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November 29th, 2011
02:04 PM ET

Family says undocumented student killed himself over fears he'd never go to college

By Rafael Romo, Senior Latin American Affairs Editor

(CNN) - Joaquin Luna was only 18. The senior at Juarez Lincoln High School in Mission, Texas, dreamed of going to college. But since he was in the country illegally, that was nearly impossible.

Luna was quickly losing hope of ever going to college, his family says. The Friday after Thanksgiving, Luna put on a suit, kissed his family members, went into the bathroom and shot himself in the head, according to family members.

"He didn't see no other way or no other option," his brother Diyra Mendoza told CNN affiliate KGBT.

Mendoza found the body after hearing the gunshot.

"As soon as I pulled him out to the kitchen, I could see the bullet hole and there was no movement, no signs of anything," Mendoza said. "He was gone."

Mendoza says the letters his brother left behind reveal his fears about being in the country illegally. He also was frustrated because the DREAM Act - an initiative that would legalize young immigrants who have been in the country for more than five years if they attend college or serve in the military - never passed.

It's estimated that the DREAM Act would benefit about 2 million young people. It failed by five votes in the Senate last December. A new push by Democrats in Congress this year also didn't go far.

Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, a Democrat, who has been pushing for the measure for a decade, testified at a congressional hearing in June. "The Dream Act would make America a stronger country by giving these talented immigrants the chance to fulfill their potential." Durbin said.

But Republican lawmakers call the bill "blanket amnesty" and have strongly opposed it. Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican, calls it "a band-aid and maybe worse, it would provide an incentive for future illegal immigration."

The DREAM Act was also a hot-potato issue in the November 22 CNN debate of Republican presidential candidates. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich spoke in favor of the DREAM Act. "I don't see any reason to punish somebody who came here at 3 years of age, but who wants to serve the United States of America," Gingrich said.

Mitt Romney agreed with Gingrich saying the he "would staple a green card to the diploma of anybody who's got a degree of math, science, master's degree, Ph.D. We want those brains in our country."

But Michele Bachmann denounced it, warning the measure would "offer taxpayer-subsidized benefits to illegal aliens. We need to move away from magnets not offer more."

Back in Texas, Mendoza is thinking of other young immigrants like his brother. "It's like all these kids that are here. They're all dependent on that DREAM Act to keep on studying," Mendoza said.

But with a Congress unable to reach a compromise to reduce the deficit and presidential elections less than a year away, the chances of any immigration bill being passed seem unlikely.

soundoff (1,898 Responses)
  1. Nice Try

    Oooooooooh I just realized this is a whining minorities' blog. The question is: WHY?

    November 30, 2011 at 5:52 am | Report abuse |
  2. Nice Try

    Ah the ole blame game. Nice try. No work.

    November 30, 2011 at 5:49 am | Report abuse |
  3. dscon

    CNN YOU LIE!
    No police spokesperson reference!
    Only name of supposed Bother!
    No parents name!
    Frikin LA RAZA TACTIC!
    All poster here are FOOLS!
    CNN FIRE this clown: Rafael Romo, Senior Latin American Affairs Editor
    Cnn Conspires again.

    November 30, 2011 at 5:47 am | Report abuse |
  4. sean green

    I can't begin to tell you how misleading this article is. Aside from the fact he is NOT barred from college, you can also gain a green card by signing up for the US armed forces and serving at least two years. This policy has been in place for decades.

    I hope CNN counts the hosting of this article as campaign contributions

    November 30, 2011 at 5:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Cherie

      Let him serve in the military and EARN his green card at the same time earning credit to help him go to college. Just letting someone go to college and getting a green card is a disgrace "we only want smart ones" Let all of the ones who want to remain prove America is THEIR country first by fighting for it.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:35 am | Report abuse |
  5. Ruby Gumshoe

    This young man;s blood is on the hands of Michele Bachmann and the other self-righteous, hypocritical republicans.

    November 30, 2011 at 5:26 am | Report abuse |
    • sunsudo

      This young mans blood in on his self, family and his country who cares less about him than you do.

      November 30, 2011 at 5:44 am | Report abuse |
    • mister s

      The blood is on the family member's hands that brought him here illegally.

      November 30, 2011 at 5:54 am | Report abuse |
    • B

      Boy you are a retard! This has nothing to do with politics except for Communist News Network's spin on it!

      November 30, 2011 at 6:56 am | Report abuse |
      • Wyllow61

        Do you even understand what communism is? If you did, you would understand that this country is closer to communism and fascism because of the radical conservative ideology than ever before in US history.

        November 30, 2011 at 7:06 am | Report abuse |
  6. Paul

    So are we supposed to feel bad because an ILLEGAL INVADER offed himself?
    Sorry, but he was a criminal, a thief and oh yeah...ILLEGAL.
    One less mouth to feed, one less person to give medical attention to, one less to educate.
    If we removed ALL illegals there would be NO DEFICIT.

    November 30, 2011 at 5:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Deann

      Yeah, we should know a thing or two about being ILEGAL INVADERS, since we have invaded other sovereign countries ourselves...

      November 30, 2011 at 5:19 am | Report abuse |
  7. Just.The.Facts

    this story is a big spin on this person's suicide. This is political to push political agenda. And it was national news recently that Rick Perry took a lot of heat from the other Republican candidates because Texas offers in-state college tuition for illegal aliens. This is political to push political agenda of amnesty (see what happens feel sorry for them give them amnesty) that's the response they want the public to do.

    November 30, 2011 at 4:38 am | Report abuse |
    • Olderbutwiser

      Mr. Facts, I do not appreciate your copy-and-pasting a line from my post a half hour earlier as if it were yours. If you are going to quote, at least use quotes. Your sentiments appear to be considerably different from mine.

      November 30, 2011 at 5:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Damien Tobin

      Since when is it a bad thing to remind people of the human faces and actual stories behind issues?

      November 30, 2011 at 5:48 am | Report abuse |
  8. Mexican't

    This is CNN ! Looking for motars to push their agenda now.

    November 30, 2011 at 4:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Kev

      What's a motar? Is that anything like a centaur?

      November 30, 2011 at 4:29 am | Report abuse |
    • dscon

      dscon

      CNN YOU LIE!
      No police spokesperson reference!
      Only name of supposed Bother!
      No parents name!
      Frikin LA RAZA TACTIC!
      All poster here are FOOLS!
      CNN FIRE this clown: Rafael Romo, Senior Latin American Affairs Editor
      Cnn Conspires again.

      November 30, 2011 at 5:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Julie H

      Motar? Seriously? Ever heard of a dictionary? Or perhaps Google?

      November 30, 2011 at 5:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Perhaps he means "mortar," though I didn't realize CNN was a religious movement.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Jake Jakerson

        Actually, pretty sure he meant martyr.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:33 am | Report abuse |
  9. Freddie

    Texas, California, New Mexico...all belong to Mexico anyway. The kid had as much right to stay as anyone else. I say there should be NO control across our borders-anyone should be free to come and work and benefit. Are we not a christian country and should love our neighbors? Only WHITES are against open immigration.

    November 30, 2011 at 4:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Jose Mendoza

      Youre a racist if you say only whites are against illegal immigration. I dont appreciate you implying that most Mexicans like myself are in favor of exploiting this country, it furthers the false idea that we are not hard working people. Try to become a citizen of Mexico or any central or south American country. They have much stricter immigration laws than the US does. Allowing open borders will make this country third world over night as that would require unlimited resources. Its a beautiful dream but it is simply not possible. Sorry to burst your bubble.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:20 am | Report abuse |
  10. Olderbutwiser

    While any suicide is sad, there is something not right about this article. It was national news recently that Rick Perry took a lot of heat from the other Republican candidates because Texas offers in-state college tuition for illegal aliens. This naturally implies that illegals such as Mr. Luna can and do attend colleges in Texas. So either Mr. Luna was sadly misinformed about his options or his suicide, like many other youths, was not about college. Perhaps advocates found a chance to grisly misuse his death to further their agenda

    November 30, 2011 at 4:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Jose Mendoza

      Sadly it seems CNN jumped on the opportunity to make a political statement by using the story of poor confused kid. Why didnt the article state that he could have attended college at in state tuition levels if indeed this is allowed in Texas? Certainly CNN has the resources to know this information.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:15 am | Report abuse |
  11. Diogeneskk

    Remove the illegals who are stealing American jobs or social benefits we 53% of the citizens fund. All our ancestors immigrated LEGALLY through Ellis Island. The began working in their teens and earned everything they received. It was not a hand out Nation back then. So one down 16,999,999 to go.

    November 30, 2011 at 3:36 am | Report abuse |
  12. hijack28

    I'm sorry to hear about the kid and my heartfelt condolences to the family and friends. However, the blame and responsibility I say should be placed squarely on the parents. If he were to have been brought into the country legally, like many others have done, this wouldn't have been the case, and more likely the self killing wouldn't have happened. As for CNN, I say "there you go again", shamefully trying to push an agenda by exploiting a tragedy. You guy are shameless. As matter of fact, that’s my opinion of Democrats in general. POS

    November 30, 2011 at 3:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Doug

      Seriously, how many times are you going to post this? We get it.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:18 am | Report abuse |
    • inga

      With all the other news options on the internet, why are you here? You are part of the problem, all judgment, criticism, negativity. No, no, no. Yep, sounds like a repug POS.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:25 am | Report abuse |
  13. d-bart

    I am a 7th generation American Citizen and I am now going to kill myself. It seems Illegal Aliens have more rights and politicians providing for them then the American Citizens who actually pay the politicians salaries. It was a nice life while it lasted. I am sure there won't be much fuss love ya mom.

    November 30, 2011 at 3:06 am | Report abuse |
    • I know what you mean

      Oh quit your teasing. See you back here tomorrow. Same time?

      November 30, 2011 at 3:18 am | Report abuse |
  14. hijack28

    I'm sorry to hear about the kid and my heart felt condolences to the family and friends. However, the blame and responsibility I say should be placed squarly on the parents. If he were to have been brought into the country leagally, like many others have done, this wouldn't have been tha case, and more ikely the self killing wouldn't have happened. As for CNN, I say "there you go again", shamefully trying to push an agenda by exploiting a tragedy. You guy are shamless. As matter of fact, thats my opinion of Democrats in general. POS

    November 30, 2011 at 3:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Shawn

      While I agree with your points on immigration, don't fault CNN for reporting a story, it happened. Of all the news broadcasters, I find them to be the most unbiased. If you don't like it, and you want to hear stories that only supports your opinions, then you should visit. http://www.foxnews.com. You'll certainly get a one sided view there.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:11 am | Report abuse |
  15. burndisco

    Suicide is never about getting into college, or getting the girl, or sad about losing a job. Suicide is not the result of one thing. There is a mental illness behind it. Suicide is an horrible end to severe mental difficulties.

    November 30, 2011 at 3:02 am | Report abuse |
  16. Carrie

    Why do we even bother with immigration laws? Let's just open the borders up and take everybody. Now, is this boy's family going to be deported because we know they're illegal.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Concerned

      This is a heartless and crass statement.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:36 am | Report abuse |
  17. joey

    if he shot himself in the head, there is allot more going on there than what we are reading

    November 30, 2011 at 2:55 am | Report abuse |
  18. hijack28

    I'm sorry to hear about the kid, but I put the balme and responsibility squarly on the parents. If he were brought into the country leagally, like many other people do, this wouldn't have been tha case and more ikely the selk killing wouldn't have happened. As for CNN I say "there you go again" trying to push an agenda by exploiting a tragedy. You guy are shamless. As matter of fact, thats my opinion of Democrats in general.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:52 am | Report abuse |
  19. Jose

    What was an illegal alien doing with a gun in this United States? Just another example of how the illegal alien community has no respect for American laws. He was a Mexican national, he had every right to whatever educational benefits that the Mexican government, (ran by Mexicans) provides for him, but he has no right to ask a nation of law-abiding U.S. taxpayers to foot the bill for his education, just because he broke our immigration laws while he was young.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:50 am | Report abuse |
    • guitarra

      ignorant!! u'd better study, what? study? you can't 'cause u have bird brain.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:02 am | Report abuse |
    • gutarra

      jackazz!! u'd better study. study? what? you have bird brain.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:04 am | Report abuse |
  20. jorge

    perhaps is better that he is not around here anymore so he does not have to deal with our disgusting human ways. we really suck! people suck!

    November 30, 2011 at 2:43 am | Report abuse |
  21. Jose

    There you go CNN, why don't you also stress the need to give amnesty to everyone here illegally, also? This story is just a bunch of hogwash, written with the sole intent on making U.S. citzens feel that they should feel sorry for everyone whom is not like them, and we should import all of the world's poverty right here to our own soil.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:36 am | Report abuse |
  22. Brandon

    Half of you people are so ignorant and have absolutely no sense of perspective or value for the rights and opportunities that you did nothing but be born in a certain piece of land to have, it's useless even carrying a debate with you.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Jose Mendoza

      did you go to school for free? I didnt and Im an American citizen. Why should he get to go for free? I think you dont know what youre talking about. I know what Mexico is about, I was born there. Its people like you who have a false sense of kindness that is really just naive that will ruin this country. We cant afford to send everyone to college for free. It sounds nice but you dont work for free and neither to good college professors.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Andres

        where does it say anything about "free" education? i also paid for my schooling, what's to say that this young man wasn't going to do so as well. he wanted the opportunity to be able to attend school. Nowhere does it say that he wanted it to be paid for as well.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:44 am | Report abuse |
      • Heid Theba

        I don't know where you cam up with the absurd idea that the DREAM Act provides free college education for illegal immigrants – at best it would have granted them in-state tuition levels, but at the discretion of the individual states themselves (http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/dream/dream-bills-summary-2011-05.pdf). You seem to be reinforcing the maxim that most prejudice is indeed rooted in ignorance.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:52 am | Report abuse |
    • realmike

      Can't support the whole world. Sorry. That is reality. There are only so many people working in the U.S. and if everyone who sneaks across the border is given citizenship and/or benefits the country would go broke very quickly. ......Maybe we are already feeling the effects.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Wayne

      REALLY BRANDON !
      So tell me how many illegals do you know served in the military and came back home disabled, law breakers are just that.......LAW BREAKERS...and they do effect every American that does live here, go back and wait your turn.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:49 am | Report abuse |
  23. AmericanSam

    While I have been incensed by many of the extremely insensitive comments, I will admit that suicide is rarely as simple as this story suggests it is. While this may have been a result of the failure of the DREAM Act to pass, I imagine there were other emotional factors at play. And I'm sorry that there were. It's incredibly sad. I do hope the DREAM Act will pass, whether or not that was the reason he finally decided to take his own life.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:28 am | Report abuse |
    • Jose Mendoza

      we are all sad that he killed himself but I dont think even you believe he killed himself because the dream act didnt pass meaning he gets to go to college for free. Do you support all people going to college for free or just illegals? If it passes and then American kids start killing themselves because they have to pay for themselves and the illegals will you then support free college for everyone? This kids suicide had NOTHING to do with college, the dream act, or any other political matter. He was depressed and couldnt hang. Period. End of story and end of propaganda lie.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
      • Heid Theba

        I don't know where you came up with the absurd idea that the DREAM Act provides free college education for illegal immigrants – at best it would have granted them in-state tuition levels, but at the discretion of the individual states themselves (http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/dream/dream-bills-summary-2011-05.pdf). You seem to be reinforcing the maxim that most prejudice is indeed rooted in ignorance.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:53 am | Report abuse |
    • jacksays

      why would u want the DREAM act to pass? there is already a process for immigrants to enter this country legally. why should we reward those who are blatantly bypassing it?

      November 30, 2011 at 6:14 am | Report abuse |
  24. Question

    So...by killing himself selfishly, because he couldnt get into college , we should all feel sorry for him?!? Because he is an illegal immagrate, he is helpless? College doesnt even garantee you a job..

    November 30, 2011 at 2:26 am | Report abuse |
    • deathbecomesus

      don't forget to be philosophically consistent (and cold) when/if someone you know kills them self for reasons you don't quite get.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:30 am | Report abuse |
      • CT

        Regardless of the reasons, suicide is an act of a selfish person who doesn't care about the people he/she leaves behind. I know, I've had a loved one kill himself and I will never believe he was anything but selfish. This story is just a pathetic attempt to put a political spin on a selfish act committed by someone who was here ILLEGALLY while enjoying a better life than many legal American citizens.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:54 am | Report abuse |
  25. danmthatsux

    Poor kid didn't know all the facts.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:25 am | Report abuse |
    • CHANGOMANGO

      Oh believe me, when it comes to cheating the system, illegal aliens KNOW all the facts.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:29 am | Report abuse |
    • deathbecomesus

      CHANGOMANGO, how has your life's prospects been so heinously curtailed by illegal immigrants? If you're an American citizen and they're taking all those landscaping, construction and kitchen jobs you want might I suggest getting a high school diploma?

      November 30, 2011 at 2:35 am | Report abuse |
      • CT

        And how is a high school diploma going to help when we're letting the ILLEGALS go to college instead of sending them back to the country they belong to. Surely being so intelligent, you know what ILLEGAL means, right? Why are you so sympathetic to criminals who broke the law to come and live here?

        November 30, 2011 at 2:56 am | Report abuse |
      • John

        @ CT... It's obvious you are unable to empathize. I am assuming you already live in the U.S. and you are a U.S. citizen and are able to enjoy the freedoms and opportunities the U.S. offers. Are you so unsympathetic to someone wanting a better life for themselves or their family; in other words what the U.S. has to offer? Are they really criminals? Is it a crime to want a better life?

        November 30, 2011 at 5:23 am | Report abuse |
      • Auger

        I'm only sympathetic to people who are willing to get off their lazy asses and make their own life better. If they want the freedoms and rights of a U.S. Citizen it's real REAL easy to take a citizenship test and come into this country legally thousands of people from other countries do it everyday. It seems to me that everyone in Mexico is too damn lazy to do things the right way and get a green card legally. All these federal plans like the Dream Act just encourage people to jump the border illegally and deal with the consequences later. It's just lazy and disrespectful to our country.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:08 am | Report abuse |
      • jacksays

        @auger

        SPOT ON! you nailed it right there, 1000%. thank you!

        November 30, 2011 at 6:16 am | Report abuse |
  26. Jose Mendoza

    No college turns people down based on citizenship. He was upset because the American tax payers wouldnt foot the bill but they didnt foot my bill either and Im American. So what? He was selfish and thought he deserved to have everyone pay for him and since he didnt get his way he said screw it. Now we all have to hear this propaganda but lets be clear, he could go to any college that he could afford. Im a legal American from Mexico, Im tired of these people making my brothers and sisters look lazy.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:24 am | Report abuse |
    • AmericanSam

      He was 18 and lonely. Get off your high horse. It's great that you made it here and are doing well, but to be surrounded by people who are going to college and to not get to go yourself when you really want to has got to be a let down. It may or may not have been the reason he took his life, but it's still not quite right. I get access to scholarships simply by being born in America. It's kind of... weird for it to be that way. The landmass I was born on determined the money I'd get for college. Hmm. Not that I'm not very grateful. I just wish he could have had some help, too.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:31 am | Report abuse |
      • CT

        So does that mean we can expect a rash of American kids to start killing themselves? Because there are thousands of American kids that won't get to go to college because their parents can't afford it. Stop making excuses for this kid. He couldn't cope with whatever his problems were and he took the easy way out.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Jose Mendoza

        who says I made it and am doing well? I live month to month and struggle on a daily basis to provide for my family. I am not under the illusion that life is free and that this country owes me anything. There is no other country that has so many beautiful people of so many different races and religions.

        November 30, 2011 at 4:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Airlordz

      I have a simple word for you. Buffon!

      November 30, 2011 at 3:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Wehndalesta

        Perhaps you meant buffoon. Apparently, English isn't as simple for you!

        November 30, 2011 at 3:59 am | Report abuse |
      • coldassets

        That's LEGAL BUFFOON to you.

        November 30, 2011 at 4:02 am | Report abuse |
  27. deathbecomesus

    This is sad and unfortunate, first of all. Secondly, I know how reactionary and stupid most people are in our society are so I'm not even going to attempt to interject my opinions on the sociological (i.e. cultural and economic) aspect of this tragedy, everyone else will do that. However, as a man who has struggled with suicide for a very long time I can provide one insightful truth to those who will listen, and that is: only the the simple and/or deceitful will spread the lie that this kid's suicide is as simple as the headline suggests. I will pray for this young man tonight because I fully understand how a person would want to end his/her life and the reason is never singular. Shame on the media–the stupid, stupid media–for turning this kid's death into a shallow political peace. I hate the media almost as much as I've hated myself at times; sorrow and despair is not so simple as these communications majors portray, but then they have to get paid I guess.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Wayne

      Dear Deathbecomesus,
      A very good felt post from the heart, I am saddened by anyone takeing there life, it effects those around them for the rest of there lives....mostley I want to say please dont dwell of taking your life....talk to a friend and find out how much others would help...dont just lock it away in your heart......please.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Geoff A.

      CT, great comment above!! Look's like CNN didn't allow for a REPLY (wonder why?) to your above comment so I needed to make it under someone else. I'm all for immigration if these folks are coming to the US to work hard and make a "honest" living for themselves. Way too many people are coming here to live off the system which really is us legal tax payers paying for them while we pay for ourselves and our own families. It is said our own government recognizes this but chooses to do nothing. What is the real motive here should be the question.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:24 am | Report abuse |
  28. Kelly

    First and foremost, my condolences to the family who have lost a son and a brother. Second, the callous comments here say something about the state of America's soul and quite frankly, it's a cesspool. This isn't a story about immigration. It's a story about an obviously depressed young soul who didn't get the help he so obviously needed. Finally, yes, of course there was more going on here than not being able to attend college. There is ALWAYS something more going on with suicide. CNN is reporting what his family says and what this poor boy himself said in his letters. There is no hidden agenda. For those of you here who are trying to turn a tragedy into a political ad – no matter which side you support – you should feel shame, but of course you don't. Perhaps when tragedy visits your own doorstep you'll learn compassion and humility.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:20 am | Report abuse |
    • CHANGOMANGO

      Tragedy already visited my doorstep at the hands of an illegal alien. Millions of Americans had tragedy visit their doorsteps at the hands of illegal aliens!

      November 30, 2011 at 2:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Good Comment.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Thrasymachus

      Please kelly, get off your high horse. How do you know there was no agenda behind this article? Did you write this article; were you there when this article was written; and how do you know what the writers intentions were? Illegals commiting suicide over college? There are millions of Americans citizens in our country without the means to obtain a formal college education and you don't see them, hopefully, commiting suicide over it. I have no problem having my tax money pay for education, in fact I support it; I do, however, have an unequivocal objection to channeling our national funds to educate, house, and medicate illegals, when many Americans will have to pay for it, not to mention, many Americans themselves do not have the benefits themselves. Next time you make such judgemental accusations, look in teh mirror and ask yourselve if you are willing to pay for my kids education before your own. So don't you dare preach to others about having to have tragedy to learn humility and compassion as you know nothing about anyone here, because there are plenty of people with compassion, we just don't go about it irresponsibly.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:02 am | Report abuse |
    • john

      very good comment.. at the end of the day it was a PERSON, a KID, somebody's LOVED one.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:20 am | Report abuse |
    • True

      You said it best, Thanks....

      November 30, 2011 at 8:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      I suppose you believe CNN would have ran this story if it had been about a middle-class white kid who decided to shoot himself because he didn't get accepted to the college he wanted to attend? I am sure that story plays out every year around admissions time, but CNN never runs that one because it has no direct tie to a political agenda. This story is a clear effort to use this kid's suicide as justification for supporting a social agenda to provide increased government spending to support people who do not respect laws. No other country would consider using its tax revenues to support illegal aliens at the expense of citizens.

      November 30, 2011 at 8:48 am | Report abuse |
  29. Larry

    The kid didn't kill himself because he couldn't go to college. He killed himself because of an obvious mental disorder, commonly referred to as depression.

    Furthermore, it is plainly obvious that his entire family is here illegally. This is a choice that was made by the parents and perhaps even the children.

    Stop the pro-illegal commentary CNN. At least report SOME of the facts:
    1) He could go to any college.
    2) He would have to pay for it.
    3) I assume that his grades did not offer him the opportunity to get a scholarship.
    4) Why no mention of where he got the gun? Was he also involved in gang activity? Any family members is a gang?

    It is very sad that ANYONE would resort to suicide as an answer. But to be honest, I have not heard of or read about any non-illegal immigrant who has committed suicide due to their chances in life.

    My sincere condolences to the family. Now, please, return to where you belong, because the US isn't working out for you.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Brandon

      You hear gun and Hispanic kid in the same sentence and immediately relate to gang activity? People have guns, all kinds of people, whether it be for protection or to hunt or whatever the case. It doesn't mean they are active crime members, get past your own prejudices.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:19 am | Report abuse |
  30. MEME

    Honestly, some of you are monsters. Illegal immigrants who come and strive to success and education DESERVE to be here more than maybe half the teens of America who cry for Justin Beiber's bottle of pee and half the adults that are don't strive nearly as hard. Thing is, you're just hurting yourself. Y'know maybe one of these illegal immigrants would be the ones performing surgery to keep you alive.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Larry

      Sorry buddy, but that isn't even remotely true. NO illegal immigrant, regardless of what they do, DESERVES to be in this country. Absolutely, without a doubt, they do not belong here.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:13 am | Report abuse |
      • thebluelion

        America was founded by tax-dodging illegal immigrants you putz. How far back can you trace your bloodline? Crack a book some time. My friend crossed illegally, is now a citizen, and is a damned hard worker. I'm glad you aren't in charge and never will be.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:39 am | Report abuse |
      • pogojo

        sure back in 1492 everyone was an immigrent, but 500 years later we have a country with established laws, they need to be followed.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:43 am | Report abuse |
    • CHANGOMANGO

      No, they DESERVE to be in their countries!

      November 30, 2011 at 2:15 am | Report abuse |
      • in agreement

        THIS INCLUDES ALL ILLEGAL EUROPEANS

        November 30, 2011 at 3:20 am | Report abuse |
    • hawaiiduude

      we all have a right to pursue happiness not a right to happiness. He deserves what ever he did to himself.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:18 am | Report abuse |
    • pogojo

      American children DESERVE success and education, it is what we pay taxes for, illegals deserve to go back to where they came from.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Thrasymachus

      It is not up to you to decide who deserves what in the United States. How worthless our youths are is our problem, and is our responsibility to resolve. Illegals have no say in the internal affairs of the United States.

      November 30, 2011 at 3:11 am | Report abuse |
    • jacksays

      i've yet to read a comment that says they don't want immigrants, this nation was built of them, by them, and for them. what you see objection to (and will continue to see objection to) is ILLEGALS. those are people who sneak into the country, bypassing the process already in place, and suck off the teet of the American people.

      this young man deserved to go to college – after following the process to become a LEGAL citizen of this country. why didn't he do that? was he a coward? suicide is a very cowardice act in itself, perhaps that's the case. we will never really know.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:21 am | Report abuse |
  31. AmericanSam

    How about we import and educate good people and deport all the jerks? Like most of the people commenting on this page.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Jose Mendoza

      Sam, you dont believe that he was stupid enough to kill himself because he thought he may not be able to go to college do you? Lots of illegals go to college but many Americans dont go because they cant afford it. Nobody kills themselves because they cant go to college and anybody that stupid wouldnt get into college anyway. Stop defending the lie.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:14 am | Report abuse |
    • davy

      Be careful ole AmericanSam. you would be the first to go.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:17 am | Report abuse |
      • AmericanSam

        Ha how'd you figure? I have the decency to feel bad when someone kills him or herself. Above your post there's someone talking about how he's stupid if he actually killed himself over college. Many posts below people are talking about how the children are still to blame and should go back "home," which doesn't always make sense because their country of origin may not have really been a home as far back as they can remember. We have to remember that these people are human. I'm human. You're human. We're all in this together. And if you don't get it and can't feel for someone who killed himself, then yeah, I'd say you were a jerk.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Kim

      Sam: Thank you for being a voice of reason. And I wish we could export more than a few jerks.

      November 30, 2011 at 5:33 am | Report abuse |
    • woodrow

      It would be better for everyone if you volunteered to leave. Maybe you can start an 'unoccupy' movement.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:22 am | Report abuse |
  32. Joe Murphy

    His reckless parents should be ashamed of themselves. Who would criminalize their child by sneaking them into another country? These people are awful.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
    • AmericanSam

      Maybe if they lived in a country where drug cartels murder thousands and poverty is the way of life then coming to a country with ignorant rednecks like you who spew hatred all over them seems like the better option? I don't know.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Larry

        I strongly suggest that you change your handle to ANTI-AmericanSam.

        Anyone who enters this country illegally doesn't deserve to be here. Your weak argument about how bad it is in Mexico is so lame. Especially considering the fact the the most dangerous gang in this country is FROM Mexico and comprises of mostly illegal immigrants FROM Mexico.

        They aren't fixing the problems in their country, they are spreading them to ours.

        You are completely clueless.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:17 am | Report abuse |
      • CHANGOMANGO

        Well if we're "a country with ignorant rednecks like who spew hatred" maybe Mexicans would be better served to turn into "a country with ignorant rednecks like you who spew hatred".

        American rednecks build this country, Mexicans build Mexico, which country do YOU want to live in?

        November 30, 2011 at 2:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Afa13

      They wanted to offer him a better life and much more opportunities, does that not seem obvious?

      November 30, 2011 at 2:11 am | Report abuse |
  33. Ai

    What a way to turn one suicide into propaganda! How about this story: a kid in some remote country commits a suicide because he applied for a US green card and was afraid to receive rejection. Morale of the story: let's forget about the law and just hand out U.S. citizenship to whoever asks.

    November 30, 2011 at 2:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Agree

      I agree... sad story, but even more sad that it is used as propaganda..

      November 30, 2011 at 2:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Question

      I agree

      November 30, 2011 at 2:29 am | Report abuse |
  34. Ben Zalman

    Something is very wrong with this propaganda story. This is meant to make people feel sorry and then let people cross the border illegally. The truth is that people dont kill themselves because they cant go to college. I didn't go to college because my parents couldn't afford it. Its no reason to kill yourself and had I killed myself I doubt CNN would have cared one bit! Clearly something else was going on here because this is extremely irrational reaction to not going to college. Why didn't the parents let him know there are other routes to take? Shame on CNN for posting such blatant propaganda and assuming that all of a sudden people kill themselves over not going to college.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:55 am | Report abuse |
    • CHANGOMANGO

      He CAN go to college in this country, nothing was stopping him! There are perhaps thousands of illegal aliens in our universities. This story just doesn't jive, more pro-illegal propaganda from CNN.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Milan

      True.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Aloisae

      Especially given that in Texas (which according to this story is where this teenager lived), illegal immigrants attending high school there can a) go to college there, b) get in state tuition at state colleges/universities, and c) are eligible for various other forms of state financial aid.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Jose Mendoza

      He killed himself because he was depressed over the same things every other teen is depressed about. He didnt like his parents, couldnt get the girl he wanted and was never taught proper values. Of course he didnt want to face his weakness so he decided to "blame the man". Whats funny is he probably went to free public school his whole life anyway and as others point out he could have gone to school if he wanted to. CNN has an interest making it look like this depressed kid was so nice and killed himself because of the mean country that brought him as far as it did. Im thankful I live here and Im here legally. Im an American and I remember the day my parents became citizens. Like Ben said, nobody kills themselves because they cant go to college, in fact most people I know couldn't go. This story is a gimmick.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:08 am | Report abuse |
  35. Mags

    Many people on here are proposing the argument that "oh well he was just a kid" or "it was not his choice to be brought here". This is a flawed argument, while even i think it's extremely unfair, there needs to be consequences for people (and their families) that break the law. People (the parents) need to realize that their actions are going to have a deep and profound effect on not only their lives but also on the lives of their children. Im sorry, but just because one was a child at the time ... is not a valid reason to take a spot away from an American citizen (born here or legal immigrant) at a University.

    It may have been his parents that brought him here in the first place ..but this does not change the fact that he was still brought here illegally. If his parents wanted the best for him and his future they should have done things right in the first place. Thats what mine did!

    November 30, 2011 at 1:53 am | Report abuse |
  36. CHANGOMANGO

    LOL, LOL, LOL, Mexico is such a hell hole that this moron choose death rather than to return to his stinking country and seek opportunities there!

    November 30, 2011 at 1:49 am | Report abuse |
  37. Really, Amerikkka, Really?!?

    if i remember my history correctly, practically everyone in america (besides our natives) are immigrants or children from immigrants. a lot of the original settlers came over illegally as well and it was ok for them to do it? it was ok for them to leave desperation and poverty to come to a land where they had a chance to better themselves? why is it not ok for others to pursue that same dream?
    what does it say on the statue of liberty..."Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"? does this mean only if you have the right skin color? it cannot mean if you have enough money because it states clearly, "...your poor...". why are we going to deny people the privileges that our forefathers had?

    November 30, 2011 at 1:47 am | Report abuse |
    • CHANGOMANGO

      Here's another idiot blaming racism on EVERYTHING. Funny how millions of illegal immigrants are dying to come to our racist country. Funny how millions of illegal immigrants return over and over again when deported live in our racist country. Funny how millions of illegal immigrants fight tooth and nail to stay in our racist country when ordered out. We are the world most ethnically diverse country in the world! We take in over half of the worlds immigrants every year! Mexico, like all of the Americas, had the same opportunities to build and create a country like ours and Canada, they didn't and couldn't for a reason.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:57 am | Report abuse |
      • AmericanSam

        Well racism was the cause of a lot of problems, friend.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Larry

      You do NOT remember history correctly. Please read up on Ellis Island, you know that place where people tried to enter the country. No all were allowed to do so and were sent back to where they came from. Those who were allowed to enter had to register. That is why "Entry without inspection" is a crime.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:20 am | Report abuse |
    • sonomamama

      Our forefathers built this country with their own blood, sweat, and tears. They didn't get hand-outs from the Queen. Diversity is wonderful, but I'm tired of paying for illegal immigrants to have 8 "anchor babies" in our local hospital, at tax-payers expense, so that they can stay in the United States and get free medical care, food stamps, and now a free college education? MY kids didn't get one, and my roots go right back to the beginnings of this country. That does nothing to build our country. It drains and depletes what rightfully belongs to all legal Americans, no matter their color or country of origin. Legal immigrants, another story altogether. Welcome, one and all.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:21 am | Report abuse |
    • coldassets

      We're not denying anyone anything. What part of LEGAL and ILLEGAL do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND????? you want a better life, do it by the law. If you're not law abiding, we don't want you here. If it's that important for them to have a better life, why don't they do something about it in their own country??? We fought civil wars and made laws that made our country great, they could do the same. But it's easier to come here. And how have they hurt me? When they are willing to work under the table doing a union job, then they put my union brothers out of a job. When they do the landscaping and all the other entry level jobs, where do my kids get their first jobs? I have a friend from the Phillipines, she did it legally, it took a little time and a chunk of money, but she is a citizen and I don't deny her any benefit of being a citizen....she did it the RIGHT way!!!!!

      November 30, 2011 at 3:52 am | Report abuse |
  38. Aloisae

    Under Texas law, not only can high school students there who are illegal immigrants go on to attend college, they are even eligible for in state tuition rates at state colleges/universities and are also eligible for various other forms of financial aid coming out of taxpayer dollars. Whatever reasons this teenager killed himself for, it was not because he was barred from college due to his immigration status.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
  39. AgentSTS

    A very sad story, but it does not change my opinions against catering to illegals. If anyone is to blame it is the parents for selfishly subjecting their child to growing up illegal... if they had entered this country in the right way then this never would have been an issue.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:35 am | Report abuse |
  40. william

    I feel all the ranting on this page is stupid. The most important thing here is the kid was here illegally and everyone is talking about illegals paying taxes or should be given a chance to be legal here. Whats wrong with all the people on here??? This family along with thousand more families are breaking the law by crossing the border without a visa. Before anyone speaks up and calls mi a bigot (thats the main card used) I am american but have been living in latin america for 15 years now. I have lived in all latin countries except a few. I have children that are latin and love latin people. I speak spanish and have totally changed my life living down here. I do understand the suffering in the countries south of the border. I also understand wanting to give more to your children. But doing it by breaking the law of another country then standing in the streets picketing for the change of immigration policy should not be accepted. My better half applied and got her visa correctly. Why should someone be allowed to break the law and then be given all this free stuff??? Allowed to go to school ect??? I am sorry but I feel if you break the law you should be deported and never allowed to come into USA. Cutting to the front of the line shouldnt be rewarded.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
    • AmericanSam

      But this is a kid we're talking about. A kid who just wanted to go to college. Don't you get it? It's different with children, as it should be. This kid was in the United States. Not by choice. So why not just be a good and just country and allow the kid to go to college? Why not? To prove a point? To show that we "stand up to those mean immigrants" or something like that?

      November 30, 2011 at 1:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Beth Volz

        In the state of Texas if a student graduates from a Texas public high school they are eligible to go to college in the state of Texas, there is even financial aid from the state of Texas that will cover the costs if you are low income, the students do not need to be in Texas legally. They are inelible for federal financial aid but not Texas state financial aid. Not being able to go to college was not this boy's problem in the state of Texas.

        November 30, 2011 at 1:42 am | Report abuse |
      • CHANGOMANGO

        Hey moron, he was in this country by choice! And we were generous enough to provide him with at least 12 years of public education AND he CAN go to college in this country, in many states he's eligible to pay in state tuition.

        November 30, 2011 at 1:44 am | Report abuse |
    • Chloe

      He was brought here by his parents when he was young, a child does not just mosey of the border on their own. With his own autonomy however, he educated himself and was striving to be someone unlike most of the youth born here today. Why should he be punished for that?

      November 30, 2011 at 1:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      Let's be honest here, you so called Latin lover. What would you have done if your parents told you when you were 3 years old that they were moving to France? Would you have verified they were doing it the right way? I don't care how many Latin kids you have, if you think that your kids should be punished 10 or 15 years from now for some crime you committed today, then something is really wrong with you.
      This whole immigration debate and just plain hate against these people has made Americans forget our core values. We never in this country considered the son or daughter of a felon to be a felon too, we don't punish people for the crimes of their parents, so why immigration offenses are any different?

      November 30, 2011 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
    • LATIN LOVER

      However, the USA not only breaks the law when invading countries but also kill people and steal the resources. IF that would not be the case, USA citizens would starve and cross other countries' borders illegally.
      Therefore, tell the USA not to steal our resources so we would be at peace at home. The history of the USA is based on the illegal invasion of "pilgrims" and genocide against native americans.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
  41. AmericanSam

    Weird how Republicans get around doing good things by calling them "band-aids." "Oh, you're bleeding. A band-aid won't do. We should just amputate."

    November 30, 2011 at 1:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Haifever

      Completely different issue if the 'bleeding' is causing the rest of the body to die off. I'd rather have them cut off the bleed entirely to save everything else the bleeders are taking with them as they freeload, thankyouverymuch.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
      • AmericanSam

        You'rewelcomeverymuch. It's just the whole strategy. Call a good thing a band-aid so it becomes a bad thing. It's an attempt to control how you think. The Dream Act would be a blessing for many children who would really appreciate the chance to go to college. I don't get where the band-aid comes into it.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:07 am | Report abuse |
      • jacksays

        @AmericanSam

        there's already a way for those very kids to attend our colleges: become a US citizen using the process already in place. it's worked for millions already, it will work for millions more.

        November 30, 2011 at 6:24 am | Report abuse |
  42. Bosque County

    The issue most ignored is that for every illegal alien in college, there is a legal US resident that isn't. And that legal resident is most likely Latino or African American. We simply must eliminate the poverty in this country before we tackle the poor in our neighboring nations.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      Well, most of the kids that would benefit from the dream act came here when they were little kids, so they are part of the poverty of this country, or they will be if they cannot get educated.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:34 am | Report abuse |
  43. Pete

    It's saddens me that this kid chose to take his life, but the truth is there were many other options available.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:20 am | Report abuse |
  44. in Seatttle

    Funny thing is that he'd be American enough to execute in the state of Texas and international protocols wouldn't apply.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:19 am | Report abuse |
    • william

      If he committed an offense justifying execution yes I guess he would get the death penalty. What does that have to do with someone being here illegal??? Do you think is someone illegal killed or raped a women they should just be sent home??? Oh because they broke the law sneaking into the country then broke the law deserving the death penalty. So just send them home because there not legal??? Thats stupid. Why would you even write that???

      November 30, 2011 at 1:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Chloe

        Hey William...

        http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-administration-seeks-halt-texas-execution-mexican-national-humberto-leal-garcia-article-1.157087#ixzz1RFGS1QiR

        Go read that article.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:03 am | Report abuse |
  45. Robert Nor

    I came to America as an adult with $24.00 in my pocket and no english. I worked my assoff to make something out of myself and go to collage. Currently I am enrolled in an NBA program at age 49. What the hell is your excuse people. This article is either a propaganda for illegals or a stupid family using their kids death as a vehicle. there are ways to get around being illegal. if you want to go to college you can. Stop using a lame excuse and blame the Government. I feel for your family but for you to say, he killed himself because he thought he could not go to college is just not jiving with me. IT'S A LIE!

    November 30, 2011 at 1:15 am | Report abuse |
    • jg

      an nba program? uhh, it's an mba program. are u sure ur in one?

      November 30, 2011 at 1:25 am | Report abuse |
  46. Tammy Lambert, Arizona

    Why couldn't Joaquin experience some sort of Dream act in Mexico. Millions of immigrants coming to the US for a better life? I Why not stand up in Mexico and take it back, create a better life there. The millions coming across the border should take take action, like they have in the middle east. Take back their own country.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:12 am | Report abuse |
  47. Bob

    This is Texas again, right? The irony here is that the illegal immigrants want to become educated people and the politicians don't.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      You are weak and foolish.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:13 am | Report abuse |
      • Ted

        Sad but true. I don't support illegals, but there are those few illegals that deserve an education than some of our current students. They'll know who Kim Kardashian is but probably won't know what country we fought during the revolutionary war.

        November 30, 2011 at 1:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Chloe

      Very true..."oops".

      November 30, 2011 at 1:19 am | Report abuse |
    • TexMan

      What part of ILLEGAL ALIEN do you not comprehend? Round them all up and deport them ASAP.

      But, this story is a crock of BS. Texas allows any illegal alien student who has been in the state for 5 years to have in state tuition and state aid. That is despite the fact that the children of Texas US citizens who have paid school taxes for years may not qualify for the same aid. That is the travesty here.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:56 am | Report abuse |
    • CHANGOMANGO

      Educated for what? So they can work to legalize their families and work to the detriment of our country?

      November 30, 2011 at 2:01 am | Report abuse |
  48. Omni

    In 36 years just think what this planet might look like. This child would have been 54,.. Yes, that's 2 more lifetimes to an 18 yr old. I think he wanted to hurt people in the most horrible way and not have to deal with the aftermath than him being sad about the Dream Act. If it wasn't the Dream Act it would have been a girlfriend or a lost job. He was just born weak. Don't feel sorry for someone who didn't want to fight or work a little harder for what he wanted.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      Well said, thank you!

      November 30, 2011 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Magdiel

      I feel sorry for you.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Omni

      So I'm the dick huh? But not the son who took his life while the entire family was still sitting at the dinner table on Thanks Giving? Not the boy that took an 18 year invest of love and treasure and flushed it for a 29 cent bullet? He's the good guy, watching from He!! while his mother has to cleans his brains off the bathroom sink. He's the reason abortion is still legal. I grew up in the 70's in Alabama, black. Wasn't nothing about my life that was rich! We didn't have an indoor toliet until 1980. But I never thought about killing myself because somebody told me "Get the F outta here Ni–ger".

      November 30, 2011 at 1:27 am | Report abuse |
  49. Chloe

    How does it make sense to further allow our country to continue on its downward spiral of mass ignorance through our inability to mold educated beings? These young immigrants came here with their families at an early age unbeknownst to the consequences of their actions or even a clear understanding of what was happening. With that being said, it seems not in our best interest to punish these kids for being hard working, intelligent and willing to help our country populate itself with higher educated beings which is something we have started to lose. It seems apparent that over time the youth born on American soil have become spoiled and lazy and with the deterioration of our education system they have also become just plain stupid. By denying these youth a chance to get a college education which would without a doubt help our country, you are in turn betraying the very nation you think you are protecting.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      The deterioration in the education system is due to having to 'try' to educate millions of anchor babies with half a brain compared to whites. You are a true 'know it all who really knows nothing'.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Kevin California

      Are you that ignorant and uneducated to define the definition of ILLEGAL? Illegal immigrants don't belong here period they broke the law as soon as they stepped foot on American soil. People can immigrate to the US LEGALLY. You can come up with any excuse you want but the law states that anyone here illegally should be deported. Kind of ironic that every other country in the world even Mexico has NO tolerance for illegal immigrants and they are deported immediately. It's time the Feds enforce the immigration laws of our nation and if any employer hires an illegal should be faced with stiff fines. Any city government that provides safety for illegal in the US should be arrested and fined.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
      • Chloe

        Kevin,
        There is no reason to punish a kid who was brought here against his will and was too young to even comprehend what was going on. He would have helped our country by actually being an educated being populating our society. I don't know if you've noticed, but we've been lacking in that area for some time now.

        November 30, 2011 at 1:52 am | Report abuse |
      • kareny

        Agreed. In addition, these high school & college age illegal aliens have known for years that they're here illegally. Their parents, illegal children & anchor babies must be deported immediatly. No amnesty for anyone.

        November 30, 2011 at 1:57 am | Report abuse |
  50. Jovani

    If he was alive, he still have a chance to go to college. But it was him who decided to end not only his dream, but his life too.
    I feel so sad for the loss and for the family too. So sad...

    November 30, 2011 at 1:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      You might want to go to college too... to improve your grammar "he still have a chance to go to college"... er sorry, primary school better!

      November 30, 2011 at 1:15 am | Report abuse |
  51. in Seatttle

    This is a really sad story, but it sounds like the young man probably had had some depression issues. There's no reason to make it sound DREAM act would help prevent teen suicides.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:06 am | Report abuse |
  52. Mags

    Its a shame that that Mr. Luna is dead, he may have been able to accomplish great things.

    That being said, this may be extremely callous .... but why should I feel sorry for him or others in his situation? Personally, I was not born in America but in India and came here (legally) when I was 4. It was a struggle for my parents and I but we're living the American Dream and have become very successful. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things ... my family waited years for all the paperwork to come through, why are people feeling sorry for those that cheat the system and should not be here in the first place?

    I'm not anti-hispanic, im anti illegal immigration. Hispanics are welcome in this country ... but do it legally. Looking at things realistically, I dont see a way to kick out all of the illegal immigrants. Programs like the Dream Act may be unappealing to some ...BUT the alternative is far worse. Without an education for people like Mr. Luna, we are perpetuating a system of keeping Hispanics uneducated and second class citizens ... in a scenario like this ...we all lose.

    November 30, 2011 at 1:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      Did you choose to come here legally when you were 4 years old? Or did your parents do it? Because I can hardly remember anything about that time of my life, and I'm pretty sure that if my parents have told me that we needed to go to another country; I would have said yes.
      The reason to feel sorry is that young people like him, who would benefit from the dream act, are not guilty for the crimes of their parents. In this country, we never considered that the son or daughter of a thief should be sent to prison for the crimes his or her parents did. I don't know why people would treat immigration offenses any differently.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:29 am | Report abuse |
    • kareny

      They can go back to their country of origin, apply to immigrate to this country legally & wait their turn like everyone else.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:59 am | Report abuse |
      • AmericanSam

        While you scoff at them for not being smart enough to have been born in the United States to begin with. Ha ha ha. You were so smart to have been born here.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:12 am | Report abuse |
      • Really Kareny?

        Did you not read anything that Rick said? They did NOT ask to be brought to a foreign country. Good ol' Mags came to this country legally NOT by his own will. He would've been here whether his/her parents would've come here legally or not. A 4 year old doesn't "choose" to immigrate illegally. So why on earth would punish these kids, especially when these kids want nothing but an EDUCATION or SERVE THIS COUNTRY OF OURS? What better way to contribute and give back to society than that????

        November 30, 2011 at 2:26 am | Report abuse |
  53. Omni

    I wonder if MLK was as weak as this kid would I have a place in this world. After all the beatings and death threats Dr. King kept moving foward. This kid saw no other way out? How sad that he didn't have the guts to see what was ahead of him in the next 18 years of his life. How selfish of him to hurt his family because one thing went wrong in his life. Both my parents were born in the early 1930's in Mississippi and Alabama, black. I'm so glad that they didn't take the easy way out. I laid in a hospital bed for 8 days fighting for my life because I knew tomorrow was always going to be a brighter day. Never did it cross my mind to take my own life in my parents home. When did our youth become so weak?

    November 30, 2011 at 1:01 am | Report abuse |
    • AmericanSam

      Not cool to insult a kid who killed himself. Internet or no Internet, this is a seriously disgusting statement.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:13 am | Report abuse |
    • jacksays

      Agreed. Suicide is a weak person's way out. Pure cowardice.

      November 30, 2011 at 6:29 am | Report abuse |
  54. ImaginePeace

    I suppose it's easy to forget that our forefather's were all technically foreigners who came to this country and murdered millions of people in order to have a better life from the "foreign" countries that persecuted them. But that's right- if you're white and come to America for a better life that's called "Manifest Destiny" and it's totally

    justified. White immigration is fine- immigration is totally open, but the minute anyone of color wants in, it's time to tighten up those immigration laws. The fact of the matter is people need to get educated on the history of immigration in this country and who has been welcomed with open arms ( or forcefully shoved their way in) and who has demonized as not worthy to bless US soil. I have a Master's Degree and have studied these sibjects in particular. It's a shame that so many people have lost their sense of humanity and can forget that this boy took his life... I'm sure he had other issues and reasons for wanting ti kill himself, but that doesn't change the fact that not being able to become apart of the so-called American Dream ( which ought to be renamed the American Joke) effected his decision. Regardless of whether or not the Dream Act should or shouldn't pass, it's a shame that people are so "me" oriented that they've lost their humanity and can no longer be distraught about the death of someone- unless their American.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      Every country started at the beginning from people fighting over territory. Stop using that lame old tired argument.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      It should be 'affects' in that usage too, not 'effects'.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
    • steve

      That was so well put. The problem is, the same people who will no doubt say he deserved it are the same people who think about Me Me Me, they are the same people who would step over a dying person if that person didnt have any healthcare. Uncaring and couldnt give a rats a55 about anyone else but themselves. Unfortunately they are usually uneducated and you cant reason with them. A young life that is lost is sad no matter what country they are from or what color they are and if you cant see that you need help.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Danielle

        You are the one that needs help, but you're probably hopeless.

        November 30, 2011 at 1:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Keith M

      "unless their american"......yeah, I can see you've studied really good to get you're master's degree 🙂

      November 30, 2011 at 1:11 am | Report abuse |
    • neron

      Your right my family came her from another country. I'm pretty sure they didn't kill millions of people. One thing my family didnt get when they got her was government handouts. They didn't get free medical care, they didn't get to go to college for free either. Suicide of a young child is tragic I know first hand. A think to say his suicide is because of the fact the dream act did pass is stupid. Im white and guess what I paid my way through school.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:14 am | Report abuse |
    • coldassets

      I must have forgotten my history because I don't remember being taught the Native American Immigration laws when the Mayflower came over.

      November 30, 2011 at 4:20 am | Report abuse |
  55. Will

    Let me preface this by saying that I am a libertarian, and that I am for as close to open borders as possible... a simplification of the legal immigration system, and the DREAM act doesn't bother me very much at all.

    But rather than pointing the finger at the system, wouldn't it make more sense to point the finger at this boy's parents? They brought him here and put him legally at risk. They knew they were creating illegality for not only themselves, but their son. They knew they were limiting his options and that his ability to get a college education was very low.

    And, maybe I'm missing something here, but if this kid was a Mexican citizen (since he's illegal he wouldn't have been an American citizen), what the heck would be wrong with going back to Mexico City and attending college there? Mexico may not be first world by America's standards, but it is still more than developed and cultured enough in many of the urban areas. With an American High School education, he'd get into any of those schools in a heartbeat.

    And, maybe I'm missing something else, but didn't Governor Perry sign a Texas version of the DREAM Act? In other words, couldn't he do exactly what this article suggests that he couldn't? Not only go to college, but go to college with in-state tuition.

    So, to review: the entire premise of the article is incorrect and he could go to college cheap in Texas... if he couldn't he could have gone to college in Mexico... and even if the premise of the article was true, the parents are to blame for putting their son in a situation like he was in... when you voluntarily enter a system that has rules and you know those rules, you can't get mad at the system for not being how you'd like it. You made the choice to come (and flaunt those rules).

    Which is just to say, this is probably the most superficial, lazy, agenda driven, shameless reporting I've ever seen. Trying to use the tragic death of a teen to score a political point like this is more than just a little pathetic.

    And I remind you, this is coming from somebody who more or less sympathizes with the plight of illegal immigrants, and supports most of the policies they want, even further than the liberals want to go... so that's saying something.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:45 am | Report abuse |
    • NateFromIndiana

      For what it's worth, in 2008 (most recent year for which I could find numbers) the WHO listed the teen suicide rate in Mexico as less than half of the rate we see in the US. There are obviously many factors that play into the statistics, but it may be that the idealism of the American Dream is inflating expectations that can't be met in real life.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:17 am | Report abuse |
  56. Judith

    Are you NUTS! No one other than his parents are responsible for this young mans death! PERIOD.... and what you write is so far fetched it is totally inane.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:44 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      No, I'm not nuts, but YOU'RE brainwashed.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:48 am | Report abuse |
  57. Greg

    I am a Border Patrol Agent in the US/Mexican border. I am not anti-immigration, or anti-Hispanic (the majority of agents are actually Hispanic). I feel the need, however, to clarify something from PERSONAL experience living and working on the border, being involved with illegal immigrants. A HUGE number of the people that illegally enter into this country do so because they are criminals who cannot legally obtain a visa (things like being a convicted felon automatically bar someone from getting a US visa). Not all illegal aliens are hardened criminals, obviously. But this idea that everyone crossing our border is a hardworking, dedicated individual needs to stop. It's just not true.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:44 am | Report abuse |
    • derp

      Fair enough. But the problem here is that many are blaming the children of illegal immigrants for the actions of their parents.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:48 am | Report abuse |
      • pogojo

        I blame the whole family.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Steve Lyons

        Actually we are blaming the politicians for failing to secure the borders and deport the entire tribe if ILLEGAL immigrants. This crap of anchor babies MUST be halted. He wouldn't have killed himself he he had grown up in Mexico instead of being here ILLEGALLY. The parents are to blame and still need to be deported.

        November 30, 2011 at 1:06 am | Report abuse |
      • AmericanSam

        @pogojo Cast a wide net. Good thinking. Maybe you'll actually hate someone worth hating in the process.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:17 am | Report abuse |
  58. derp

    sense. make some.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:44 am | Report abuse |
  59. Danielle

    One question: do you white liberals brainwashed by the jewish media ever wonder why any non-white countries are not being forced to accept massive immigration?

    November 30, 2011 at 12:43 am | Report abuse |
    • sbk

      because most non-white countries are poor, and thus have no incentive for immigrants to go there. What hole have you been living in? Texas?

      November 30, 2011 at 12:46 am | Report abuse |
      • Danielle

        No I live in Orange County, Mexifornia.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:53 am | Report abuse |
    • dscon

      It's because those countries can.
      Mexico for example shoots/steals/lets drown hispanics entering from the south
      border, hey there is no money headed north. Tell a lib that and their faces glaze
      over and they walk away.
      La-La-la(hands over ears)

      November 30, 2011 at 12:53 am | Report abuse |
  60. derp

    (1) There are many people who were once suicidal teens, received help, and have gone on to become productive members of society. Your assumption that suicidal people will never amount to anything is unfounded.

    (2) The remainder of your first paragraph is a strawman argument.

    (3) Pneumonic plague is not an issue in a country with an adequate health care system.

    (4) Your claim that all illegal immigrants are "selfish," "reckless," and disregard the safety of everyone else is an unsupported assertion.

    (5) Your entire 'argument' lies on a bed of fallacies.

    Maybe you should have gone to college after all.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Tacitus Talks

      I did not say suicidal, I said suicide. The fact that he committed suicide means it is over. And he took the coward's way out. A person that is suicidal does not have the personality to succeed – and if he got help he could have overcome that peroblem, but he didn't . His parents and teachers also ignored this. I

      November 30, 2011 at 1:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Tacitus Talks

      I went to college before they prepared people to work at McDonald's. If they are suicidal, they will not amount to anything – because they will be handicapped by the pathology that causes the suicidal tendencies. Have you ever studied basic logic. Obviously not.
      (2) Since the rest of paragraph one is an original thesis – you are making the straw man argument. You must still be in High School friend.

      (3) Pneumonic plague – now junior, you are doing a straw man argument. This plague is airborne, and requires treatment within 24 hours or there will be 100% mortality. It could easily wipe out a border town. Its initial symptoms are flu like. This was an example – there are MANY viruses floating around and the entry of someone from a country of sub standard health care (Mexico and South America) into a nation that is unprepared because they have a good system can be catastrophic. THAT IS THE REASON YOU CONTROL THE BORDERS. An illegal could bring in fruit that has some form of blight – since they are not checked on the border – we now have been contaminated. My education taught me to think logically (not the critical thinking garbage that restricts you to the brainwashing of our professor). YOU MUST consider what COULD HAPPEN, not what you think MIGHT happen. I know of many disasters caused by recent college graduates in my field – because they asserted – "oh that won't happen".
      (4) Since illegal aliens are not being checked from bringing in contaminants, there for my claims that illegal immigrants are "selfish," "reckless," and disregard the safety of everyone is obviously correct. In this case our own federal government is derelict in its purpose to protect us

      (5) As you can see – you are the incompetent fool and please stay of of the Computer Science field – you are a disaster waiting to happen.

      Maybe you should have gone to college after all.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Tacitus Talks

      BTW – Talk about straw man arguments – the whole premise of the article is that failure to pass the Dream Act killed the boy. Also, my personal favorite – if you are against illegal immigration you are against immigrants and anti – Hispanic. That makes the whole article fallacies and lies.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:55 am | Report abuse |
  61. robert

    you are frighteningly dark and creepy to put that in writing.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
  62. nomorecriminals

    Native americans are asians. Just asians that colonize the land tens of thousands of years ago. What is your doctorate in? Pick pocketing?

    November 30, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
  63. The Rambling Fool

    There was obviously a problem salient enough for him that he left it wasn't worth trying to live, which is sad. It's possible that this is really just 'the left' trying to use his death for their agenda (although I doubt he'd object), but it's also possible that the stigma of his background and the loud rhetoric on news stations made him feel degraded to this point.

    Obviously, it wasn't the answer. But it's always sad to see someone making this choice.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
  64. Traci

    "Natives" migrated to America from Asia. All of America was not claimed by "natives" when the pilgrims came. American's are not illegal immigrants because there was no "America" and no laws to violate when they came here.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
  65. Celeste

    "Give me your tired, your poor,

    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    November 30, 2011 at 12:38 am | Report abuse |
    • pogojo

      Boy thats a great poem, to bad it is not our immagration poilcy, you should read the immagration laws.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Judith

        Thank you for some sane rhetoric! That poem only would work in a perfect world... never has been, never will be,,, any more than there will be a time when everyone works equally and takes only what they need and there is no greed or hatred.... In dreams only!

        November 30, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
      • revjerp

        it's engraved at the foot of the statue of liberty genius. go read a book.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
    • pogojo

      The statue that the french made and gave to america? yes they did add that nice poem.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
      • AmericanSam

        Dude you're mean. Have a heart.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Jp

      Sure send them to me, but do it the legal way. They came through New York and were processed legally, not sneaking across the border. What's your point ?

      November 30, 2011 at 1:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Sigh

      That's very true, and it is the way we believe here in the USA! The problem is the poem does not state: sneak in across my borders, work at my jobs, send your money back to your country, and then after taking all you can and your ranch back home is paid off leave us.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:14 am | Report abuse |
  66. pogojo

    There is a country here now, obay the laws. When the europeans came all that was here was dirt and trees, americans have built this nation into what it is today, dont try to trivialize it.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:37 am | Report abuse |
    • derp

      how about not trivializing suicide.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
  67. NoCuts

    Read the entire article.
    Wrong ethnicity, wrong religion.
    I suppose the wrong demographics to have an intelligent perspective.
    Ancestors stood in line and entered as per the rules.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
  68. U.S. Citizen

    A criminal for what? They you are the son of a criminal because this country was founded by European illegal immigrants you moron. He is no more criminal than the colonists who illegally took the land from the Native Americans. He has the right to be here legally.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:32 am | Report abuse |
  69. Mike

    My God you are misguided. With thinking like this, it's no wonder the country is going down the tubes.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:30 am | Report abuse |
  70. John

    We are a nation of IMMIGRANTS, immigrants built this country and we need immigrants and not deport them..

    November 30, 2011 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
    • frank

      LEGAL immigrants. There's a difference.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
    • pogojo

      we need legal immagrents, you know immagrents that have something to offer, not just come here to be a sponge.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:38 am | Report abuse |
  71. Sane Sam

    You forgive what you understand.

    Clearly people who call this young man a coward or deserving of this fate because of his illegal status have never been in his shoes; do not understand the concept of suicide.

    Also, imagine you were not even born and you are already in fault because of your parents. Imagine you have to pay with your life for your parents' mistakes. No children should answer for parents' faults. Period. With this in mind, the problem of illegal immigration is the one with no easy solution.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:28 am | Report abuse |
    • christopher

      blah blah blah blah blah,...for him to take his life over this situation,...he clearly had other issues. it has nothing to do about immigration or college.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Jp

      He should have blamed his parents. It's not my fault he is here illegally and he and his parents should go back to where they came from. Come here the right way.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Tacitus Talks

      Nobody said he deserved it. But I still say he is a coward.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
  72. Lucas

    did you even read this before you posted it?

    November 30, 2011 at 12:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      Yes, waaah waaah poor illegal alien. Genocide of whites good, blah blah blah.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
  73. NoCuts

    Tragic whenever a child is lost... however whatever happened to "no cuts".
    Are there others who have been waiting their turn but due to an overrun of the backdoor, they still are waiting?
    Did anyone knowingly "cross the line", (so to speak) by not following the rules?

    It's sort of like having a fiesta with family and then others begin showing up and eating and drinking and having a good time.. but at some point the money and resources run out. Then do we end up like Greece with their financial troubles?

    Again, any loss of a young person is a terrible thing.... and especially when a young person chooses to take their own life.

    But do not dare to use this child's poor life-decision as a poster child to further a political agenda? Don't tell me that anyoune would stoop so low as to use this to wave as a banner to rally the troops to pass a Dream-Act....

    What about taking care of those that have lived her all their lives and whose great-great-grandparents had come here through Ellis Island and stood their place in line until it was their turn?

    There really shouldn't be any discussions on a Dream Act until you can demonstrate a zero tolerance for illegal border crossings without giving "The Shaft" to the children who had already been here through proper entrance.

    Thank you for your time.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Judith

      Right, amazing that we never hear any other ethnicity sniveling about having to wait, or calling Americans names because there are rules that need to be followed. It is only those from Mexico or other Latin communities who cry, snivel, blame and continue to break the laws of this country who we constantly hear about and from... and they wonder why we want them to go home and stay there???? Plus here in Arizona they have simply ruined huge sections of the state and bigger cities and are the majority of the criminals. Those are facts that can be checked out,, statistics don't lie.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:53 am | Report abuse |
  74. Crazy

    ...All I can say is you are clearly biased. You obviously don't have an understanding of basic political theory...Barack Obama is far from socialism. He is also not a Muslim, and even if he is, why does it matter? They live here and serve our country a heck of a lot better than you obviously do. You're a racist and ignorant.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Tacitus Talks

      Who is calling who biased. You don't know how the man you are denigrating serves this country. And for all we know – you are a leech on public assistance. Socialism is an economic policy – practiced in warm body democracies (sometimes) and always in Communistic States. Obama has used Keynesian economic and Keyenes was a socialist. Your bias is obvious, calling a man a racist because he calls Obama a socialist.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:32 am | Report abuse |
  75. U.S. Citizen

    It is bad news, one less smart human being with great goals you idiot! Go back to your Nazi village.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:21 am | Report abuse |
    • trollface

      I don't care what his goals were.

      He was in this country illegally, making everything else a moot point.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Tacitus Talks

      Intelligent people control their environment and overcome it. They don't "quit". I would suggest you go leave your basement, your mother says dinner is ready.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:23 am | Report abuse |
    • robert

      how could someone be so inhumane. this is where we are? its like the person who was trampled on for a twenty dollar discount at walmart during black friday. no one seems to be interested in the human factor. unreal. it makes me ashamed to be human.
      most countries have immigration issues they just don't have the level of prejudice that thrives here.
      how could you say good riddins to a boy's family who just died and may god see your indifference and present you with an equally tragic situation that may open your eyes to your ignorance.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:32 am | Report abuse |
    • trollface

      There is no god. Only the will to power.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:32 am | Report abuse |
  76. oh please

    MANY people dont go to college and end up successful professionals
    MANY!!!

    This person killed themself because SOMETHNIG WAS WRONG WITH THEM- END OF STORY

    November 30, 2011 at 12:21 am | Report abuse |
    • U.S. Citizen

      But people are better off going to college...he killed himself becuase our stupid immigration laws.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
      • pogojo

        this guy had other issues

        November 30, 2011 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
      • Jp

        There is nothing stupid about our immigration laws. Look at how our country is becoming divided. America is being turned into a third world country. Greed is killing this country.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:50 am | Report abuse |
      • kareny

        No he killed himself because he's known for years that his parents broke the law, that he's here illegally. He should have returned to his home country, applied legally to immigrate to this country & wait his turn like everyone else.

        November 30, 2011 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Jesse

      That is true, but without a SSN you can't get a job and pretty much can't do anything and in case you missed the reason he killed himself, it was because he was illegal and although the article doesn't state it, if you are illegal you do not have a SSN.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      I agree, how many American kids are denied college because they are poor? How many of them have killed themselves? Suicide is not a problem only with illegal residents, and it makes me sick that those who want amnesty for illegals (or special educational privileges) grab onto this tragedy to use it for their own agenda. Sorry but we need to take care of our legal citizens first!

      November 30, 2011 at 12:53 am | Report abuse |
  77. U.S. Citizen

    Why don't they deport you back to Europe?

    November 30, 2011 at 12:20 am | Report abuse |
    • illegalfunboy

      Cause im not dead yet

      November 30, 2011 at 12:25 am | Report abuse |
  78. Creaturz

    There are millions in the country LEGALLY that dream of going to college but never can/do. It is sad he killed himself, but his reasons were stupid and his dream was still obtainable....was.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      Creaturz I do not agree with you, depression is an illness that can be treated and suicide is the lowest point. That said, how many American kids are denied college because they are poor? How many of them have killed themselves? Suicide is not a problem only with illegal residents, and it makes me sick that those who want amnesty for illegals (or special educational privileges) grab onto this tragedy to use it for their own agenda. And I do feel we need to take care of our legal citizens first!

      November 30, 2011 at 12:57 am | Report abuse |
  79. derp

    obvious troll is obvious.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
  80. Aaron

    I seriously doubt that we're getting the full story here. It runs along the lines of Fox News editing...believe at your own risk.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Youra Hogg

      Permanent solution to a temporary problem

      November 30, 2011 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
    • George

      Given this is the CNN site, I doubt we have Fox News editing. I am sorry for the young man and his family, but his solution indicates much deeper issues than our policies. Maybe his parents should look at their decision to be here illegally and take their share of the blame. The government has a responsibility to protect our borders and citizens first. We need to find a reasonable solution to the illegal alien problem that is fair to all, with the priority being border protection and legal citizens. Those who are natural citizens and those who came here following the laws deserve better protection than those who chose to break the law. There is no easy, correct solution.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:57 am | Report abuse |
  81. U.S. Citizen

    America needs an immigration reform ASAP! There are millions of other smart people like this student who would add great value to this country if our immigration laws were logical. America was founded by immigrants and will continue to be the place for immigrants. No one has the right to deny legal status to an immigrant if they come here to work and study to improve this country. Many Americans are just racist and don't want to open this great country to bright young people who could add great value. The republicans are as racists as the KKK, they are probably members of the clan.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
    • jim

      You know what the funny thing about this whole discussion is that the left loves using the racist card. I love the argument that this country was founded on immigrants....which is true...but it was also founded on/with slavery and I think we can agree that was not a good thing. What I think we can also agree on is that many Americans are not anti immigration but many are anti illegal immigration. I have no problem with immigrants and actually we need them because our own children are too lazy and spoiled to better this country. But there is a process in place to come here legally. Yes, we use to have no immigration laws because we were trying to populate this country as fast as possible and we needed the cheap labor to develop it.

      However, times have changed and now there are laws and all that I ask is people come here legally. Don't really care from where......just do it the right way because you are throwing it in the face of every person who has recently gone through the long arduous process legally.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      Well the problem is, that we already have many illegals mooching off our money but having anchor babies and coming to hospitals and not paying the bills, sending their kids to our schools which they dont pay for, all this money that they get comes from tax payers, so technically you are paying for their lives....

      November 30, 2011 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
    • kareny

      No, immigration reform isn't necessary. People in other countries need to obey our immigration laws & apply to immigrate to this country legally & wait their turn like others do. Our immigration laws must not be changed to accomodate & reward people to immigrate to this country illegally.

      November 30, 2011 at 2:08 am | Report abuse |
  82. Sane Sam

    How sad that he saw no way out. What a tragedy for his family. May he rest in piece.

    For those of you who wonder about why he had a gun, who cares??? He saw it in his legal friend's house and took it. It is not important and is insensitive to make this comment. A human being committed suicide and you go, oh I wonder where he got his gun??? This boy was someone else's son, brother, friend.

    And for those of your against illegal immigrants, just imagine what kids of illegal immigrants feel. They were not even born and they were already at fault. No child should have to answer for your parents' mistakes. I am not saying giving all illegal immigrants a green card, I am saying, be more sensitive in your comments and see the other side of the coin. It is obviously a problem with no easy solution.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Sane Sam

      May he rest in peace (auto-correction).

      November 30, 2011 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
  83. illegalfunboy

    Yeah like columbine I think they were illegals too

    November 30, 2011 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
  84. HighFive

    I'm moving to Canada. You all deal with these people. I'm done with them.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
    • zmm

      Then you will be an illegal immigrant in Canada! Genius!

      November 30, 2011 at 12:46 am | Report abuse |
  85. IronyPolic

    "Feel" free to spout off your superior intellect elsewhere.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:13 am | Report abuse |
  86. NyteShayde

    No, that's not a typo. A typo would be something like htis. However, you're just an idiot.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:13 am | Report abuse |
  87. Mike

    This story does not ring true. Texas has a program to allow illegal immigrant students to get in-state tuition rates to attend college. This young man was eligible for that.

    There are other reasons for his suicide which the Liberal Left does not want to explore.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Felston

      I definitely think there is much more to the situation as well. It appears that the young man could have attended college. So maybe the issue is they expected to attend for free and be given a citizenship for eventually graduating. I love immigrants, legal immigrants. Can't feel guilty for illegal immigrants who expect to break our laws by being here illegally and provide for their every need and dream! Heck, both our families have been legal citizens for many generations and we are currently paying our son's college tuition. So this article actually hardens my heart toward people who do it the wrong way. We all have struggles, it is a choice to overcome. One can't just come to the U.S. illegally with the expectation the citizens are going to proived what they need/desire. Look at our economy many citizens can't provide for themselves. This artice is annoying.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
  88. Danielle

    Yeah! Also aren't his parents illegal too? I'm sure we can count on Janet Napolitano to get right on that!

    November 30, 2011 at 12:13 am | Report abuse |
  89. Danielle

    Uh... I don't understand. He COULD'VE gone to college. This doesn't make any sense at all.

    I went to a university in California and had many friends that were illegal. I was kind of frustrated for a time because I paid out of state tuition for a year, whereas they technically weren't citizens, got in state rates, free tuition because of low income families and often were given extra financial aid. I don't understand what this boys problem was. It's a shame he killed himself, but his reasonings were flawed. Besides, not to sound heartless, but how is this news?

    November 30, 2011 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
  90. Dizzy from the spinning

    The victim was able to get a high school education in the US. That had to leave him with some optimism on getting an education. What happened immediately following up to his suicide? There are large chunks of this story that are missing. I'm not convinced that his suicide was a result of the DREAM Act failing. Rafael Romo needs to be more thorough and responsible about reporting on these issues. If this is an attempt to politicize a boy's suicide for political gain as some have pointed out, then Romo owes that family an apology. This is not the right way to make it to the top story spot.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
  91. andybud

    We will certainly "fill" free to do so, genius.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Danielle

      It's called a typo. I see you suffer from white liberal guilt sponsored by the jew tube Andy.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Mrs. Sixx

      Thanks. Was about to say that myself.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:13 am | Report abuse |
  92. Martin

    He'll have to answer to God for his act..
    He should have been in far greater fear of judgement than not going to college.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Geraldine Drewlo

      You are right.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
  93. Danielle

    Natural selection at its finest or God's wrath, whatever your belief.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:08 am | Report abuse |
  94. Cece

    Texas has a DREAM Act...

    November 30, 2011 at 12:07 am | Report abuse |
    • flyin

      Um, no we don't have a Dream Act in Texas! You must not know much about Texas government, or what it's like to be a small child brought into the US against your will–because it is anything but a "free ride." We're talking about people–human beings–who, like US citizens, just want a better life for themselves, and are penalized for what their parents have done when they are 2, 5, 8 years old. Do you have ANY idea what kind of fear these kids live with? Do you really think immigrants really have it all that easy, living in constant fear??? Do some research, and grow a conscience!

      November 30, 2011 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Felston

        Sorry, but their living in fear because they are here ILLEGALLY!! How is that our problem? A parent is a parent is a parent! It is the parent's responsibility in the this and any other country to make good decisions for their children. Any parent who does not carefully consider the predicament they are putting their children in are irresponsible and should not have kids period!! You can't charge U.S. citizens with providing and caring for your children. My family has been here legally for many generations and we don't leave our children's upbringing to the public. If your gonna have kids go thru the pain of parenthood. It means sacrifice and do things in the appropriate manner so it doesn't restrict your children's opportunities later. I had to drop out of college and work to support mine. But guess why my child is in college now. I'm paying for it and chipping away at a college regiment for my own education. The important thing is I sacrificed to give my child the life I wanted them to have. Because my decisions led to parenthood, I forfeited frivilous escapades and splurges, and I forfeited being a fulltime student because I wanted more for my child (without being on public assistance).

        November 30, 2011 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
  95. jack

    Well, now he'll never know if he could have gone to college.

    November 30, 2011 at 12:06 am | Report abuse |
  96. Jim

    hurrr

    November 30, 2011 at 12:02 am | Report abuse |
  97. laila

    Depression cause u to kill and it is common in American society...this guy isn't alone..he was obviously depressed due to all the problems he had and thought he had no way out as most depressed people think

    November 29, 2011 at 11:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jimbo

      I don't like the Dream Act angle on this story. He was obviously suffering from severe anxiety and depression.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:39 am | Report abuse |
  98. Mike K

    Here's a question: How did an illegal immigrant get a gun in the first place??? I suppose he could have gotten it from someone in a less than legal way (much like his being in the country), but if they track the serial number and it was sold to him by a store I am very concerned. I'm all for the right to bear arms, but much like our illegal immigration laws we should also enforce our firearm laws.

    November 29, 2011 at 11:57 pm | Report abuse |
  99. beverly benmoussa

    how sad for this poor boy's family.

    November 29, 2011 at 11:55 pm | Report abuse |
  100. jim

    How did he get a gun? He could not have had/owned it legally.......are we to believe that he was a law abiding illegal that somehow had access to a gun legally? If so where is the prosecution for the reckless storage of a firearm. I see more of a story here about either illegal gun ownership or reckless storage than that about college.

    November 29, 2011 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • derp

      how did he get a gun? it's texas! lol

      November 29, 2011 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • david

      Wow, just wow, that this is what you get from the story. A person in America has a dream and shoots himself because of bureaucratic bickering and you're more concerned about the bullet and the gun. Einstein would be fleeing America right now and heading back to Germany.

      November 29, 2011 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • jim

        Yes, I am concerned about where the bullet came from. Where I live 99% of all murders are committed by illegal guns and or possession. So yes I am concerned where the gun came from. This is not a story about education it is about pushing an agenda. Texas just passed the law that gives illegals in-state tuition rates, what more do you want?

        Is this a tragic human story, of course. But it doesn't justify pushing an agenda. Have you asked immigrants that came here legally how they feel about the DREAM Act? I have spoken to many and they all are much more anti illegal immigration than most natural born citizens (and yes they are from Central/South America). Many say we should treat illegals the same way Mexico does....look up their policy and treatment (though in full disclosure they may feel that way because it is their former countrymen that Mexico abuses).

        November 30, 2011 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
      • U.S. Citizen

        Agree, and many future Einstein will be doing just that. This country became what it is because of the intellectual capital it attracted from other countries. Now, this opportunity is closed and it will now be Germany and China amongst other countries that will benefit from our failure to reform immigration laws.

        November 30, 2011 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Andres Conde

      What do you expect. It is Texas. Anyone can get a gun there.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      In Texas as far as guns are concerned; You must have a Texas I.D. and pass a FEDERAL background check. The fact is this, It's very sad that the boy was depressed and felt the need to kill himself. I can also blame the buricrats, just like this boy and his family. I blame that county's sherif, congressman, Rick Perry, Eric Holder, DHS, ICE, INS and Obama for not enforcing federal imigration laws. But I also blame the family for not seeking a legal means to be in this country legally. If wanting and waiting for a free hand out ( The DREAM ACT) is something to be depressed about, there would be a whole lot more dead bodies. This poor boy should have learned more about taking personal responsibility, rather than playing the blame and simpathy game.

      November 30, 2011 at 12:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Jimmy T

      As soon as he touched that gun, he became a FELON per Federal gun control laws! Put that in your pipe and smoke it....

      November 30, 2011 at 12:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      Jim makes a valid point about the illegal gun. Yes of course any suicide is a tragedy, was this preventable? Most likely as most severely depressed give signs that are often overlooked. Does this particular tragedy mean we should grant amnesty, enact the DREAM Act? Absolutely not! How many young legal residents die of suicide each year? How many are depressed about their educational and vocational possibilities? How many legal resident children go to bed hungry every night? We need to take care of our own first! It is sickening to me there are those who want to use this young mans suicide to further their goals for illegals in the USA. Even talking about granting special privileges to illegals while ignoring the needs of legal residents is appalling.

      November 30, 2011 at 1:13 am | Report abuse |
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