Opinion: Maria Cardona: Latinos don't have to pick one political identity
Editor's note: Maria Cardona is a Democratic strategist, a principal at the Dewey Square Group, a former senior adviser to Hillary Clinton and former communications director for the Democratic National Committee.
By Maria Cardona, CNN Contributor
(CNN) - Last week’s Republican debate brought some interesting surprises. As a Latina Democrat, the biggest one I saw was Newt Gingrich’s defense of a legalization program for undocumented immigrants who have roots in the community and pose no threat to society.
Herman Cain has “joked” about an electrified fence on the border. Michele Bachmann can’t stop talking about her outrage at “anchor babies.” Mitt Romney, in an effort to make himself look like an immigration hardliner, has disavowed any past stances that would make him look soft on the issue. Most of the GOP candidates have gone to “kiss the ring” of Arizona’s Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio - arguably the most anti-immigrant law enforcement officer in the nation. So Gingrich’s new found “compassion” stands in stark contrast to the rest of the GOP field, who have tripped over each other to show who is most right-wing on immigration.
But how will all this play out for Latinos in 2012? Is the community divided? Will they stay home in 2012? Will they still support this president or will Gingrich create a new opening for the GOP with Latinos?
This is a deep and complicated question that no doubt perplexes those who try to define us by shallow, rigid strictures: Does Latino identity play a part in how we make decisions at the ballot box and how we view our public policy makers?
Sometimes, we ourselves don’t understand how this affects the decisions we make.
As Latinos, it is easy for the overwhelming majority of us to be against the anti-immigrant talk by most of the current field of GOP candidates. No wonder a recent Univision/Latino Decisions poll shows Obama beating all the candidates by margins of at least two-to-one.
Still, some Latinos believe we should re-think our loyalty to Obama and to the Democrats. While I believe that President Obama has done an enormous amount to help Latinos in this country - the Recovery Act, health care reform, financial credit card reform, Pell Grants - there is still a narrative that he did not deliver on his promise of comprehensive immigration reform. There’s disappointment in the rise of deportations that, at times, have led to separation in families.
Personally, I think this is a misguided, especially since the administration has announced new deportation guidelines that will show leniency in cases of those who pose no threat to the community. The problem will not be fixed until we pass comprehensive immigration reform, and we have the Republicans to thank for the lack of it.
But overall, the question of how Latino identities play into our national political debates is a good one. I believe these perceived differences are a good thing. They demonstrate political evolution and maturation. We are finally understanding that all our voices matter and we all need to speak up, even if there are dissenting voices among us.
This demonstrates the constant struggle - the daily reality - of understanding the identity of Latinos in the country.
I am honored when I hear from other Latinos about how proud they are to see a Latina on national television, holding her own on arguments not just about immigration and Latino issues, but about the economy, jobs, terrorism and foreign policy.
Young, bright, up-and-coming Latinas have come to me with this dilemma: Which identity to put first? When you are in a position to direct public policy, who are you first and foremost? When do you represent Latinos and when do you represent all Americans? There are many Latinos in position to affect the administration’s public policy on health, education, housing, foreign policy and yes, immigration. When I served as a Clinton administration appointee, I was in the same position and at times felt torn between identities.
I have come to see myself as the totality of my experiences – as a woman, Latina, Colombian-born American, mother and professional who had opportunities to work in national politics and cut my teeth in an area not populated by many Latinos.
I believe that we can be all these things.
We can be representatives of the Latino community, even in jobs where our responsibilities are much broader - just as Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s are as a member of the U.S. Supreme Court, as Governor Bill Richardson’s were when he led New Mexico and as Senator Robert Menendez are as a representative of New Jersey. These jobs are bigger than the person that holds them and they must represent the interests of the country as a whole. By doing this, they not only represent America well, they represent Latinos well.
This doesn’t mean they are turning their backs on their community - quite the opposite. The 50 million-plus Latinos living in this country have become such an integral part of our society that good, fair public policy towards middle-class and working-class Americans will be nothing but good for Latino families in this country.
As Latinos, we don't have to choose.
But I do believe that Latinos in position of power have the obligation to empower other Latinos, to make their voices heard - and to continue to enrich the fabric of ideas that make our community so vibrant, whether it's through agreement or dissent. While it will surely complicate things for those who want to put us in a box - and even for ourselves - it's what is so fulfilling about being Latinos in America.
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Maria Cardona.
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I am a fan of intelligent women who represent Latina women in a positive manner. You are such a woman, yet I was so disappointed to see you on CNN Sunday, Dec 3 wearing a mini-skirt, fishnet stockings and cheap looking go-go boots. As a woman, you should know better.
Valerie, you are so wrong on this point! TOTALLY agree that Ms. Cardona is a role model not just for Latinas but for all women and young girls. She is intelligent, substantive, and very likable. AND she is hip and modern as represented by her fabulous wardrobe and her strong sense of style. I love seeing her in bright colors, great jewelry and seeing her distinguish herself in a field of gray, boring suits. Maria, you go girl!!!
Valerie, I am glad you admire Ms. Cardona but your comments about her wardrobe are misplaced. There was absolutely nothing that she wore that was not respectable, professional, and totally put together. She represents a younger, hipper generation and her gravitas in poltiics shows young ladies that this does not have to be ho-hum, dull profession when it comes to wardrobe.
NOBODY SHOULD BE ABOVE THE LAW !!!
Obama, Holder, and Napolitano should all be in jail,
for the illegal sale of 2,500 weapons, to the Mexican drug cartels
... as well as the subsequent COVER UP of these crimes ...
resulting in the murder of thousands of innocent Mexicans,
and the murder of American border agent, Brian Terry.
If anything, Obama, Holder, and Napolitano,
should be held to a higher standard, than the rest of us.
In the days of Watergate, the Press demanded, and
got JUSTICE for the American people. Today, the
media looks the other way, or helps in the cover up !!!
Jane Fonda is being honored by BARACK OBAMA, as one of the '100 Women of the Century..'
BARBARA WALTERS WRITES:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during the Vietnam War.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the ' Hanoi Hilton.'
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the ' Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his family only knew he was 'missing in action'. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?' Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper...
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi . My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Banme Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs)
We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals....'
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as 'humane and lenient.'
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released.. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of '100 Years of Great Women.' Lest we forget....' 100 Years of Great Women' should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt,
USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron,
Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343
PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK.
IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE.
Latino's are for Less Government,Individual Liberties,Self Dependence,Less Intrusion from govt, and lets stop blaming all the problems to our next door neighbor, whether his/she is liberal or conservative, Let bring America Back let it was strong,and not apologetic, Vote obama out of office, most people are not going to fall with the lies of the liberal media any more.
Hermain Cain says he never even met that third chick, is he a registered Democrat now?
No?
I guess lies are just human nature and are not just stuck on one side of the political fence.
I support immigration reform. I do NOT support illegal immigration. Why? Terrorists are beginning to make their way into the United States via Mexico. I think it is important for the government to know if dangerous people are entering our country. I am NOT against Mexicans, or any other hispanic group. I am FOR protecting the people in our country against radicals even if this means putting up walls and using the military. I am also outraged that Latino coyotes and business people make so much money putting peoples lives in danger to enter our country and then blame a political party for causing it. I am for creating a new system that makes getting VISA's to come into the USA much more user friendly. It took me 12 years to sponsor a family from El Salvador. Speeding up and simplifying the process will make it much easier for our neighbors to come and stay and work in our country. If you are a citizen of the United States, then be an American citizen. If you are a green card holder, welcome to our country. We hope you will continue working to be a citizen of our nation. We ALL share in this great experiment of unity. Stop dividing this nation by race. We all live here and we need to get along. Taking sides against each other only divides us further and creates bad will.
I Agree !! thnx 4 ur input ! I couldn't have said it better myself !!
Being Latina/Latino nothing to be proud of based upon actions of a few?
Gee thats a broad brush you're painting with considering the United States is 66% white and all 43 out of 44 past Presidents were white males, therefore, let me borrow your brush and blame white males for all the ills committed in America starting with the stealin of the Native American's land and resources and using involuntary free labor from Africans because they were too lazy to pick their own cotton or raise their children that they trotted off to "Mammie" to care fore, capitalist Republicans use of cheap labor from illegals for decades to keep their profits high and now want to point to Democrats for the problem. Bush had 8 years to build the fence heaven high.....but that wasn't a priority now was it? Tax cuts for the 1% were the priority and not border security. (/snark)
See, broadbrushing works both ways across race, ethnicity, gender and party lines..
Ricardo A. Martinez, don't get it twisted.
I am a Democrat that will be voting for President Obama....AGAIN. HOWEVER, I don't consider Barack Obama a Black Civil Rights Leader. I just consider him President of The United States of America: FOR ALL PEOPLE.
Now say thank you. Classi is dismissed. 🙂
So, no more St. Patrick's Day celebrations. That's Irish. No more Oktoberfests. No one speak German, Swedish or any other language other than an indigenous one so that rules out English. How is your Cherokee? And for the record, no, English is not our official language. This is America and the official language is any language you want to speak. That doesn't mean you'll be understood but you have the right to speak it.
The mistake that most make is to lump together anybody that speaks Spanish, we are very diferent from each other, I am as diferent from a Mexican or Cuban as I am from a Korean, we are diferent in culture, values, upbringing, etc
Many of us are legal imigrants are against illegal imigration, La Raza, LULAC and anybody that fees itself of illegal inmigration.
Pr4esident Obama has given key positions to people of this organizations.
Many of us we chose to became Americans , noy abusing the sytem, we speak English.
I see first hand the abuse of Mexicans they dislike Americans but they use their tax dollars for free food, medical care, and how about the thousands of Mexicans that cross the border to attend public American schools ,while legal residents and cisitzens in border towns have their children bused far for not havinf space in the schools they pay.
I am conservative, catholic and anti illegal inmigration. There is not a "race 'called Latino or Spanic, we are of all colors, cultures.
The article is for illegal inmigrations and basically insults many of us.
That's, I think, a lot of people's opinion- Who cares if someone is Chinese, Mexican, Guatemalan, Irish, etc.....Illegal is illegal no matter where you illegally came from! I don't see anything wrong with people celebrating different cultures......the problem is assimilation!
Here is the problem. As long as Americans, keep classifying themselves as something other than just plain old Americans (African Americans, Native Americans, latinos, etc.) We all lose. I thought we should move past that with the election of Obama (his words.) Yet, I here race and other divisions still being used. Same ol' story, divide and conquer. Until Americans wake up, the country can never move forward.
I couldn't agree more and with my girlfriend who was born to a middle eastern father and a Latina mother i really enjoy hearing her call herself an "American" because she was born in America and not any of those other places. if everyone had that view point and that pride of American first then we would do whats best for america.
The problem with using the term "American" is that my father who was born in South America is also "American." He too is proud to be American.
Ha! I had a history teacher in high school who made the same point. We should be called United Statesians.
South America is a vast of countries, while USA is made of states, we are unique for we are recognized as Americans
I cannot agree with you more! However, the other side of the coin is just as divisive as the other. I belong to a very small segment of the US population. The military. Although we only see uniforms, as a Hispanic I insist I am an American. But please, I challenge you and anyone else in this discussion to answer why in the hell, I'm still asked where "I'm from", in the battlefield wearing the American Flag on my right shoulder.
Again, how much "American" do I need to be for people to stop asking such a dumb ignorant question? I cannot and will not change the color of my eyes or skin. Ironically I was not asked about where "I'm from" during the last mortar attack by the bad guys. They seem not to care about it.
illegal is illegal. if they have been here 20 years and still have not gotten their citizen ship, it is their fault. should those long timers be given leniency? yes. as for the rest. they need to go.
I agree !!
If you're an American, be it by birth or naturalization, your allegiance is to America. Drop the Latino, Salvadorean,Peruvian, Colombian, Dominican, Cuban- American garbage. You're either American or you're not. I was born in Peru. I became an American citizen. MY allegiance is now with this my country. I'm not Peruvian-American. I'm American. What's all this hesitation from immigrants? Nobody is saying to forget your roots, just acknowledge your sworn loyalty.
AMEN!
I'll drop the hyphenated American, when white Americans drop it for me. Born and raised here, (3rd generation) but to most white Americans, i'm just another Mexican.
Well Stated.
Support the DREAM Act!
never will pass, you do know Obama pushed this back when he had the house, senate, and him as pres, did not pass then, will not pass in the future.
we need an american citizen dream act, you know for american children, many cant go to collage because of cost, we need to help them.
@pogojo-–that's a lie. The Dream Act went for a vote in Dec. 2010 and it failed because of the Republicans.
Are you really that ill informed, in Dec 2010 the House ans Senate were still in Democratic hands and hey had a majority. the Republicans COULD not have blocked it.
Republicans=anti-hispanic. Why would any hispanic (other than Cubans, who get instant citizenship just by touching land in the US) be Republicans? it beats me!
Actually you are ill-informed, obviously you do not know the power of the filibuster, especially with the passing of Sen. Ted Kennedy.
STOP lumping us latinos as one group. I don't care what Mexicans, cubans, Colombians, Chileans, Venezuelans, etc...want thair probelm is not my problem and I do not vote to benefit them. I'm a Democrat and always will be. I will always support the party that look out for me. So I will vote for Barack Obama on 2012. He is the smartes politician of this century. All others before him had it easy. He came to office with no experience and has managed to clean most of the worse mess the Republicans have manage to create in this country. Imagine for one second if McCain had been the President where this country would be today. Probably trying to figure out how to solve a 20% unemployment and bring back the stock market from a crash. THANK YOU OBAMA for being our President.
I completely agree that they should stop lumping us together. As to the rest of your post couldn't DISAGREE more. I and the rest of my family and the majority of the country think Mr Obama is a complete FAILURE and will be voted out in 11 months. Yes we can take our country back!!! Newt or Romney in 2012!!!
Agree 100%. do you remember the "compassionate" Bush? I am so glad we do not have to go into that ditch again. I just do not see how the current GOP candidates can beat Obama 2012!!!!
I wonder what would happen if all of a sudden everyone in the world looked in a way that no racial differences could be determined. If race can't be blamed, then what would?
that would be too amazing of an idea but instead we he people that whoever posted above you that will still only vote for one party(one way of thinking) for life. Getting rid of racial divides would be amazing but then we are still stuck with social divides which politicians love to use to keep you in line.
) There are American citizens who abuse the system and whom we continuallly bail out. They do not contribute much to society, but they are citizens (legal) and we are bound to help take care of them. Sucks but true
2) ILLEGAL immigrants come to our country. Many work, many do not. The one's who do work don't pay taxes, don't have medical insurance. They don't speak English. We pay for their education, their meals, their healthcare. They are not held responsible for what this country is providing them.
3) If you are an American citizen and you come to the ER emergently should you have to be treated after someone who does not pay taxes, does not pay health insurance, and does not care to respect this country enough to go through the immigration process? I work in hospitals around the country and this is often the case. People who don't work in the medical field are blind to this epidemic. American citizens die or suffer severe consequences every day as illegal's are treated and taken care of and then are not even held financially responsible. The system is a disaster. I have seen veterans get much worse treatment from our government as many of them (of all nationalities) have sacrificed limbs, their mental health, and even their relationships.
4) Those who are HERE as LEGAL IMMIGRANTS it is your responsibllity to hold immigrants from your country to a standard where they should pay taxes, pay medical insurance, and pay their bills. Its not hard. You will gain much respect from American Citizens. Instead of poor Latino's, have some pride in being American!
Legal immigents should be the ones SCREAMING the loudest to get the ILLEGALS out of America. The ILLEGALS are giving all immigrents a bad name.
There are many illegals that pay their bills too. Let's stop making them a scapegoat. Many "legal" citizens abuse food stamps, disability, etc., and we are supposed to pay for them just because they were born in the US ? I think not!!!
Mrs. Cardona, can you please stop with this "anti-immigrant" nonsense. Very very few people are anti-immigrant. Most people love immigrants. You are either very naive or just a plain old liar. The majority of people out there are anti-ILLEGAL immigrants. You bleeding hearts are always trying to lump in the illegals with the people who play by the rules. I work with a few LEGAL immigrants and I can tell you that they are sickened with people like you who continue to lump them in the the law breaking illegals. If figures that you Democrats have to lie and twist facts to state your cases on the illegal immigrant issue.
I can't cut down your whole editorial piece with this one line. So would this sound racist to you?
"As a WHITE Democrat...."
I happen to be a dual citizen Guatemala and US but to everyone i will always be Guatemalan everywhere i go!
That is probably because you tell everyone you are Guatamalen thus showing eveyone that is where you allegence lies. You probably use you American citizenship status only when it suits you. So why not pick one country to show you allegeience be it here or there. Just pick a side and get on it. No man can faithfully serve two masters.
I hear you. My Hispanic husband was born in Tucson, family is from Tucson, going back to before the Gadsden Purchase of 1856. We now live in the midwest and people here, primarily other whites, ask if we met in Mexico, if he married me for a green card, are our kids citizens, etc. Just because he's tan. I usually turn it around ask Gunderson, Gustasfson, Anderson, Van Houten if they've been in the US awhile or just came here recently.
And to those who say, drop the links to your past like flags and Spanish, why? We of Irish descent love our St. Paddy's Day so much we share it. Oktoberfests happen all over the country every fall. I pass at least two cars a day with Swedish flag bumper stickers. Why can't those from Spanish speaking countries still feel a bond with their heritage? And, for the record, Spanish has been spoken in the US for hundreds of years. Just ask a Puerto Rican.
Amen, senorita gringa!
I don't know about other "latinos" but this is what I will say as an immigrant of mexican origin:
– Learn the language, this is the language of Washington and the other FF, you are missing out on a lot of you don't
– Stop complainng about racism, most people in this country will work with you if you try hard and they can relate to you at some level
– We or at least I hate gang-bangers, if it was up to me they would be shot on site just for they way they act and look
– You are getting what you deserver, not more and not less. Personal responsability
– If you came here illegally, you are on provation and yes you will need to earn the right to be an american
– Don't feel offended when people talk about "secure borders", most poeple just want to know who is getting in, you wouldn't leave you front door open
– Get involved in the community, even if you don't feel accepted or feel discriminated. Work with those with common sense
Resentment will get you nowhere!
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Well said, Hernan. I'm Hispanic as well and I agree with 100%.
Hernan- Great points. I really do think most people agree with you. To me, the problems associated with illegal immigration have zero to do with what country the illegal immigration stems from. I am what I guess is considered "white" and I feel weird if I go somewhere and it's all white people! I actually don't like too much of any race. I live in Long Beach, CA because it is one of the most culturally diverse cities in the US. I think most times when "white" people are considered racist, it really had nothing to do with race at all.
I'm not against immigration, but I am against the illegals. Either we have one awesome country here, that they would pay those coyotes to guide them through the desert, or Mexico is that bad. Or both. What the illegals should do is go back, get their paperwork in order, and be able to live without that hanging over them.
Hernan–I guess your policy on shooting "gang-bangers" on sight really goes well with the whole being a Spanish Conquistador thing.
Agree with everything you said except the ILLEGALS need to go back from wherever they came from and re-enter leagally.
Gingrich will say what he needs to say to get a vote. Don't be nieve enough to believe what he is saying, look at his track record. On the issue of representation, I'd suggest that Maria Cardona (lady who wrote this article) quit cashing in on being hispanic. If you don't you are just another poverty pimp. I'd suggest that Ms. Cardona write articles from the perspective of just being American.
In America were are Americans first. I don't call myself "Russo/Italiano", I call myself an American, just like my grandparents did. They came from Europe and learned how to speak English before they even stepped off the boat. Keeping thinking of yourselves as "Latinos", you will deserve all the anger and hatred you get.
Your ancestor were inmigrants, not you. You don't have any idea what it means being an immigrant, so you do not have any credibility to post any opinion.
As a Columbian-born American, why is it you have a problem deciding whether you want to be an American or a Latina? You're here and presumably a citizen. Why the indecision? America too white for you? Well, it's a country founded by whites with a majority of white citizens. Would you want Columbia taken over by whites that would destroy your culture? That's the problem I have with you, and you illegal friends. You're here, but you're here because this is where the money is. But you can't quite bring yourself to drop your committment to another country and commit to this one, EVEN THOUGH YOU TOOK AN OATH TO DO JUST THAT!
So forgive me if I neither have any compassion for you or care about your "issues". Maybe if you get off the fence, I'll change my way of thinking. As it stands, I see you as just another intruder that came here not to better the US, but to leech off of it. Sleep well.
Well said
Illegal is against the law. I'm not a German Austrian Irish ElSalvadoran American.... Im an American
Maybe we just get rid of all the laws, if people choose what laws they obey then whats the point. If there are no laws we can clean house.
Literally LOL, exactly what I was thinking but couldn't concisely say 🙂
Revealing she doesn't really mention class differences and how that affecst social and political perspectives. Mostly because she's a sheltered educated Latina snob. She has nothing in common with a migrant worker from San Ysidro or any other city in southern San Diego. And Colombia aint Mexico. The term Latina is as meaningless as white.
For the most part I welcome people from Mexico into the US. If they want to go to the US and provide then good for them. What I don't understand is if you move to the US why do you continue to wave the Mexico flag?
I completelly agree with you and I'm Mexican who wants to be american but will always be mexican: if you are in this country wave the right flag or get out! Also, loose the music is really bad. I guess the only explanation that I have for these people is how similar they are to poeple in the south, waving the Confederate flag and country music?
Hernan- I like your humor 🙂 Maybe we don't agree on everything....but you did make me laugh! Great comparison (I am not being sarcastic if this comes off that way).
I find it ironic that you would write an article in part about being placed in a box because of your race, when it is actually you who place yourself in that box by constantly thinking of yourself as a Latina. A white person would never write such an article (replace the word "Latina" in your article with the phrase "white woman," and you'll see how silly it sounds). You are a person. Your ethnicity is part of who you are, but being hyper-aware of it makes you beholden to it and can limit your horizons. You will never be intellectually free until you let go of thinking of yourself as a member of a race, or as a minority.
Amen.
The variety of our indiividual ethnic backgrounds and the insights they give us are what make our contry strong. But, when it comes to deciding what is best for the future of America and its citizens, focusing on our individuality can only tear us apart. We must set aside our difference and make decisions based upon what is best for all of us...not just for our own particular 'shade' or cultural lineage on what it takes to be an American. But, don't despair. In 200 years, we will all be color and culture blind. Then, we will make decisions based upon logic, not personal biases....but, unfortunately when that day comes, we will have lost what truly makes us great...individuality.
Tomorrow morning a number of aircraft will arrive from Europe into Chicago Oh'are carrying young Europeans with tourist visas that are just a way to get into this country (overstay), they will live in places like the Chicago afluent Northern suburbs and will eventually get to drive to the south side of chicago where the blacks or "african-American" reside, they will point out how bad these areas are and how lucky they are. Trust me, everyone who is here wants to be an american or at least get a chance to be one, not everyone will get that chance.
I think that Maria Cardona makes a good point.I am black, and a woman; and I understand the dilemma.It isn't just a matter of not thinking of yourself as just simply an American , or just as any other woman.would; but cultural and community ties, and even loyalties, run deep.I think of myself as an American first, but it's natural to be aware of , and sensitive to issues that effect your roots.You can never totally separate them from who you are, nor should you.
I consider myself as Hispanic, I speak Spanish, my ancestors were Spaniards. Latinos to me are all the people that speak Spanish or have some Spanish in them, maybe I am wrong. If you know your past, you will be able to inform others of who you are. Kien Sabe.
I do not think that people should abandon their ancestry. I just think a lot of people who chose to come here to have a better life, don't take pride in being American enough. I would rather people who come here, legally or illegally, take pride in America, which after all, is the place they want to live. If I move to France, I will learn French and want to learn all about being French, because if I move there it will be because they offer a better life. I would then say I am French, but grew up in America.
Oh crystal... i have no arguments there, I was born and raised in the US and I am damn well pleased to call myself an American. Even though I have had some people that have told me to "go back to my country".... and I of course I tell them, go back to yours lol.
I am an American and Christian first and everything else second...
actually when you're latino, you descendants come from the Latin America, ie: Mexico, Central and South America, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico.... not Spain. Yes yes, i know Spain conquered all of these areas centuries ago but a new type of ethnicity arose from their departure, Latinos a mix of Spanish, African and indigenous Indians.
You are Spanish/Spaniard whatever.... but you are neither Hispanic nor Latino.... you are European/Spanish.
And if you live in American (by choice) because America can offer you a better life, then you should be American.
Ram, I am American, of course, lol Being white....I think that someone telling you to go back to your country is racist and ignorant. I definitely don't want you to think I am racist, I am not. I have actually had boyfriends that have been Mexican, Guatemalan, Nicaraguan, Cuban and Chinese. I think everyone should be treated equally, nothing about race. I think the only reason the word "Mexican" or "Latin" is brought up so much, especially in the border states, is because of course we border those countries. So, naturally immigration will come greatly from those countries. I think that when you really do think about it, we are all from the same God. God really did choose all the people in this world to be here. I think a lot of times when sterotypes are used, it comes off as racist. I would like to think that most Americans are not racist and feel something should be done about illegal immigration because of the outcomes, not about race. I know in my heart I am not racist. You seem like a nice guy.
Oh and the phrase is "Quien Sabe"
Quíen sabe, please learn Spanish correctly.
How about I show up at your home and set up a tent in your backyard, of course with a big flag on it from the country I am from. Then I decide I am cold, so I set up electricity to be run from your home to my tent and send you the bill. When you question why you should have to pay it, I say because I am poor and need opportunity (by demanding, not asking of course). When you say that you don't have any extra money, I will tell you that you only don't want to pay because you are racist. I then get my friends to rally outside your home with signs stating, "Yes, we can." Then, I learn if I have a kid on your soil, it will be easier for me to stay and get you to pay for my electricity, so I have a few kids. And of course, I can't legally work, so I will now need you to pay for my medical pills and food- that's right, for the whole family. Don't forget- if you complain you are a racist! Then I decide, screw it, I am moving into your home and since I don't know your language, guess what? You need to learn mine. I am then going to put my country's flag all over your home so you understand that I am not like you, and actually your country is a POS who offers no opportunity to people like me, people in need. After I trash your home and take over, I tell you how I have every right to be there. I tell you my country isn't safe, so I should be able to live in your home so I have somewhere safe to live. I am not asking, I am telling, by the way. And because I don't have money and can't work because I didn't follow the laws, you should have to pay for me and my kids- we have every right, you know. And no, I do not take pride in being from your home- and as a matter of fact, people from your home are racist, anti-immigrant, and greedy.
That to me, is how America and American's have been treated in regards to illegal (not legal) immigration. I am sick and tired of hearing I need to pay for the world's poor! Did you ever think that the world's poor could actually be helped more if the laws from a successful country are followed? I don't want it forced down my throat....and on top of it all- I have never heard anyone that has come here illegally say that they are thankful for Americans. I am told told I am racist if I want the laws to be followed, never get a 'thank you," and now I have to press 1 for English and 2 for Spanish. If that option isn't available, it is because racist white people don't care about the needs of others.
I know I am sarcastic, but that is how I feel. I try to see your side, and I want to help people. But there is a reason why we have immigration laws. Follow the laws and I think most Americans will have no problem helping other new Americans (and please don't say you are _____-American. It is a slap in the face. If you aren't proud to be American, then don't be)!
Simple, really. Maybe the grammar isn't all correct, but the point should be.
Amen! I agree with most of what you said; however, you are dead wrong about people different than you and your ancesters coming to this country looking opportunity: They are working hard and struggling to make it, but belive me they will eventually make it, none is asking for any hand-outs. The only difference is that this people look like the same people your ancesters tried to exterminate but failed to!
I am confused. I never said anything about my ancestors coming here for opportunity. If the people you are talking about are going to make it without any handouts, that would be great. But not the reality. Have you heard about our schools? Hospitals? In a complete mess from overload. If they are hard workers, can they come legally? Then we shouldn't have a problem. The theory shouldn't be if you can't come to America when you want to, then you will anyway.
is breaking the law wrong? Yes
Is looking for economic opportunity within your hemisphere wrong? No
Do you belive that many new "EuroAmericans" despise Mexicans? Yes
Do I believe te majority of Mexican immigrants want to live in peace and help this country be great? YES
You people are missing the point, no matter what you say or do YOU CAN"T STOP HISTORY and migration patterns in this planet!
AGREE! But ILLEGAL immigrents have broken the law and should be held accountable by kicking them out
i am Latino and some of my family living here are not legal but what does it matter when my sis who is not legal whats to become a pharmacist when she is way smarter than me a citizen. Most immigrants make better citizens because they work hard without complaining and know what its like to be really poor and hungry. Gingrich will not support immigrants he is just flip flopping because he knows that the Latino vote has crucial power for who ever gets it. I am all for Ron Paul he is my favorite candidates and the best choice out of all of the gop candidates. All of the other candidates flip flop for votes, and that is all they care about and as soon as they take office they will all but forget the immigrant people.
PLEASE stop using the words "immigrant" and "illegal immigrant" interchangeably! Most Americans are not against immigration and many have immigrated here themselves- legally that is. It's also rather annoying to here Latinos talk about how the are Latino so often....maybe racism wouldn't exist as much if you weren't always talking about race!
Well said. Bravo!
The GOP are a bunch of racist right wing fascist, that like the Germans, used deportation, removal of rights to get rid of someone that they were threaten by. The other fact is that they hate the idea that a black man is in control of the Great Country. People that have come to this country in the past to include Europeans were all illegal, and have made this country the Greatest Country in the World. When they say "Take our Country Back" they mean get our "Political Power Back" well it will not happen, because in this great country we all share the power, and weather you like it or not that is the way that it will stay. Destroying this country will not make it better. One last thing, I hear the GOP saying a broken government, do not forget that the People Are the Government, and if we are broken we are all broken, do not separate yourself from the Government, Listen to how silly you sound. Viva Obama, Viva Los Estados Unidos!
I am a Latino and consider and your comments do not reflect how we all think. Above all we are Americans and making a distinction or claiming rights as an isolated group helps nobody. I challenged you just to come out with any example of how Obama had actually helped Latinos. He only appeals to them, like may other politicians, at election time with empty promises that are forgotten the next day. And for your information Ronald Reagan, a Republican, came out with the immigration reform in 1986 and twenty years later, George W. Bush, another Republican, try to do the same to no avail thanks to Senator Harry Reid, a Democrat from Nevada and leader of the majority in the senate who did not allow the proposal to go for a vote in the senate.
The president, in a good faith gesture to get an immigration bill, stepped up deportations to appease the GOP , who are constantly speaking of securing the border.George W. Bush, to his credit, tried to get a comprehensive immigration bill, but the GOP sunk their own president's bill because the extreme right -wing of the party, led by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and the like, went on an all-out campaign against it; and rejoiced when they got it defeated.Fast forward to now.Not long after the president took office, Lindsey Graham and John McCain( 2 former supporters of the Bush immigration bill that tanked) drew a line in the sand, and told the president that they, nor the rest of the GOP, weren't going to work on 2 issues with him-energy and immigration, the 2 that the president was appealing to them for
Neither party is perfect, but the GOP is driven by an ideology that is fundamentally opposed to getting a comprehensive immigration bill.The liklihood of that happening with the GOP in power is slim to none.
The wonder that in this great country we elected a Black Man to the highest office in the nation, is a testimony that the Hispanic community made a difference in History, and making this country better for all of us, when he inherited a total mess is something Hispanics should be proud of being a part of. Now we say, well if a black man can make it, now it is a Hispanics turn, Hope, is a great thing, and Obama has give hope not only to all Americans, but also to the whole world. Now he has a fight on his hands, fighting for Jobs, Benefits for persons being unemployed, Healthcare, better air to breath, taking care of our natural treasures, equal taxation. Maybe Herman" the Candy Man "Cain might be better.
Republicans do not hate people of hispanic descent. We DO despise people who are in this country illegally, however, and if you look really closely, you'll see that 99.9999999% of those people are not Scandinavian. We are SICK of paying for services for people who slither across our borders from places like Mexico and other Latin countries. Just because it's tough in those hell holes does NOT give people from there the right to come and steal from us.
Why do you (collectively) "despise" anyone? Your right to oppose illegal immigration and to aske your elected officials to do something about it (though it doesn't fit in with your fiscal conservativism, as deported 12,000,000 will cost a lot of money) does not need to be coupled with hatred. I oppose many things, but do not despise or hate the people who practice, legfally or illegally, those things. I was taught something about respecting all people regardless, but I guess I grew up with in a religious/Christian environment.
The forefathers of the majority of whites in this country came here from Europe, uninvited, and "stole"the land of the first real Americans; and put them on reservations out west, and i don't hear any outrage about that,nor anyone saying,"All of the descendants of the Pilgrims and Puritans are here, technically, illegally, so they need to figure out their places of origin, and go back, give the Indians their land back, and apply to come into America as any other immigrant would"..I'm tired of the moral superiority stance that so many people in this country have when it comes to those who cross the border illegally.I'm not condoning the breaking of the law, but I think that there needs to be a little more compassion and more leniency towards those who have come here illegally, and a comprehensive immigration that is in the best interests of both sides; and maybe more thought given to the truth about how all of us got us.
I was born in Los Angeles, CA. My mother is American and my father is Mexican. I consider myself Mexican-American (or a "Whitexikan") and proud to be an American.
First, I want to point out that I don't follow politics closely therefore I can't speak intelligently about it. However, after reading this article and reading several comments, I'd like to express my opinion about this issue.
I'm currently registered as a Democrat. I have never voted in any local elections but do cast my vote every 4 years for a Democratic Presidential candidate. Why? Because as a teenager, it was instilled in my head that Republicans hate Latinos and Democrats like Latinos.
I grew up in predominantly Latino communities and watched a lot of TV programs in Spanish that really made me believe what I mentioned above. I really didn't care about the issues at hand and didn't really know what each candidate's stance was on certain issues. As long as you were a "Democrat", you got my vote.
Looking back, I know it was an irresponsible way of casting a vote but I know that thousands if not millions have that same mentality.
What happened to just plain old American. If you do not want to be just an American and you want to be an
American – something, why do not you go to the land of something and do what you want there. We need to all get on the same road going in one direction and quit trying to go in 15 directions at once. It is too bad there are no more Charlie Bennett's out there who served this country for years as a Congressman and never once accepted a paycheck. I wonder what happened to patriots? I think maybe they turned into self-serving politician an the country is much poorer for it
Recently someone asked me, hey what do we have to do to get more opportunity in this country, especially for the Hispanic Community. I told him what got us here, things like the civil rights act, the voting rights act and so on. Why did Martin Luther King, John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Edgar E. and the hundreds of people that have died for these rights, who were they, you must look at the past to ensure that the same mistake is not made. Oh by the way all of these persons that died for what they believed in were Democrats.
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Many Hispanics are white not Latino, not having Indigenous ancestry. Take Ricky Martin or the Semitic Carlos Slim of Mexico. 'Latino' in Spanish refers to Latins in English, which is not the same thing as Latino (mixed with Pre-Columbian ancestry)
Do you really think Joe Arpaio or Jan Brewer really care about the various racial classification of brown people with black hair and black eyes? Surely you jest.
Most people, in general, do not understand this concept or care. Really.
Okay, now you're getting too complicated. It's hard enough to get people to understand that not every Hispanic is an immigrant. Explaining geneology is just too much. Even my chicano husband was floored when I told him he actually is classified as white.
Illegal immigration is bad, period. Who flips the bill? Legal immigrants, and citizens. Try going to Mexico illegally from say, Gautemala. You will be robbed, beaten, and incarcerated, if not thrown out immediately. Whoever thinks illegal immigration is good, ask those ignoramuses what their own country does to illegal immigrants, and as they stand their stupefied, ask them what it does to legal immigrants and citizens; again watch them with their mouth agape, no answer, just plain ignoramuses wanting free handouts.
The issue of illegal immigration is not just a "white" American problem, it effects Americans of all races. Think of the immigrants who are here legally. Why should people benefit the same as others who have done the hard work? Is immigration good for the US? Yes, it always has been. Is illegal immigration good for the US? No, not for the whites, browns, blacks, whatever. Let's find a way to at least slow the flow of illegals and then determine the fate of the ones here on a case by case basis. Allot of them have been here a long time and are a productive members of our society.
Stop labeling yourself! No on cares (or should care) that you are "Latino", whatever that is. Until that happens, you are doomed to your pathetic existence.
I can't wait for the demographic tidal wave to wash all of these bigots posting into obscurity. Face it; your day is done.
Then who would pay for everything?
Who would pay for everything? Everyone would pay but moreso the 1% would need to pay their fair share since they have been getting away with cheap illegal and/or free slave labor since the founding of our country.
Just can't wait to dump enough brown babies onto our soil, can you????
...couldn't tell the difference between Latino babies and your babies slathered in Hawaiian Tropic sun tan lotion on the soil.....(/snark)
Then it will become another third world country such as Mexico. Where will they go after destroying this country with their gangs, drugs, uneducated population, having so many children that at the end they will become like them and what is worse, supported by the government with the taxpayers money? Not a very bright future and the same thing is happening in Europe. Just go to London and you'd be horrified.
Ugh, i've read this lady's articles on several occassions, and i have come to the following conclusion. This lady can't help but trumpet her own ethnicity, as if it both explains and ratifies all her arguments/statements as solid fact. How utterly racial for a published writer and media spokesperson.
I agree with you and I am a Latino. She mentioned how Obama had helped the Latino community and I still don't have the faintest idea how. Ronald Reagan, a Republican, was the one who carried out the the immigration reform in 1986 and George W. Bush try to do the same in 2006 but Senator Reid, Democrat from Nevada, did not allow his proposal to go to the full senate for a vote. This woman makes a living doing this kind of comments that divide rather than unite us all. We are all Americans and that what we should consider ourselves.
Nice, you agree, but still perpetuate the problem. STOP calling yourself Latino. You are human, and an American. Period.
this is pure crappola.
this is pure crap.
By the way – you say that "...Senator Robert Menendez are as a representative of New Jersey. These jobs are bigger than the person that holds them and they must represent the interests of the country as a whole. By doing this, they not only represent America well, they represent Latinos well."
You had it right the first time – Menedez is a REPRESENTATIVE of New JERSEY and is thus supposed to represent the interests of New JERSEY, not America or Latinos. Senators represent their respective states and that means ALL THEIR STATES's citizens, not some subsection or the United States as a whole. Menedez is one of OUR representatives in the US government who works for the interests of New JERSEY. Sadly him and Lautnegbrg both do a really terrible job of it and really the 3rd and 4th senators of Naw Yawk.
One problem with your statements in the editorial. You routinely use the word "anti-immgrant". You ignore the fact that this has NOTHING to do with immigration – it has to do with ILLEGAL immigration. While I agree with Gingrich on the fact that it is not the fault of children who are brought over ILLEGAL, we do need to address the problem in two ways. We need to tighten up efforts against ILLEGAL immigration, while showing some compassion for the innocent children who were brought over ILLEGALLY by their parents. It seems that instead of Latinos wanting to be treated equal in terms of US immigration laws, they want special treatment.
of course they want special consideration...leftist idealogues from the hispanic community play their compadres like marionettes filling them with lies...like anti-illegal means anti-immigrant, which means hate and bigotry. These people will stop at nothing to build their voice in the halls of the Democratic Party and to increase their power and their access to patronage. Tens of millions of illegals in any language and in any place is just plain abusive....and any nation, including Mexico and China, have the right and the responsibility to do something about it. But La Raza would have us believe the U.S. does not have that right because hispanic illegals are somehow a protected group. hogwash!
Excuse me Maria,
Illegal s have left a bad taste in my mouth. I am sick of them protesting that they have a right to be here in the U.S. They have no rights except to point themselves to the border and follow their nose's until they are out of the Country. I have no problem with them all coming back on a legal work permit or applying for and becoming a citizen however. Yes we have latino's that are different from each other. Same with every other race on the planet.
Am latino proud one and let me say thanks to this country for opening the doors for my family and I. I am in the military service am proud to do it as a latino. but if us as latinos we don't get involve in the and future elections then we only can foult ourselfs for not voting and let others (Republicans and Democrats) that we do have the power to make changers in this country of ours.... You go Maria Cardona
i agree with you 100% i am also in the military i plan to retie with in the next 12 month and in order for us to make changes ONE LATINO has to start by running for office and plan to be he. We don't need one of these black civil rights leaders to speak for us, we have our own voice our own concerns they do not walk in the shoes of us Hispanic Americans. I want to be the voice for all Latinos.
Who said that you needed a black civil rights leaders to speak for your community? I'm sorry but I didn't read anything about Latinos needing a black civil rights leader in Ms. Cardona's article. of that in the article. Nor did Ms. Cardona make any comparisons between blacks and latinos....that was all your doing.-Assuming something that wasn't even there.
By the way, there are no black civil rights leader. He died in 1968 and his name was Martin Luther King Jr. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.
Gracias Obama! Viva Sotomayor!
In case there is a mistake, our president is Black civil rights leader, and he appoints the chief justices, go back to school, before you try to teach. I'd rather be with Obama, than with Rick Perry, or the other bunch of Gofers.
Correction: There are no Civil Rights Leader today. The last Civil Rights Leader was Martin Luther King Jr and he died some 43 years ago.
What makes Latino's different?
You're a breathing human being who eats, craps, and sleeps.
Generally, we all just want to live happy meaningful lives and die knowing we did our best.
It's cool to have your own culture, but quit defensively dividing yourself based off that. In the end we aren't that different.
I know exactly what Cordona is talking about...I feel the same way when there is someone in office representing my Anglo-Saxon interests and my Irish interests (sounds kind of racist doesn't it?). But in the end, I am most proud of the person in office that represents my "American" heritage and interests. I am pretty sure that is how Thomas Jefferson saw things...without a melting pot where all races and cultures join to form an "American" identify the grand experiment called the United States would likely fail to exist.
We're so sick of hearing about your RACIST latino selfishness. Us regular plain old Americans should band together and say yeah, we're the American party, forget about Minority coddling Dems and Rich protector Republicans and put people in office who aren't playing the race card
what a stupid article. there are so many different kinds of latinos. cubans are completely different from mexicans, puerto ricans, dominicans, etc.. it is unfair to assume that just because they are all latinos, they all want the same things out of life or work. do all christians feel alike on every issue? and, stop calling illegal aliens illegal immigrants. they are not immigrants, legal or otherwise.
im·mi·grant [im-i-gruhnt]
noun
1.
a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
now look up illegal immigrent – the migration into a nation in violation of the immigration laws of that jurisdiction
Latinos who make no distinction between illegal and legal immigration entirely miss the point that Republicans and many Democrats are talking about. Intentionally, I think.
What happened to just plain old American. If you do not want to be just an American and you want to be an
American – something, why do not you go to the land of something and do what you want there. We need to all get on the same road going in one direction and quit trying to go in 15 directions at once. It is too bad there are no more Charlie Bennett's out there who served this country for years as a Congressman and never once accepted a paycheck. I wonder what happened to patriots? I think maybe they turned into self-serving politician an the country is much poorer for it.
What happened to just plain old American. If you do not want to be just an American and you want to be an
American – something, why do not you go to the land of something and do what you want there. We need to get all on the same road going in one direction and quit trying to go in 15 directions at once. It is too bad there are no more Charlie Bennett's out there who served this country for years as a Congressman and never once accepted paycheck. I wonder what happened to patriots? I think maybe they turned into self-serving politician in the country is much poorer for it.
Good comment. This stuff of saying I am a Hispanic and "we" have to stick together is the kind of stuff which will balkanize the US. Latinos are great, but if they come to join us they should (and often do) really join us. This article is simply a bad idea.
Self- serving politicians and self-serving minorities -a perfect match.
I love seeing the post from people who claim that only African-Americans and illegal immigrants love and depend on welfare and are afraid of working for an honest buck. Who do you see on the bus stop at 3am going to work? Who cleaned your hotel room on your last vacation? Go look in the kitchen of your favorite restaurant and who will you see? I didn't know that welfare handed out checks in front of Home Depot. African-Americans worked for free for hundreds of years building this country. I am African-American with no political party affiliation. I am educated and I have a great career as a professional. I paid my own way through college and I have never, I repeat never benefited from any form of affirmative action. I agree with those people that say take away welfare. Why? Because we are resilient people. We are survivors. I guarantee you that African-Americans and Latinos could easily transition from being on welfare. We already know how to work hard. We DO work hard already. People have a short-term memory here. After Rosa Parks happened, African-Americans stopped riding the buses. White people laughed as they saw hundreds of people walking to work. Until, there were not enough people riding and paying fares to support the bus drivers, maintain the buses, etc. The bus companies went bankrupt because they falsely assumed that the "Lower" people depended on them so much. So, keep perpetuating the myth of laziness and welfare dependance. At the end of the day, we are the survivors. People who have had it easy don't know how to deal when things get hard. Look at the occupy. Not a lot of dark skin there. for the first time, a bad economy has affected those who were previously shielded from the type of financial pain that most dark people face everyday. Remember the war on drugs? It only became a war when white suburban kids started to OD, then Nancy Reagan just said no.
You've omitted the fact that one can work and still qualify for public assistance. The illegals are quite adept at working this scam in my state of NM. Once they have an anchor baby the kid gets Medicaid and other assistance and the social services are loathe to deport them. Since most state workers are Hispanic (in my state) they look the other way. Corruption is inherent in their culture.
Aside from the fact that 'this country has not been around for hundreds of years and slavery ended over a hundred years ago, and I am no more responsible if my ancestors abused yours than I am that my parents did abuse me. Who DO you see here illegally taking the jobs of less fortunate African Americans? Who DO you see illegally here taking jobs needed by American citizen's children of any color or ethnicity who do not get to go to college. Who, are so fearful of deportation that they will allow themselves to be abused so much that nasty employers prefer them? All that is what these divisive tactics to keep illegal immigration going are about.
I do see your point. Slavery was going on as this country was becoming a country and lasted through the actual declaration of America as a country. And believe me, I am not one of those "Your people did this to my people" types. I was using the background to demonstrate my point about being a strong resilient people.
Thanks I appreciate your reply and agree with your point. Very true. And I noticed that the country is a little over 200 years old. Sorry about that.
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Hispanics are hated because most of them absolutely ignore the problem with illegal immigrant and even use it to shout their agendas on racism. Absolutely ridiculous.
This is harshly stated as though every Hispanic is a traitorous fool. Excessive immigration is destructive in hard times and our elected officials should at least use the existing laws to stop employers from motivating it by hiring any new illegals of any ethnicity. The Hispanic candidates who value these immigrants over the rest of us, picture the rest of us as being "white' and are themselves raciest monsters. There are already a number of these in Congress and the state legislatures.
Why do the pro illegal natural assume all Hispanics support illegal immigration?
there is a difference between Illegal and Legal immigration. All sides of the immigration debate need to recognize that distinction in order to hold productive debate.
if the Congress care about America’s immigration system. you can start by removing wet foot, dryfoot" policy, in terms of allowing Cuban refugees that racist.
Amen! My congressional representative's office calls my home frequently with questions about our views on immigration. I keep telling them my Hispanic husband's views on immigration are much the same as any other American. He's concerned about the cheap labor and losing his job to an illegal who would do it for half the pay. The poller/caller usually says "um, what?" And the irony is that I live in the same nieghborhood as my Congressman. I could walk to his house.
"Arizona’s Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio – arguably the most anti-immigrant law enforcement officer in the nation." Not true! He is against ILLEGAL-immigrants big difference!
Actually, sheriff Joe is anti-Hispanic, he doesn't care of the legal status or citizenry, just that the person is tan. He's also a thug and a bully towards anyone that speaks out against him.
I dont see too many latinos looking for a handout in the OWS protests... We are a hard working people!
Its so amusing to me how much hate people have towards the Hispanic community. Too bad they will pretend to like us when we are face to face.
The hate is in your mind. Set yourself free.
I'm Dominican and the hate IS in your mind! No one is out to get you, get over yourself!
I won't pretend to like you, face-to-face.
Ok
Not so. When I call you what you are in Kroger's or on the street you just have to take it because you're scared.
Only if you could put the time invested in blogging to good use. Hate all you want pal, but the fact is that you can't do anything about what is going on all around you and each day Hispanic people such as myself are deciding your future.
"Too bad they will pretend to like us when we are face to face."
Sorta like what you do when you meet an Anglo? I know your "culture" well, vato. You can drop the phony pretense.
I don't pretend to like anyone "yo". If I meet an Anglo and smile it's not pretending, it's called being human and it's because I am winning. I don't have a problem with white people in general as I have many white clients, friends, neighbors etc. I have a problem with whites who hide behind a keyboard blabbing off about Hispanics. I have lived here all my life and not one white person has said any of this to my face.
Your fear is the antecedent of hate. Very very few Hispanics even dislike the rest of us, but some are afraid in the same way as you. The big problem with dividing ourselves into ethnic groups is that people will always think like you. That is the source of the balkanization that will take place if this crazy Hispanics must join together stuff continues. But, once again Hispanics do not hate you and they are not faking friendliness.
Free, like the handouts you offer of which I do not qualify for due to my large income? Or free like the land our govt claimed manifest destiny over? Maybe it was manifest destiny to have so many illegals here?
If your parents slithered across our borders illegally and dumped you onto US soil, come see me. I'll tell you, face to face, what I think of them AND you.
Get a life loser...
Illegal immigrants and immigrants are two totally different things. Something this author, liberals, and the ignorant conveniently dismiss.
Don't lump everyone into one category. I'm a liberal and yet I don't support illegal immigration, instead I just think we should raise the quota on how many people we will let in. You see we have a limit on how many immigrants we will allow into this nation. Thus if raised a lot of the illegal immigration and problems that come with it would disappear because they would become American citizens who pay taxes and do everything we do and legally. Illegal immigrants on the other hand shouldn't be here because they broke the law and crossed an international border. As such they should be treated that way and sent back. But many immigrants are legal and pay their taxes and are just like you and I. So please, remember that even in groups their is diversity and disagreement.
If you really think the government is going to find and deport over 12 million illegal immigrants, I have some swampland in Florida I want to sell you. First, many of the immigrants who are here now have established a life for several years. Second, many have children that are going to school and in a post high school programs. These are college educated kids that need to contribute to this country. Why are we going to pay educate them to simply deport them? To say let's kick them out is idiotic. At this point in time, immigration reform is desperately needed. Both democrats and republicans are at fault for not taking care of this issue. I agree that we need to find ways to minimize the inflow of immigrants but attempting to remove those that are here would be a waste of resources. I say let's give amnesty to those that have been paying their taxes, have committed no crimes, and have been contributing to our society. Make them prove they've been in this country for minimum of 5 years. Anyone who earned a college degree in the states in a highly specialized field such as in science or medicine should also receive amnesty. Of course those that have criminal records or have recently migrated here should not be given amnesty. Although I am of hispanic heritage, I am an American first.
How many times do we grant amnesty, or "immigration reform" as you call it. As long as we allow an exception every time, the cycle will continue. Until when -we're a half billion or more? The promise of new waves of Hispanic doctors, engineers and scientists is a myth. Hasn't happened in any significant numbers for generations.
We already get to laugh when they get foreclosed on and move out of the neighborhood. No more heating help for them this winter either.
Why not drop the term illegal immigrants altogether and start talking about illegal employers ?
Because all illegal immigrants don't work?
its not worth worrying about those that do not work – their numbers are marginal.
We do NOT refer to ourselves as Hispanics or Hispanos outside of the US. That's term the US invented.
Why not drop the "Latino" reference altogether and just become "American". If you're not an "American" then go home to whatever squalid third world nation you came from and get your nose out of our business. Only Americans can vote in this country.
Wow, is this really what you wanted to say?
Right!, why make such a big deal about it? Even in the 2010 Census they write "Latino". As far as I know, Latin Americans don't "identify" themselves as "latinos". In fact, the word "latino" has taken a new meaning to identify Americans who have "Latin American" background. So it does not necessarily only imply to people from a certain race obviously
So its ok to eat Italian (Pizza) and Polish (Hot Dog) but its not ok to eat Mexican Tacos or Puerto Rican Pastelillos. Not to mention Puerto Rican is part of the USA and are American Citizens.
So you can say New York American but Not Puerto Rican American because then thats identifying yourself, Right?
Republicans will terminate the government programs of welfare, food stamps, social security, medicare, medicaid, pensions, epa, public housing, senior care and minimum wage controls. This looks good to Latinos?
Free money, food, medical care, housing, elderly care...wow. Looks good to me! But, uh, who's gonna pay for it? Unless you're trying to tell Latinos that they're flat out hillbilly stupid, what are you trying to say?
As a veteran with a spanish surname I feel that associating oneself with any other country other than the one we live in, i.e. USA is just plain stupid. There is nothing wrong with understanding one's origins, but one's pride should be in the flag that flies over this land. Unfortuately there are too many wacko's that write articles like this that make communities seem like unpatriotic socialists. Do yourself a favor lady and get off your "latina" soap box and get a clue. You're either American or not, you can't be both; to tell youth that you can is moronic and unpatriotic. Encourage your children to join the military and have them serve, and see if they come back saying they are Latinos or Columbian Americans. I doubt the latter will happen, because they will have learned the cost of protecting this nation against enemies foreign and domestic. Look deep into your article and go find yourself lady. Iraq Veteran
If you really are a veteran, you should have noticed that the percentage of those serving with you who have Spanish surnames far exceeds their ratio in the nation's population. If you want further proof, go count the number of Spanish surnames on the Vietnam Memorial Wall, then stop insulting us by telling us to have our kids enlist.
The point isn't how many of any ethnicity there are. The point is they're all Americans. Pull you head out.
We urge these politicians to STOP dividing us into groups for their own gains, and treat us as AMERICANS
Right on man. These folks scream about racism, but then look for every opportunity to divide. You hit the nail on the head.
Well said sir – and thank you for serving! I stopped reading this article as soon as she called the AZ Sheriff anti-immigration. Personally, it absolutely sickens me when people can't separate legal immigration from illegal! The more the left side pushes "Latino's", the further they will continue to promote racism – albeit they'll continue to call the other side racists. If you're a citizen, I could care less if you're purple with pink dots – as long as you take pride in being an American (and responsibility for your actions). If you're hear illegally – I could care less if you're the friendliest white Irishman at the pub – shut up and get out.
How about Latinos voting for the candidate who believes in protecting their rights, rather than robbing other peoples of theirs? Also, if you are here illegally, then you are breaking the law and should be arrested like anyone else who breaks the law.
No matter what your nationality...you should not be in this country illegally. Period...consequences are known if you are caught no matter how long you are here. Latino's have no more right to enter the country illegally than any other nationality.
Sorry, but they will continue to come and there is not a thing you can do to stop it! LOL
Successful Anchor – There is plenty we can do to stop it. 1. Shut off the jobs magnet, 2. Shut off the social services magnet, 3. Watch the illegals (and their political power) leave.
Successful Anchors comments reflect what most Americans abhor most about illegals. It's bad enough to trample our laws, and immigration policies, but then to flagrantly wave it in our faces as though there is 'nothing we can do about it'. Patience for illegals is running very thin, despite our politicians penchant for pandering to them.
If people unite and create a movement you can change things. Is it likely – no. Is there anything that you, alone of with a few friends and family can do? – no. Even if you close the borders and kick out illegals, you can't stop us from spreading our seed in this fertile land. I hope you live another 25 years to see what I'm talking about.
Prove it, because you're wrong. "Latino/Latina" just means "Person of Latin-American descent".
(no, I 'm Hispanic. Or black, or white).
I agree. It would be one thing if we had our doors closed to immigration, but thousands of legal immigrants enter our country each year. They follow the law, and become US citizens. Then you have people sneaking in the back door, breaking the laws of our country and we should just accept it? Not only is it unfair to those that follow our system, but if you are a person that has no regard for the laws of the country you are living in, then I don't think you deserve to be a citizen nor live here.
The first mistake the government made was to come up with the "hispanic" or "latino" word to lump anyone and everyone who speaks Spanish in this hemisphere together. There is no such country as Hispania!
The reasons for being in the US is as big and wide and different as thedifferent dialects, language and customs.
Illegal means illegal in any language. Why is this so hard to understand? I would add that I would like to see people from other countries (who are white) also made to leave the country and have the government treat them just like the brown people. Racism is everywhere.
"There is no such country as Hispania!" Um . . . what's the Spanish word for Spain? I do believe it is Hispania. I could be wrong . . .
Uh, no, it's Espana.
Hispania would be the Latin root of Spain/Espana. Though when the Romans used it the reference was to the entire Iberian peninsula.
There were two states in the Roman Empire named Hispania. The lower one was the bottom half of Spain and Portugal and the higher one was Northern Spain and Southern France. Hispanic is not a race. You are either black, white, indian, or asian. What language you speak has no bearing. Spanish people are white. If your family originates from Spain then you are white. We don't force English people to put down Anglo-Saxon. We don't force Irish people to put down Celtic. We don't force Swedish people to put down Nordic. We don't force Polish people to put down Slavic. French, Italians and Portuguese are also Latins. Why don't they have to specify?
Get over it.. black people are African American and most of us have no relation at all to anything in Africa..
This articles fails, as it tries to put a spin on immigration being a republican democrat divide. Hardly. Over 70% of Americans want illegals sent back. That makes it impossible to ignore the obvious.
Ms. Cardona maybe you should start thinking as an American and not a Democratic Latina. I don't run around saying I'm Italian where is the Italian agenda? I say that I am American and proud to be such. I want our laws to be followed not broken. I am all for immigration but LEGAL immigration. You sound as un-American as they come. Your agenda is to support your race not your country. It is people like you who are destroying the US.
Thank you Laura. I too am Italian and remember how in our Italian neighborhoods the Italian flag never flew without an American flag. We can also proudly say that our grandparents made our parents learn and speak english as their primary language. That is what made America strong. A true melting pot. Now we are divided by political correctness.
Sorry but your Italian family when they first got here probably didnt know English and they probably committed most of the crimes duh! It takes time for the generations to grow into the Americans way of life but it does happen..So I guess your family got here went through the growing pains- now others shouldn't get that same chance... That's fair. Oh yeah "legally" they came over – seriously – times were different then. You got to the US you got your card and worked-that's how it used to work
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The biggest problem is that you identify yourself as Latino(a) first, and American second.
Until you identify as American first, you will always marginalize yourself.
exactly... like w/ some jewish people we have a case of a very pronounced double loyalty here...
I've been saying for a long time, we're going tribal. No longer melting, but each get their own. We can sustain it.
Amen
Come on people, the Hispanic/Latino term is coined by the US government, it has no real meaning at all. People come here and/or grow up here and mold themselves into the sterotype.
There is no logical reason why everyone who happens to speak Spanish can all be classified as one group. We do not see that with any scenario. The US even classifies Chinese, Pakistanis, and Indians the same. The US has the most ridiculous racial classification laws, they are contrary to all logic.
If you vote because you think this is how your "group" is suppose to vote, then you are an indiot and should not be voting. For example, in the military, it is always a surprise when someone votes democrat "you cannot be in the military and vote democrat", as if being in some group suppose to make you vote one way or another.
Hispanics are so varied, it is ridiculous to classify everyone as one group. The term Latino is even more ridiculous as that means more to many people than just being Hispanic, can mean being from italy, Brazil, ect, countries that a person from is not considered Hispanic.
Well said.
You go girl! America doesn't need to pigeon hole Latinos anymore than Italians, Jews, Wasps, or any identified ethnic type are pigeon holed.
Perhaps the principle error with your opinion is that we are not all one group. We have never been a race, rather we are an ethnic origin (Hispanic – for Hispaniola) and we are one as a language (spanish). To say we need one voice is ridiculous, as we cannot even agree on a name to describe ourselves, Latino (short for Latin American) or Hispanic. Cubans, for example, do not consider themselves Latinos, they consider themselves Hispanic, and tend to vote Conservatively as they are refugees in this country who fled Communism. Mexicans came here for economic aspirations, as did many from Central and South America.
The racial demographics are incredibly different as well. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Spaniards are predominantly white, and identify themselves as such. Mexicans, Venezuelans, Columbians, Peruvians, Hondurans, and Guatemalan however, are racially and visibly different, consisting of over 50% of their populations being Mestizo (a mix between white and Native American).
The Socioeconomic levels between the different Spanish speaking peoples of this country are incredibly polarized as well. Many Venezuelan and Cubans fled their native lands oppressed by communism and succeeded in this country, as is apparent if one drives down South Florida and sees the number of millionaires from those countries. The opposite exists in rural parts of Texas, on the McAllen border for example, where high crime rates and low percapita exists. This naturally breeds differences in what the different Hispanic groups desire in their elected officials.
To say we need one voice in the Hispanic/Latino community is like saying the French speakers need one voice. Those from Haiti, Rwanda or Morocco, coming from absolute poverty, and those from Canada, France and Switzerland, all voting one way. It will never happen.
CNN or FOX NEWS should hire you instead of the empty heads they currently employ. Extremely well reasoned and thoughtful post. Thank you it was a pleasure reading it.
Oh stop it Rinaldo, you know what you're talking about and making too much sense. You'll do what the Democrats say and like it.
Kudos to you!! Well spoken. I am so sick and tired of those people not knowing what they want to be called. I am from S. Texas originally and when I was growing up and in school, Mexicans (as they were called then) wanted to be called just that – Mexicans! They didn't cry out for their culture and most, if not all, wanted to learn the ways of Americans as they were proud to be here and be a part of the community! The spoke with no accent and were a great asset to our town! What happened??
Great post Rinaldo!
Well Rinaldo.. go and fix it.. but you would be wasting your time.. Brazilians are the largest population of people in South America and they aren't Latinos or Hispanics..
So whatever you can do to fix it.. good luck... for someone who seems as smart as you, there are other battles to be fought.. you may want to address those first.
The sad thing is that too many American citizens and legal residents who happen to be Latino and against illegal immigration are not heard in the media. At best it may the a single quote or VERY short sound bite at the end of video just to try to make the story seem balanced.
A Pew Center report comparing data from 2007 & 2010 show that Latinos think that the illegal immigrant have have a positive effect on those already legally in the country went from 50% to only 31% and that illegal immigration had a negative effect on those illegally in the country went from 20% to 31%.
Agree !!! And they need to stop being a hyphenated American.
The term hyphenated American was first used by Theodore Roosevelt and he was not referring to folks from south of the border. He was pushing for the then current wave of immigrants, Italians, Irish, etc. to assimilate and embrace their new country. It took a few more years, but that has pretty well happened. It seems to me that we need to have a little patience with our latest immigrant cohort, and I'm willing to bet history will repeat. In fact, many of our first born already have only a rudimentary acquaintance with Spanish and no memory or loyalty to their parents' homeland.
Shame on you if you are not teaching your children Spanish! Two languages is worth several years more of education.
How about teaching Chinese as well as our notional language?
As a Latino i think your article is full of CRAP, you only advocate for Latinos that are of your political persuasion, why not mention the Republican Latinos that I and my Family identify with? I am proud to be Latino and to be a REPUBLICAN. the Democratic party is one that keeps handing a crutch to the majority of minorities. we need people to EMPOWER themselves via education and take risks. Start being inclusive to what the Republican party has done for Latinos and then we can talk.
great post............
We can start with the laws the republicans passed in Arizona, South Carolina and Alabama. I'm sure Latinos are thankful that Republicans passed those laws.
Jim, i live in SC and yes i am GLAD and voted for the law.
yeah, the ones that got here legally don't want everyone else to FOLLOW THE LAW!!!!!!! think before you type.........
I'm certainly glad – I just wish the American would let them be enforced!
You know that those laws are agains ILLEGALS right? Not Latinos. Why is it that people think Latinos don't have to follow the law just because they are Latino? And you think everyone else is racist?
I completely concur with your opinion. As evident by my comment.
I agree too the law is not 'against' the Latino's at all
Luis Vazquez,
I call BS
As a citizen...you couldn't have voted for "the law" as law are passed by the state house and state senate.
Are you sure you're not some teapublican pretending to be Hispanic?
what, exactly, has the republican party done for 'latinos' in the way you have described? cut funding for public schools? cut afterschool and library budgets?
Dude, Stop voting against your interest. When was the last time a republican came out with a policy that benefits anyone other than the well off, nevertheless Latinos. Hispanic, Latino or whatever you want to refer to yourself as, are a great ethnic group of proud people with a long history of suppression and dominance. We should see that for what it is and realize that the diversity of the Democratic Party (while the party itself still needs some work) is still far superior that of the republicans in terms of lifting up EVERYONE and not just those that have been fortunate to have been born into higher economic standing. The policies of the republican ideology are highly skewed towards those that have control over others by any means they can...they hide in the guise of independence and self determination. In reality, they want everyone to think they have a chance of reaching their dreams through free enterprise with little or no regulation. How's that working out....look where where at with republican policies.
I respect you as a person, that you would want to align with this poisonous ideology. But I will also question your loyalty to yourself. Ask yourself how you have benefited from republican ideology and policy.
If you're going to talk about education....talk about how Democratic ideals that education should be affordable and not cut....like repubs want to do. They cut everything that helps the typical Hispanic/Latino/Latina could utilize to reach their dreams. Talking republican and education.....is like an oxymoron. And, take a good look at the makeup of the repub party......almost guarantee you more than 90% white, aging male....afraid of losing socioeconomic power to the fastest growing population of hard working people. Please, if you're going to talk about diversity...its NOT the republican party.
Well Luis.. anytime you choose a political party you marginalize yourself..
You may not feel this way, but public perception is that Latinos are only Latinos to the GOP when they need their votes. The rest of the time they are all illegals who need to be deported, anchor babies, and cheap labor..
That public perception exists thanks to anyone and everyone at Fox News.. which is the official GOP propaganda network..
I agree with you, Luis Vazquez! Maria Cardona does NOT mention Marco Rubio (R, FL) perhaps out of fear that WE, Latinos, Hispanics, or whatever they want to call us, may get the idea of looking at the other side of the mental "wire fence" in which we have been placed. I pray that some day, someone in our community has the audacity to speak to our people and say: "Enough, brothers and sisters. Let's work hard to build back our communities in our own coutries. Let's go complain there, not here" I believe the USA is not the reason why Latin America is broke and out of control. The reason is the corruption within. By the way, if Latin American people feel the need to blame some one for their miseries, why not complain to Spain and Europe. Last I checked, they are the ones who destroyed our ancient cultures, they raped and brought disease to our ancestors. NOT the USA. There's a reason why our last names are Gomez, Lopez, and Hernandez, NOT Smith, Jones, and McDonald...
I'm sorry, but any minority who would vote GOP is simply voting against their own interests, plain and simple, cut and dry. And as always, the only reason....ONLY reason I can ever see that would cause a minority to vote conservative is because of religious beliefs.
Sad really, because the author implies that Latino's have matured and evolved in their understanding of their political standing in this country, but really, they are just as duped by fake religious conservatives into voting for the party that despises them.
QS are you Latino?? If not then you have no clue as to why we vote the way we do. You do realize that some people that oppose abortion are Atheists? Your position is simple minded.
while not Latino myself, I have spent ten years teaching in latino communities. I have found that there are large percents in several communities (Cicero, IL for example) who are conservative. Many of my students who favored republicans would usually cite immigration as why. they tended to be third generation or later immigrant kids who helped in family run small businesses. They felt democrat taxes and loose immigration policies hurt their communities by allowing newer immigrants to keep their own wages down and to devalue their social services.
The idea that a minority can only vote liberal except for religious issues is naive at best. The only major immigrant group that has not established itself within the American system by the 3rd generation has been the Latino population. Irish, German, Italian, Russian – Jewish, etc all were established by the third generation. Latino's have been here since the 1840's and are still struggling. I blame loose immigration policies. illegals do not hurt my job chances, quality of life, or anything of that matter. They do, however, hurt those of my legal Latino students.
hey just tell me where you grandparents from? do you believe white americans they are not giong to be races with you?look at your name,even do you are republican its not going to help you,republican party is against latinos,hispanic you named legal or illegal
Here's the problem, as I've mentioned, you actually buy into a republican telling you they'll do more on immigration when in reality they only say it to get elected, just like democrats. Because really nobody knows what to do about immigration other than the nonsense ideas coming from conservatives like electric fences and whatnot.
And so you're casting your vote for a conservative for one, maybe two social issues, and probably don't even realize just how badly you're being screwed on the fiscal side of conservative policies.
contrary to liberal thinking....most latino's are hard working and don't want the goverments handouts like the rest of you lazy losers......
Mmm hmm, keep telling yourselves that. Not my fault you fall for the conservative line of BS that they feed you. It is however your fault when you vote these people in and they make your lives worse. Don't say I didn't warn you.
that’s the core problem with you liberals.....you really believe the GOVERMENT should be able to or can "make your lives miserable". We believe the government should stay out of our lives and just do what they are supposed to....protect our borders, create and maintain and Army, and build roads.....besides that, buzz off. The states can do the rest.
QS i really don't care if you believe me or not, but i have a Wonderful life and make a VERY nice living. I have always voted Republican and will continue to do so.
Ahhh, now I understnad. I should have thought of that when I made my original comment. Here, I'll amend:
"Any minority who would vote GOP is simply voting against their own interests, plain and simple, cut and dry. And as always, the only reason....ONLY reason I can ever see that would cause a minority to vote conservative is because of religious beliefs."
Correction: The MAIN reason I can see a minority voting conservative is because of their religious beliefs, but just below that reason is being rich, since republicans do tend to do so much more for the rich than anybody else....if anybody else.
There, fixed. 🙂
This was the best piece of comedy I have read in some time.
Under what rock you people grawled out of? I am amazed at how quickly you paint a person a racist when at the root of your thinking and the bases of your conclusions lies the very fabric of what made this country great. Keep a people down and take what you know you can get away with. Republican core thinking. Devisive at its foundation and fearful of the growing numbers that will make you insignificant in future elections-the racist is in the flipside of your backward thinking.
So instead take the Democratic stance. Take from producers and give to everyone that will support us politically at the polls. Have no stance on anything, and say OK to every feel good measure that comes along.
Racist? Funny how Democrats and those that support them expect everyone to choose. Be an American or be a Latino? Therein lies the biggest problem. Why can't you be an American first? What does the color of one's skin matter. It matters because the democrats can continue to use it as a means to power.
Bill & Bob both make good points. The pity is that neither seems to see the truth the other is promoting. What truth? The truth that the dems and the reps are two heads of the same lying snake. We've been sold out by both parties and are about to be treated to yet another presidential dog and pony show. When will America wise up and try something else? SECESSION.
Bob,
The very fabric of what made this country great includes a set of laws that need to be respected. That should not be a Democrat or Republican way of thinking. Immigration is fine, if it is broken, fix it-but that does not necessarily include "letting the people who came to the party without an invitation, stay."
"The problem will not be fixed until we pass comprehensive immigration reform, and we have the Republicans to thank for the lack of it." Obama had a Domocrat party controlled Congress for two years and did NOT make a proposal on immigration reform! STOP blaming the Republicans for Obama's choice to not move ahead on this when he could have, just like healthcare.
"When you are in a position to direct public policy, who are you first and foremost? When do you represent Latinos and when do you represent all Americans?" Public policy should NEVER be determined by cultural background/race – that is what makes for racism!
Sorry for the typo–Democrat
Define "Latino".
US Census Latino Population numbers:
34+ Million Mexicans in the USA versus 1 million Salvadorians then the numbers drop dramatically to an average of 200,000 per each Latin American of Central and South American origin.
You tell me who and what represents "Latino" in the USA because the majority seems to be in it for themselves.
While I agree there is an air of racism in this message from the author, how is it an different than what we here from African-American opinions? It's not. Yes be proud of your heritage, but stop making it the focus of political agendas. Stop assuming that every time someone is anti-illegal immigration, that they are anti-immigration or worse, anti-latino. Illegal aliens come from all over the world, just ask the president. I'm anti-illegal alien and I'm of hispanic heritage. It doesn't make me a hipocrit, just supportive of being an American legally.
great post......do you liberals understand what he is saying?
Newt is a serial adulterer and hypocrite! He uses his religion and new found immigration views to get votes and raise more money. Newt, the ex-congressman from my district and is the king of the phony GOP family values. He joined the Catholic Church for pure self-serving politics. He wanted to try to distance himself from his Southern Baptist base and he wanted to identify with voters on a more national and international basis.
I am an American. And also a Latina, but I don't feel the need to go around telling people I am "Mexican – American" or other divisive categorization. I do not condone the use of my or anyone elses race or gender to further any ideology or agenda. We should care about being judged by the merit of our work and character. I understand Gingrich is taking a pragmatic approach to dealing with ILLEGALS in this country. Doesn't mean I agree with him but do understand it's practical implications. I just wish our government would hurry up and solve the illegal immigration problem. I am tired of our government looking the other way and letting so many get away with being here ILLEGALLY
Thank you Cecilia!
You hit nail on the head but members of the media prefer you don't think for yourself. You see, you are required to think like this author, and blacks like Sharpton. Not that she's sterotyping or anything. Never.
super great post..........please, one of you liberals call Cecilia a racist.....she is for the LEGAL way......wierd huh?
I am down for building a wall across the the US borders not for the reason you might think. It would put people to work in those areas. All across the Northearn States that border Canada and all those across the South that border Mexico. It would be contruction jobs. I meen the Hoover Damn and building of our highways and rail road. Has always helped those who can't find work.
Hundreds of miles long a perhaps ten feet thick. It take a long time to build which would be good. A long sustained job that would employee hundreds of thousands. An then maintaining the wall and all that. Its putting Americans to work while at the same time benefiting national security.
Walls won’t help – While you’re building the giant wall ten other guys are building bigger and taller ladders. Put CEO’s, corporate executives and business owners in jail for hiring illegal workers and if the jobs aren’t there the people won’t come.
Born and raised in South America, became a US Citizen 100% legally and I am a proud Republican!
Born and raised North American, with my roots also in South American, I may actually be "double American"! AND I'll be voting Republican!
Born and raised in the Good Ole USA, parents from PR. have always voted Republican and will do so next election. Until the Democratic stops spending our money i will not vote for them!!!
I'm proud of your accomplishments!!
Maybe you should think about voting simply as an American rather than part of some ethnic group. Why does it always have to be about race and ethnicity? Oh yeah, so we can keep the racial divide in place. And that is exactly what Maria Cardona is doing.
Exactly. You can't vote with the candidate who aligns best with you (you know since illegals aren't supposed to be voting) overall. You MUST be Democrat to be a valued minority apparently. Lesser of two evils exists on both sides just like the greater of two evils does. How about we vote as Americans that will lead America back to prosperity? Illegal immigration right now is so far removed from a main bullet point, this article is almost insulting.
Oh Lady, get over yourself!!!!
Another corporate cheap labor shill.....
The fact that you label yourself a Latina is the root of the problem.
As long as we look to our races to identify us, there will be racism.
The author is only perpetuating racism.
Good call, it is finally coming to light that "Latinos" are the biggest racists on the planet.
We are an important part of the future of this country. Every time Republicans attack the Hispanics they are slowing the future, but they can't stop it. Is like the old man trying to stop the wave with his hands. Sadly, most of them just spread fear and confusion based on despair and frustration. They think they are losing a country that was never theirs. This country belongs to all of us.
Yes, the future of a perpetual insular underclass that always seem to want an exception for everything. You'll breed to demographic dominance but Anglos as usual will do the heavy lifting. Your culture doesn't invent, engineer or create (except in pop culture). Nearly everything you enjoy today is of Western/European origin but Latinos have the audacity to claim credit cause they mow some lawns and pour some concrete. I've seen the future here in New Mexico and it'd looking just like Mexico every day.
Wilko, I needed a good laugh. In case you didnt know the Hispanic population is growing faster than ever in this country and soon the tables will turn – even for you. Anglos mow my lawn every week for $20, bag my groceries and wash my cars. They also installed my sprinklers in the hot New Mexico sun with picks and shovels. All while I stayed indoors enjoying some lemonade and watching TV. God Bless America!
Republicans attacking Latino's as a whole? No. Republicans attacking Latino's crossing the border illegally from Mexico / Central Amerca? Definitely. The irony is that this country belonged to them before it belonged to the descendants of white Europeans... Just sayin'...
This woman, her ideology and opininons about "latinos" are ABSOLUTELY FRIGHTENING! It is obvious by her "racist" writings that the objectives of her and her ilk are to promote the Latino Agenda, not the best interests of America. This is why we need strict enforcement of our immigrations laws NOW!
Democrats are leading the charge of divisiveness, be it black or hispanic. There will come a time, in the not too distant future, where white America will say, "Well if this the way the game is now played, I need to look out for my own too". And the progress made over the past 100 years will be for naught. You reap what you sow.
Speaktruth...you don't, that's evident. You're on drugs. Your rambling follows no logic.
I am an American Born Citizen of Latino descent, and while I do agree with you that this country needs a policy on ILLEGAL immgration, I don't agree with your paranoid delusions of some hidden "Latino Agenda"... Get your facts straight, we (Latinos) are still in the minority in this country and will be for a very long time... We as a people have struggled for a descent way of life. We have fought and died for the U.S and all her interests just like soldiers of other backgrounds (Black, White, Asian, etc...). The article's author is speaking for the minority within the minority so don't go torchin' crosses on anyone's yard just yet... Just sayin'....
Whats your Latino background? East coast may suggest Puerto Rican or Cuban or South American?
If you'e Mexican – you have a hidden agenda. The difference between Mexicans, whom seem to hoard Latino representation, have an 'take this land back' mentality, regardless of what any of them say. Whereas, Latin Americans from other countries DO NOT have that same agenda.
For example, a South American, Uruguayan for example, just picking one out... could care less about that the Southwestern US was once there's it wasn't. So they don't have that agenda, and you can go around asking every other Latin American that are NON-Mexican, and they don't have that same shared political, economic, "reconquistador" mentality or agenda.
Its not in their culture, minds or educational system like it is in Mexican hyper-nationalstic culture.
Lady, you're delusional. Probably think Jesus was a space traveler.
I think the sheriff in AZ is anti illegal immigrant, not anti immigrant. In fact, I don't know anyone who is anti immigrant. Ironic a journalist wouldn't tell the truth but the American people have come to expect it.
Thank you!!! It is very frustrating to be labeled anti-immigration, when I am an immigrant! (US citizen to another country). It is the people who think they can break the law and get away with it that are maddening. First the border, then what? Where I live, there is a constant of break the law, then IF caught-wait to see what actually happens, then cry about how unfair the policy is, then block roads, camp out on streets for months at a time. In the end, those of us who follow the rules end up paying for those who don't. I am FOR upholding the law, I am ANTI-illegal, NOT anti-immigrant.
Dude, if you think that breaking the law is your primary concern....use your energy and words to go after the white collar criminals that wall street still pays. Man up...stop picking on people that cant defend themselves against your hate.
Just because of your heritage, why would you automatically defend ILLEGALS? And why are ethinic "communities" always considered "rich and vibrant"?
The author is racist. I know more Hispanics than this lady would in 2 lifetimes.
Because people like you are usually the first to blame them for economic problems. More damage done by republican policies than Illegals. They really do the work many people consider back-breaking. They put up with it to feed their families. Are you going to pick avocados and get paid by the basket? I would dare to say that 99% of our population would not do what these hard working people will do to feed their kids.