By Stephanie Siek, CNN
(CNN) - One of Archie Comics' archetypal all-American teens is getting married – and it isn't to girl-next-door Betty Cooper or scheming sophisticate Veronica Lodge.
A year after introducing Riverdale’s first gay character, Kevin Keller, Archie Comics is showing his marriage to an African-American physical therapist named Clay Walker. The issue with their wedding, "Life with Archie #16," debuts at comic book stores January 4 and newsstands January 10.
It's part of a series that imagines the gang five or six years after graduation, with two alternate timelines - one in which Archie married Betty, another in which he married Veronica. Kevin's wedding appears as part of a story showing Archie and Betty's married life.
Kevin Keller is shown to have followed in his Army father's footsteps - in images released to CNN, readers learn that he served in the military and was injured while serving in Iraq. He meets Dr. Clay Walker while in a hospital’s rehabilitation unit.
Clay helps Kevin regain his ability to walk, and the two become friends. But it's not until a chance meeting in an airport that they start dating.
Archie Comics CEO Jonathan Goldwater said it's part of a concerted effort to make Archie's universe mirror the diversity and complexity that today's readers encounter in their lives. Archie's first comic book appearance was in 1941, and the core "gang" of Archie, Jughead, Betty and Veronica had, for the most part, changed only cosmetically.
"Riverdale, Archie and the gang are set in high school, and we ran a risk, unless we reflect what's going on with kids today in the real world, of becoming irrelevant," said Goldwater, the son of Archie creator John L. Goldwater.
Archie is far from the first comic book to introduce a gay character - gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender characters have played leading roles in superhero and alternative genres for two decades. The Comics Code Authority, an industry body, explicitly banned any mention of homosexuality in comics until 1989, although writers sometimes hinted at a character’s sexuality. LGBT readers often identified with superheroes’ double lives and feelings of being somehow different.
But Riverdale is still a pop culture symbol for all things wholesome, moderate and Midwestern, and Kevin Keller's success seem to indicate that readers think he fits right in.
Goldwater said the creation of Riverdale High's first gay student resulted in only seven canceled subscriptions, and "hundreds and hundreds" of new ones. Archie Comics sold out of Kevin's four-issue miniseries. Kevin is also getting his own title, published every other month, in February. Creator Dan Parent said dating will be a major part of his storyline - as it is in every Archie character’s narrative.
"And of course it won’t be as smooth as you think it will be, because it’s an Archie comic," Parent said. "The story really revolves more around Kevin preparing for the date, and the influence of the gang helping him in going on his date."
Part of the reason Kevin has proven so popular may be the fact that his sexuality is handled just like that of the heterosexual characters – as part of their storyline, not a gimmick.
"Sexuality is a trait that’s a facet of a character, but is not the single defining characteristic when the writer is doing a good job," said Bob Bretall, co-host of the Comic Book Page Podcast. "I applaud Archie for creating a character where being gay isn't a pejorative and showing that it's possible for the Riverdale characters to interact with Kevin as they would interact with any other person."
Matt Kane, the associate director of entertainment media at the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation , said he’s pleased with the way Kevin's life has been handled so far. He said it's important for teens to see a future in which loving relationships – be they same-sex or opposite-sex – can be recognized and celebrated.
"Riverdale is this picturesque vision of American life, and when you see yourself reflected in that, you have a role in even the most idealized version of the reality you live in," Kane said. "That’s the difference between feeling like a rejected outsider and feeling like you’re a part of something."
Archie comics have become one more venue for the GBLT agenda to destroy America.
Yeah, because all we care about is destroying the country that protects us, bringing down the government that provides us basic civil rights, and devolving into anarchy so that we can become worse that the worst third-world country known. Get a life. We just wan't equal rights and representation... I believe I've heard that one before... somewhere in school maybe...
Damn, I must have missed that meeting! Can you send me a copy of the agenda? Wanna make sure I'm doing my part for the cause!
I am lacking the Gay Agenda. But I have a FABULOUS Dayplanner.
Ah...the old Gay Agenda......
Perhaps they took a book from the Black Agenda, or the Female Agenda
Last Archie comic I will ever buy. The pushing for acceptance of this "lifestyle" by the press is an outrage. What abomination will be next? And shame on the public schools for pushing the gay agenda too.
Is it more of an outrage for a person to be truthful and honest, or to lie their way through every day life just to make YOU comfortable?
Dewster: I believe that this is being perceived as an abomination less and less. Other than with the Bible-Up-The-Rectum crowd
Have you ever bought an Archie comic before? Then you might have learned that this character has been in them for over a year now. Instead you only found out about him now. Have you heard that comics are no longer 10 cents?
You don't read Archie Comics. Who do you think you're fooling, gramps?
What abomination is next? Didn't you hear? In the Veronica timeline, Kevin Keller marries a wombat.
Awesome. A gay character in Riverdale would have been immensely helpful to me when I was a kid reading Archie Comics back in the 70s. Hopefully a good role model such as Kevin will help this next generation of gay–and straight– kids accept and understand themselves. Congratulations to Kevin on his big day!!!
Judgement Day is Coming whether you like it or not, believe it or not, care or not. Every man will have his heart judged and on that day if God does not see that your sins are covered by the Lord Jesus Christ then you will spend eternity in Hell.
What would Jesus do? Would he turn his back on gay people?
No, he would just throw a stone at them. LoL!
Interesting... So Judgement Day is coming... funny, I thought that I read in the bible that the apostles would all LIVE to see judgement day... so it must have been something like 2,000 years ago and we missed it.
@ Say What? Glad you brought this up. I was going to point the same thing out to you, and your hateful kind. God will also judge YOUR heart. You better watch out!
Judgement day is not coming, no matter how much you believe it. Perhaps you find comfort in a petty vindictive being because it reinforces your pettiness
I always thought that Betty and Veronica should just dump that soggy carrot top loser and go for each other!
I always had the hots for Veronica. You just know she's a dirty girl.
Oh yeah....Veronica and Betty in a hot tub. Their undulating mammaries and taut bodies glistening under a bright moonlight
They are trying to hard and its obvious.
i agree. this seems a bit over the top
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[You're not trying hard enough].
Today's Democrat party: The party of gays, lesbians, illegal aliens, abortionists and drug users.
Really, Holly? I am a conservative and smoke pot. Lots of conservative people I know use drugs. In fact, I perhaps know of a handful of people that don't use SOME kind of drug
You're a liar.
You're a closet Dem and it's time to come out! Maybe Bill and Hillary could help you?
Are you sure it's not crack your smoking?
Eric: Good comeback. Take a while to come up with that gem?
Dewster: Brilliant! See the above
Divemaster: yep, I am sure
Better than the alternative, trust me.
Also known as the party of protecting civil liberties.
As in the current president signing a bill that could lead to American citizens being indefinitely detained, continuing foreign wars of aggression that he swore he get us out of, selling fully automatic weapons to illegal aliens that have already been used to kill American citizens, once again supporting George Bush's Patriot Act that he promised to dissolve, etc... Doesn't anyone on this board read anything besides CNN?
And no republican ever got an abortion. Or used an illegal drug. It's a fact. You can look it up.
Today's Republican party: the party of bigots and special-needs adults.
and war, war ,war, war, war. Oh yeah, and oil. Can't have a good war without oil.
I KNEW that I liked Democrats for a reason - LOL!
"Democrat Party". Oh lord. Still listening to drug addict Rush Limbaugh, are we? You must be 50+ years old. The far Right still doesn't understand why the majority of Americans are so repulsed by their ideology. Oh well. They'll either progress with the rest of us and the Western world, or continue into complete irrelevancy.
I heard the good Dr. has a drinking problem.
I'm sure the bean counters carefully calculated the estimated increase in sales from pro-gay marriage comic book readers and the estimated losses from anti-gay marriage comic book readers. The artists who draw the characters might not be all about money and nothing more than that, but the people who employ the artists and distribute the product almost certainly are.
Yeah, because the artists (and writers, whom you seem to have forgotten, and are the ones most likely responsible for this) hate to make money too. They'd much rather create a book that no one reads and is in danger of getting canceled.
When is the last time you picked up an Archie comic? Thought so. I'd say the sales of this comic have been dismal since the 70's. No idea how it kept going. The thought process is, cater to a small but rabid group and they'll at least get them on board for subscriptions until they go down the hole. This is the death knell for Archie comics.
Back when Archie Comics focused on old-fashioned values and solid storytelling (as recently as the late nineties, in fact) they were very successful. Archie Comics ere the ONLY comics on the checkout racks at Wal-Mart and other retailers. All other comics were relegated to obscure comics shops, but not Archie. They were still mainstream, and they sold a hundred thousand copies a month. Impressive numbers.
Now that they've decided to go for sensationalism over storytelling, their customer base has collapsed. It's not just this storyline, either. They've also done edgy, "realistic" versions of the characters, and other publicity stunts. It's all added up to driving their niche audience away, even as they fail to attract a new audience that will stick with them over the long haul.
Basically, Archie Comics are committing suicide.
Is "Major" for real? I almost fell off my seat laughing.
What's next....beastality???
sorry.....bestiality!!!
What a man and a sheep get up to in the privacy of their own pasture is their business.
Rick.....that's just nasty.
I'm assuming that you are a high school drop-out, live in a square state, and love Nascar.
u jelly of nascar cause u cant tell left from right
Wow, way to generalize, bigot. Bravo.
Betty and Vernoica caught scissoring in a closet at the reception
Reading all this was a big waste of my time, but your comment made me laugh...thanks. lol
Scissor me timbers!
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Mattthew 19:4-5 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Rom 1:24-27 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
For those of us who got over it and learned not to fear the Christian God, because he doesn't exist, threats from a book of fiction are meaningless. Come and join us here in the 21st Century. The water's fine.
Prove that he doesn't exist. And before you tell me to prove he does, please consider the fact that I haven't claimed such a thing.
Jump on in? dont worry you'll be tossed in one day and I doubt that youll think it is fine then.
Add 80 years to your life...........where will you be ?
You'll regret saying that when your time is nigh...........
If you found a watch on the ground you would assume someone made it
Is this from the same book of nonsense that tells us about old men laying with wives of brothers and sisters and begatting several hundred children?
Add 80 years to your life........where will you be Stephen?
Hey, that guy lived for 900 years so he could have had 100's of kids. Wasn't his wife turned to stone? Or was he the guy that built a boat big enough to house all the animals in the world? Or was he one of the guys that knocked down the city walls with a trumpet? Whatever, but it all really happened – that is the point – so 2-dimensional gay people getting married is a bad thing, ok?
Lets not forget the man in the whale, talking snakes and women popping off a mans ribs...
Ya, And lets not forget the fish that grew legs and lungs and started walking on dry land. And the lightning hitting a mud puddle that magically created the first single celled organism from nothing. Or the universe that somehow sprang in to existance with no creator and gave birth to living beings that soiught out happiness and love etc etc.
I think I'm getting the hang of this game.
Sooner or later you people will have to realize that it doesn't matter how you believe we came to be here. All possibilities are unbelievable and "magical". Most people believe in evolution and atheism because they are ASLEEP and unable to comprehend the reality of the question in the first place. It's not because they're enlightened. Exactly the opposite.
For the most part evolution's only purpose is to push the questions of our existance as far out of our grasp as possible by injecting billlions and trillions of years between man and our origins like some sort of morphine drip for the senses.
Think about the reality as you see it. Not as Richard Dawkins or the Pope see it.
According to a literal interpretation of the Bible you can also sell you daughter into slavery:
"Exodus 21:7-11 And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money."
And, sorry Tim Tebow, everybody who works on the Sabath should be put to death...
Exodus 35:1-3 Moses assembled the whole Israelite community and said to them, "These are the things the LORD has commanded you to do: For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day."
Isn't it interesting that people who advocate a strict reading of the bible seem to know so little about it...
CraigDuster, for clarity, the Sabbath or Shabbat is on Saturday. Football games are typically on Sunday. The Shabbat started as a Jewish custom in the Old Testament. It is observed from sunset Friday until sunset Saturday and that translation is according to the Gregorian calendar. Western culture celebrate the sabbath erroneously on Sunday because of original Catholic traditions. The Vatican even admitted this ere but because of tradition, many people still attend church services on Sunday. Godspeed!
Aha! And that is why they don't pay college football players! Because then they would have to kill them all for "working".
@CraigDuster
Yup, Tebow is safe due to the Sabbath technically being on Saturday. However (assuming you are Christian), are you planning on going around and advocating that people working on Saturdays should be put to death? Heck, maybe you should try and carry out god's will on your own (if you want to be a good christian). I know it will be a lot of work (with stores, restaurants, hospitals, etc being open on Saturdays), but you want to be a good christian right? Or do you believe it's alright to cherry-pick from your "holy" book and only do the things that are easy for you.
I don't know who replied regarding the technical time of the sabath using my name, but maybe you could take credit for your own comments and not assign my name to them. I don't care if the sabbath starts at Thursday at 1:15 and last for 14 hours, the point is the same. A literal intrepretation of the Bible is an excuse for people not to have to think on their own.
And lets not forget the fish that grew legs and lungs and started walking on dry land. And the lightning hitting a mud puddle that magically created the first single celled organism from nothing. Or the universe that somehow sprang in to existance with no creator and gave birth to living beings that soiught out happiness and love etc etc.
I think I'm getting the hang of this game.
Sooner or later you people will have to realize that it doesn't matter how you believe we came to be here. All possibilities are unbelievable and "magical". Most people believe in evolution and atheism because they are ASLEEP and unable to comprehend the reality of the question in the first place. It's not because they're enlightened. Exactly the opposite. For the most part evolution's only purpose is to push the questions of our existance as far out of our grasp as possible by injecting billlions and trillions of years between man and our origins like some sort of morphine drip for the senses.
And don't forget these most religiously tolerant of verses from Deuteronomy 13:12 – 13:16:
"12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt"
So, if you really believe everything in the Bible, you'd better get to putting people to the sword and burning their towns because I hear there are a lot of non-Christians out there.
Look up the word context and you just might learn something?
Say What?: Perhaps you will learn that a question mark does not belong at the end of a declarative statement
Perhaps "lie" in the case of the Leviticus passages meant "to tell an untruth". This would equate these passages to the modern day maxim "bros before hoes"/
You are correct. We will all stand before our maker and answer for the lifestyles we lived.
This is particularly relevant to Archie Comics because these characters are famously known for starring in Christian comics in the seventies and eighties in a joint venture between Archie and Spire Archies have been Christian friendly for a long time.
Rock on Archie! It's high time that my gay and lesbian brothers and sisters were portrayed fairly in the media. We are who God made us to be and shouldn't be ashamed.
Ummm you do know that this is a COMIC BOOK don't you?
Rock on Archie and friends! It's high time that the LGBTQ community was illustrated fairly in modern media, especially a classic like Archie 🙂 As a gay, evangelical Christian, I see nothing incompatible between my faith and how God made me and my brothers and sisters in the community. We are who what God made us!
that's funny.
There is no such thing as a "gay-evangelical-christian" Dope
Jackmihoff, ummm many would like to believe that they don't exist but there are a lot of openly gay clergymen and women. *tear*
Ok Christopher. I will accept that you could be a Christian and actively witnessing to others about the saving grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, however, you are still following a path of sin with your old self based purely on your s_xual actions compared to the standard of the Bible that you profess to believe in. You could even be indwell'd with the Holy Spirit of the Lord and should be facing one heck of a spiritual battle with your flesh.
Enough with the gays already, CNN. If you're going to give this freakish lifestyle choice so much attention you might as well give every freakish lifestyle choice this much attention as well.
this is just plain wrong...
... and the brain-washing continues.
@Eric – Yup, religion is still around, so there is plenty of brainwashing going on.
Now, will there be fisting or a 3 way with Reggie involved in the honeymoon?
And Jug Head gets to hold the camera and Moose does the sound.
Miss. Grundy will fluff.
Might as well. It seems anything goes today.
Archie as the fluffer.
Great job Archie.
Is anyone else having trouble posting?
Who cares. Give us a break CNN
huh so many jokes come to mind reading this article i know its wrong to think but they met at a airport frist thought was of that congressmen. Also im always surpise to see that this comic is still around good for them to some how keeping it fresh for more than 60 years. Also on a more serious note what with all the hate in the posts tonight but for and agansy gay people very little talk on the comic
its redneck night at the ol internet cafe.
nope just stating that it a funny place to meet and since i don't read Archie just wondering if there was an intended satircal comment in that they met at the airport. Also no need to go to an internet cafe we have lovely service down here. btw is it pr ick night up where you are?
I think I'm going to vomit...
awww poor baby.
i did not realize that you were forced to read this article or archies for that matter?
Oh yes we're all forced to read it you just didn't know it. I bet the originator of the strip is rolling in his grave considering he was a born again Christian.
Judging from the ad hominem attacks of the pro-gays here, I would say you are the ones who hate and are intolerant and guilty of the liars paradox. My question is when will Archie comics really get with it and advocate consensual pedophilia and bestiality? How about a polyamorous marriage between Archie and the whole gang? For this is all the terminus of the relativists creed.
If there a problem so that you have trouble staying on topic? This is about gays. Did you read the story yet?
like the pope said, there is no crime in hating iniquity. and pointing out the flawed arguments and bigotry of religious zealots in not paradoxical. gays are just saying leave them to enjoy their lives and you enjoy yours. in regards to the comics, why is it that conservatives are prepared to allow the free market system to operate in every arena, so long as it does not run afoul their dogma. if a gay comic is so contrary to american values, noone will buy it and it will vanish, or could it be that you are just afraid that the public, by in large, is ready to embrace this?
"Is" not "If"
i think this discussion is funny – but sad. yea – why not advocate three men and a woman or donkey or whatever getting married. where does it stop? are there any rules? we've become a society that believes we write our own rules for morality. and, the result is a world with no boundaries, no rules, no moral compass. sadly, we can look back through time and see the demise of family, the loss of values for all things good and yes, for all things with meaning. Marriage is targeted – not for better or worse, but to destroy the value of marriage between a man and woman. We are a sad nation of people confused, lost and troubled. My children will live in a world where anything is accepted – and they will be confused because there no values to hold on to. I can't keep them locked in – and can only try to point them in the right direction – and yes, for me and my house – we will serve the Lord!
Maybe they will all get together on an island somewhere and AIDS theirselves out of existance.
I dont understand the Gay movement...First theyre only less than 4% of the population...Its wrong if your religious or if you dont believe, but you know science (biology) its wrong...yet you see them taking over. People see it all the time on TV when it isnt as prevalent as people think...Organizations like GLAAD censor TV shows and comedians etc. they compare their problems to the Civil Rights Movement when things arent as near as bad for them as it was for Blacks in the 20th century (Segregation, Fire Hoses, Dogs, Legal Beatings, Being denied Jobs, Government humiliation). Those people went through alot more than any Gay person goes through today. They try to force their agenda on you by calling you a bigot if you dont fully support them. Well I just wonder whats next. Their arguments are "You cant stop Love" and "You cant stop progress" Well there is something called progress in the wrong direction (Example: Congress 🙂 ) Well if its just love what about incest or pedophilia or bestiality? How long will it be before those are promoted with the same argument. No one can stop you from being Gay, but please dont force your Agenda on me and my generation (only 16) and be gay like people have for thousands of years.
"Well if its just love what about incest or pedophilia or bestiality? "
Trying to change subjects fools no one but youself.
Try to stay on topic if possible.
and on what authority do you speak? have you had experience as a gay and miinoirty? none picks neither by choice. and while gays may not experience the same problems of blks in the 1950s, it is still appalling that in a modern and enlightened society there are people so feeble minded as to cling to religious dogma in the face of common sense to insist that being gay is a choice or unnatural when gays have been around making contributions all through history.
Lets not confuse the gay movement with a dying comic franchise that has seized upon an opportunity to save itself. That said I do applaud them. Paul, you are only sixteen. You have alot to learn. In the mean time, act your age and go back to your xbox.
Paul are you kidding!!! "Organizations like GLAAD censor TV shows and comedians etc. they compare their problems to the Civil Rights Movement when things arent as near as bad for them as it was for Blacks in the 20th century (Segregation, Fire Hoses, Dogs, Legal Beatings, Being denied Jobs, Government humiliation). "
I'm not black, gay or even American, but just a couple of things off the top of my head, Stonewall, don't ask don't tell, Matthew Shepard etc. It is equally bad for any minority
Im black and I find racist jokes hilarious...why cant Gays take a joke?
further to my post before, equally bad for any minority that has mindless, biased, uninformed and ignorant attacks on it from uneducated morons
Learning to laugh at yourself makes you a better person...Lets not resort to name calling unless you include a racial stereotype #winning
I laugh more at people who follow mindless dogma in the name of an archaic belief system. What is truly pitiful though is those who would seek to inhibit someone else life, when that life has absolutely no effect on their own, and breaks no laws
I apologize for having morals...silly me ....morals are outdated archaic dogma. (Sarcasm) It affects people I care about...Im proud to say IM A CHRISTIAN (atheists will probably slam me or whatever, I dont care) I dont want my kids to grow up thinking this is right. Thats who it affects.
how exactly does it affect your day to day life? Or your children's? And are you accusing me of having no morals simply because I support everybody having the right to live their life without prejudice or bigotry being leveled against them. I believe that most people calling themselves christian don't actually display the true definition of a christian society in their charcters
Paul: Morals and religious belief are not synonymous
WELL SAID, Paul. Stick to your beliefs even in this upside-down world we live in.
Stick to your beliefs, but don't impose them on others. Certainly not with discriminatory laws that say certain people can't have the same rights as you.
@Paul – a couple of thoughts as I read some of your comments, in no particular order.
1. Why does it have to be an either/or or better/worse situation when you compare what some gays have to go through in life with what blacks have? Couldn't we just say that both groups have suffered oppression, violence and general misery?
2. What, exactly, do you interpret as their 'agenda,' other than to be accepted by the mainstream?
3. What difference does it make in your life what gay couples choose to do?
4. I agree with you that sometimes racist jokes can be funny. Trading Places is a perfect example of a genius film that is also thoroughly racist. But there is a difference between a biting joke and a derogatory slur, depending on the speaker's intent. And the latter just isn't funny, but rather sad.
5. Depending on where you live, you might want to try living in a new, major metropolitan environment sometime in the near future. Who knows? Maybe living in a different environment might make you see things differently. I'd personally recommend San Francisco, LA or New York, but there are definitely other areas too...
You wrote "things aren't as near bad for them? A very young gay boy was shot to death by another student- Mathew Shepard was tortured and then couldn't even be buried in peace – society doesn't "recognize" (gay) marriage – people live their lives in fear of being ostracized – people are beaten or shot to death for being gay- gays are constantly discriminated against....and yet you think you are an authority on gay people after reading an article about a gay marriage in a comic? Read the bible. You're going to be surprised at what's REALLY in it and not what people make up about what's in it.
Paul, just want to encourage you in your faith. Being 16, you are probably just finding out that you will never win an argument in a comment thread like this. Don't let that discourage you from following Christ. The thing to remember is that we are all sinners in need of grace. It's actually true that we are all "born that way," in the sense that we are all born into sin and therefore each of us (in different ways) desires things outside of God's design for us. If we give ourselves over to those desires, that's when the trouble comes: James 1:15 "After desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin, and sin, when full grown, gives birth to death." So God indeed does grant us free will to choose our own way. Our duty as Christians is simply to speak the truth in love as it says in Ephesians, and to keep reminding those who are confused by the tide of popular opinion in this generation of the verse in Psalm 14:12 "There is a way that seems right to a man,but in the end it leads to death." The best we can do is tell that truth in love and not pick fights. As Jesus said, "For him who has ears, let him hear." Some don't care to hear, and that's okay – it's their free will to do as they want. God bless you, Paul. Keep the faith, my friend.
zadius,
Any comment about the much greater number of Christians who commit adultery by remarrying than the total number of gays? Why don't we hear about them from Christians but always hear about gays?
Like I wrote earlier...let them all have an island somewhere and AIDS theirselves out of existance.
Carl: Better yet, save that island for bigots. Book a flight now
I'm part of your generation (only 17 myself) and I'm proud to be LGBT. Just because I belong to that 4% of the population does not give people the right to discriminate against me.
You brought up pedophilia. Let me explain the difference to you: a normal relationship, regardless of orientation, takes place between two consenting adults. Pedophilia is an adult taking advantage of a child, who is unable to consent, and has the capacity to scar for life. Pedophiles use deception, "grooming," etc. to act out their sick fantasies. If you think that normal relationships and pedophilia are similar, it looks like you need to have a nice, long talk with your psychiatrist.
You're black and belong to a minority group that has been at the brunt end of centuries of discrimination, and then you go around and discriminate against gays. You of all people should know how awful it is to be hated for having traits you have no control over.
And no, you're not a Christian. You're a bigot masquerading as one.
Mion, you can be proud all you want, and you can get plenty of support from a decaying society telling you that you are just fine and dandy. But you've got a debility; nothing is going to change the nature of that. You're still worthy as a human being, and can make good contributions to the world, but don't say you're proud of being gay. Being gay is something that has to be dealt with, not celebrated. You KNOW deep down that it is. It makes life hard. It makes life lonely. It makes relationships unstable. Don't get into the scene. Don't get wrapped up into gay culture. Even if you are young, you should be able to tell where that leads. Don't let that part of yourself define who you are. You are so much more.
David: "Being gay is something that has to be dealt with, not celebrated."
Wow. You are the lowest of the low. This is typical BS from the relidiots that cant see past what was hammered into thier heads since birth and figure they should hammer it into everyone else's head too. You managed to figure out that Santa, the easter bunny and the tooth fairy were just stories you were being told but the whole bible thing just never quite set in... Your statement is clearly one made by a truly pathetic and small minded individual. If people like you are what "heaven" is made up of I will be happy taking my atheist self to hell.
I love how the people with the loudest voice are the ones with the lowest numbers and the weakest arguments. Athiests, if you want a truly secular society all 2% of you move to France theyd love to have you. And if you really want to recognition of your marriage there is a place called Quebec that would be ecstatic to have you. Dont be the bad apples that spoil the bunch. Let the hatred and name calling for people with different opinions from the Gays commence
Paul: So basically what you are saying is gays don't get bullied, threatened, harassed or discriminated against. And that because they want to have equal rights to everyone else within the law, it's violating YOUR morals. And then you go on some long winded argument that it basically "If gays can get married what is next? Pedophilia, beastiality, etc.". A couple of points:
1) Being gay is not illegal. Beastiality and pedophilia is. So you don't have to worry about legal marriage with animals or Man on boy action for a long time yet.
2) Gays are constantly harassed, discriminated against, physically assaulted, and all of the above on a DAILY basis around this country. I've personally been asked (politely) to leave a premises, and when I asked why was flat out told "Because you are gay, and we don't serve qu**rs here." I've been beaten, harassed, and have feared for my life because of discrimination.
3) We aren't asking for legalized marriage. I could go and marry a man tomorrow anywhere in this country if I wanted to. What we are demanding is the same recognition within LAW in our marriages, the same benefits LEGALLY as a man-woman union. We aren't asking for everyone to change the law, we are asking to be INCLUDED in it.
4) None of these action, in any way, will affect your life except maybe seeing two guys or gals together openly. But you see that every day now anyways. This will not affect your taxes because after all, according to you, we are only 4% of the population (BTW, you might want to recheck your facts). This will not in any way cheapen your marriage when you do get married. This will in no way cause you any additional hardship or pain. As a matter of fact, this will not affect your ability to live your life as you see fit.
Basically we are asking for what any reasonable person, who lives within the law, would ask for. The same rights and privileges as everyone else. We haven't committed a crime. Why are we denied our rights as if we have?
sendi,
If you REALLY care about sin, why not trash all the Christian adulterers? There are a LOT MORE of them.
I think as soon as a pride movement arises for adulterers and you have a group of people demanding equal rights and respect for adulterers, that's when you'll see them getting trashed, I would hope.
Going down the thread, I see you've posted at least twice about "Christian adulterers".
The only Christians (that I know of) that cannot remarry are the Catholics, aka the original Christians. The Protestants and all others separated from the originals (hence the denomination "Protestant", of course).
One of the perks of not being an original is being able to remarry.
Are you talking about non-Catholics? Are you talking about Catholics that commit adultery? Are you talking about all Christians? What's your point? Christians are as sinful as anyone else. The important point is who regrets it and who doesn't.
Totally disgusting...A small minority in this country is trying to pass off that their lifestyle is normal and people are suppose to welcome it with open arms. I don't care what Bob and Bill do in the privacy of their own home but to have it published in a comic book for kids is beneath contempt....This country has lost its direction
So Archie comics is showing what is going on in the bedroom? If not, why are you so concerned?
Get serious.
is your life do dull that you have nothing better to do than to whine about this?
So I take it as long as Bill and Bob get married in their own home, then you support gay marriage?
Yes, because freedom of lifestyle is not American.
No doubt the American Family Association, Florida Family Association, Family Research Council, and all other hate groups are going to start threatening to boycott stores that sell Archie Comics unless they pull this issue from the shelves. It happened with that All-American Muslim show, it could very well happen again.
Let them do it. Attack a comic book because it's too gay. That will point out (again) how trivial and silly their "pro-marriage" stance is. The anti-gay agenda is a HUGE economic scheme. They take in millions of dollars for a few well paid spokespeople to convince you that YOU are being harmed by someone else's "lifestyle" or relationship, and that those weird other people are trying to get what you have. Unfortunately, there are many gullible people who buy into it. Some will refuse to buy the comic, but I'm betting they never bought one anyway.
Honestly, you had to be pretty gay to begin with to read Archie Comics even back in the day.
(raises one arm and waves overhead in circular motion, use other hand to to mouth like speaker phone{like Mordecai and Rigby})
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
They are all over TV and now comics. I'm glad my sons ages 13 & 10 still understand it's wrong for a sliver of perverts to dictate their agenda to the masses. We even play spot the fudge packer as we drive to our errands.
This is despite living in the state of catering to these perverts The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia , we voted twice against you Nancy's getting married in our state. Ha ha ha !
lol you sound like such an idiot, h of tave you ever been out of the trailer park?
Hate to disappoint you Mary, we live on the sand at the beach. Best part of Kalifornia. And to the other poster quit drinking the Kool -Aid you Nancy boys are still mocked by the masses but now we cannot say it because you hide under "hate crime" laws. None of you are man enough to defend yourselves so you need a law to force people to accept you.
lol so you are that pitiful that you need validation by picking on a group of people you have characterized as being "weak". that is just said and pitiful. not only are you an illiterate puerile, but you are a coward.
There are no hate crime laws that restrict your freedom to speak.
@HH88: "None of you are man enough to defend yourselves so you need a law to force people to accept you."
Bet you're pretty upset all those black people got the law to respect them, too. And what about all those female voters? They weren't man enough either, were they?
You said you live on the California coast. I suggest you take a long walk west.
Bigotry is dying. Accept it. When you admit that heteros engage in perversions too, you will have much more honesty in statements.
So, as long as Newt Gingrich is cheating with another woman, it's not perverse...
You need a license to own a gun, to drive, even to fish. Sadly no license is required to be a parent. You should be ashamed of the hate and bigotry you are teaching to your children. Still, I suppose we will still need people to laugh at in the future, and your kids should fit the bill nicely.
..I think he's a secret queen myself..
The most hilarious thing about bigots like you...one or more of your kids end up being gay! LOL! Enjoy eating that humble pie!
Wow. What a great dad. You are raising gay bashers and you are proud of it. I feel sorry for your kids. If one of them is gay, I just hope he finds acceptance somewhere. One day your kids will be on here posting stories about their hateful ignorant dad.
HH88...a proud aryan, are ya?
What we hear now days about gays and gay weddings! never heard such thing in human history nor at any religion how can one allow such thing since it is against human neutral and God's well?! no such messenger came from God and allowed gays
Pick and choose what you want from the Bible. Everyone does. Christian adulterers are a MUCH LARGER problem, but let's ignor them along with the Golden Rule.
Didn't God send Jesus to teach tolerance and love? Guess you missed that part of the story. Signed, Atheist.
Just remember it was Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve.
Just remember there is no god.
Ig no rant.
Sendi: Our government is secular and not beholding to your comic book
Dang, I was hoping for Veronica and Betty AT LAST!
Give me a f'n break!
The gays are indeed taking over. One good thing about this story hardly anyone buys comicbooks anymore.
At least someone accepts the fact that we are taking over.
Get used to it.
Education is destroying bigotry. The future is obvious. Equal rights for gays is coming.
Didn't even bother to read the article. Just clicked the link to watch evangelicals freak out 🙂
Like any of the conservatards claiming they buy Archie comics really buy them. Liars, the lot of them.
What is WRONG with you straight people? How warped are your minds that you IMMEDIATELY think about marrying a goat, a dog, a horse, or your own sister? Judging by these posts, it isn't gay people who are sick, it's the heteros!!
Goats, dog,s and sisters? You are the only one talking about these things so stop unless you get your facts STRAIGHT!
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finman1960,
Andrew is right. As soon as gays are mentioned, the hypocrites start talking about beast-iality, incest, polygamy, etc.
Just read other comments here and they show he is right. YOU need to get your facts straight.
lol I'm glad I stopped reading this 10 years ago. Archie plays off traditional America, what a joke
whoa, this is beyond offensive. I was paralyzed in the same condition and Im no fluffer, yet this cartoon is trying to depict people like me with a disability as being gay?
Yeah, that is exactly what it depicts genius. Were you paralyzed in your brain too?
I must be modern. I'm so used to reading about gay celebs getting married, this doesn't raise my eyebrows.
I say get really nuts on the plots,.i.e., Betty has a young kid (now grown) accusing her of molestation and she ...
The bankers make money shamelessly, candidates lies without shame, CNN's main page shows two lesbians kissing, and this article. We have lost all shame. If I were to send CNN a picture of my sh**ting will they publish it?
The CNN main page has over 100 stories from all areas.
Did you have any point?
They would. But under the "equal time" provisions of the FCC, they would have to post a picture of your enemy doing that too, in order to mark his territory.
I don't see any reason why not, Mikey, they already publish your verbal diarrhea
The ARCHIE COMICS "alternative universe" series with the Archie-Betty-Veronica triad, and Jughead had to share a jail cell with big Moose and hung himself, that was it for me. I haven't read them in awhile.
Congrats go out to Archie Comics and CNN for reporting on this. The world is changing and these OLD folks...mostly republicans....just can't seem to adjust to that fact.
this is a special interest group, it is only 2% of our population.
Just remember it was Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve.
Steve was there too, hiding behind the fig tree... In fact, in the Queen James version, Adam left with him...
Louis, quoiting from your little book of fairy tails wont change the fact that things are changing in this world. And the fact that you dug up that old bigoted "Adam and Steve" line is simply pathetic. Go back to the 1950s where you belong.
And then Cain and Abel had children with their mother... so... what's your point? You must be pro-incest, right?
Louis,
Adam and Eve? Oh, you mean God created Adam and then Eve was just created from Adam.
Steve might have been the person who started Nod, the parallel civilization to Eden.
I couldn't believe the headline and all I can think of is no way!!
so if two consinting adults, say brother and sister, want to get married ti should be fine right? they are consinting adults, and they love each other.
what a wonderful straw man. the historical reason interfamial marriages have been prohibited is the risk of birth defects. gays who cannot even reproduce are clearly not in that category.
so they choose not to have kids, is it your right to tell them they cannot get married?
There are LAWS against that. There are genetic reasons against it.Wow! Bright.
i thought it only mattered if they loved each other, double standard.
pogojo,
The topic is h0mose-xuality, not incest. TRY to stay on subject. Trying to change the subject isn't fooling anyone apparently but you.
so you feel that incest is wrong, it is perverted, ..... well that is how most straight people feel about gays, now you know where those who oppose this are comming from.
pogojo,
Do heteros do anything perverted? Do you have a point?
Actually, I wouldn't care, especially if they were sterilized. If they were family members I would be disgusted with them, and probably wouldn't talk to them anymore, but I would still leave it as their choice.
actually alot of past cultures had royalty who married brother/sister. Also note that the modern gene pool has become so diverse thaty brother and Sister could probably marry and reproduce 10-15 generations before birth defects would spike. So i guess yeah if a brother and sister really wanted to marry..hell why not let them.
(side note" if my Sister is reading this..don't get any pervy ideas!!)
So lets take a completely legal situation, and compare it to a universally (at least in the US) ILLEGAL situation for comparison.
1) Being gay, and having a same gender partner is not illegal. Getting married to a same gender person is NOT illegal anywhere in the US. It just is not recognized by law as a lawful union in most states, nor by the federal government
2) Incestuous relationships in which they attempt to get married IS illegal. Law DICTATES this as a Class B misdemeanor in most states. However should the couple leave the US, get married overseas, and return to the US, then the US law states that they MUST recognize the marriage as a LEGAL union.
So where is the in-equality now?
What really annoys me here is that the story is about a doctor who falls in love with his former patient. If Archie comics wanted to make a statement about how gay relationships should be recognized, couldn't the relationship have started in a less questionable way?
If the couple was straight you'd never question how they met.
That's a straw man... I think the post is from a pro-equal rights position, questioning why the relationship is coming from unethical beginnings. Valid question.
That was my first thought when I read the article. The medical ethics involved far outweigh the rest. As I stated before, I need to read the comic to see how they deal with the ethical issue of doctor-patient personal relationship.
Holder ingnored the Black Panthers voter intimidation and CNN ignores Marxist-crats convicted of voter fraud in NY. Holder is guilty of lying to Congress and for allowing his agency to run amuck with "Fast and Furious". He needs to be held accountable for the murder of Agent Bryan Terry. Holder should be tried for manslaughter and or negligent homicide in this case and spend the rest of his life in prison. If CNN won't report the news I guess we will need to.
Wrong room dopey. You want the rant down the street.
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Thanks for posting some completely off-topic proselytizing there. You could have at least attempted to justify your post by explaining Falun Gong's position on gay marriage.
I alway knew Archie was gay!
I was hoping Betty would marry Veronica...
Sad. Sad sad sad. Gays stole the rainbow and now comics.
ext they will steal the teletubbies. Oh wait, they did.
WHAT is the world coming to?? A mixed marriage? The guy is black for heavens sake!!!
Ha, ha you know I am kiding, just doing my impersonation of a bigot!!
Well done Archie Comics, welcome to the modern world.
More freak show trash. In the mean time 4 Marxist-crats are found guilty of voter fraud in NY and not a peep about it on CNN. What a bunch of hacks. CNN – Communist News Network
I'm sure someone was shot in Riviera Beach, Florida as well. Your right... National news networks need to focus on small time local news that happens nationally constantly... like yours... regardless of political party...
czarthur,
If you can't grow up and cut out the juvenile name-calling, FOX News blog would probably be happy to have you.
*yawn*
Wow. I thought they stopped making Archie comics like 20 years ago. I wonder if they called CNN to ask them to report this.
They still sell like crazy.
Until just the other month Archie still had the record for most digital sales of a comic.
Go figure.
And here I was thinking that this was just a ploy for them to sell more comics by stepping into the more contorversal stuff...
Does CNN have a gay story quota that they have to meet everyday? Jesus, for 10% of the population they sure demand a lot of attention.
Actually they are way less than 10%, probably less than 2%.
Actually 10% is pretty accurate... just saying
We are a proud percentage 🙂
Eh, more propaganda from the LGBT movement and its supporters.
Just another ignorant chime-in from the closeted right.
Well Chris – I mean are you surprised at our reactions? The LGBT movement pushed and pushed and wow guess what – pushed a little too far maybe? Sure feels like it from where I'm sitting.
I sincerely hope you are not playing the traditional Christian martyr card. LGBT individuals are only seeking to have the same opportunities as everyone else. The opportunity to make a life with whom they choose, live their life with that person in a recognized union, and when the time comes see that person off at their side and not in a waiting room. I think that's something worth making a few people uncomfortable.
Another step to stopping abuse, harassment, segregation, injustice.
but so many steps left to climb..as most of these posters are showing
Abuse, harrassment, segregation, injustice? You have to be kidding me? Keep your bedroom peversions to yourself and you'll never have to hear from all of us that you keep try to shove this "minority status" bull crap down our throats. Being "gay" is a lifestyle choice and nothing else. If it isn't then it is an abnormality and we should be trying to find a cure instead of encouraging it.
@czarthur
"Being "gay" is a lifestyle choice and nothing else. If it isn't then it is an abnormality and we should be trying to find a cure instead of encouraging it."
If straight people would stop having gay babies, it wouldn't be an issue! 😉 If it is an abnormality, it comes from straight people
so apparently we should trust YOUR opinion over what science had found? Im sorry, but who ever told you what you thought mattered? Go back to the third grade and slap your teacher for passing you, that was an injustice to you.
gays belong in prison where they get piped daily
Bigots belong in school to get an education.
In response to the conservative commenters I'd just like to say my partner and I are celebrating 30 years together. Noone automatically died of AIDs; we always had a happy supportive relationship and our families accepted us together. Will be spending the holidays with his family. Peace on Earth everyone.
Whatever!!
You are a very sick man, you just don't realize it yet.
Are the pickings on 4chan that dry tonight?
Merry Christmas Steven.
all those idiots that support gays i hope your kids become gay
I hope your children are able to get an education.
I SURE PRAY THAT YOUR KIDS become gay, now that will be goooood.
Try again. People don't become gay, they are born that way. Do some research.
your wrong! It is a choice! Im sick an tired of people trying to make excuses for their own actions. God doesn't create people gay and then condemn them. That is their own doing.
trav,
Guess again or tell us about your mind-reading expertise to claim that you can read the minds of millions of people and know they are lying. Get serious. lol.
Not. While I'm at it, people aren't born attracted to children, dogs, monkeys, etc. It is a perversion, bless your darling heart.
Observer,
I am serious. When i was young I knew it was wrong. People's minds get seared and they no longer can think and make right decisions. they are led by their emotions.
trav,
Still waiting to hear how you can read the minds of millions of people and CLAIM they are all liars. Sounds pretty delusional. Please tell us all about it.
it's pretty presumptious of you trav to state you know what god thinks. did your collection of 2,000 year old shepard's tales tell you that? maybe it was your pedophile priest?
Trav, let's look at the logic of choosing. So you choose. You have now opened yourself up to potential mockery. Scorn from friends and family even physical assault. But let's say you are okay with that, since you claim all these people choose this life.
What happens when it gets to the point when people are commiting suicide from bullying or shame? If it is simply a choice, why not turn it off? Do you see where the arguement falls apart. According to you people are choosing to commit suicide rather then choosing not to be gay. Does that sound like a choice?
Further, look how many gay people are out there. And let's face it, even in America they don't even have it easy. Forget some countries where you can go to jail or killed for being gay. Again, why would so many people choose this lifestyle, if they could choose to be straight, why not simply do that. Perhaps because it isn't a choice. The gay community fights an uphill battle. And if it was merely a choice I think we would see far more people simply choosing to be straight because it can be easier.
There is nothing shown in the human genome project that you are born gay. You are born male or female with extremely small exceptions. Gay IS a Choice.
Ya gotta be kidding,
You have ZERO proof it is a choice. Guess again. Millions of gays say you are clueless.
🙂 My oldest came out at age 17. I have to LMAO when I think of the horrified people who think she "caught" it from me. OTOH, she's a teen terror, so I didn't get everything I hoped for.
My mother is quite proud of her 4.0 GPA pre-med student gay son 🙂
Mother and son should both be very proud of each other. Both are apparently very smart.
SICK, SICK, SICK ! ! ! !
Need a Niquil shot? It usually helps...
Wow people still believe in a the god fearing faith that KILLED more people than all the world wars combined, and forced them to believe in a god or they and their family die? Archie writers and CEO, the educated and those of us who practice tolerance applaud you.
What a load of bull, Christians have killed more than all the wars combined? Please cite your sources for this tale of yours. Lets start with American wars, no religion in the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Civil War, Spanish-American war, WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam. Now please show me how Christians did all this? You can't though can you? Because all you have is lies and stereotypes that you use to bash what you don't understand. Your the dicitonary definition of hypocrite....
well he did specify all the world wars combined..if i where to guess i would say he was referring to the crusades which ran like what 500-600 years..add in little nasties like the Inqusitions and such..would get pretty staggering.
Not sure if it would approach the numbers from the world wars..as the logistics back then would probably set it at several thousand/crusade..whereas world Wars just annihialated cities worth of people
Hmm... we have King Henry's wars followed by his lovely daughter, Bloody Mary. They killed quite a few of their own. The battles and deaths during even the reformation was staggering. Battles still happen due to religion /shrugs
Organized religion is a scourge that must to be eliminated. It is a means of controlling the weak minded and covering for pedophiles. Even the orignal Chrisitians didn't believe in organized religion. Jesus would be appalled and the brainless zombies that persecute others in his name.
actually Jesus wouldn't have been Christian........
Wow, you're so full of shi t, you could work at CNN.R
Wow, you're so full of shi t, you could work at CNN.
too gay
I'm confused. Is it disgusting or absolutely disgusting? What's the difference, really?
Not really? Been outside recently? Times are a changing.
the world is falling apart.
It's digusting: There's no excuse for BIGOTRY.
Disgusting.
Yes you are disgusting, but this comic showing two people who love each other getting married is beautiful.
Absolutely disgusting.
What, the fact that you're forty and the closest thing to marry you is the neighborhood cat?
You are one bored troll, aren't you?
When's Mr. Weatherbee coming out of the closet? He always made my gaydar go off.
I loved Archie comics as a kid. Too bad they're comics are giving into the post-modernist relativism which is aiding the downfall of this country: "As long as it doesn't hurt anybody, then it's okay." Just wait until incest relationships start "coming out of the closet" because people will say that "As long we love each other, it's all that's important." We're 10 years away from seeing this from happening.
Now Scott..point to the spot on the doll of where your mean old uncle touched you
Yep
come out of the closet please! Is that you Rick Scott? Ahhh, I remember that glory hole incident very clearly now 😉
'Everybody who disagrees with the gay agenda must be gay'. Yeah, that's brilliant. As brilliant as the playground swing set.
I totally agree with you. At the rate we are going, in 10 years our society will say "You can't tell that 10 year girl that she can't be with the 45 year old neighbor. The love each other!"
It's worrisome when people show they can't tell the difference between consensual relationships and not. Genuinely frightening for all the innocent kids and sheep in their reach.
Scott,
Do you have an attention span problem? This is about gays not incest. Try to stay on topic.
the reall problem should be why two hot chicks would fight over a Ginger?
PRAY OUT THE GAY!!! I learned that from the Bachmann's!
Size matters.
I read archie comics, OMG does that mean I'm gay?!
well..not from this story line..however by reading them then yes you are
Or maybe playing footsie in airport bathroom stalls... Idk?
A nd I wonder why Muslims hate Amerika
Right, because of Gay marriage.. thats it.. you're not very smart, are you?
Not just gay marriage, but gay marriage in comic books! That's why we have war! Well done, school really paid off for you!
If you really wonder, there are tons of books on the subject. Sadly, none of them mention Kevin getting married to a black doctor in a "what if" Archie story 🙂
Please! If Archie had any sense, he'd marry Big Ethel! She's not bad looking, she doesn't put him through all the drama that Betty and Veronica do, and considering all the time she spent trying to catch Jughead, she must be a hell of a cook!
Hmm I don't have a problem with the gay marriage..i do however have a problem with a therapist falling in love with a patient...where is his professional code of conduct???
Also on a side note..THEY STLL WRITE ARCHIE COMICS????????????????????????????????????????
It looks like they got together after the therapeutic relationship was over, after the client was walking. They're shown shaking hands goodbye, then the relationship begins.
If the comic is going to reflect the reality of the times, next issue should have the good Lt. complaining about not being able to sit for a week after the honeymoon...
I think Kevin will be disappointed when he finds out the real reason my Jughead is called "Jug Head".
oops "why"
The Archie brand is ruined. And that's what happens when you force an agenda, for right or wrong. Especially on a young audience.
How about Betty marries Veronica... now we're talking...
Go away, perverts.
I'm cool with this. Relax.
Good call dad.
Happy early Birthday
Im surprised it took them this long.Archie comics were always really weird,the fact that none of those people resembled teenage kids.They all had adult bodies,not to mention all the out of date influences from their 1941 debut,like the old car and Jugheads hat.
I always thought Archie and Reggie would get gay for each other,like how they did on saved by the bell.
why is this news...
Anal cancer for all!!!!!!
Stimulation with that area actually reduces such chances. Anatomy 101 is fun 🙂
Mouth cancer for all!!! LoL
I'll bet Jug Head's p!ssed.
Wow...don't know what to think here. We have the happy fudgepacking couple right there in the middle of good old Riverdale...like some kind of politically correct acid trip. Then on the other hand, it ruffles the feathers of the religious right, so...I guess I'm cool with it!
Even if the "religious right" is on the right side of this issue?
Pretty childish politics you're playing there.
Bravo to all you highly progressive hayseeds!!! - not a peep about it being a mixed-race couple!
BTW – Kevin and Clay do NOT threaten my hetero marriage.
Ta-ta!!!
Its just ridiculous to me that people are actually coming on here and saying that a gay COMIC BOOK couple getting married is a sad day in our country, really?
Agreed! Like seriously, have you not stepped outside in the past 5 years? This isn't the 50's people, grow up.
Small steps. american comics are starting to grow up. while there have been alteritive life styles in comics.. it was a "b" story for the action. American comics deal with every thing else save gender idenitry and relationships. its nice to see archie leading the way. as to those that view this negitively.. welcome to the 21st century. dont blame the world changing on morality. there has been a belife that humans have had three souls.. male female and the third... this belife perdates most religons
Won't be buying any more Archie comic books. Thanks for ruining a great comic series by sucking (pardon my pun) up to the weirdo's of our country. You forget so soon who have been buying all those issues all these years. Now the less than 1 pct of our country can have you.
lmao you actually still buy Archie comics? That explains a lot.
Grow up, ignoring GLBT people won't make them cease to exist.
Ha,you read Archie comics?You're lame.
Besides,everyone knows it stopped being Interesting when Jughead Jones joined the time police.
Next , Archie falls in love with an elephant.Jughead marries a tree and Reggie joins nambla.Good job.
You're a moron
Such an adult response. Is it being gay and a military veteran, or is it the interracial relationship that has your tights in a twist? If you don't like the story line, don't buy the comic, easy as that.
The problem Paul, is that too many people think they now better than anyone else, and through their religious/neo-nazi/white supremacy/political indoctrination must let us know how wrong we are for not thinking like them.
Outside of equal rights – I get that – if you are already living a lifestyle different that the majority why don't you just create your own union that is sacred to you but not marriage? Leave marraige to the hetros and your golden.
Bryan, Are you aware that married couples get certain benefits that non legally married couples do not get? Benefits such as the ability to file jointly on their tax return which gives them a reduction in their taxes? What about the ability for one spouse to sign permission for medical treatment or even be with their spouse at the hospital when only "relatives" are allowed in to see the patient? I could go on and on. So your question of why can't they just create their own "sacred marriage" and leave marriage alone really isn't equal. The real issue at heart is civil rights for all. "All men were created equal". It doesn't say "All men were created equal as long as your hetro".
Equal rights for all!
the end of a long run, I wonder why they decided to quit getting paid to write this, they have just lost most of the middle school kids. Parents still have a say in what they buy.
Yeah I know right!? I always had to hide some of my more gruesome comics.
It's been decades since I read any Archie comics but when I did I kinda thought Jughead was gay and was in love with Archie. I assumed he knew he had no chance so he just hung around as a buddy. When you consider; Jughead never seriously pursued a woman, any dating episodes were comic affairs, he acted and dressed differently from the other characters and seemed to take a dim view of any social relations, it wasn't all that difficult to see something that wasn't openly presented. I don't suppose that was the authors real intent but even so........just sayin'.
This is truly a sad day for a country that use to be GOD fearing and loving! When is the comic book going to feature pedophilia or beastiality?
Typical over-reaction. They used to say this about blacks marrying whites.
I refuse to live in fear of anything.
You will regret your lifestyles when you stand in the pit of hell to burn for eternity...
You're a Man of Hate, and the rest of the country isn't obligated to bow down to your religious bigotry.
"use to be GOD fearing and loving!"-- I've always thought this statement was odd, ManOfGOD.
`You love what you fear, no offense, but that sounds like Stockholm Syndrome.
Well–wishing gay kids to be born to parents as punishment is weird, but I would always welcome more gays. The more the merrier...though it won't help me much. I'd have to wait 30 years until they're ready for a date...I'll wait though, cause I've basically screwed every cute guy in new york. But seriously... pedophilia is a bad comparison regarding comic books...and beastiality is just foolish. but now that I think about it, I rather see beastality than youre ugly bigoted ass going at it with your poor wife... she should commit viricide (that would be the killing of one's husband) so she has the chance to get some good lovin one day from someone who is god and people loving. I hope you don't call yourself a Christian. You are a pig...and a disgrace! OMG If I WERE GOD I would strike you dead for being such a troll and abomination...I'll pray for you and that youre wife have the courage to put you (and us 🙂 out of your misery. xoxo
And it's truly a sad day when people cannot think for themselves and relyon another ficticious character to invoke fear and hatred of others who are different.
the pedophilia storyline will involve the School Principal, Mr. Weatherbee, taking advantage of his position of power. Gross !!!!
Apparently your god is a bigotted a$shole just like you, how fitting.
Sorry, but I refuse to love anything I fear or fear anything I love. That's just sick and twisted, and anyone who's into that sort of thing has a screw loose.
You are STOOPID. Inbreed? eeww. If I were god I'd strike you dead. Your poor wife. She should smother you while you sleep. I hope you don;t have kids. If you do, maybe they'll commit patricide. (look it up STOOPID)
Congrats to Kevin and Clay! woohoo. Eventually all the STOOPIDS will die off and become useful as fertilizer. Lets pray for them in the meantime that they can find Jesus and show love, kindness and compassion...or that God just take them in there sleep.
Man of God? Really? More like man of bigotry or man of hate. Real nice, just like Jesus, I presume. This is why some people HATE christians.
******************************NEW FLASH: **********************************
ManOfGOD thought he was a Christian then found out that he had been duped. He has a condition called STOOPID. Afflicted individuals are frequently bigoted and uncomfortable at the thought of boy on boy kissing. Many studies indicate that these individuals have usually no more then a 1st grade education. Some theorize that a kiss from another male, with a hug and the utterance of the words, "I forgive you for your stupidity" might break the STOOPID affliction. Unfortunately, the kiss donor has frequently vomited after the healing kiss. This is believed to be caused by the severe psychological trauma of having to maintain lip to lip contact with said grotesque unchristian individuals. Recommendation is that in lieu of subjecting caring, concerned and helpful gay men with said trauma that a wooden stake be driven through the chest of the afflicted. Then their remains can be used as fertilizer so there existence wasn't such a terrible waste.
Why would anybody fear god ?
You are not well.
Seriously? You equate being gay with pedophilia and beastiality? Seriously?
And you say you are a man of god? You might want to revisit your scripture.
I'm sure God is thrilled your your judgement of others as well as your lack of love and compassion.
Happy Holidays!
Nice
I can't wait to buy 'what'shisname' from the book store or from the news stand!
Oh, this bring back so many memories. I loved the Archie comic series when I was a child. I always wanted Archie and Betty together and glad to see he took her instead of Veronica to the wedding of Kevin and Clay!!
Congratulations to the happy couple and for this comic for moving into the 21st century. When we stop shutting gay families and their children out of the protections and dignity of marriage, it makes their lives better. It's time to treat them equally.
You'd think "JUGHEAD" would've been the gay one. : )
I thought they were all gay!
Archie Comics used to be so wholesome. I will no longer be purchasing the comics. This is the start that will turn Archie into MAD. I suppose Betty or Veronica will be raped next. Oh wait, how about an unplanned pregnancy and an abortion. This is what happens when society accepts immoral behavior.
I'd like to write a long, well worded response to your ignorance and prejudiced statement. But I think I simple F~ You will suffice. Have a wonderful holiday season!
Why? Upset that he's right? You're the dip in this shyt, liberal dope. Here's hoping they develop the plot even more and Kevin contracts AIDS from his boy toy.
I wont be buying them anymore either. how come G a y activists always resort to name calling when they cant prove their point? Marriage is between a man and a woman, Its only natural. Have you ever tried to put two wall sockets together or tried the same with two plugs. The Plug goes into the socket.
Actually a reply to Paul above. So human relationships can be compared to electrical devices? Really? So I guess you need a voltage converter to marry a European?
No, F you. Bend lover and let your friends take a stab at correcting your thought process.
Touche. Nice
Gays and lesbians can be parents. Basic Biology 101.
Well @Paul Grant Since most europeans speak different languages a translator or English classes could be metaphor for a socket converter. ITS A METAPHOR!
I loved David and Goliath too!
They were totally gay btw.
I think you mean David and Jonathon. David KILLED Goliath.
"The Plug goes into the socket."
Actually, Paul, I think the gays already have that one figured out.
Good. Save your money and get a therapist or a brain MRI you bigot. Maybe youre a big closet case with a load of unhealthy fetishes–they usually go hand and hand...eeew. I never was a closet case, thank god, and had a supportive network to help me through some challenges–I find the biggest bigots are deeply ashamed of their "impure gay thoughts" 😮 ...otherwise, what the motive to silence social progress and fail to support people that need kindness and compassion? Unless you are in need of therapy because A. you are a big grouchy bigot B. You are just plain dumb C You suffer from some form of retardation D. All of the above
It's difficult to become an educated and intelligent person when you base your life off of 2,000 year old shepard's tales.
*** Archie Comics used to be so wholesome.....
It still is.
Bravo!! Thank you for being ahead of the curve!! I was an avid comic book reader as a kid and never looked to Archie as I thought it was so vanilla and not like my reality. I may indeed have to give it a second chance.
Congratulations to Archie Comics and too Kevin and Clay!!