By Moni Basu, CNN
(CNN) – Measuring the nation's gay population has always been tricky. Those who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender are still subject to social stigma, and many are not comfortable answering questions about their identity.
But in the largest survey of its kind conducted by Gallup, 3.4% of all Americans identified themselves as part of the LGBT community.
Gallup interviewed 120,000 Americans and found that the highest percentages of LGBT identification occurred among non-white, younger and less educated Americans.
Demographer Gary Gates said the survey sheds light on the diversity and complexity of the LGBT community.
"They offer an unprecedented resource for informing LGBT-related debates like those regarding marriage, parenting and workplace discrimination with much-needed facts rather than stereotype or anecdote," said Gates, a scholar with the UCLA School of Law's Williams Institute, which researches sexual orientation and gender identity issues.
The survey differs from the 2010 census, which for the first time measured sexual orientation. But the census counted same-sex partners and same-sex spouses - 516,396 households.
Of note in the latest Gallup survey, released Thursday, is the fact that non-whites are more likely to identify themselves as LGBT than whites, which challenges common belief that large numbers of the community are white, male and wealthy.
The Gallup poll showed that 4.6% of African-Americans identify as LGBT along with 4% of Latinos and 4.3% of Asian-Americans. Only 3.2% of white Americans say they are LGBT.
More women - 3.6% - identified as LGBT than men - 3.3%. That means 53% of the LGBT community are women.
And, perhaps not surprisingly, younger adults between the ages of 18 and 29 were more than three times as likely as seniors 65 and older to identify as LGBT - 6.4% of younger Americans said they were LGBT versus 1.9% of older people.
The new survey showed LGBT identification is highest among Americans with the lowest levels of education. Of those with a high school education or less, 3.5% identify as LGBT compared with 2.8% of those with a college degree and 3.2% of those with post-graduate education. LGBT identification is highest among those with some college education but not a college degree, at 4.0%.
How will America's LGBT population affect the presidential election?
Gallup found that 44% of LGBT Americans identify as Democratic; 43% as independent; and only 13% as Republican. That compares to 32% of non-LGBT Americans who identify as Democratic, 39% as independent, and 30% as Republican. The respective numbers in the non-LGBT community are 32% Democratic, 39% independent and 30% Republican.
"Given the strong Democratic tilt of the LGBT population, it is not surprising that registered voter preferences of LGBT Americans tilt strongly - but not monolithically - toward Barack Obama," the survey said. "Specifically, 71% of LGBT Americans who are registered voters support Obama, while 22% support Mitt Romney."
I am a gay man, I used to be a Democrat but now identify as a Republican. The amount of disrepect and hate I receive daily for that decision is staggering. So much for being the most accepting community out there. I will vote with the idea that if we don't get the economy on track and stop spending $ that we don't have we won't have a country left.
I love my country more than my bedroom decisions. Mitt Romney '12.
this is why I hate the idea of political parties to begin with. you have 1 or 2 issues that are important to you, but a whole truckload of other issues you may feel one way or another on get thrown into the mix on only one of two sides of the fence. it's idiotic to think people are truly that polarized- they're just picking what they see as the lesser of two evils.
it also means that politicians who run may just as likely have a diverse set of ideas, but by joining one party or the other are pressured by their party to tow the party line, and we lose diversity in our representatives.
You're being disrespected because of the insanity of supporting politicians who will ALWAYS go against your self-interests. Might as well be Black and join the KKK. It's collaborating with the enemy. You know what they did to collaborators in WWII?
I have met many gay people. One of which was a college coach. It was unpleasant. One was my Staff Sargent while serving in the military. I have high praise for him.
The reason behind my hate is from the reaction Will Cain got from his article concerning the lack of conservative professors and the bias they face trying to find work. Many of the negative comments SEEMED to be from the liberal gay community.
I guess dedicated Christians wouldn't like it if their religion was on the same level, but I guess it's because they can't imagine Christianity being a minority that wants equal rights with the mainstream population.
The price we pay for a free country is the fact that we have to give people the ability to practice their beliefs, however I do not condone serious crimes. Some people do not want LGBT people to have 'equal' rights because it violates their beliefs, but the law exists in an attempt to cater to everyone, including LGBT people.
Cool. It's nice to see Americans as independent as they become more informed enough to avoid corrupted influence of misinformation from bad rich ppl like those of Koch Brothers. Bravo Americans, watch every step, every decision you make, for it might not just affect your life but also others who might not be that fortunate.
Wow. Jesus' flock is so loving and compassionate. You guys never fail to *fail* in that category. You see conspiracies and boogie men – I mean Satan – and you rage, rage, rage because this is being "shoved down your throat," again.
Yeah, I kinda feel that way about your Jesus-pushing.
It is absurd that such a small percentage of the population has such a huge voice and is moving our country toward moral debauchery.
You are making a lot of assumptions in a single sentence so I feel the need to address your ambiguous sentence.
I will tell you, a lot of us in the LGBT community enjoy our spiritual live, some attend churches, and are productive members of society. We love deeply our families, partners, pets, like any other human being. Straight fellows are not much better when you look at the things even people within the high ranks of some judgemental churches (like that guy that wrote the book Obama 2016 just went through). I am not attacking anyone but simply stating that if you think the God of love is based on your comprehension, then you are not connected with him and I feel sorry for you.
We are all human beings, who deserve the love of the Almighty and, as such, we all have a right to leave our own life, equally, and in freedom. Because only each individual can truly know the road he's had to endure and walk, his reality and his connection with God. You imply in your sentence that you are the standard for morality, as even between individuals nowadays there are gray areas about what are the personal boundaries of morality and immorality. Please stop being an hypocrite, pretending that you are better than anyone, thinking that you are a better Christian, a better person, a chosen one, because in the end, you may just be a picker and chooser and, if so, wouldn't that set you at the bottom of the list.
What really matters in the end is that we set aside the personalities, look for our founding principles and stand together as a nation that was built on this great declaration: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
UNITED WE STAND
"We love deeply our families, partners, pets, like any other human being. "
And yet you cannot reproduce.
Sure they can, it's called surrogacy. Might want to look that up.
Decline and fall of Roman Empire
Wow. After reading some of the comments for this article i'd say many Americans are old, bigoted, and jusf plain dumb
I agree, but that didn't happen overnight.
This is very sad news. Families are being destroyed by people listening to satan telling them that they are somehow confused by their gender. RU kidding me?! People selling their souls for just getting off. Wow. What a bunch of idiots.
Wow, grown somewhat educated adults who still believe in satan and think they have a soul to sell. Do you really believe your "soul"(whatever that is, I don't remember it from biology), one of over 6,000,000,000 currently residing on Earth, assuming people have one, is so important that the two most powerful invisible creatures in the known universe are battling for your favor so they can have access to it. REALLY? Get over yourself, you are just another creature that naturally thinks this is all about you, in a long line of creatures over billions of years. You remind me of my cat, he thinks its all about him too!
Don't worry, you'll find out soon regardless if you believe it or not.
The information that the majority of LGBT are young, lower income, non-white tracks perfectly with the overall impression of the American public, that gays are mostly white, educated, upper-income, the group that controls PR for the gay community, and recruitment.
Recruitment? You've gotta be kidding me. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.
Hence the difference between older and younger generations. Tell enough kids that the awkwardness they feel as teens means that they are gay, and you will recruit a small percentage to believe it.
You are free to get married.... just pay the sin taxes for it....like smokers and drinkers
LGBT......all put together 3.4% of population ...... shouldn't have any rights.
That statement scares me. It is a dangerous precedent to deny any group its rights. Who would you go after next, cause it wouldnt stop with the LGBT community. Maybe you would attack race or even us autistics just for being different. We need to accept each other, not divide ourselves.
can you define what a sin is ?? and leave the bible out of it .
The amount of bigotry and ignorance espoused on this thread is appalling. These are people, Americans from all walks of life, you're spewing hate about. Our country was founded on principles of liberty and equality under the law, but to many of the people on this site that only applies to certain favored classes of people. I find it ironic, and deeply troubling, that the very people who most lionize the founders of this country are the ones who are first to abandon those principles when their sensibilities are offended. Keep your god out of my government, and keep your bigotry to yourself.
God was in the government when it was created, so was the idea of morality. The less God we have had in government over the last 30 years, the less morality. Athiest's want to totally block religious conviction from government. but the convictions of the religious is what makes Democratic government honest.
Then why do 'religious' republicans lie just as often as 'atheist' democrats
Obama claims to be religious but seldom attends church, and does not apply faith to his decisions . Many politicians claim conviction but obviously do not follow the tenants of their faith. If they did they might sometimes be wrong, but at least would be honest.
Whatever, you are just scared. Watching all those congretations slowly thinning out and more and more young people turning to Atheism. You will never understand why. Atheism is freedom.
Atheism, is the freedom to act without conscience; the ability to justify actions in a smaller context without guilt, man will degenerate 10,000 years without his conscience. Character is what you do when only God knows what you are doing.
I act with conscience. I am empathetic and have morals and believe in the good of humankind. I also do not believe in God. How can that be? By your theory I should be a ravenous immoral baby eater or something. You have a lot of learning to do – outside the Bible.
JustDad, sorry kid, your prejudices don't give you the right to make inaccurate and intellectually dishonest definitions.
I believe that the First Amendment rather contradicts your "god was always in the government" argument. Politicians obviously draw on their personal beliefs as part of how they perform their duties, but that doesn't mean that arguments based solely in the bible are valid political arguments. America is a country that is predominately Christian, but we are not a Christian nation. This country was founded on the principle of equality and liberty for all, and that is the single most important value a true American can hold
Thank you Ben. It's hard to believe people like this still exist. Listening to Satan? Go make a comment on a violent article, not one giving information about LGBT community.
Yep, since we have had less god, we have gotten rid of Jim Crow laws among many other things. God just apparently hates civil rights.
Minorities are without a majority of a voice, even though they have the clear majority in the gay community. I guess you can never get away from discrimination.
There is no freedom for a lifestyle that harms society.
It is time to create laws that prohibit h-o-m-o-s-e-x-u-a-l-i-t-y.
how does it harm society? if anything its people like you who hate which harms society.
I'm pretty sure he's kidding, but it's hard to pick up on tone on the web
Move to another suitable country that reflects your world view. I will be happy to pay for your one way ticket out of here. First stop Saudi Arabia.
I have never understood why women tend to love gay men and straight men tend to intensely dislike them- at least in some point of their lives. Yet, biologically speaking, if I wanted all the women to myself the first thing I would want is to make sure every other male was gay. Maybe it is just the rabid jealousy straight men feel toward gay men that women only like straight men but LOVE gay men especially after doing their hair or remodeling the kitchen.
But remember straight guys- the ladies make their hair pretty for you and get the kitchen remodeled so that they can feed your uncouth mouths even more. See, gay men are on your side regardless. Even if you don't need a clandestine release or something similar. Kissy kiss now. See feel better?
Dude, why do you think I got in to musical theater!
Given the difference between older population and younger, our culture is doing a much better job of teaching people to be gay. Way to go hollywood, you are proving the nurture side of the argument!
Then pray it away.
Liz, best reply ever!
I'm pretty sure this has been a consistent figure for at least 20 years. Much more realistic than the 10% that has been bandied about for awhile.
Because that is what makes this country what is. A country that is inclusive of every diverse group in its population. And id that isnt a good answer because this 3.4 percent of the population also pays taxes to our country like the rest of the 96.6 does. Hence we deserve the same treatment as the rest of u.
And we care about this small minority because?
We dont.. I didnt know anybody did, except Obama.. he needs that 3% because, the moral voters wont vote for him.
the same reason we care about the many other minorities in this country. we support diversity and the freedom that allows one to be different and but still have the rights of everyone else.
Joe – There’s a huge difference between supporting diversity (respecting differences, treating people with kindness and fairness) and shaking up all of society to accommodate what equates to a handful of people.
The way LGBT issues have dominated every aspect of society in recent years you’d think they made up at least 40% of the population. When I read this article I was not only surprised at the low percentage but also happy to learn it was so low. Yes, I said I was happy to hear the percentage of LGBT is very low.
Call me whatever you’d like but I’m happy about it because maybe now we’ll put things in their proper perspective. We need to start focusing our attention on things that actually matter and that affect larger groups of people. The entire remaining population of those that are not LGBT may not share my views on this subject but I’m willing to guess the percentage of them that do vastly outnumber the 3.4 % who self-identify as LGBT.
i agree 100 %
we will never know
Those numbers are actually pretty bad considering how often Cnn tries to advertise.
if its such a low number,which i highly doubt, why continue to shove it down our throats?
CNN makes it sound like you are more likely to be gay if you are young and uneducated. I think what they are showing here is more educated individuals are less likey to identify as Lgbt because they will be discriminated against. Our president has done nothing for the Lgbt community. Not surprising.
I felt the same way reading this article . It's appalling
LGBT identification is just another way to divide America - keep dividing! Divided we stand, united we fall ... good job!
id say it is making us aware, you know giving us facts? i dont see whats wrong with that.
Republicans are selling a bill of goods with bad math and belief in a patriarchical society. In return, you lose your wages, benefits and human rights.
8% unemployment, 23% in poverty, 35% no high education and 55% divorce rate!!! All these problems been solved and only the 3.4% LGBT is remaining! Although they have rights to shut and shush the other 96.4%!
Can anyone realize how low, silly and ignorant have we become?
"Shut and shush the rest of us"?
Huh? As in "why would they have this article, it's just more LGBT propoganda, there are other more important issues?"
Cause this and a Chris Kluwe article are the only CNN homepage articles on the subject, and the Chris one isn't even there anymore. If you don't find articles about a marginalized group interesting or informative, don't read it. But yes, they are a small percentage of the population... so should we never run jewish articles, or articles about American Muslims, who combined, still amount to a smaller percentage of the population than gay individuals?
Should we only write articles if they directly concern, say, 10% of the population or more? Seriously, I'm not sure what the point of your message is, what exactly do you expect?
I love shoving that 55% divorce rate statistic when bigots try to talk about how gay people getting married goes against the 'sacred covenant of marriage'. Right... Looks like straight people got this marriage thing all figured out...
Its only 3%.. insignificant.. Why bother.. lets just move on and get this country going again..
It's not insignificant to that 3%. And, you wouldn't call 3% insignificant if it were coming out your paycheck – I need look no further than these millionaire men on the hill freaking out over a 2% tax increase to know that.
You are confused.... Gays do not molest kids, your priest does that.
I am against gay and lesbians but I vote for Obama. The truth is all this 3.4% will vote for Obama.
I'm sure they don't like you either Mark.
Imagine that, a group of people voting for the person they feel will most fairly represent their demographic on matters that are important to them. Crazy stuff.
Log Cabin Republicans, look them up..
We vote for the least worst candidate, not the best candidate. Obama may not have done a lot for the LGBT community but it's better than a Mormon trying to undo all the hard work the LGBT community has done in order to receive the same basic rights that straight people do.
Amazing how such a tiny percentage of people can have so much power and media coverage. What a joke. I was someone who answered this survey. I'm a straight black male, and I told them I was white and gay. They bought it. Polls are stupid.
Kinda like how the blacks got all that media attention in the 60's. I mean, they're only 10% of the population! Why do they need rights? There are way more white people, so I don't understand why the blacks wanted to be treated like human beings. Quit being who you are and demanding equal treatment unless you can be just like the majority of this country. It's not like this country was built on diversity or anything. Jeesh!
you cant compare what blacks have been thru vs gay and lesbians thru out history. and i would
approve marriage between gays, i could care less.
I was comparing the two groups. They are both minority populations who have had their rights restricted because of who they were. That was the comparison.
I didn't post my comment to debate to what degree a particular population has been persecuted compared to another. I posted my comment to vent my frustration at a large, bigoted segment of the population who talk about the LGBT movement being 'too loud' in relation to their percentage of the population. Of course they're going to be loud. You'd be loud too if you wanted to, for example, marry somebody and was told you couldn't because it didn't fit 51% of the population's definition of marriage. Tell me if I'm crazy, but I think marriage is a personal choice – not something that should be at the whims of those who already biased against me because of my life choices.
I'm speaking hypothetically, as a straight man who couldn't care less if two men or two women wanted to express their love through a ceremony that they should damn well be able to call what they please.
Did you have one of them free Obama phones? Or did you steal it?
I live in Canada which is a much more tolerant society and am baffled as to WHY Americans must label everyone and everything. People are people, so who CARES if they're gay, lesbian, or whatever. They pay their taxes and support the economy just like EVERY ONE ELSE.
With everything else the U.S.A. is guilty of, who really CARES about the percentage of the LGBT population?
Individuals who believe that if the population is small enough, it's perfectly fine to limit equal rights are among the people who care about the percentage. If it was a large swath of the population then people might actually have to pay attention, because heaven forbid we allow equal rights on the principle of freedom and equality for all.
That is true, when I moved to USA and started applying for jobs, I got impressed that one of the questions was your skin color!!! And more confusing yet, next to "white" in parenthesis "don't mark if Hispanic/Latino". Soon when you apply for a job you will be asked if you are LGBT. The white straight Americans soon will not have jobs available for them.
"ERMAGERD, TEH GAYS ARE ONLY 3.4% OF THE POPULATION, AND YET SOMEHOW THEY'RE TAKING ALL TEH JOBS!" Brought to you by the same 3.4% of the population with deep-seated prejudices against anyone Diff'ernt from themselves.
A lot of me think they are straight even if they've done it with another man as long as they were the giver and not the receiver. A study with a lie detector test is the only legitimate one.
We should be advocating for these people. They are who they are...as you are who you are....We are all people, Americans, Gods or the Universe's children. It is not wrong. It just is.....and it is a shame people don't stick up for these folks, along with the disabled, mentally ill, an albino, someone with crooked teeth. The problem is with the ignorant that don't realize when you are an adult, consenting adults can have any relationship they choose. Truly, society suffers when, it's not consenting or when people who have no business getting in others business do. Acting like they are perfect. give me a break.
And darwin wept
It's way higher than 3.4% when you take into account closeted LGBT people, especially in Red States where they're more likely to suppress or hide it. The 6.4% for young people is closer to accurate, but still off.
With only 34% of the population voting in a Presidential election, the committed Democrat LBGT vote is rather significant. Just another reason why Obama will get a second term.
USA is already very tolerant of:
– fornication (highest out-of wedlock births in the world)
– divorce (50 percent of marriages end in divorce).
– p0rn (USA is highest adult movie making country in the world)
Now, what's LGBT really to add to this list in this hypocritical country?
The number is probably much lower than that.
I tend to agree. I can't tell you how many people I went to college with who claimed to be gay yet they ended up getting married and having 3 or 4 kids. I see it all the time. I think some people (not all, so don't jump all over me) claim to be gay just for attention or to be different. Can you "grow out" of being gay? I don't know, but apparently some people can and do.
Once gay always gay.
LOL! It's hard to argue with that, Bob. I'm just saying these people *claimed* to be gay. I have no idea what they did behind closed doors. Like I said, I think some people say they're gay just for attention or sympathy. I'm not an expert and don't claim to be. I'm just telling you what I see and hear.
Maybe they thought they were gay, tried it, and decided they didn't like it. LOL!
The number just seems lower to you because gay people don't let you know they're gay so you won't hit on them.
Republicans want a big government that can tell you who you can marry. Government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all. Republicans won't be happy until you have to marry who your parents tell you to like some third world country.
You are wrong about one thing, if not more. I don't think republicans want a big government. It is contrary to their stated beliefs.
Johnny, it is not contrary to their actions whenever they come into power.
Be quiet, youre saying STUP!D things AGAIN...
Better to be a pervert than a republican.
What would be more interesting, yet, would be the percentage of perverts in the republican party vs. democratic. Pretty sure you'd see the majority of them fall on the side of the repub party.
"I would say the figure is skewed by the fact that some percentage of LGBT folks don't want to identify themselves"
Face the fact that not as many are deviant as you'd like.
"the highest percentages of LGBT identification occurred among non-white, younger and less educated Americans."
I'm just tickled by that. We all know how fond gays and liberals are of referring to Christians as less educated because they believe.
All this means is that the white-educated males are not coming out of the closet.
Exactly. With the bigots pouring out of the woodwork, can't say I blame them.
I am ashamed of the Democratic Party playing into this game and reaching out to these sinners. Accepting these sinners only for their votes. It was said that this country will fall from within. Obama and to my astonsishment Vice President Biden will accept this in our country. May God have mercy on their Souls. As it is my opinion our country will be even more weakened and hated by others by the current Governments stance. Between this debacle and voting down the ID law for this ellection leaves this country open for even more torrid advancement of death from within. Wake up America!
Sorry kid, your paranoia and bigorty makes for a poor argument.
God never said He was fair, he said he was JUST, that means He follows HIS law and HIS law does not accept GAYS.
Yeah because god is offended at treating people as equals, when he wasn't bothered with all that whole Manifest Destiny/genocide, slavery, spitting on black school children, and lynching people stuff. It's love that really tees off your god.
Jesus, is that you again?
Well, I see the Westboro Baptist Church has arrived. What? No soldiers funerals to protest tonight?
Why is so much attention given to 3.4 % of the population?
Why is so much given to republicans? They have about 1% of the national IQ.
The Repubs must be more intelligent than you think, because they are known as the "evil rich white people".
The Ryan choice is EXCELLENT
Ryan has the courage to challenge Big socialist government programs like Social Security and Medicare.
Politicians have been deathly afraid to challenge senior citizens on Social Security and Medicare because they are such a powerful voting block
But Senior Citizens have been feeding at the government trough for too long.
It's time Seniors learned that nothing is "Free" and that WELFARE FOR THE ELDERLY is no different from welfare for the poor.
American seniors are just going to have to learn to save their money and rely on themselves in their old age.
NO MORE GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS TO SENIORS
It's time to end the two biggest socialist programs in the federal government....MEDICARE and SOCIAL SECURITY.
And the Romney/Ryan team is the ones to do it.
You are going to pay your way now old people, no more free lunch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Wait until you're a senior and I guarantee that mentality will change quick.
Oh so you didn't realize that social security was taken from their paychecks all their lives, huh? Anything else that's clueless that you want to say?
1. He fires people, lays off employees, and outsources jobs while pocketing the pension funds of those same employees.
2. He is comfortable in an upper class setting. After all, America IS the upper class, isn't it? The little people, like you and I, are not really very important. People of Romney's class and background see us as livestock that can understand English.
3. He does not care if Americans suffer. He has made lots of them suffer so far in his life. He's made of tough stuff. No weepy compassion will ever cloud his judgment.
4. He knows how to destroy corporations and sell off their assets. He could use those skills to destroy the federal government, a stated goal of Conservatism
5. After the Romney Administration is over in 2016 or 2018, Conservatives will say, "Hey, you can't blame us for the disastrous Romney Administration. He wasn't a TRUE Conservative. What we need is a TRUE Conservative like Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum … or maybe govornor Palin."So the
Your public crying is really embarrasing. Now put away the laptop, get out of bed, and try supporting yourself for a change. Your parents want their basement back.
Why would a man want to sleep with a John Madden instead of a Mila Kunis? Sick
I'm a gay man, and I would rather sleep with Mila Kunis than John Madden. That's kind of like being asked... would you rather sleep with Ryan Reynolds or Gina Rinehart with a yeast infection.
Haha incredible. Just incredible
God forgives you.
No one wants to sleep with John Madden don't be ridiculous
You tell us.
Why would a man want to sleep with a Whoopi Goldberg than a Ryan Gosling?
Sad that such a small number of people are trying to change everyone's thinking to match their own...
Always wondered about that. How does such a small population manage to garner so much media attention? Well it probably has to do with a high representation in the entertainment industry. I've always thought the issue was blown out of proportion.
3.4% ......and the other 96.6% spend 100% of our time putting up with their sickness.
Yea, that whole equality and freedom thing is just too radical for straights.
If this is genetic, won't the numbers decline? It would be a non-reproducible genotype.
But clearly straight people have gay children...
So it is a random mutation? Not very evolutionary. Not consistent with genetics.
Actually Straight people have straight children, sometimes those children choose a different lifestyle and try to justify it with some made up scientific explanation that is false. God didnt make us this way... He made us in HIS image and HE is not gay.
Genetic, LOL! If it were genetic then ex-gays would not exist and there are many of them...
Actually every single one of the ex-gay movement founders went back to being gay.
Genetic? lol, no, most are that way because they are either abused (esp. African Americans) or become emotionally attached to someone of the same gender (esp. women) and that emotional bond leads to...
Oh wow, I didn't realize you had internet all the way back in the 1950s
Being gay is a gift from God. There's no other explanation. Scientists have tried to figure out what causes someone to be gay for decades, and there is no answer. God simply wants to see how his other subjects will treat his creations that are different.
h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_ls are trying to deceive the public into thinking that h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_lity
which harms marriage, family and society is a civil right. People who understand
that h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_l relationships are dangerous have every right to discourage
h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_lity and anything that encourages h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_lity like h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_l
marriage. Nothing will ever allow h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_lity to be a protected civil right
because h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_lity harms marriage, family and society.
h_o_m_o_s_e_x_u_a_l_i_t_y harms marriage, family and society
What examples do you have for that ignorant, prejudiced statement?
You posted a very sick statement. You should get help quick!
So how about divorce, teenage pregnancies, p0rn etc that are very popular among chrisitans?
The same Gallup Poll also gave Romney a 7% lead over Obama. Its kind of dumb to try to extrapolate the response of 300 million people from 500,000 answers.
3.4%? That's bs...more like 34%.
That means at least 3.4% of the population is screwed up.
They don't count all those guys who "experimented" in their college years. I think nearly half of all men have a "gay experience" by the time they are 25.
by how CNN talks about this subject you'd think it was 34%.
Whether its 5% or 35% isn't the issue, even if its about 4% that's roughly about 15 million Americans. 15 million people matter.
If 6.4% of 18-29 consider themselves gay, that's closest to the real figure. In a few decades when people will find it easier to answer such questions, the figure might be somewhere close to 10%.
Whatever you do, don't believe the data. It doesn't fit with your narrative. Silly liberals.
"3.4% of all Americans identified themselves as part of the LGBT community."
Falae. Nit-picking? Maybe; however, ridiculous errors = no credibility.
Ted, I imagine you are the LAST person to make claims about what teenagers think is "hip."
This pole is SOOOO WRONG! There are a lot more people then 3.4%!!! MOST ARE Down low! They need to put it on the census next time that will give you a clue. Its more like 6-10% by far!
I don't think that people who hind themselves from a phone survey would be any more likely to out themselves to the government survey. I know I wouldn't.
Who wants to be on the government list of LGBT people on the outside chance that the religious right gain full control of my country and start to persecute us the way they always have wanted to? Think about the crazy southern pastor a few months back that wants to put us all in a giant fenced in area so we can all "die out"?
There seems to be some confusion in the comments about the meaning of population statistics. 3.4% of a population is very large number. It means about 1 in 30 people, or slightly lower than 1 person per average high school classroom (depending on classroom size). For example, in a student body of 1000 students, 32 are expected to become LGBT–that's using the average of all people young and old and not the much higher average for young people alone.
For reference, the Asian population of the US estimated at "only" 5.0% for 2011, according to the US Census. This does mean Asians are a minority in the US. It does not mean they are a neglible population you are unlikely to encounter in real life. Also, in the US, LGBT people outnumber Native Americans by over 2.5 times.
So about 11 million american's are LGBT. Some cities, such as Minneapolis, have percentages over 10%. If I remember correctly, about 12 or 15% of the population in downtown Minneapolis is LGBT.
Karen T: "...expected to become GLBT"
Uhm, you don't become GLBT, you are born that way.
Oh Really? Please tell me in the human genome system, what is the specific marker or gene for LBGT?
You need to move that Decimal point over, it's 34%.
This article is very confusing at certain points – they say the highest percentage group self-identified as LGBT had the LOWEST level of education, but it's actually those with some college but not a degree, while those with a High School education or less came in 2nd at 3.5% compared to 4% with some college. Also those with post-graduate degees came in a close third at 3.2%. Am I missing something? Does the writer understand the use of the comparative LOWEST vs. HIGEST?? Lowest means nothing below that. If they used a qualifier and said AMONG the lowest, that would be more accurate.
Actually, to quote the article "[The] new survey showed LGBT identification is highest among Americans with the lowest levels of education." LEVELS not level.
Levels of education mentioned in this article in order from least to most education and their associated LGBT identifications percentages:
High School (or less): 3.5%
Some College: 4.0 %
College Degree: 2.8%
As you can see, the lowest two levels, note LEVELS (not "level"), in the education bracket have the highest percentage of LGBT identified individuals. I hope I clarified what you were missing.
Omg. We have completely forgotten the definition of "lowest" and "lower!" The author of the article should have said "lower levels." There can, by definition, only 1 "lowest" level. It's a superlative. Makes me crazy. Oh I'm gay.
3.5% have a high school education or less
0.5% have some college, but no degree. Combined with those with less education, that's 4%.
2.8% have a college degree
3.2% have a post-grad education (i.e. taken Master's level courses or higher – could have a Master or PhD degree)
4% have some college and no degree
3.5 % have high school or less.
to more accurately word it
3.5% of those will HS education or less identify as LGBT
4.0% of those with some college education identify as LGBT.
please read the article. they are different brackets.
Even one is too many.
Wow, if one is too many, than the fact that there are millions must really make your life a living hell.
Sucks to be you.
What an interesting choice of words. Coincidentally, when a ship carrying Jewish refugees in the 1930's tried to bring them to safety in North America the same words were uttered by anti semites. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
People who choose to engage in "home oh sect you all" acts are NOT equivalent to people born Askenaze.
Thankfully theres only one of you "Dave"
I love the way libs make everything into "hate" or feel like their only argument can be made through name-calling, insults, threats, and intimidation. Remember, to a lib tolerance is a one way street. Think as they do or be prepared to face the full fury of never-ending vilification. They'll keep at you until you just say it isn't worth trying to get them to make sense and just give up. Because we really don't care. It's just so much fun to see the libs wallow in shyte. HAHAHAHA
Yeah because hurling insults and laughing hysterically really validated your argument.
What the giddyup poll forgot to show was statistics between the US and other countries. Im sure those numbers will shine a lot on our culture.
I like the renaming to GBLT. mmmmmm bacon! And can somebody please explain the difference between being a person of color and a fanny pirate. It's pretty offensive to hear them bunched together.
39% of Americans call themselves "Independent"?? Then why on earth are we still trying to pick between these 2 pitiful candidates??? :-/
I think "independent" is shorthand for "none of your business," as often as not.
We need a strong independent candidate, maybe next election
All of this is a result of the failed social experiment called the 60's. We won't get right again until the pathetic, American-hating, old hippies are gone. Won't be long.
I still fail to understand how anyone LGBT can identifiy themselves as republican - a party that has consistently from Reagan on down demonized gay people and have fought against gay rights in virtually every platform in every state. The 13% number astounds me. Why should anyone vote for a party platform continuously refuses to accept your existance and trys everythign they can to marginallize your existance? Amazing. You may not agree wtih everything the democratic party has done (who does?) but at least they have publically come out to fight for our rights in the military, marriage, anti-discrimination legislation etc. I've personally never understood the Log Cabin Club - liberal republicans are extinct, and moderates almost. why keep trying to participate in party that doesn't want you around instead of join the democrates and become fiscal conservative democrats and push for financial change?
Ignore polar bear. I find that people who readily resort to "limited intellect" personal attacks themselves are the ones with limited intellect, too stupid to realize it. Anyway, there are plenty of self-hating gays out there. I've never seen a log cabin republican who is truthful with themselves. They'll even delusion themselves into believing that its the democrats and liberals who are responsible for the discrimination. They're just lost – deluded. Every group has a few.
Because Conservatism, at its core, believes in a government which intrudes into the lives of its citizens to the smallest degree possible. Sadly, that view – shared by the father of modern Conservatism, Barry Goldwater, who was also a strong, vocal supporter of gay rights – has been slapped aside by the religious bigots who have overrun the movement, subsumed its popularity and replaced nearly everything it stands for with hatred and intolerance.
Maybe they care more about economy for example than other issues. Most possible those are kind of wealthy guys, or own a business.
I know...it's like chickens voting for colonel sanders. It makes no sense.
Should 2 gay consenting incestual adults be allowed to marry? 2 brothers? Uncle-nephew? Father-son? grand-father and grandson? If they're 2 consenting adults, I don't see what the big deal is.
Personally I wouldn't care who gets married. I'm sure there are relatives that have gotten married. They just get married in a different state. IT HAS NO INFLUENCE ON MY MARRIAGE.
Why not? It works for most of the straight South.
3.4% of the population, 50% of the noise. So desperate to force people to accept them to justify their "lifestyle." Pathelogical.
Agree completely. It's such a tiny group but they are making too much noise, not adequate level of noise ... disturbing others.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO END ANYTIME SOON! LET THE NOISE, CONTINUE! My partner and I have been together for 54 years. I'm so glad we lived long enough to see change. I am 78 years old and a proud lesbian.
Dorothy: Stay at home and make all the noise you and your partner wish. Just don't disturb the neighbors. Just remember that God does not nor ever did condone your lifestyle but hey... It was your life and you and your partner's choice. God will have the final say come judgement day.
@Polar bear I hope you're in a situation where you are in the minority. I bet you wont feel the same way
So true on the point!! Just shows how silly our society been thinking, like we solved every single problem but those guys!!
Are you a Bi Polar Bear?
LOL. Straights make noise 100% of the time, 24-7. They leave no room for gays to "make noise." Excuse them if they have to elbow some room for themselves from time to time.
As LGBT becomes more and more socially acceptable in the USA, this number will get higher and higher. The real number is probably no less than 10%. Most career women are men haters and they love other women instead.
LOL your comment about "career women" is so not true, a career woman doesn't hate men, they try to look as stronger or more, as a man, or some of them feel intimidated by men...AT WORK.
I don't think there is more gays than what the poll is showing, I met very few gay people, even 3.4% sounds like a big number to me.
My guess, Anne, is that most LBGT people figure people like you out pretty quickly and steer clear. Most of the LBGT people I know tend to keep that fact to themselves in face of bigots.
Lol, go ahead and have marriage. Most men I know are giving up on that idea. It just leads to divorce, then giving up half or more of everything you ever earned in your life. God forbid you had kids, that just makes you a sperm donor and walking atm in the courts eyes. Go ahead, take it.
But women want equal pay, want men to work for them, but the courts dont even pay attention to a mans feelings for his kids, only thing they want is to take his money so he cant afford to live himself. Always thought it took 2 to make a baby.............
And how our government ,courts and politicians cater to this 3.4%. I guess the perfect American is now an LGBT individual ,unemployed, on food stamps, on Medicaid and having a free cell phone. Being an illegal alien would add to the perfection.
I love how you frame the struggle for equality as being "catering to" the oppressed minority in question. As though we "catered to" African Americans by letting them send their kids to the same schools our kids went to.
We learn nothing.
There is no scientific proof whatsoever of this "born that way" nonsense. African Americans are born that way. People that choose to engage in "home oh sect you all" acts are not. That is the science. Deal with it. Identify the genes in your response or don't bother.
It was much better back when our government only catered to white males who owned property. Right?
That's not what the article says....
If accurate, would this poll mean that there are 30 times as many straight people in the US as LGBT?
Fecal matter between the teeth. What a wonderful life.
Don't laugh. This 3.4% could win the election for President Obama.
Not unless they all live in either FL, OH and VA. Irreverent, just like my requests for better selection of left handed sporting goods, I hear ya man, sucks to be a minority and have so much given to you, but still wanting more.
just like racism, it's tyranny of the majority. minority will succeed, but suffering a long time.
remember, jesus was gay when he came here the first time. That's why the pope, bishops and cardinal all wear dresses. They're getting ready for his second cu-mming.
Jesus, if we let the rejects get married will they stop marching thru streets like its 1969? My lord NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU! you waste legal and judicial time on your crap, im tired of hearing it. Something tells me that nothing will change even if your allowed to marry. Your only 3.4% of the population, yet you take up significant time of local and national attention with your b.s. Shut up!!!
but jesus would be marching with them,, No doubt, you hate jesus.
So few and yet so much noise. I agree Mick, there are other minorities that get MUCH less publicity and do a lot less whining. I'm left handed, what about my plight; you know how hard it is to find a good selection of left handed sporting goods?
Your plight as a left-handed individual compares nothing to what the LGBT community continues to endure. No one has threatened to kill you, Sandy, or deny you rights because of your "lefthandedness". Agree with Mr. Margo-your comment hardly demonstrates what you think it does. If your plight of finding lefthanded sporting equipment is as unjust as you say it is, speak up and make some noise! Tell someone and perhaps you too will live a much happier and fulfilling life.
I think Sandy was being sarcastic. (Equality for All) Love them gays!
I fail to see why you focus on the percentage – even when the number is, say, 47%, conservatives still don't consider that a big enough number to get them to care.
The truly funny thing about conservatives is that they apparently want others to believe that they'd be so much more open to gay people....if there were just more of them!
If all the gays are wealthy, live in nice neighborhoods, and drive nice cars, what are they complaining about?
Anna, People like you are the one making them feel they are 50% of the population. One thing is been respectful no matter what others believe and a different one accepts them, defend them or promote them
Given all of the negative comments here, it is easy to understand why those in the LGBT Community are reluctant to "come out." And those with higher levels of income likely fear that they have more to lose.
If you took a guess at the number of those over 18 in the US, that might be 5-7 million people. Not that small of number. If you think that is too small to have any political power, then they are also "small enough" to be left alone and to be able to love or marry who they want.
When you add up every group the Republicans hate, you realize they actually hate most people in the world. Republicans are pathetic people.
Don't forget, throughout history, more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else.
Stalin and mao did not kill for religion, they killed for politica.
I say we round up all of these sicko's and send them to Kenya along with Obama.
The 'New Normal', 96 percent of the world is not LGBT!!!!! But, even if we are not 'Gay', we are 'Happy' to be here!
Let's pretend they are all normal! :-)
It's easier than trying to pretend *you're* normal.
With such a small percentage, why does anyone bother to listen to them?? Oh ya it's election time !! Anything to get the vote seen 50 years of exactly the same BS and it is amazing that people still think the government cares about WE THE PEOPLE ! People should be rioting in the street after the banking cartel took over the government, but hey you can't fix stupid !!
BoBo is trolling for each and every vote it can get. Even from Chicago graveyards ;)
Funny, you say people should be rioting instead of being here....yet you are here, and you aren't rioting. Guess you didn't really think people should be doing it after all, did you?
Why, you're absolutely right! There's no reason the majority should have to worry about the rights of small minority!
The fact you think we should ignore people because they are a small minority shows how bigoted you are.
Gay marriage will be legal in the whole US within the next 5 to 10 years. All of these courts are striking down DOMA. As soon as the Supreme court strikes it down, it becomes legal in the US and state laws are wiped out. The same thing happened with interracial marriage. It was left to the states to decide. After Loving vs Virginia, the supreme court stuck down state laws and interracial marriage we legal everywhere. Do the research. History is happening right now, and there's nothing the "majority" can do about it. It's just beautiful!
Makes sense that its a low percentage. Out of the 300 friends I have (and KNOW) on Facebook, only about 5 or 6 are openly gay or obvious closet cases. That's even a lower percentage hat 3.4%
What about the ones you just don't know about?
Nasty...... keep your kids away from them and don't let them in your schools!
Too late. They are your kids teachers.
A good friend of mine is gay and is the principal of a junior high school here in my home town.
They are good for scientific experiments. How else would we know so much about HIV-AIDS?
What a cheery guy you are
Honestly, I had no idea there were that many abnormal, gross people out there!
Are you talking about people making hateful comments? You're right.
Given a choice, I'd rather be friends with the non haters.
Love isn't gross, hate is.
Have you been to a McDonalds?
If you have Y chromosomes, keep your equipment away from other Y chromosomes... there is no excuse for confusion here.
Tell it to the Creator.
Ask a million gay people when they turned gay and most will tell you that they were born gay. They were gay for as far back as they can possibly remember. They were always gay and always will be gay. They dream about the same gender. They always have. We don't choose our dreams and we can't rewrite the narrative of our dreams. Gay is as much a part of them as their eye color.
Or you could mind your own business and let consenting adults do that they like. :)
Guess we can FINALLY put that idiotic and statistically flwed 10% study in the garbage where it always belonged.
Wonder how many of those 3.4% have behavioral, emotional, or deep seated psychological problems?
It is a wonder any gay child makes it out of 10th grade psychologically intact. With all of the hell that we put them through.
Gee, I wonder
The study that said 10% was debunked nearly twenty years ago.
Figures don’t lie, but liars figure’
Oh, by all means!
3.4% seems high. We should stop AIDS research.
... and dopers.
I can't believe in 2012 people are still so f-- stoopid as to think "only gay people get HIV/AIDS." I suppose the millions dying in Sub-Saharan Africa count for nothing... wait, I think I already know the answer to that...
Actually, gays are much more intelligent than straigt guys. And the gays I know have high-end cars, big houses, travel all the time, and really good jobs. I wish I could marry one of them! They are so much more stable than any of the straight guys I know.
What you describe doesn't sound like a population that's being heavily discriminated against. Why are they making so much noise if they're already so much better off than the general populaiton?
How many years of college did it take you to learn to spread manure?
In the Canadian national census, where you remain anonymous, the number was 1.5%. This information was quickly buried and ignored.
That's about right. That's what Kinsey reported.
1.7% is probably the number of closeted gay men in the D.C. area alone.
That might be right for closeted republican senators.
Like the fat people, they were born that way and can't do much about it. They know it's a serious defect, but pretend it's not. It's very unhealthy, and it's killing them.And everybody around them cringes, but preteds likey they are "normal". shall I go on?
I'm guessing that some of them just have an aversion to exercise and a love of chocolate cake, but until all of science comes rising over the mountain concerning all fat people and all gay people I for one will keep an open mind.
Believe me, it is higher than 3.4%. I know 3 guys that are married to women but are having affairs with other men, who are actually married to women as well. They will never come out because of their religion. Kind of sad that they have to pretend to be something else just because of society.
If you could actually count the "B" in LGBT it would probably be closer to 40% of the population...
There is much truth in that! I agree.
It's very likely not higher than 3.4%. Anthropologists have estimated a consistent 2-3% of the human population has been for throughout history. So this survey is consistent with what they've know for decades already. Nothing new here. However, your anecdotal evidence and your believing it more accurate than a methodical survey indicates you are desperately seeking approval and comfort in numbers. Why not just be who you are and not worry about the rest of us?
Do you have a link to the report. I'm not doubting you, I'd like to read it.
How could we possibly know the numbers during antiquity when we can't really put a finger on the numbers today. We are more educated today than we have ever been.
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