Editor’s note: In America follows the fight to win an essential voting bloc in Nevada, a battleground state with one of the fastest-growing Latino populations in the nation. Soledad O’Brien reports “Latino in America: Courting Their Vote” at 8 p.m. ET Sunday.
By Moni Basu, CNN
(CNN) – Marlene Monteolivo was a Democrat for many years, then a Republican. Now she's registered as a nonpartisan voter in Nevada who wants to support a candidate who will make the economy better.
The Colombia native, who works for a Las Vegas social services agency, says she's leaning toward GOP challenger Mitt Romney. She likes his business sensibilities.
Not surprisingly, Latinos nationwide put the economy as their top priority in a CNN/ORC International poll released Tuesday.
But there's a hiccup. And it's a big one called immigration.
It's the 200-pound anchor on the Republican message, say experts in Nevada politics.
Monteolivo doesn't like that Republicans blocked passage of the Dream Act, which would have created a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. She bristled at Romney's comment that 47% of Americans feel entitled to government aid. She took it to mean that Latinos, many of whom are not well off, are considered freeloaders.
Come November, Monteolivo says, her option might be to "vote for none of the above."
Romney and President Barack Obama are vying for the attention of 268,000 eligible Latino voters in Nevada, a critical bloc in a battleground state that is still reeling from the Great Recession.
Nevada leads the nation in the number of foreclosures and in the unemployment rate - 12.6%. The rate among Hispanics is even worse - a dismal 14.6%.
Add that to Latino disillusion with Obama for failing to pass comprehensive immigration reform, and Romney ought to be able to grab a chunk of Latino voters, says Carlo Maffatt, who works on Latino outreach for the Republican Party.
"With the economy as bad as it is, you would think lot of people would blame Obama and say, 'Let me give Mitt Romney a shot,' " Maffatt says.
But that's not the case.
In 2008, Nevada Latinos overwhelmingly voted for Obama, with whose help he handily defeated Arizona Sen. John McCain. Latinos were energized then by the promise of change in America's immigration policies.
Four years later, the Dream Act - designed to create a path to citizenship for some young undocumented immigrants - is all but dead on Capitol Hill.
Obama did sign an executive order that defers deportation for undocumented immigrants who were brought to America as children. But that does not change current immigration law.
"You hear Latino voices saying. 'Obama has not delivered,' " says David Damore, a University of Las Vegas political scientist. But that disappointment is more likely to translate into a "let's-just-stay-at-home" attitude - as is the case with Monteolivo - instead of voting GOP, even though Romney has tried to hit home with his message in Nevada.
"I have walked in Nevada neighborhoods blighted by abandoned homes, where people wonder why Barack Obama failed them," Romney said in a speech in Las Vegas earlier this year. "Well, Mr. President, Nevada has had enough of your kind of help."
Tough times might be the reason why Nevada has gone from a strong Obama state in 2008 to a real battleground this time around. But it may not be enough to sway Latinos. That's because many of them - such as Monteolivo - cannot get over a widely held perception that the Republican Party's immigration policy boils down to a debate on how high to build the fence along the border, Damore says.
The thinking is, he says, is that maybe we should give Romney a chance to fatten our pocketbooks but we can't take the risk with immigration.
That perception has not been eased any by Republican candidates in the state. In the nasty 2010 Senate race, Republican Sharron Angle claimed her opponent, veteran Sen. Harry Reid, was too soft on illegal immigration.
Latino groups expressed outrage over Angle's ads that they said were racist. They featured ominous images of a border crossing and hostile-looking Latino men; one carried an assault rifle.
She also drew ire for proclaiming to Hispanic school children: "Some of you look a little more Asian to me."
Reid defied anti-incumbent fervor to win a fifth term in office. Post-election pundits agreed that Hispanics, 15% of Nevada's electorate, had stood unified behind Reid to save him.
Since then, Nevada's Latino voters have grown in numbers. They have, after all, accounted for nearly half of the overall population growth in the state over the past 10 years. Their voting clout is sure to keep rising, and they form a voting bloc that will keep gaining national significance.
That clout is even heavier in an extremely close election year in which the Silver State's six electoral votes are oh so precious. Obama can no longer count on the overwhelming support of Latinos, and Romney has yet to figure out a way to connect, says Eric Herzik of the University of Nevada at Reno.
"The Latino vote may not be wild about Obama, but Romney has not shown them what he can do," says Herzik, chairman of his university's political science department. Romney's argument, says Herzik, is that everyone will be better off with lower taxes and less government regulation.
"That's a very nonspecific message," Herzik says for Nevadans who are about to lose their home, lose everything. "Many in Nevada are saying. 'I'm not having a problem paying my taxes. I'm having a problem paying my mortgage.' "
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If the Republicans were able to effectively lay out their economic message, they might have a chance in getting Latinos to overlook what they see as problems in GOP immigration policy, Herzik says.
Omar Lopez voted for Obama in 2008 but this year, he is still undecided.
Lopez's Las Vegas residential real estate business suffered a great deal in one of the hardest-hit housing markets in the country. He downsized his staff from 12 to 3. He says the president has a competitor worth listening to.
In Romney, Lopez sees a successful businessman who can perhaps solve the nation's woes. The problem is he hasn't heard specifics.
Last week, he went to hear Romney's son Craig speak at the Greater Las Vegas Association of Realtors in hopes of hearing a solid economic recovery plan. Part of that, Lopez says, has to be an emphasis on education.
"We are going to crash as a nation if we stop taking away money from education and the economy will be even worse than what it is," Lopez says. "Our kids are not going to college."
Nevada has the highest dropout rate among the 50 states. Only about 60% of Hispanic students in Nevada graduate from high school, according to the state of Nevada.
"I haven't heard a specific plan for education," Lopez says. "How are we going to raise our federal budget to support school programs? How are we going to motivate our teachers?"
Education and the economy are huge issues for Lopez, who is raising a 5-year-old son. But immigration policy is right up there.
He achieved the American dream after arriving from Colombia when he was only 21 and understands why immigration is a roadblock between Latinos and the GOP.
Maffatt, the GOP outreach worker, blames it partly on what he calls a lackluster effort by the Republicans. Hands down, he admits, the Democrats have done a better job connecting with Latinos.
He pointed to Obama's Las Vegas campaign appearance Sunday at the predominantly Hispanic Desert Pines High School. Sharing the stage was Mexican band Mana. Obama might as well have had U2 by his side. Obama's sixth appearance in Nevada this year hit the jackpot with Latino voters, who showed up in droves if not to see him, then the hottest rock stars south of the border.
Clever move, says Maffatt, who thinks the Mana concert will help re-energize Democratic Latino voters who might have become disappointed with the president's failure to pass immigration reform.
"Is it the right way to present a candidate? That's debatable," Maffatt says. "But the point is they are doing something. I don't see any (GOP) resources going into Nevada."
Lopez, the real-estate businessman, did not go to hear Mana. He gave his four tickets away to one of his clients.
She called him up the next day crying with excitement. "Oh, God," she told him. "I got to see the president."
It's those small things, Lopez says, that might help Obama with Latinos in Nevada. As for Lopez? He'll be waiting eagerly in front of his television set Wednesday night as Obama and Romney engage in their first debate.
CNN iReport: What would you ask the candidates in the first debate?
Lopez be tuning in for promises on education, the economy - and immigration.
Sadly, Obama's calculation is correct. Most Hispanic families have at least one or two illegals somewhere in the mix, and they DON'T want them deported (human nature right?). Therefore, Obama will win the Hispanic vote in a landslide. As a result, he will win the general election. Now considering that Hispanics breed faster than anyone else, who here thinks this is NOT a permanent trend? It is, trust me. America as it was is now finished, done, over with, forever.
"Now considering that Hispanics breed faster than anyone else"
Just SLIGHTLY faster: Hispanics have 1 more baby than whites. The difference is so small that it will be after the 2nd half of the century that my descendants and your will become EQUALITIES.
"Most Hispanic families have at least one or two illegals somewhere in the mix"
No, we do not. Cubans and Puerto Ricans for instance have ZERO illegal relatives.
Point taken....let me apply that to Hispanics with Mexican origin....still, it tilts the balance in a big way and let's face it, Hispanics have been voting Democrat for a while anyway.
What part of Liarville are you from. Some people are like dogs-they try to shake off their fleas right away.
It's not just about breeding....it about the steady influx of Hispanics.....the Hispanic segment of the population is the fastest growing by a wide margin....nobody disputes that.
You need to educate yourself more the GOP policies will benefit the Rich plain and simple....Obama policies will benefit the middle class once the congressional and senator GOP decides to approve a lot of the laws that are awaiting congressional approval to benefit the middle class, veterans, and provide more jobs....get over your real bias against Obama and pay attention!!
On behalf of the Latino Community I would like to express my shame and embarrassment for the low support to Obama (only 70%! Jews support Democrats by 75%) and the high support to Romney (26%! That is WAAAAY too high).
I solemnly swear we will do better!
Ramon, very racist voting as a culture/race. How about all the white people starting yelping to vote for only the white person. You wouldn't like that would you as it would be racist. That is exactly what you are doing. BTW, my dad is Mexican, but I am voting for the candidate….I LIKE…. not the ones hispanics vote for.
Well then, you can't be pointing the finger at others for racism when YOU and YOU're PEOPLE have so much racism in your culture that its high-hypocrisy for doing just that, pointing out others racism.
I laugh at you.
Its culture like yours that keeps our country divided. Just think about it.
Obama will win, with this flip flop today with Romney, he lost many Americans votes.
Oh please....like any pro-border security conservative will suddenly abandon Romney for Obama... The truth is Romney has realized that Hispanic are about to hand him a sure lose, and he is desperate. Funny that he didn't see this one coming. I predicted this would be the downfall of the GOP candidate right from the beginning. Hispanics are a very large voting block, and don't want their illegal relatives deported.
Lost my vote, and i was a diehard. this is a very important issue, and rolling over just shows me who he really is.
I am waiting to hear about a dream law helping our citizens achieve the American in this tough economy, you know, the ones that worked all there lives, paid taxes and social security! We don't need to be helping those who have contributed nothing into this country unless they want to pay higher taxes and S.S. to make up what it will cost the rest of us. You want to bring your family into this country you should do what the law requires.
I live in Texas. Most of my neigbors are democrats. We get along okay. As a matter of fact, seems like just about anywhere else I have been in the U.S. People talk a little differently but so do I, I have a slight twang in my native english. I think the anger directed here is kind of disappointing. Many hispanics vote democrat because their mother did or their father did. Kind of the same reason I mostly vote republican.... I was playing golf with a bunch of guys and a fellow comes up running for judge and introduces himself as the demo canidate....lol...the assumption down is just about everybody is...but to the point. If we are divided on philosophical lines about how to govern I think that is okay. I don't like how we are dividing our loyalities though. Be American first. Think about what is good for the country ... and vote that way. It should not be based solely on the condition of Aunt Cecilia from Panama or Uncle Yesper from Scandinavia. I am equally sympathetic to both their plights and have friends in both places. However, do what is right for the country and vote on a bigger than your small particular problem at the time.
"We will vote for whoever allows the greatest degree of amnesty for our illegal alien relatives".....Signed: Latinos
Good luck with that. Vote to provide amnesty for your illegal brethren but don't cry when they underbid you and take your jobs. And what of those people trying to enter this country lawfully? What do you have to say to them?
I'm with you...I'm just stating the reality of the situation for most Hispanics....they don't want their illegal relatives deported and they will overwhelmingly support Obama. We allowed this to happen by not securing our borders, and I don't see any way to every change this now, since Hispanics reproduce almost twice as fast as Whites. There is no turning back.
Racist Rhetoric. The funny thing is you wear your racism proudly. No shame in your game.
"A majority of Latinos said the economy was a more important issue than immigration"
It's not immigration, It's the economy, "Moni".
The illegal immigrants that would benefit from relaxed immigration legislation can't vote. Duh!
But all of their family members can. You do realize that almost all Hispanic families have at least a couple of illegals in the family somewhere right? You do realize that human nature is to NOT want your family members deported right? This is why Obama will get AT LEAST 70% of the Latino vote. Is this a very sad thing? Yes, but it's true.
It's not immigration, "moni".
If the GOP had fully backed the original version of the Dream Act, a bill they proposed but then forced the sponsor to cast the deciding vote against, the Democrats would be a party in serious trouble. It's as if the GOP decided to shoot themselves in the foot on this issue.
What issue have the Republicans NOT shot themselves in the foot on?
Slavery...and uhmm..well that is all I have.
It's understandable that many don't support amnesty for every illegal alien 30 and under who went to high school here. If people actually read all the details, MANY wouldn't support it. Problem is, in a close election having Hispanics support Obama means Romney loses.
Romney ....... No honesty no integrity
The guy is more of a genuinely honest, good person than Obama will ever be in his wildest dreams. Problem is, he has not been as supportive of illegal immigration, and he will lose for it.
The economy? Didn't Republicans loudly boast that they would ruin our economy for 4 years to get Obama out? They have followed up by sitting on a few trillions in cash with no hiring, no investment, more money and jobs moved overseas, party of 'NO' and obstruction in congress, etc. Now they blame Obama for a poor economy. Wonder why they don't want to take the credit for their success in ruining this economy these 4 years now that it's time to vote?
Show me a quote and a link where that was ever said. What was said is that they would work to make him a one term president, and that they hoped he failed (at pushing his socialist agenda on America).
Mr. Stone, uh, where do you want me to begin? James Dobson? Michelle Bachmann? Donald Trump? Rush Limbaugh? The list goes on.
Romney ......... Give to the Rich take from the poor
More like....stop taking from those who work to support those who don't want to.
Owebama, give to the poor and keep giving so they don't have to work. And you get to pay for it.
Romney and Ryan .......... Laurel and Hardy of the 2012 Presidential campaign
Just stop giving them and their anchor kids benefits. Penalize employers who hire illegals and then maybe they will self deport and then they will have no incentive to come into the US. Also make it a law that if you come here illegal you can never get to be a US citizen or legal resident.
How convenient for you that both of those proposals are already laws!
if you have such a problem with illegals then why are you in the immigration section of the news
Our thoughts and prayers are with the agents' families at this difficult time," said Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz.. "Violence along Arizona's border cannot be tolerated by the federal government any longer. The federal government must commit the necessary resources to secure the border, because that's simply not happening right now." Excluding Tuesday's death, four Border Patrol Agents have died on duty since the start of 2011.
Republicans need to say what they believe. If you want to come to this country and make it a better place, start a business and contribute to America's Greatness, let me get the door for you.
The problem is being ignored! Caucasian voters demand mass deportation of illegal aliens and I will vote for whomever assures me that the illegals will be deported. I don't care about Obama, I don't care about Romney, I care about my country and my right to be free of an illegal alien invasion that has gone on for far too long. Idiot George failed to address the issue, almost inviting my country to be invaded, and Obama claims "compassion" by screwing the American Citizen. Ge the illegals off my land, off my roads, out of my schools, and out of my pocket and DO IT NOW!
you said it an its all true,we all feel the sdame way there just a small few who dont an we know who they are the ones that this is all about ,no other country would allow this why are we im sick of being the worlds dumping grounds for every one elas trash keep your owe trash in your boarders an countrys an its not stupid to the real americas who know whats going on.i know we need to to start kickin the rag heads out to there all a waste of humanity
Sorry, 20 million plus people are never going to be sent away in some mass-deportation. Dream on. The ONLY thing that can be hoped for is to seal the borders now.
Are you kidding me? Under the Obama Administration there have been a record number of deportations! Granted, he doesn't advocate for that on a regular basis, but that's what's happening.
“In America follows the fight to win an essential voting bloc in Nevada, a battleground state with one of the fastest-growing Latino populations in the nation.”
“Nevada leads the nation in the number of foreclosures and in the unemployment rate – 12.6%. The rate among Hispanics is even worse – a dismal 14.6%.”
Well those two statements say it all. In come the illegals and their goes the economy in that state. Coincidence? I don’t belief so.
Monteolivo's option to "vote for none of the above" would ba a complete waste. She might as well be another dead beat voter and staty home. Monteolivo, a Colombia native, who works for a Las Vegas social services agency, should be grateful that she has a job that doesn't require picking fruit in the hot sun.
That might happen if she votes for "none of the above".
I would suggest that voting for Obama would be her best choice. Republicans blocked passage of the Dream Act, not Obama.
Ωbama. The great lie ushers in the end time.
I'm disappointed that you have been bought lock stock and barrel by Obama. You are no longer a valid source of news.
Etch a sketch is flipping again. What happened to self deporting? You cannot believe a word this man says. He has no guiding principles so he speaks out of both sides of this mouth, not 47% of the time but 100%. Latinos beware of this man.
people always cross the border for more money or better opportunities, it's just human nature. unless the border between US and mexico is militarized like north and south korea, illegal aliens won't go away. the problem is waste of taxpayers money in border patrols etc. if there are no jobs why bother crossing the border.
deportation cost too much money and giving them an airplane ticket etc. in some contries there is no court hearings,,they just throw the illegal aliens in a train and drop them off.
Put down your kool aid. Obama said he would cut our federal deficit in half during his first four years as president, instead he added another 4 trillion. FLIP FLOP Obama.
Keep in mind Obama has to deal with the most obsructionist congress in US history. Thank god those bums are going to be voted out.
It's not immigration, it's the welfare and freebies. If we didnt go broke supporting many people who are criminal for even being here, we wouldnt be in this mess.
What freebies do you speak of? Last I checked you needed to be a citizen to receive Social Security, Food Stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, and the list goes on. You'll notice that on all those forms you need to put down your Social Security number; something you don't have unless your a citizen, even less an illegal immigrant.
Marele (the lady in the news) don't stay home, go and vote for Obama he will send you burritos every day so that you can feed your 12 kids who were in welfare.
If the govt can select which laws to enforce and which ones not to enforce – do I have the right to select which laws to follow and which ones not to follow?
This is not about immigration. Its about illegal immigration. We need to deport all illegal immigrants. That is the law. Amnesty will just cause a run on the border as more illegals cross to take advantage of US taxpayers.
If then govt can select which laws to enforce and which ones not to enforce – do I have the right to select which laws to follow and which ones not to follow?
Obama calculated that if he pandered to those supporting illegal aliens by creating an temporary and illegal amnest, he would have enough votes to win, and he is probably correct.
Mexicans are the MAJORITY Latino and they think they can represent ALL Latino's and have convinced many to follow THEIR interests in the Latino community. After Mexican political activists in the USA gain what they want for themselves, they discriminate and kick all other Latino's that are NOT mexican, to the curb. Its happened before, it will continue.
So, please white people Americans, "Latino" is not synonymous with Mexican. Within all Latin cultures there are what I call "Cultural Dialects", we don't all share the same values, mentalities or anger towards the USA.
We don't share the same goals OR DREAMS as to why we come to the USA.
Get that straight.
Mexican goal is to seize back the lands that Mexico lost in wars with the US. And they are going to achieve that without firing a single shot.
Mexicans makeup most of the illegal aliens because illegal immigrants from brazil would have to cross 5 borders armed and barbwired and orders to shoot to kill in their militarized borders and jail and prison for people crossing borders with no papers. As for airplanes, it's harder as strict security. and ships have GPS and satellites. whereas mexican border is so huge and trucks in the border traffic from mexico to US trade it's impossible to block illegal aliens from crossing the border. the borders in europe are even more open same with Canada, the longest undefended border.
If govt selects which laws to enforce and which ones not to enforce - do I have right to select which laws to follow and which ones not to follow?
hey latino's, thanks for killing another border patrol agent.
As a Latino and a Republican, it's about the economy and liberalism, stupid!
Yes, we exist.
I'm a Non-Mexican Latino, Mexicans are the majority Latino and only focus on immigration rights FOR THEMSELVES, so I have to point that out.
But Ive seen a deterioration in our society by that majority Latino and my Parents and other non-Mex Latino's I've encountered come to the USA to contribute, better themselves AND THIS COUNTRY. We respect the USA and love it.
We don't throw our original flags in the faces of others at Olympics when representing the USA. We keep our neighborhoods clean. We raise our kids right and we have NO gang sub-cultures to our names. Thats a Mexican cultural thing.
So, yes. If Obama has made the worst stay out of the USA, the ones that bring crime culture, thuggery, the CHUSMA, the uneducated ignorant unhealthy that are becoming an economic and social burden in our country, THE USA, then great.
And I'll vote for him if he's fixed the economy, can fix it. Part of me though, feels Romney may be able to fix the economy. I don't vote with a Mexican mind, what they think is voting on what will benefit them, no one else and that INCLUDES THE USA.
Republicans – bragged they'd ruin our economy for 4 years to get Obama out. Followed up by sitting on a few trillions in cash with no hiring, no investment, more money and jobs moved overseas, party of 'NO' and obstruction in congress, etc. Now they blame Obama for a poor economy. Wonder why they don't want to take the credit for their success in ruining this economy these 4 years now that it's time to vote?
Your prejudice is showing! You are lumping all people from Mexico and US citizens of Mexican descent in one ugly bunch and that is called prejudice. Mexican Americans attract the most attention because there are more of us than any other Latino group and it isn't even close. I am not a gang-banger, I am not on welfare, I am not illegal, and I am not a criminal. My family has been here for 4 generations and I have a bunch of relatives who have served proudly in the armed services, including my father who fought in World War 2 so that people like you wouldn't have to be speaking German! Your ignorance and prejudice are appalling.
Hypocrite. You know your people... have racist values that target African Americans and other NON-Mexican Latino's here in the USA and worse in your own Mehicoh Lindoh where you violate other Latino's human rights, deport them in tremendous numbers and abuse them.
Focus on how you can change that in your people before you point the prejudice finger at me or any other Latino that points out your hypocrisy. Good luck though, Mexicans are a difficult people to change.
Hey Latinos: what is it you don't understand about someone who saved the Olympics from financial disaster,versus a community organizer who has fumbled his way through the last 4 years?
Lations care only about their tios, tias and primos in mexico.
Mexicans do, not Latino's in general. We care about families just as much, but we also RESPECT and want the best for the USA. I am a proud double-Ameican – North and South!
Obama has done NOTHING for minorities. For them to follow him is political suicide.
I think mexicans have unfair advantage in 'illegal immigration'. We should give equal opportunity to all nationalities - indians, chinese, russians etc in the matter of 'illegal immigration' and media should immediately promote this idea to stop this discrimination against nationalities other than mexicans.
Why only illegal Mexicans - we should allow all mexicans living in mexico and indians in india, chinese in china and russians to vote ONLINE in our election. In this age of the internet it is discrimination to leave anyone out. The rest of the world should demand the same rights as the Mexicans in election of the president of the only superpower of the world. Everyone should have a fair say in the future of the world. What do you say?
Tony, abuse is rampant in the Democratic counting process. I also don't trust the internet as a place for people to cast a vote.
How can somebody be in the country and be illegal alien. unless you have tough penalties for people hiring illegal immigrants, the illegal immigrant issue is waste of police resources. people will always want to make more money crossing the border if there are jobs, free healthcare, school and no chance of being escorted back to the border. the problem is employers who hire illegal immigrants to make more profit. farmers and some companies want to hire illegal aliens because it means more profit .
Simple answer - nexus of big business and politicians.
It is illegal immigration and we are the stupid ones.
word is mexican and illegal aliens to US are in decline reason no jobs.
President Obama MUST focus the debate on environmental issues, where democrats have a huge advantage. If Republicans win the majority in the senate, the chair of the Senate environment committee goes to Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma, who will dismantle every environmental program and regulation in the entire country. Inhofe/ Romney/Ryan have said over and over again that they want to abolish significant environmental regulations, programs, and government agencies that protect your environment to create unspecified tax cuts and jobs. This will result in no services on public lands, dirtier waterways, increased air pollution, contaminated drinking water, elimination of endangered species protection, reduced public control of hazardous waste, and continued denial of climate change and it’s threat to humanity. Do you want to rollback half a century of environmental progress that has given you quality of life and has contributed to the increased human life span? Are you listening to your party leaders?
Yes and white people also invaded America and stole it from Natives; committing the largest genocide in history.
It's invasion, stupid, and the administration closes its eyes and opens my wallet.
Except there have been record numbers of deportations under Obama, but I'm sure Rush Limbaugh and the rest of his buddies on Fox didn't let you know that.
The latinos who are voting must be legal citizens who believe in the laws of the land, right? So how can they support 'illegal' immigration and why is the media promoting and encouraging this? Globalist agenda? Should we NOT remove from the books the laws we are not going to enforce. That way we can still call ourselves a 'nation of laws' and not become a joke.
Why is it not racist to court latino vote as a block? Why cant latino vote like americans? If each community voted for their narrow interests, what is the future of America as a united country?
The govt must remove from books all laws that they do not intend to enforce. It will lighten the load of law books.
He may have inherited two wars, but why did he start a 3rd? How can you be OK with a president who has increased the extra-judicial drone killings? Hear no evil, see no evil. Obama is Bush III and you know it.
Is it Legal or Illegal immigration that matters? Does it matter to you?
Why don't you head down to their neighborhood and start the process. We'll be right along to help as soon as we can get free. LMAO.
Immigration??? How about food stamps, welfare, social security, free healthcare, driver's licenses and the list goes on and on and on. What an OBMINATION!
Here is what Romney and Ryan will do to this country and Latinos.
Romney and the Republicans want to take this country back to the dark days of the Great Recession. Their Policies from 2001 to 2008 brought this great nation to its knees, their policies caused the Great Recession, their policies wiped out almost 10,000,000 jobs as a direct result of the Great Recession, their policies wiped out retirement savings for tens of millions of Americans as a direct result to the Great Recession, their policies took a $1 trillion surplus to a $13 trillion deficit, their policies resulted in the decline in the percentage of Americans that are in the middle class, their policies resulted in tens of millions of Americans without healthcare, their policies resulted in millions of Americans losing their homes, and the list goes on. Romney’s idea of caring for those that are struggling is the implement the same Republican policies that were in place that decimated those that are struggling today.
How can any Americans think that Romney/Ryan policies would be better for the Economy. The only way for anyone to think that is if they are suffering from total amnesia. Have people forgotten what happened in 2007/2008 and the years leading up to the Great Recession. It was the exact same policies that Romney is advocating now that caused the Great Recession. Are we that dumb to think that these same policies that caused the Great Recession will somehow magically make the economy better.
I guess Romney/Ryan think we are all stupid and don’t know the truth and can’t remember the dark days of the great recession of 2007 and 2008 and the years leading up to it.
The choice is clear. Do we want to go back to the exact same policies (Romney/Ryan current policies) that brought America (this great Nation) to its knees or do we want to continue to build on the recovery.
That pretty well sums it up with the exception of Romney drolling at the chance to drag us into another war, this time with Iraq, so he can crank up the defense spending while using other peoples children as cannon fodder.
will you open your eyes?why do you think the price of everything has gone up(gas-food–etc)–our dollar is worth less-reason–weowe tooo much money to other countries--would you spend more money than you make each week?why should our country do it-we have to cut back on everything to make our country strong again–last year $284.4billion us spent in our country for illegals-it has to stop-take care of our own people first!
Minorities (especially black people)
With Romney as President, leave your rights in your head. Because they will only be a dream. And the revised JIm Crow laws will make certain of that.
With Romney as President get used to big government spying into your uterus
With Romney as President be ready to show your papers. Because this Country will be a police state and you will be the target.
With Romney as President be ready to raise another man’s baby, possibly by a black man.If your wife, daughter or loved one gets raped and becomes pregnant, by law she will be forced to have the baby.
With Romney as President you'd better make peace with God. Because some of you will die giving birth. Because your bodies will not be mature enough to carry a baby to term.
Yawn. It must be nice living in a delusional world. No one is advocating returning to Jim Crow. That type of idiocy ruined any argument that you may have had. Fail.
This had to be written by one of those ugly women from N.O.W. I've never heard such garbage and lies, but then again you're probably a Democrat so it goes with the territory.
The hate against Mexicans is so overwhelming here, nevermind that Hispanics have been in the Southwestern United States longer than any Anglos. After all we founded cities like San Antonio, Santa Fe, Santa Cruz, Los Angeles, we are part of this country too. Freeloaders? Please, most Mexicans come here to work, and instead of begging on the street corner they are actually waiting to be picked up to work.
Texas, California, Neveda, New Mexico and Arizona were all taken illegally from Mexico. And by the way, Janet Brewer is an illegal alien. I hope she shows her birth certificate when she gets stop by the cops.
Are you kidding? Police in Arizona only stop brown-colored people
You might want to get off your high horse. How anyone can be proud of a genocidal heritage is beyond me. Onate cut off hands in order to secure his land. It is nothing to be proud of and no better than those you hate.
We already have immigration policies that are, sadly, not enforced. I am sick and tired of the Latino fringe elements crying for "immigration policy" which, in their view, is an open border. It's time we enforced our own policies and did away with any hint of "amnesty". If we had enforced our own policies decades ago we wouldn't have the current problems that we do. As far as immigration policy enforcement is concerned, the US is decades behind most countries. It all comes down to the politicians kissing anyone's a s s within earshot for a vote. Grow a pair people, and enforce our immigration policies!
Any immigration reform that does not also go after employers of illegals, is doomed to failure. If you make it impossible for them to get jobs or handouts, they will go home. Turn off the magnet, the nails will drop.
How are you going to curb it when your very own lobbyists are working against every attempt to stop it. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has lobbied successfully against every effort to curb illegal immigration including a national biometric ID card. They are not some liberal weenie group. Staunchly conservative they are speding millions on advertsing to defeat Obama. But when it comes to illegal immigration, while they publically condemn it, they fight vehemently to stop any attempt to curb it. Why? Because it works to their advantage.
That's right, it is about immigration. It is about stopping, forever, the free flow of illegal alien leeches and sycophants. It doesn't surprise me that they are voting for Obama. Everything they do is illegal, including voting.
No different from the GOP not stopping abortion when they had firm control of all three branches. Let's face it, "both" parties will pee on you and tell you it's raining.
comma,,,,,and then stupid.yet another catch phrase the msm creates hoping it will motivate the sheeple.
Democrats are sheep.
Reagan's 1986 amnesty was the beginning of the end.
"President Barack Obama has the support of 70% of likely Latino voters, according to a new CNN/ORC International poll."
A separate poll said 27% Americans are Republicans, this CNN/ORC suggests 30% Latinos are either Republicans or will vote Republican. It's not too different from the percentage of Americans that are Republicans.
Why should we obey the law? Our invaders don't and get rewarded for it. We're second rate citizens in our own courty. Myself, I'd rather give them lead. A leech is a leech. No matter what you call it?
I have Latino friends. Not all are here to mooch. I have great news. The poll taken by CNN is BS. Pera Latino friend, another friend's mother was deported by Obama so he got himself legal so he could vote against him. They are also spreading the word to other Latinos. Sure hope they have success!
IWould you shoot the owners of businesses who are using YOUR money to subsidize their cheap cost of labor? Illegals are coming here because we keep paying them to come.
The GOP says one thing but you will notice all the comments from the GOP posters on this site tell the real story. If you are brown they want you to leave town. They don't care if your great great grandparents were third generation Americans. You are just another brown problem for them.
How many do you employ?
Yawn. Keep crying wolf. A select few have racist motivations. The majority simply want the rule of law to be respected.
As a Democrat it saddens me greatly to see the party grovel for the votes of people who don't have the common decency to take their turn in line to immigrate. My fiancee overcame great difficulties to come to the US legally, and we resent deeply the favors being granted to people who did not come her through the legal process, but jumped the line and made her ordeal even harder.
I could never vote Republican because I work for a living and the Republicans view me as nothing more than a cost to be minimized. They have no regard for working people. But Democrats need to come to their senses and realize that a lot of us working stiffs resent what illegal immigration has done to the workplace and to our lives, and want the illegal immigrants expelled, by force if necessary, as soon as possible. They did not come here through the legal process and have no right to be here or to receive any consideration from citizens and legal residents whatsoever. They deserve nothing except expulsion, and the sooner the better.
Hear, hear. Both parties became shells of their former selves the day they started to care more about giving our money to their friends than actually representing the people.
The GOP talks well to the Latino population when they are looking for votes. The rest of the time they are second class citizens that should go home according to the GOP. Even when they are from families that have been in the USA since before the USA.
The reason for the distance between Latinos and Republicans is the republican party's stance in immigration. After witnessed all the efforts in Arizona (SB1070) and other states, promoted by REPUBLICANS, it is difficult to align with them. After Romney's declarations in the primaries, Arizona's law is a model for the country, among other disgraceful statements, no wonder there is a HUGE distance. What happened with the party of Reagan and Bush? Latinos can align easily with most of republican conservative values. But there is zero tolerance, in the latino's community, for attacks against latinos. For that reason, the best Latino vote promoter, for Obama, has been the current Governor of Arizona. If Republicans continue promoting these policies they will not get the latino vote. and without it, They do not have a chance to get back the Casa Blanca. It is right: It is immigration stupid Republicans. Need to adopt back the policies of Reagan and Bush.
A lot of Democrats are sick and tired of having to cater to illegal immigrants but there seems to be no voice for those with liberal social views who are pro union and anti-corporatioon but who also are America first types who deeply resent both illegal immigration and trade policies that do not promote US industry over those from abroad. Where is that party?
Illegal immigrants are the harder working people that I know. Few people can deal with the hard field conditions (for miserables salaries and no benefits) and long hours cleaning toilets or washing dishes. This result in cheap food and services for the rest of America. Real data, if that exist, will show that benefit to society in savings, for reduction in costs by the work of modern slavery based on illegals, is huge vs. cost of catering, like you say, for these guys. This is the reason a comprehensive immigration is required to end this modern slavery and also to end, for the rest of us to continue paying cheap food and services.
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I was born in one country, raised in another.
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I was not his only child.
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My mother died at an early age from cancer.
Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father, not my mother.
Later in life, questions arose over my real name.
My birth records were sketchy.
No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.
I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.
I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.
That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.
I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.
It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.
I became active in local politics in my 30s. Then, with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40s.
They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone Into anything.
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I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.
This bolstered my ego.
At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy...
I was very critical of my country in the last war and seized every opportunity to bash my country.
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I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.
It was the free market, banks and corporations.
I decided to start making citizens hate them; and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.
I called mine "A People's Campaign."
That sounded good to all people.
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So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities."
My true views were not widely known, and I kept them unknown until after I became my nation's leader.
I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.
Then I became the most powerful man in the world.
And then the world learned the truth.
Who am I?
answer: ADOLPH HITLER.
If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared ... very scared!
e careful who you vote for!
You forgot to mention: Hitler was Jewish.
You also forgot to mention that what HItler did to the Jews has nothing to do with current immigration policy or arguments. Last time I looked neither party has set up gas chambers. Grow a brain stem and learn how to think accurately...
Big_D you took the words right out of my mouth.
Liberalism is definately a mental disorder.
People, arguing about which empty suit is going to save America is like debating which form of terminal cancer is better. We need to reboot our government and the false "two party" system, which does not care about you or me.
"immigration" is just a code word for "Latio racial interest at the expense of whites" - when will white people wake up to this? They're like little Terminators - you cannot negotiate with "Latinos" - they will only back you if you put their racial interest above your own.
There is no racial master plan. It's a perverse incentive created by politicians on both the left and right to help out their special interests. White people are not the only ones who suffer because of this. Middle class people who want to be normal, pay taxes, obey the law and be productive citizens all suffer from the social costs of illegal immigration. No need to build a 2,000 mile militarized border, just turn off the twin perverse incentives of generous subsidies for illegals and aggressively prosecute ALL businesses who hire them. For bonus points, repeal NAFTA so Mexico can rebuild their corn farming that was destroyed by U.S. subsidized corn dumping. I won't hold my breath, "neither" party is serious about this, they want to keep the true believers frothy.
My fiancee, who was born in China and is now a US citizen often asks me why whites do not fight Mexicans and throw them out. Take it from me, one of the worst things you can be in this country is Chinese American with a Mexican supervisor. They will walk all over you, talk trash about you, pull at the corners of their eyes and mock you saying "hey Chino" then laugh at you afterwards, steal your tips, give you lousy shifts or no shifts at all why his homies get all the good shifts. She hates Mexicans and I am learning to.
Yes well maybe you should pay for your wife to get a decent education so she won't have to worry about getting tips. This is why you hate us, because one Mexican-American supervisor won't give your wife a good shift? You are also lying, we would not say "hey Chino" to a woman, we would call her a "china" which is the Spanish word for Chinese woman.
II guess your fiancee has not told you how "civilized" people act in China.
Does your Fiancee's restaurant also cook roadkill deer like other Chinese restaurants in America?
She really needs to get another job or report this abuse to the labor board.
We have a good immigration policy that has worked for many years. The problem is with the "illegal aliens who want to bypass the immigration policies and just come on in as they please.
Don't blame the roaches, blame the people who leave dirty dishes in the sink.
BRAVO! BRAVO! I would add to that if you came here illegally and have any additional criminal acts on your record, you should be deported immediately. Regardless of family ties, etc. And if your family doesn't like it, tell them to come with you on the way out. If you have job skills and are not a total leach, pay back all the taxes you OWE! to the state and federal governments and then will sit down and talk about work visas, etc.
To the rest of you illegal squatters that were stupid enough to have kids here, we'll just like every other LEGAL citizen, your kid goes where you go. Sorry! If your being deported to Mexico, Guatemala, etc. your kid goes with you. The rest of you parasites GET THE HELL OUT
Jhnny and Trigg are both right! If it's ILLEGAL send them home and that is not the U.S.A.
Yeah – let's look ahead 30 to 40 years when the whole of the United States looks like the squalid towns of Mexico. You really didn't build this! And Texas? Bought and paid for, so shut it.
Let's wait and see, people. Let's wait and see.
All I know is So Cali's WAY WAY WAY too crowded. Why must Latinos have 4 to 14 children per family? It's not like there's enough land to work a farm any more. Forget the Pope and use birth control. We don't need another Mexico City.
There is no time. Good news, if you want to get a good indicator of the future, go anywhere in Los Angeles east of the 5 and south of the 10. Illegal immigration has destroyed scores of neighborhoods that whites kept in good order. The sad thing is, the taxpayers completely subsidized this destruction. The ultimate winner of this are the politicians and businesses who love cheap labor. This idea is very un-American.
As an American first and a Latino second, I cannot support either corporate-owned party's promotion of illegal immigration. The GOP turns a blind eye to big agribusiness' hiring of illegals for cheap labor, while the Democrats pander to illegals and their supporters as a reliable permanent underclass voting block similar to African-Americans. If either party supported stiff sanctions with teeth against employers of illegals, I would find more of a reason to support them. Before you accuse me of being a self-hater, remember, Cesar Chavez was opposed to illegal immigrant labor because he knew that they undermine the bargaining power of all workers.
The point is if we do not control this deficit we have been facing. It wont matter about immigration, the poor, and whoever and whatever else. We wont have an America where people strive to come here for a better life and a chance to succed. Why? VOTE ROMNEY. Dont be bias give the man a chance. You want to get off welfare and have a chance for non dependancy then vote Romeny!
Again Bravo. This president and his democratic following are exactly whats wrong with this country. No-one is resonsible for their own ations, its always someone elses fault, you don't have to be self suffiicient the government will always help you out, don't worry about cheating and gaming the system (social services, welfare, whatever) as the rich will pay, and oh if you're not white, not a republican /conservative, and not a legal U.S. citizen, no worries we got your back as long as you vote for us.
Is that who you want for leadership? Seriously? The country can't afford 30 or 40 million impoverished illegal immigrants, crapping out babies left and right, all on welfare and the chaos insuing when 10-20% of the population has the eductation of a 3rd grader and can't speak a lick of English.
Well that would be native american indians not mexicans you fool.
Fool? Looks like someone doesn't even know why Mexicans aren't considered "white" It is soley because of our ties to the native inhabitants of the Americas, Mexico had hundreds of Indian tribes and most of the Hispanics from the Southwest are direct descendants of groups like Navajo and Apaches who converted to Catholicism and intermixed with Spaniards. Even some modern Navajo today have Spanish last name and are Catholic, gee i WONDER why.
Maybe some of the Latino's in the US should check out how well Obama's policies have worked in Mexico. Hundreds murdered so Obama could push gun control legislation. Those lives didn't mean squat to him. If thats the kind of president latino's want, so be it and I'll be proud to vote for the other guy.
President Obama doesn't govern Mexico. The murders over drug turf has been going on long before Obama was POTUS. Get your facts straight before you post id iotic comments.
No he's just making ICE totally ineffective and allowing drug cartels and illegals to run rampant once they get across the border. There hasn't been any significant action by the Obama administration to curtail illegal immigration, in fact they've encouraged it. All these crackpot statistics about how Obama has supposedly deported more illegal immigrants than Bush did is a crock. Its called self deportation because the U.S. economy sucks!
Apparently, giving them guns is ok, though. You seem to care nothing about the scores murdered with weapons that came from Holder and Co.
Haha funny. That's not the reason we don't vote for republicans. We don't vote for them because of the hostility that the GOP has showed Hispanics. And no, i'm not referring to just the politicians, i'm referring to everyday, ordinary members of the GOP, who like to tell us to go back where we came from, even though a lot of us are birthright citizens. Until the GOP realizes that not all Hispanics are illegals and not all illegals are Hispanic, until we feel that the GOP no longer treats us as second class citizens, until that day comes, we're gonna vote overwhelmingly democrat. Oh, and for the record, I'm not a liberal government freeloader, the idea of taking welfare handouts makes me sick, my views are that of a moderate.
I am a Republican and I agree with you – to a point. There are many who do exactly as you say and treat the latino immigrants the way you say. There are also many of us who do not. Please look past your narrow (no offense just a descriptive word) view of us. The best way to erase stereotypes is open dialogue.
do you live on another planet? Maybe you fell off of a turnip truck!
Gee not surprised another Obama photo opt now with latino's. Your not to much in the tank for this loser to win CNN!
Let's revisit this issue 30-40 years from now when ethnic minorities are the majority and white folk are looked as the 'vermin', the 'true invaders' the ones who always want to take over and do not respect other people's laws or culture.
By then Texas may have seceeded from the union and become a rouge state because they feel threatened and under siege.
30-40 years from now the idea that the United States is a nation of immigrants will drive economics and the legal system and this discussion about who is invading where will be over. By then the Republican party will be an after thought like the Jim Crow laws and the age of slavery. It's all part of the same continum.
No sir its you that are the vermin and we'll see who really truely win. Remember there are 200+ million of us in the country. You have a LONG LONG ways to go before you are the majority and can start your terror of genocide as you are in LA with African Americans. Just try it and see what happens.
Yeah, this person you're calling vermin has been a science teacher for 15 years. Let's wait and see.
Well i can see the kind of class you teach. Racial superiority and LA Raza.
Wow, after all the abuse and disrespect from the true invaders, you're siding with them? How sad.
You know this same people that invaded and trampled native american nations are the same people that created unfair laws that bound you to land property laws and expelled you from your ancestor's land.
Please reconsider, it is about being treated like a human being. No one is saying hand citizenship to every one, temporary work permits would be enough for thousands of people, it would allow them to participate fully in this society, pay their taxes and contribute.
According to your rational, nobody is allowed to leave their homeland, no matter how broken a country might be, whether it is at war or impoverished. Everyone should just go back where they come from. Please.
OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN. OUR GOVERNMENT IS LETTING ILLEGALS IN AND ALLOWING THEM TO SAY HERE. THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO REMOVE OBAMA AS A TRAITOR AND AS A MAN OF NO MORALS. He is appealing to illegals for votes instead of Americans. i cannot be the only one who sees this as a traitor. He is allowing foreigners to take away our rights. Who would want such a man as their leader. Our young people must know this is our country and we need to take care of our people. Mexcio and South America need to take care of their own people, and stay our of our lands.
Verne, take your medicine, remove the tin foil hat, and maybe you will stop those hallucinations that fill your hatred.
I disagree. He makes perfect sense.
By your people i assume you mean White people. Its American's stupid! We don't want all you free loaders here overwhelming the system. Oh and by the way, just because your heritage is Latino doesn't make you a Native American. Most are a mixture of black, white (spanish), and maybe some native American. You have no more claim to this land than anyone here legally. So back your bags and start hitch hiking back across the border.
Welcome to Verne, Verne speaks for the vast majority of the GOP. Go ahead and vote for Vern if you want Latinos.
Wow, an incoherent drawn up summation like that only does a disservice to your entire race. Please don't speak, or spell for them. Sheesh
YOU People from all over the world come here and there are too many of them. Just because you came here and took advantage of Americans doesn't mean you should be able to do it for the entire country population of your country.
AMERICA IS BEING RUINED BY PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT FOLLOW OUR LAWS.
Verne, so what are you doing here? Weren't your ancestors immigrants....or illegals? This country was taken from the Native Americans....not the other way around. Besides, this is a country of immigrants from different cultures looking for a better life. You're such a lame narrow-minded buffoon who needs more education, or are you afraid of that too?
latinos vote for the president because he really care and mitt do not care.also be a smart voter , the reason the dream
act is not law is because the republicans block the bill and if given another change they will do it again, the
majoridy of republicans do not like latinos and want them to self depot. vote for obama.
Wow, an incoherent drawn up summation like that only does a disservice to your entire race. Please don't speak, or spell for them. Typical
No need to be so rude. I appreciate that this person is willing to give their perspective. Thank you!
Really? Be a smart voter? You haven't grasped the fundementals of the English language. Punctionspelling. grammer, capitol letters at the start of the sentence are the most noticableproblems . I'm guessing (not trying to be rude) that you are here illiegally and did not graduate. You seem to have a basic understanding of the language but lack theunderstanding of the finer points. FYI, no one really cares about the Latinos one way or the other. They simply want your votes. The problem that most of us have with Latinosis whether or not they are here legally.
Hmm, lets see your words are joined in some cases making them incoherent, and then you also misspell. Does that make you an illegal immigrant who never graduated as well?
I merely hit the post button accidentally (instead of the "notify me" button) before I finished proof-reading my comments.
Do you have a problem with the many Russians,Jews, Asians or Armenians that can't speak the language? Typical racist behavior.
Actually, no I do not. Like I said, I meant no offense. My comment was in response to the "smart voter" comment. Naturally, I screwed up and posted it accidentally before I finished (and proof-read).
No, Obama had majority in Congress and in the House and didn't pass it because some Democrats didn't pass it either.
If Obama wanted to pass the Dream Act he would do it as he did with Obamacare and his deferral deportation.
The only Party that does something for immigrants is the Republican Party, Reagan was Republican and gave 100% amnesty
If people come here without visa's they should self-deport its the LAW.
My husband is very Republican and he married me, so some of them like Latinos
So sad. So very sad of your narrow vision, and lack of common sense. What is it with you repubs anyway? You screwed up when you brought in the "Shrub" in 2000, for the biggest fiasco of a prez our country will ever know, and now you want to repeat those same mistakes with this rich kid idiot who doesn't know what it's like to sweat for your daily bread. Give me a break!!!
rich kid? Exuse me, but even the liberal news states that Romney wealth was not inheited, he is a self-made millionare.
keep thinking that, obama had 2 years to get something done and all he did was push obamacare thur, and he didn't do anything for your people., and he did nothing for the balcks either, but now he needs 4 more years,so now he wants to lie to you again and say if you vote for me i will get amnesty and the dream act pass. its sad when people can't see what obama is all about, hes all about obama and thats it.
BTW, the Native American arguement is a false arguement. The America's had NO native humanoids that inhabited the land until Asians IMMIGRATED here. So again, all you false talkers....the conversation is about ILLEGAL immigration. Not about immigration, or land bridge excursions, or who lost thier land vis a vi war actions, etc...
Dude, you're talking ancient history, which has nothing to do with our country's history. Get the facts, it might surprise you.
Dude, history is history and is very relavent to this conversation.
Those pesky laws we won't follow keep getting everyones attention.
I agree on you.. It is not only Latinos.... The main stream media & politicians does not know the difference between immigrant and illegal immigrant. I am waiting for a decade in a legal queue to get the green card and people say it will take another 70 years to get that... Poor legal immigration policy...
@brokenwatch as a son to Mexican immigrants, I was raised with both Mexican and American cultures all wrapped into one. We don't necessarily support people breaking the laws but at the same time understand that the immigration laws are broken. Both of my parents are naturalized citizens of this country and they couldn't be more proud. Unfortunately, the only way they could achieve their path to citizenship was by breaking the law in the first place. Mexicans do not qualify for visa lotteries simply because of being Mexicans. Their lucky if they get temporary tourist visas (and yes, they take advantage of these to avoid crossing the border and risk of death). So why do we stand up for other immigrants who come here illegally? Because we know first hand what it feels like to live in a third world country when visiting relatives. Living on $80 a week if their "lucky" yet food and clothing costs more than it does here. We know that its not worth the wait for coming to this country legally by being sponsored by relatives, two of my uncles have been waiting over 14 years with no guarantee. As sons of immigrants, we are surrounded by all this as we grow up and witness it first hand. Will my daughter feel like that when she grows up? Who knows but likely not as passionate as me if she does. As to people who say immigrants take advantage of welfare and benefits, let me be the first to admit, yes my parents did take advantage of this opportunity after my dad was working 2 jobs, my mother another, and yet we still had to share an apartment with another family to make ends meet. I'm 24 years old now, I do not and have never been on food stamps on my own because I no longer need it. I have my securities license for 5 years working in the financial industry, have paid my share of taxes multiple times over for whatever my parents needed, not including what they contribute now which is paying it multiple times over themselves. I have my own business on the side and pay those taxes as well. Saying immigrants take advantage of programs is biased and not the full picture of the contribution immigrants have on this country.
The reason that it's so hard for Mexicans to get visas is BECAUSE of the huge number of ILLEGAL Mexicans that are already in the U.S. Those ILLEGAL aliens count against the quota of people allowed to LEGALLY immigrate from Mexico. So, for those who want to LEGALLY immigrate here, they should be the loudest opponents to illegal aliens and amnesty for ANY illegal alien, no matter what age. As long as there are so many illegal Mexican aliens in this country it will continue to be hard for any Mexican to legally immigrate here.
Its really sad they don't have a census on mexicans like they do on all american people then maybe visa's can be given at least for work.
People like you make me sick. America can't absorb all the world poor. And you are a racist who only wants Latino immigrants because they look like you. You wouldn't be defending them if they were mostly from Canada.
Fix your own country – don't flock to America to sponge off our dimininshing wealth.
And why not? I support any immigrant that makes this country better. Look at Google (one founder is Russian), Apple (Jobs dad is immigrant), Yahoo (immigrants), and the list goes on and on. Immigrants change the landscape as they have always done, statue of liberty remember. If immigrants have always done so good for the country, why limit, young entrepreneurs and say their diminishing wealth. So far they've been the ones keeping the country afloat. Look at your history and facts before making comments about how immigrants reduce wealth
I think, but can't be positve, that he was referring to ILLEGAL" immigrants. I agree, immigration can be a wonderful thing. Unchecked immigration however is a nightmare.
ProudSonofImmigrants, what position is it that you are arguing for? For most people the issue isn't one of immigration but of coming to and staying in the country illegally. With already approximately a million immigrants legally in the country every year, I'd say that is sufficient. We don't need another up to a million illegal immigrants.
Did you remember when Barack was still Senator and W was President when Immigration reform bill was blocked by Barack in the Senate because the bill was sponsored by John McCain ? W was very eager to have a immigration Bill passed but no luck with Democrat controlled senate then. W tried to lure them with Temporary workers visa as compromise provision but got nowhere !
Well said. We do contribute more to this country than many of you know, we work harder than many of you and support America more than you think, now to the point that the Latino vote will be the one defining the next president of the United States. We have come long way.
Your "contributions" are using EBT cards to buy bulk sized containers of tortillas and lard and then setting up a "roach coach" on the side of the road to sell tacos for cash. You pay nothing for the ingredients purchased on the EBT cards and then no taxes on the cash revenue generated. Because your "reported income" is slow low, your kids eat free at school, you get a free cell phone and other "lifeline" assistance, and clog up ER waiting rooms for minor treatments you won't pay for anyway.
Thank you for this perspective! I appreciate the time you took to help better understand.
Thanks! A totally honest explanation on what I was trying to figure out. I figured on my own that most (not all) Latinos had to have some ties to someone who struggled to come over here (legally or not) I assumed that's why some or most legal Latinos support (in some form or another) those who came here illegally. You were able to put a much more detailed picture together for me though.
The headline is wrong and should read: "It's about AMNESTY, stupid." Nothing else matters to these invading trespassers and their treasonous supporters than to get undeserved citizenship. Nothing. Which, btw, has NOTHING to do with "immigration." Note to editors: we're not THAT stupid.
They are not illegal tresspassers. They are foreign invaders who come to our country to plunder our social services. I am not against immigration, I am against illegal immigration. It is time to stop this invading horde of parasites not pander to them. We should not bend knee to the demands of lawbreakers and their accomplices. There are ways to enter our nation legally, and none of them involve coyotes, or sneaking across the border of a sovereign nation.
The whole issue circles one fact..... ILLEGALLY IN THIS COUNTRY!!! If those that are here cannot obtain legal status then back to where they come from. Yes its not that great in Mexico, but why run..... stand up and fight to make your country better!!!! <<<<<PROFOUND THOUGHT
II could say the same thing about your ancestors and whatever country they came from.
Are you going to include your ancestors too?
Speak for yourself! I am Latino and I will not be voting obama and neither will any of my family. Pendejo!
Latino neighborhood in the UPW NYC – pretty much all voting Obama
Latinos want blanket amnesty for all latinos than come here, what ever the way, and are not citizens, without going through the legal immigration process. In other words "special treatment". Why? What a kick in the face to those going through the legal process and not just going through a hole in the fence. Obama by pandering to the Latino vote is destroying America by making a mockery of our laws which specify a legal path to immigration and citizenship. In California the "Reconquista" (retaking of America ) is almost complete with Mexicans, mostly illegal, making up the majority population in many towns and cities and more Spanish than English now spoken. Why is Obama helping the "Reconquista"? To get an election win at all costs?The end result will be a majority population of latinos with the legal citizens paying their taxes for the education, welfare, medical benefits and gang prevention work with this population. California is almost already lost but I pray we can save the rest of America..
you can continue with your HOPE and CHANGE then and see what HOPium will bring you in 4 years because last 4 years was wasted and just gave us more debt to the tune of $16 Trillion now ! That means every one of us, adult and babies now owes $50,000 in debt and will keep on increasing as interest keeps piling on.
It's not about immigration at all. Its about the existing citizenry of this fading nation.
Citizens must be the primary focus at all times, otherwise what is the point.
So, some racist Latinos think their Raza is above the law and should have a monopoly on dictating immigration policy upon the rest of the nation.
By the name of the organization alone, Race is advertised openly and that should be enough to brand them as a racists organization !
ECONOMISTS SAY THAT THE PROBLEM OF IMMIGARTION WILL DISAPPEAR AS IT IS COSTING TOO MUCH MONEY TO ALLOW IT IN A FUTURE ECONOMY OF DEPRESSION
“I fought with you in the Senate for comprehensive immigration reform. And I will make it a top priority in my first year as President.” July 2008 Senator B Obama 4 years later and he only signed a paper that means nothing in 2 years.
Don't you remember the correct warning of Hillary then that Barack is all WORDs and nothing else. Remember he also promised to cut our debt to half in 4 years or else become a one-term President ? Now, he managed to increased our debt from $11 Trillion (actually less) to $16 Trillion in less than 4 years of his reign ! W increase the debt of same size over a longer period of 8 full years ! That is the truth of how Barack saddled future generations with more debt. Each of us, adult children, including babies now owe $50,000 in debt and interest will keep on piling up.
I voted Republican last Presidential Election but I am leaning Democrat this time. President Obama has done more than enough for me to vote for him this time. I was able to keep my house and re-nogotiate my mortagage loan to a very minimun percentage ( yes, because I didn't read the fine print on the loan, this was my mistake), I was able to keep my college student son on my medical insurance, because Obama care my relative was able to purchase medical insurance, two of my relatives qualified for Dream Act. These are few things we were not able to achive during the last Republican President. I am sure our President would have done more for all of us if the republicans for whom I voted for wouldn't stop many of the great programs he has brought to the table. I do not complaint, I just work hard. Mr. President THANK YOU SO MUCH and YES, I WILL VOTE FOR YOU THIS TIME.
so because you get all the assistance you need, paid for by the taxpayer, you're voting for obama.
How about stop being lazy and take responsibility for your idiocy. "Not reading the fine print" in a contract is no excuse for taxpayers to bail you out of your outrageous loan.
It is fascist swine such as yourself that pay no taxes, that cause wars to profiteer off of at taxpayer and young people's expense and which drove this country into the economic ditch that it is in. You should all be deported to Saudi and Pakistan where you can fight your own battles.
You must be still dreaming after drinking too much HOPE and CHANGE. There is no Dream Act, because Barack blocked it in Senate when John McCain led the fight for it's approval. Barack and Senate Democrats opposed it because it was sponsored by McCain and W was even trying to lure support with compromise Temporary Workers Visa but got nowhere. Don't you remember those facts ? Barack speaks with forked tongue and Hillary correctly warns us then that Barack is just all WORDs and nothing else !
So because Obama gave you some handouts with my tax money you are now leaning to supporting him? Romney was right and you must be in the "47%".
Its not your tax money – its all americans, including latinos.
Stop blaming the government for Illegal being here illegally.
I don't understand the logic behind the statement David Demore makes saying "The thinking is, he says, is that maybe we should give Romney a chance to fatten our pocketbooks but we can't take the risk with immigration.". What I don't understand is if you are allowed to vote then I assume you are a legal citizen. So if you are a legal citizen, why do you care if we start enforcing or tightening up our immigration laws? Why do Latino citizens care so much about the illegal immigration policies? My family lineage is Swiss, but when I vote for a candidate I wouldn't care if they wanted to crack down on illegal Swiss immigrants (hypothetically as if the Swiss were illegally immigrating). Do legal Latinos feel this obligation to "hook up" their own kind and make sure they can come over and do what they want w/o consequence? That's more people you have to compete for to get your share of the "pie" so to speak. I would want that influx of people to be controlled (as legal immigration) regardless of my origins. I don't understand this desire among the legal Latino community to welcome and support illegal immigration. I'm not complaining, its a legit question, someone please explain...Thanks!
This is a good question! I speculate that they know and care about someone who has come here illegally in the past. This person may work really hard and did it to benefit their family. Maybe that person ran into insurmountable obstacles in coming here legally (there is a lot of racism and scapegoating at work in the U.S when it comes to immigration). Just a theory....hopefully someone else who has more firsthand experience will answer this.
"Maybe that person ran into insurmountable obstacles in coming here legally "
No, not at all. It's the same reason why people don't have health insurance... its just an inconvenience for them. They literally just have to fill out a few forms and pay a fee... no racism or scapegoating involved. My wife came here from another country as well as her family. There are limits to the number of immigrants that are allowed to enter the country from each country but there are loopholes... I have absolutely no respect for those that come here illegally. Its like me coming into your house and drinking your milk because I am thirsty without asking for permission.
It's because legal immigrants usually have illegal family members in the state.
Agreed Jeff. While I appreciate the perspective you gave on your wife and her family, I don't think that everyone has had such a positive experience with immigrating to this country and the comments on this article alone point to the fact that people blame illegal immigrants for everything and are angry to the point that they aren't particularly logical about their opinions . In my opinion, both sides carry some guilt in creating the problem (both the government regulation and the illegal actions of some immigrants).
@brokenwatch as a son to Mexican immigrants, I was raised with both Mexican and American cultures all wrapped into one. We don't necessarily support people breaking the laws but at the same time understand that the immigration laws are broken. Both of my parents are naturalized citizens of this country and they couldn't be more proud. Unfortunately, the only way they could achieve their path to citizenship was by breaking the law in the first place. Mexicans do not qualify for visa lotteries simply because of being Mexicans. Their lucky if they get temporary tourist visas (and yes, they take advantage of these to avoid crossing the border and risk of death). So why do we stand up for other immigrants who come here illegally? Because we know first hand what it feels like to live in a third world country when visiting relatives. Living on $80 a week if their "lucky" yet food and clothing costs more than it does here. We know that its not worth the wait for coming to this country legally by being sponsored by relatives, two of my uncles have been waiting over 14 years with no guarantee. As sons of immigrants, we are surrounded by all this as we grow up and witness it first hand. Will my daughter feel like that when she grows up? Who knows but likely not as passionate as me if she does. As to people who say immigrants take advantage of welfare and benefits, let me be the first to admit, yes my parents did take advantage of this opportunity after my dad was working 2 jobs, my mother another, and yet we still had to share an apartment with another family to make ends meet. I'm 24 years old now, I do not and have never been on food stamps on my own because I no longer need it. I have my securities license for 5 years working in the financial industry, have paid my share of taxes multiple times over for whatever my parents needed, not including what they contribute now which is paying it multiple times over themselves. I have my own business on the side and pay those taxes as well. Saying immigrants take advantage of programs is biased and not the full picture of the contribution immigrants have on this country
Immigration is a broken process which forces you to deal with oppressive government agencies. No one wants to admit the real reason for this. Why is it every president has done nothing but increase regulation, create more agencies and generally make it harder to immigrate legally? Because it is a national security issue. Who do you think are the first ones to blame when a terrorist comes to the US and drops a dirty bomb? USCIS now falls under homeland security since the Bush administration. Their primary concern: Make sure potential terrorists can't enter the country. Thus, everything they do means a more difficult immigration process.
How is republicans voting NO Obama's fault, republicans took an oath to the Tea Party to vote NO. Obama can only sign what comes to his desk. That's how the system works. Throw the republican bums out and you will get an immigration bill to Obama's desk.
ME- "Who cant defend there land loses their land"..So if some mob came to your house, beaten you up, rapped your family members, kicked you guys out...would you stay still and say " its ok, i couldnt defend my house, ill just let it go!"???
No. In that case we would call the police and have the mob forcibly removed. That's how I would defend my land in that situation. However, if you're talking about a situation in which law and order has so broken down that there is no police, then if I couldn't remove the mob myself, I WOULD lose my house.
Those Native people were defenseless....I hope you will never find yourself defensless!!
Defensless?? howmany history classes did you skip. How many massacres did the Indians carry out? I'm not saying the whites are innocent, but the Indians were not innocent either.
Phantom- true. but i the foreigners coming to the Americas werent better though!?? Killing millions of natives...!
Agreed. Not better. I was jst saying that both sides were merciless.
Brampt – I hope I never find myself defenseless either. THAT'S MY ENTIRE POINT!!!!
Why do people blame their losses on the government? Why do they blame their stupidity on someone else?
I'm sorry, but Obama has done nothing for the Latinos, he promised, but did not deliver on immigration reform. Plus as an American, I approve legal immigration. It is not right that the Latinos want citizenship for illegals that number in the millions.
Just shows the Democrats will promise anything for a vote, and have no spine.
Obama voted against relaxing immigration under Bush. Then he wanted the dream act (first suggested by the GOP), but put it into effect illegally to keep the GOP from expanding it and giving it the power of permanent law. If this is about immigration, it should be against Obama.
How is republicans voting NO Obama's fault, republicans took an oath to the Tea Party to vote NO. Obama can only sign what comes to his desk. That's how the system works.
Wow, you can cut and paste! Now work on making truthful statements.
Whenever the word "STUPID" escapes your lips, nobody listens anymore.
Im not latino, but I dont agree in beeing harsh with the latino community when the true immigantes are the descendants of the white people, that came from Great Britain, and killed and rapped the Native people already living in this continent.
They also came from Spain, France, and South America.
I hope you realize that without those terrible european invaders there wouldn't be any such thing as a 'latino', right? Or a United States for them to sneak into.
And please, if you want your views taken seriously...there's this thing called 'spell check'. Get to know it. Learn to use it. Because regardless of the validity of your view, you come across as a poorly educated, poorly informed, and easily dismissed.
You do realize that the Latinos are descendents of Spaniards and Portugese who came over here and raped (I am assuming that is what you meant unless you think the white settlers were rappers) and murdered the natives in central and south america
Yes, for the first two years of his Presidency, the democrats could have passed any Immigration Reform but did nothing but pass spending the money we did not have bills. Also passed a Healthcare bill that does not help illegal immigrants. they can get free healthcare at hospital emergency rooms.
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