November 29th, 2011
02:04 PM ET

Family says undocumented student killed himself over fears he'd never go to college

By Rafael Romo, Senior Latin American Affairs Editor

(CNN) - Joaquin Luna was only 18. The senior at Juarez Lincoln High School in Mission, Texas, dreamed of going to college. But since he was in the country illegally, that was nearly impossible.

Luna was quickly losing hope of ever going to college, his family says. The Friday after Thanksgiving, Luna put on a suit, kissed his family members, went into the bathroom and shot himself in the head, according to family members.

"He didn't see no other way or no other option," his brother Diyra Mendoza told CNN affiliate KGBT.

Mendoza found the body after hearing the gunshot.

"As soon as I pulled him out to the kitchen, I could see the bullet hole and there was no movement, no signs of anything," Mendoza said. "He was gone."

Mendoza says the letters his brother left behind reveal his fears about being in the country illegally. He also was frustrated because the DREAM Act - an initiative that would legalize young immigrants who have been in the country for more than five years if they attend college or serve in the military - never passed.

It's estimated that the DREAM Act would benefit about 2 million young people. It failed by five votes in the Senate last December. A new push by Democrats in Congress this year also didn't go far.

Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, a Democrat, who has been pushing for the measure for a decade, testified at a congressional hearing in June. "The Dream Act would make America a stronger country by giving these talented immigrants the chance to fulfill their potential." Durbin said.

But Republican lawmakers call the bill "blanket amnesty" and have strongly opposed it. Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican, calls it "a band-aid and maybe worse, it would provide an incentive for future illegal immigration."

The DREAM Act was also a hot-potato issue in the November 22 CNN debate of Republican presidential candidates. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich spoke in favor of the DREAM Act. "I don't see any reason to punish somebody who came here at 3 years of age, but who wants to serve the United States of America," Gingrich said.

Mitt Romney agreed with Gingrich saying the he "would staple a green card to the diploma of anybody who's got a degree of math, science, master's degree, Ph.D. We want those brains in our country."

But Michele Bachmann denounced it, warning the measure would "offer taxpayer-subsidized benefits to illegal aliens. We need to move away from magnets not offer more."

Back in Texas, Mendoza is thinking of other young immigrants like his brother. "It's like all these kids that are here. They're all dependent on that DREAM Act to keep on studying," Mendoza said.

But with a Congress unable to reach a compromise to reduce the deficit and presidential elections less than a year away, the chances of any immigration bill being passed seem unlikely.

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  1. HDTrailer Abraham Lincoln Vampirjäger

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    April 3, 2012 at 2:40 am | Report abuse |
  2. Sarah

    When did this happen ?

    December 15, 2011 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Banny Mellweather

    As an illegal he may have been able to attend West Valley-Mission Community College District – It does ask for citizenship status on the application but I can imagine there would have been a way of dodging it

    December 14, 2011 at 2:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Piano

      a corpes can only attend one class in college, anatomie, and only once.

      December 14, 2011 at 2:12 am | Report abuse |
  4. Mr. Zippy

    I feel sorry for the kid, he made a bad decision. But the fact is that he could have gone to college even as an illegal. The DREAM act and all such pandering garbage merely allows illegals' tuition to be reduced from out-of-state to in-state. It's just dollars and cents.

    December 9, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Sheryl

    As a mother of two young men, I feel terribly for this boy and his family. It is awfully tragic and painful. However, suicide is complex. One's decision to end his/her own life is typcially not for one particular reason. Wrestling with the decision is a result of culminating, external factors coupled with deep seated internal factors like mental health and stability. One cannot blame one external circumstance; clearly this young man had some other things going on that brewed inside him.

    December 8, 2011 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Orville

    Well this ought to bring a smile to many of your racist faces.

    December 5, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • davy

      It will make everything much easier if we all remember a very simple definition of what is "racist": Racist means anything that any minority person dislikes for any reason. Once we all accept that reality, we can get past it.

      December 5, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • wmurderface

      Mexican is NOT a race

      December 8, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris L.

        What, are you saying it's a smell or something? How rude.

        December 9, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
  7. JEN


    December 5, 2011 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michael

      Jen, I hope you don't have children because typing in all caps and grammatically wrong, must mean you don't have an education. If you don't have an education, how can anyone expect that you will be able to raise your children and provide them with an adequate education? Birds of a feather flock together....

      It's sad that this young man felt so bad about his future that he decided to kill himself. It looks like he had, perhaps, everything else going for him. My empathy goes out to the family of this young man. My anger goes out to the trolls posting on this forum!

      December 5, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • davy

        It is sad that idiots like you actually believe that Joaquin killed himself over not going to college.

        December 5, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
  8. kevin

    amazing how this article suggests that the government is responsible for this young mans death. People are responsible for their own lives and well being. We are a nation of laws. His parents did not obey those laws. Having said that, I do not see why this young man could not go to college, either here or his home country. That a student would not qualify for financial aid does not mean that he cannot attend college. It merely means that more student loans will have to be taken out instead of government aid. Millions of modest incmoe Americans do not qualify for direct aid, yet pursue their dreams of higher education.

    December 5, 2011 at 6:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Colleen

      You can't get a bank loan without a social security number. If his family had the cash to pay for him to go to college out of pocket they would have immigrated legally here.

      December 5, 2011 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
      • davy

        boo hoo hoo What are we, the dumping ground for the world?

        December 5, 2011 at 11:41 am | Report abuse |
  9. TheMayQueen

    Unfortunately, there was something really wrong with this kid well above and well beyond anything to do with immigration and college. He must have had some sort of major emotional/psychological issues or even mental illness. His worrying about his immigration status and college status was just the "flavor" the issues took on.

    December 4, 2011 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Louie-Louie

    Can't keep blaming this country for all their problems. Blame the parents.

    December 4, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Maria

    Why this kid had a gun? why ? send all those illegals home .....he probably had bad grades and now is blaming the system and how come the parents are legal and not him? they should started his Citizenship papers.....I think all this is just a excuse from him and from his family! the kid had mental illness!

    December 4, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Maria

    That is PREPOSTEROUS,on more excuse to blame this Country that give them so much , this sis the only Country at the world who welcome illegals ,take care of them ,you go to Mexico or other South America Countries and they WILL deport you! this people came here illegals use and abuse the systme and blame the Country it is OUTRAGEOUS ,how may illegal students are in america? graduating from College? that is all BALONEY! This Country is full of illegals ,this people has a LAME excuse and if they dislike this Country they should back to their farms were they belong!

    December 4, 2011 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • geronimo

      im navajo this kid is legal the only illegal are the white man

      December 4, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Harry

        That's right! The white man is the interloper! "Here native peoples of the Americas, take this nice (small pox impregnated) warm woolen blanket. It will be your friend when winter comes (they will all be dead.)

        December 4, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rhubarbarian

      Aren't you that lady who gave the rant on the London subway?

      December 4, 2011 at 8:50 pm | Report abuse |
  13. barbara

    This is leftist propaganda. This young man did not commiit suicide for the reasons stated above. His letters contained no mention of his concern over the dream act not passing. Shame on you CNN. I'm so sick of your bias reporting.

    December 2, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • PC no more!

      I feel the same way about CNN!

      December 2, 2011 at 10:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Harry

        If you don't like CNN why do you watch or read it?

        December 3, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • leftistpropagandalol

      How do you know this? Have you read the note? Do you have a source that says otherwise?
      No you do not, get over your self.

      December 2, 2011 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Wild Rover


        There's your proof. Pretty disgusting when somebody's death is exploited to further a political agenda.

        December 5, 2011 at 3:08 am | Report abuse |
      • davy

        Thank you Wild Rover, I agree with you. Some people will lower themselfs to any level for their cause.

        December 5, 2011 at 4:49 am | Report abuse |
    • TexDoc

      Wasn't Rick Perry just beaten up by the Republican candidates for allowing illegals in state tuition costs? Now he's responsible for not allowing him to go to college? Which is it?

      December 19, 2011 at 9:52 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Kani

    Now he REALLY can't go to college...

    December 2, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Malick Shabazz

    The loss is tragic, but it's hard to feel sorry for the plight of illegals when there are so many who come to this country the right way each and every year.

    Plus, Mexicans fleeing thier home country live a life of luxury and security compared to those living in Sudan, etc. What makes Mexicans more deserving of citizenship than everyone else?

    December 2, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Bob

    ILLEGALS, especially Hispanic ones, not only CAN go to college in this country they get in state tuition in many states as well. On the Texas border PUBLIC SCHOOL BUSES pick up MEXICAN KIDS WHO LIVE IN MEXICO & take them to OUR TAXPAYER FUNDED PUBLIC SCHOOLS. These kids get "FREE" breakfast & lunch & then are dropped off on the border & go back to their Mexican homes. IF this kid had wanted to go to college he would have had NO PROBLEM doing so. His death is just being EXPLOITED by his family, who WILL get MONEY out of this, & the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ADVOCATES which is beyond disgusting!

    December 2, 2011 at 5:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Jennifer

      A sad story but he should have been in Mexico, not here. I believe this boy had other troubles and the family is using it for propaganda.. In South Texas, the teachers teach these illegal kids the MEXICAN pledge of allegiance to the Mexican flag, in SPANISH only. They have non-English speaking teachers we are paying for. A lot of the Mexicans I know have told me that the western states.. Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, California and even Colorado belong to them...that we stole it and they hate us for it. Of course, they don't see that it would all look like Mexico if it belonged to them...poverty and drugs. They say they are taking it back and our own government is helping them do it. Not just the illegals feel this way. I know a Hispanic doctor that feels this way even though he was born here.

      December 2, 2011 at 8:27 am | Report abuse |
      • william

        Yep I hear the same thing about us stealing land from Mexico. Which is so stupid. Of course it was their land but during wars we took it. Now if you look Mexico as well as many other countries obtain land in the same way and never give it back. We went as far as paying for the land which no other country does. So I think we were very fair in my opinion. And as you stated if they did have the land it would be destroyed and they would still be sneaking into the country. As for the pledge to the mexican flag. Wow I didnt know that. Thats a disgrace and all those teachers should be fired. Its one thing to be taught about the country you are from. But they are in USA and should be pledging to our flag. Or go home.

        December 2, 2011 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Jay

        This was a very cruel comment to make, you are the bigotry this country should be ashamed of. That comment was not necessary!!!

        December 2, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dondie

      I don't see how his parents will "get money" out of this. This boy didn't break the law. His parents did. The Republican party is just too rigid in everything they touch. Where do they get such black and white convictions with no shades of gray? The Republican party has pulled out all of the stops to demonize gay Americans, thwart their lives and break their spirits, starting at the earliest age possible. They now have "others" on their radar and will stop at nothing to elevate themselves while crapping on anyone deemed "others". This rigidity leaves no room for altruism (much less Christianity).

      December 2, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  17. william

    I wanted to post this again for all the people who may not know. To read the full comment look below. First let me point out we have changed immigration laws at least 7 times starting around 1986.
    first was
    The Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA) 2.8 million illegals bam citizens (Reward for breaking the law)
    Next was
    Amnesty of 1994 over 550 thousand bam there it is again.
    next we have
    Extension Amnesty of 1997 this was an extension of the 94 amnesty
    then there was
    The Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty of 1997 Another 1 million illegals
    Oh Nicaragua is where I live and I love the people there. But doesnt change my position.
    Then another one
    The Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA) of 1998 over 100 thousand more illegals being rewarded for breaking our laws.
    and another one
    The Late Amnesty of 2000 another 400 thousand allowed to jump in front of all the people standing in lines all over the world. You know the people who respect the law.
    and another one wow.
    The LIFE Act Amnesty of 2000 theres another 1 million law breakers entering our society.

    Dont everyone see the pattern??? If your child is screaming on the floor of a store wanting something and you reward that what does that teach the child???? Now we have the DREAM ACT. THis give the children of the people who broke our laws the path to be citizen. Just another way of giving in. which will lead to more people saying hell lets break the law and sneak into the USA. they will eventually change the law for us. To me all the people here illegally should be sent home to there country. Even the children. Then the children when 18 years old can apply to come here the right way.

    December 1, 2011 at 11:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kat

      WARNING MAJOR RANT…This trend adds insult to injury to a side of immigration you seldom ever hear about, legal family related immigration and what US citizens and lawful permanent residents must suffer through to live within the US with their loved ones legally.

      When I see those who have entered the country and taken up residency in violation of the country's immigration law, who do not intend to even attempt to comply with our legal immigration process to adjust their status legally, demanding the government grant them rights that are afforded to US Citizens, lawful permanent residents, and legal immigrants to this country, without being subjected the requirement for legal immigration under this country's laws, I want to shake our fellow citizens and government officials who are swayed by their demands and say....how dare you blatantly slap those who are struggling through the legal immigration system, that are US Citizens or LPR's just wanting to earn the benefit of living in their own country with their loved ones, in the face by even considering providing the rights these people are quietly struggling to legally obtain, to people who have violated those same laws, refused to struggle the same legal immigration process, and demand they be granted simply because they managed to slip under the radar of the border patrol and immigration officials, and were able to enter the country and take up residence without being caught up until this point?? ....and do so without lifting the requirements, that those adhering to the countries laws for legal immigration that are quietly struggling and suffering through????

      I have tried to raise awareness of this by writing my representatives, writing to news sources such as this very one, an even writing the white house.....but the problem is those who are struggling the legal family immigration process tend to keep a lower profile so as not to raise the ire of those immigration officials who hold their lives and futures in their hands, their quiet struggles do not gain the public attention of those who very vocally and publicly demand they be granted privileges that they have not intention to legally obtain. The squeaky wheel apparently gets the grease

      December 2, 2011 at 4:20 am | Report abuse |
      • davy

        well stated!

        December 2, 2011 at 5:21 am | Report abuse |
      • william

        Very well written. I think many of us feel the same way. Hopefully someday there will be enough of us to get some grease.

        December 2, 2011 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      Well said!! Too bad our CORRUPT politicians don't have as much compassion for US, the LEGAL, AMERICAN TAXPSAYERS they are sc rewing!

      December 2, 2011 at 6:04 am | Report abuse |

      In fact, if there is a price to pay; then so be it. Put a penalty to pay back the taxpayers; $5,000 per applicant of the dream act (roughly 5 billion for all one million). Keep in mind that they will become taxpaying residents and eventually taxpaying citizens also. I’ll personally donate plenty and put my money. If you agree with your stance then go ahead and rally financial support to pay for the deportation of every single illegal man woman AND child!!! I guarantee you that businesses and individuals will fund the Dream Act so much faster than every angry misinformed person on this blog and in this country.

      December 2, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • william

        Not angry and not misinformed. They need to follow the law just like the rest. We dont need to pay to deport them. The fix is simple. Put the business owners in jail or fine them heavy if they use illegal workers. Then shut off the supply of the government aid to all the illegals. I know a family that receives 900 dollars a month in food stamps not to mention free housing and free lunches for there children. They have 7 children and live almost free. Been here for over 15 years illegal from Mexico. I like the family and dont blame them. I blame our government for giving in to people. And Kevin I hate to tell you but its people like you who contribute to this by not have the legal morality to stand on the hard side and do the right thing. I dont know your background but if you are American or a legal resident you need to think about the shape of the USA right now. We cannot sustain the position we are in. It will eventually affect all of us. Just because your latino decent shouldnt stop you from believing in our laws or wanting to change it for the sake of Mexicans.

        December 2, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |

        I am a citizen and proud of what this country has been to the children of exploited workers so far. The Dream Act would complete that process. I was born here and I understand fully the process of reward and consequences in this nation. The process is simple...the more money you have, the more you get away with. It is obvious that illegal immigrants don't have a lot of money, so the true backers of illegal immigration are wealthy citizens or corporations who don't want things to change. Pay attention to the news lately? Banks borrow at 0.01 percent from the Federal Reserve only to loan to the Treasury (taxpayer's money) at 3%. The banks made 13 billion in free money. That is this nation corrupted by greed. The loans amounted to 7.7 trillion (11 times tarp!!!). Let's face it; no one sucks this economy dry more than its own citizens and corporations. Go buy a house William and look at how many illegal immigrates are exploited. Go buy some grounded beef for burgers and realize an illegal immigrate probably cut up the meat for you. I have seen a Mexican do lawn care 99% of the time in every home! It is citizens like you who don’t acknowledge the workers behind the scenes making it possible to have a higher standard of living. You are blind to what USA really is and what it has to do sometimes to make up for its mistakes. No one side is completely right and most illegal immigrants pay their price every day.

        December 2, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • william

        I am not blind to what the USA is. I have cut meat and I have mowed lawns. I have shoveled crap. I have done those jobs. So have many other poor american all over the USA. Not just Illegals. I suffered as a single father going to college many times wondering what I would do for food or heat in my home. In the past I know suffering. I wont feel bad for being blessed at this point in my life through hard work and dedication. I never got where I am from stealing or breaking the law. Life is hard for many people in many countries. Including the USA my friend. It doesnt give me the right to break the law of another country just because my country doesnt have the same opportunities. I believe the illegals shouldnt mow lawns or cut meat. It is better to follow the law than to change it to suit your needs. If you pass the dream act what will that really do??? It wont fix anything. Just allow the kids who are illegal to go to college. Then in a few years you will be screaming for another dream act or amnesty for the same reasons. We cant deport we cant live without illegals cutting our grass. So we have to do this. Maybe for compassion. something, anything, come on. Lastly the citizens of this country is you and me. I dont drain the USA dry and hope you are like me. I pay my dues everyday just like millions of other american and legal residents. We pay taxes which is given to illegals to live for free. Looks to me like its them taking and us the legal people paying not draining. As for the banks ect.... I agree with you they are filth. I hate banks and these big corps. messing us over every step of the way. Its sickens me and if I could get away with not having a bank I would. There we both agree on something.

        December 2, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |

        States have already allowed these kids to attend college. State money has already been invested in these children’s education. Some of them already have a degree. Next step: allow them to contribute, earn income and pay taxes. Don’t send this talent to another country…that’s blasphemy. That is what the Dream Act is about. I have been groups with some of the smartest illegal children you'll ever meet. They do incredible things in college knowing they have no way of obtaining a job after graduation.
        You are correct; their parents broke the laws, much like a parent that tells a child to go steal food for the family. Do you lock up the child in prison? What if the child was 3 months? What is he/she was 13 years old? Where do you draw the line William? The parents are not getting an award but we will NOT punish these children any more. They love USA more than Mexico unlike their parents and I’m ready to show them what this country is really about despite their parents’ choices. A 5,000 dollar (I suggest) penalty more than pays for what it cost per child to process through the system. These children have been projected to contribute 1.4 – 3.6 trillion in taxes over the course of 40 years; not to mention other intellectual contributions. Don’t write of these kids potential just yet. I know of nobody more fit to lead a nation that kids who learn without promised success. Learning, sacrifice, and humiliation are all suffered by them each day they complete a college project uncertain of the world ahead.

        December 2, 2011 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • william

        I understand your point. Compassion is very important part of human life. Granting the dream act is further rewarding not just the children. It will allow them to get a good job after college then support there illegal family. Which is just what the family wants. Kevin what about the poor children in Mexico right now. Who's parents chose not to break our immigration laws. What about those kids???? Are the one here do to the parents coming here illegally better than the poor kids that has a family with legal morals??? I would agree to one thing. If a clause was put into the dream act stating any young man or young woman receiving the dream act the family would have to voluntarily deport back to their country of origin with no possibility of return or prosecution and minimum 5 years in prison. Also immigration in future to be strictly enforced including deportation of illegals. Yes give the kids the dream act. but on condition all ILLEGAL family return home. If not your giving these kids the dream act then they will pay for there illegal family to stay. No way. Send them home.You want to keep rewarding these people. I dont get it.

        December 2, 2011 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kevin Ortega

        I keep trying to post another paragraph but the site won't let me. I guess I've been flagged?

        December 2, 2011 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • william

        Hey Kevin,
        Great debate my friend. I have learned a few things myself. Its good to see both sides of the debate. Dont think your flagged. No reason for that?? I tried to post a few times and it didnt work.. Not sure why.

        December 2, 2011 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Maria

        I don't know about you Kevin,I born in another Country my husband is American my kids born here they don't even speak my language they speak English ,and other languages,they grow up mowing grass,washing cars,packing groceries ,babysitting,cleaning offices,and they are Americans they pay for College they graduate from it,they are born from a American citizen .I live in a State were is full full of illegals they come here and keep having babies like rabbits,you go to the mall and here they are ,teenagers with two babies and another in the way..they send dollars to Mexico ,they live better than me they get education,housin everything free,meanwhile I am retired and still working ,my kids work very hard still,we speack English ,we respect the laws,we pay our taxes...this illegals (I am not talking about Mexicans only) is all over South America including Cubans they come here and use and abuse the system it is outrageous! Why your President don't take care of his Country? why is that USA have the resposability to take care of illeals? Only in America! in top of het your president came here and blame our President for the situsation in his Country? how dare...this kid killed himself because he was probably depressed ,the excuse about afraid of going to college? is a lame excuse .......I hope it doesn't became a copycat for others and come with this same excuse blaming the Country ,the most beautiful Country of the world,for their mistakes.Is many illegals here graduating from college!

        December 4, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  18. kingerik

    Like many lefty stories another story already came out proving this one is a hoax..He did not commit suicide because the Dream Act did not pass..(obviously)

    December 1, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • sharky

      Welcome to CNN where it is PC, race baiting, and stories about illegals to make America change for the worst.

      December 4, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
  19. LOL

    Seriously? I am an American (Daughter of a legal immigrant from South American BTW) who has served this country in the US Army and I have a 3.9 GPA. I speak 4 languages and I cannot afford to go to my DREAM school...HARVARD. You think I am going to kill myself over that?

    What makes people think this guy had NO options whatsoever? Why is going back to Mexico never an option. Enough wit the excuses "He doesn't know Mexico blah blah blah". We have students come to this country from ALL OVER THE WORLD...and people who have never even been here!


    "Joaquin Luna’s death has captured national attention after the family told Action 4 News Joaquin killed himself over immigrant concerns and the Dream Act.

    On Tuesday, sources close to the investigation reached out to Action 4 News claiming that is simply “not true.”

    They said the suicide letters left behind did not mention Luna’s concerns over the Dream Act or his immigration status.

    Sources went on to tell Action 4 News Joaquin left behind eight to nine letters each dedicated to people close to him including his sisters, brothers and even his best friend.


    She said he never mentioned the Dream Act or showed signs that he didn’t believe he would be able to attend college or have a career".


    December 1, 2011 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • sharky

      This is what CNN does.

      December 4, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Kat

    Once again attempting to post the first part of my lengthy commentary on this article. First I would have liked to express my condolences to this teenager's family for their loss. I know that losing a family member or loved one to suicide is an extremely difficult and painful experience. Their loss is most definitely a tragedy.

    This article appears to imply that this young man took his life because his status as an illegal immigrant made it nearly impossible for him to be accepted to attend college which is not the case according to an article supposedly approved by his family at tucsoncitizen.com The article dated November 30, 2011 states that : "Joaquin was accepted into ITT and Texas A&M and University of Texas – Pan American in Edinburg, TX, " While another article dated November 28, 2011 posted at: newamericamedia.org states: "Then, the DREAM Act did not pass and his college acceptance and financial aid letters started asking about his immigration status."

    December 1, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kat

      One part yet to follow if possible, when and if the site allows me to finish this again my apologies

      December 1, 2011 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Kat

    Part 2 I hope I have sectioned this sufficiently for both to post

    The Dream Act if it were enacted would have some degree of impact on one issue that the second article quoted above states: "Joaquin’s biggest worry became that after all those years in college he would end up without a job. He had a dream, the American Dream, but he felt his immigration status prevented him from reaching it. "

    It is true that under the current laws pertaining to US immigration, that after many years in college earning a degree, his current immigration status would prevent him from obtaining a job legally in the US. A work permit is required to legally obtain employment within the US if one does not have legal status within the US, such as a green card, or citizenship which include legal authorization to work in the US.

    That being said though, the ability to legally obtain employment in the US either via work permit or legal status that includes legal authorization to work, does not guarantee or even imply the "right" to a job. In our current economic times it is not unheard of to find that after shouldering a substantial financial burden and spending years obtaining a degree, students upon graduation find it difficult to obtain employment within their field of expertise, irrespective of their legal status within the US.

    The Dream Act does provide benefits for those who were brought to the US illegally by their parents and find they face the prospect of being deported to a country and culture they have no personal knowledge of or experience with, but it is not a free ride.

    December 1, 2011 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kat

      Argh for some reason I cannot post the first part of my lengthy comment to this article at this time. Hopefully eventually the site will allow me to post the rest

      My apologies

      December 1, 2011 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • H

        Please don't subject us to the first part of your hysterical, anti-immigrant, xenophobic screed. Your first reply to any post was 2 gargantuan run-on sentences. Take a remedial English class and then try again.

        December 2, 2011 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • william

        come on give us a debate. Dont pick apart someone writing skills. Respond to it my friend.

        December 2, 2011 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kat

        Reply to "H": had you actually read anything I posted the first line of the post you are replying to explains the reason for my posts formatting issues. Of course had you read anything I posted you might have realized how foolish the remainder of your reply was

        December 3, 2011 at 5:55 am | Report abuse |
  22. JD

    No. No. A thousand times no. You don't get what you want by pouting, whining, and being a pain the backside until other people give in. We can't go down that road. This is an example of that. He didn't get what he wanted, so he engaged in an extreme form of pouting. We must not encourage this type of behavior. What next – Muslims committing suicide until we make Islam the national language?

    December 1, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kara

      JD- Oh my, I do hope you're being sarcastic. I don't care about the rest of your comment, because your ignorance is extremely apparent by the fact that you think Islam is a language.

      December 3, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
  23. bette davis

    Stop writing comments, start sending letters to politicans, newspapers to stop this nonsense. His family is responsible for his death. They should have followed the process and became legal. Their ignorant and want a hand out. Americans stood together to get rid of Osama bin Laden, we can stand together and take back our country from illegal immigrants.

    December 1, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Terri

      *They're ignorant. Oh, the irony.

      December 4, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maria

      Good said! he killed himself for another reasons! what a lame excuse! I know many illegals that graduate form College maybe he wants Harvard? now the illegals are going to move earth and heavens about this issue.This kid had another issues for sure!

      December 4, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Sachnique

    Are you serious? He killed himself because he couldn't go to college? No he killed himself because he was emotionally unstable. I know illegals who have graduated from college, they just pay for it themselves. This is an extreme story Rafael Romo took and ran with for sensationalism. I am a tv news journalist...I know

    December 1, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sachnique

      That guy probably wrote one sentence in his suicide letter about killing himself because of college. They took that and made up this whole story...ugh news

      December 1, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Citizen1234

      People who commit suicide have mental problems. Why didn't his parents seek treatment for his mental problems? Millions never attend any college yet get good jobs, and live good lives, so this excuse if not a valid one. Mental instability is.

      December 1, 2011 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |

        I wonder why this blog doesn't show all of my comments?

        December 1, 2011 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Maria

        AMEN!!!! what about poor grades? this family is using a lame excuse !

        December 4, 2011 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
  25. You know it

    America is facing a very real shortage of engineers and doctors, and America would have benefited from a young engineer or doctor named Luna. We have enough people in America who will not put in the effort to go to school. Should we not support those who do want to go to school, regardless of immigration status.

    December 1, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • davy

      in a word "NO"

      December 1, 2011 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • NO!


      December 1, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Citizen1234

      Someone with mental instability like Luna would never have become a doctor or engineer. Sorry, just true. Does everyone who can’t afford college commit suicide? NO they don’t.

      December 1, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Brandon

        Really??It's been proven that the line between mental instability and genius is extremely fine. How many historically great and brilliant people have offed themselves off? Learn some history before you even use or elaborate on that argument.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • davy

        Brandon you are an IDIOT

        December 1, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Citizen1234

        The kid was no genius, otherwise he would have figured it out, no he was just a kid with mental problems. Instability.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • KatM

        3 years ago I tried to commit suicide but was saved by my roommates. The next year I was able to graduate from a top 20 university with honors and I am now getting my master's degree at another top 20 university. The desire to attempt suicide is based off of many things but does not mean that someone will never be successful. Millions of people have attempted suicide at one point, and many say that that experience changed their lives for the better, making them in to determined and successful individuals. Regardless of why this boy chose to take his own life, show some respect for those who have suffered enough pain and/or mental illness to consider such a drastic act.

        December 2, 2011 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • wmurderface

      No. To many Americans can't afford to go to school. We need to take care of our own before we reward the criminals. The same criminals that fly their mexican flag in my country. Out with the illegals.

      December 8, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Mike C.

    The story is misleading. Illegals can go to college in this country because colleges will accept them. Only difference is, they are not eligible for federal aid.

    Sholdn't the responsibility of his death be placed on his parents for bringing him to this country illegaly and knowing full well there were limitations on illegals?

    Don't pass the blame buck...

    December 1, 2011 at 1:40 am | Report abuse |
    • mac58

      Maybe his family ought to look a little deeper into why their son and brother killed himself. I think they only need to look into the mirror for the answer.

      December 1, 2011 at 1:54 am | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC


      December 1, 2011 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  27. mac58

    Trade schools can offer a more realistic chance at a descent life at allot cheaper cost. College is a Scam, a scam to bleed money from those who can never pay the loan back.

    December 1, 2011 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Citizen1234

      Yes, there are millions in college right now who should not be there in the first place. They can't handle it for a myriad of reasons from grades, cost, lack of maturity, etc. It's a huge waste.

      Bring back Trade Schools! Plumbers, Electricians and Auto Mechanics make a great living.

      December 1, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dust Bunny

        They won't make a great living if there is a glut of them in the market: They'll be a dime a dozen, and all of our teachers, doctors, and anything else that needs a college degree will be from . . . somewhere else, apparently. I bet you're the type who complains that his doctors are all South Asian or Middle Eastern. Think about it.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • SteveX

        @dustbunny – you don't NEED a degree to teach. You need teaching skills!! Unfortunately, in today's world you need a freakin' doctorate + 15 yrs student loan paybacks, to become a 1st grade teacher.
        Same for most "science and engineering" degrees. What you get from 4 yrs of college is totally useless in the real world – except getting used to long hours 🙂

        December 1, 2011 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |

    The Dream Act WILL probably pass sometime in the near future. All of you will be upset and jealous because you feel like someone took your opportunity AND money.
    Oh well...I see a bunch of educated disenfranchised kids working to contribute to the only country they have truly known. I see that they will contribute to this melting pot nation and pay taxes and I'm proud to call this America. Without immigrants, we are nothing. They might have crossed a border but most of your ancestors crossed an entire ocean. Your backs are truly wet!!!
    Get over yourself and grow up. This is still a land of opportunity and none of you belong here; unless you have a feather on your head. Humans have an opportunity to reach out and work their way into a nation in spite of the broken system. It has ALWAYS been this way and it will continue to be this way forever. Get over it already and learn to work harder as policies continue to fail you.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • wow

      and that's the truth!!! People that celebrate Christmas this year and do not support the Dream Act ...ask yourself "why the hell am i so racist and incredibly UNLIKE Christ?"

      Happy Holidays to everyone, but Dream Act eligible candidates. *sarcasm*

      smh at some of these comments.

      November 30, 2011 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • JOSE0311USMC


        December 1, 2011 at 10:44 am | Report abuse |
      • william

        Jose0311usmc Damn good brother. I normal head in the crowd. Nice to see not everyone is losing it. I agree totally with the troops on the borders. Bring everyone home from the crappy middle east and protect our borders.
        THis is for WOW comment. Sounds like your christian?? Tell me how much room do you have in your house??? WHy dont you put a sign in front of your yard ALL WELCOME. You feed them you house them. Our house is already full here in the USA. Being Christian has nothing to do with the fact you cant let every person suffering in the whole world come in. Get real. What a dumb comment.

        December 1, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • william

      I think most Americans feel the same as me. I dont have a problem with people coming into the USA LEGALLY. I am multicultured my mother is Native American Father white. And on top of this I live in latin america with children. Wife is Latina as well. My only problem is giving people something for breaking the law. At this time people can illegally come to america nad have a child. That child is American. Now people are talking about a dream act. I am so but I dont think you should give these people anything. I believe they should be sent home with the children. My wife waited in line and obtained a visa. People who sneak into America dont give a Sh_t about the law. Send them home my friend. Let them go threw the process just like my wife.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        These illegal immigrants don't have time to wait. Their lives are at stake and they can either life a horrible life and have a higher chance of dying in the drug wars (which is actually the fault of Americans who purchase a majority of the drugs and essentially cause these wars) or they can take a risk of coming to the United States and having a better life. They didn't ask to be born in Mexico, you are just lucky you were born in the United States. Put yourself realistically in their shoes, that is, if they even have shoes.

        December 1, 2011 at 12:50 am | Report abuse |
      • rhp

        This is in reply to Sarah, but it won't let me reply there.

        No one asks to be born anywhere. I didn't ask to be born in the United States. Guess what? I would actually really love to move to Europe. But I can't. Because? Because there are rules and regulations for immigration, and I do not meet the requirements. So guess what? I can't go right now, unless I decide to study abroad. Which I may very well do. But until then, I'm not going to sneak into France or wherever.

        I get that they have it bad in Mexico. I really do. I don't want anyone to suffer. But what I don't understand is why you and others think that we can just let anyone come into this country. We can't just let everyone come here. It's just not possible. If we just let everyone and their entire families come here, think about the consequences it would have.

        Some of you should go read the requirements to immigrate to Mexico. It's hefty. It's a lot more complex and difficult than it is for someone to immigrate here. It's sad that not everyone can afford to legally immigrate to the United States. But, as I just said… it's just not possible.

        I am not racist, and I value the diversity in our country. I realize it is a melting pot of culture, and that the US truly is made up OF immigrants. But again – there are immigration rules for a reason. And if I myself have to follow them if I want to immigrate somewhere, why should all these people sneaking into the US from Mexico not be held to the same standards? Do we allow poor and starving people to steal food from a store because they are hungry? Clothes because they don't have any? No. And so just because people have a very hard life in Mexico doesn't mean that they are exempt from the rules. It's sad, but it's just life.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:56 am | Report abuse |
      • JOSE0311USMC


        December 1, 2011 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
      • william

        I understand people are are hurting in mexico and being killed in the streets. Thats a shame for sure. There are young kids here in USA being killed in the streets in drug and gang ridden streets. Many of us dont live there but it is here as well. We cant open the doors to everyone. I worked in Africa for 5 years and I can tell you Mexico is a dream compared to what I have seen in Nigeria and Cameroon. There are children starving right in front of your eyes. Millions of them over there. They die from simple illnesses just because they dont have medicine. And everyone is talking about Mexicans not having shoes on there feet??? Please Sara. I would bet you havnt even been to Mexico. If you had been there you would know there are many wealthy people that live there as well. You cant take in the poor people from every country in the world. I have an idea. If you really feel bad for the poor why dont you help the ones closest to you. There are so many poor people right here in USA. Why dont you help them??? I dont get it. Its like a social status to adopt some baby from africa or honduras when there are so many children here that need help. Hell the USA gives millions of aid to countries every year. And most of the people hate us and wish us dead. Oh but they still want our taxpayer money. Most of you dont know. Move overseas for 15 years like me and live in some of those countries. See how the people treat you. I promise you will have a different look at things. And all this crap about USA wnating to steal oil ect..... I work offshore drilling for oil. And we steal nothing. Everything we get the USA pays for. on top of paying for the oil we pay to drill for the oil. Oh and on top of that when the people get mad because there government steal all the money we give they come on our oil platform and hold us hostage until they are given money. Its a joke people.

        December 1, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sarah


        I want to make it clear that I do not fully support illegal immigration in terms of the parents of families from Mexico. What I do support is the children who were brought with those parents having the chance to gain knowledge and get an education. I do help our country and have donated a serious amount of money to USA funded organizations. I also am frustrated with Americans helping other countries out the most of any other country and then having the world hate us, it is very frustrating. I am a very proud American. I also am very aware of the struggles that Americans have and the need to help our own country first. The problem is the Mexicans are going to keep filing into our country and there is not much we can realistically do to stop them. Rather than fuss and complain over the fact that they are here, the least we can do is support the children who did not choose to come here and help them get an education. If they are educated, it only further enhances the quality of the minds of people in the United States. And who knows, perhaps one of those students will end up being one that invents the next big thing for the United States. In addition to that, if you read Business Week, they just came out with an issue about the fact that Americans don't even want the dirty jobs. So with our relatively high unemployment at the moment, even if the Mexicans weren't here, Americans wouldn't even take those jobs anyway. At the end of the day, my personal belief (and I understand yours differs from mine) is that (insert higher power of choice) doesn't care about rules and regulations, what He cares about is whether or not we welcomed those in need during our lifetime. Whether they are doing it legally or not, one should never turn down those in need. That includes all races, all countries and all situations.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |

        It is the middle class that have lost their jobs due to greed, overinflated home prices and gambled retirement accounts and pensions. The layoffs that hurt the economy were in companies like General Motors, Citigroup, Hewlett-Packard, Circuit City, Verizon, Dow chemical, Starbucks, Sun Microsystems, etc... I can go on forever and still those jobs were never taken by illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants do contracting work in construction, cleaning and other service based skills. They are contracted out by big and small businesses but they rarely hold a full time job with benefits!!! I promise if you all go to a company you know hires an illegal and ask to work for the same pay and no benefits, I’m sure they will fired all illegal immigrants just to have a citizen work those jobs that keep labor costs down and home prices affordable in those states most affected. Illegal immigrants are like Wal-Mart; everyone hates it when Wal-Mart puts small overpriced businesses out but no one wants to pay higher prices for the same items. Their educated and determined children are the blessing this country needs! I welcome them because they inspire me to learn in spite of challenges. That is what they represent.

        December 1, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sarah

        Kevin Ortega,

        Beautifully written, thank you for your input! I completely agree with you!

        December 1, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • william

        Nicely written:) I feel like you about children regardless of race being given chances to succeed in life. I dont even look at the color or race of any person of any age. I think we need to all get away from the race card. It is used all the time. I remember just out of college I worked in a juvenile prison and heard a teacher tell a class full of black and latino boys "Look around you. Your all minority kids. You think your here by choice? Know your here by design. The white man put you here" This is the same think Germany did in world war 2. Brainwashing young kids. Now anyone who disagrees with the dream act is a bigot. So all the latinos think "wow there are a bunch of white bigots in USA. they dont want the dream act because they want to keep our children down." This is so far from the truth. I believe very much in the law of OUR country. You, me, and the rest of our country needs to respect it. I have seen countries without laws. Politicians changing the law when they want to gain a vote. Thats what all of this is about. I mean think about it. We are all for the law but we each have convictions about what the law is. We cant just change the law when we want a vote. Or to band aid something. Listen I believe in helping. I am a very generous person but the dream act to help illegals isnt right in my opinion. LEt me give you and Kevin Ortega some information. I am not sure you know all this. If you do your position really scares me. First let me point out we have changed immigration laws at least 7 times starting around 1986.
        first was
        The Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA) 2.8 million illegals bam citizens (Reward for breaking the law)
        Next was
        Amnesty of 1994 over 550 thousand bam there it is again.
        next we have
        Extension Amnesty of 1997 this was an extension of the 94 amnesty
        then there was
        The Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty of 1997 Another 1 million illegals
        Oh Nicaragua is where I live and I love the people there. But doesnt change my position.
        Then another one
        The Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA) of 1998 over 100 thousand more illegals being rewarded for breaking our laws.
        and another one
        The Late Amnesty of 2000 another 400 thousand allowed to jump in front of all the people standing in lines all over the world. You know the people who respect the law.
        and another one wow. The LIFE Act Amnesty of 2000 theres another 1 million law breakers entering our society.
        DOnt everyone see the pattern??? If your child is screaming on the floor of a store wanting something and you reward that what does that teach the child???? Now we have the DREAM ACT. THis give the children of the people who broke our laws the path to be citizen. Just another way of giving in. which will lead to more people saying hell lets break the law and sneak into the USA. they will eventually change the law for us. To me all the people here illegally should be sent home to there country. Even the children. Then the children when 18 years old can apply to come here the right way.

        December 1, 2011 at 11:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC


      December 1, 2011 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
      • bette davis

        I agree, illegal immigration needs to be stopped. His family is to blame for his death. These people know there are here illegally and refuse to do anything about it. When my friend from Italy visa expired, he was given 30 days to leave the country and he is a surgeon. So with that being said, if he was told to leave the same should apply to the millions of illegals. I'm tired of this debate, America has laws and if illegals especially Latinos can't follow the law deport them. Why should we change our laws because their ignorant trash. I work with Chinese people who came here and went through the proper channels and became citizens, if they can do it so anyone else. Americans need to protest about this, because our taxes are taken care of these low life. I don't have any respect for them. The Germans built a wall, I know America can too.

        December 1, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Citizen1234

      Don’t romanticize law breaking. There are plenty of legal ways to migrate to the U.S. This kid’s parent decided that was not important to follow the law, which is the first indicator they would never be good citizens. Why couldn’t this kid go to school in the county he came from? Hmm?

      December 1, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |

      William: That just further proves that the system is broken and there has been acknowledgement of it through blanket amnesty acts in the past. This Dream Act however is NOT blanket amnesty and; in fact, it is the first real progressive step away from blanket amnesty while still considering the fact that you can never deport millions of workers that came here because of a broken system. There is a need for these workers and they fill that need…period. For the first time we aim to only create incentives for children that have assimilated into our society and have higher education as a priority. We can’t keep importing our engineers from China when we have plenty of talent tied up in a broken immigration system.

      December 2, 2011 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
      • william

        The only thing that i broken is giving these people amnesty after coming here illegal. Thats whats broken not the system. Giving them amnesty only shows people like you and some stupid politicians what to reward people for breaking our laws which further reinforces the behavior of others to do the same. They see Tio Paco and Tia Rosa do it and get something now they think they can do it and get the same. So its a chain that is never broken. Thats why there were so many amnesty laws passed. Because we didnt make it hard for the people breaking the law. if we stop them from working which really is an easy thing to do. And we stop all government aid to them they will leave. We need to pull all options for them off the table. Make them go home and allow the ones who are applying and waiting in line the chance to come here. Oh one other thing. You cant tell me we need Mexicans engineers and Doctors. I am an Engineer and jobs are getting tighter for all of us here in the USA. We can fill all our job needs with americans. Regardless of race as long as they are Americans or LEGALS. We have 25 to 30 percent young men and women without jobs. Give those entry jobs to our young boys and girls

        December 2, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |

        Coming to this country was only part of the crime. The fact that illegal services are exploited continuously is a testament to how BROKEN the system is. It isn't only amnesty or crossing the border...it is exploitation of their services. If an illegal immigrant wants a job, he will get a job no problem. If everyone followed the rules there would be no hiring of them and they would just leave. In fact, if Texas didn't benefit so much, Perry would've never allowed in-state tuition. The lobbying efforts are not on your side William. It is clear to see that there is big and small business behind the immigration problem and both sides are at fault. That is why the Dream Act makes sense. It aims to turn children of an exploited enterprise into citizens (a plus is that the pre-requisite is a college education). We simply do not have the control or resources to stop using illegal labor. For centuries we have used a subclass to burden with lower standards of living for little to no pay in exchange for extreme workloads and conditions. This is an America addiction. We do not have the resources to deport every one of them. Charging a penalty and creating a pathway to become contributing members is the smartest and most cost effective way to solve this problem.
        We can eventually make it harder for them to get a job and that is finally becoming a major effort. This will solve the immigration problem entirely. Until then, the Dream Act is the way to go and policies are very against you even in a Red State such as Texas.

        December 2, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • william

        The dream act doesnt make sense. Only for people who are for it. If we send business owners to jail or fine them they wont hire illegals. Not only are illegals breaking the law by coming here many are breaking the law by receiving aid (lying ect.. on forms) illegals breaking the law by sneaking into USA or by receiving aid by fraudulent means does NOT mean the system is broken. It means people are breaking the LAW. And you are saying oh well its the system not the lawbreakers. That doesnt make sense to me. Perry allowed in state tuition because Texas has a large voting majority of latin voters. And he is a POLITICIAN. Trust me my friend Texas would be just fine No Texas would be much better if we pushed all the illegal Mexicans back to Mexico. As for the lobby part. I will admit Hispanics are pushing real hard for the dream act. But never forget USA is a big country. And my friend the numbers are not on your side. The majority are still against the dream act. Over 50 percent vs 35 percent say NO to the dream act. Until that changes your dream act isnt going anyplace. It has failed already and will continue to fail until public opinion changes. I believe the immigration problem is going to continue for a long time. Being a large land owner in Texas 5 miles from the Mexican border I can tell you border control isnt being addressed. So until this happens we will continue to discuss this problem. One more thing. I dont believe in using your so called (subclass) I hoenstly believe we are all humans and if your doing the job you should be paid the same as the person beside you regardless of race. Allowing business owner to use people in this way is wrong and if they go to jail for this no more problem with immigration.

        December 2, 2011 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |

        Stable home prices in Texas were in fact the result of higher inventory. This was due to the fact that labor for building homes was cheap and available. If it wasn't for that, Texas would have had low inventory and demand would have shot up home prices. Texas was able to avoid a devastating over inflated housing market.
        The dream act lost due to 5 votes unable to break a republican filibuster in the Senate (December 2010). This would’ve advanced it to the Senate floor. I guess Republicans want to be the ones to pass illegal immigrant friendly legislation just like they always do.
        Btw...public opinion is only affected by the economy now and, as of today, the unemployment rate dropped and 120K jobs were added. Brace yourself for some contributing Mexican graduates competing with others. They will show us what hard work is about and they will be grateful also.

        December 2, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • william

        Labor was cheap and available??? It sounds like your condoning underpaying migrant workings (slave wages). These nasty corrupt countries are sending work to China for the same reason to make shirts and jeans in sweatshops. You cant use that as an excuse for the housing failure. It is the banks who were giving loans to people high risk. thats what caused the problem. As for the Texas housing market. It wasnt the cheap labor Kevin. Sorry to tell you. It was the abundant land available and the relaxed zoning codes that stopped Texas from seeing the housing bubble the other states are going through. Also Texas has state lawsthat prohibited consumers from using home-equity lines of credit to increase borrowing to more than 80 percent of the value of their homes. This is what saved Texas my friend. As for jobs its the massive Crude oil business that has kept Texas strong. I work out of Houston in the oil business and the guys working in the same field are making 6 figures a year. THis helps Texas when we spend in Texas. I have to go back to you using the BROKEN SYSTEM thing. THe system is broken because we keep giving amnesty and allowing these people to work in USA. THats why the system is broken. It wouldnt be BROKEN if we got tough on illegal immigration.

        December 2, 2011 at 6:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kevin Ortega

        For some reason I am unable to write but a few sentences anymore. Hope you learned something William. I know I did.

        December 2, 2011 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
  29. college student

    so whats the problem if he could pay the school? All he would have had to do was mention that he wasn't from the States and he probably would have gotten to go for their international student count.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      Yeah, and then he would have to apply as an international student who's admissions are much more rigorous and would have to prove that he could pay full tuition before acceptance, something he could not do.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Billy

    You people with your negative and heartless comments are obviously uneducated, unread, culturally unexposed, untraveled and live very unfulfilled lives.

    You think you're so high an mighty that you'll never experience dispair to the point where you'd consider suicide... how arrogant and delusional of you all.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • OnTheRoad

      Maybe you should go back on your meds! Seems that you might have a little problem there!

      November 30, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |

        Hit the road OnTheRoad.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC


      December 1, 2011 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
      • Krystal

        Funny that your name is JOSE.
        Haha Wow.

        December 4, 2011 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC


      December 1, 2011 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
      • Brandon

        Illegals can't vote, idiot.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • davy

        Branon is an Idoit!

        December 1, 2011 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Brandon

        You can't even spell.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • davy

        grammer Nazi

        December 1, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC


      December 1, 2011 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
      • Brandon

        This IS their country. More so the younger ones, who have no recollection of Mexico. Some who have done more for this country than some of you have, some who have raised the American flag, some who have tutored your American children, you don't know what some of them do for you, get over yourself.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • davy

        Send Brandon to Mexico!

        December 1, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Brandon

        Davy, your arguments are useless.

        December 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • davy

        just as useless as yours

        December 1, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jay

      Well stated Billy. They are the biggots of this country!!!

      December 2, 2011 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Keeg

    Sucide is unfortunate, the liberals will make this a rallying cry – but sane people do not take their lives, the fella had other problems.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Harry

      One doesn't have to be, "insane" to commit suicide. You may think otherwise but you would be incorrect.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • davy

        I can only write.... LMAO

        November 30, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Harry

        @Davy- Hopelessness doesn't equal insanity.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      IInsanity, is not a mental disorder, or anything used by psychologist. It is used by courts and its only definition is not being aware or in control of your actions.

      The true reasons for this young man to take his life is probably complex and life long. Blaming one factor is just plain wrong. Depression is a vicious cycle. When you ignore all other factors, its always easy to try and make a political point.

      November 30, 2011 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOSE0311USMC


      December 1, 2011 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
      • bette davis

        You're right. Democrats are only doing this to get the Hispanic vote. If they vote or don't vote, the law is going to be the law and I hope illegal immigrants get crushed. Who do they think they are? To come here and tell Americans what to do, when half of them especially hispanics can't speak english. Even a coupon is in spanish. They're trash and need to be deported ASAP. They're only used for cheap labor, farm workers, kitchen help. They're slaves and too stupid too see it. If the boy who committed suicide had an ounce of sense, he would have went to immigration and went through the process to become legal. No, he just wanted it free. Do it the right way and they won't have to commit suicide.

        December 1, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • SteveX

        JOSE0311USMC !!
        posting in CAPS is considered YELLING or SHOUTING !!
        Please correct... thank you. 🙂

        December 1, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  32. OnTheRoad

    He was not mentally strong enough to cope with this issue, and his family did not care enough to help him! They just want to say that is this country's fault! If all of their family's problems are this country's fault, then go back to Mexico and complain to that government Before they are finished then, I guess they will want us to pay them millions?

    November 30, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
  33. OregonTom

    Universities are cheaper in Mexico. He was bilingual he had nothing to worry about. Poor kid.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      Not necessarily. Public universities are free but require entrance by college exam based on curriculum taught in Mexican schools, obviously something he doesn't have. Private universities are much more expensive, and the culture shock would have been immense.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
  34. atcdude11

    i am not going to say the loss to his family isn't something hard for them but if school was so important to him GET LEGAL CITIZENSHIP as an hispanic american if my family did it you/yours can too!!!!

    November 30, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Frank Sellers

      Hard to get legal when you're already here illegally, especially when you're an unskilled, minimum-wage worker. Wouldn't that require going back to your home country and then trying to return legally? Did your family come here legally? You judge too harshly. I wish I had the money to start a company like the Koreans, Chinese and Indians have, where I could sponsor unskilled Latinos to come here and work, though I wouldn't exploit them the way I've read these other companies do. Hey, actdud11! You know so much! You MUST be rich! Why don't YOU help out your fellow Latinos and start such a company?! 🙂

      December 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
  35. jon

    Lets educate the entire world at US taxpayers expense. Illegal is still illegal. Go back to where you came from and get an education or get in the country legally. Legal entry into this country, WOW what a new concept.

    November 30, 2011 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
  36. Zack

    Good old USA , Now I no why I would never even visit there People are so rude unfriendly

    November 30, 2011 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
    • alien1986

      How many of the 300 Million Americans have you actually met. Your statement is as cool as someone saying that all Mexicans are drug dealers.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
  37. marc

    From his actions alone I'd say he wasn't college material to begin with only an insane person would kill himself. What if he would have gotten into college and got a bad grade if he's insane enough to shoot himself in the head whose to say he won't snap and go on a shooting spree in a school. He clearly wasn't wrapped to tight.

    November 30, 2011 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
  38. Lisa A.

    Look, I am sorry for the parents for the loss of their child, but that's it. If these people want an education then let them come here legally and get it through legal channels, and they need to be able to pay for it.

    I am so tired of this country bending over backwards to make things easier for illegals when millions of legal Americans can barely get by, and their children have absolutely no hope of ever going to college.

    I have a son I want to send to college but I have no idea how I will be able to. He is smart and works hard in school with a 3.5 GPA, but that don't mean crap anymore with schools; and forget a scholarship because he is just a plain average white boy, so no special considerations for him.


    November 30, 2011 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
    • common sense

      seriously? There are things called pell grants. If you make such a low income then send your child to community college. 3.5 GPA? Seriously? He can so get a scholarship stop being a potato couch and do some research.

      November 30, 2011 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
      • Lisa A.

        Yea I make a low income but it is still too high for all the grants....Most of these grants haven't taken inflation and cost of living changes into consideration for years. And we have been doing the round of scholarship information packets. I have been doing my research and I know exactly how hard it is. And it is unfair for you or anyone else to say that my child has to be relegated to a Community College while some illegal gets hand outs and doors opened for them straight into a University.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • somuchfor

      I agree with you. There are only so many students accepted into our universities and it's wrong to let illegal immigrants take the place of legal residents get in head of them in line for the limited amounts of funding available. And common sense is wrong. 3.5 doesn't "so" get you a scholarship. He/She's a little out of touch.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Lisa A.

        Thanks somuchfor:) I think alot of people do understand, but you always have a few who just have no clue but still have to spout off their mouths.

        Many of those who think that having a 3.5 GPA is automatic entry into college; or think that you can get a grant, a scholarship, or a student loan with no problem aren't in touch with today's reality. They probably haven't seen the inside of a college or university in more years than they can count; they don't have a child to worry about; or even more likely they have money coming out their @$$ and don't have the financial concerns the rest of us do. They probably just hand over a blank check to their kid and say don't worry about it.

        Too bad more of us don't have that luxury:)

        November 30, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Todd

      Do what me and my brothers did and take out a loan, or like myself join the military and use the GI bill. There are ways you just have to look and stop Bit--g.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Ben

      How do you suggest they get here legally?

      Our immigration policies are not consistent with the desire from other peoples to live the American Dream. We can either make it easier for them to immigrate, or continue seeing high numbers of illegals.

      It's very naive to think otherwise.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Lisa A.

        Thousands of people mange to get here legally every year. I suggest they do it the same way they do.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • jim

        Funny, but THOUSANDS of folks come here every year quite legally.......Don't know about your background, but America is the only country I ahve been to [and I have spent a lot of time outside of our country working] where if you do not speak the language or you cross the borders illegally you aren't in a heap of trouble.

        I have no time for those who break our laws, steal from our nation in the form of medical, education and other assets and frankly become more of a nuisance than help. If you aren't ready to do it right....don't do it. This Pollyanna view of the world must stop.....or would you like to have a few more folks crashing airplanes into tall buildings, releasing germs into the wind or possibly you'd enjoy a nice dirty bomb being popped in your back yard?

        November 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  39. common sense

    America has a reputation for being the best country to live in the world. Other countries do no have the same opportunities as we do. All of you people are selfish human beings. In other countries poverty is so high and parents can not even afford to send their children to elementary school more or less middle school . How do you expect them to afford college?!! When they dont even have a job and the nearest town is miles away? Have any of you every left the country? because according to these comments you all believe that the center of the universe is America. Well guess what its not. There is a world out there. One day America will need the help of outside countries and if we keep this nonsense up we will be screwed.

    November 30, 2011 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Lisa A.

      You need to look at things in this country now. More and more unemployment and the number of legal Americans now living below poverty level is rising. We need to take care of our own and our own country and stop being the welfare system for the whole world!!!

      November 30, 2011 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Patel

      In many countries University is free, one has to pass the exmans to be accepted. In the USA is expensive but in Texas they pay less that American students that are from other states.'
      Also plenty of finantial help. It his parents fault.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
      • common sense

        agreed parents fault

        November 30, 2011 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • somuchfor

      You are so far out there that your common sense moniker is an oxymoron. Yes, education is difficult in other countries. But no, we shouldn't pay to educate the rest of the world. We are talking about Illegal immigrants, not legal visa holders. Get a grip, we need to take care of our own first–then the rest of the world.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
    • GinnyL

      America may not be the center of the universe but this article is not discussing the ills of other nations, especially in relation to us. It's addressing a problem within the USA and you need to remain on topic.

      It is sad when anyone reaches the point where, in his mind, there is absolutely no hope. However, I find it difficult to accept the premise that the only reason Mr. Luna committed suicide was because he could not get into college. It was near Thanksgiving. How did he know all doors to academia were closed? Had he considered getting accepted and then filing for a student visa? (That's done at our school sometimes.) Had he talked to other students who were in a situation similar to his that had found ways around his dilemma? There were more factors involved in his suicide than not being able to go on to college.

      Pell grants are being spread extremely thin across the country as more people's incomes tank and more students become eligible for grants but the total grant monies have not increased. Loans are available but even they are becoming more difficult to obtain. Add to that the escalating costs of going to college and the prospect does seem bleak to many, especially illegal immigrants who, rightfully so, should not be eligible for grants and loans offered to those in the country legally. Ironically, middle income students are the ones in the most dire situations financially. They or their parents make too much money for many financial resources but do not have enough money to pay for their or their child's college education, even if students wisely use the junior college systems as their stepping stones to four-year college.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
  40. davy

    Blame the family,not congress. They put him in his position. Although, only sick minded people kill themselfs.

    November 30, 2011 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Ben

      "only sick minded people kill themselves" Hmm... it would seem that way from an American perspective. We value survival and individual accomplishment probably more than any other culture on earth.

      I feel like Latin Americans have a much stronger sense of duty to family and cultural background than we tend to have. I think the pressure of living up to the expectations of family is a much larger problem outside the US. Coupled with the confusion he must have been feeling while trying to fully assimilate into two different cultures at once, it has to have been a pretty tough situation.

      Also, it's important to remember that for teenagers, emotions and responses are much stronger than adults, due to all the hormones. Teens also suffer from a lack of perspective. They've lived much shorter lives than the people around them, and even relatively minor problems can seem catastrophic, much less an actual potential life-ruiner like this.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
  41. TristanM

    It's tiring to keep hearing how bad illegal immigrants have it here in the United States. After going through the immigration process and it's cost to bring my wife and daughter into the country legally. It's articles like this and others of it's kind only insults those that immigrate leagally.

    November 30, 2011 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
  42. Serious Person

    Personally, I think if illegal aliens can pay for the education, let them have it. I do have a problem with tax payer money paying for their education when there are legal citizens that cannot get help for college expenses in this country. I personally, am an immigrant (have my legal green card) and had to pay every single penny of my college bill. It took me years to pay for my college and that was in a decent economy. I can't imagine what students are going through today. Anyway, illegal immigrants should not have special rights that actual citizens don't even have. Period.

    November 30, 2011 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
    • somuchfor

      I agree with you and your voice should be one of the strongest against this. You did everything right. Why shouldn't they?

      November 30, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  43. Been There Done That

    Sad...As much as I'm not a fan of illegal immigration, this is disparaging.

    November 30, 2011 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
  44. Adraganescu

    There are many ways to get an education in USA legal or illegal. It is very sad to hear that a young man took his life because he could not attend a college due to his status in this county, perhaps there were other issue other than the education factor.

    November 30, 2011 at 8:52 am | Report abuse |
    • K

      I'm sorry but talk about to "stupid to (fill in the blank)"

      November 30, 2011 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
      • davy

        you got that right,K

        November 30, 2011 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
    • angrysouther

      Illega-means CRIMINAL, criminals should NOT get to attend our university's, especially at OUR expense. Maybe his family can look in a mirror and see THEY alone are the guilty party in this. THEY decided to illegally enter the US, and they are living here as resident CRIMINALS. Bad enough they are using public schools to educate their illegally attending kids, now you want open college enrollment for them, which means that a QUALIFIED US resident may not get a college spot because it is filled by the ILLEGAL?

      You people need a clue.

      November 30, 2011 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
      • john doe

        why don't you learn spelling? It's universities not university's, you know, plural and not possessive...why am I wasting my time telling you this, you are illiterate anyway

        November 30, 2011 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
      • GinnyL

        JohnDoe, though you have added many angry, addled comments to this blog, you need to look twice at your grammar. Both you and angrysouther communicated your ideas and opinions. That is the basic objective of grammar and spelling. It drives me nuts, too, when spelling, the lack of correct sentence structure, and the misuse of capitalization are evident in a comment but if I'm able to grasp the idea or opinion the writer is trying to express, I can accept all but the worst offenders, thus replying to their opinions rather than their English abilities.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • crabman

      D U H

      November 30, 2011 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
  45. Albro

    Did Mr. Mendoza, Mr. Luna's brother, or anyone else in this family never consider BECOMING A LEGAL CITIZEN? Why is this out of the question for this population? clearly the gentleman in question was "unstable"!

    November 30, 2011 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
  46. guest

    Ask to Felipe Calderon and all the politicians from Latin American ......why the people left behind your countries ....

    November 30, 2011 at 8:45 am | Report abuse |
    • TomAmerican

      Maybe we should ask Felipe Calderon why nearly 5% (almost 1 in 20) of his country is living illegally in the United States?

      November 30, 2011 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  47. bob

    1 gone, 10,999,999 to go, either way no big deal.

    November 30, 2011 at 8:45 am | Report abuse |
  48. Trey

    And how did this illegal come in possession of a gun? ICE, ATF, BP, Chuck Norris & the T-Rangers! Where are you? This whole family should be investigated and shipped out if possible. They are a menace.

    November 30, 2011 at 8:14 am | Report abuse |
    • ditzylilduckie16

      While I do wonder how he came to possess a gun, I believe it is extremely ignorant of you to claim that the family is a menace due to a suicide that happened. That is the worst blanket statement and example of a prejudiced mindset I have ever heard. Something does need to be done to help the children who probably had no voice to coming here illegally. Many immigrants do not know the options available to them, so it is unfair to say this family is a menace. You should be ashamed of yourself.

      November 30, 2011 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
    • angrysouther

      Yes, they are as are all ILLEGALS. Geez, how is it so hard for CONgress to figure out those people are here in violation of OUR laws. The LAWS they swore to uphold. Remove ALL illegals. Make their landlords miserable, make their employers miserable, cut off all social services for non LEGAL residents and remove them. Our nations people need jobs, and we can no longer afford the social costs of illegals, so, simple solution is give them 30 days to get out, then round them up and return them to the border.

      November 30, 2011 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Ben

      Well, in simple terms, it's easy to get firearms in the US. Growing up we had a household that allowed, but didn't encourage, firearms. When he was 17, my brother was just showed up at home one day with an AK-47. Just talked to someone he knew, and bought it. Many states allow transactions directly between two private citizens, with almost no restrictions.

      And yes, I understand that the boy from the story wasn't a citizen, but the point is that as far as the law goes, there's not much to stop someone from stockpiling weapons from such transactions.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  49. James Marx

    Someone should have forwarded him a list of universities in Mexico.

    November 30, 2011 at 8:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      How do you expect him to go to a university in Mexico where entrance to public universities are only allowed to those who pass their tests, tests based on the curriculum taught in their schools. Private universities charge money that he probably would not have been able to pay.Much more, how would he adapt to a country he probably does not remember or know after being in the US for so long? Someone should have informed you about schooling and culture shock.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      How do you expect him to go to a university in Mexico where entrance to public universities are only allowed to those who pass their tests, tests based on the curriculum taught in their schools. Private universities charge money that he probably would not have been able to pay.Much more, how would he adapt to a country he probably does not remember or know after being in the US for so long? Someone should have informed you about schooling and culture shock

      November 30, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Report abuse |
  50. USA#1

    Being dead in the US is still better than being alive in Mexico.

    November 30, 2011 at 7:41 am | Report abuse |
  51. rOBERTO

    if your illegal – you shouldn't get any rights or benefits -Come to OUR country legally and it may work

    November 30, 2011 at 7:30 am | Report abuse |
  52. Auger

    I hate these fourms they wont let me post but parts of my comment for no apparent reason.

    November 30, 2011 at 7:12 am | Report abuse |
  53. Auger

    And last I heard they have these things called Visa's to let people live and work here temporarily while they get ready to gain citizenship. You can't tell me it's impossible it's just no one want to try because they know they don't have to just wait for congress to pass some idiotic sanctuary/amnesty law like the Dream Act.

    November 30, 2011 at 7:09 am | Report abuse |
    • angrysouther

      Visa's and such leave a paper trail and cost money, if they just come over illegally, they get subsidized housing, welfare, WIC, medicare, public education, government cell phone and OUR jobs. So, why bother spending their money when they can come illegally, live for nearly nothing and collect fat social benefits? Our stupid congress has made it easy for them to live well on welfare, and face ZERO penalty by failing to guard the borders.

      November 30, 2011 at 10:07 am | Report abuse |
  54. Auger

    CNN is apparently blocking all my comments now nice. Freedom of speech at it's finest.

    November 30, 2011 at 7:05 am | Report abuse |
    • TomAmerican

      You have to agree with the anti-Amierican CNN point of view to get posted.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Ben

        Actually, you just have to get around their filters. The comments above prove my point spectacularly.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ben

      Check your intended comments for possible "profanity" hidden in one of your other words. For instance, CNN won't allow any variation of the word c-i-r-c-u-m-s-t-a-n-c-e because of the letters c-u-m within the word. It also tends to moderate comments about things like t-i-t-l-e-s, because of the series of letters t-i-t.

      It's not moderating your ideas. They're just kinda lazy on their filters.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
  55. chicagorich

    While it is always a tragedy when someone decides to take there own life, that is not a sane basis for deciding to change our immigration rules. The character of a country is from its residents. While most all of us are either descendents of immigrants, or immigrants ourselves, there have been rules in place for those wishing to come to our country, and ultimately have families which become citizens as well. Since those immigrants, and all descendants of immigrants, legal or otherwise, who come here will have the same voting power as the children of all current citizens, they will have an impact on our sovereignty, and our control over the futur e of our country. It is for this reason that we should be careful who we allow to be citizens in our country, because ultimately their progeny will be helping to decide the fates of all of our children. We no longer have endless space and rescources, and we no longer allow those people whose character does nothing to support either themselves or their country to perish as a natural course, so we ought to be very careful about who we allow to enter into our club or our children and those who come after will be less likely to survive.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:48 am | Report abuse |
    • Wyllow61

      You said: and we no longer allow those people whose character does nothing to support either themselves or their country to perish as a natural course, so we ought to be very careful about who we allow to enter into our club or our children and those who come after will be less likely to survive.

      OMG where do you people come from? Seriously? wow.....

      November 30, 2011 at 6:53 am | Report abuse |
      • traser

        Do you do anything in the way of contributing to a discussion besides personal attacks?

        November 30, 2011 at 6:55 am | Report abuse |
  56. traser

    BS article. It's dubious that because of the DREAM Act not passing and the kid may or may not have a harder time attending college here that he committed suicide. It just doesn't make sense. Additionally, there are other options and he would likely be able to attend college in a number of places here and abroad. It does sound like the family and CNN decided to use this as propaganda to push an agenda. That said, anytime someone that young dies suddenly it's sad.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Wyllow61

      Personal attacks are an argument strategy....don't you watch Fox news? That's their whole mantra. You conveniently ignore my points and only comment on the questions I have for the person posting. The ideological positions of the many posters here who attack this young man and his family are a testament to the sad death of America. And that is not a personal attack, it is the truth. Read your history, what happened to "give me your tired, your poor"? And why the concern with Mexican immigrants? Why not the same concern with the thousands of illegal Canadians in this country? Maybe because they are white?

      November 30, 2011 at 7:01 am | Report abuse |
      • Dee

        Sad stories are a strategy as well, as seen here. Remember Ellis Island? There is a CORRECT way to enter, and then the illegal entry. Many families from war torn Eastern Block have come here legally and in short order have made millions. This is the American Dream, Not what illegals are calling The Dream Act. Sad this young man chose to kill himself instead of attempting to become a legal citizen.

        November 30, 2011 at 8:16 am | Report abuse |
    • CuriousG

      I agree, CNN is looking to blame someone for the death of this young boy for not passing the DREAM Act. I am sure that there are plenty of legal US citizens who want to go to college but for some reason can't go. Going to college is not a God given right. You may need to work for it.

      November 30, 2011 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
  57. 2 cents

    Shame on CNN for the political spin on a sad tragedy. Suicide is a very sad for all of those left behind. Who ever they may be or where ever they came from. I too really doubt it was related to the dream act and feel it was deeper than that. Extreme sensationalist will dig up any speck of relation to make it the big picture to their cause.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:41 am | Report abuse |
  58. Chris

    What a sad state of affairs when the death of a disturbed individual is used for political purposes. Clearly this had nothing to do with the Dream act. This boy obviously had serious emotional problems that had nothing to do with his desire to go to college. Perhaps his family is seeking to rationalize an act of insanity. Perhaps they don't want to face some cold harder truth. Regardless, this is nothing more than a sad story being used by Mr. Romo to push a political point of view. Disgusting.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Wyllow61

      As you are trying to rationalize that he didn't kill himself because he could not go to college. The very fact you question his reasons for killing himself demonstrates a lack of compassion and the rampant racism and xenophobia that has gripped the conservatives of this country. Who cares if he is here illegally? If he goes to college and becomes a tax paying citizen then isn't that a bonus to our country? I feel sorry for you. It is so much easier to hate others, isn't it? than to have compassion and give to someone. Don't give me crap about breaking the law. Do you speed when you get in the car? Well, then you are breaking the law too. Breaking the law is not the real reason, it is pure hatred of anyone with brown/black skin. White man's crisis.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:39 am | Report abuse |
      • traser

        Slow your roll. You're saying that if someone doesn't unconditionally accept the story as printed they racist hate bags. Personal attacks in lieu of reasonable debate are a sure sign that you have no argument.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Wyllows; you are obviously so committed to your ideology that you can't see anything clearly.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:45 am | Report abuse |
      • Wyllow61

        As are you. Admittedly, the article goes into a political commentary about the Dream Act, however, why would I doubt the reasons stated for why he killed himself? And are you also not seeing things clearly through your conservative ideology? Conservs only see profit...period. They do not see humans. No compassion, no compromise, and full of hypocrisy. Do you believe the conservative rhetoric that Fox and co. spew out? Then you are as ideologically infused as you say I am.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Bill Holston

      Shame on the writer for using the death of a unstable individual to further a political agenda. Citizenship is not a criteria for attending a public college in Texas.

      November 30, 2011 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
  59. Danielle

    The parents broke the law, and the child suffered for it. The child's death is a lesson from God to teach illegal aliens to follow the laws of a civilized society or be struck down with his wrath!!

    November 30, 2011 at 6:31 am | Report abuse |
    • fayqnaim

      I hope you're kidding/sarcastic. Because if you are, then you're kind of funny.
      But if you're serious...then follow in this kid's footsteps before you reproduce.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:38 am | Report abuse |
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        November 30, 2011 at 9:04 am | Report abuse |
  60. coldassets

    Blame the parents, they broke the law, their child couldn't handle it, whatever his reasons were, it's not OUR fault. Quit using this tradgedy to push your own agenda CNN.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:31 am | Report abuse |
    • jim

      I'm sorry the kid couldn't deal with reality. But, this seems more a callous move on the part of the Demoncratic [no, I didn't mis-spell it] party to obtan a phony bill passage thru guilting the populus. If the illegal families aren't happy with our country, then they should pack it up and go home! Sorry about that, but that's the way it is. Too bad, so sad, now go home.

      November 30, 2011 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  61. rexedie

    maybe we could consider that this was a kid..(only 18)...and maybe from his perspective there was no hope.... of course all the really tough know it alls will always blame anybody who isnt as rich...or smart as they are...
    what a lack of compassion displayed here.... america died the day bush and cheney were installed.... rest in peace

    November 30, 2011 at 6:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      Your lack of compassion for Americans is what's disturbing.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Wyllow61

      Very well put. The America I see today is not America anymore. This poor young man. His blood is on the hands of the hateful republicans who vomit their racism everytime they open their mouths. Every young person who wants to go to college should be able to go to college, I don't care if they are illegal or not. This country is sinking because of hatred of immigrants and corporate greed. It will not turn around until we bring back compassion, common sense and decency–all of which are gone today.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Danielle

        Here's a better option, why don't you move to mexico if you want to live around them? America already has a waaaaay over generous immigration policy of one million a year (which is more than all other countries combined).

        November 30, 2011 at 6:37 am | Report abuse |
    • traser

      Bush and Cheney and and and RUsh Limbaugh should be tried for murder! Re should jail all the Republikans!

      November 30, 2011 at 6:49 am | Report abuse |
  62. Auger

    Laziness to a lethal degree if you ask me all he had to do was take a citizenship test and get a green card like that would somehow be more difficult than the thousands of tests he would have taken in college if he had had the courage to get off his ass and live.

    November 30, 2011 at 6:00 am | Report abuse |
    • john

      actually is not as easy as just taking a test. it takes way more than that. the sorry part is that his parents were the ones that made the mistake of bringing him when they would not be able to help him.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:13 am | Report abuse |
      • Auger

        It can't be all that difficult when thousands of people from other countries come here and gain legal citizenship all the time. Ellis Island is still open to the world last I heard.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      @auger – really? You think you can just come here and take the citizenship test? Wow...Try read up on your own country's immigration laws before making claims like that. The act has practically no exceptions to allow adjustment in the US if you entered illegally. Even if he was brought here illegally by his parents when he was 2 years old and knows not better, he is out of luck. I don't advocate illegal immigration but the harsh reality of the current laws do not make sense.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:25 am | Report abuse |
    • C. Lewis

      The test is very hard. People who want to become citizens have to really want it. I am an American and after seeing and reading the test to become a citizens I am glad that I don't have to take it and I was a good student. I am sure this young man had other issues. Young people commit suicide every day. Sad.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Pinolera

      Obviously you aren't familiar with the laws of this country. If you are illegal you cannot get a green card much less a citizenship test to become a citizen. If ICE ever found out that he was illegal in this country it would be an automatic deportation to his country of origin. They don't care if you are 18 and barely a kid, out you go. I do agree that people need to enter one's country legally, but if you are here since age 3 and have no place else to go and all you know is here and you have been a model person for all your life and never been in trouble then why not be allowed to stay legally

      November 30, 2011 at 6:34 am | Report abuse |
  63. Jon

    Gimme a break, it's sad but he obviously had other reasons to kill himself. He was an illegal and didn't deserve any rights in this country until he was legal. Mexico is a disaster and we want all of them to come here illegally and get benefits?!? There is a reason behind Mexico's failures and it starts with their people.

    November 30, 2011 at 5:52 am | Report abuse |
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