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As California mandate looms, some LGBT curriculum already in place
California schools must meet a January deadline to include LGBT history in their curricula.
December 10th, 2011
06:00 AM ET

As California mandate looms, some LGBT curriculum already in place

By Debra Goldschmidt, CNN In America

(CNN) - In 10th grade English at Los Angeles’ Grover Cleveland High School, Danielle Taklender's students read the book "Luna" by Julie Anne Peters.  It's a story about a transgender teen.

Taklender has been teaching the book for seven years without any fanfare or push back. It’s getting noticed now as her school district takes the lead in developing a plan to comply with the first state law mandating lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender history and social science curricula. The California law, which takes effect in January, stops short of dictating how schools are to comply and leaves that up to the districts and schools themselves to figure out.

Taklender uses "Luna" to expose students to new vocabulary and different ways of thinking about pronouns. The students discuss gender identity versus sexual orientation, as well as gender roles in literature.  Taklender said she teaches this book the same way she teaches every other book.

She says the only negative feedback she has run into was a parent who once requested an alternate assignment after the class finished reading the book.

“No students ever say they changed their sexual orientation because of it,” Taklender said.

The new law, called the California Fair Education Act, also requires schools teach about the contributions of Native Americans, and people with disabilities. It also bans instructional materials that adversely reflect on a person due to their sexual orientation. The requirements are actually an expansion to the education code already in existence, which requires lesson plans to include various ethnic groups.

But it is not without controversy. Some opponents have religious objections, others say it’s part of sex education and belongs at home not in schools.  Others simply don’t want this taught to their children.

So far, opposition efforts to repeal the law, which passed last summer, have failed. There are currently at least five initiative measures awaiting review by the attorney general that could make their way on the ballot for next year's election, but it’s too late to stop the law that takes effect next month. If any of the ballot measures pass, they will undo the curriculum that is already in place.

Although individual teachers, like Taklender, have innovated LGBT studies, there aren’t any system-wide models for districts to duplicate, said Jill Marcellus, a spokeswoman for the Gay-Straight Alliance Network.

The Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network’s 2009 National School Climate Survey found that about 13% of students were taught in a positive way about lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people in any of their classes.

Scott Hirschfeld, director of curriculum at the Anti-Defamation League, said kids can go from kindergarten through 12th grade without ever learning about an LGBT person.

“They are really getting an incomplete history,” he said. “The reality is that in most schools this is not a standard part of curriculum.”

In California, many schools have taken a wait-and-see approach, but not the Los Angeles Unified School District. In September, they set a 60-day deadline to develop a new curriculum. This was added to a resolution for affirmation of the district's anti-bullying measures to protect lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

The change isn’t much different than in 2004, when the districts had to update health materials to address gender and sexuality, said Judy Chiasson, program coordinator for Los Angeles Unified School District’s Office of Human Relations, Diversity and Equity. At the time, the district had to create its own material, she said, because there wasn't anything similar out there.

The district has reviewed what is already working in some of its classrooms.  Educators have also looked at materials by groups including the Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Poverty Law Center, University of California Los Angeles and University of Southern California. Those materials are the basis of a draft implementation plan for Los Angeles schools that is currently under review by the district Superintendent, a spokeswoman said.

In the meantime, at Downtown Magnets High School in Los Angeles, Daniel Jocz's eleventh grade history students continue to discuss lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues. The subject has been part of Jocz's lesson plans since he started teaching seven years ago. Some days, that means a discussion about language: the negative use of the word 'gay' or using 'guys' to describe women.  His students will often compare and contrast the use of  these words with racial slurs.

The students have also looked at case studies that compare the 1955 murder of 14-year-old African-American Emmett Till in Mississippi with the 1998 murder of gay Wyoming college student, Matthew Shepard.

"There are parallels between the gay situation and the civil rights movement,” Jocz said. "If you don't include it as part of the narrative, you are ignoring it. You have to acknowledge it.”

Every generation has altered the way history is taught in schools, New York University history and education Professor Jonathan Zimmerman said. In the 1920s, it was the Irish, in the 1950s and 1960s, it was African-Americans and in the 1970s, it was Latinos.

“There was a time when history books only had white guys,” Zimmerman said. “Over time, successive groups fought to have their story become part of the main story.”

Adding lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender studies is no different, he said. But schools must be careful not to just celebrate the group - they need to address tough questions and do some hard thinking. For example, he said, sending soldiers to fight for freedom for others while denying gay freedom in the military.

“We need to think about why we’re including them and what the purpose of these stories is in the first place,” Zimmerman said.

Which is why schools are looking at Taklender’s English class and Jocz’s history class.  They are still trying to learn how this generation’s history will be taught.

Taklender and Jocz say they are just doing their jobs.

"Even though I knew it was revolutionary,” Taklender said, “I didn't think it was a big deal."


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soundoff (2,229 Responses)
  1. Tom - Canada

    What a shame, California! What about changing your state name to Sin State of the World and complete this whole cycle of total rebelion agains God!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  2. andrewesome

    They may have their own gay bible,gay church and gay God but they will learn that there is no gay hell.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christina

      Amen brother

      December 10, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Colin

      The concept of hell is one of my favorite Christian superst.itions. It allows believers to smuggly tell those who don't follow their Bronze age myths that they will "burn for all eternity." It really is simple nonsense that should never have made it out of the Dark Ages. Unfortunately, there are enough ill-educated people in the 21st century to perpetuate this infantile fairytale.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • bear0402

        Amen to that!! I can still remember seeing a catholic bishop claim he could hear the souls crying out from hell, begging for salvation. And that if we gave the Catholic Church enough money, they could make it happen. What a fraud the church is.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Vision***

        Its very real...at it seems it is you who rather convince yourself to it being otherwise. You have much to loose, your entire self, anyway hope thats not the case....peace!!!!

        December 10, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • bear0402

      And I suppose you are proclaiming that blacks have their own bible, church and god as well. You narrow minded bible thumpers are all the same.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
  3. todd

    "Lets teach our kids about science, but not the science that supports my political opponents platform. Golly I might have to make a sacrifice. Yeah, only Christian Science"

    December 10, 2011 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Fuyuko

    The question is why aren't the accomplishments of gays and lesbians already talked about in school?

    December 10, 2011 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • MichaelJC

      My thoughts exactly!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • randy

      Because they don't have any contributions worth knowing about

      December 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tommy Mack

        Yeah, that J.Edgar Hoover guy had no influence on American history.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      Probably because no one cares

      December 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Because you really don't care about the actual ACCOMPLISHMENTS. You actually only care that the accomplishment was made by a LGBT person. That is bigotry itself.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Whynot11

    I don't like this idea. The same way I do not like the idea of Black History month, or Hispanic heritage month.

    Black history is AMERICAN HISTORY, same with the gays that happened to do historically significant things. They went down in history for the things that they did, not for the people they screwed. If anything, they should simply identify which ones were gay in a small subtext, the briefest of mentions.

    If anything they should mention in a sub

    December 10, 2011 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      American is a single classification, people belong to many distinctions and ethncities. Why is it a problem that they mention them?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Whynot11

        Because it undermines their achievements. You don't become historically significant because of your color, you become significant because of what you DO. Imagine inventing something significant and all you are remembered for is for being gay....

        December 10, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        Why is it a problem that they are mentioned along with all the other people and not in a racist context.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • todd

        lots of people are proud of the contributions of their particular ethnicity and rightly so. Who would tell german americans and irish americans who brought customs and methods of making things from abroad that those weren't theirs to begin with, that they became natural american practices the day you signed your citizenship papers. a mexican lunch, salsa or meringue, english horsemanship whatever you want

        December 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  6. finalturismo

    research

    December 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
  7. James

    It's a high school class that also teaches about other ethnic groups as well. But none of you will demand for black history, Asian American history or native American history to stop being taught Bigots!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • arfarf

      No, James, being gay is NOT an ethnicity.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  8. randy

    First the term is "American." Then it's either African-American, Asian-American, etc. Now it's gay-American, lesbian-American, transgendered-American, etc? Talk about segregation in the U.S.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Steve in Las Vegas,NV

    Just who is paying for the new text books?? The taxpayers? No wonder CA is going broke! Of course, the private schools are going to prosper with all the new studentswho have left the public schools, The public schools may very well have fewer students because of this, or will be home schooled, or who's parents move out of state.

    This could only happen in the Peoples Republik of Kalipforniastan...No where else

    December 10, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oops!

      Yeah, and you'll be pleased to know that a lot of those books wind up in the garbage....never once opened. I work for a public school district in California. The stuff that tax payer money gets used for to supposedly educate our children would sicken most Californians and Americans. Now this?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
  10. todd

    oh noes the illuminati/masons/bilderbergers/rothschilds/greys/nonexistant menace to give dumb people with control issues comfort

    December 10, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • GAW

      You meant the video? I never bothered to click on it. My time and brain are too valuable.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Joe

    Can we give California back to Mexico? Please?

    December 10, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oops!

      Not all of us Californians agree with this ridiculous crap. And believe me, I'd move out of this state if I could.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • badidea

      fine, but we'll be taking our GDP contribution with us. See how you like dropping 20 spots without us.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Andy

    Wow, I can't believe this is really a mandate. Sorry Californians! Can't we recognize people simply because of their actual accomplishments and not because of some government-imposed ruling that says a certain number of people must be recognized because they are part of a particular orientation. Where's the mandate for group "X", "Y", or "Z". The LGBT getting this special treatment is in and of itself discrimination.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      there are no quotas, acknowledgment != special treatment (has the potential of literally thousands of counterexamples), read the article

      December 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      I know, you could run the whole lesson into the ground coming up with quotas all the different types of people and mandating that every one of them mentioned no matter how mediocre their accomplishments.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Petey

    I don't really have a problem with this politically, but California's school system is already very publicly failing to teach its students to read, write proper English and perform simple mathematics. So considering that 90% of California's public school students either will never actually learn this LGBT stuff or will learn it and forget it almost immediately, perhaps the state would be better served by teaching fewer things and teaching them adequately.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Teachers are lazy and most are not really that good. If you gave teachers a brand new book at the beginning of the school year most teachers could not come up with a lesson plan about it and explain the themes and messages properly. I am not saying they should plan the curriculum this way, just pointing out that a big percentage couldn't. They regurgitate information year after year about the same crap. Kids should be reading books about people like Steve Jobs or about Lance Armstrong or Theroen Fluery. Books that teach about modern society and are about success and triumph or MODERN evils...not Shakespeare.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Ian

    No issue with teaching it, BUT I do have a problem with the TIME allocation. In all honesty, LGBT represents a minority of people. That is, straight people FAR out number LGBT people. If 1 of 3 books taught in the year are about LGBT that is a BIAS toward LGBT teaching. Even if you support teaching kids about LGBT, justification of a bias toward it shows that LGBT supporters are not objective either. If the school system really wanted to be done properly, they would teaching read and writing skills and not even select books. The CHILD should select the book they want to read and write about. Teachers are lazy (maybe not taz) and want to teach the same thing every year which is why it is so dumbed down. There is no new thought in the public school system. A school selecting a specific book is ridiculous. Teaching kids Shakespeare in school is ridiculous. I love watching people ridicule Ron Paul for sticking to "old" thoughts, yet we support teaching Shakespeare in schools. This is why my children will be home-schooled and will actually learn ABOUT the REAL WORLD. They will be exposed to the good and BAD of LGBT lifestyle. The school system would NEVER teach about the negatives because they would be vilified as being a bigot. Nope, only the positive message will be taught. Quite honestly it is the parents responsibility to determine what a child should learn not society. Social Engineering is an erosion of personal liberty. People should have the right to hate or dislike anyone they want, they just should not have the right to infringe on the rights of the people they hate. Simply hating someone is not the issue, your actions are.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      btw cut out all this crap about Christians. It really shows your own bigotry when you are trying to argue someone else is.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • res123

      Ian, while i respect your opinion, i find some flaws in part of your argument. You say there are far more straight people than gay people in america, so why teach about gay people? Well, there are far more Americans in America than there are Europeans. Why teach European history. There are far more Christians in America than Jews. Why then, do we bother to teach about the holocaust and it's implications. The reasons it's important to teach all of this is because there are things to gain from history. And I'm glad you will teach your children about gays and lesbians. But the thing is, they aren't so different from straight people. There are positives and negative aspects of being in any relationship. The only negative thing about being lgbt is the stigma that people often attach to it.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • avdin

        Most "americans" are descendants of Europeans. The holocaust is a terrible mistake no one ever wants repeated. If it is not taught such things as generational forgetting being to have a greater and faster impact on society.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ian

        I actually said that teaching about LGBT should be as much a part of the curriculum as their demographic percentage. Big difference. I did not say not to teach about gay people. Secondly, ALL Americans are European and their descendants. That you did not know this is proof about the dumbed-down education system in America. That is why they teach about Europeans. French, English, Spanish...the list goes on. Read some history. Europeans came here and made a new country called The United States of America. I cannot believe I had to explain this. The holocaust, to me, is more about government control and brainwashing of a population. It is also about how a government can DESTROY their own currency for war. Perhaps people should re-visit the lessons with some fresh thinking because it is coming full circle. The power elite has realized from the Nazi's that you cannot sieze control through military. It did not work in Germany. The new plan is to use money. The population is being controlled by the bankers. Why is it that wars are faught only with countries that have lucrative spoils? Clearly if it was about "spreading freedom and democracy" China would have every US soldier there "spreading democracy". It is not about freedom and democracy. It is about money. War is the most profitable exercise possible to bankers. What is the US debt now? How much interest?

        December 10, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  15. JJ

    We may not lead the world in math or science, but at least our kids will know who preferred it in the coolo.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      Yeah, it figures. It's been at least two or three days since we've had more of this gay CRAP force-fed to us. Bunch of nonsense!!!!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • fonke

      true that...

      December 10, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
  16. spiritwarrior6

    I disagree that our country needs to push math and science more. I had plenty of both back in the day and did well with them. However, that does not mean I wanted to grow up and use either of them at those high levels. Do we actually want to TEACH or kids or brainwashing them into the math and science fields that you and I don't want to bother with? People don't even listen to science. We don't need cures for half the crap out there. We already solved the problems by identifying poor diet, smoking and ect as the problem. Do people listen? Nope. Do we need more drugs to save lives? Nope. We need to stop taking such poor care of ourselves. Do we need math and science classes to stand up to corporations that build their unhealthy products and market them to people to the point of addiction and lack of clarity to avoid them? Nope. I wish schools taught MY kids how to think better about the real world problems and back the teachings we do at home. We don't need 10 tvs in the house and a cell phone in every family member's pocket. We are going to want all of these doctors to come about in a few years to save all of the deaf adults who lived their worlds behind screens with headphones in who can't operate anything because their thumbs are trashed from years of texting and their interpersonal skills and social charisma stink terribly because they grew up not learning how to talk to people in person or enjoy a friend's company face-to-face. And as for science....we had it for sooo many years and destroyed so much of the earth with it. If good science and engineering was ever desired by me, it'd be for a TV that lasts more than 10 years, a computer that would not have such a short lifespan and a car that gets by on 200 miles per gallon (if sticking with current technology). Even better yet, get rid of the science and tech. Shut off the TV, put away the computer and cell phone and walk with your family and friends. Enjoy their company. Eat some good REAL food together. Build some memories. Stop worrying about competing with Asia and Europe. In then end, we are all on the same old age deathbed and no body cares who was ahead.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Herne

      i like you.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • GAW

      Why cant we all just get along!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • tc

      It is precisely math, science, and engineering which gave you this wonderful opportunity to spill your stupidity all over the internet. Go practice some alternative medicine, or whatever it is you science naysayers do...

      December 10, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • spiritwarrior6

        I am not saying it is not needed. I am saying it's not necessary for every single kid to be measured as excelling at either. Nor is it necessary that we compete against the rest of the world for things like this. Math and science should and usually end up being to the benefit of most of man-kind. I think it is ridiculous for arts and history and other topics to be attacked and shoved to the wayside to force ALL kids to work to be GREAT at math and science. It's simply not for everyone.

        December 10, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • avdin

      Ok, let's forget about curing cancer and HIV and preventing an ebola pandemic and focus on that 200 mpg car for you, eh?
      I thought you wanted to walk everywhere from the way you were talking, so why do we need to focus on the car and not the diseases?
      I do agree that there are certain areas of scientific research that are superfluous (eg the guys who monitored sludge dripping for decades). But in general they are very important, and the fact that you do not realize this only goes to show that the American education system DOESN'T teach it enough. You are the perfect counter argument to your own statement.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • James

      I don't think you did as well in math and science as you suggest.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • spiritwarrior6

        Well, for one, you don't know me so you really don't know. No worries, there. A problem I think comes up in both subjects is that I don't feel the public school system I trained in gave enough motivating examples of people who used either subject. I actually graduated HS back in the day with 5 math classes under my belt when only 3 were required. In our school, BIO in 9th grade was a boring joke so I do agree with the teaching quality there. But so what...I learned science...nobody explained to us at 15-16 what the heck to do with it other than medical stuff and I was not into that at all. I'm an environmental studies major now with a background in drafting technologies and DID work in a technical, engineering field for quite awhile. (not having to use hardly any of the actual math I learned although the thinking skills were quite useful but that part is never really explained or realized in high school) Our country has too much interest in outer image and money to be concerned about school studies for kids, which is a shame. It's all so disposable now. How do we expect kids to get motivated in subjects we adults don't take serious or show an interest in? Role models are seriously needed. We actually have a child interested enough in becoming a math major...and a daughter at that. So not all kids are terrible at these subjects and lack the interest.

        December 10, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ray in Vegas

      Spiritwarrior .. I agree with a lot of what you are saying. However .. there are other reasons for teaching things than to make careers out of those subjects. Our human brain evolved in large part by our use of mathematics and scientific reasoning. One of the things I fear with all this high tech, however, is we are actually using our brain less and less and relying on the tech to do our calculating, our remembering, our thinking, our planning, our interacting with other people, etc. There are modules in our mind that developed to serve those functions. The old adage "use it or lose it" is very true and certainly applies to our brain. People think of cyborgs in terms of physically and biologically implanted tech .. but if you think about it .. what's the actual difference if it's physically connected or not? I say we are already cyborgs and are becoming increasingly so at an exponential speed. But while some may think that the tech is making us smarter .. we are lost without our tech and so are in fact becoming dumber and more reliant on technology to solve our problems and do our thinking for us. So, yes brother, we should put down the tech and be human beings and interact with one another on an organic level. However, we should also teach math and science to get students to think analytically and critically so that they can appreciate their world better, make better decisions, have better understanding, and yes .. to keep alive and further develop those modules that evolved in our brain by billions of years of evolution (if you start with the stars .. which we should .. as the late, great Carl Sagan used to say "we are star stuff"). Our brains are still the most powerful supercomputer "models" on this planet that we know of. Let's not get dumber and dumber while computers get smarter and smarter.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • spiritwarrior6

        I agree but I bet 75% of the ppl screaming about this DIDN'T do well in math or science themselves and even if they did they are NOT doing anything spectacular with it. In fact, I bet 100% of us on here have done nothing spectacular with our math or science educations. So aren't we ALL the hypocrites? Ask around...what greatness did anyone replying to this do that a lot of ppl couldn't have just done on their own.

        My point to others, we assume sending 100% of kids to math and science at high levels is going to mean 100% of those kids want to DO something with it. Forcing kids to take those classes does not mean they are going to grow up and do anything with any of it. That is the overall point.

        December 10, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Corey

    I bet none of the people posting all of these hateful comments has a gay son or lesbian daughter. If you saw the struggles a gay person goes through every single day, you would realize that education is the only thing that can change it. For those of you who choose not to give your religion a bad name by realizing the world isn't black and white..Well, thank God for you!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Latinnno

      That is not the role of schools. Demand tolerance but teach educational material that matters in the real world.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • livingwater

      The struggle is because they don't know God, and they don't know that they are going to hell. Pastors should be teaching them. Ohh! Pastors are too busy teaching "social gospel" and politics and have no time to care for the spiritual life of their congregations.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Herne

    Any version of a Non Wasp history is good. Most Americans are completely clueless on history, due to the overabundance of organized religion being combined with "actual historical events".(Actual history is considerably more exciting than the crap they teach in public and private schools...btw)
    It's hypocrisy, combined with the strong need of our political leaders desire, for money and power, that have fueled a country filled with mindless couch potatoes.
    Americans are actually considering a OBVIOUS slimeball like Newt Gingrich for POTUS.....if that doesn't tell you how dumb we've become....your lost.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      What are you talking about? How has organized religion made history wrong? Just what america needs, more religious hater that arbitrarily blame religion even in situations that don't call for it. I fail to see how history is distorted by religion.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Rankdaddy984

    Can I get Great Rednecks in America tought in schools? I think I'm being discriminated against because folks don't like the fact that I have a 60's model truck in my front yard....somewhere...in all that Johnson grass.
    We have made some wonderful accomplishments with duct tape that are being overlooked!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Herne

      we've got the red neck history already....just study....U.S. Presidents.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • avdin

      Yeah! I agree, I know a LOT more red necks than gays. Red-neck Pride all the way!

      December 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tex Mex

      Being from Texas, every gay I knew before I was 18 was a redneck. The first non-redneck LGBT person I met was in the army and she was a John Bircher from Kansas. (Me being a straight Yellow Dog Democrat did not seem to bother her on date night/weekend.) Come to think about it, all those LGBT folks that I know who "push an agenda" are Stonewall Republicans. Makes me wonder about some of the posters here; the closet may be full.

      December 10, 2011 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Steve

    Yeah, let's create more pigeon-holes to put people into. Way to go, California!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Evan

    I support GLBT studies, and I am very sypathetic to all of those who suffer from ignorant people. BUT schools should spend more time on MATH and SCIENCE. We will be takin over by China or another country if we don't change our schools curriculum now!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Herne

      those who do not learn their history are condemned to repeat it.....U.S. 1930's.....U.S. 2011...need i say more.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Bert Bigdongle

    Some astute comments. The once great US of A is now leading the world in .... political correctness. And the pushing of liberal political views on children. Over in Asia they are teaching kids .... math. And not even just gay and lesbian math, normal math also!!!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • stephan

      Ummmm... are they teaching "gay" math in California now? Is that what makes you scared now? So you'll spread lies to mask your ignorance?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Dave

    California does not understand economics. This is obvious due to their budget situation... Anyway, another topic in economics is OPPORTUNITY COST. Time in school is SCARCE. For every additional hour those kids spend learning about gays, they GIVE UP an hour of learning about math, science, and technology.

    Cali Kid: "I can't do math, but let me tell you about Ellen and Tim Gunn".

    December 10, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • KrayC

      Perfect. Very funny

      December 10, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • stephan

      So lets only tach Math and Science! They will be so well rounded yes? Make prefect little workers for the 1%.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Allyson

      I've noticed that the 20-something adults coming into our work place are incredibly emotional, self-destructive, and throw temper-tantrums at the drop of a hat. Their critical thinking skills are appalling. They think little of factually based conversations and get bored easily when expected to come up with the fundamentals and premises of arguments. Our foreign coworkers discuss subjects with excellent English skills, converse like adults without emotional tirades, and complete their work on time without being babysitted.

      The issue with this gay instructional material is that it is irrelevant to becoming a well-educated and balanced adult in this world. There is no point in it. There are reasons why the Asians and Europeans do not teach it. It is subject matter that is not important to businesses and having a career. What these kids are becoming are emotional, ill-mannered ADHD trolls with little self-control and a lack of real human relationship capabilities. If you ask a middle/school kid to write a composition or complete mathematical calculations, they can't do it. They're idiots. Back where I came from I have a friend whose daughter was taught math using a computer. She is 19 years old and cannot calculate math using a pencil and paper.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • stephan

        When is the last time you used a pencil and paper to do math. But by all means, lets continue to use stone age tools!

        December 10, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve-o

        @stephan; Congrats, you just epitomized her entire post with what you said. Amazing. Enjoy your job at 7-11 because as you're making minimum, the Asians and Europeans will be coming over here making $100k+. They learned the fundamentals using these so-called "use stone age tools".

        By the way, can you google the word "epitomized?" Do you even know what this word means? I doubt it.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  24. High IQ'er

    Carrotcakeman, true followers of the Bible, and God himself, are never going to ease your guilty conscience by telling you that your life-style is acceptable.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Nope, all the Christians hypocrites trashing gays will ignor that there are FAR FAR MORE Christians guilty of hetero adultery by remarrying than there are total number of gays.

      It's all HYPOCRISY. Pick and choose the sins you like.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • High IQ'er

        I said TRUE FOLLOWERS. Not the many hypocrites who masquerade. It has nothing to do with trashing gays. As Christ and all God's prophets of old BOLDLY PREACHED the warning, we do too. Most people do not like it, gay or not, because the message exposes them for who they are. Come Armageddon, you are going to be wishing you were not such a True-Christian HATER AND TRASHER.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        High IQ'er,

        If you ACTUALLY cared about sin, you be off trashing all the CHRISTIAN ADULTERERS since there are FAR FAR MORE of them.

        You PICKED verses to trash gays. You IGNORED the Golden Rule. It's all hypocrisy.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • GollyGees

        Us Christians are not saying we don't do anything wrong, we are saying don't call was is wrong right.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        GollyGees,
        "Us Christians are not saying we don't do anything wrong, we are saying don't call was is wrong right."

        The issue is HYPOCRISY. Care to talk about the Golden Rule?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • ezg437

        Then follow ALL of Levitcus and Exodus. All of it and not just pick and choose to suit your comfort level. Sell me your daughter Observer.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        ezg437

        "Then follow ALL of Levitcus and Exodus."

        Exactly my point. Everyone just picks and chooses what they want.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      "HIGH IQ'ER" hahahahha

      December 10, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        Todd,

        It's always entertaining when someone HAS to tell us how smart they are.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • edumacator

      "The California law, which takes effect in January, stops short of dictating how schools are to comply and leaves that up to the districts and schools themselves to figure out."

      December 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Mary

    Put the lid on California. Instead of teaching kids Science and Math or English for that matter, they'll be teaching this!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Concerned Citizen

    I understand the push for GLBT rights. I support it. But to closely compare or even parallel it to the Civil Rights struggle is just a lackadaisical and failed attempt to gain legitimacy. Do not water down history for the benefit of your argument. Not persuasive at all.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • larrydavid

      Someone will be around shortly to marginalize you and your argument.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Jason

    So why can't the accomplishments people make towards society just be credited towards that person and not the background they come from...straight, gay, white, black, etc.....??

    December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Other Side of the Coin

      Hear, hear!!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • JulioF

      I never read a thing about the personal habits of Thomas Edison, Einstein, and others. Why is it suddenly appropriate to pseudo-rationalize LGBT behaviors? Who gives a rat's patoot about what anyone does in their own home? As long as they keep it there, of course. Don't be seeking approval from the public for your deviant behavior.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Big Bubba

      Jason,

      Apparently you think more clearly on this issue than the whole state of Sodom and Cali-Gamorrah.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • TheyNeed ToKnow

      Well Jason, the answer is simple enough. Since other contributors are straight, no mention is ever made or needed about their orientation since they are in the majority. But when a person with minority status makes a contribution to society, it should not be assumed that they are automatically straight and that distinction should be made. Don't ever be remiss on that. If GLBT folks were always being credited in other Positive ways there may not be a need for this but you know they are not. That, coupled by the fact that many people in their bigoted way of thinking think that GLBT people cannot contribute to society or that they are bad people, need to be TAUGHT that they, in effect, DO contribute and plenty and sure pay their tax dollars as well! This is a great curriculum whose time was long overdue and should be fully implemented to show that GLBT people Do contribute significantly to society and they need to Know and Realize that already! End of story.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Dave

    College freshman in 2030 that grew up in California:

    "Man, college is hard. I don't understand this math at all... if only my primary school teachers had spent more time teaching math and less time teaching us about notable gays."

    December 10, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • X

      I am hardly surprised by this, the gay agenda has been full steam ahead for some time. Objective? Infiltrate that way of life into every crevice of society.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Eddie

    I think somebody is having somebody else on. All schools teach the achievements of all people. But now Californians must show children into the bedrooms of these people. As if California wasn't messed up enough already. Better there than where I live.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Big Bubba

      Eddie,

      Freakin' rights, dude. I will neve allow my kids to be exposed to this nonsense. Better Cali than here.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  30. David

    What's sad is that California does not see the fire coming. That government has no idea of God's wrath and what is about to happen if they continue to support this type of government reform. Why do you think wild fires and destruction have been hitting the state in recent decades. These events are only a warning so there is time to change. Does anyone remember Sodom and Gomorrah?

    December 10, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • livingwater

      That's right! It will be for them as Sodom and Gomorrah! Praise God!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • badidea

        ...so the deaths of millions of your countrymen would cause you great joy. I'm sure the Lord is making a note of that.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lee

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha. You are hilarious.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • DJ

      Did you ever see Mississippi Burning? Was that the wrath of God burning the churches because black people went to worship him? Or maybe it was a bunch of gays burning the chruches.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • bear0402

        Or maybe it was a bunch of racist ill-educated southern hillbillies who just don't like blacks.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • eddie hurley

      you are right they don't want change they want to be justified. people can do what they want the problem is they want to teach your kids their life style they don;t want you to teach your kids what you think is right and wrong that should be every mom and dad's right that is their job

      December 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
  31. zoundsman

    I look at it as a win-win. Given a kid is given a murder charge for killing a gay kid recently, he could have benefited
    from a lesson in tolerance. Kids won't be using the excuse they were not educated when they're arrested for harassing
    an LBGT type. Pretty simple: US soldiers who are gay, with life on the line to defend the kid's freedom, why discriminate?
    Hate is hate- without logic or seeing the consequences.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • X

      We are doomed as a society, our values and moral direction has been lost. We are now a cesspool.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • JulioF

        I'm with X on this one. America has lost it's way.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Big Bubba

        X,

        Yup. It's now Sodom and Cali-Gamorrah.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Darthlawsuit

      Yes lets stop taching kids algebra and instead teach them LGBT history. It will really help them in the future. Maby they can do.... or become a ....... yeah they have no future -_-;

      Its a waste of time, money, and further proof that california is a 3rd world state.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • J

        It doesn't matter, by the time they grow up all the good jobs will be outsourced. We will be the most enlightened serf-class the world has ever seen. LOL

        December 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • badidea

        Yeah, 3rd world- what with Silicon Valley and all. We lead the country in both tech and agriculture, produce more of both than any other state. I'm proud to live here, even if this law strikes me as kind of silly.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Sotzume

    You make me want to vomit...bigot.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  33. James

    Your statements are all mistaken. You don't won't to act like a man because of dike? And Social awkwardness sound like me on my first day of a new school.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Selmers

      Which, I'm guessing, was also your last day of school?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Dave

    How about we teach kids about important achievements of all people? Why add more (most likely much less significant) achievements JUST BECAUSE a person was gay?

    December 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Wowsers

    Good point. BTW the saying is, "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while" LOL.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Melissa

    In my Modern American History class we're taught about the Stonewall Riots which falls under the Civil Rights movement and I'm sure as Prop 8 continues it'll be taught also. I am not anti-gay but you've got to be kidding me!? With the Occupy Wall St. protest, unemployment rates are on the rise, it's not much of a mystery why a lot of jobs are being outsourced AND certain jobs are given to people here on Visa from other countries such as China and India. Their education is far more advanced than ours, what we're taught in high school is already taught in middle schools overseas.

    As an elective, this wouldn't be a bad class..they teach Asian American History, African American History, etc.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Christian

    This is so wrong! How can we make ourselves seem superior and more Christ like if we don't have someone to demonize and put down?

    December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Petey

      Hm. Fortunately you don't appear to have that problem...

      December 10, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • GollyGees

      I smell a phoney

      December 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Andi

    You're a fool & a bigot. The problem isn't with lesbian, gay, bi or transgender people. The problem is you. And the fact that you don't think YOU'RE the problem is why you're a fool. People wouldn't really care if you hate them as long as you don't act on it. The trouble is, most haters do eventually.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  39. MJSouth

    It is not the story that gay persons have contributed much that is the problem (they have), it is the "Government Mandate" that is scary. Guess they will mandate we all hold hands and pretend to get along with everybody!!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • X

      This is a sad day in our society

      December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • David

        Well the generation that is imposing these mandates are of the 60s hippie lifestyles. This corrupt mindset began with the boomer/hippies and now that they're in government jobs and the public school sector, they now corrupting the kids and society too.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • James

      It's a California law Not a Government mandate.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • mark

      Oh right, the schools will do this because it's the right thing??? I don't think so, the government has to make them do it. Otherwise, Oprah Winfrey would be riding on the back of a bus somewhere.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Observer

    You missed the answer: (F) None of the above

    December 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Selmers

      Did I?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Dave

    Every day the kids learn a new lesson about some minor LBGT achievement is a day they could have spent learning math and science. This is why we are quickly falling behind China.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • T3chsupport

      You obviously didn't go to school. If you did, you might remember that they teach more than reading and math in school. They also teach economics, various histories, various languages, and a bunch of other useful tools.

      You, you are a tool, but you are not a useful one.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lynn

      We're falling behind China because educational budgets are the first to get the ax every time we have a budget crisis, not because schools in CA will be required to include teaching the achievements of gay, lesbian and trans gender people, just as they teach the achievements of all others. No one says that teaching this will take away time from their regular subjects, it just means that the teachers are now required to make it a part of their reading assignments. No one screams that it takes away from their regular curriculum every time they choose a book about a white person, or a Latino, etc. The requirement hasn't even been enforced yet dummy and we've been behind China for years.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Wowsers

    Of aII the problems in our schools and serious issues about how to better prepare kids for the future, they're going to have a mandate for this? The school systems, especially California, are falling apart and this is a waste of time when there are so many more important education topics that schools need to be better prepared to teach (i.e. math, science, etc). This is a waste of resources that could be better used and this is the perfect example of why California is broke and a backwards state.

    Hope you can wrap your mind around that crazy thought

    December 10, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Brad

    Karma does not exist, but retribution does, let's see what happens

    December 10, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Total NON Sense

    Remove any trace of religion from the goverment and education system. Ban any display of religion outside church Here you go problem PERMANANTLY SOLVED. religion is the root cuse of the problem..... since been religious is a mental illness. we need more asylum, not more prison.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      Your screen name is an apt preface to your statements.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sotzume

      Yes Yes Yes....the first sane thing I've read regarding this story.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • GAW

      No Remove human beings and the problem will be solved! Your dream for a utopian society has blinded you btw Many religious groups do support those in the LGBT community. Do your homework before posting!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • james

      Really? America was founded and built by religious people.

      Now that we are becoming 'anti religious' we are in decline.

      Reality doesn't match your opinion.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Realist

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5X4N2exOsU&w=640&h=390]

    December 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wowsers

      Ummmm, what?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Realist

        Who are the ones that we kept in charge? Killers, Thieves and lawyers...

        December 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ray in Vegas

      This is one of my favorite vids! I love Tom Waits and never realized how much he could sound like the Cookie Monster until I saw this! Hilarious. God's away on business indeed!

      December 10, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
  46. CHRIS

    January1 2012 yet another sad day for the people of California.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sotzume

      You can another sad day that people like you exist....

      December 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • JulioF

      "There are parallels between the gay situation and the civil rights movement,” Jocz said.
      There are parallels, but they have nothing to do with gays or LGBT having their civil rights violated.
      There is a reason that California will one day fall into the Pacific...

      December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Mark

    Science anyone? Math?

    We concentrate on political correctness and suck at everything else. No wonder corporations are moving engineer jobs to Europe.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • khif

      Corporations are taking over the world because we don't want to be raciest/prejudice/bigoted? Maybe it's cause morons vote for even bigger morons? Because we put pipelines to payroll tax cuts on the same bills?... ...

      December 10, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • ken

      Right! Testify, Brother.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Just Another Guy

      They're mixing it into the english and social science curricula. They're not taking them out of a math or science class and devoting a class to LBGT. It will be a short topic but will be covered in history/english, much like civil rights. It does not take ANY time away from math or science.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Brian

    This is much ado about nothing. I teach English in West Virginia (hardly the bastion of diverse cultures!), and we've had a multicultural plan in for years. I teach various books and short stories that hit different cultures. It's not a big deal. Honestly, you'd almost have to try NOT to abide by this "law". Give it a rest!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
  49. James

    I'm both Black And Gay. Therefore I know hurt discrimination twice as much as any of you.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Selmers

      But your chances to get into a college with scholarships is 5x better than that of a straight, white, man.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andi

      It may be true that you know hurt discrimination more than a lot of people reading this, but saying you know it "more than any of you" is just a presumptious statement you're using to bait someone into challenging you. There's plenty of bullsh!t here w/out you stirring it up for the sake of stirring it up. People hate you for being black, & people hate you for being gay. Why on earth would you want anything to do with them?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andi

      *presumptuous

      December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • ken

      Boo-Hoo, no one cares. Get over it and live your life. Do you think anyone cares about my problems. I'm white, straight and have a 155 IQ but I can't get into into a decent college because they prefer black, gay, female or liberal. But I still get to pay taxes to support the F'ing school. Take your problems and shove 'em.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • Selmers

        Amen brother. And wow, you beat be at 142

        December 10, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • Selmers

        *me

        December 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ken

        LMAO – you tell someone else to stop crying and you start crying about how things are everyone's fault but your own.. lol must not be that smart if you cant get into a good college

        December 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • stephan

        Where did you get yer number fool, some online test? With an IQ of 150 you don't need college, the world is your oyster... so no you IQ is nowhere close to 150.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • manhandler

        155? Really! I think you ought to have that IQ rechecked and start blaming yourself for not being accepted in a school

        December 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
  50. seriously

    "Okay students, these are the contributions of LGBT people... And these are the contributions of normal people... So remember there is a difference between a normal person and an LGBT person."

    December 10, 2011 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Me

      I don't see a reason to to mention lgbt people at all; They only need to prevent and teach about bullying of ANYONE, in any shape or form. There is no need to teach about lgbt accomplishments,

      December 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Really

      I agree.
      I hope everyone gets your point.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Colin

    The mere fact that evangelical Christians oppose this is enough for me to support it. Anybody who wants to base 21st Century education policy on the supposed wishes of a Bronze Age Middle Eastern sky-fairy is bound to be wrong!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      So let me get this straight: You can't reason through an issue yourself, so instead you just play contrary to the group you hate? Get a spine and come up with your own views.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Eiljah34

    America you brought all of this on yourself. This is what happens when you have a country that has lost it foudation. We are a country that allows anything that goes. This is why you have these insane people raping and killing kids. The political system imploding in Washington D.C and across the nation. The average citizen sees a blur when it come to right and wrong. This is just the beginning of things to come. Remember you said you did not want anyone telling you how to live. Your wish was granted. Stop complaining about every thing and take the recompence of your actions. Oh by the way, do not call on the Lord , remember you kicked Him to the curb. Remember that song , Do Not Cry Now.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • really??

      Ley me get this straight...raping and killing kids has never occured before now? You're dillusional. And P.S., God called, and he wants you to stop using his name, you're making him look bad. He's trying to distance himself from all you crazies right now.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • shachar

      Perhaps you should go back to school. You can't spell worth s***.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sotzume

      The only one who ought to kicked to the curb are imbeciles like you....

      December 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Candor

    Check out this site on Facebook: "Exposing the Hompolitical Agenda" for an objective analysis on the myths and rhetoric behind the gay movement. Don't let the name fool you, it is friendly to diversity viewpoints as long as the discussions are relevant to the forum.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  54. AmericanSam

    I'm white. I'm straight. I was born in Texas and have lived in Tennessee almost all my life. And I've got nothing but support for people who define themselves as gay or lesbian. It's time to stop waiting for schools to do the right thing and instead make for darn sure they do.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Selmers

      News flash: You're not straight.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • larrydavid

      "the right thing" as YOU define it, right?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • stephan

        Yep, the right thing as I define it. Got a problem with it.... to bad, your kind is almost extinct now, nothing you can really do about it.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Cheeseburger

    A lot of if "I don't believe what you believe, then I'm stupid and wrong" here. Symptom of psychological illness of the weak yet vocal liberal mind.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      Actually I see it the other way. These "Liberals" seem to have gotten their way... I believe its the bible-bangers that are upset

      December 10, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sotzume

      Maybe its because you are stupid and wrong...ever think of that, Cheeseburger?????

      December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
  56. David

    Taklender uses "Luna" to expose students to new vocabulary and different ways of thinking about pronouns.
    ________________

    Oh please, does anyone believe this tripe? There are other books to teach kids about new vocabulary and different ways of thinking about pronouns. How much do you want to bet she is a f*a*g-hag. What is that? A woman with no self-confidence, a ton of failed relationships, cannot get a good man, so she has only gay men as her friends. These types have no character. I guarantee that she is teaching this stuff because she wants to manipulate and indoctrine these kids into her gay friends way of life. That is premise of the public school system.

    Has anyone noticed that when a boy and girl hold hands or kiss the public schools punish the kids? Yet when the gay lifestyle if perpetuated, the public schools do nothing? The public purposely make kids feel guilty about normal life ideas and relationships between straight couples.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      No one has "noticed" any of that anti-gay nonsense you're trying to promote here.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • David

        @CarrotCakeMan; "no one". Hardly. All you have to do is to pay attention to news story. A school boy comments on his female teacher being cute and gets kicked out of school. A boy and girl kiss each other or hold hands and they get kicked out of school. The stories come out nearly ever week. However, you never hear about boys holding boys hands or girls kissing girls and being kicked out. More and more middle-aged women are having s*E*x with 13 year old boys. This is the deviant behavior that the public school system perpetuates and accepts.

        Every time a teacher admonishes a child for acting normal, that child will in turn begin to feel more isolated and begin to think that alternate life styles are ok. This is how you brainwash children. Some will become gay, some will become anti-social. These snowflakes are going to turn into huge free-falling mountains and it's going to be a huge price to pay.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • chrissy

      TOUCHETTE

      December 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • X

      We are doomed as a society, this is the beginning of the end

      December 10, 2011 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Steve

    How's this for a novel concept: How about teaching our kids math? Or science? Because they're sure not learning it right now.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      Teaching them the whole truth about LGBT Americans won't prevent them from learning math. Spare us this routine anti-gay nonsense.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nah

        *yawn*

        Neither would teaching them the bible, or creationism, or how guns are good, or why the Confederate flag really "isn't" racist.

        But I get the feeling you would support no law aimed at teaching those subjects. Though they're justified in the same way that this law is.

        Imagine that.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Christian

        Where truth is not taught, tyranny will prevail. We have had enough of your Gay nonsense.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      I agree! Your logic is sound... Why are we teaching them English in the first place?!!?!?!?!?!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Caihlyn

      Agreed. Public schools are promoting social awareness programs, while private schools are promoting English, Math and Science. The public is placated, but will remain ignorant and therefore never rise to leadership roles. The private school students will be well educated and ready to assume leadership roles in society. This is but one more way the politicians are separating the have from the have-nots. Those who send their children to private schools will rule, those who send their children to public schools will follow...as simple as that.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • really??

        You have no idea what you're talking about. I went to public school, a public university and a few years ago I graduated from the University of Pittsburgh with a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. I'm making 6 figures and I'm more than happy to tell you to shove your "those who can afford to go to private school are going to rule the world" theory where the sun doesn't shine.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • zoundsman

      This where creative teaching comes in: If Oscar Wilde can write 30 pages a day, how many days will it take for him
      to write a novel consisting of 3000 pages?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Just Another Guy

      They are learning it, most just don't like it.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Ken

    Keep leading the way Cal! Put an end to this discrimination about how people choose to live their lives. I expect that all the old racists and bigots to come up in arms over this.... love it.. What you are so desperately clinching to hold on to in the darkness will be destroyed by the greater power of light, education, understanding, and compassion. To those that hate those you have never met, turn that hate to love and spread that. Love breeds love, hate breeds hate. Ask yourself why do their lives or knowledge of it hurt you and make you hate so bad? I think the answer is more within you then them...

    December 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andy

      Ken, it's not about hating people, or even discriminating against LGBT. Any person with common sense would be happy that their children are learning about people (that is, anyone whether they are straight, gay, etc.) who have accomplished something worth recognizing. However, it makes no sense for a State to coddle a certain group with a mandate like this.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ken

        I have to disagree, while i acknowledge there are very well intentioned people in the US that just don't believe the same as other people do. As we have seen from history, if you are waiting on the people to make the right choices you will be waiting a long time. As with many things before, you sometime have to use law to enforce things that not everyone will personally agree with. I personally think its a good step

        December 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Ken, it's not about discrimination. It's about spending valuable class time on critical subjects like math, science. I think while some people want to make this debate about hate or acceptance, I personally view it more from a strict educational standpoint. I think there are far more important subjects and topics to discuss.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  59. CarrotCakeMan

    Any time the subject is LGBT Americans, we see the few remaining anti-gays cme out of the woodwork to tell shameful lies about us. The anti-gays falsely claim "Everyone hates and fears LGBT Americans," but anyone who can get to THIS article can see CNN itself proved a clear majority of Americans support marriage equality for their fellow Americans who are LGBT.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • High IQ'er

      You are proving the words of Jesus Christ to be true. "Broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction and MANY are the ones following it, whereas cramped and narrow is the road leading off into life and few are the ones finding it."

      "Men who are kept for UNNATURAL purposes and MEN WHO LIE WITH MEN will NOT inherit the kingdom of God." – 1 CORINTHIANS 6:9

      Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an ABOMINATION.

      To put it in simply, CarrorCakeMan, THE PIECES DO NOT FIT!!!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ken

        I am Sam
        I am Sam
        Sam I amThat Sam-I-am!
        Than Sam-I-am!
        I do not like
        that Sam-I-am!Do you like
        green eggs and ham?I do not like them,
        Sam-I-am.
        I do not like
        green eggs and ham.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ken

        My point being... anyone can ramble off lines from fictional books...

        December 10, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      High IQ'er,

      Leviticus (20:9) also says “If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death”

      So what was your point, if any?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • High IQ'er

        They were to be put to death under the old law. Christ came and replaced this law. What is YOUR point. I do not have a problem with what the Bible teaches, you do.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      If the clear majority is for you, then why do you still get to play the victim card?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      High IQ'er,

      So Christ replaced the old laws, but announced that he wasn't replacing the laws against gays? LOL. LOL.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Michael

    So kids.... The greatest author in history, Shakespeare, wasn't straight and wrote most of his sonnets to a young man. The greatest military leader, Alexander the Great, wasn't straight. The greatest thinker, Socrates, wasn't straight. The greatest inventor, Leonardo Di Vinci, wasn't straight. The greatest artist, Michelangelo, wasn't straight.

    It will be a pity if, instead, they teach the kids the leaders of the LGBT community aren't straight. Kids need to learn gays and lesbians have contributed quite a bit to history. Maybe it will give gay youth courage and strength.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      "Maybe it will give gay youth courage and strength." YES, that's the whole idea, and why anti-gays oppose this. Anti-gays hope to encourage MORE LGBT American teens to commit suicide. We see how anti-gay posters always say they are GLAD some LGBT American teen has committed suicide.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nah

        So you admit the law has a purely political end aimed at indoctrinating kids into accepting "your" beliefs and your world views.

        Bravo.

        Should creationism also be taught?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • David

      American kids are so stupid. Get online sometime and go into a news forum room and read what they write. Their critical thinking and writing skills are so bad it's scary that these kids will run this country one day. By then, I'll be retiring in Europe because I am not staying here.

      A few months ago I remember a teenage girl commenting on the vows of marriage and she tried to reiterate "till death do us part" and she stated it as "til death do us a part". Last night I read a boy teenagers forum post in a news article and he stated that the person being discussed was not being "not being held a countable".

      And this is only the beginning. I have friends my age that have kids and these guys do nothing to help their kids in any way. Basically these kids only exist and the parents are busy smoking dope, drinking, and cheating. These kids have no direction.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • livingwater

      THAT IS A BIG FAT LIE!!!!!!!! DO NOT BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Allyson

        Do not believe what? He's right.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Anthony Woodfolk

    With all love & respect for equality, I feel its good to add this mandate, but only if they also add the accomplishments of African Americans as well. Gays & Lesbians deserve tolerance & fair treatment, but it seems they are being elevated to the status of a race of people when in actuality they are people just like anyone else. I feel we should add the major accomplishments of ALL our people.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      African Americans' achievements and their fight for equality receives the SAME coverage. this new law also requires the teaching of Americans with disabilities and their achievements. Ever heard of Franklin Delano Roosevelt?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nah

        Can we teach the accomplishments of religious people, and try to draw a connection between their religion and their profoundness?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • High IQ'er

        But African Americans and people with disabilities are not necessarily moral deviants.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        Religious accomplishments? That's funny.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ken

        "accomplishments of religious people" like what burning witches? Killing unbelievers? Turning water to wine? Riding into town on a humble donkey? lol

        December 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Andy

        CarrotCakeMan, here's a key difference that makes your argument moot- the other groups you mentioned (African Americans, disabled) didn't CHOOSE their race or disability whereas LGBT chose to be so.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • W247

        Eric and Ken – you are just as intolerant and bigoted as the rest of them.

        How about Mother Theresa? Martin Luther King? William Carey? Just to name a few...

        December 22, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      Races of people are people just like everybody else. No one's being "elevated".

      December 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      Remember when school was a place where you sent your kids to learn about Reading, Writing, and Mathematics? What is the social engineering I see happening these day? Is this what you think people need to learn more than those other three things? I'm not anti-anything, but I do know what school is supposed to be about, and I'm sorry I'm not sending my kids to public school if you are turning it into some kind of social-engineering post-modernistic b.s.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kevin B

        When I went to school in the 70s and 80s, we also had subjects like History, Social Studies, and Civics. Where are you from that you only studied Reading, Writing, and Mathematics?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • stephan

        Cool, more room for my kids to get a well rounded education and not have to be around your ignorant spawn.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nah

      The major accomplishments of every group, no matter how irrelevant their characteristics are, right?

      So if there are a group of redheads, we ought to point out all the redheads throughout history that have done something great.

      If there are a group of anti-semites, by golly, we should teach about Wagner, German scientists, and southern racist inventors.

      If there are a group of European descendants, we should teach that the majority of human accomplishments came from Europe.

      All of those qualities are irrelevant. No one was brilliant "because" they were white, gay, or racist.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • ken

      No time left for Reading, Writing and Arithmetic? School is the place for academic learning and not for social engineering. This is just stupid on its face. What are the leftist lib-tards going to do when Jesus comes and puts a boot up their butts?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • todd

        probably show him your post, the phrase "leftist lib-tard" and have a good laugh before he banishes you to hell

        December 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        ken,
        "What are the leftist lib-tards going to do when Jesus comes and puts a boot up their butts?"

        Exactly what Jesus would have said? Nope. Hypocrisy from a Christian isn't new. It is okay, however, to trash re-tarded people since the Bible discriminates against the handicapped.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • SurRy

        Yours is the funniest post so far – juvenile name-calling, magical thinking, a violent Jesus... lol...

        December 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jen

      I was taught black history in school. I'm pretty sure that's been a mandate for a very long time. I was grateful to know it, proud of my fellow Americans who changed the country for the better and I continue to remember and love that history. However, American schools should do far more WORLD history! That is woefully neglected. I know so many Americans who have never been to another country (not even Canada, Mexico, or Russia...that last one was a joke). Americans need more of a global view. That includes acknowledging GLBT people and their great achievements.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Bill

    I'm a gay, liberal, Californian, and I think this is ridiculous and demeaning. We just want to be treated equally and have our basic civil rights. This is going to cause a backlash against gay kids, and I fear it will increase suicides and the like.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      You are obviously NOT a "gay, liberal Californian" then. Anti-gays lie constantly, and you got caught lying.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      You lie.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • AmericanSam

      What? How is he lying?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
  63. j

    Jesus is coming soon and will rid the world of this filth...

    December 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      The voice you hear in your head that told you to post HATE SPEECH is not Jesus, it comes from the opposite direction.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nah

      1/10. Troll harder?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Allah

      F jebus and all his 'following' morons

      December 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      Whatever, bigot...

      December 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Zheng Xi

      Your religion has been waiting since "Jesus" died. And maybe its just me, but there haven't been any signs he is coming down has there?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      He's been coming soon for 2000 years now.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Wrong for 2,000 years. There's no reason you've GUESSED right this time.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • atroy

      And this time he's bringing his boyfriend.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Bob

    Just another typical day in the land of fruits and nuts.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
  65. I can summarize all of the posts...

    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • ken

      It has been falling for years but you just don't know it yet. The US public schools are in such sad shape due in large part to the fact that they are run by leftist thugs bent on imposing their will on normal citizens and giving away free education to illegal immigrants. This is the reason that my kids go to private schools-to be free of the filth that permeates the public schools. When the rest of us finally impose OUR will and force the crooked politicians to allow vouchers for private schools, this stupid liberal agenda will come to a screeching halt. 2012 is the year we finally put a stop to this.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Karla Porter

        Ken – Who are the 'filth' in the schools you are talking about – children?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jim

        Karla – Not the children, the subject matter. Is English not your first language?

        December 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • BioHrzd420

        I'm not sure what filth you are talking about... literature, trigonometry, biology....you mean a general education. I didn't realize knowledge was so dirty. I know plenty of Ph.Ds and doctors that have risen out of they "filthy" public education system and are doing quite well. I'm sorry that public schools don't have the same means as your pristine "read white" private schools, but we get by and we still learn a thing or two.

        December 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Nobody would think the sky is falling if this weren't anything but abject pro paganda. The new curriculum is supposed to include only the positive contributions of L GBT people, and "ask hard questions" not about lifestyle, or competing mor al worldviews (which are hard questions), or even whether LG BT should be a distinction among human beings, but rather about whether or not LGB Ts should serve in the military, or why doesn't society accept them – more pro paganda.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      The thing that LGBTs and straights have in common is that they are both human beings, and human beings aredeeply flawed, corruptible, and selfish. Trying to spin it so that you only show the good parts of a particular subgroup is incredibly dishonest.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Since history is replete with the stories of such human beings, it is would only be fair to include those stories from the LGB T community as well. But you'll never hear a single objectively negative thing about that community, because it would legitimately undermine the L GBT effort to mora lly equalize and normalize a behavior that is statistically extremely rare, and objectionable to a majority of the population, which is why this curriculum is thus propag anda.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      BTW, I hate the fact that I have to break up everything into multiple comments just to get it past the censors.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
  66. kurtzie

    This is utter nonsense!! Schools need to teach students the basics...reading, writing, math, science, civics, and history. The content should reflect traditional American values.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad V

      Traditional American values like eugenics and the oppression of women? Great idea.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      This falls under Civics and History. So no problem, right?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • khif

      What is more traditional in america than teaching about great people, doing great things? Doesn't that fall in history? LBGT people should feel like they are no different from the rest of the world they should get to believe in themselves too. This is America deal with the fact we are all different.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
  67. John Mathieson

    Gosh, I am so glad that I was born and raised in California, as a gay person worked 32 years and am proud of my accomplishments. So let all those from outside who dont understand our politics judge us for better or worse. I am gay and proud and happy to live in the Great State of California. I have personal friends who administer School Districts and I am proud of them also, str8 and gay ones.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • KrayC

      Well, good for you, John. And did you accomplish everything you've accomplished because you're gay?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • md

      Maybe that why you are gay?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Aces Full

      I'm straight and I'm not "proud" of it, in fact I see no need whatsoever to make any kind of big deal about it, neither do most other straight people as far as I have observed. Perhaps there are differences between straight and gay people beyond orientation?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • superflatz

      Good for you, john. Stay there!!!

      December 10, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Bob

    Why are they leaving out accomplishments of polygamists, nudists, exhibitionists, pedophiles and bestiophiles? I sense discrimination at work here.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nah

      Oh of course. Because being a polygamist, like being an anti-semite, or being gay, or having red hair, has a causal connection with your brilliance and accomplishments.

      This law does nothing but push a political agenda down everyone else's throats.

      It's just like religious people saying "creationism" should be taught in order to show kids "different ways of looking at the world".

      December 10, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin B

      If you want them to teach about your people, you should lobby your lawmakers to make sure you are included in the curriculum also.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bob

        Kevin, why can't people be included because of what they actually accomplished, not where they like to insert their genitals?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kevin B

        Bob, there's no need for you to focus on where people insert their genitals. But we often learn about husbands and wives of famous, accomplished people, as well as parents and children. No need to talk about their genital activity either, as much as you may want to.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Stan

    Come on folks. Is this really going to advance our country? I am sure this just give the rest of the world more reason to laugh at our "values." We will lead the world in LGBT. That is something to help us out of this mess. Really? Wake up!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • James

      You could have said the same about desegregation of blacks and whites.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Karla Porter

        You are right James – and I remember learning about the contributions of women, as if only white men had ever made any. Apparently it's good to learn about biological diversity of other life forms in school but when it comes to human variation it's a big no no.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Did you just compare a mandate to teach LGBT curriculum with desegregation?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Monte253

      Right on.

      December 10, 2011 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Cheeseburger

    Lovely. Mandating the abnormal and unnatural and forcing the rest of us to accept it as normal and natural. The fringe 2% is out of hand. Next thing will be rationalization of the Sandusky's of the world. Something like "oh, he mean well" and somehow he is the victim and some hack in the bogue-science of psychology will write some paper justifying that too. Now I know how the Romans felt when the end was near. Let's sell California to the Chinese to pay down part of the debt.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Sandusky is a church-going, "family values" married REPUBLICAN with a wife and kids. Isn't that supposed to be the best possible situation?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      Amazing! Funny that Christians have caused more wars and death than anyone.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • John Bria

        Not true. Atheistic totalitarian dictators like Hitler and Stalin killed more people than any other people in history.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Monte253

        and there not real christians,but there are Gods true people that won't have anything to do with that.

        December 10, 2011 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andy

      @ john brua: check your facts...you've clearly forgotten about the spanish inquisition (and other religious inquisitions set on by the catholic church nad other christian groups)...as well as the genocides that have been committed on behalf of abrahamaic religions...so yes, while stalin and hitler did kill lots of people, their ranges only span a few decades, whereas the religious massacres happened over THOUSANDS of years...maybe u just cant count.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  71. UhYeaOk

    What a joke. I constantly hear "don't shove your religion down my throat" yet the smallest minority group in America has laws changed to mandate we learn about gays. You could pick a dozen groups that have accomplished great things yet they arn't talked about in school books. I don't advocate against the gays in America but I don't believe their lifestyle should be forced on anyone.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
  72. chrissy

    lol, how 'bout 2 words HOME SCHOOL!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      Without a REAL education, no one will EVER hire them. Please make sure you can support them long after you have died. They will NEVER earn a PENNY with the lies you apparently want to teach them.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • High IQ'er

        You are WITHOUT A DOUBT the most retarded person I have ever come across. Why don't you go back to your "schools" so you can learn to read. Then you can actually educate yourself about the realities of home schooling and the appalling state of Ed. in the US, and then, just maybe, you can have an intelligent conversation.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bonnie

        You are absolutely incorrect. Home schooled children get the same level of education, have to pass the same tests and get full credit to end up in college. Please do not post uneducated comments.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Yep. Keep your kids from an education about the REAL world. Tell them about abstinence too. Worked great for Sarah Palin.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • superflatz

        At least she supports them, not the govt. Hey, isn't that your next gov't check driving up in an armored car? Go back to msnbc. chris needs a new tingle up his leg – hurry!!!

        December 10, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
  73. chrissy

    One word two syllables-----HOMESCHOOL

    December 10, 2011 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
    • KrayC

      I think that's actually 2 words.....just sayin'

      December 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jason

        LOL!!!!

        December 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bonnie

      Absolutely. Home schooling has been made very comfortable for both the student(s) and the parent. It is done through the school district and there IS a certified teacher who leads. It's a wonderful program, enriches the relationship between parent and children, and the program has field trips and other activities for simultaneous social and educational benefits.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
  74. James

    Wow,most of you just don't like Gay people. but what if you just don't like black people or Hispanic people either?
    Answer: You join the GOP.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
    • UhYeaOk

      What a typical post by a leftie. You little whiners cry everytime someone doesn't agree with you and your left wing agenda.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Leo

        You just don't like the fact that he's right. As we all know, REALITY has a very distinct liberal bias.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • moderatesense

      Gay people don't like families or moral values. Bigots

      December 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Aces Full

      It doesn't have anything to do with like or dislike of gay people, the issue is how ridiculous this is! So what is someone is Gay, why does that need to be highlighted? The reality is the LBGT movement is not interested in equality or being left alone, it is interested in being special.

      Kids can barely read and write, basic learning should be focused on, not a progressive agenda like LBGT specialness.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • H in Texas

        yep

        December 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • 3rdEyeOpened

        Bingo!!!!

        December 12, 2011 at 3:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      moderatesense

      "Gay people don't like families or moral values. Bigots'

      100% FACTFREE statement. Well done.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Monte253

      Makes no sense at all,I dont hate gays I do hate what they practice,as God says,You should treat all with respect but that doesn't mean you like what they do.

      December 10, 2011 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
  75. bilbo

    Folks,
    Only an idiot would send their children to be brainwashed in the public schools.

    God help us all

    December 10, 2011 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      Then home-school your children. Just don't expect them to work a single day in their lives with no REAL education. Are YOU going to support these socially unfit children for 90 years?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • David

        @CarrotCakeMan; your ignorance is appalling. Home schooled kids are far more educated and pass all required tests and are above 80% percentile for kids entering colleges. Their socials skills are superior because they grew up in a balanced educational setting instead of being bullied and short-changed.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • High IQ'er

        Actually, the schools in the US are FAR behind in education, and you can provide your child with a FAR SUPERIOR education right at home. Many college level professors teaching future "teachers" cannot even pronounce simple words in the texts. I know because I am a recent graduate with a degree in Education. In regard to children becoming "social misfits," this is ludicrous. There are social networks for all of the people who home school. And by the way, "Home schooling" does not mean you never leave the house. Please do not speak about issues that you are so ignorant about.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • High IQ'er

      Agree 100%

      December 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • BioHrzd420

      Yeah because knowing math and how to read is so brainwashing.

      December 21, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
  76. hhi

    there has been historic transgender accomplishments not noted?...

    December 10, 2011 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
  77. Jesus Is Lord

    Jesus is the answer. He is the ONLY way to the Father in Heaven. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, repent, obey and be saved!

    December 10, 2011 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      What did Jesus have to say about gays? He had a lot to say about hetero adultery, so what did he say?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jesus Is Lord

        @Observer
        Well, if ALL scripture is God breathed (and it is), then Jesus (God) had plenty to say about it.

        Now, go back and read your Bible and DO WHAT IT SAYS!

        December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        Jesus Is Lord,

        So you couldn't answer the question. ZERO quotes.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • superflatz

        Life has many choices. Afterlife only has two. I pray you pick the right one!!

        December 10, 2011 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • cmxsmitty

      You've been lied to.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      Then kneel and be humble and do not point out the faults of others with your own display of pride.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Shawn

    What a shame that these kids will think this is "normal" behavior. What a shame to teach this in schools....

    December 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      What a shame for YOU, Shawn, that so very few Americans share your hatred and FEAR of LGBT Americans. Anti-gays are STILL trying to revoke the law, but they can't fool even ONE PER CENT of California voters to help them.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
      • moderatesense

        As America becomes more tolerant, other countries use the American Flag to wipe their butt. Get America back on track and put REAL education as first priority. Math, science, writing, and history without mentioning H0M0's

        December 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Monte253

        Yes God did say only a few would be saved in the near future so that agrees with what you said

        December 10, 2011 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • cmxsmitty

      Its a shame that you probably believe women are the weaker species too. Grow up – its the 21st century.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • sa12

        Biologically, measuring muscle mass, skeletal structure and bone density, they are a more physically weaker gender. Mentally, now that's debatable.

        December 23, 2011 at 4:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Jesus Is Lord

      CarrotCakeMan, my fear is of God – not man. Shouldn't yours be also?

      BTW, it's the gay community that spews out threats of violence towards those who don't agree with you. So, don't be a hypocrite!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      Shawn, if your kid is gay, they were born that way. Nobody can "turn" someone gay. You Christians really make me sick.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
  79. stormy miller

    the accomplishments of the lgbt community should be taught. just as accomplishments of women, blacks. latinos, jews, indians and all other minority groups. the white conservative establishment of america needs to realize that the world does not revolve around them nor was not created by them.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      Well now you're just being racist toward white people.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
  80. Delray

    Look at the photo of the class, all mexicans... California has become a disgusting representation of our country

    December 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
    • stormy miller

      what is a disgusting representation of america are ignorant people that make stupid comments like you just did.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
  81. OBSERVER

    Sodom and Gamorah are like DisneyLand compared to our society today. Cant wait for the flood.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      Christians should be burned at the stake for witchcraft...

      December 10, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Big Bubba

      Actually, Revelations teaches that it will be fire, not flood.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Karla Porter

    K-12 education must prepare youth for the workforce – which is open to all individuals who can and want to work and isn't permitted to discriminate. If youth are not prepared to work and compete in a diverse workforce they will face an exceptionally challenging path to professional success. That's just one reason why social studies & American culture classes need to teach about human diversity. Just because I learn about a particular aspect of how some individuals are doesn't mean it will change me – however, it will educate me – and education is a prominent key to tolerance. If I am not tolerant, how can I work side-by-side with, report to or manage someone different than I am in a highly effective way without negative feelings that will poorly impact my performance, that of others and the organization?

    December 10, 2011 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Mary E

      True

      December 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wowsers

      Hey Karla,

      You're train of thought is completely wrong, please try to think more critically for once. Of all the problems in our schools and serious issues about how to better prepare kids for the future, they're going to have a mandate for this? The school systems, especially California, are falling apart and this is a waste of time when there are so many more important education topics that schools need to be better prepared to teach (i.e. math, science, etc). This is a waste of resources that could be better used and this is the perfect example of why California is broke and a backwards state.

      Hope you can wrap your mind around that crazy thought

      December 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wowsers

      Of aIl the problems in our schools and serious issues about how to better prepare kids for the future, they're going to have a mandate for this? The school systems, especially California, are falling apart and this is a waste of time when there are so many more important education topics that schools need to be better prepared to teach (i.e. math, science, etc). This is a waste of resources that could be better used and this is the perfect example of why California is broke and a backwards state.

      Hope you can wrap your mind around that crazy thought

      December 10, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Danny

    Ah man more useless crap I have to learn in school. I mean why do they have to teach this most people really just don't care about if gay or lesbian or whatever I wish they would focus more on educating us on stuff we will need in the future.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      Fully 80% of Americans wanted and GOT DADT revoked. You must give up your silly fantasy that everybody else shares your fear of LGBT Americans.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      With your reasoning, why teach black history?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • sa12

        I don't know, color shouldn't be a factor. We should share their merits because they were great not because they were performed by one of a certain color or gender.

        December 23, 2011 at 4:14 am | Report abuse |
  84. KrayC

    ....and furthermore I want all this anti-astrologist hate to stop. I am a Capricorn and there isn't enough emphasis in the schools on the contributions of my kind to science, history, business, government, social causes, etc. I demand that we Capricorns be acknowledged and appreciated. We, as a society, don't do enough to educate our children about the abuses that have been perpetrated upon Capricorns since the advent of astrology. And let's not forget reparations to my people. Open your minds and wallets, people. I'm a human, just like the rest of you. It's shameful that I don't get special treatment and recognition just because I happened to be born in mid-January. Where is the justice in that!

    December 10, 2011 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Nah

      Hah. Exactly.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • cmxsmitty

      Yes but no one killed an astrologist just for being an astrologist. And they are allowed to get married and serve their country. Also – you choose to believe in astrology – you aren't born that way.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • KrayC

        Uh, yeah...I was born that way. See, there you go...hating me because I was born in mid-January. You just proved my point. And you better freshen up on some history, pal. In the 1300's in Persia, King Ahmetabab forbade marriage between different Zodialogical groups. Many thousands of Capricorns were slaughtered when they ignored the law and married outside their sign. Were you schooled in California or what?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  85. TheColorPurple

    OH NOZ! – IT'S TEH GAY! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!! ....and tomorrow will still be a new day. Some people will never realize that they aren't the "be all, end all". It's futile trying to stop human nature, so don't get your panties in a wad folks.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
  86. Rolando Molina

    This once great Country is fast approaching its sunset in the worlds history of great nations and world empires. Repent! Repent! REPENT, for the kingdom of God is at hand!

    December 10, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Bonnie

      Yes, and check out Romans Chapter 1 and 2nd Corinthians Chapter 6, verses 14-18 in the Bible, that warns us of what is happening in this country and around the world right now.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
      • Jason

        Pleaes tell me this, why have Christians caused more wars and death to others than ANY OTHER type of person in history? Please enlighten me chosen one...I thought God doesn't make mistakes, so when a person is born gay, how is that a mistake and "evil"?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • John Gabriel

      It's approaching its end because of uneducated stupid people like you!

      December 10, 2011 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      Maybe you'd better just run away. How about Iran? There's no REAL difference between Muslim intolerance and "Christianist" intolerance. Please leave today.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      If you REALLY cared about "sin" you'd pick on the FAR FAR GREATER number of CHRISTIANS who commit adultery by remarring.

      It's all "pick and choose" hypocrisy.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • cmxsmitty

      I don't need saving and if the kingdom of God is at hand all the gay people won't be there then why do you care?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Charles Manson

    Land of fruits an nuts....

    December 10, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  88. Elvis

    Check out this site on Facebook: "Exposing the Hompolitical Agenda" for an objective analysis on the myths and rhetoric behind the gay movement. Don't let the name fool you, it is friendly to diversity viewpoints as long as the discussions are relevant to the forum.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      NO ONE will be fooled by the lies pushed by that or any other anti-gay HATE CULT.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
  89. James

    wow, most of you just don't like Gay people. but what if you just don't like black people or Hispanic people either.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
    • nwatcher

      ...last reply didn't get through – I'll try again

      Can you look in the mirror and see that you are gay?
      Can you look in the mirror and see that you are black?
      Can you use common sense to conclude that being of a different race is NOT the same as your ___orientation?
      -civil rights argument is a straw man-

      December 10, 2011 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Mel

      Exactly, years ago people felt quite confident that saying "I don't like black people and don't care," and thought it was a perfectly acceptable reason to support segregation and such. Now the descendants of these neanderthals are saying "i just don't want it in my face..." yet they fail to see any similarities. I wonder what it's like to just NOT KNOW any better.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
  90. edumacator

    So now I HAVE to teach Oscar WIlde and Walt Whitman!?! What is this state coming too? "Stiff Necked Fools"

    December 10, 2011 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
  91. Bonnie

    Moderator, where is my post of 11:42AM PST??????

    December 10, 2011 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
    • KrayC

      Oh, sorry about that, Bonnie. We'll have that right up. It might take a half hour or so. So, don't go anywhere. Just keep hitting refresh and scrolling though until you find it. We want to make sure the world reads what you have to say. I'm sure it will be profound.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
  92. Scarabus

    Honestly... I don't really care if they wish to teach that LGBT people have existed throughout the annals of history. However, does it matter if someone was gay, a lesbian, transgendered, black, white, Asian, Filipino, insert any other minorty; or does it matter what they accomplished? I have no doubt someone is going to take offense to this on a message board since there are always people who will, but I don't care what you are, how you like to live your life. What matters to me are the accomplishments one is able to achieve. I was always taught in school that someone's nationality, religion, gender, or any other trait was not what caused them to do good or bad things. It was the actions they performed whether or not they were evil.

    I guess those teachings were wrong, its a result of your s3xuality.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
    • AmericanSam

      Teaching about the good people that fit a particular demographic will promote acceptance by other demographics.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
    • KrayC

      Exactly.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Scarabus

      My thoughts are that we should be teaching kids to look past these ultimatly petty issues. How is that possible when a group is being singled out to be glorified. Acceptance doesn't mean to make a big deal out of someone's lifestyle... Tolerance and acceptance is looking past it to find the person within. Will the world ever get to a perferctly tolerant place? only if the internet does first... so not likely.

      Whenever one group is put ahead of other groups, issues arise. Thats why we have this problem in the first place. LGBT were discriminated against and in some places and at some times persecuted. This has happened to every minority type in the history of earth (not excusing it, just making a point). Did affirmitive action work in making black people respected? I don't believe so. The changing of the guard, the newer generation with a more liberal view on people raised with the thought of not to care about the color of one's skin, but the content of their character.

      Just like hiring someone on the basis they are black is wrong, I think this can be wrong (depending on how it will be taught) and lead to issues in the future.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  93. NEFan77

    I will accept the LGBT agenda when they can produce for me a human child created by 2 men or 2 women. Since science (the same science they apparently don't teach in California anymore) has taught me that this can't happen then I have no reason to accapt that their agenda is correct. Instead I would prefer to learn History and Social Sciences by studying the contributions of great men and women, regardless of the deviant behavior they exhibited in their lives.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      2 gay men and 2 lesbians can produce children like 2 men and 2 women can produce children.

      Take a basic course in biology so you'll know better.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      A clear and quickly growing majority of Americans fully support marriage equality for their fellow Americans who are LGBT. DADT was REVOKED because 80% of Americans know DADT hurt America, not just LGBT Americans. You are free to be one of the few remaining anti-gays. But I bet you dont dare tell you family or your coworkers about this overarching hatred and fear of LGBT Americans you feel.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
      • res123

        CarrotCakeMan, you just made my day. I've spent way to much time reading through these comments, feeling saddened by the hatred and intolerance being voiced by so many responses. It's nice to be reminded that the majority of Americans don't share the ideals and viewpoints expressed by some of these people.

        December 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      You must hate black people too.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • UrbanDF

      How does the ability of gays to reproduce have anything to do with the legitimacy of their supposed "agenda"???

      December 10, 2011 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mel

      lol their agenda? Their "agenda" is to be treated fairly and equally without bigots like you voting to repress their rights. While your quite blatant "agenda" is to keep others as second class citizens. I'm not sure why you think you're better than anyone, when you have proven that you are intellectually stunted. Your "logic" is essentially that if you can't produce children then you shouldn't be accepted.... that is just brilliant.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      People are born gay, there is no "agenda" to turn your kids gay. Silly....

      December 10, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  94. AmericanSam

    We teach about the Civil Rights Movement in school because it was mandated at one time to do that. Otherwise, children probably would not have heard much about it. It's time for kids to learn that 1) gay people are not evil and 2) gay people have made a number of achievements for the human race.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      It's unnecessary to teach this. Kids aren't stupid. They see that LGBT people are normal and capable human beings. I still don't understand why you have to single people out in American history who are gay.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
      • John Gabriel

        Evidently they do not see this. Why is there still bullying and discrimination?

        December 10, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        Bullying and discrimination are going to take place amongst kids no matter how much you try to indoctrinate them. I think we should teach kids the important milestones in gay civil rights (getting rid of DADT for example) and pointing out how gay marriage is still a fight that is ongoing, but aside from these important topics, I don't think it's necessary to go out of your way to single out gay people in US history.

        December 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
      • thecentrist11

        I think that it's more for the gay-kids than it is for the general population. There are a lot of gay kids that get bullied and hate who they are. There have been a ridiculous number of suicides because of related incidents. We can definitely do more to address this problem.

        December 10, 2011 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Scarabus

        @JOhn Gabriel

        Human nature is why there is bullying. Not everyone who has been bullied in school as been a part of LGBT. Sometimes straight white boys get bullied to. Bullying happens when one kid can make themselves feel better at the expense of another kid; and they will use whatever difference they can find to do it. So unless you can clone every kid to look, act, perform exactly the same... Bullying in one form or another will always exist as it has existed since the dawn of popularity.

        December 10, 2011 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
      • AlwaysRight

        Kids are right because they don't have stupid gay adults telling them that it's okay, when it's not.

        December 10, 2011 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      So it is okay to teach history of what blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Muslims, Christians, and straight people have done, but it is not okay to teach anything else???? Are you that naive?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cheeseburger

        Let's teach what pedophiles, murderers, and rapists have done too. You wouldn't know a syllogism if it hit you in the face. Are you that naive?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jason

        You do know there are many more straight people that are pedophiles and rapists don't you, a LOT more?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Cornerman

    When the big attack on America starts, the take-over will start in California. The anti-American recruits will be there waiting to lend a hand to our enemies. The people that hate us are watching and laughing as all of this ridiculous (so called) educational change is being put in place along with all the other bizarre rules that start in this communist state.
    If one wants to find the people that hate this great country the most, just go west to California.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
  96. Cassarit

    I think we need a Christian version of the Taliban.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      The Bible has most of the same commands to kill people that radical terrorists believe in. Jesus just got God to change his mind about all the killing.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
  97. momintx

    Ahhh another reason I am so glad I moved out of California. God bless Texas.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      Hope you don't miss your GOOD job too much, and you're enjoying your McDonald's part-time, no benefit Texas job.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
      • momintx

        LOl I enjoy my 6 figure job thanks.

        December 10, 2011 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
    • Fred

      Oh. That's right. It must be better to live in a state whose education system replaces civil rights curriculum with lessons about how the UN is a threat to our "national security" and an education system that slaps kids with misdemeanor charges for misbehaving in class...have fun.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      I live in TX, it sucks!!

      December 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • UrbanDF

      I work in the state legislature in Austin...Not to worry, me and many others here are working hard to rid Texas of its social backwardness and bring such enlightened ideas such as this one to Texas in the near future.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mel

      Gross, you are just one more reason I wish Texas had seceded. I hope you two are very happy with one another lol

      December 10, 2011 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Jon

    The thing I don't get is...why focus on the LGBT aspect rather than the historical impact? They're just segregating LGBT into a different group of people. Why not teach about great Muslim scholars because we have a growing number of Muslims in our country. Or we could talk about the great Mongolians in our country's history....oh, and the many Ugandans who have contributed to society....or all of the Irish Americans who did great things. Just teach history for the sake of history...not to appease people

    December 10, 2011 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
    • nwatcher

      Thank you!!

      December 10, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
    • agreed.

      thank you jon for that comment. I'm for equal treatment, and all should have a fair part, but why give gays higher status than the rest? Are people of other walks of life not allowed in this?

      December 10, 2011 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Fred

        "higher status"? Are you Rick Perry?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • SeanC

        Again, this law is not about adding to but instead about not leaving out.

        December 10, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      LOL? Umm, they do teach about Muslims...

      December 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • UrbanDF

      The argument is very simple: it's simply to increase awareness and acceptance of all diverse groups of people during the course of human history. Otherwise, I promise you that many kids, such as myself in school, will go their entire childhood thinking that gays besides the ones at the mall have had no significant and "positive" role in history. Obviously the focal point of the recognition of Leonardo Da Vinci, Isaac Newton, King Edward II, Alexander the Great, etc. is not the fact that they were gay, but just including the fact that these men and many others were gay serves to improve acceptance and the image of a group that in modern society has more negative stereotypes than good ones. Just like many schools now deliberately recognize blacks and hispanics that have achieved success in science, politics, etc. for the sake of helping to eliminate stereotypes that all minorities are economically and socially stagnant. (I am a gay latino who ended up going to MIT. Having learned of successful latinos in history gave me good role models...I only wish that I had had famous gay role models to follow as well).

      December 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jason

        Well said, UrbanDF!

        December 10, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
  99. moderatesense

    As America becomes more tolerant, other countries use the American Flag to wipe their butt. Get America back on track and put REAL education as first priority. Math, science, writing, and history without mentioning but pirates and butch dikes

    December 10, 2011 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
  100. Merrin of Giles

    It doesn't matter one iota whether or not the person is gay, lesbian, trans-gender or purple with pink polka dots!!!! What matters is the contribution they made. Period. Anyone who thinks otherwise should be shot because they are just stupid.

    December 10, 2011 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Jojo

      It shouldn't matter but it does. The fact is if you are deemed out of the main stream you are really facing significant barriers to making a contribution in the first place.

      December 10, 2011 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
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