After years-long legal battle, transgender woman returns to work
Vandy Beth Glenn was fired from her job with the state of Georgia after transitioning from male to female.
December 26th, 2011
02:41 PM ET

After years-long legal battle, transgender woman returns to work

By Emma Lacey-Bordeaux, CNN Radio

Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) - Four years on, Vandy Beth Glenn still gets choked up thinking about the day she was fired from her perfect job.

The petite brunette recalls exactly what her boss said that October day, how the reasons behind the termination sparked a lawsuit that could have far-reaching implications about how transgender people are treated at work.

Vandy Beth Glenn was born Glenn Morrison. At a young age, she says, she knew she wasn’t a man.

“It’s like a constant voice in the back of your head telling you ‘This is wrong. This isn’t the life you are supposed to be living,’” she said.

The voice grew louder as the years went on, but the Georgia native moved through life, earning a journalism degree from the University of Georgia and serving as an officer in the U.S. Navy. She’s fascinated by language, she says, loves to see how government works. In 2005, she landed her perfect job as a legislative editor at the Georgia General Assembly.

Around that time, Glenn’s life outside work began to change, too.

She received a formal diagnosis and name for something she’d long understood: She had gender identity disorder. It’s a somewhat controversial diagnosis but listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the final word for most psychiatrists. The condition is marked by discomfort about one's own biological sex and gender expression.

Working with a therapist, Glenn decided to make the outward change. She began to dress like a woman, and in her personal life, the shift went smoothly. She beams when she recalls the support she received from friends. Some people who transition, she says, experience dramatic breaks with friends, but “that experience is alien to me.” In October 2006, she informed her work supervisor that she planned to become a woman. Her supervisor also expressed support for Glenn and for the decision. For Halloween, she made a first tentative step toward transitioning at work. She decided to come to work dressed as a woman.

The Office of Legislative Counsel at the Georgia General Assembly, where Glenn worked, is responsible for preparing bills for the legislature. The office does serious work, and it’s paramount that it not appear to take any side on matters in front of the legislature. But like in many other workplaces, employees came to work in costumes on Halloween.

Glenn wore conservative women’s business attire, nothing flashy. The outfit did not sit well with the head of her office, Sewell Brumby, who sent her home. He would later testify that he made this decision because “it’s unsettling to think of someone dressed in women’s clothing with male sexual organs inside that clothing.”

Brumby didn’t know that he sent Glenn home because of an outfit she hoped to wear to work every day.

One year later, Glenn, aided by her therapist, decided she’d come to work as a woman: Vandy Beth. She’d continued the charade – a woman at home, a man at work - long enough. Looking back, she quipped, “it’s odd to have two identities and not be fighting crime.”

Glenn's supervisor made Brumby aware of Glenn’s decision. According to court documents, he felt concerned that a transgender employee might be viewed as “perhaps immoral, perhaps unnatural, and perhaps liberal or, if you will, ultraliberal.”

On October 16, 2007, Glenn got the summons she’d dreaded. She was nervous and suspected she was going to lose her job. She questioned whether she would remember the words and reasons her boss used to explain the termination, so she came with a hidden audio recorder.

“Based on previous events that had occurred in the office, I had good reason to believe that I was going to be fired, and I knew that if I was going to pursue any legal action, I would have to have my facts straight,” she said. “I didn’t trust that the man who fired me would necessarily want to accurately report the details of that last conversation, so it just seemed like the prudent thing to do.”

What fuels transgender backlash?

Under Georgia law, Glenn could lawfully record the conversation without her boss’ knowledge or consent, something she knew from a journalism class in college.

“I also thought that, against all odds, that if I didn’t lose my job that day, then the recordings would be a reminder of a great moment in tolerance,” she says.

It wasn’t.

Glenn’s boss said the way she dressed would make others uncomfortable. He told her that her gender transition would be disruptive.
It all happened so quickly. Before she absorbed the gravity of the moment, she was cleaning out her desk and sitting at home, stunned, with her cats as comfort.

Many months later, in July 2008, Lambda Legal filed suit on behalf of Glenn. The organization, which works to establish equality for the gay, lesbian, transgender, bisexual and queer community through courts, represented her for free.
Greg Nevins, Glenn’s attorney, knew he’d found a good case when he heard about the recording.

“It was very clear what the reasons were” for her termination, he said. “It was very clearly centered on a belief that people should look a certain way if they are a certain gender in the workplace.”

Indeed, Glenn’s former boss made his reasons plain in his deposition, reiterating a belief that Glenn’s actions were wrong. The state argued that the move did not violate federal law and sought to have the case dismissed.

But despite the legal help, Glenn faced many other costs in the years it took the legal battle to unfold, the costs to her time chief among them.

Months passed before the court ruled on procedural matters, and she had to learn to be patient.

“It wasn’t so important to me how long it took, because I knew it would end,” she said.

Financially, though, the process took a toll. Glenn had to find a way to make money.

She cashed in her retirement savings and drew down her savings. She found work through a temp agency and got editing work from a friend, Chris Lund, who she said “did more than any other one person to keeping me out of bankruptcy in the last several years.” She remembers moments of despair and anger but says she never lost sight of the end point to the suit.

There were costs to her privacy, too. Glenn made news when she took on the state in federal court. She faced probing questions about her genitalia and which bathroom she uses. She had to relive the day her boss fired her again and again. What seems to trouble her most, though, is that nobody ever asks about anything else.

“I’d like to think I’m about a lot more than this. I’m not just a lawsuit plaintiff,” she said. “I’d like to think I’m an intelligent person and a good conversationalist.”

When she speaks about growing up transgendered or facing uncomfortable personal questions, her voice grows soft, almost hard to hear.

But when she speaks about movies or astronomy, she lights up. She rattles off lists of esoteric film directors - Werner Herzog is a favorite - and eagerly explains why Mars fascinates her: “We’ve actually been there. It’s not just some other light in the sky.”

She speaks slowly and deliberately, like she’s thinking about the impact of every word. She weaves in little jokes about grammar and language, then sits back to wait for her audience to catch up.

Still, it was court case that pushed her back into headlines in December.

A U.S. district judge had already found that Glenn was the victim of sex discrimination and said she could return to her job, but that decision was pending the outcome of an appeal.

Months of legal wrangling went by before the case went to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, housed in downtown Atlanta, which has jurisdiction over federal cases from Alabama, Georgia and Florida. It’s one tier below the U.S. Supreme Court and typically viewed as a conservative panel.

But after Glenn’s attorney completed his oral argument in front of the three-judge panel, Nevins says, he had a good feeling. So good that he went home and opened a bottle of champagne.

The judges seemed to readily grasp his argument and even agree with it.

His instinct was right. The 19-page decision leaves little room for interpretation: The judges held that Glenn’s firing met the characteristics of sex discrimination, writing that “all persons, whether transgender or not, are protected from discrimination on the basis of gender stereotypes.”

Now, after years of freelance work and living on her savings and retirement accounts, Glenn finds herself back at work and back at the job she loves. The boss who fired her has since retired.

“It feels great to be back,” she said, but she pauses when asked more questions about her return. “I can’t really talk about my job.”

She's not bound to silence by any legal action, but she’s not comfortable discussing the job she fought so hard for.

She didn’t get back pay but did receive full pay and benefits starting in August 2010, after her victory at the federal district court, even though she did not return to work during that time.

Lund, the friend who helped Glenn find editing work, says her return to work is the first step “towards making her whole.” He stresses that she still has a tough road ahead to get back to where she was, professionally and financially, before her termination.

But Glenn says she hopes the suit will help others in her position.

“I know it sounds like a line, and I’ve said it countless times, but this was never about me,” she said.

Employment lawyers say the ruling may, indeed, go broader than Glenn’s case, as employment lawyers and professors think through the implications of the precedent.

Jamie L. Dodge, a law professor at the University of Georgia who represented employers in discrimination actions, says that because of the decision, she’d recommend that employers revise their policies concerning transgender employees.

The state of Georgia still has the option to appeal this ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court. The attorney for the state did not return calls for comment about the option.

But Dodge says a reversal of the decision seems unlikely.

“The Supreme Court already indicated that this was the way they were looking at these issues,” she said.

In the appellate court’s decision, it cites a Supreme Court case from 20 years ago in which a woman was denied promotion because she was deemed too “macho.” The Supreme Court found that behavior to be discriminatory on the basis of sex.

Now, the 11th Circuit has said the same protection the law affords to others applies to transgender people as well: A person cannot be lawfully terminated because an employer objects to the way an employee expresses his or her gender.

But transgender advocates caution that the ruling will not end workplace discrimination. They hope for legislation at the state and federal levels that bars discrimination based on gender. Currently, only a handful of states protect transgender employees.

For the second consecutive year, a measure that would protect gay, transgender and bisexual state workers will be up for consideration in Georgia’s General Assembly. Glenn sees these moves as part of a trend. She expects prejudices against people like her will fade in her lifetime, although, for some, it will always “get their dander up.”

“Just hope,” she said, “they don’t have power over you.”

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  1. bptsj

    Let's see... She's intelligent, educated, witty personality, very cute. I wish I was 30 years younger....
    I'm happy for you Vandy Beth. May 2012 and beyond be filled with love and happiness for you.

    January 28, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
  2. crazy

    I could not read the whole article because it's too long, but I am against imorality. this man is just decieving himself periord. he will burn in hell

    January 21, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • bptsj

      1. There is no heaven or hell. It is a myth born out of the Middle East.
      2. Who are you to define morality?

      January 21, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
  3. viper

    To all you self serving SOB's, this is not your world. you only live in it like millions of others before you. Remember..............going to church every sunday doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in your garage makes you a car.

    January 19, 2012 at 7:56 am | Report abuse |
  4. Willl

    Transgender is where the line is. Bi and gay people were born that way, nothing you can do about that and its not a problem if they act like professions at work, but playing dress up because of the voices in your head is very unprofessional and unnecessary. Do what you want on your own time.

    January 14, 2012 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      Spoken like a true bigot.

      January 15, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  5. tokuiten

    I'm glad that Glenn got her job back.

    However, the fact that this was only a civil case shows that there is still something seriously wrong with America. There should have been a criminal case, as well. Everyone involved in firing her should be serving life in SuperMax without possibility of parole, not free to roam the streets and ruin more women's lives.

    December 27, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
  6. crp0499

    We need to pray for this man, not encourage him.

    December 27, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Cat Lincoln

    The default state of the foetus is female, until the Y chromosome starts to rearrange things. Every male on this planet is a transgendered female. Ponder on that, uber-guys.

    December 27, 2011 at 6:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Lauren

      Yeahhh that's not true. While I understand what you're saying, the second x chromosome actually does play an important role in how females develop. If what you're saying were true, people who are genetically Xo (Turner's Syndrome) would be developmentally indistinguishable from people who are XX (typical female)

      January 19, 2012 at 11:38 pm | Report abuse |
  8. DN3

    I find it absolutely laughable that people who are gay, lesbian or bi do not accept transgendered people...

    December 27, 2011 at 12:02 am | Report abuse |
  9. Carl

    Being open minded has nothing to do with it. If you believe something is wrong.. why should one be forced to accept it as right>????

    This is a perfect example of Liberal views of freedom of speech. "You are free to say what you want, unless you say something that offends me."

    That is how bad it has gotten in our country... when have become a country of wimps who are afraid so say what we think for fear of hurting someones' feelings.. that is a load of crap.

    December 26, 2011 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • AM

      Your view of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness: "you're allowed to do what you want, unless you do something that offends me."

      December 27, 2011 at 12:01 am | Report abuse |
    • JOregon

      If you don't like our country I'm sure Iran would be more to your liking.
      Keep the women silent barefoot and pregnant.
      Keep those of the wrong ethnicity under terror.
      Stone those of the wrong religion.
      Yep your kind of country.
      I guess you miss the good ol' days when the colored people knew their place.

      December 27, 2011 at 12:01 am | Report abuse |
    • DN3

      You are an example of a person who misunderstands the meaning of 'liberty' and 'freedom'. By definition, liberty is the freedom to do what you want AS LONG AS it doesn't offend others. That's why there are laws.

      December 27, 2011 at 12:03 am | Report abuse |
      • AM

        I think a better word than "offend" would be "harm". People like poor Carl are so easily offended that if we made laws against everything he found distasteful, we'd be back five evolutionary steps.

        December 27, 2011 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
      • Carl

        Why is it ok for liberals to express their views, but when a conservative does, it is offensive?

        December 27, 2011 at 12:37 am | Report abuse |
      • AM

        Trust me, pal, this isn't a liberal-conservative thing. This is a don't-be-a-pr*ck thing. Don't you dare start whining about political discrimination. Take responsibility for your own opinions.

        December 27, 2011 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
      • JOregon

        I'm not liberal.
        I'm not conservative.
        I'm rational.
        You're not.

        December 27, 2011 at 1:15 am | Report abuse |
      • timbo

        Nope, you're wrong. Nobody has the right to not be offended. Laws can not force behavior simply because someone is offended by it because you cannot define safely what is offensive. Try again. You only have the right to your life, liberty and property.

        January 10, 2012 at 12:44 am | Report abuse |
    • Jebus

      To be honest, I never really thought much about transgendered people. However, if they annoy you right-wingnuts and Jesus freaks that much, then I'm all for them!

      January 16, 2012 at 8:44 am | Report abuse |
  10. fda

    when you think you know a guy...

    December 26, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
  11. AM

    Love the fact that professed Christians decided to express such unmitigated hatred for an individual they've never met on the day after Christmas. Guess you've only gotta be good until Santa brings the presents. Remember, kiddies, Jesus only loves you until you make somebody uncomfortable.

    December 26, 2011 at 11:13 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Cathy

    The people posing on here as Christians don't understand the message of the Christ. It is so easy it is difficult. "Love others as yourself, this is the law and the prophets" (the summation of the Christ teaching). So according to Christ we should love this person at least as much as we value ourselves, no conditions, period, end. No hating for any reason, just loving, anything else is not Christianity. If she wants our pants, we should give her our dress also and it should not matter to us one bit either way, not my way, but Thy way... Jesus said it is what in a person's heart that corrupts them, i.e. our hateful thoughts are corrupt. According to Jesus "with what measure you mete it shall be measured to you again" which also makes me want to watch MY thoughts...but that takes work. It is much easier to point fingers than it is to catch yourself in the hell you create between your ears.

    December 26, 2011 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Heed This

      You're so right, Cathy! And there is a saying on the Internet that has been going around for quite some time that really makes you stop to think. It goes “I Like Your Christ. I Do Not Like Your Christians. They Are So Unlike Your Christ.” - Gandhi.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Mark Mulligan

    Congratulations on your successful employment discrimination outcome and best wishes with your career.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:53 pm | Report abuse |
  14. lefty1963

    This story is way too long,...but on the other hand,...he's a fairly decent looking chick.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lisa

      Wrongo. Believe me, that picture is photoshopped like mad. I knew Glenn (his real name) when he still thought he was a guy. Now he's a dude in a wig. All you have to do is see an interview where he can't photoshop and see it's just a dude in a wig.

      December 27, 2011 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jebus

        LOL, well, I know LIsa and trust me, Glenn looks waaaaaayyyyyy better than Lisa ever will!

        January 16, 2012 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
      • You protest too much

        Do you realize how stupid you sound responding to random anonymous people about their looks? You're telling someone you have no picture of, have never seen, have never spoken to and do not know that they're uglier than the one picture at the top of the page.

        When come back, learn how to make a point or an insult that actually has teeth.

        January 16, 2012 at 8:53 am | Report abuse |
  15. Creaturz

    There is a reason they call the golden rule , golden.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Jeffrey

    The employer had every right to fire the person. The person that was working for the company was not the person they thought they were hiring, in other words this freak committed fraud.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      "The employer had every right to fire the person. The person that was working for the company was not the person they thought they were hiring, in other words this freak committed fraud."

      The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals disagrees with you. You don't think they have that authority? Then go live in Iran. Why do you hate this country?

      December 26, 2011 at 10:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOregon

      Unless she was hired to work in the S e*x industry she was hired for her ability to do a job. Not fraud at all.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:12 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Tex Gritter

    This is the epitome of idiocy. Drop yer' drawahs in frawnt o' th' mirror, Boah, an' take ah lawng gawk et wut ye' got. Wut ya see is wut yuh are!

    December 26, 2011 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • steven

      I understood "mirror" but got lost in all of the other rubbish.

      January 10, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  18. a lincoln

    I am so sick and tired of having to be politically correct, not offend anyone, this country has become disgustingly afraid to have or voice an opinion. In the case of Glenn, sounds to me like it was just supervision that had a problem with things here.....as it usually is. Sounds like more bee ess from the conservative right freaks, who are scarier than even a MAN in a dress. I would imagine she was advised to seek counseling from the husband of Michelle Bachman and pray her way out of her dilemma. This country makes me sicker every day with all the goody two shoes running around telling everyone how they should live, and that goes right to the top of our federal government and Congress. I am sick and tired of them and every one else knowing what is best for me.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
  19. MLS

    Nice to hear that she got her job back. She seems like a very intelligent young woman who stood up for herself...you go girl!!!

    December 26, 2011 at 10:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • DN3

      Glad to see there are open minded sensible people on here.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Carl

        You mean "You go "GUY", he is not a girl, He is nothing more than a physically mutilated man.

        I actually feel sorry for him.

        December 26, 2011 at 11:26 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Caliconor

    Hey! Here's an idea. Maybe some of you should worry about your own loser lifestyles before passing judgement on others? No one is forcing you to admire or pay any attention to this woman's life. You can avoid seeing it by NOT CLICKING ON THE LINK TO THIS ARTICLE.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • MIckeyNa

      I see you take your own advice to heart. Thanks for stopping by.

      December 26, 2011 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
  21. MIckeyNa

    I am not afraid of gays. I support gay rights and have gay friends. Their personal choices don't affect me. But this would impact my work. I struggle with a moral dilemma regarding transgenders. People that want to be cats and leopards and alter themselves to get closer to that goal bother me less. While their behavior is weird, it is also limiting in their ability to get jobs and take part in society. They aren't animals simply because they "think" they are part cat or "want" it to be so, they are humans. Likewise, if you have a male parts you are a man, if you have female parts, you are a woman. Some woman embody male traits and men the reverse its a fluid spectrum. Be gay, be straight, but embrace how you were born.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      So...you support gay rights, but not the rights of transgendered people? Prefacing that tidbit with "I support gay rights" doesn't make you any less of a bigot, you know that, right?

      "But this would impact my work. I struggle with a moral dilemma regarding transgenders."

      I fail to see how this is anyone's problem but your own. YOU deal with it. If you can't, then go find another damn job.

      December 26, 2011 at 10:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rob

      Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable, that doesn't mean that transgender people should hide who they are. Gender is more than just what is between your legs. There are some out there that are genetically ambiguous. And some whose brain chemistry and electrical activity don't match the genitals.

      December 26, 2011 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • MIckeyNa

        I disagree with the medical diagnosis of gender misidentification as a legitimate medical condition. The moral dilemma that I struggle with and am not afraid to voice is shared by many both gay and straight. Would I respect her as a human being of course, but I can't guarantee that I wouldn't have some unconscious bias or judgement. I am only human too. We make unconscious biasses on a routine if not daily basis. It is human nature to distinguish and categorize, and compare, whether consciously or not it is human nature. That is how it would affect my work, not that I would treat or any less of a human which she certainly is. Like all humans I am adaptable and value myself as a loving and compassionate person and try to extend that to all. But in my OPINION I see little difference between this and people who "feel" or "emobdy" inside, leopards and cats and the like. They in turn should be allowed the same rights if we extend these concessions to the transgender community.

        December 26, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • DN3

        Frankly, anybody who is gay or lesbian or bi and doesn't support/try to understand transgendered people are HYPOCRITES!!!! This would be like a non-white person calling another non-white person a racial slur. By the way, I'm not white.

        December 26, 2011 at 11:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • JOregon

        While it might be an issue at first eventually you would probably see her as a colleague and human.
        Many felt the same way you do when people of different races were integrated into society. As we grow to become a unified humanity we begin to look beyond bigotry.

        December 26, 2011 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • MichelleK

      So she should embrace her body but not her mind? I'd love to hear you say something like that to someone who's depressed.
      Here's how you're mentality would play out: I am not afraid of depressed people. I support their rights and have depressed friends. Their personal choices (as if someone's mentality is a choice btw) don't affect me. But this would impact my work. I struggle with a moral dilemma regarding people who can't function as a happy person. While their behavior is weird, it is also limiting in their ability to get jobs and take part in society. Their body is functioning so why isn't their mind functioning the same? Likewise, if your body is telling you to survive, you're mind should be telling you the same. Embrace how you were born.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • MIckeyNa

        See my reply above. Depression is a legitimate medical condition. I don't see legitimacy in gender misidentification. I'm sorry you disagree that is my opinion. It doesn't mean I would treat them any differently as mentioned above.

        December 26, 2011 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOregon

      I have had to work with a Transgendered woman. The only woman in that position among 5 different locations I have visited. Probably wouldn't have gotten the position if she had applied as a woman.
      Of those 5 location she is the easiest to work with. She has been there a long time, and does her job well.
      I don't work for that company so I suppose there are things I am missing, I am only mentioning my personal experience.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • oldguy

      Y'now, it's the men who wear women's clothes who are NOT transgendered that give ME the creeps. Like at the yearly talent or benefit shows put on by local groups like Rotary and Kiwanis, and don't forget the Elks. The way they disrespect women is so clear in how they pretend to act like one.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
  22. b4bigbang

    A little FYI: I read somewhere that when they do the surgery they usually leave the testes intact, they just sew them up inside the body, reason being that losing the testes results in the "woman" being unable to have an orgasm.
    Suppose "she" will have to have a long talk with "her" boyfriend or future husband.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rob

      You are wrong. Read some more. Dumb a$$.

      December 26, 2011 at 10:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • mk

      Actually the testes is the only part that is discarded and not used in the surgery. Totally untrue statement.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • AM

      Just so's you know, "I read somewhere" is not an adequate citation and probably wouldn't cut the mustard in a high school prep-course.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Carl

        Do you have any idea how disgusting and perverse your comments are.. His is a physically mutilated man, he is not, nor shall he ever be a woman. read my original post.. medical science will agree.. they do the surgery for the money. that's all.

        December 26, 2011 at 11:28 pm | Report abuse |
  23. celtichunter7

    She worked as a legislative editor at the Georgia General Assembly and says: “I’d like to think I’m about a lot more than this. I’m not just a lawsuit plaintiff,” she said. Welcome to the real world mister, I mean miss, I mean…well IT…is that the right term?

    She goes on to say: “I’d like to think I’m an intelligent person and a good conversationalist.” She lists a German filmmaker of impossible dreams and obscure fields, and "Mars is not just another light in the sky". Wow, heavy, prophetic. Not. It's very shallow and very esoteric for the select few. Not exactly rocket science, more like self-centeredness and lala-land thinking. You couldn't grow a real pair, so now you want a soft squishy cave to hide in.

    I hope you live a long, long life (and not do yourself in in a few years) to realize the insanity, revulsion, and reprehension you steeled yourself into.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • oldguy

      You are having such a snarling over-reaction to this story that it must be clear to most of us that your personality problems are far more serious than the problems you are projecting upon HER.

      December 26, 2011 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Phil

      The term you're looking for, addressing a woman you don't know, would be "Ma'am". Did no one teach you manners as a child?

      December 27, 2011 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Dave

    Better looking that 90% of American women her age. Essentially some combination of FAT and ugly tattoos.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • celtichunter7

      Emo Fem Metro saxual. Unic style.

      December 26, 2011 at 10:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lisa

      Wrongo. Believe me, that picture is photoshopped like mad. I knew Glenn (his real name) when he still thought he was a guy. Now he's a dude in a wig. All you have to do is see an interview where he can't photoshop and see it's just a dude in a wig.

      December 27, 2011 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • hehe

        if you actually work for the same employer, wouldn't you be breaching some type office policy and procedure etiquette?

        July 24, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  25. opinionatedlurker

    Regardless of religion or personal belief ... to all of you who are so quick to judge this situation .. keep this in mind. The very same laws protecting this person to dress as a women at work, are the laws that allow you to practice your faith and protect you from discrimination as well.

    December 26, 2011 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
  26. MIckeyNa

    Comments are not pr-screened before they post? Then why don't any of mine post?

    December 26, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • JOregon

      With CNN I am never sure what will post and what won't. Sometimes it is a hidden word inside a word that flags the moderators. For instance in the bible the book of Ti*tus won't post because there is a snicker, snicker, hidden word in the word.

      December 26, 2011 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ronny

        I had the same problem a few years ago with the word "psychotherapist".

        December 26, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
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