of Irish descent funneled countless millions of dollars to the Irish Republican Army. My opinion then (and I'm an Irish American) was that they were supporting terrorism.
My concern today is that countless "law abiding" Moslem Americans are doing the same thing, only in this instance, the ultimate goal is the downfall of America as we know it and a move toward becoming a Moslem state.
No matter what religion, the key is education and an open mind. Unfortunately, most islamic nations are poor and don't have access to global perspective of the world and are easily influenced by islamic extremists who rule these nations with an iron fist. And because of those people, Islam in general is getting a bad name. That's not to say there aren't any educated muslim fundamentalists, or that the religion is not flawed. Almost all religions are.
I want to sympathize with the author, because I know a lot of wonderful muslim people, but the fact of the matter is people like her need to reach out and spread the positive aspects of Islam to their ignorant kin (since they are not likely to listen to nonmuslim people) and work to stop the extremists. Not all America hates muslims- we are willing to work with them to spread the message of tolerance and acceptance. You need to step up to do that.
I say let's force them all to eat bacon. Bacon is good.
Look on the bright side Sumbul Ali-Karamali. You don't live in the Middle East. I know I do. If I did, I probably would have been tolerantly kidnapped, tortured, and killed pretty quickly in some parts. P.S. Cry me a river.
I am a huge CNN fan but it was a colossal mistake to post this article today. Today is about the victims of September 11th. It isn't about Muslims or any other religious group. If I had a family member who died as a result of this tragedy this article is the last thing on earth that I want to log into CNN and read on this day. In conjunction with this, if Muslims were truly living in fear they have choices just as we all do in this country. They can continue living in fear or simply leave. We cannot control the actions of others just as we could not control the actions of those who took so many lives in this tragedy.
How about an article about white people living in Muslim countries?
I see a lot of people proclaiming what a great place this is to live and in the next breath unleashing bigotry, intolerance, and fear. The only relevant question for them: should any innocent American live in fear?
As far as I am concerned, they can all go to the "furthest sanctuary" - Mars.
"Joe" your obviously not an American. To bad it was not one of your relatives sitting at their desk working to support their family. Maybe your father or even your brother because it would not have been a female relative since they are not allowed to live as commond individuals. Same goes for Rasheed, another ignorant want to be American Muslim. Please leave our country at your earliest convinience. You're the ones making real peaceful Muslim look bad.
Here is the difference between Christians and Muslims.
Christianity teach peace, love, and turning the other cheek. Islam teaches intolerance and hate. The problem is that Christians don't practice their religion enough while Muslims practice theirs to much.
No one wants to distrust another religion but when it is used as a sounding board to instigate violence, people need to protect themselves. Being against all Muslims may not be politically correct, but if you know there is one poison cherry in the bunch, you reject the whole bowl as a previous poster mentioned. Muslims shouldn't be surprised by natural reaction people have against them.
Dude. We read you the first time, and you were wrong from the beginning. The article applies directly to you: you are represent the relentless misinformation-conveying Christian caught up in fear and hate accusing Islam of preaching the same fear and hate. Do you even have the pinch of self-reflection to see this? Or are you blind to irony?
You know if we have to live with The Patriot Act because of what MUSLIMS did its only fair that they live in fear also!
Want fear? Try being a Christian in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, etc. Try being the "wrong" flavor of Islam in any of those countries.
Fear is sitting in a cafe in Jerusalem with your family hoping some lunatic doesn't blow you up. Naal abuk!
Want even more fear? Try being a muslim apostate, an atheist or agnostic, a gay person, or a jew in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Iran etc. I don't care is muslims live in fear in USA. Most of them chose to come, so if you don't like it then drop Islam (don't tell anyone, else fear being murdered as apostate), or leave the nation.
Dear Sumbul Ali-Karamali....I agree with the comments above and wonder if you are actively pursuing any of the terrorists that purport to belong to your your religion. If not I would advise you to keep your mouth shut and let someone else eradicate them.
They live in FEAR in the US, while Christians in THEIR countries are put to death for no reason. Sounds like we're still the more tolerant ones. Maybe they should meet us half way before judging our reaction their everyday atrocities against anyone who ISN'T one of them!
reading these posts in the majority is why muslims are apprehensive to reach out to the masses,funny i grew up christian taught but saw very little love or forgiveness PRACTICED.Dont make all those people live through these attrocities again it doesnt heal anything.religions dont terrorize people people do.
Sorry for those people who live in FEAR ......
come back home guys – there is nothing left in US... it is the most in-Debt state and soon is going to go BANKRUPT. We might have to collect money as Charity for them... it is only few days left that DOLLAR will worth PAPER and people on the streets begging for food..
Jewish Temple? There is only one Jewish Temple and it was destroyed and is sitting in Jerusalem at the Temple Mount. To say the term Jewish Temple implies that a synagogue is the new Temple and this will never be. We have the reformed Jewish movement to thank for this misnomer which is used by those that today try to discount the Jewish connection to Jerusalem.
They must be having something in their mind and heart that is why they live in fear.
Anywhere they visit once becomes their holy land.
Most of other religions and free societies give and vows to give equal rights to women which Islam does not permit.
They are ready to fight and in war mode if it comes to their religion for believes.
"we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining." – President Bush, 2001.
When you hate your fellow Americans for nothing more than their religion, when you choose the us vs them mentality, when you fail to distinguish between terrorists and innocents, you destroy the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world.
President Bush was right that no one could take our freedom from us, but it appears that we are fully willing to destroy our own freedom of religion. We have great excuses for why this is justified, why our fellow Americans who have committed no wrong deserve to have their freedoms stripped away. They have the same religious faith as those who have committed great wrongs toward our nation, so we should destroy their freedom just to be safe. Great excuses to destroy the beacon of liberty. Great excuses indeed.
Which branch of Islam are they, the other branch of Islam is who they should fear since muslims have killed more of their fellow muslims than all others combined over the centuries.
It is very easy to make a judgement like this. Quran talked about every aspect of humans life including war and war rules of engagement. As part of war rules it definitely regulates every single detail.For example, you fight agressors. whoever attacks you or your family,whether muslim or non muslim, you have to fight back bravely to stop the aggression. It also tells you not to be an agressor. My point is not to take a sentence out of the context and build a judgement. So, if you say that quran talks about killing, I would answer, yes, but as part of the war rules and it even has more details that talk about that you only fight the person that carries a weapon and tryin to kill you and never harm any one that does not carry weapon and not trying to hurt you. I am still talking about the rules during war when you are fighting back an agressor whoever it could be. So, this is not a subject that does not have very strict boundaries.
"The 9/11 terrorists broke numerous laws of Islam and were denounced as mass murderers by Islamic religious leaders."
This is so untrue, and is the cause of the animosity towards Muslims. You never hear Muslim leaders condemming acts of violence perpetrated by muslim extremists. Their loyalty has been towards other muslims, extremists or not. If most muslims are not extremists, they should stand united against those that are making their religion into something it is not, and use the voice of the masses. If they dont, then being afraid comes with the territory of not condemming the bully.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!! They "denounce" terrorism in something barely louder than a whisper, and even then usually only with qualifications such as ".....BUT America must look at what it did" or something similar. In America, Muslims' primary goal should be the expulsion of violent, extremist types from mainstream Islamic circles, but instead, they put all their efforts into groups like CAIR, whose primary goal is to convince as many Americans as possible to roll over and pee themselves, and otherwise apologize to Muslims for practically everything. Otherwise, their brain power is invested in crooked professors with ties to Hezbollah or in Islamic leaders in NYC, who make no secret at all about their goal to transform the U.S. into an Islamic nation.
Thanks to what hateful Muslims did on 9-11, we now ALL live in fear...of muslims. Especially when on airplanes.
The reason that so many people still lump nearly all American Muslims together with the terrorists is precisely because American Islam has yet to effectively divorce itself from the terrorists.
The author claims that numerous Islamic religious leaders have condemned terrorism, and yet, the actions of mainstream Islam in America and in many European countries says something radically different.
There are many Islamic leaders who, to this day, proclaim their mission to be the transformation of the United States to an Islamic nation. Already, in Europe, muslims riot in the streets, attack and threaten reporters, and turn otherwise serene neighborhoods into violent, filthy slums. Ask your average Norwegian what he or she thinks of the new Norway, post-influx of muslims.
In London, muslims already have won minor court cases in which the central question was whether they may use Sharia to govern themselves. In western cities throughout the world, muslim families attack and kill their own young women as honor punishments.
Muslims have a solid track record of NOT assimilating. They want what they want, and they demand it, and state the alternative to be violence and death to those who deny them their "right" to transform their westernized neighborhoods into New Beiruit.
Look at their talking heads on the cable news channels, in academia, and in the legal sphere. Do they concentrate on divorcing themselves from the terrorists? No, they concentrate on lecturing Americans about why America should understand the terrorists. They constantly sue cities and employers over bogus claims of religious discrimination. Islamic professors have been known to funnel money to fake charities, who are actually front groups for terrorists.
These people sit in their living rooms and their mosques, and, amongst one another, praise terrorists and denounce America, all while enjoying the umbrella of peace and safety America provides.
It is time for mainstream Muslims- if they truly want peace and assimilation- to stop rationalizing for terrorists, stop going on the talk shows and denouncing our foreign policies, and STOP ALLOWING ISLAMIC LEADERS IN NYC TO PROCLAIM THAT THE FUTURE OF AMERICA IS SHARIA.
You cannot have it both ways. You cannot continue to turn entire neighborhoods into dangerous, trash-ridden Islamic slums, and you cannot continue to threaten the Danes over cartoons, and otherwise wage death and destruction as your first reaction to every little slight, and then whine and cry about how scared you are to live in the United States.
Throw the violent element out of your social sphere, that would be a good starting point. And then, we can talk.
So right. Well stated.
Many Muslims living currently in the U S are still a first generation. Most of them have ties with the country they were born. They have parents, cousins or some kind of relatives living there. In addition to that, they themselves sometime have to visit their original country because of death, marriage, property etc. With family living in countries that are sometimes defined by their level of radicalism in regards to Islam, it is very dangerous for them to say too much against radical Muslims. As one knows, those fanatics don’t even care about their own life, never mind the life of others! They wouldn’t hesitate for a minute to go after those individuals or their relatives. Just to remind you though, not everybody who lives in those countries is a fanatic either, but a sizable portion is. One may say these Muslims living in the U.S. are cowards, running away from these people, but when their innocent relatives’ lives are involved, they have to swallow their pride and keep their mouth shut. I hope those countries change soon, where freedom of speech will be a given right. It might take a long time but it will change. With Internet, technologies that have become symbols of western culture (such as the cell phone), and global trading and global sports, etc., unification is coming through with knowledge. There’s also some help and encouragement from the western countries which may make the process accelerate. (At least we hope it will come.)
I immigrated to the US 1984 when I was 18. I was born in to a Muslim family, not practicing much religion ever. I was busy running my own business since 1989 (actually employing many born American citizen) and raising my two boys with my wife. One of our kids is in gifted group of students in school, another one is computer wizard, building his own computer since he was 12, and with them we never talk about any religion. We tell them to get a good education, treat others the way they want to be treated, not to lie, not to cheat, and to treat any living thing with kindness. If there is a god (We are not sure about God’s existence or nonexistence, we find it very hard to prove it either way) he/she will treat you accordingly regardless of your any particular religion. And most of the Muslims that I know off who live in the U.S. are also pretty much like us. Once or twice a year we may attend a Muslim gathering, but that has more to do with a social aspect than a religious aspect. One may get see to an old friend or long lost relative here and there. That’s about it.
So CNN runs this story that "Muslims live in fear" and now has Breaking News of Muslims storming the US embassy in Cairo. This country is turning into bizarro world with this type of media.
Their holy book promises 77 virgins for eternity if a muslim dies while killing a non muslim. My question is: What about the 77 virgins? Don't they have any say in the matter? What kind of 12th century book are these people worshipping?
I would not advise comparing violent reference in the Quran to the Bible. The Bible is WAY worse.
They apparently don't. they stay pure all their lives only to be rewarded with sleeping with a terrorist
Muslims live in fear??????? Really???? Tell that to the millions upon millions who have dealt with these poor, scared, "peaceful" Muslims in Mali, and Sudan, and Nigeria, and Yemen, and Tunisia, and Philippines, and Thailand, and Iraq, and India, and Kashmir, and Chechnya, and Dagestan, and Indonesia, and Eritrea, and Ethiopia, and Niger, and Morocco, and so on, and so on, and so on.
If you look at the timeline Mohammad did preach peace in the early books, While the Jews still had him under their finger.Once he had developed an army and had some money then it became death to the infidels.Each book of the Koran was written to supersede the one before it.A non radical Muslim is just not a good Muslim.
It saddens me that most all the responses to this very well written article have been filled with hate. As an atheist I don't see much difference in most religions and try to see the person and not faith. The point of this article is people fear the unknown, especially those that appear to be different from us. As children we are afraid of the dark or what might be lurking under our beds as adults we know better. Knowing who your neighbors are is the first step in getting a better sleep and if needed someone close by that can lend a hand when needed. I don't any of this get's through to most of you leaving negative comments but I had the need to say something.
Bingo... for real.
Your use of the word 'hate' for anyone who does not share your belief that Muslims are peace loving people. It is they who are filed with hate and THEY are te ones who will pray upon your naiivity. When you kneel before them due to your weakness, you will look to us to help you.
Here is what the peace-loving Muslims are doing to commemorate 9/11:
"Angry protesters climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on Tuesday and hauled down its American flags, replacing them with black flags with Islamic emblems."
Recently, I was at Subway waiting in line to order my sandwich. There were two muslim guys in front of me waiting to order. When the first one got his turn, he asked the subway employee to take of his gloves and put new ones before he handles his sandwich. He placed his order and asked if the subway employee could get sterlized knife to cut his sandwich. When employee replied no, this person wripped his sandwich into two pieces and handed over a piece to his friend. Finding the familiar Indian face, he smiled at me and said, got to be catious about halaal. I asked him what about the $$$ bills that were touched by pork eating folks?? Its not halaal, its cheap mentality. During their conversation while waiting for the sandwich, they were proudly making fun how they fooled their liberal foolish boss. What I found out to my astonishment in their conversation in Urdu is that they work at Navy and had convinced their foolish white boss to allow them to leave from work at 2pm everyday until Ramadaan month gets over. Long Live the USA!
Guess what? Muslims living OUTSIDE of the United States live in fear too? Fear of their governments, fear of their religion, fear of the Taliban, etc. Muslim women and gays are TERRIFIED of living in Muslim nations. They have it GREAT in the United States which is PRECISELY WHY THEY COME HERE!
When Muslims in this country stand up to the killing of innocent Christians in the Middle East, I may care about what they think. Until then, don't care! We should be thinking more about the victims today instead of a Muslim's so called fear.
Let's be real here. My grandmother used to tell me that if you loved cherries and there was a bowl of cherries in front of you, and someone told you that two were laced with poison, would you eat any of the cherries? No. So if there are a few bad Muslims living in a community of good ones, are you going to trust any of them? No.
Simple. Maybe not fair, but simple.
Sorry, but if we follow your logic, we could say the same of ANY group, be it religious, political, etc. And if we all live in distrust and fear out everybody just because they belong to any given group, fear and hate would reign in our lives. Yes, what you said is simple, and not only that, dangerously simplistic. Try again being real, for your idea only works in and ideal world where there is one group that has never done something bad.
I have seen the hate emails circulated and listened to the anti muslim comments. I do feel for the muslums in this country. The ones I have known have been very good people. Of course, I took the time to get to know them and not let the actions of some lead me to judge all. As an agnostic, I don't have the predjudice toward other religions that the religious might have. Remember this: An attack on one of us is an attack on all, united we stand divided we fall
Since 9-11-01 we ALL live in fear. What's the point here?
Moslems all over world are responsible for fear psychosis in American Moslems. We do not know what Islam teaches but we see how Moslems behave, believe- Ethnic cleansing of non moslems from moslem majority areas asin kashmir. There are communal riots to where ever Moslems in Minority as in Phillipines, India, Burma, Thailand to attract attention of rich middle east coutries and human right activists- un fortunately Human right activists ignore Ethnic cleansing . Moslems punish with death sentence to moslems if they prefer to convert to oher pea e loving religion.
Even in most populous muslim country such as Indonesia some muslims live in fear. The mainstream islam (Sunni) thugs killed Ahmadiyah and Syiah followers while wuslim bombers are waiting for their moment to kill as many people as possible to get those imaginary virgins. See the problem here?
Great article....Our thoughts and hearts go out to all the victims and their families, affected directly or indirectly. And we pray that we (or anyone) never have to go through any events like these ever again.
Muslim by choice or by force?
By choice....just like you are a...mom by choice I am sure
It's so sad to read the responses to this civil call for intelligence. The irony is that some claim lack of "brains" and intelligence of people who practice the Islamic religion just to turn around and judge with the most simplifying unintelligent rhetoric. More disturbingly, Christians of all types speak of the moral superiority of their own religion when they share many horrible historic periods and have their share of violent, hateful and plain bigoted passages in their holy scriptures. Of course, it'll be years before we can wrap our minds around the most basic religious idea that we are all brothers and sisters under the only creator God who, not only doesn't hate us and punishes us (we do that all on our own), but forgives us and loves us all, whether we are Christian, Muslim, Jewish or atheist.
Muslims are nice when they're outnumbered. When they outnumber you...look out
Why do they live in fear? They don't have to. All they have to do is loudly voice there clear condemnation for those that planned, initiated, and executed this plan and plans like these. That would go a long way to help people understand that there is nothing to fear from them.
It is there refusal to call out the improper actions of their brethren that is the root cause of their living in fear. Some of their fear may also come about due to their realization that they do not condemn their brethren because they agree with their actions and fear that others might find out about their condoning of such behavior.
All they have to do is speak up, speak out, and speak against their brethren conducting 9/11 terrorist type behavior.
It seems this article is preaching too much to the wrong audience. Very few instances are given where American Muslims go "preach" this same rhetoric to those whose acts they publicly condemn. I believe that simply trying to "educate" the rest of America about Islam and its actual beliefs is futile while there are still terroristic plots being made. What disturbs me the most is that Ms. Ali-Karamali and the rest of peaceful Muslim Americans should be standing up and "preach" to those who claim to worship the same god you do, but act in totally different ways. Stand up to those who preach violence in the name of your god, not only condemn them, but tell them on their own media networks that they are misguided, that they should be ashamed to have a sacred Muslim name because of the filthy violence they spread. Form alliances against those who wrongfully use your religion as a ploy to establish hate, intolerance, and murder. You've had 11 years and the only thing you can do is complain that YOU are the victims? How about this...I condemn, publicly, every bad thing that has happened to Muslim Americans since 9/11...feel any better?
No such person...American Muslim.
You are so right, it is Muslim American.
Those two names will never go together
Exactly. It's American or Muslim.
If religious leaders were fiery in stating the other religion is just as good and damned be the person who condemns the
other "team," it would make a profound impact. But, it ain't going to happen that they pro-advertise for the other guys
thinking their congregation ( bucks) might get too chummy and jump ship or really realize one is as good as the other.
What religious leader would rather be tarring a roof or digging a ditch?
Do you realize that if they are to be true to the religion they are following, they have to practice particularism (that their religion is the one true religion) because if they didn't, they wouldn't actually be true to their religion... and thus there would be not purpose in practicing?
Much of the hate speech begins in the mosques. What do you do about that? Again, I am not judging, just pointing out some facts. Freedom of speech has responsibilities.
Just ask gay Americans. It comes from churches also.
You have the choice to follow whatever religion you please in the United States. Stop making it seem like gays are victims.
What rock have you been hiding under. My gripe was not that I couldn't join whatever church I wanted. I don't want to join any church. They are all basically the same. They all have their boogey men and gays have historically been their boogey men. Hate speech comes from every church and mosque. How in the world do you think Americans were able to put known gay servicemen in Fort Leavensworth, Kansas in the 40's and 50's. How do you think gays were asked to not speak of their private lives while serving in the military. What rights were they fighting and dying for? Yours? Christians have a more nuanced discriminatory streak. They get politicians to do their dirty work so that their hands stay clean. Texas vs. Lawrence was not heard by the Supreme Court because gays can fully participate in life. It was heard because gays could NOT fully participate in life. You need an education.
Earth calling Americano! Earth to Americano! Gays have been victimized by all religions. Get a clue! Why would they want to join any religion? The ability to join or not join a religion is not their problem. Their freedom FROM religion is the problem.
Simple- There is a reason you came here and we welcome you with open arms. But that's not enough for you.. Tough. You don't like it or its better where you came from GO Back.
I know, I know... Another Cristian rant.. Nope. Jew.. Nope. Just another person sick of hearing the BS.. You aren't special.
@CNN- really on 9-11?
Go back to where? Ignoramuses (Ignorami) like you do the same for "Americans" as terrorists do for "Islam"! These people are American, born and raised, often times several generations in, and choose to practice a different religion than you. Big friggin deal, that's not their problem, it's their country just as much as yours. And reminder: you didn't let them in, stop saying that. Immigrants (even though that's not who we're talking about) did more for this country than you and your closed-minded, short-sighted friends have ever done.
Go get educated on the difference between religion and nationality, and hopefully one day your IQ will flirt with the 3-digit mark that your anscestors once proudly displayed when they identified the need for freedom of religion in the U.S.. I'm sure the last thing they contemplated was some clown like you claiming to own this country and filter which "citizens" can live comfortably in it and who cannot. After all, we're talking about citizens here, does that word not carry any meaning anymore?
"Recently, I spoke at a Jewish temple as part of their educational series. They broke into spontaneous applause during my talk on Islam and women, and gave me a standing ovation at the end."
Wonder what would happen if a rabbi spoke at a mosque about Judaism and women? The unfortunate truth is that the author has a lot more tolerance for other religions then the majority of Muslims living here and abroad. It would be nice if Muslim leaders around the world and in the U.S. could be more vocal and condemn Islamic extremists, hate for other religions, and equal treatment for women, but the sad truth is they follow a book that encourages this hatred and rewards you for it.
Oceanminded, so you personally know what's going on across the country? I attended the convention for ISNA (look them up), they are a leading voice for North American muslims. One of the segments had a rabbi, cardinal and reverend. I grew up with mostly jewish friends. The ignorance from people like you is infuriating.
The ISNA is not a reality check on what will happen if you walk into Iran with a bible in your hand. You are living in a vacuum.
"One of the segments had a rabbi, cardinal and reverend. I grew up with mostly jewish friends. The ignorance from people like you is infuriating."
Are you saying that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance? I guess I am just ignorant fool for thinking otherwise....
I hear you. Look at the leaders in Pakistan who are being killed just for suggesting that the blasphemy laws there are insane. If the government doesn't kill you for being found guilty of saying that Mohammad was fake, your neighbors will kill you once you are acquitted. No Jew can walk into Iran and spread the news about their religion. Face the facts.
Religious extremism always scares the heck out of me. However, it sure seems to me that there's a lot more extremism on the part of Islam than all other religions combined. "A peaceful religion?" Please. i am so sick and tired of hearing that. Sorry lady. As it stands now, Islam is simply not compatible with what this country was founded on, because the Islamist agenda requires non-Moslem Americans to surrender their rights so you can move forward. Rather than assimilate into American society as so many millions have, Moslem Americans want to society to change for them. No dice.
The literacy rate of women in Islamic countries tells me all I need to know about Islam.
We have to pass tons of security checks before boarding a plane, so the entire world is still living in fear because of Muslims, no sympathy for them.
You can judge a community by how well they treat their gay populations. How do you think Iran is doing?
American Christians don't like to point out how Islamic countries treat their gay populations, lest they be painted with the same brush. Of course the Christian opposition is more nuanced. They simply keep your inalienable rights away from you while the Islamic countries will introduce you to capital punishment.
In Islam, everyone is a slave of god (Abd Alah) Salve of god, and that is the beginning of the religion, why the moderatos keep deleting this?
We have security checks because a group of human beings chose to perpetuate atrocities against other human beings using airplanes. We also have security checks in schools because of gang behavior unrelated to Muslims. We have to carefully guard our children from pedophiles (non-Muslim). Now we have to take care in movie theaters (also non-Muslim). Get a grip. Muslims are not the boogey-man. The boogey-man is US.
In my opinion Jude, they are the embodiment of evil. I would be happy to see a 10% tax on Muslims for whatever they do or wherever they go to offset security costs. They are the main source of problems worldwide.
Have you ever heard of a plane incident in the last few decades that did not involve Muslims? I frankly did not.
In every Friday prayer in the Middle East, the most common phrase is death to America and Israel (I lived in the middle east for 10 years), every single TV station broadcasts hate to the US, even when they are trying to help others, that is to be Muslim.
Why American Muslims did not go publicly and condemn that? No, you see them on Middle East TV stations supporting the hate.
"Islamic extremist" is not a made up description. They are called that for a reason. Now they have moved their "killing in the name of God" enterprise to East Africa. They seem to be a very wealthy and nomadic bunch.
If they don't support the Muslim cause, why they have to be fear? They are in fear because they know exactly their cause are the ruin of our country.
How many Catholics-Americans of Italian decent fought Italy in the World War 2. Eisenhower was of German decent. How many Italian Americans or German Americans turned their weapons on American soldiers in World War 2. As a matter of fact, How many Nissei turned their guns on other AMerican troops? The answer: zero. How man Muslims-Americans murdered their fellow soldiers? How man of them were born here? There is a problem of loyalty with Muslims that are not found in any other group. That fact is ignored or down right lied about.
We do not condemn all Americans for their patriotism DESPITE the fact that SOME Americans have lynched their darker skinned neighbors, shot up their neighborhoods in gang wars, taken out their fellow movie watchers with assault rifles, kidnapped and raped children, looted the vulnerable during disasters. We cannot condemn a religion because of the extreme actions of a few any more than we condemn a country for the extreme actions of a few. Your logic is terribly faulty.
I think that what you don't understand is that many Americans believe your religion to be antiquated with or without terrorists screaming Allahu Akbar just before they murder innocent civilians. Without the terrorists, your religion is as foreign and frightening as it is with the terrorists. Even in Syria, they yell God is great each time they shoot someone dead. That is a very foreign concept to invoke God when killing.
As much fear as you think you live in, i am certain it is less then a Christon or Jew in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt< Pakistan, and on and on. The people and the govts there have less then no tollerance for any other religion so forgive me for my lack of sympathy.
Where was your voice 11 years ago and where has it been since, louder then anyone elses preaching peace and tollerance for other religions and saying that thoose that hijacked your religion were wrong? Tell me!!!!
Why does your religion want to build a mosqe so near Ground Zero? Why did your religion build a mosque on top of the Jewish peoples holiest site?
Give respect you get respect.
The living environment of a Muslim person is a dangerious 1 in real life where we as United States Of American citizen we cannot fall to sleep with them and even more when we are seeing the kind of acting they do throughout the middle east region ladies & gentlemens
The fact that American Muslims live in fear 11 years later makes me sad and mad. But it doesn't surprise me that much since there are so many ignorant hateful racists in this country. Add to that freakin racist cheerleaders (looking at you foxnews, limbaugh and clones) and it's really not surprising. Stop the hate.
Maybe if they live in fear a little longer they'll stop living in the background and step out front and help take out the jihadists / extremists / mujaheddin / martyrs
I hope she is not defending the Palestinians. We watched them dancing in the streets just hours after the second building came crashing down.
STOP THE MUSLIM BASHING...STOP THE MUSLIM BASHING...
Do you right wing Christian-Brotherhood know the true definition of a Muslim? Let me see if I can enlighten you racist right wing domestic terrorist extremists... From my college days, this is what I learned one semester I took a course in Islam and Hunduism...
First of all, Muslims are not terrorists. A Muslim is an adherent of Islam, a monotheistic Abrahamic religion based on the Quran which Muslims consider the verbatim word of God as revealed to Prophet Muhammad and the teachings and practices of Muhammad. Muslim is an Arabic word meaning one who submits to God and Muhammad is the messenger of God.
The Quran describes many Prophets amd messengers as well as their respective followers as Muslim: Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jacobs, Moses and Jesus and his Apostles are all considered to be Muslims in the Quran. The Quran states that these men were Muslims because they submitted to God, preached his message and upheld his values, which including praying, charity, fasting and pilgrimage.
Now, do you want to know what a terrorist is called in the Muslim world? A terrorist in the Muslim/Islamic world is called a Radical Extremist (not Muslim). Radical Extremists promote and support varying acts of terrorism, for example religious terrorism for the purpose of achieving varying political or religious ends. These acts include suicide attacks, hijacking, kidnapping and recruiting of insurgents in the social media to carry out their mission of terror and propaganda.
Please learn the difference before you go on a Muslim/Islamic bashing!
Thank you!! At least someone here knows how to read before making statements!!
Dont really care what the quoran preaches. Just stay out of our way and dont blow up buildings. Is that too much to ask
Not every muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a muslim. When that changes you will be right
Every terrorist is a Muslim? Really? So Christians that blow up abortion clinics aren't terrorists? So Anders Breivik wasn't a terrorist? So Timothy McVeigh wasn't a terrorist? Top of the list of the FBI most wanted terrorists is Daniel Andreas San Diego. According to your statement I guess he must be a Muslim......or you are just an idiot.
What abput timothy mcvay??
What you learned in an academic environment is a far cry from the reality of the world today. Wake up and smell the fallafel.
What is happening with Muslims here in he US is just a small part of what is happening in any Muslim country with Christians. I am a Christian and was born in Uzbekistan. I know first-hand what means to live in Muslim Country and be a Christian. In 1980th all Muslims in Uzbekistan declared "Muslim Country is for Muslims – the rest go away". ANYWHERE I went I was asked "When are you Christians leave ?". Death threats were a norm to any Christian. So I was kicked out of my home and my Country. Stop crying – you are not asked to leave and its only a tiny part of what you do to "infidels" around the globe.
My Egyptian (Christian) neighbors here in Florida fled Egypt because of Muslim aggression. Just to add another example.
I see you have been properly brainwashed. Everything you say is based on the "books" you have read and not the reality of the situation. And let us put it this way in answer to your highly "tolerant diatribe" against people you disagree with: the 19 men who flew the planes in the WTC were not Irish Catholics nor were they Evangelical Christians. That is reality – no matter what your idiot professor taught you. What is sad is that you probably have about 50K of student loans to show for your substandard education.
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