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Elizabeth Warren: Is she or isn't she Native American?
Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren's claims of Native American ancestry have drawn fire.
September 25th, 2012
04:59 PM ET

Elizabeth Warren: Is she or isn't she Native American?

By Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN) - Writer Mark Trahant guessed the situation was a first: campaign jabs that centered on a candidate's claim of Native American roots.

He was referring to the Senate race in Massachusetts that pits Harvard University law professor Elizabeth Warren against Republican Sen. Scott Brown.

There are many issues of contention in this hotly contested race, but one of them has become Warren's claim to Native American ancestry. After Brown accused her of taking advantage of minority status, Warren fired back in an ad that came out Monday.

"As a kid, I never asked my mom for documentation when she talked about our Native American heritage," Warren says in the spot. "What kid would? But I knew my father's family didn't like that she was part Cherokee and part Delaware, so they had to elope.

"Let me be clear: I never asked for or never got any benefit because of my heritage," she continues, addressing the central concern that Brown has brought up on the campaign trail and at the candidates' first debate last week. "The people who hired me have all said they didn't even know about it."

It's a bit more complicated, said Trahant, a member of the Shoshone-Bannock Tribes.

"The usual standard is citizenship, being a member of a tribe. Elizabeth Warren does not meet that test," he said.

Who's Native American? It's complicated

"It's not right that she would use her self-recalled heritage for any academic advancement ... even if there are no academic standards that define who is legally a Native American (except the citizenship issue). On the other hand, when you see videos like this one, you cringe."

He was referring to a video that shows Brown staffers chanting war whoops and gesturing Tomahawk chops. It was posted Tuesday on YouTube by the liberal blog Blue Mass Group.

"I think Sen. Brown has some explaining to do about the nice guy, respectful tone that he sets in his office, and on his campaign," the blog said. "And maybe we can put this whole preposterous issue to bed once and for all."

Brown responded to CNN affiliate WCVB in Boston.

"It is certainly something that I don't condone," he said. "The real offense is that (Warren) said she was white and then checked the box saying she is Native American, and then she changed her profile in the law directory once she made her tenure."

The National Congress of American Indians said it was troublesome that Brown's staff members acted in such fashion. The rights organization urged Brown to take action.

It also blamed Warren was responsible for failing to speak up.

"She has every right to be proud of her family," the organization said. "However her campaign failed to educate a non-Native media and the public unfamiliar with federal tribal enrollment rules or about historic federal policies that make proving Native ancestry very difficult for some people."

Also at issue was Brown's reference during a televised debate to Warren's white skin color as proof that she was not Native American.

"Skin color or physical appearance has no bearing on one’s Native American heritage or status as an enrolled member of a federally recognized tribe," the national congress said. "As a result, numerous national television programs and websites have irresponsibly echoed Senator Brown’s statements by referring to someone’s skin color as an indicator for Native American identity. These claims are false and Senator Brown should correct the record and retract his statement immediately."

Elizabeth Warren vs. Scott Brown: Priciest race this year

The debate about Warren has gone on since May, when Warren confirmed that she had described herself in faculty directories as having Native American blood. She said she did it to meet others like her.

But her explanation didn't sit well in some corners.

A website called Cherokees Demand Truth From Elizabeth Warren says Americans ought to care deeply about such claims.

"America should care because they care when someone falsely claims to be a decorated military veteran. They care when someone falsely claims to be a recovering drug addict in a book passed off as the truth. And they care when someone falsely claims to be a survivor of the Jewish Holocaust. America cares about these things because America cares about integrity, honesty and fair treatment.

"Elizabeth Warren has not just stolen an ethnic identity that does not belong to her, but she has also personally benefited from it and harmed the integrity of the American ethos of advancement based on quality of work, not color of skin."

The New England Historic Genealogical Society provided initial research that shows several members of Warren's maternal family claiming Cherokee heritage. Warren's great-great-great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith, is said to be described as Cherokee in an 1894 marriage license application. The genealogical society gathered that information through a 2006 family newsletter and said the original application cannot be located.

Warren's critics were out in force Tuesday on Twitter, including the editor of the conservative Red Alerts Politics website.

Blogger Donny Furguson posted:

But Warren was not without her supporters.

Seroe Michaud commented on Native News Network's page:

"Good for you Elizabeth, I am 1/8 Blackfoot but am fair skinned and light haired, I am the only light one in the family. If like me your blood is part native on your mother's side and your heart is walking the red road, we will not be driven into the shadows. I hope that you win, you had my vote before I learned of your roots."

As Trahant said, it's complicated.

What makes someone "legitimately" Native American? And who gets to make the call? Our blog attempted to answer those questions when the Warren controversy erupted.

Julia Good Fox, professor of American Indian studies at Haskell Indian Nations University, said there's plenty of ignorance around Native American citizenship.

"It's all in past-tense, and we don’t get a sense of what an Indian today looks like," she said in May.

And that, she said, can be confusing.

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  1. Sakura2000

    Having recently come from law school I know they are desperate for diversity (in skin color not thought) in the faculty and students. My school went to great lengths recruiting diversity faculty and students. If you want to go to law school or teach at one, you'd be crazy not to identify yourself as something other than white. Heck, even if you are a WASP, claim you're not. Law schools are so PC sensative no one would dare ask why you look like you just stepped off the Mayflower. However, if you plan to run for political office, that might no be such a good idea.

    September 26, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Thank you!
      Those who are saying she got no benefit from "Checking the box" aren't getting it. That's precisely the
      position Harvard was in. Hiring diversity.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nativist

        This claim by Don is incorrect.

        Worse, he knows it is incorrect.

        He is lying to promote his agenda.

        Which is sad.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Freddo

    The answer is obvious – she isn't. She just claimed to be.

    Frankly, it's pathetic.

    September 26, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nativist

      Incorrect. "The New England Historic Genealogical Society provided initial research that shows several members of Warren's maternal family claiming Cherokee heritage. Warren's great-great-great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith, is said to be described as Cherokee in an 1894 marriage license application. The genealogical society gathered that information through a 2006 family newsletter and said the original application cannot be located."

      September 26, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don

        Give me twenty minutes and I'll produce a 2006 family newsletter that says my uncle Rico was in reality
        Spiderman. Does that make it so?

        September 26, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nativist

        Don, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that the newsletter was the only piece of evidence examined by the Genealogical Society.

        You are incorrect in this regard; or are purposefully ignoring other evidence.

        If you are doing so purposefully, that makes you a liar.
        If you are doing so by mistake, you are only ignorant.

        I hope you are ignorant.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Native Pride

    Seriously, pretty low move. It is a bit frustating being native and dealing with the ways society views indians and then you have someone like Warren saying, "I'm one of you"....not Liz, your not.

    September 26, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nativist

      Incorrect. Ms. Warren did not claim to be a Native American, nor has she claimed tribal affiliation. It is disingenuous of you to claim otherwise.
      You might consider deleting your fallacious comments.

      The New England Historic Genealogical Society provided initial research that shows several members of Warren's maternal family claiming Cherokee heritage. Warren's great-great-great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith, is said to be described as Cherokee in an 1894 marriage license application. The genealogical society gathered that information through a 2006 family newsletter and said the original application cannot be located.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
  4. FredAllenSwan

    What a biased topic-what difference does it make whether Elizabeth Warren is Native American or not ? ...it feeds into the superficiality of the entire subject...I am still waiting for the outrage for Scott Brown attacking Ms. Warren's ancestry...who is authorized to question the ancestry of another??? Shame on you Scott Brown and CNN

    September 26, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Do you have any idea what issue it is you're taling about?
      Nobody is attacking her ancestry you dimwit! It's the assertion (NOT just by Scott Brown) that she's
      lying about her ancestry.
      Read the article! Read it!

      September 26, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • n222s

      Freddie, I'm waiting for your outrage regarding Fauxcahantas' claim of heritage. If her claims were made for personal gain they are important. Brown has a right to question them. If Brown claimed to be 1/16th african heritage would it be wrong to question that claim? If falsely claiming a heritage isn't important then why is claiming a heritage important? In other words, if Obama's african heritage wasn't important to us and to him why would it be brought up by friends? The term "first African-American president" would never be mentioned by his friends because it wouldn't matter to them. He and his friends have mentioned in literature I've seen because he sees benefit to the distinction. Yes, I know we can see it for ourselves, but then if that is true why remind us of it in your campaign literature? And if there benefit to the claim shouldn't there be a price for falsely claiming a heritage if done on purpose (we don't know for sure)? You can't have it both ways.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
  5. n222s

    This discussion highlights the hypocrisy of our stated views about race. You realize that when you say she received no benefit from checking the Native American box on applications you are, in effect, admitting that some people DO receive some benefit from checking a race box. How do I come to that conclusion? If I said that I noted being left-handed on my application to law school and then claimed no benefit from such an acknowledgement you'd think I was silly for even bringing it up, much less noting it. Whether or not she did benefit or thought she would benefit, she might've benefited.

    If she thought she might benefit, that is important because it speaks to her character. if she'll lie to benefit herself, what else will she lie about to benefit herself or her allies?

    You know when politicians will stop lying and abusing us? When we hold them accountable and not look the other way because they have a D or an R next to their name. When they become too scared of our votes to even think about lying we'll have a better government. Till then we'll get too many Anthony Wieners (D) and Mark Foleys (R).

    September 26, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • zevie

      Thank you n222s Every once in a while there is an intelligent post on a cnn board.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
  6. labman57

    How much is enough to be allowed to acknowledge one's mixed heritage? 5%? 10%? 50% .... i.e., it's largely a philosophical and somewhat semantic argument.

    But it certainly is not worthy of being a focal point in the opposition campaign ... unless he has nothing else on which to hang his hat.

    September 26, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
  7. james

    I would respectfully submit that the voters of Massachusetts should not worry too much about her ethnicity, and worry a bit more about the policies and philosophy she brings to the race. Speaking as a completely ethnically mixed mongrel, I frankly do not see why ethnicity should have any bearing on anybody's capacity to do a job. Warren's experience and knowledge compared to her opponent are what matters, and should be the basis of voting decisions made in Massachusetts.

    September 26, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Your post was truly interesting to me James. It was well written, seemingly unbiased and intelligent.
      Which leads me to ask, sincerely, whether you appreciate the real issue here.
      The issue isn't one of ethnicity (said one mongrel to the other), but of the lengths to which Ms. Warren would go
      to get what she wants.
      She had never previously made any mention of Native American ancestry. Then she was applying at Harvard, which at that time was under some pressure for a lack of diversity among their faculty. At that point she "Became" a person with Native American roots.
      So again, the issue isn't her ancestry, it's her ethics.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Jay

    Moni Basu- are you a dalit as you claimed on your box?

    September 26, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
  9. BostonSteve

    As a democrat in Massachusetts, I will be voting for Scott Brown, He has done a great job in the past 2 years and Warren just carries to much baggage. No alleged license to practice law in MA, representing Travelers insurance company against asbestos workers, her high salary at Harvard when she claims college kids are getting shafted, flipping houses in Oklahoma from foreclosures of US military personnel, and even her involvement with her daughters non-profit agency which cost the MA tax payers over $100K to send out postage paid registration forms to welfare recipients. They recently ok'ed overtime pay for MA state welfare workers to handle all this.

    September 26, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • TELawrence

      A Republican Vote in the Senate is a Republican Vote in the Senate – we hope you have taken into account that you may help tip the balance of power in Washington TO Republicans by the vote. Just Political Reality...

      September 26, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • BostonSteve

        I understand that but it goes against my principles to vote for someone I feel is totally incompentant (Warren) for the job and will simply vote in their party favor every time. Call me crazy.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • doug

      The reality is that even a trace of principles disqulifies you from the Democrat party.

      Obverve Democrats from the President to his bots here.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • n222s

      Her high salary at Harvard offends me as well. Not because she deserves to be paid less than anyone else with her credentials and position but because any college professor supposedly "looking out for the middle class" shouldn't be making so much while students are loaded with unbelievable debt. If a baseball player complained about the high price of tickets (they don't) you'd laugh at them (which is why they don't). I DON'T begrudge her making $350k a year. I have a problem with someone "looking out for you" yet pay only lip service personally. If you're gonna care how about taking $50k of your salary and paying one or two poor kid's tuition at State U. Until you do something like that, stop telling me how much you care. Because you care...just not THAT much.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
  10. D

    Huh, a lot of quoted assertions in this article, but very little cited EVIDENCE one way or the other.

    September 26, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Don Jones

    II am one eighth native american on my mothers side all female, and i look more white than Eiizabeth Warren. If hers is on the male side who knows

    September 26, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  12. nimitta

    "The New England Historic Genealogical Society provided initial research that shows several members of Warren's maternal family claiming Cherokee heritage. Warren's great-great-great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith, is said to be described as Cherokee in an 1894 marriage license application. "

    Okey dokey, then, haters and Senator Brown, I guess she was right and you're wrong...

    September 26, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      I think you probably need to read the rest of what the NEHGS said instead of stopping after you read the part you liked, okay Sherlock?

      September 26, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nativist

        Oh Don, you should just admit that you were wrong. That way, you aren't a liar... just ignorant.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Scott

    We had a phony like her out here in Colorado. The University of Cocaine, Stonerville campus (University of Boulder, Boulder campus) had a "plastic" Indian by the name of Ward Churchill. Once this supposed "academic" gained infamy due to its Little Eichmann comment about 9/11 victims it also came to light that it is a plagiarist and is NOT an American Indian as it claimed it was so that it could get its job and Coke U. could meet its American Indian Quota.

    Scott

    September 26, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • bluesinohio

      Issues! Talk issues! This is crap! a distraction from important things, like economy, voting rights, abortion and so forth, maybe that is why you are steering conversations to racial questions.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
  14. christianbrother

    She grew up being aware that her father was "different" and that this was a bad thing.

    When she asked her family why they said it was because he was Native American.

    She then wanted to meet other people that had that unique family experience. Why is that wrong?

    September 26, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Ummm, because it's not true.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bob

        And you base your assertion on what, exactly?

        September 26, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
  15. C

    Brown should shut up and focus on real issues instead of this distracting, personal attack BS. He should also be embarrassed by the extremely poor conduct of his staffers.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      Exposing liars is a "distracting, personal attack "? I guess it is when you support the liar.

      Scott

      September 26, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  16. PK

    Let's see, I was born and raised in the good old US of A wait a minute, I'm not native, does that make me German, Irish, Scottish, Polish or what. Guess I can't be native because I was born in the good old US of A. Enough of this nonsense. If you're born here you have to be native! Ancestry is a whole different story.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nativist

      Sorry PK. As you are probably aware, "Native American" refers to someone who is a member of a Federally recognized Indian tribe. I mean, nice attempt with the semantics... but yeah.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Beam48

    Don't really care unless she plans on doing something to change the horrible conditions many live in on reservations...they are one group that never gets mentioned in these political campaigns. Its truly a disgrace to our country for how the Native American's are treated, even today. If she moves to make some positive changes with their situation, I wouldn't care if she was part Martian actually....

    September 26, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • C

      Agreed and well-put. Long, long overdue.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      You're right on the money about the the Native Americans have been treated.
      Of course there's something else that's true.
      Either she's lying about her ancestry, or she's never lifted a finger to help her ancesters or even bring focus to their plight.
      I wonder which of those statements is true.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
  18. KeninTexas

    Her Indian name is "Full- of- Crapum"

    September 26, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  19. ucsb1975

    Elizabeth has 100% of my support ... I hope MA sends her to send her to the Senate!

    September 26, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Good for you! You don't care if she's a liar or not. It's a pleasure to finally hear from someone who just admits it.
      Thank you!

      September 26, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  20. lomohai

    My mom and dad told me there was Santa Clause. I guess I should just believe them then.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Conky II

    What does "Let me be clear" really mean? I meant to be clear. Honest.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Conky II

    What does "Let me clear" really mean?

    September 26, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  23. NATHAN WIMBERLY

    What a dumb debate. Most Americans have Indian and African bloodlines. Brown looks very stupid here.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • willowspring

      It is a matter of integrity, Sir! Is she truthful, or is she Not? Did she "use" the possibility of Native American heritage to further herself academically because when the first story came out, she declared herself to be Native American in her application so that she "could meet people." For whatever reason, If it is not true, why enter that on an application? And now she says the people who hired her did not know about it? And that she changed that after she received tenure? She is either losing it or she has enlisted others to back up her "story."

      September 26, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
  24. sensible

    Who cares? Does it really make a difference? She is AMERICAN enough to meet the qualifications for office, beyond that her racial and ethnic backgrounds are irrelevant.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      You couldn't be more right. However that's not the point.
      The point is that she apparently lied about her heritage in order to get ahead at Harvard. That university was under some pressure at the time about the diversity of their faculty, and Ms. Warren took advantage of that.
      So the issue, in my opinion, is what else she'd lie about. I personally think the answer to that question is "Many things".

      September 26, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nativist

        Don, why are you lying? (Unless you have some empirical evidence to support your fallacious claim that Senator Warren... er, sorry, *Candidate* Warren, somehow used her interest in her genealogy to "get ahead", then you are lying.)

        So please stop being a liar, Don. Liars are gross.

        September 26, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • Walter Jenny

        Lied? She was born and raised in Oklahoma. It's not uncommon for people to have Native American ancestry – and if she's asked about it, do you want her to deny being of NA ancestry? Wouldn't that be lying? Just because you have your preconceived political notions, you think that qualifies you to call someone a liar???

        September 26, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mike,Albany

        Dan, I'm assuming you've never been on an academic interview. It's a grueling two-day process requiring a departmental seminar, an additional seminar about your academic plans, and many meetings with individual faculty members. What you say on paper has very little to do with the outcome. It's all in the impression you make while visiting the university and the department. Given this, it's almost certain that any claims she made to being Native American had any influence over this process one way or the other. She got the job because she was able to impress on her own merits.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • P.Y.

      Lies is also irrelevant ? Or only ethnic background ?

      September 26, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • willowspring

      Do you people not get it? Integrity trumps here. If she can and did lie, then what else will she lie about? What else will she be dishonest about? If she is working for the people as there public servant, wouldn't we want her to be of good character and not be suspect? Because if a person lies even once they are no longer trustworthy. How do you know if they will lie again and it could be something vitally important such as national security, for example, the 9/11 attacks in Benghazi and the killing of our Ambassador and others being blamed repeatedly on an amateurish and quite simply boorish video, when in Truth, it could very well have been Obama and Biden spiking the football at the DNC about Osama Bin Laden being killed. That was repeated 21 times at the convention! The attacks were screaming "We are all Bin Laden's!" Doesn't that tell you something!?

      September 26, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Sabilla

    I recall a conversation with my in-laws from Holland and I told them I have German ancestry. My Mother was full German and my Dad was a mix of a whole lot of things... They kept insisting that I was not German, I was American. I was so mad.. thinking how could they question my heritage? But they are right... I am American. The point is that Scott Brown is no expert on Warren's heritage and the fact that he kept calling her out by her skin color is racist. We are Americans and all this nitpicking about skin color is beneath us. Let's talk about the real issues!!

    September 26, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      Hey, I used to live near holland but now am south of Worcester. I tried to ask Warren about the facts but she removed my question. Maybe you could be kind enoguh to ask her as it will surely affect you as well: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Native

      You are correct in saying that you are american, which you are. I live on a reservation in america but I am native Wampanoag.

      The problem with Warren is that she benefitted from her minority status when she got a $395K a year job at Harvard.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • willowspring

      You've made a very valid point! We are all Americans. But! If you misrepresent yourself and especially if you do it for personal gain, it shows a lack of honesty and integrity, which are an attributes that are imperative for anyone in the employ of any and all public sector jobs. We need to "clean house" of all the scoundrels in our government. What better time than now, this election!

      September 26, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Larry

    I am 1/4th Sparrow Hawk Society, don't look it though, my Daddy, Uncle, and Grandmother did however.
    When I was younger it seemed like everyone wanted to have American Indian in them,
    I helped the women all I could!

    September 26, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Mike

    When I was a kid, my parents used to tell me all about my "Native American" ancestral heritage too. I went around thinking I was an Indian, telling everyone I was a Cherokee, and always checking the Native American box on every form that asked me to identify my race. Then, I had the privilege of going to a real Indian reservation in Rosebud, South Dakota. It became real clear, real quick, that I was about as Native American as the Queen of England. I suspect the same is true for Elizabeth Warren. She needs to stop claiming to be something that she has no real idea what it means to be.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Walter Jenny

      Elizabeth Warren has the same blood quantum as the Chief of the Cherokee Nation. That doesn't mean he looks like he lives on the Rosebud Reservation either.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  28. ari

    ""It is certainly something that I don't condone," he said. "The real offense is that (Warren) said she was white and then checked the box saying she is Native American"

    oh, the ignorance. white people can't be of native american ancestry now? my mother-in-law is cheyenne. she was born and raised on the reservation in montana. her husband is french. my wife is blue-eyed and red-haired–as white as can be. and she's also a native american. believe it or not, senator brown, native americans come in all colors. there are even african-americans of recent native descent. learn a little before running your mouth.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      I tried to talk to Warren about the facts but she wasn't interested in talking to an inquiring voter. Maybe you could try? She's coming across very deceptive. Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris R

        So you sent some email to Elizabeth Warren (more likely it was campaign inbox) and expected a personal reply? I can understand how and why you would want some words directly from her but my guess is that she is a little busy right now. I'd cut her some slack and take a look at her campaign website, talk to some volunteers and so forth.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Wild Texas Boy

    Who even cares, why is this even NEWS WORTHY????????? Also I can only ASSUME she is a Democrat acting minority and attempting to be something she is not, WOW sounds exactly like the Democratic Party with all those Pelosi, Reid crazies. The Democratic Party Bumper Sticker should read " We the Democratic Party are a Party of DENIAL (" DON'T EVEN NOTICE I AM LYING") I can't wait until November 6 when we take our country back!!!!!

    September 26, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • my2cents

      if you don't care, do not post assumptions regarding the same issue you allege not to care about. Take the country back ??? Where did it go ? ....and from whom? ...the foreign born, Muslim terrorist, socialist president ?

      September 26, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
  30. kgt

    If she's Native American, then I'll be a monkey's uncle.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • JohnM

      then you should understand this insult about you and your nephew: UH-OOOM-MA-EE-EE-POO-POO!

      September 26, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Showing your ignorance here Ian.
      Clearly given the percentages involved we're talking about a monkey nephew once removed, as opposed to a second monkey nephew being confused with a first monkey nephew.
      So please, if you have nothing of value to offer stop commenting.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Do you realize that she has as much or more indian blood in her than the CHEIF OF THE CHEROKEE NATION!

      September 26, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
  31. MRM

    My great-great grandmother was 100% Cherokee. I am proud of that, but I have NEVER once in my life claimed nor mentioned that small piece of heritage in order to get preferential treatment. Even if I was 100% I would not use it for preferential treatment. One must be judged on ability.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Then you can relate to Elizabeth for not asking for preferential treatment.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Thomas

    Warren's great-great-great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith, is said to be described as Cherokee in an 1894 marriage license application.

    Does anyone else see a problem with the above statement? Can anyone in the year 2012 have a great-great-great grandmother with an 1894 marriage license application? Do the math. That's 5 generations in only 118 years.... And Warren wasn't born yesterday!

    September 26, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Karthik

      Just out of curiosity, if the tax code allowed you to claim a tax deduction if you or your spouse were part-Native American, wouldn't you claim it?

      Assuming yes, there's no difference between what Elizabeth Warren did and the above scenario.

      No point blaming Romney for paying the "Carried Interest" tax rate. The "Carried Interest" loophole needs to be fixed, but there's no point blaming him for taking proper advantage of the existing provisions of the law.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • UseThatBrain

      Let's see, yes, let's do that math, Sir Thomas. 118 years / 5 generations = 1 generation approx every 23-1/2 years. Perfectly legit. But as you point at, the Senator is not young. However, what you fail to appreciate is that, just perhaps, g-g-g-grandmother wasn't on her first marriage in 1894. Perhaps it was her second, or third, or.... and perhaps she, too, wasn't no spring chicken – perhaps 60, 70, or even 80 years old. Brain power is there for a reason, Sir Thomas. Just sayin'.....

      September 26, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  33. BrettinMN

    My father's family hid their native american heritage as well, and for good reason. As late as 10 years ago, at a family dinner in her children, grandchilden and foreign guests, our mother said that if she had known he was a (slur for mixed-race), she never would have married him.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  34. SOONJUSTCOME

    WHO LET THE DOGS OUT? BROWN OR ROMONEY (aka) BIG MONEY.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Birdsong

    Since when does approximately 6% of a whole define a whole... unless a benefit can be obtained from it. Elizabeth Warren knows what shhe did; she played the system. Ivy league league schhools are particularly sensitive to native Americans. A few years ago my daughter got an unsolicited invite from Dartmouth for a 'native American' college visit weekend. They just assumed our last name "Birdsong" was native American. I can imagine their surprise when a nearly six foot tall blonde girl showed up. Sort of like when you look at elizabeth warren.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • dhines611

      The Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation is 3% Cherokee by blood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_John_Baker.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • ladyfon

        Then I'm going to claim i'm a foreign student on my college app since my great great great great ancestors were from Wales.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Birdsong

        As I said, unless a benefit came be obtained from it. In Oklahoma, it's headrights to oil.

        September 26, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • ronjayaz

        As I have sed elsewhere, I lived in New England and met lots and lots of New Englanders who always claimed partial "Indian" blood which I always red as saying, "I' go back to the Mayflower." But now when I think abt it, they may have been saying even more bizarrely, "I'm have Native American blood and therefore I'm more American than the Mayflower people!

        September 27, 2012 at 3:24 am | Report abuse |
  36. samsdad

    Way to 'pander', "she who speaks with forked tongue". Not even a good try to 'buffalo' Mass voters by this blond-haired, blue-eyed genetic wonder!!

    September 26, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      If you care about Mass middle class people, attempt to ask Warren this as I had my post remioved from her page for doing so: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mac

        At least your post doesn't dwell on the native american situation. I believe Warren when she says that she was always told she was part native american and that people don't usually question what they are told is there heritage. Not sure what the big deal is. From what I have read, every person that hired her wrote a statement saying they didn't use her heritage in consideration. I am currently planning on voting for Scott Brown. However, this is such a petty matter that if that is all he has on her, I might have to do some more research on Warren to see if I agree with her.

        As for the Obamacare tax increase, you have to be kidding me. The only people that will pay the TAX are ones that decide not to get insurance. Since 90% of people in the US already have insurance and of the ones that don't it is believed most will get insurance, Not sure it is such a big increase. I believe the Romney plan of lowering the rates by 20% then pretty much doing away with Schedule "A", which is what is expected by non-partisan economists, my taxes would go up. I don't currently know who I am voting for in the presidential election. However, I am still having a difficult time trying to figure out which one will benefit me more.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
  37. What a joke

    ""The usual standard is citizenship, being a member of a tribe. Elizabeth Warren does not meet that test," he said." What a moron. The usual standard is that one of your ancestors was native american. Who gives a crap, anyway? Our political process is such an embarrassing joke.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Gold Finger

    I'm Cherokee. I have my nation card. Am I dark skinned? No. Do I have all the native american health problems? Yes.

    I do know people that don't have their card are Cherokee as well. I know their family history well enough. Are they not to be given the right of who they are? Their family sufferes from the same hardships and loss of wealth that ever one decended from Cherokee lines because of what the US government did. So why is now a supposed problem that they claim what they are to get ahead?

    September 26, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      Because handouts aren't intuitive to a strong and functioning society. They promote class division and dependance. thats why!

      September 26, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Bob, Grafton MA

    Scott Brown sounds like another BIRTHER... he can't run on his voting record (favoring the rich), or a sound record of defending the Middle Class like Elizabeth, so he attacks her heritage? WEAK!

    September 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • acncnn2012

      Wake up Bob. Warren is not middle class. She and her husband make almost $1 million a year. She will throw you under the bus for her political gain any day of the week.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      Hey, I live in the next town over! If you care about the state of our middle class such as myself and presumably yourself as well, attempt to ask Warren this. I was removed from her page from trying to: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • StopLying

      Do you even know what his record is or are you just repeating the left-wing rhetoric? Seems to me that Scott Brown has been quite moderate.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • HWB

      Me thinks you speak with fork tongue. Me thinks you speak ill of Little Brown because he supports brother who have three teepees against tribe with only one teepee. Me thinks you are Warrenless, no?????

      September 26, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • willowspring

        WHAT are you Smoking!!?????

        September 26, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah Morrison

      Bob, if you look at Brown's voting record you will see he is a moderate.

      September 26, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  40. acncnn2012

    Scott Brown is and honest, decent, bipartisan man. Elisabeth Warren is a blatant liar and will do absolutely anything to benefit herself and career. A truly selfish person. She alone takes in over $300,000 teaching ONE class at Harvard and claims that she will help students with massive student loans? That is why they are so big in the first place. Greedy professors like her. Unbelievable that anyone would want this women to have any say in government, democrat or republican. Just listen to her talk and you will hear the crazy.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gold Finger

      It's Harvard, not po dunk Jr. College. You can't make that leap to ever college in the country. She gets paid like that because Harvard takes in the money like that and no one is the wiser to say no.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  41. scranton

    The most important thing is she is a liar so I guess she is qualified to be a Senator from Massachusetts.

    September 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Sadly that's close to the truth.
      All she has to do now is have 7 or 8 rum and cokes then drive a young girl off a bridge
      and her future in Mass politics is secured.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  42. AnneSD

    Face it, most Americans today have ancestors from many countries and groups. It is not unusual to explore and embrace different parts of our backgrounds at different times. We are Americans, but we also honor and celebrate the heritage of our ancestors when we self-identify even a tiny part of ourselves as Irish, Russian, Scottish, Italian, Mexican, etc. Before people whine about Elizabeth Warren's self-identification as having some Native American background, they should make sure they have never claimed any background other than generic American.

    As for the behavior of Scott Brown and his followers and their insults, unfortunately that kind of personal attack is sadly not unusual in political life and demonstrates that we still have a long way to go as long as we accept this childish behavior.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  43. altsehastiin

    This article largely ignores the findings of the New England Historical Geneological Society, which has stated that there is no proof to substantiate Warren's claims to american indian heritage. Their last word on the subject is as follows:

    "NEHGS has not expressed a position on whether Mrs. Warren has Native American ancestry, nor do we possess any primary sources to prove that she is. We have no proof that Elizabeth Warren’s great great great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”

    While Warren claims to not have benefited from her claim, it's clear that Harvard did. They listed Warren as an Indian, and they did so to deflect criticisms that their faculty wasn't sufficiently diverse. If Harvard saw Warren's claim to Indian ancestry as an asset, it stands to reason that they considered her claim when hiring her.

    It should be pointed out that Warren, like most democrats, is a proponent of affirmative action in hiring. Thus, Warren believes that employers or universities, should be allowed to racially discriminate in their hiring practices. That she would take the position that white people should be passed over for academic positions, while gaming the system by passing herself off as an Indian, is an act of disgraceful hypocrisy.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  44. judeamorris

    I can claim Irish, Scots, and German heritage even though I am a 10th generation American, my family on both sides having arrived in this country prior to the American Revolution. I can claim that heritage because that's where my family tree takes me. The Irish, the Scots, and the Germans, however, do not claim me as being a citizen of their countries. Blood quantum issues are only important in tribal memberships. Warren has not attempted to join any tribe. She has just said that her family heritage includes Native American blood which it very obviously does. The whole argument is ridiculous. All of us trace our ancestry back to somewhere and thus identify with groups other than those we live and work among.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  45. organically

    There are so many issues facing the country, yet this Indian thing is what we are talking about, which epitomizes the political ignorance of Americans, and that we thrive on personal negativity. How about the views of Brown and Warren on the economy, education, energy, etc..... THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    September 26, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • StopLying

      Integrity and honesty SHOULD matter.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Boooo

        I'm sure you are the beacon of integrity, right? Give me a break. The false morality standards of some people are so indignatious to me.

        September 26, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Mr. Maupin

    I recall a time when CNN used to be a news organization. Now it reads like one big pompous editorial section. Blogs are not news they are opinions. They're discussions that, however candid they may be at times, are trite. I don't care about the opinions of un-credentialed people I've never met. No matter if I agree or disagree. Which in fact makes me more worthy to report the news than CNN.

    While your credibility as a news organization decreases so does my reliance upon you for said "news". Instead of putting blogs (like this one) in my way on your main page, please leave them in the section where they belong. Or create a sister site for your more superficial readers where they can read such inanities and diatribe and avoid serious journalism altogether if it pleases them.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Emma in Baltimore

    Is it possible for this all to be settled with genetic testing?

    September 26, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
  48. paulm5545

    Warren is a typical politician. Some hyphenate their name to get a "minority" vote. Others claim a particular ethnicity or country in order to be admitted into a certain university, say, Harvard. Others claim a religion, a district where they supposedly live, move to a different state and claim they've always loved, say, New York. This should not surprise anyone. Only someone lacking in ethics would do something like this.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Skeptic

    She's definitely related to Native Americans as we all are. We are all children of Adam and Eve, aren't we?

    September 26, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pamela

      That's not the issue. She obviiously used her 1/16 status (give me a break) to gain an advantage in the hiring process. She completely lacks integrity. It's almost laughable that she is defending it and people are actually falling for it.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  50. organically

    No Americans admit that we are the biggest committers of genocide the world has ever seen. In the year 1492, there was an estimated 20 million natives in North America, which were virtually wiped out by 1900. We owe them a heck of a lot more than some casino rights.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Frankly while I certainly acknowledge what you're saying as truth, as I do with the atrocities of slavery, I personally don't owe anyone anything, nor do my kids.
      I work for everything I have and think everyone else might try doing the same.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Pamela

    How on earth do you make the leap that Scott Brown is a racist because he's calling Elizabeth Warren out on her lie and her playing the system? Of course she said she was Native American to further her career. Just an example, my white kid is applying to colleges. If you go onto parchment.com and input your gpa, etc., you get a prediction of how likely a particular college will accept you. He has a 4.5 gpa, strong SAT scores, etc. but only had a 20% of getting into one of the elite liberal arts schools such as Middlebury or Amherst. Change his ethnicity to Native American and it shoots up to 90%! Elizabeth Warren knew exactly what she was doing when she tried ot play the system, now her cover up is embarrassing.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      No, what's embarrassing is gullible people making claims like yours (that Warren gamed the system) without a shred of evidence.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sarah Morrison

        Of course she gamed the system. You really think she checked that box so she could "meet other like her"> How would they see her file to know what box she checked. More lies.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Boooo

      Obviously you are ignorant to the facts. First it was Harvard who listed her as a Native American professor to make themselves look good with a diversified faculty. She simply check one of a few boxes in the ethnicity category on her application. Harvard used HER. Secondly, Caucasian men with 4.5gpas and high SAT scores don't get passed over for minorities with 2.9 gpas and low SAT scores. But mediocre Caucasian men with 3.1gpas and lower SAT scores might get passed over for that same minority OR for a woman (as I see you have a feminine name). But they should blame themselves for merely achieving mediocrity.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  52. cWhatsNew

    A friend of mine in MI looks totally blond. But she has a great grandma who was a princess of the Ottawa tribe. She has refused to take any special grant from the government, but she has PROUDLY identified herself to be 1/8 of Native.

    Why should this be ATTACKED by Brown? I always felt Brown was a nice guy, agreeing with him or not. But now, it sucks!

    September 26, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gold Finger

      Princess? Why do people keep saying this? There was no royalty in tribal life. Your family did your part for the community. Like the bird clan. They took care of all the fowl that was domesticated or hunted along with anything that was collected from them. There was no princess. You could be a daughter of a leader, but that did not mean anything special.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  53. iceload9

    How does Elizabeth Warren's ancestry effect the people of MA? The answer is, it doesn't. Just another GOP smear campaign when they have nothing to offer on legitimate issue's.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      If you care about facts and not fiction of GOP vs dem, try asking Warren this as I tried to and was removed from her page. It's very telling of her character: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stu

      It shows a lack of character. The same can be said of most politicians . That's why it matters!

      September 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  54. DaJeepster

    Red skinned white man or white skinned red woman? If you think you are a single race, other than the human race, you are not looking very far back along your family tree.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Evenstar13

    I cant help but believe that all politicians are nothing more than liars. For those of which that are not the exception:
    "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish." Proverbs 19:9

    September 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  56. disgusted

    1) Just because you are not an official 'citizen' of an Indian tribe does not mean you have no Native American heritage.
    2) The 'box' did not ask if you were a registered citizen of a Native American tribe.
    3) There is clear evidence that she DOES have Native American heritage- she did not make this up, and did NOT LIE.
    4) Exactly what benefits did she receive by claiming this heritage? Presumably NONE.

    So, just how is this relevant to the political race?

    And what is the author implying by this: "But Warren was not without her supporters." Should we expect that no one would support her, based on this irrelevant, baseless accusation of impropriety?

    September 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      If you care about the facts and not the political parade, Please ask Warren the following question as I was censored from her page for trying to do so: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • disgusted

        yah, like anybody would ever get elected by promising to raise taxes (which is the only way we'll ever get out of debt).

        But really, "job creators"? With all the recent tax breaks they've had, you still think they'll use that money to create jobs?

        The problem is that no one has money to buy their products- the economy soars when the masses have money to spend, not when the rich are keeping more of their profits.

        September 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • heyyy

        Um, are you quating "job creators" because you don't beleive jobs can be created? I guess I would feel that way too if the highest profile claimant to creating jobs (Barack Obama) sure created them, just not fast enoguh to stave off the others we lost nvm the costs of actually "creating" them to begin with.

        Listen, I don't need her to tell me she's gonna raise taxes. I already know uits coming. She's putting 'average middle class americans" on tv and saying she's gonna LOWER the taxes. That's a lie because her two main supporters RAISED them because they CANNOT responsibly be lowered.

        Why am I being lied to? And why are you justifying it? Sorry if I misunderstand you.

        September 26, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • heyyy

        Also, I dont know if you realize or not, but Scott Brown is so moderate... Warren attempts to say 'he's with the big money guys' a stupid phrase from a mumbling idiot. I digress, however. The facts are Warren ahs received more mone y from corporations than Brown ever did and that's why she will not release her corporate client list.

        Are you from Mass or are you trying to equate this to the national race. It's so not. I'm for Barack Obama because Romney is a FOOL and Obama actualyl overall has my approval. However, Warren is a buffon a liar and a cheat! Scott Brown wins so far, you know... unless Warren actualyl wants to answer a respectfully phrased question to one of her voters

        September 26, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      What is the clear evidence? There's been alot written about this but I've yet to see anyone produce "Clear evidence",
      so please do?
      Unlike many people, if you show it to me I'll gladly apologize for thinking she's a liar. Gladly.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • WeCanSucceed

        The New England Historic Genealogical Society provided initial research that shows several members of Warren's maternal family claiming Cherokee heritage. Warren's great-great-great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith, is said to be described as Cherokee in an 1894 marriage license application.

        September 26, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don

        That's funny WeCanSucceed, because I just read this:
        "NEHGS has not expressed a position on whether Mrs. Warren has Native American ancestry, nor do we possess any primary sources to prove that she is. We have no proof that Elizabeth Warren’s great great great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”

        September 26, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  57. ingyandbert

    Why is this an issue? If EW had said she is of Irish ancestry because her mother's family came from Ireland, no one would be talking about it. What about the people who claim to be "Italian" when neither they nor their parents has ever set foot in Italy? It's no different. EWe said she never received any aid or benefit from being part NA, so why are some people acting as though she got some sort of free ride?

    The only thing this shows is how childish and desperate Brown and the Republicans are to discredit EW - even if they have to invent a so-called "controversy" to do so.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • paulm5545

      Because Irish and Italians do not qualify under government guidelines and criteria for admitting minorities to universities or consideration for hiring minorities on job applications.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  58. heyyy

    Please ask Warren the following question as I was censored from her page: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

    September 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  59. heyyy

    If you are from MA and part of the working middle class I kindly request you ask Warren the follwing as I tried to on her page but had my post censored: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

    September 26, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
  60. jorgesedano

    whatever she did she did.... guess she may have got caught in a lie?

    September 26, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  61. LouAz

    Brown's own name proves he is not WHITE.
    How's that for Repub/TP logic of American Heritage First Fathers meaning of the Const-itution ? Yee-Haw !

    September 26, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • jorgesedano

      racist or ignorant rant!

      September 26, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • LouAz

        Guess those statements were a little to complicated for you. Sorry if you didn't understand the satire.

        September 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      Kindly ask Warren the following question as I was censored from her page: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • LouAz

        Duh . . . what has your babbeling got to do with my satirical comment about Brown ?

        September 26, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • heyyy

        Didn't realize facts were babbling. I think I found out why are system doesn't work...

        September 26, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • heyyy

        Didn't realize facts were babbling. I think I found out why our system doesn't work...

        September 26, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  62. BostonSteve

    As a democrat in Massachusetts, I will be voting for Scott Brown, He has done a great job in the past 2 years and Warren just carries to much baggage.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      As an independant in MA, I agree. I was censored from Warrens apge for asking the following: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Jerome Horowitz

    She's very brave to stand up to the criticism. It's a feather in her hat of she is part Native American, but if she isn't, some body should Sioux. Her pale face will be red if she's lying. Maybe we should teepee her house on Halloween.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Nice job! I feel pretty strongly about this issue, but if we can't laugh about it sometimes we'll all go crazy.
      You were joking right?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jerome Horowitz

      Let's just say, if she's lying, she'll be eating Crow....

      September 26, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Don

    The thinking behind many of these comments tells a very sad story and demonstrates why we as a country are in such trouble today.
    One poster talks about how this claim is "Painting Native Americans in a bad light", but of course nobody is doing that. If she's Native American and there's a box on an application that asks the quesiton she should answer it the same as anyone else. The point here is that she lied about it to have an advantage both in terms of getting hired at Harvard and in terms of advancement while there. That's the only point.
    She talks about "Standing up for the Middle class" but in reality she represented both insurance and steel companies when they were suing to union employees to limit their workman's compensation benefits. How does that equate to "Standing up for the middle class"?
    She talks about how "Washington has it wrong" yet she is a part of Barack Obama's circle and there are many photo's of them together at functions. How can she support the President but say "Washington's got it wrong"?
    She talks about how our kids are buried in student loan debt and it needs to stop and she's right. My kids are in that position. But how can she say that while earning $340,000 a year for teaching one course, two day s per week at Harvard?
    The reality is that she's a hypocrite who will do or say anything to get elected. Are there plentyor Republicans who are exactly the same way? Absolutely.
    Now if you're a democrat and recognize these truths but support her anyway so be it, that's your right. But don't just paper over them and call anyone who talks about them racists or bigots. At least have the courage to back up your convictions.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • DJ

      Well Said.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      I tried to get down to the facts with Warren but had my post removed. If you care about the middle class, try to ask her what I tried to ask: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don

        I saw your other post. Good luck getting answers to those quesitons from anyone associated with Elezibeth Warren's campaign.
        And oh by the way you must be a bigot just for asking.

        September 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • heyyy

        Lol, surely I must be a bigot haha. Ya, seems I'll need quite a bit of luck. Thanks.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • LouAz

      Please show us the Harvard Personnel Manual (Chapter and Verse please) that gives preference to "Native Americans"
      in hiring and obtaining Advancement and/or Tenure.
      I Think you made that up. You really do not know what Harvard does with respect to hiring and advancement do you ?
      Typical BSer.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don

        You're correct, I don't know. But I know something about Harvard, and as a result I'm making an assumption. I admit that.
        Please tell us how you know the information isn't used for that purpose.

        September 26, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • LouAz

        Hey Don – Don't ask me. You're the one making stuff up.

        September 26, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don

        Everyone can hear the crickets.
        I did two things you couldn't deal with;
        1. I admitted I made an assumption instead of defending a point that I couldn't prove
        2. I asked for you back up what you said

        September 26, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Steve- Illinois

    Her mother and father had to elope because her mother was 1/16th Native American. LOL
    They should call Guiness, she may have the world record for a family bigot!

    September 26, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pamela

      Nicely put! It is shocking to read some of these posts trying to defend Warren. What ever happened to honesty and ethics? It has nothing to do with race – just character. What joke.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  66. DustyOnes

    Old Pocahontas is a communist.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Mike drake

    I know for a fact that she is related to Pocohantas.If you believe that you will believe anything CNNs bloggers print.that network is sinking like a stone. Good riddance.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Misfortune Teller

    She did benefit from it......she checked the box on a job app....
    Good Job CNN....the story is about 2 mos old.......in another 2 mos, are you going to do an expose on her practicing Law in Ma w/o passing the BAR here, or her actual involvement in the Travelers Insurance or the LTV suit which screwed workers?????

    Shes not a true MA democrat until she drives a car off a bridge and leaves someone for dead......Then she is a Shoe-in !!

    September 26, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Mark Davis

    Yet another example that shows that for Republicans, the issues are ALWAYS about a person's race – that's what it always boils down. Nothing new. Yawn.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark Davis

      *boils down to

      September 26, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • DJ

      And another example of Democrats trying to use Race to their advantage.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • heyyy

      If you care about the facts and not the fiction, try asking Warren the following as I tried to and was censored from her FB page: Hi Elizabeth, I kindly request information on how you will fulfil your current ad promise of lowering taxes on the middle class when Deval Patrick could not and actually had to raise taxes because there was no other choice. It is of my opinion we can not simply raise taxes on the upper class and shift it to the middle class because then those who create jobs will do what they have repeatedly already done to the detriment of Massachusetts: they will move jobs to NH, CT, and RI. Also, Barack Obama has also raised taxes on the middle class with the healthcare law recently confirmed as a TAX not penalty. Even Obama openly admits we must raise taxes as well as close loopholes which inevitably do equate to middle class Americans having to contribute somewhat more. Those are two of your primary proponents. I consider myself a voter up for grabs but honestly I struggle to understand how you can fulfil your promise correctly. Please explain?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rique O'Suavée

        "Heyyy," you've spammed this thread with this same post 8 times now. Each one contains your same reference to rich people using a variation of Republican semantics specialist Frank Luntz's term, "job creators."

        Of course you claim to be an independent voter, yet you repeat the Fox News lie about the Affordable Care Act being a "tax increase" on middle-income voters, even though A) it is imposed only on employed people who refuse to get health insurance (because universal coverage for all Americans can't work financially if all the healthiest people refuse to pay in), and B) it has already begun to measurably slow the previously unchecked rise of health insurance rates for middle-income taxpayers.

        The only reason people are so offended by Elizabeth Warren is that she's been the nation's most effective counterforce to Wall Street bankers the last three years, through her inteliigent and often courageous work that resulted in the creation of her brainchild, the new Consumer Finance Protection Bureau. Follow the money.

        September 26, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • heyyy

        Put down your tin hat weirdo. I'm an Obama supporter and don't read Fox News. Get a life. You think you're better because you like a differnet problem when a REAL interested person wants the facts and you're crapping on them because of your super paranoia that the GOP's coming to get ya. What a joke!

        September 26, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • bigdoglv

      No Mark, it is about lying.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Dan J

    Your culture is not only what is in your blood, but its what is in your heart. Elizabeth Warren simply doesn't understand this. She has ZERO involvement with the Native American community. She has contributed nothing, yet she exploits her (pretend?) heritage. She could be 50% Native American, but her inaction is what breaks her claim. That is what makes her a scoundrel.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Catypillrgirl

      There is no way she could be 50% Indian if we are talking about a Grandmother with ancestry married to a white man.
      Regardless, if she isn't card carrying, did not grow up in a home were Native American traditions or lifestyle was present and as an adult does not participate in her heritage or work to pass it on to her children, then she is not Indian and should not be claiming to be one. I'm Cherokee, 1/2, card carrying and I was raised an Indian and I do not appreciate it when people claim to be Indian but do not know anything about their people. Going to Pow Wows and eating Indian tacos doesn't make you Indian. Knowing your ancestors, your family history, your extended Family, being exposed to or speaking the language, practising customs within your family and voting and keeping up with tribal elections and laws
      is to be Indian.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  71. DavidS

    It cuts both ways. Several years back my wife and arrived at a local powwow fairly early. We respectfully kept out of the way as the workers and dancers prepared for the opening ceremonies. Eventually one of the workers approached us and invited us to eat with the workers and dancers, something that was not open to the public during this particularly event. Ya! Great fry bread and Indian Taco’s, etc…

    After a bit of talking we were flat out asked what tribes we were from. My wife and I tried to respectfully indicate we were not official members of any tribe and that our family history’s attempted to burrry most of the details about our far distant Native American ancestry. Basically, we knew both of us had Native American in our blood, but our families did not know from when and where and we have never claimed to be Native America.

    We were told very pointedly that we should find out and that it was basically insulting to them that we did not know.

    You can’t have it both ways. If my wife and I can get free Indian Taco’s for looking Native American to Native Americans (but looking white to everyone else) then why can’t Elizabeth Warren say, hey I have Native American ancestry, and benefit from it as well.

    I have Native American blood me. My wife has seen more than her fair share of shaman and even had them making concessions just get her to stay and talk with them. My youngest son was blessed by a shaman. Yet, I hate the notion of ever considering that I am Native American, because I am not an official member of a tribe, was not raised on the “res”, and the way people like Elizabeth Warren are treated when they use their Native American ancestry.

    Thank you for making non-Native Americans with a little too little Native American blood in them, and not being from a tribe like the Absentee Shawnee that at least knew enough to get on the roles at some point even if it was late feel like they are the redheaded child of a half Cherokee half Irish father who’s Irish mother hid his Cherokee’s father’s role numbers from. (Referencing a true story about my wife’s cousin that she was raised with as a sister. The sister is quarter Cherokee, redheaded, and tans in the sun, but no way in hell can she claim to be Native American and benefit from it.)

    September 26, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
  72. KNKLHEAD

    ... and this is all Brown has? Wow, that's sad. I am impressed by Warran. The "do nothing" GOP-ers are in for a heap of trouble in 40 days.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • bjeff68

      Yeah I can tell you are a huge fan. You don't even know how to spell her name.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      You mean Warren? People like you make it so easy...

      September 26, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Stephen Howard

    WHO CARES!? FOCUS ON THE POLICY DEBATE. THIS IS HOW MONEY CORRUPTS GOOD POLITICS.

    I am capable of writing without caps, but I was yelling.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  74. mdaneker

    Another Republican non-issue. This is what you do when you are LOOSING. You "swift boat" you go "birther" you attack anything and everything, you keep tossing feces at the wall until some sticks.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • mark

      she made the claim? right?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • DJ

      You mean like all you clowns are doing with Romneys tax returns?

      September 26, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • spellcheck

      LOOSING???

      Hah! Chalk one up for the U.S. educational system.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve- Illinois

      Looks like the only feces that stuck to the wall, was the b.s. Warren was throwing!

      September 26, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Anon

    Claiming to have had relatives who were Native American is NOT the same as claiming to BE a Native American. In any case, if I have a relative who is Native American then I can say I am mixed race. The same as if I had a relative who was African American. As long as we keep classifying people by race we will never have true racial equality. ALL people should be treated the same.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  76. mike

    Republicans lie and twist the truth for their own gain.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • DJ

      And Democrats don't? Lay off the Kool Aid

      September 26, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Way to sum up the issue big guy...

      September 26, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Peter Trainor

    I dont know if she is NAI or no but for sure George Lopez is a Native American Indian and the many Mex indians doing our lawns and cleaning dishes at restaurants.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Sitting Bull

    Bringing race into your race for office is a disgrace. She claims that she didnt get any benefit from her heritage. Good, I didnt either no one should get benefits because they are of a different race. If people got benefits for their heritage it would be called inequality. She is horrible.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Anon

      Many people in the US get benefits because of their race, SPECIFICALLY Native Americans. In Arizona Native Americans get preferential employment opportunities in state government and are prioritized for entrance into state universities.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • OliverW

        Yeah right, AZ gives preferential treatment to the native population, which is readily apparent as one drives through the thousands of barren and economically depressed square miles of the Navajo Nation from Tuba City to Four Corners. Stunning landscape for sure, but i don't think anyone would argue that the population there is doing wonderfully well. Perhaps the few perks you mention are meant to offset in some tiny and inconsequential way the horrible treatment that these people have endured at the hands of the US government for 150 years now?

        September 26, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  79. dillio1973

    Who cares !!! she is a VERY smart woman.... Anyone who has listened to her knows this... I am as white as a gost and am only one generation away from beeing on the roles of a native american indian tribe... The media spins this as if, you're white so you cant be native American... Bottom line is, I'd vote for here any day ...

    September 26, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • n222s

      it does matter. It speaks to whether she would fudge the truth to obtain power. Hey, maybe Brown would to and has done so before.

      But see here's why politicians get away with craap. You'll look the other way if you think they'll do what you want. You do realize that the only way we can make sure politicians are honest is to hold them fully accountable when they lie.

      Did she lie? I don't know. But stop pretending that the question of whether she is being truthful doesn't matter.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • dillio1973

        I agree with what you are saying.. The hard part is understanding what is and what is NOT native ammerican... Like I said, I have a native american background due to my grandmother on my fathers side.. By looking at me you could never tell... Does that mean I cant speak about my background ? Yes, they need to be held accountable, however I can not think of many who ARE held accountable.. All im saying is that she is more then qualified to fill that spot, and anyone who has heard her speak and knows where she came from knows she is a great woman...

        September 26, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  80. CanadianNativeAmerican

    Ok so my last post didn't get posted – don't know why. First, to anyone (and especially a few on here who have misrepresented Native Americans in Canada) reading this thread: There are 3 designated Native American groups in Canada: Native American/First Nations, Metis and Inuit. There are also other categories including Status and Non-Status Indians and Treaty Indians. Technically, the only Indians recognized by the Canadian Government (meaning registered through the govt) are Status Indians (and recently they added the Inuit but that's a whole other system of registration – l ong story). Second, and more importantly. CANADIAN INDIANS DO NOT GET EVERYTHING AT THE TAX PAYER'S EXPENSE – ANYONE WHO STATES THAT IS LYING. There are provisions for certain exceptions to paying tax – for example, if you live on a reserve, you do not pay property tax, however, the so-called *benefits* are few and far between. The downside is much more prolific unfortunately. As for the actual article on Ms. Warren, if she has a relative who was Native American, it's definitely a part of her *heritage*. The definition of heritage: something transmitted by or acquired from a predecssor (Myriam Webster online dictionary). So yeah, it's a part of her heritage. But really, what does that have to do with the campaign/platform issues?

    September 26, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Fillo

    I think this issue while it proves she's a liar is not that important. More importantly she sides with the crap on the side of a police car crowd. That she would claim parenthood over the gang of drug addicts defacing public property around the country should make anyone vote for Brown.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • WeCanSucceed

      She is not a liar. "The New England Historic Genealogical Society provided initial research that shows several members of Warren's maternal family claiming Cherokee heritage. Warren's great-great-great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith, is said to be described as Cherokee in an 1894 marriage license application."

      September 26, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  82. sidprejean

    "The real offense is that (Warren) said she was white and then checked the box saying she is Native American, and then she changed her profile in the law directory once she made her tenure."
    No, Senator. The real offense is that you did not formally discipline those who work directly for you in response to their overtly racist actions.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Michael Enfield

    Native American or not—she's all-american for all Americans! A badly needed alternative to the 1% who thrive at the expense of the 47%!

    September 26, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • RC

      Missing a few % points in that argument aren't you? 47%+1% still leaves 52% of us that still disagree with you.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Sebastian2

    Was she born in the United States? Then she's a native American. Who cares?
    Even the indigenous tribes crossed over into the Americas thousands of years ago from the Bering straits. The only true 'native' humans were from Africa, millions of years ago. Everyone since then has been an 'immigrant' as far as I'm concerned. You're born in the US? You're American.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • n222s

      Dead on Sebastian. We classify a whole group of people by the incorrect application of a word. Indigenous is a more apt description of the first inhabitants of North America.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  85. WeCanSucceed

    "The New England Historic Genealogical Society provided initial research that shows several members of Warren's maternal family claiming Cherokee heritage. Warren's great-great-great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith, is said to be described as Cherokee in an 1894 marriage license application.:

    So – she DOES HAVE native people blood line. Why is this still an issue ? Americans are proud to be a melting pot of many ethnicities – that is what makes us strong. My husband's family on his father's side has an ancestor marrying a native person (don't know the tribe). Many people have marriage history with native people. And that is something to be proud of.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dakota Girl

      Yes, but you forgot the rest of the line where it says no one can locate the supposed license. It's still anecdotal.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • WeCanSucceed

        The absence of a marriage license does not mean that the marriage did not occur nor does it mean that the relationship did not exist. Case in point – there are many couples today who live together and even have children together who are not legally married but may be considered "common law".

        September 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth seeker

      The report of that heritage was discovered in a make believe family newsletter. The Warrens newsletter is listed as the source. So perpetuating lies is a full family genetic defect.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • RC

        In my family news letter this year I am listing our family as former English royalty. Think I can get dibs on the crown jewel?

        September 26, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • WeCanSucceed

        It would seem that the "family newsletter" does or at least did exist because the New England Historical Genealogical Society referenced it. If the NEHGS got the story from an interview – then they would have indicated as much within their report. So it seems the family newsletter did, in fact, exist.

        September 26, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  86. n222s

    LOL – the cognitive dissonance of this society is funny. On the one hand, we are told that we are still a racist, unjust, unfair society. On the other we ask people to self identify on things like job apps or school admissions. If we are still a racist culture, why in the world would we ask anyone to identify themselves as a race other than that of the majority? Yes, I do understand that we want to ensure minority participation. However, a truly racist culture that discriminated would use such information against a person.

    In other words we have to identify members of races to ensure we don't care about race.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Oh man! I really hope you're joking.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Bruce

    I too was told of my original? native? Just American? heritage. The one picture of Gramma Minnie we have bears this out. Doing geniology research I saw some cenus records Showed us as White, others as Indian. The census taker probably decided. In any case Gramma Minnie was unable to get on the Dawes list. So officially we were always "white" legally.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  88. LacrosseMom

    What Scott Brown said and his staff did is down right ........racist. Disgusting!

    September 26, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  89. gabbo

    The genealogical society gathered that information through a 2006 family newsletter and said the original application cannot be located.

    This caveat says it all – Warren's claims are baseless, just like her intellect.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • cedar rapids

      cannot be located does not automatically mean was not filed.
      you make a major asusmption there.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Jeff

    If you can't get someone on the issues, you get personal. Mr. Walker's white gloved inspectors have found a speck of dirt on an otherwise squeaky clean candidate. It boils down to this: Mr. Walkers policies will benefit a few folk who don't need help and Ms. Warren's policies will benefit those that do, and prevent those that don't from engaging in ethically shady behavior.
    C'mon America, do we really need people who trash teachers and make fun of Native Americans behind closed doors in office? Scotty puts the Knob in nobility. Never did understand why so many folk side with the bully.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jersey Bill

      The utter lack of integrity IS an important issue. She is a complete fraud.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • WeCanSucceed

        yes – integrity IS important. Elizabeth has it and Scott Brown does not.

        September 26, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      Who is Mr. Walker and what are you talking about?
      Is stating that Elizabeth Warren talks about college educations being too expensive while earning $340,000
      per year teaching one class two days per week "Bashing teachers"?

      September 26, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  91. BurntFur

    Scott Brown is a jerk. I saw his supporters (all overweight white males with angry faces) holding signs for him while I drove into work today. It was raining. I thought "Good, let them get soaked." I'm real tired of this guy and his two-faced "I'm Mr. nice guy but turn your back for one second and I'll vote against your interests if it helps tow the party line" point of view.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      It's funny how yet another open minded liberal brings race into his post. It's also funny that it's hard line republicans
      who are unhappy that Scott Brown isn't who they thought he was.

      September 26, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
  92. Louise

    Tribes usually have a cut off point for what the consider to be Native American or a tribal member. Elizabeth Warren should prove that she is Native American buy taking a DNA test. This is the way people are currently being asked to prove they are native americans. You cannot just say that you recall a relative discussing their heritage and kind of minority status or benefits. If she is really Native American let her prove it via a blood test. If she passes the test than she can claim to be Native American, otherwise she should mark White/ Caucasian. Anyone with American Indian heritage should be irritated at white people trying to pass themselves off as Indians. Its been done before and should stop.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  93. stacy100

    my great grandmother was Cherokee, and I can prove it, but I have never called myself a Native American....that's low.

    September 26, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Jean Sartre

    Very, very, classy comment...

    September 26, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Onegood1

    Practicing law without a license is a crime in most states. But I guess in the nanny state of MA, its grounds for a nobel peace prize.

    September 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • cedar rapids

      wouldnt rules and regulations telling people how they and cant practise law make those the nanny states?
      but no matter, carry on with your whining.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • RC

        Cant drive a car in MA with out getting it inspected every year, but I guess I can be a lawyer with out anyone taking a second look? Who knew...

        September 26, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • +

      Why don't you go read the Massachucetts laws on Professional Conduct before you spout your bvllsh1t?
      The General Counsel of Massachusetts Boad of Bar Overseers has already ruled these claims groundless. That is the organziation responisible for enforcing the state Bar rules.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Bzarr

    To me this is like an honorable discharge. You use it when you can, do don't when you can't!

    September 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Don

      That's about as dumb as it gets. Whether Elizabeth Warren is Native American or not is of no consequence to me with respect to her qualifications for the U.S. Senate, but the fact that she said she was to get ahead is of great consequence to me and should be to everyone.
      As for Honorable Discharges, I have one and have never "Used" it. When asked if I have one I say yes. THE END.

      September 26, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • ChiefGunner

      If you are going to use a comparison to an honorable discharge then the more correct comparison would be "you either have one or you don't." In this case; she don't. (*Yes, I know that is poor English)

      September 26, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bzarr

        If you check the box you have a better chance of getting hired, if I didn't want to get a leg up on the other prospective applicants I wouldn't check the box. I see nothing wrong with checking the box, whether its a discharge or being part native american. Gee the soldiers and sailors act isn't fair to those that didn't serve so I shouldn't check the box? Thats crap, you do whetever it takes to win, survival of the fittest, you know capitilism.

        September 26, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  97. hmcidc

    I was just tested and found out I am 1/25th white. What benifits do I get???

    September 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
  98. WWRRD

    She's about as Native American as Al Sharpton is Irish!

    September 26, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  99. Michael W

    Many of you are simply racial idiots. Having a single ancestor who may have been on the Trail of Tears will not qualify you for tribal membership but it does not mean you should deny you heritage. In the late 19th century many "upstanding" Americans were pressured to deny their background so they could get good jobs because of the "fine, morally upright, leaders" in the US who were bigots. Today the bigots want you to prove you are one-fourth whatever to be allowed to say "I had an ancestor in the 1830s who cuckholded some white guy in the backwoods of the Dakotas?" What a bunch of hypocrits. So what?! Who cares if someone is part Deleware, Cherokee, Irish, German, Dutch, Norwegian, Mexican, Mandinka and whatever other nonsense that half of our population has. We're all mutts in this country and I for one am damned proud of it. I spent 20 years of my life sering in two wars to protect your rights to be bigots??!! Use your brains for something other than a device to keep your ears seperate, people.

    September 26, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  100. MaryM

    My sons father is 1/2 native American. My son has blond hair and blue eyes. So you tell me, Does my son have native American heritage?

    September 26, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
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