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As California mandate looms, some LGBT curriculum already in place
California schools must meet a January deadline to include LGBT history in their curricula.
December 10th, 2011
06:00 AM ET

As California mandate looms, some LGBT curriculum already in place

By Debra Goldschmidt, CNN In America

(CNN) - In 10th grade English at Los Angeles’ Grover Cleveland High School, Danielle Taklender's students read the book "Luna" by Julie Anne Peters.  It's a story about a transgender teen.

Taklender has been teaching the book for seven years without any fanfare or push back. It’s getting noticed now as her school district takes the lead in developing a plan to comply with the first state law mandating lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender history and social science curricula. The California law, which takes effect in January, stops short of dictating how schools are to comply and leaves that up to the districts and schools themselves to figure out.

Taklender uses "Luna" to expose students to new vocabulary and different ways of thinking about pronouns. The students discuss gender identity versus sexual orientation, as well as gender roles in literature.  Taklender said she teaches this book the same way she teaches every other book.

She says the only negative feedback she has run into was a parent who once requested an alternate assignment after the class finished reading the book.

“No students ever say they changed their sexual orientation because of it,” Taklender said.

The new law, called the California Fair Education Act, also requires schools teach about the contributions of Native Americans, and people with disabilities. It also bans instructional materials that adversely reflect on a person due to their sexual orientation. The requirements are actually an expansion to the education code already in existence, which requires lesson plans to include various ethnic groups.

But it is not without controversy. Some opponents have religious objections, others say it’s part of sex education and belongs at home not in schools.  Others simply don’t want this taught to their children.

So far, opposition efforts to repeal the law, which passed last summer, have failed. There are currently at least five initiative measures awaiting review by the attorney general that could make their way on the ballot for next year's election, but it’s too late to stop the law that takes effect next month. If any of the ballot measures pass, they will undo the curriculum that is already in place.

Although individual teachers, like Taklender, have innovated LGBT studies, there aren’t any system-wide models for districts to duplicate, said Jill Marcellus, a spokeswoman for the Gay-Straight Alliance Network.

The Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network’s 2009 National School Climate Survey found that about 13% of students were taught in a positive way about lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people in any of their classes.

Scott Hirschfeld, director of curriculum at the Anti-Defamation League, said kids can go from kindergarten through 12th grade without ever learning about an LGBT person.

“They are really getting an incomplete history,” he said. “The reality is that in most schools this is not a standard part of curriculum.”

In California, many schools have taken a wait-and-see approach, but not the Los Angeles Unified School District. In September, they set a 60-day deadline to develop a new curriculum. This was added to a resolution for affirmation of the district's anti-bullying measures to protect lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

The change isn’t much different than in 2004, when the districts had to update health materials to address gender and sexuality, said Judy Chiasson, program coordinator for Los Angeles Unified School District’s Office of Human Relations, Diversity and Equity. At the time, the district had to create its own material, she said, because there wasn't anything similar out there.

The district has reviewed what is already working in some of its classrooms.  Educators have also looked at materials by groups including the Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Poverty Law Center, University of California Los Angeles and University of Southern California. Those materials are the basis of a draft implementation plan for Los Angeles schools that is currently under review by the district Superintendent, a spokeswoman said.

In the meantime, at Downtown Magnets High School in Los Angeles, Daniel Jocz's eleventh grade history students continue to discuss lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues. The subject has been part of Jocz's lesson plans since he started teaching seven years ago. Some days, that means a discussion about language: the negative use of the word 'gay' or using 'guys' to describe women.  His students will often compare and contrast the use of  these words with racial slurs.

The students have also looked at case studies that compare the 1955 murder of 14-year-old African-American Emmett Till in Mississippi with the 1998 murder of gay Wyoming college student, Matthew Shepard.

"There are parallels between the gay situation and the civil rights movement,” Jocz said. "If you don't include it as part of the narrative, you are ignoring it. You have to acknowledge it.”

Every generation has altered the way history is taught in schools, New York University history and education Professor Jonathan Zimmerman said. In the 1920s, it was the Irish, in the 1950s and 1960s, it was African-Americans and in the 1970s, it was Latinos.

“There was a time when history books only had white guys,” Zimmerman said. “Over time, successive groups fought to have their story become part of the main story.”

Adding lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender studies is no different, he said. But schools must be careful not to just celebrate the group - they need to address tough questions and do some hard thinking. For example, he said, sending soldiers to fight for freedom for others while denying gay freedom in the military.

“We need to think about why we’re including them and what the purpose of these stories is in the first place,” Zimmerman said.

Which is why schools are looking at Taklender’s English class and Jocz’s history class.  They are still trying to learn how this generation’s history will be taught.

Taklender and Jocz say they are just doing their jobs.

"Even though I knew it was revolutionary,” Taklender said, “I didn't think it was a big deal."


Filed under: Community • Education • History • How we live • Sexual orientation
soundoff (2,229 Responses)
  1. LicenseToSteal

    They are completely wacked!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  2. leonid7

    With so many comments calling for what is essentially segregation i.e. keep your gay stuff out of our schools, I'm shocked that so few seem to notice the parallel between this and the civil rights movement. Acknowledging that gays existed, especially through centuries of persecution, is not indoctrination. It's call objectivity. And whilst I agree that math and science are sorely lacking in our students, mentioning the word gay in a history class is not really going to make a math class any worse than it already is.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Doug

      Some of us see people as individuals, we are called conservatives, those who wish to divide us up to create hate are the same people who started the klan Democrats.

      The Democrat plan is far more transparent then you believe, the great society that has caused genocide in our innercities over the last 45 years has been conducted by.....well just look at the party in power in all of these areas, Democrats.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • leonid7

        You need to do some serious fact checking.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • STFU

        Ohh Doug politicians love guys like you towing the party line.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Doug

        Typical Democrat, my post is factually sound so the Democrat can only spew its hate, if their were facts that needed to be checked then the lib would have something to post, but since its just a being of hate, lies, and selfishnes, it takes offense to the truth.

        LBJ started the great society, its effects are seen in cities under complete Democrat rule over the last 40 years, Detroit, Camden, Newark ETC. The klan starting Democrats may be more cleaver today, but its still the same, all hate and lies, division for control.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • RedSox2007

      If a historical figure was gay then to mention it is fine but to specifically spotlight gay people is an agenda not teaching.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nick

      school cirriculum should strive for objectivity and not pandering to any certain groups.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • leonid7

        So, mentioning that someone is gay is pandering?

        December 10, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • shawan

        you would have thought that obvious, but California defies logic.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kevin

        leonid- it is when the detail is irrelevant. Mentioning the $exual orientation of Newton is irrelevant within the context of his contributions. Was there some causal or correlated relationships between that and his work, perhaps, but I'm guessing that's behind the scope of most HS classrooms (more of a sociology thing I suppose).

        December 10, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kevin

        sorry, beyond the scope.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
  3. SurRy

    Nah, the stupid seem to breed like rabbits

    December 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Your Father

    That explains everything. Now go back into your closet. You're punshised for one week.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  5. ThatMan

    Well said, cameo – well said!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  6. juliamcfit

    School is much more than english and math. It's about teaching our kids tolerence and understanding to become well rounded individuals. The more a child knows and understands about any marginalized group the less likely they are to bully that group.
    Tolerence patience and understanding!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • bwc2221

      Translation: school is about indoctrinating students in the values I agree with.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • superflatz

      Why don't you teach him/her patience and tolerance (note the spelling) at home? Let schools educate in core studies; not indoctrinate into perversions. You belong in CA. Too bad they let you vote nationally.

      December 10, 2011 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Linda Uresti

        Who decides what is a perversion?

        December 10, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Paul

    This is a pointless law.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  8. todd

    you know the book a christmas carol? youre the wretched child of ignorance with the ghost of christmas present

    December 10, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  9. mickey

    you fall from the same tree as ones that used to say black people can't see at night. it's called the tree of ignorance.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Cesar

    Here come the religious people! Everyone with a logic...GET TO COVER!!!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey1313

      Agreed, thiests Can't Understand Normal Thoughts...

      December 10, 2011 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      "with a logic"....I guess you consider yourself a genius compared to all of us who believe in God.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Linda Uresti

        Genius no... But, I definitely consider myself more accepting of people and their problems. It seems that all most religious people do nowadays is hate others. If your children are the perfectly straight people you think they are, you have nothing to worry about.

        Matthew 5:43-44 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

        Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

        December 10, 2011 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
  11. d

    California=joke

    December 10, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      texas, oklahoma, rest of the south = bad joke

      December 10, 2011 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • martn

      lol, the rest of the country looks at california the way the rest of the world looks at the united states, with a bitterness caused by envy

      December 10, 2011 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey1313

        its not envy man, it is embarassement. I think, man I share genes with these "people". But Im speaking of the "right" and the thiests, not the CA'ers.

        But The same is for all of america, we are a sad lot, who have learned nothing from history. We are letting our government do to us, what we fought the brits for doing to us. We need to rise up and let the government remember it serves us, not the other wa around.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • HalTheDink

        Are you sure about that?

        December 10, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  12. jaybee

    if you are a male, you've obviously never tried it...if you are a female, you don't know much about the male anatomy and the erogenous zones

    December 10, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  13. ThatMan

    Honorably said, HalThe Dink – nice.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  14. martn

    Dude, 1950 called; they want you back...

    December 10, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  15. chrgyr

    There is really nothing to worry about, since our kids no longer learn anything in the failed experiment of public education. Teachers are just baby sitters.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey1313

      ignorant f-wad. The system hasnt failed, we have failed. We took away the right to punish, and our schools went to s**t. We took away the need to know english, so the system fails due to the fact that many kids speak no english. If public shcool is a failure, then why DOES THE ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD GOT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL, AND ALL FAR OUTPREFORM AMERICANS? it is not the system that has failed, it is AMERICA THAT HAS FAILED.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jeff

        Sorry but you facts are wrong. We are not in the top 10 true. However if we look closer we do much better than you might think. Most of the other countries have almost no 2nd language learners or immigration at all. However if you compare our Asian students to Asina countries we are top 5, The same goes for Hispanic and WHite students. It is only when you mix them all together that we drop. There is a reason S. Clemens said "there are lies, damn lies and statistics"

        December 10, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey1313

        To jeff, sorry man but you are wrong. All european (EU) nations MUST learn a 2nd language. Most american cant grasp there 1st language let alone the 2nd. You cant split the US up by race to make the figures mesh with your theory. I agree about the clemons quote, but you just have to look at the GPA difference in america vs europe. When a child in scandinavia gets a C they are in trouble, more often then not in america a C is rewarded.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      Wow learn nothing huh? I am so sick of people who have not spent a day on a school campus condemning what they know little about. You want to see score improve, let teachers to continue to do the good job that most are doing, but base your tax rate on your students performance. WHat you will see is some parents finally get involved with their childers education and huge improvements. Time and time again I see it and that is the biggest factor, the more involved we you are as parents the better your students will do. If you don't show an interest at home they won't in the classroom. Or is that teachers fault too?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey1313

        I agree with that statment 100%. If the parents are forced to take responsibility for there childeren then the kids would do much better. To many patents use the TV and the X-box as a nanny, and simply dont interact on any level with there kids in there education.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      all i can say about this is this: public school, charter, private. You can bring a horse to water but you can't make them drink. the difference is the working poor dont have expensive things to withhold from their kids if they dont drink

      December 10, 2011 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Jeff

    ANd I am sure you think the world is about 6000 years old, evolution dosent exist and Jesus is right around the corner...It is qute how you mizpell wordz so you kan bee a bigot on da boardz.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
  17. stickyd

    Here's a brilliant idea. How about just teaching accomplishments of individuals? Why does it matter if they are straight, LGBT? Just another way to indoctrinate and erode society. They need to be more focused on the basics and learning instead of pushing a political agenda by the progressive Liberals.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      And what is and was not being said is that is how most will handle this change. I don't spend Feb. only teaching African-American history but I weave it in when an African-American has made an accomplishment.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey1313

        Jeff, I agree with you again. I think that this stuff along with black asian and hispanic contributons should be taught when they come up, not a special month where you talk only about them, and then ignore there contributions the rest of the year. Second hats off to you for teaching the youth, it is a hard job, made harder by dumb laws. I have a good friend whos mother is a 3rd grade teacher in CO, and they have made the laws shift so much, that she has had he pay radically cut, and her tenure about to mean nothing simply because there are too many hispanic non-english speakers in her class, thus she cannot teach them.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Hawkeye1012

    And we wonder why the Chinese are eating our lunch...

    December 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Linda Uresti

      Because most of the Chinese farm, and only and only the top percent tested get to go to school.

      December 10, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Bill

    gave an inch and they want a mile

    December 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Craig

    Militant gays: keep your agenda out of our schools. Where's the hetero educational curriculum?

    December 10, 2011 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      hetero is not a class of people that experienced victimization (spare me your crocodile tears). but to answer anyway, every other page of the book

      December 10, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pattysboi

      It's already there, Craig. Get a clue, and grow UP.

      December 10, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
  21. sharky

    Something to consider, does anyone care at all that Gregor Mendal, the father of genetics, was an Augustinian FRIAR, and lived in an Abbey??? NO, people cared that he was the father of genetics. Did people the majority of this country even know he was an Augustinian Friar? Most likely no. Does anyone care at all that Jane Addams, the founder of Hull House, was a lesbian? NO, people cared that she founded Hull House. Did the majority of this country even know she was a lesbian? Most likely no.

    Are we now going to label every aspect of a person, make their private lives known just so no one is singled out? WHO CARES!!!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      I'm very pleased to meet you. I don't know if there are many of us left that think this way. We should organize and all move to one geographic location and rule.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • martn

      fI didn't know that, but his son, Howie, does a great job on Deal or No Deal!

      December 10, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • dontlabelpeople

      sharky,i couldn't agree more! people need to stop labeling and generalizing. schools should teach what's actually important, ie people's contributions to society, not whether that person happened to be catholic, jewish, muslim, gay, straight, white, black, hispanic, asian, etc

      December 10, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey1313

      I agree to a point, but with todays system emplying that there is no benifit of the GLB crowd, there has to be a point made to point out that they do contribute to socity. The empression that one is left with if you look at the book now, is that the GLB comunity has not contributed to this nation, and furter more, the stigma of a "preverse and ignorant" group is still verry prolific. If there is a black history class there should be a GLB class.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • sharky

        Conversely do you see any benefit or accomplishments from the religious world? Or do you only see those people as fruitloops? The founding figures of science the majority were religious, is that being talked about in school? Nope. As soon as religion is mentioned in public school all chaos breaks loose.

        NO ONE has ever begrudged the contributions or accomplishments of the LGBT community, I certainly do not, however, if that is ALL anyone is going to care about then what is the point of school. We are supposed to be a society that does not label, since when does someone being gay matter more than what they have contributed to society?

        Next thing you know we will be like the Egalia pre-school in Sweden that is 100% gender neutral where no genders are mentioned.

        Quite frankly with the absolutely miserable education system in this country caring about whether someone is gay or straight as opposed to actually FIXING the education system, is quite scary to me.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        "emplying"...It seems your school spent too much time on this politically correct nonsense and not enough on English.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Linda Uresti

      Well, I do agree with kids with role models. If a child can see that someone like themselves has made it out of school and become successful maybe it'll prevent it will prevent another teenager from committing suicide.

      December 10, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Tom

    Look it's Simple: You snip your Penis and you will get Bullied/Teased/Ridiculed no matter what Tolerance/Education/Political Correct Programs the Government shoves down our throats. You're a damn freak and I have no sympathy. Lesbian/Bi/Gay should be accepted by society as need to kick the Transgenders out of the Group.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  23. chrgyr

    This is just another reason for home schooling. Education that really works!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Mattmchugh

    There is limitless variety of events and perspective one could choose to focus on when studying history. What happens to get covered or not in a classroom is simply fashion. The notion that one approach or another is more inclusive or accurate is delusional.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  25. LicenseToSteal

    Glad my youngest just graduated highschool. This world is becoming more and more weird with each passing decade.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • cajr

      you thought high school was chock full of liberal garbage, wait till college. your kid will probably be brainwashed in a year and will then drop out to protest at one of the occupy camps, all the while smelling like a farm animal. scary.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Tex Gritter

    Two things about teaching the history of so-called "gays": One, there is very little POSITIVE history. Second, there is almost NO FUTURE in such a lifestyle.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam Gardner

      WOW, go clean your gun, and if you like your neighbors too

      December 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey1313

      Without the GLB community we whould not have most of the music, liturature, art, or other entertainment we have today, not to mention most philosphy and history of the ancents. It is the puratinacal victorian socity that is anti choice. If you were all more talerent and realized that it is no ones business who sleeps with who, the world would be much more peaceful. But all thiests believe "love everyone, unless they disagree with you, then burn them". A very hypocritacal view.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tex Gritter

        Besides the fact that you can't spell, you are wrong about me and most of the people that I know down here in our part of the Country.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • sharky

        Odd, and all Atheists believe religion should ONLY be in private not in public. So someone screams bloody murder if any hint of religion is in public, and instantly it should be removed and that is that. Yet religion is not taught in public schools. If someone opposes the gay life style, I personally don't care, but why should that be imposed on people or their kids if they have strong objections to it. Cannot have it both ways. We have a monumental problem in our education system anyway, it far exceeds having to teach about the LGBT community.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve-o

        @mickey1313; nice try but the majority of music, liturature, art, or other entertainment comes from straight folk.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • superflatz

        If you want to learn how to put a pink scarf with balloon pants, go see mickey. Leave the rest to the good, str8 folks!!

        December 10, 2011 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Makikijoe

      Tex:

      Fiist things first.

      I don't have a "lifestyle". I have a life.

      Don't denigratre my life by calling it a "style" . Then, I won't denigrate your life like that.

      Belgium now has a openly gay Premeir.

      So does Iceland. If you don't believe me, google it.

      Houston has a openly gay mayor. So does Portland Oregon. And Providence, Rhode Island has had an openy gay mayor.

      There are many gays who are planning to runfor office in 2012, including Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin who is running for the Senate in Wisconsin.

      All of these folks have contributed to society. And they will give their time and talents to society in the future.

      The list of gay folks in the arts is be too long to type here.

      We are everywhere. And young people who are gay AND who are straight should be taught about it.

      So they will hold their heads up high. So they will know that PLENTY of gay people have gone before them. And that there will always be gay folks. So therefore, there is nothing to be shamed of.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • jaybee

        post of the week

        December 10, 2011 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pattysboi

      Wrong. Look up the following, and report back to the class first thing Monday morning. Michelangelo, Walt Whitman, Jane Addams, Clara Barton, King James I, President James Buchanan, Allan Turing, Alexander the Great, Queen Christina, Peter the Great, Leonard Bernstein, Gertrude Stein, Elton John, Sir John Gielgud, and Bayard Rustin.

      All contributed greatly to society as we know it, and all of them were GAY.

      December 10, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Ryan

    Just a smokescreen in an attempt for them to disguise how bad their schools are....

    December 10, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      theres no disguisng that, how would a huge controversial issue on a mainstream news site disguise anything? how good was your school ffs, apparently it didnt teach you to reason

      December 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  28. todd

    whats wrong about it

    December 10, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Saturn7

      two grown men holding hands, kissing, sleeping together, and ............... well, lets just say, it aint right.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Craig

      The poopchute is one way, Todd. That's whats wrong with it. It's not made for what you freaks do to it.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tex Gritter

      Everything is wrong with it, sir. Nature itself will tell you that a man and a woman belong together, sort of like "Male and Female parts". Not to mention that there is absolutely no way any two men or two women can ever, or have ever MADE A BABY!

      December 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
  29. mickey1313

    You ignorant POS it is no a baby untill the day it can live on its own, untill thay day it is a cluster of cells in the moms body, her right to do with as she pleases. But you and your ilk would have docters shot for helping a woman with her CHOICE. Thiests make me sick

    December 10, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Ed Zachary

    When are they going to require teaching the history of the Picts from Scotland? As someone of Pictish history, I definitely feel left out.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      probably when they come back from the dead lol

      December 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  31. mickey

    Seriously? Hitler Youth? wow, that's a stretch. Teaching kids about gay/ transgenders people, is about learning about people that are valuable to society, that happen to be different from you.

    It would be really great if people in this country would open their eyes passed what they know, and what they are used to.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Jamieska

    Jackson Keats you are so right, Liberals are in fact demonic, they are disordered individuals. They are destroying this country. This new law is a JOKE.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Michele

    I want my kid to go to school to learn, starting with the basics. They can barely read and write as it is. Ask your kid how to figure out the tip on a restaurant check and watch the confusion follow in most cases. What does this bring to the table? More crap that they should be taught at home by their parents! Schools should perfect their teaching of the basics before they look for additional garbage to add to their already failing curriculum.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Just Another Guy

    Do people understand that kids will also learn about topics other than LBGT? Some of you are acting like science and math are totally being done away with and that all kids will learn is LBGT history lol.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave in DC

      But not spend enough time on them. That's the problem. This is a WASTE of valuable time.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Valerie Dreo

        I think that LGBT issues SHOULD be that in schools to stop the freakin BULLYING!!!! Just like the poor Black People got when we were so ignorant. Oh, guess I'm still ignorant African American. I just grew up in the wrong era.

        Now PLEASE get off my computer!!!

        April 3, 2012 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
    • todd

      some of them dont have the balls to say why theyre really threatened

      December 10, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Saturn7

      in case you haven't heard, our kids are sorely lacking in Math and Science today, what rock have you been under for the last 40 years?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey

      EXACTLY!!!!

      But these are the same people that don't think science is real. That climate change isn't man made, that evolution isn't real either.

      I doubt that many people on here that are bashing this have never even met a person from the LGBT community.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ricker

        ;D well that's not statistically likely, but they may have shoved them tighter into their closets.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Coastal elitist

    LGBT is a real aspect of the world, something children should learn about.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Transgender has NO PLACE in society. Mental Illness is a SERIOUS issue and these people deserve the proper treatment.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Dave in DC

    This is a total and complete waste of time. We've already educated almost a complete generation of people that can't understand the first thing about higher math or science. One of the biggest problems with the political debate today is that the layman can't even grasp how a basic budget works or what it means to live within ones "means". Yet they waste their time on the accomplishments of a small sector of society. Ridiculous.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Just Another Guy

    Obvious troll is obvious.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • tBAGr

      Hey, Trolls need love too.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  38. mslman71

    It's funny, when I submit a journal article or for that matter, when I look up papers in the scientific literature, $exual orientation, color, etc. are not part of the submission forms or search fields. Why? Because they aren't relevant. They have absolutely nothing to do with the substance of the contribution. If you have to have someone else make you feel good about things over which you have no control go see a counselor. If you want to make a contribution to history then exercise your free will and determination and do just that.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michele

      Perfectly put!

      December 10, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • leonid7

      So in history class, MLK's race had nothing to do with it? I think you are missing the point.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • maryritz

      Bravo!

      December 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • jmh

      I think you're missing the point. Did you even read the article? It has nothing to do with celebrating the accomplishments of people with differences, and a whole lot to do with teaching the fact that people are different and there are different ways of knowing.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • sharky

      Exactly!!!! I guess we basically just have to label everyone now in schools to ensure no one feels left out.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  39. manhandler

    Right! I guess ignore the contributions of gay people throughout history and hide the fact that they are/were gay. people such as Clay Aiken, "Ellen", Alexander the Great, Socrates, Francis Bacon, Oscar Wilde, Alice B. Toklas, Cole Porter, Leonard Bernstein, Herman Melville, Horatio Alger, Tchaikovsky, Noel Coward, Julius Ceasar, Melissa Etheridge, Rudolp Nuryev and on and on.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • While I am open minded...

      I think Julius Caesar is a bad example for the GL community>?? I mean he did sleep with his sister and I doubt anyone wants to encourage incest LOL My point is our history is SO INCOMPLETE as it is, if you are going to add things it should be more then one subject for sure!

      December 10, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey

      James Baldwin.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • badidea

      @ manhandler – I kind of disagree with you- after all, we all know who these people are and that they were gay (or bi) without this law, correct? Doesn't your post prove the law is unnecessary? Also, I'm kind of curious how Clay Aiken and Ellen ended up spearheading a list containing Alexander the Great and Socrates......

      December 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • badidea

        also, you left out Da Vinci.........unforgivable!

        December 10, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tex Gritter

      Alexander and Julius have a couple of other things in common: both their empires are no longer with us. If you want to see this country end in failure, just emmulate your "heroes"......

      December 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • badidea

        @Tex- wait....are you implying that the Roman Empire fell because its first ruler was gay!? You know we have quite a few years before we even come close to matching it in longevity, right? LOL

        December 10, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • sharky

      So I am curious what is more important, that they were/are gay or that they made such and such contributions to society? And Clay Aiken and Ellen? How are they historical figures? Sheesh.

      But really what is more important that they were gay, or what they accomplished or contributed to society?

      December 10, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marina Scott (school nurse)

      And don't forget Paul in the Bible...The thorn in his flesh without a doubt he was torn about his fleshly desires ( not with women) but with men. LIfe is Good and Full Circle.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Ron B

    As yes, Sodom..... that magic place where two "angels" snuck into town. That magic place where Lot told the townfolk... Hey it's ok to rape my virgin daughters"..... Next they "sneak out" ..... god rewards them by turning his wife into "salt"....... Now the two girls decide to get dad drunk and then they rape him....... Yep, these are certainly "morals" I'd want my kid to follow???????????

    December 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  41. joop9876

    I am an openly gay Catholic male. I attend church every sunday, and despite one or two people THE COMMUNITY LOVES ME FOR ME. I live in Canada though...I always thought the Americans tried being like the Canadians...oh well, to each his own!!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yep

      You, sir, are incorrect. Americans DO NOT want to be like Canadians. Aren't defeating the whole purpose of the article saying one "group" wants to be like another and not their own?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • joop9876

        We've had gay marriage legalized for 6 years nation-wide. I thought you guys were just trying to follow suit...either way...

        December 10, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • joop9876

        I shouldn't say gay marriage, more of an equal rights movement.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Saturn7

    you're 100% correct sir!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
  43. todd

    lmao. this is too good to be real

    December 10, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Pete

    I just love when self-righteous conservatives convinced their way is the only way are impotent to get their own way.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • 2tor

      I just love it when ignorant people repeat history lessons... unfortunately, you're dragging the rest down with you.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve-o

      @pete; just like the LGBT and public schools forcing this down our throats?

      December 10, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • superflatz

        Literally

        December 10, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
  45. mickey1313

    I have one thing to say to your filthy mouth "Judge not least ye be judged, and let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Mathew :7. You ignorant hypocrite

    December 10, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Coastal elitist

    The civil war was about slavery, there were other underling themes but the south wanted to continue owning people. Intelligent design is anything but intelligent. Schools are supposed to teach reason and logic not how to insert egotistical, unfounded "hypotheses" to assure students don't question the faith that their parents beat into their developing minds.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • tBAGr

      You're correct Costal.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Adam Gardner

    only if its a class on fiction

    December 10, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Tom

    Take the T out of LBGT and I think you'd have a much easier time with ACCEPTANCE. MUTILATING your body should be diagnosed as MENTAL Illness. LBG is totally fine...something your born with.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey1313

      I agree. I am for GLB rights, but when you put the psychosis of T in with it, that is compairing apples to rocks

      December 10, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey

      it's called solidarity, transgender people aren't that scary, the are just like you and me. it's there choice. I this what a nation of freedoms and liberty?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • 2tor

        without morals and values? Hope not.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tex Gritter

        They might be like YOU, honey but they AIN'T like ME!

        December 10, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      @Mickey: That's fine, that's your opinion. You can hang out with all the Transgenders. The bottom line is this curriculum does nothing to improve the Quality of Education. Time to get smarter not more sensitive and politically correct. Political Correctness does not = Educational Success - Just ask CHINA.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Anthony

    There's no sign of those "places" because they never existed - the bible is a lie. A book written 100+ years after the death of Jesus.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Adam Gardner

    Dude shut up

    December 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
  51. MaxQ

    Great post!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
  52. todd

    better politically correct than objectively incorrect

    December 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • d

      being politically correct is ruining this once great nation

      December 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Anthony

    They will teach kids to think critically about everything they come into contact with and not make false connections with no basis in reality, as you have. You should be glad that your publicly educated kids will be on a higher level of thinking than you've ever been able to obtain.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Latinnno

    Who needs schools, just deal drugs.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
  55. ThatMan

    Yeah, Dan.
    Or how 'bout, "Jerry Sandusky – A Love Story."

    December 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
  56. C-man

    Troll.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Anthony

    As a teacher, I love the fact that the photographer had to take a picture with a girl with her head down right in front of him. Classic!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Dan

    I guess they missed the South Park episode when everyone became gay.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
  59. David Bye

    Why doesn't the mandate include literature courses too?

    December 10, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • UhYeaOk

      Why should it?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • retlif

        Study those kids you can find your answer there

        December 10, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Steven

    Exactly, very well said.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  61. retlif

    Divorce should be recognized the same way. it's growing every decade and it's a great way for parents to mess with their kids most of the time with lifelong scars. How, sorry, this is still taboo and secondary. My bad.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey1313

      agreed, we need to make it much harder to both get married, and to get devorced. Devorce should only be granted if there is cheating, or abuse. If you "just grew apart" then, you shouldnt have goten married, and to split up is child abuse.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tex Gritter

        Amen and Amen!

        December 10, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Dan

    That will be a short class.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Adam Gardner

    While I agree with the sentiment and the idea behind this law, I think we already know several things that will happen when it comes into effect. First, very little will happen, because the school system is basically a failure when it comes to actually teaching students anything. Second, since they will be forced to add new segments to their curriculum, important things from history, or literature will have to be removed, the teachers already do not have nearly enough time to properly cover any subject in public schools, I would rather my child read Kafka in his lit class than discuss LGBT issues. Third, since it is practically impossible to know if a historical figure was LGBT before say the 1950's, that will mean that a larger stress will be put on more recent literary and historical events, leaving the students severely lacking, even more so than now, a general and intact world view. The fact is that these issues are specific, the school board is not simply talking about the accomplishments of LGBT individuals, they are stressing those individuals who act within the LGBT community, whose contributions involve that community and efforts to gain rights for it. Specific subjects such as this do not fit well into high school curriculum, since the point of high school is to get a large and general working knowledge of the world. Specific subjects such as the LGBT community should be left up to colleges, many of which have very extensive study possibilities regarding the LGBT community.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • ezg437

      First, not true about things prior to 1950's. The data is there as much as any other historical data (in terms of validity) but it has been intentionally left out. Pompei is a perfect example. And you saying that you think it's impossible is the exact reason for this inclusion in current studies: The truth has been buried. And, nobody is saying they are going to abolish any other studies...to even suggest that displays how simple minded and fearful many of you are. There would be only a portion of some class that already exists. Lastly, if how they do things now (math, science, etc.) is so great, why the hell are we in the mess we are in?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • While I am open minded...

        I think that was the point^^ Math and science, english, hell every subject arent being taught well on the basic level and they want to add more(no matter what subject they added).

        December 10, 2011 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam Gardner

      read BEFORE you respond. I did not suggest that they would do away with certain classes and replace them with others, actually the main body of my post was about how they will add this curriculum to classes which will then have to remove material to make room for it. Secondly, I also pointed out how ineffective our school system is in anyway, and I do not think we should just focus on math and science. Third, I have no idea what you meant by referencing Pompeii, do you mean the general? Pompey?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  64. ThatMan

    Wow, write much?

    December 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
  65. todd

    this isnt even an expenditure of tax payer dollars whatsoever. the hour public teachers work is pre-paid for, what goes into the plan is by and large up to the teacher. what stays out of it though, thats usually whats dictated. the so called values you want to teach your kids arent values, theyre vices.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      1) If you know anything about Curriculum Development you would know it costs $$$ to write, develop, produce and implement NEW Curriculum

      2) The Government has NO PLACE to tell PARENTS which values/morals are appropriate/correct to teach your kids. This is no a communist or socialist COUNTRY.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  66. MaxQ

    I bet they don't teach this waste in China and India. It's all Math and Sciences.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      as i know someone who teaches in china i can say this is false, thankfully too. those who dont learn history...doomed to repeat it

      December 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • MaxQ

        What history do we have with this stuff?

        December 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • todd

        take the class and find out i guess

        December 10, 2011 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Jarhead4Life

    As
    long as they are not taught religion or American History!?!?!?!?

    December 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Bob from IL

    BARF!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      Hey Bob,
      Go Blackhawks!!!

      December 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  69. cetine

    it would be amazing if this passes. maybe it will* help to sort out the mess of how my generation and ones before are so obsessed with hating, and introduce a way-of-life to younger adults so that they may not grow up with the same ignorance.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • mslman71

      Yeah, teach people to be proud of something they have no control over. That makes perfect sense. Actual personal accomplishment is secondary.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  70. cetine

    it would be amazing if this passes. maybe it help to sort out the mess of how my generation and ones before are so obsessed with hating, and introduce a way-of-life to younger adults so that they may not grow up with the same ignorance.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      Obviously, you didn't pass 'sentence structure' in your school, cetine.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Guido

    Totally.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
  72. todd

    heres the thing about education folks. it doesnt work if you have a closed mind

    December 10, 2011 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • NamCbtVet

      Good try, Todd. But I don't think you got through to you intended audience. They prove your point.

      December 10, 2011 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  73. thes33k3r

    Good for California! Religious nutjobs sit down.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      This legislation is the exact opposite of the religious right...and just as nutty.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • sharky

      Weird, you just basically failed the point of this law. So it is all right to be bigoted against religious people, but not against the LGBT community.

      Ah hypocrisy, it is so grand.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey

        fair enough point. but in this country the ones being oppressed aren't the religious right, they are the oppressor. anger against them is understandable.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • sharky

        mickey–

        The fair point to your comment is simply that religion is the majority in this country compared to the LGBT community. However, it does not mean that religious people are not being oppressed. Sure not in the same exact way, but with the constant of calling them nutjobs, or saying they are fanatics, of branding religion as a place for crazy people that need straight jackets and padded cells, of calling religious people lunatics. Yes most certainly fanatics exist and I personally would not want religion shoved down my throat, however there are indeed some actually very respectable, cordial, and all around wonderful religious people that get plagued due to the fanatics.

        Most certainly, for me, LGBT people have a place in society as well, but neither side is doing anyone any favors by both shoving their beliefs onto everyone else. LGBT are forcing people to accept them, Atheists are forcing people to accept them, and then in turn making people hate religious people who are then being made to feel like garbage, when they have contributed a heck of a lot to society and are extremely charitable.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • bwc2221

      Religious nut-jobs ... as opposed to left wing nut-jobs?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  74. todd

    gay/bi consenting adults is exactly equal to adults forcing themselves on unconsenting children. very nice :thumbs up:

    December 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  75. steve

    Horray for California. Taking steps that will eventually make the U.S. the socially progressive nation it needs to become.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • mslman71

      Why don't they just have a class on lifestyle choices then? One's contribution or impact to the course of events of mankind is all what should be discussed in history. If $exual orientation was a major contributor to that persons impact then fine, but otherwise it's as irrelevant as a the person's preferred meal. We're not progressive by teaching irrelevant details we progress by allowing people to live their lives as they see fit. Pandering to people over personal issues over which they have no control is just that. I would find it terribly insulting and transparent.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • legitmusTEST

        +1

        December 10, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey

        sorry, that's a false comparison. this is a group of people that has been marginalized, oppressed and abused. this law is trying to counter act that.

        the only people that have a problem with it are the ones that thing it's a "life choice" issue. Once you have the realization that these people were born this way, just like I was born a women, you'll have a deeper understand about how this law will help future generations.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kevin

        So, by your admission this is a social engineering exercise?

        You do realize that groups of people are not a collective conscience. I do not suffer because someone else who happened to have brown hair also suffered. Regardless, unless the $exual orientation was a component of their contribution then it was irrelevant. This is history class. If you want or need some sort of feel good about yourself class then teach that.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • sharky

      We are a socially progressive nation, however, because someone is gay or what have you does not make their contributions any more important. We might as well label everyone then.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey

        everyone is labeled. and we aren't a progressive nation, we are far from that........

        December 10, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • sharky

        (I don't know why CNN is preventing my comment when there is nothing wrong with it))

        How are we NOT a progressive nation? If we were such a non-progressive nation then why on earth would people want to come to the US?

        Do you even really know what Progressive really means?

        December 10, 2011 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Random

    To gay for my taste.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  77. fastball

    You know...kids have fewer hangups than their parents, most of the time. So why don't you all relax and let the kids become exposed to today's social issues in their own environment, and let them make up their own minds...rather than you people drilling YOUR values into them?

    December 10, 2011 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Random

      You obviously have no children...eh.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eh

        And you are obviously Canadian, eh.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      now That is a sensible comment.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chuck

        This is telling our kids that those who are victims of social scorn can now receive recognition for providing a lesser contribution to society.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • MineTonight

      In other words let the outside world take over in raising your children. You don't have any, do you?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Seth

        They're gonna learn about it somewhere. Would you prefer school or somewhere else?

        December 10, 2011 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hell raiser

      Seriously????? Not teach our OWN children, but allow society to do it? If we followed your advice we would all be doomed.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • PizzaWolf

      totally...and we shouldnt keep them from doing what they want. they should try heroin to see if thats for them too. we should send our kids to china...maybe they like living there better. so parents, sit back, relax..let your kid stick a fork in an outlet, its part of a horizon expanding socially progressive learning curve.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • PizzaWolf

        why is only my mindless comment posted and not the well thought out one?

        December 10, 2011 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • NoQuarter

      You're obviously not a parent. RESPONSIBLE parents don't let their children twist in the wind.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Tom

    Why so difficult to comment? Stop blocking comments CNN! Your comment board / moderator policy as of late is just getting ridiculous. Stop censoring content. My comments contain no vulgarity. Get over this censorship. Of course it's only censorship of social issues. You let commenters wreak havoc with anti-america comments so stop picking and choosing...be consistant!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • sharky

      A preschool or elementary school in Sweden has taken out gender pronouns all together. It is a gender-neutral school. I wish I was kidding.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
  79. The Flamingo Kid

    Can we ban Lazy Fat people from riding around in the electric wheelchairs at Wal * Mart?

    December 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  80. Uncle Sam

    Im glad that I dont live in California and hopefully I will never have to go there again. If I did live there, I would definately pull my children out of public schools and send them to private christian schools where people stand for things and wont tolerate alternative lifestyles which has no backbone or standing.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      Agreed Uncle Sam.
      This country's got enough problems – without being force-fed this gay nonsense on an almost daily basis.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Drew

        We do have enough problems already. Bigotry, intolerance and religious zealotry come to mind...

        December 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  81. chett

    what's the deal about cnn not posting my past comments, it wasnt offensive, especially compared to what others have put....talk about discrimination......i will prevail and California will teach of my achievements in school once a week for no less than 2 hrs per class!

    December 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      ya' think?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Random

      Because you name is cheat and it rhymes with....

      December 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Random

        chett

        December 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Ricardo Right

    I'm going to the store and I'm going to buy some ham. I don't care if the ham was gay or straight. I'm going to slow cook it.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
  83. SCIENCE!

    As an actual scientist (unlike, I'm going to assume, most people commenting on this article), I'd like to acknowledge that, hey, kids actually need to learn additional things other than simply 'Math and Science.'

    December 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vision***

      Thanks scientist...your very smart.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • mslman71

      I find it amusing that the auto-censor automatically kicks out words containing '$ex' on an article about $exual orientation issues.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey

      well said.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  84. killersense

    Homeschool your children for any hope of retaining moral values, common sense, or any independance what so ever.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vision***

      Just might have to....

      December 10, 2011 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Buddy

      Yep. As long as liberal freaks are in charge of education leftist indoctrination is all the kids get in public education.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Drew

        GOD DAMN that Leftist education value set of equal rights, treating people fairly, letting people live as they like, not forcing their own values on others....DAMN THEM, DAMN THEM TO HELL!!!!!

        December 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey

        yup, the world is passing you by!!! open your eyes before it's too late.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      homeschool your kids, fill them with old world prejudices and make them socially disfunctional. its the best christmas gift.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • joop9876

        lol

        December 10, 2011 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • fastball

      That would be YOUR moral values, and YOUR common sense – correct?
      And heaven knows, your kids sure don't have the capacity to make up their own minds about things, right?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Anthony

      Is it opposite day?? Your comment makes me believe so...

      December 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rex

      Political correctness is fascism with manners

      December 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan

      It is certainly heading that way.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • badidea

      I've yet to see a product of home schooling that wasn't more indoctrinated in a narrow world view than any public schooler......I'm sure they're out there, but I've never met one. From what I've seen of home schooling, the parents that do so are grossly underqualified, and were driven to home schooling because of religious bigotry and the dearth of knowledge that ALWAYS accompanies it. I'm sure there are exceptions, and no doubt anyone reading this post who chose to home school is a shining example of thoughtful home schooling. I mean all those other home schoolers, of course.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tex Mex

      Home schooling = child abuse.

      December 10, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Unbelievable

    This is going to make for the stortest classes on history... Why would any one other than a radical, pushing their agenda think that it matters about famous peoples private lives. Will the state require teaching on how to stay married by Kim Kardashian? Will we next be focusing history on great adulturers. This is a case study for moving your kids to private schools or home schooling your children.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • leonid7

      Your comment illustrates exactly why this kind of education is needed. To compare those things is insulting and ridiculously ignorant.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Random

        CHETT UP!

        December 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tian Ti

        One of the most dedicated and outstanding teacher in my school was a trans gender. She went on to win the beauty queen contest one year and the whole town cheered when our state minister was the first one to get up to dance with her. We kids learn how it is to be a big heart for fellow human beings.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  86. David

    I would like to know where all of the people complaining about how this undermines education were when Kansas added 'intelligent design' to their curriculum or when Texas took out many of the references to slavery in the description of the history of the Civil War.

    December 10, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • mslman71

      I happen to disagree with all of them, including "LGBT studies." Why would you assume that only one or the other of the sides would be taken? Sounds like your own personal prejudices coming through to me.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • SG

        I totally agree with your response to my post below. Accidentally hit 'report abuse' instead of 'reply.' So sorry. . . Maybe try reposting?

        December 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  87. SG

    Seems to me the state, once again, is seeking to interpose itself between parents and their children. This more resembles Soviet-style communism than a free society from whose members the state derives its only legitimacy. Neither we nor our children are 'subjects of the state' with which the Almighty Government may do as it pleases. If anyone wants to teach their children about LGBT rights, they are free to do so. But please don't mandate, with taxpayers' (i.e. MY) money , that all should subscribe to this leftist orthodoxy.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Let me guess. You want schools to subscribe, instead, to the rightwing othodoxy where it's necessary for children to pray in schools or else the world will fall apart.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • SG

        Funny how you so quickly jumped to that false assumption. No, I would prefer vouchers, where parents send their children where they see fit. Power to the people, not the state.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • mslman71

        Why don't you ask the poster instead of assuming? It makes you sound no more intelligent the worst of those whom you criticize.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • While I am open minded...

        Why is it when someone disagrees with this 'mandate' we arre automatically conservative, left wing etc? Our education system is so screwed up (guess thats what happens when its run by the government)

        December 10, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        "I would prefer vouchers, where parents send their children where they see fit. "

        Yes, spend more government money.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • SG

        Vouchers do not spend more government money. They simply allow parents, rather than the state educational bureaucracy, to determine how the dollars will be spent. Since it is taxpayer money anyway, I believe it more furthers the cause of freedom in our country to allow the people maximum decision making power in the use of funds that came from the people in the first place. Interesting line of discussion here.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Woops

      Last time I checked, it wasn't about rights, it was about history. A key but subtle difference. They are my tax dollars too, and I'm ok with it. Tax money isn't "YOUR" money, it's ours. That's what the referendums are for. If you don't like it, go vote for one to stop it. That's how a democracy works, not communism. This is no more communist than an ant is communist. You don't always get to do whatever you want in a democracy, you get a chance to have a fair say and vote. (granted we are a republic, but meh, close enough). You don't like it, take your kid to private school. Get a clue.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • SG

        Can't afford private school when I spend so much in taxes. As the state gets bigger, it just takes more from the people. Obviously, this is about social engineering, not history.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • SG

        And the issue of rights always arises when the state imposes any mandate on its citizens. That's why court cases have been fought over the rights of parents and students in the public school vs. the boundary of the state's authority over them. Free speech concerns, parental right to privacy concerns, etc. That's why I support vouchers. Then I can do what I want with my money. You can do what you want with yours. Seems fair to me. Good debate here. Thanks for your thoughts.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  88. EdNv

    So then they are going to tech about J Edgar Hoover, Larry Craig, and Ted Haggard (who had weekly calls with the Bush Whitehouse?)

    December 10, 2011 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  89. James

    Ok fine let's just redo some history books. (Get the word to Texas ASAP)

    December 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Steve

    Liberals rewriting history. Every group tries to do it, it is just their turn.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tommy Mack

      Liberals rewriting history by actually showing there was a history? Do you still think the sun revolves around the earth? Because it was a liberal idea at the time to correct that... and stereotypical dolts like you fought it by hiding behind the church.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey

        sweet jesus! love me some tommy mack!

        December 10, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  91. Bazoing

    Tolerance is a must. However, having taught in both a difficult inner city school and a dream-come-true school in California, I can that the teens and tweens are not only tolerant, but willing to defend gay students. AND yes it was a terrible problem 50 years ago when I was in school. Yes an occasional case turns up out of tens of thousands of schools. However, do we really have to classify ourselves as 'gay' or 'straight' and then have courses about the accomplishments of each grouping?

    December 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
  92. M Barrington

    California...the land of fruits and nuts.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • GAW

      Salted or unsalted?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      More idiotic gay CRAP – just what this country needs.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tommy Mack

      The Barrington Family: Proof of Mental Illness Among Americans

      December 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • mickey

      38 million people, three times the size of australia, as large in population as 21 other small states. we have progressive views, similar to the the rest of the developed world, we will find a way to drag this country with us kicking and screaming into this century whether you like it or not.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • badidea

        posts like this one of yours make me wish CNN had a 'like' button.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • badidea

      the land of fruits, nuts........and largest economic engine in the country. Don't forget.

      December 10, 2011 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Tom in San Diego

    I will take my child out of the public school system and into private. This is against everything I believe in..and if its mandatory in all schools..We will move out of the State of California where I was born...The gay lobby has gone too far....

    December 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • stephan

      Pray tell... What do you believe in? I can't wait to here about your fantasy world.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Slevine

    I'm a gay person and I'm here to tell you this school mandate is a horrible travesty.

    It is only the parents who should have final say in what their child is taught, period.

    I advocate for the ability of parents to take their kids out of a school which is failing their child.

    I am for vouchers and charter schools, and if you have kids, you should be, too. The money should go to your child, not to the school.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • stephan

      Really only the parents have a say? LOL, talk about creating an ignorant society.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      I am a gay person and I can tell you that I was NOT born this way. I have always chosen to be gay. How can anybody be born this way. I like girls, too. It's just I have always wanted to be gay, so I am. Don't teach it in schools, though. That is just weird.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tommy Mack

        You are a liar.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tommy Mack

      You are not gay... that's a common tactic by the right to try to make a point by lying in an effort to gain credibility, then spout the talking points given to you by Karl Rove.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • mickey

        amen.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        So according to you all gay people must think alike on every issue.

        December 10, 2011 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Confused

      I do not understand how you can make a blanket statement that *only* parents should have a say in what their child gets taught. FYI, most parents are not experts in every subject, and cannot possibly know everything that should be taught to their kids.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Random

        Then you must be Confused.....

        December 10, 2011 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • While I am open minded...

      THANK YOU SOMEONE WITH SOME SENSE ***It should be the parents choice!

      December 10, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Jon

    I really hope they don't make a class or month be about honoring gay people. That sounds almost as ignorant as their being a black history month. Left wing extremists need to stop trying to be tolerant by being racist.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tommy Mack

      And right wing extremists need to stop killing gay people and people with different skin color.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • manhandler

      Tcchikovsky was gay, Bernstein was gay. and many other giants in music and literature and theater were also gay. So we should just ignore the major accomplishments of these people. Get real.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  96. r

    This is why America is failing in Education. Instead of educating our children we are social engineering our children. Education should be about Reading Writing and Arithmetic not the Gay agenda.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      *claps. A very sensible comment.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        But why teach kids about math and english when no one can balance a check book, the county is in debt up to its eyeballs and Lady Gaga passes for high culture? Wait...good point.

        December 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vision***

      Thank you.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • bear0402

      You mean it wasn't like that already? I can still remember my grade school teacher talking about the bible in class. This has been a problem for quite awhile.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      *farts* if this was already happening why would it be in the news. It isn't an eithor or choice, South Korean kids aren't afraid to mention the names of gay people in their classes, why should we? You don't subtract the 3 seconds it takes to say the name of a Bi person from math time, like school is some kind of weird bookkeeping. Did none of your classes (particularly social studies) not ever run a couple minutes short. Ever?

      December 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • todd

        e^^

        December 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Vision***

        *Spray* your arguments SSSSSSTTTTTIIIIIIINNNKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!

        December 10, 2011 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • M Barrington

      AMEN

      December 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      California is trying to indoctrinate left wing views into our youth. Believe it or not you can be right wing and not racist or intolerant.

      December 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • manhandler

      Jusr exactly what is this "Gay Agenda?" Have searched all over and can't find it. Is it wanting to be treated with respect and with the same rights as everyone else? Is there a straight agenda? or maybe a black agenda?, and a Latino agenda? Or is it when people decide to stand up for their human rights, bigots like you want to immediately brand it with some negative interpretation?

      December 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Vision***

    I agree, our educational focus for our children has shifted in the wrong direction. It seems now that the battle has gone to them in the classroom, too brainwash them with all the political correctness as possible. Our focus should be on them being strong in core educational subjects. How is it ok to remove the morality of some from school and yet introduce the morality of others in the name LGBT? Again, our focus for our education is misplaced and this needs to STOP!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • todd

      you could use some thorough brainwashing to get rid of all the ignorant filth in there

      December 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Vision***

        Filth? How so?

        December 10, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Terminator

    The world needs to know about the contributions the gays make for society. I hope they focus some time on AIDS! AIDS was a great contribution and has been a boom for the pharmaceutical industry!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
  99. Colin

    The mere fact that evangelical Christians oppose this is enough for me to support it. Anybody who wants to base 21st Century education policy on the supposed wishes of a Bronze Age Middle Eastern sky-fairy is bound to be wrong!

    December 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  100. GAW

    Is America the great melting pot? I just wonder how much has melted.

    December 10, 2011 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      What you need to realize is that people who support LGBT do not have to like EVERYTHING about it. There are negatives just like any other 'type' of people. I have no issue with LGBT lifestyle and have many people in my life that , but I am honest enough and to say that I do not support everything about their lifestyle or their demands. For example: marriage. Personally, I believe that the problem is how the government treats married people. Government should treat ALL people the same regardless. Why give married people advantages like tax breaks...ridiculous. Once those advantages are gone nobody would care about WHO gets married. Everyone is focused on the symptom and the actual problem.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Oops!

      Thoroughly melted, but the ingredients taste like crap.

      December 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
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