Opinion: Tim Wise: What is post-racial? Reflections on denial and reality
Tim Wise writes that believing in a post-racial U.S. requires "unwillingness to stare truth in the face."
January 31st, 2012
05:27 PM ET

Opinion: Tim Wise: What is post-racial? Reflections on denial and reality

Editor’s note: Tim Wise is the author of six books on race, including his most recent: Dear White America: Letter to a New Minority.  He tweets at @timjacobwise.

By Tim Wise, Special to CNN

(CNN) - Being asked to describe what “post-racial” means is a bit like being asked to describe a leprechaun, cold fusion or unicorns: we know what is meant, but, if we are willing to be honest, we also know that none of the four describe something real, something tangible, something true.

To me, “post-racial” is little more than a nonsense term devised by people (mostly white, frankly), who would simply rather not deal with the ever-present reality of racism and ongoing racial discrimination.

It is a diversion, intended to paper over the divisions that have long roiled our nation, and continue to do so today.

Though some sincerely believe this describes America’s reality– especially since a man of color was elected president - the illogic of believing this signals the veritable death of racism should be apparent: after all, we certainly wouldn’t claim that sexism and patriarchy had been smashed in Pakistan, India, Great Britain, Israel or the Philippines just because they all have elected women as heads of state.

Perceptions of discrimination a black and white story

To believe that the United States is post-racial requires an almost incomprehensible inability or unwillingness to stare truth in the face.

How can we be post-racial, after all, when the typical white family has 20 times the net worth of the typical black family, and 18 times that of the typical Latino family?

How can we be post-racial when studies find that even white men with criminal records are more likely to be called back for job interviews than black men without them, even when all other credentials and personal characteristics are indistinguishable?

How can we be post-racial when evidence suggests that the lightest-skinned immigrants earn roughly 17% more than the darkest-skinned immigrants, even when qualifications and levels of productivity are the same?

How can we be post-racial when Asian Americans, Latinos and blacks with college degrees are anywhere from one-third more likely to nearly twice as likely to be unemployed as their white counterparts? When schools serving mostly students of color are more than ten times as likely to be places of concentrated poverty, and far more likely to have the least experienced teachers?

How can we be post-racial when people of color continue to be so disproportionately targeted by our nation’s drug laws?

Although whites use drugs just as often as blacks (and more often than Latinos), it is people of color who comprise nearly 90% of persons incarcerated for a drug possession offense.  And it is people of color who are disproportionately stopped and searched for drugs and other illegal contraband, even though they are no more likely (and sometimes less likely) to be in possession of such items than whites are.

How can we be post-racial, when presidential candidates are either too afraid to raise these issues publicly, for fear of voter backlash (as with the Democratic incumbent), or willing to shamelessly exploit racial anxieties and resentments (as with at least one of the primary Republican challengers) by calling President Obama the “food stamp” president, or suggesting that poor black kids have “no habits of work” and should be made to clean their own schools as janitors?

This, despite the fact that most people in poor communities do work, and black teenage unemployment rates (now well over 40 percent) reflect only those black teens who are searching for jobs, and thus, by definition already have a solid work ethic, lacking only the opportunities to put that ethic into practice.

Sadly, the claims of America’s equanimity and post-raciality are not really new.

Even in the early 1960s, before the passage of civil rights legislation, at a time when we were still a formal apartheid state, polls found that a vast majority percent of whites already believed that blacks had just as good a chance to obtain a good job, housing or a good education as we or our children did.

In other words, white denial - one might say, delusion - on the matter of the nation’s racial reality has been longstanding.

It’s hard to say when or if we will actually arrive at that place called “post-racial”, or, better yet, post-racism.

But until whites begin naming streets in our neighborhoods after Martin Luther King, and naming the schools that our children attend after him (rather than fearing that such a designation might signify that our kids attend a “ghetto school”), I know for certain we are not “post-racial” yet.

 The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Tim Wise.

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  1. Tim Wise wants White geNOcide

    Why is White racial survival a taboo topic in this society?

    Because of the anti-White PC religion that demands that all White people must celebrate our own geNOcide, or be ex-communicated as “naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews”

    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White

    February 4, 2012 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      You need help .. Honestly, serious help..

      February 4, 2012 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Stormfront

      this man is absolutely correct. You should listen to him if you have an IQ lower than six, which you do if you're white and want anything to do with blacks.

      February 4, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        You should be next in line for that help..

        February 5, 2012 at 2:14 am | Report abuse |
  2. Tim Wise wants White geNOcide

    People say there is this RACE problem and this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries. They say the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-Whites. It’s really just the final solution to the White problem. It’s genocide.

    Tim Wise says he is anti-racist. What he is, is anti-White.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

    February 4, 2012 at 1:38 am | Report abuse |
  3. c.bam


    February 4, 2012 at 1:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      mmm, what if you an "Tim Wise promotes Whiteg enNOcide" get together and discuss this issue. You both seem to have the same mentality, just opposite ends of the spectrum..

      February 4, 2012 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
      • UpyrsOh

        Thumbs. Up

        February 5, 2012 at 2:44 am | Report abuse |
  4. kavionah

    @ TimWise_Supports_WhitegeNOcide

    Anti-racist is a code word for ignorant/stupid.

    February 3, 2012 at 11:26 pm | Report abuse |
  5. me

    Tim Wise is a lunatic that hates whites and looks forward to the day that white people no longer exist. You know, I'm beginning to think that CNN is more propoganda than news.

    February 3, 2012 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
  6. scott.

    Inane bable of a warped liberal mind, someone who hates himself and will not admit it but has most good life but feels guilt over so he want to help others. I shall eat drink the water but you don't drink it. I shall ensure my kids have a good future but you can't. Thats all I hear from your mouth Mr Wise crap and crap. So until Black people name streets in their communities after a white person there is a varity of places you can bite me.....

    February 3, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Tim Wise promotes White geNOcide

    Every white country on the planet is forced to become "multicultural" and multiracial. EVERY white country is told to end its own race and culture. No one asks that of ANY non-white country. Immigration and intermarriage is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.

    Anti-whites call themselves "anti-racists", but their actions lead to the elimination of one race and only one race, my race, the white race. The true goal of anti-racism is to wipe out my race.

    It is geNOcide.

    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White

    February 3, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • C. Ray

      America is a "white"country? I'm native-American...I thought it was my country. Of course, european settlers forcibly murdered my people–THAT'S genocide.

      If you're speaking about 18th-20th century America as being "white"–may I remind you that this was the time of greatest immigration and the very core of America was the embracing of people from other countries...or is that embrace just reserved for white immigrants?

      Ok maybe you mean 21st century America–well, actually, white people are no longer the majority by terms of population. The official projections have that happening in 8 yrs (2020) but statisticians concede that if all the people counted as "white" on the census were taken out separated on the basis of how they classify THEMSELVES, right now today, white people wouldn't be a majority (currently, census data conflates "whiteness" with the inclusion of many hispanic groups [even if they check non-white–if you put mexican you are counted as white], and middle eastern people [a huge campaign was formed by and for peopleof middleeastern decent: "check it right, you aint white"].

      So in what way is america a "white" country EXCEPT in terms of the unjust hoarding of power and wealth? So if in THAT sense you want to accuse people of wanting to eradicate "white" america, then guilty as charged–proudly!

      February 3, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tim Wise promotes White geNOcide

        Africa isn't becoming non-black. African people don't have a policy of mass non-black immigration and assimilation forced upon them.

        Asia isn't becoming non-Asian. Asian people don't have a policy of mass non-Asian immigration and assimilation forced upon them.

        Yet EVERY white country has to accept a policy of mass non-white immigration and assimilation that no one ever voted for.

        The anti-whites want a mixed, blended humanity for EVERY white country ONLY White countries.

        They want white genocide.

        Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.

        February 3, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tim Wise promotes White geNOcide

        If I hated a race, I might campaign to flood all of their countries with millions of people that are not their race, and tell everyone to “mix in”, until no people of that kind were left. If anyone objected, I would scream R-word! at them and get them fired from their jobs.

        If I hated a certain race, I might do that. But I am not doing that. Anti-whites are doing it to White people in all White countries and only White countries.

        Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

        February 4, 2012 at 1:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Say it

      Then by all means, go to your 'white' countries...we would be better off if you returned to your roots.
      My ancestors were born on this continent...where are yours from?

      February 3, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Tim Wise promotes White geNOcide

    White People can never disprove we are “racist”, our very existence is seen as a form of “racism” by the so-called “anti-racists”.

    They say all things White must become “diverse” or it is “racism”.

    They say there should be no White countries, no White communities, no White schools, no White sports, no White social gatherings, etc, etc.

    The anti-Whites give us Whites two choices: Accept White geNOcide or you are a “racist”.
    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

    February 3, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Say it

      How can you disprove something you've already proven, and you personally are continuing to prove with your words here?

      February 3, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
  9. TimWise_Supports_WhitegeNOcide

    African countries for Africans,

    Asian countries for Asians,

    Israel for Jews or you’re an anti-semite!

    White countries for everyone or you’re a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews!

    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.

    February 3, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Elm Sonbig

    Around 1960, White countries opened their borders and let millions of non-Whites in.

    Then, the government and media told us all to “assimilate” or “mix together”.

    And slandered ALL White people who did not want this forced integration and assimilation of our communities and families, as "Racists".

    And now, Whites are expected to be minorities in most White countries by 2040 as predicted by the United Nations.

    If this was done to ONLY Asian countries, would you still need proof that some people are trying to permanently get rid of Asian people by blending them out of existence, AKA genocide? Would you need the newspapers or some commentator to tell you this?

    Can you see why “Anti-racism” is a codeword for anti-White?

    February 3, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
  11. The Operative

    No, white guilt is what some of the white folks on this board are experiencing, not Mr Wise. Those of you who are so violently offended by this article, deep down you know there is a problem with regards to race and equality in this country, yet you do nothing to combat it, some of you may even contribute to racial problems Mr. Wise spoke of.

    Some of you feel guilty with regards to your inaction, so in response you project outwards all the negativity you embody and blame black and brown people and white folks who are actually trying to make a difference.

    February 3, 2012 at 1:47 am | Report abuse |
    • 3rdEyeOpened

      Good point.

      February 3, 2012 at 4:58 am | Report abuse |
    • DH

      Dumb point. Your premise that we are projecting the negativity inside ourselves outward is immpossible to argue (or prove for that matter). Maybe we REALLY think this article is the crap that it is. And maybe we REALLY think that playing the race card over and over is getting old and tiresome. Maybe we REALLY think that content of character means something instead of the color of ones skin. Maybe we REALLY want to get past the affirmative action-naacp mentality that minorities are being wronged and attacked and or deprived of opportunities so let's just give them what they want. Maybe we REALLY want all to be equal, respected and self sufficient and not relying on the government for things they ought to work for. Yea, I know, it's alot to swallow. Easier to just say something stupid like 'deep down inside you know you're wrong and all that negativity is being projected outward'.

      February 3, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Bruce

    Like it or not, the single most effective thing anyone-black or white-can do to avoid being the victim of a violent crime is avoid black men. As long as that is true, race will be a determining factor in many ways.

    February 2, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kyle

      Like it or not you're a bigot stuck in the Jim Crow part of the 20th Century.

      February 3, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Nonesense. The most violent crime of all is murder. The vast majority of murders are intra-racial. So if you're white – and I assume you are – the best way to avoid being murdered is to avoid other white people. That is, according to your twisted logic.

      February 3, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      Let's take a look at the FBI Uniform Crime Rpeort for 2009. http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_43.html This shows that 69% of all people arrested that year were white. It also shows that white perpetrators outnumber blacks in most major categories. You may want to consider researching facts to support your bold statements before making them.

      February 4, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  13. dennis

    Tim suffers from white guilt. There's no reason for white guilt unless you owned your own slave. I'm quite sure that Tim has never owned a slave.

    February 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • RAD

      I don't think Mr. Wise feels guilt. In fact in hearing him speak he is quite clear about this. Recognizing a problem that you yourself may not have cause and still commiting to changing it for the better is not guilt, it is being a decent human being.

      February 3, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      Tim does not suffer from white guilt. He is a jew.

      February 3, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  14. madamelaverite

    Keep on doing what you do, Mr. Wise. Shine the light let the racist roaches run out of hiding.

    February 2, 2012 at 7:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Fortunatly, as evidenced by some of the racist comments you have made here, it seems that you are one of those roaches..

      February 2, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Ghost, I've missed you.. Bet you been busy working on those 2 master degrees from your Ivy League school. Anyway, I'll ask you again to quote an angry or racist statement I have made.. You know, a pesky fact or two to support any of the gibberish you spout.. Have they taught you that at your Ivy League school yet?

        February 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        And Ghost, you know nothing about me. You don't know whether or not I have ever done anything to help anybody, but you make assumptions. (you do know what they say about people who make assumptions don't you?) Anyway, I am a volunteer at the rescue mission in my town, I have gone on missions with my church where we helped build homes for the poor in Mexico and Brazil (really enjoyed Brazil), I routinely donate clothes and household items to the Goodwill. When I help people I don't single them out based on race, I help based on need, whatever the race. I mention these things because you have asked (not very politely by the way), not to make some point that I am any better then others. You on the other hand made it a point to let all kmow that you are an Ivy League graduate working on your 2nd masters degree, as if that would give you some sort of status.. You are an elitist hypocryt at best, and a racist liar at worst.. Have a great day.. ( I know, I know, I called you a name.. But you have finally forced me into it) 🙂

        February 3, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        Please enlighten me as to my racist comments.

        February 3, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        "You all think you are superior riding on the success of your ancestors and the privileges that have accrued to you." Here is one you made yesterday.. You lable all Whites because maybe one did or said something stupid. What is it called when you lable a whole race because of the actions of a few.. mmmmmmm

        February 3, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Here is another where you lable a whole race based on the words of one: "What hasn't changed, particularly evident from this thread and the blatantly racist, cruel and clueless comments from people with no sense of history I might add is the hearts of whites. You all think you are superior riding on the success of your ancestors and the privileges that have accrued to you." I am afraid I don't have time to find more right now, but I am sure all get the point.. Hope you have a great day.. 🙂

        February 3, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        Are you really that dumb? I'm talking about the idiots on this thread who are making cruel and racist comments. I never said anything about all white people on the face of the Earth. What I'm saying is not racist. It is pointing out racism. Two different things, which apparently some folks on THIS THREAD are extremely confused about.

        February 3, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        You made the statememnts and your response is to call me names.. You must be another of those college educated debators. If you don't agree with them you should not have made them..

        February 3, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Ahh, the Ghost strikes again.. And again fails to quote anything I have said.. You are really beginning to sound desperate..

        February 3, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Have to go, but one last comment before I leave.. I will quote you Ghost (you do know what a quote is don't ya?): "Good to see that white shame or white man's burden have compelled you to go out and help the poor of Mexico and Brazil" If you truly believe what you write, that White man's burden is the only reason a White man would help anyone, then why have you not made the same claim against Mr. Wise? Oh heck, there I go again using facts.. I'm sorry, it's a habit I have. I keep forgetting that you like to just spout gibberish with no supporting evidence.. 🙂

        February 3, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |

        KELLY I gave you a chance to prove me wrong, to speak up against specific examples of how a radical group of white racist republicans is attacking minorities in states like AZ, AL, CN. Instead of speaking against these injustices, you choose to ignore the questions and go straight into attack mode, putting down a member of a minority, trying to portray my academic achievements as elitist crimes. You should run for office with your fellow radical republicans, you sound and act just like them. Don't tip toe around and call racism racism when it is clear and in the open for all to see. If you can't stand with us here, in America, don't bother crossing the border to help us in Mexico or Brazil.

        February 5, 2012 at 11:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Ghost, I am an equal opportunity truth seeker.. I oppose racism wherever it pokes it's ugly head, and you have one ugly head. You represent the worst kind, you are educated and should know better. If an uneducated racist here spouts gibberish you should stand above it, and not bend down to their level. Instead you bend even lower and spout worse gibberish (God I love that word) then they do.. Stop the name calling, the slurs, the claims of racism at every turn. You are eductated, and you claim you educate others, you should be held to a higher standard. You are not living up to that standard..

        February 7, 2012 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
  15. GatorALLin

    ...so what if Racism is just an idea.... like any other but comes from some old survival instinct that is part of our old lizard braining thinking.... Anything that sticks out or is different we feel is a threat or risk, so we push against it. Our intelligent side of our brains can overrule the lizard brain instinct but takes some work/training/education/practice/etc. Cancer as it turns out is the bodies repair cycle that is stuck "on" and cells grow where they are not supposed to..... just another idea, but his one from mother-nature that had a bad twist to it when it does not actually help us out anymore and thus our survival DNA code may ironically kill us in that case. It is so tempting to think in old survival skill instinct ways...after all it got us to this point. Like us against them thinking. USA vs. Russia, or now USA vs. China...but we all link back to the same grandmother in Africa on some massive family tree somehow. Maybe it will take a space alien invasion to get us to all work together.... maybe some world wide project and lets hope something cool like a mission to colonize the moon (when we pay our debts back first), or get to mars and I hope it is not some giant meteor on a planet killing path that forces us to work together (or insert zombie disease metaphor joke here instead). Turns out of course that we do have these universal monsters we are fighting (hunger, lack of education, clean water, disease, etc). It will be interesting if just talking about it and reducing fear of the unknown about the perceived other side will help us all get along (thank you internet/cell phone/thisforum/etc). ....what if this idea (racism) that used to protect us..... needs to become extinct to let our evolution advance to the next level, as we all need to work together to fight the real monsters our future survival requires. Can't we all just get along? A super bird-flu or other world threat may force us to work together and get over our perceived differences that lead to racism. I hope we can appreciate it is the differences that give us value/strength/power vs. the other way around as it sure would be boring if we were all the same. Maybe having a black president who has just as many problems as a white one gets us to realize its not a black/white thing...its a problem thing now. In my eyes, your either see yourself as a problem solver, or as a victim, a doer or a complainer.... Like anyone that has something bad happen to them, I am so sorry for your pain and that was not right or fair, but don't fall trap to being a victim in the future based on your past. Now that we know better, lets all do better!

    February 2, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • vc

      bravo...We are all the same race(human).

      February 3, 2012 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
  16. JOHNNY

    The greatest tragedy in American History is that after Lincolns assasination Andrew Johnson giving in to the southern democrats and torpedoing The Reconstruction

    February 2, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackline

      Yes!!! It's nice to know at least *some* people on here actually KNOW history.

      February 4, 2012 at 7:46 am | Report abuse |
  17. BOBBY

    The greatest tragedy in American History was after Lincoln's death Andrew Johnson giving in to the southern democrats and torpedoing The Reconstruction. Just think how different our country would be if we had followed through.

    February 2, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      You are apallingly ignorant of history.
      There were NO southern democrats in power at the time of Andrew Johnson's tenure.
      I hope you are not allowed to vote – you are not competent.

      February 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
  18. SoapBoxOffice

    The word "RACISM" is being used without thought, if you cannot affect and/or inflect injustice on an individual or group you cannot be a racist. You are just prejudice, hateful, or Satan’s little servant. To be a racist implies that you have power to pass and enforce an injustice in a situation which most time affect human beings.

    February 2, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Nah, you're trying to draw a distinction that lets individuals off the hook. Racism is judging another person or group based on negative beliefs you have about that person's ethnic group or race. You don't have to have power to be racist, though if you do have power, your racism is likely to have more significant impact on others than if you don't. But the factors that give rise to racism – fear, conditioning, ignorance – are the same regardless of who the person is and the moral imperative to confront your own inherent racism is the same regardless of how much power you have.

      February 2, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
  19. DeeNYC

    Lathe of Heaven

    February 2, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Mick

    Race baiting and the blame game is getting tired as hell. Just quit crying and get on with LIFE.

    February 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |

      We will Mick, but can you please use your white power to ask border patrol to stop shooting Mexicans at the border, for hire detention center guards to stop raping women, Arizona and Alabama politicians to stop attacking our kids and their right to go to school and learn about their heritage, and Conneticut cops from harrassing minorities? Can you do that for us, Mick? When can you do this, so that we stop "race batting" and get on with our lives?

      February 5, 2012 at 11:29 pm | Report abuse |
  21. manx

    Regardless of what you may think the object of this article is to sell books.

    February 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Calionni

    It is good to see an article like this. It is so important the we keep putting this issue in peoples faces....whether they are uncomfortable or not. Racisim is alive and well especially in the work place. I believe that 400+ years of conditioning the black man and women is paying off. Not much effort has to be made to remind blacks that they should not expect to much, and be happy to have a job. I watch as unqualified whites are handed promotions while blacks with 17 years on the job are passed over. That in itself is enough to remind black employees that they should not try to get ahead. I could go on forever with this subject, but i won't.

    February 2, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • ron

      @Calionni – excuse me, the blatant racism through which you view the world is showing.

      February 2, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kotodama


        February 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • DH

      You are full of CRAP! Your post is one big lie! You do NOT know of a black person more qualified than a white who sits back and doesn't get promoted. You know why? Because they would have ran screaming and crying to the EEOC and Office of Civil Rights raising all holy hell! Give me a break! In the federal district where I practice law 90% of all NEW cases filed are race discrimination cases. Of those, more than 80% are dismissed due to not having any merit or backing of law. Of the rest of those, a majority are found for the defendant. You know why? Because as a matter of law, race discrimination cases are hard to prove and have a high legal hurdle to overcome. If you are easily offended and are constantly looking for discriminatory practices (naacp) you will find it everywhere you look.

      February 3, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stormfront

      I watch as whites with 10+ years experience and degrees are passed over for smelly, uneducated, pants around their knees n-i-g-g-e-r-s just because they're black.

      February 4, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |

        Wow. I guess is sucks to be you, so full of hate and confused. I guess things would be better for you if slavery was still ongoing, if the Civil Rights Movement had not happened, if Obama had not been elected, if Hispanics were not about to become the majority, and so on. Poor little you, the country is growing and trying to move pass its racist past and you can't keep up. Congrats on using the n word, you really showed the world the quality human being you are.

        February 5, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |
  23. hmm

    I am a black hockey player....and all I see is white!

    February 2, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Ian

    The sad part of all this is that we still cannot look past skin color. In modern society, color still helps or hinders, through means such as affirmative action, and employer bias. Its too bad that the US cannot move on and operate with a true meritocratic system. The comments just prove this.

    February 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Ian, unless you have a truly objective test for a particular job , there will never be a pure meritocratic system because there is always some subjectivity and bias. The best we can hope for is a relatively fair system that allocates unfairness fairly, if that makes any sense.

      February 2, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
  25. NaloBoi259

    Here's a solution. How about everyone stop making a big deal about this? Yeah racism may still be in existence, but we tend to think about it more when someone brings it up. right? Maybe if we just stop letting this topic bother us, racism will go away. Racism is only here because maybe people want it here. They act like they don't want it but maybe the truth is...they do. Stop feeling victimized, that is the main reason why everyone is acting racist towards each other. Stop feeling sorry for yourself just because you aren't the same race as other people. Stop feeling like the whole world hates you and your race. Stop feeling sorry for yourself that one race might have more benefits than the other. Stop bringing up issues about racism because it's racist of you to bring it up in the first place. So who's the true racist? The people who bring it up, or the people who feel victimized? Truth is, we're all considered racist in some way. If people can just grow up and stop fighting over such a dumb issue, we can forget about it. It's like children fighting over food and who should get the most of it. Fighting only to benefit themself and not everyone else. So all in all, I am saying that Racism is a selfish, childish, and dumb issue. Stop trying to benefit yourself and try benefiting the rest of the world.

    February 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ian

      Well said.

      February 2, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • EB

      I'm not sure if ignoring the issue would be the best solution. Our current understanding of racism within the United States is based on our history and the psychological effects of our past. The author, Tim Wise, is attempting to create a dialogue about our denial towards racism today. If the civil rights leaders just ignored the Jim Crow laws or the brutality many people of color faced, do you really think it would have just gone way? It's definitely a difficult topic to discuss, however its imperative that this conversation takes place. I graduated from high school in 2003 and we had two homecoming queens, a white female and a black female. Talking about racism is not about feeling sorry for oneself, but feeling the need to make changes. To learn for the mistakes of the past and improve the outlook for the future. Be a voice of change!

      February 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        At last, a voice of reason in a forest of ignorance. Thank you for your remarks.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        EB, thank you for your comments. Personally I think that what upsets many is that people like the author of this article, Mr. Wise, take it on themselves to preach to others. What I mean by that is this: Many here have complained about the White media and how it presents America as a White only place with limited Black involvement. Mr. Wise is part of that establishment and if he believes in his own words then shouldn't he be giving up his position to a person of color? He will not do that because he believes he is better then any of the rest of us. He is an "enlightened" White person, which in the world that CNN occupies is the best thing to be... No one like to be preached too, especially by those who consider themselves better..

        February 2, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Doodlebug

        Hello. When the whites and the blacks, and most other races arrived to these United States.. my ancestors were here. Now we all know what happened, we know what history told us, and we know there are so few numbers of us in existance, we are forgotten about in this racism scuffle. My father was very dark skinned, and had pitch black hair/eyes. My skin is lighter, so we look latino I suspose. I look at my calendar, and I see no day, no month, none of our great leaders birthdays being celebrated. I see no channels on TV or Radio and not even any magazines specifically for our race, which several other races made a pretty good attempt at wiping off the face of earth (this goes back to suffering). So, can you racists blacks and whites, please .. go outside, because honestly, we, the other minorities that actually believe it or not did suffer much racism, well.. we'd appreciate it if you just take it outside, duke it out, get it out of your system and ... maybe stop thinking you two are the only races that matter. We all do... but see, I like to appreciate the person for who they are, if they are black, cool, if they are white, fine .. okay if they are purple, we'll have to ask some questions about their origins from a safe distance.. but my thing is.... might not be alot of us left, but we do exist, we still are here and we'd like you to.. maybe remember us to.. okay?

        February 2, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Racism is not here because people want it here. Racism is here because a significant percentage of people are racist and most people want them to stop behaving in a racist manner, especially the people who have to confront it. Sounds like it's not a problem for you, so you don't want to talk about it. That is invariably the response of people who want to trivialize and dismiss problems that don't affect them directly. I think America's obsession with confronting racism is a good thing, even if it is annoying and sometimes counterproductive. It shows we're still striving to really put the days of hatred behind us.

      February 2, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        Maybe you should think more about it. You know what, as a black person I don't have the privilege of not thinking about race. I have to, every single day.. My very survival depends upon it. Only white people can see it as "not a big deal" because generally, race does not impact upon your life here in America.

        White people need to think about it, real long, real hard. And keep in mind, it is not about fault finding and finger pointing. it's about making it more fair. We can't make it more fair and we can't get post racial until the denial ends, until the brushing it under the rug ends. And that's where I fault white people because they want to ignore race and act like they're colorblind until Dr. Laura says some stupid sh* or Don Imus or that fat, ignoramus Rush Limbaugh opens his blow hole. Those fools are all symptoms of a much, much bigger problem. So ask yourself, how's that ignoring sh* working out? It's not.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        madamelaverite, it's about who gets to decide what is fair.. You keep saying "make things fair," but you also want to be the judge and jury on what is fair.. That is the issue, and what the discussion is basically about. There are extremists on both sides of this issue, but most on either side agree that there is/was a problem. The disagreement is mainly about that pesky word "fair."

        February 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Francisco

    I personally think learning American history is a good way to rid racism. History offers more than storytelling, cause and effect, and critical thinking. To me, the beauty of history is that we inherit, as a nation, an identity of who we are, albiet how much sun your skin gets.Thus, when we as a nation become separated by all of these variables of culture, race, religion, ideologies, etc, we all have something in common to touch bases with; we're Americans. [enter list of achievements here]

    February 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Joshua H

    It is true what he writes. I am a young black male. I will be attending University of Washington for doctoral work biomedicine. When I sit in college classes there are only white persons in all my classes. I am usually the only black person in my classes. Sometimes I feel like when I speak all eyes are on me. sometimes I am disturbed that there are not more blacks in school. It makes me feel alone at time. People want to talk about a post racial society. A post racial society will be one where magazine are not graced by thin, beautifully made up white women, but of of men and women of all different races. Hollywood is just another reflection of America. We are not okay with a black women playing a lead role in a major motion picture unless her skin is very close to white.Or if the movie is based on race. All faucets of our society are mainly occupied by white people, but at the same time, white people in America have always been in a position to gain opportunities that blacks have not always had. but I also feel like there is a declining sense of black culture, that black people are forgetting what we had to do to gain rights, and that they are not taking the past and pushing forward. I feel like blacks are complacent with where we are. Yes we face less racism openly, but we are not coming together as a community and helping one another, and often times blaming whites. How is it that latin americans, arab americans, and other immigrants come to american and work together? Maybe we as blacks are to complacent with the progress we have gained thus far. I feel like we can do better. I volunteer with juvenile delinquent kids and most are black, but I feel like I'm the only one trying to change my community. It sad to say that in my endeavors career wise my cohorts will often times be white, which is fine, but to have other black men and women studying science in the same way as me will let me know that I'm not some sort of "exception" to some unspoken rule, but that I am just like everyone else. Just another student going to school studying, not looked at for the color of my skin.

    February 2, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • lol

      Get over yourself....really

      February 2, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      The fact that black people are only ~10% of the US population, it's no surprise that of your small cohort of graduate students, you are the only black person. haha. Seriously... get over yourself.

      February 2, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        Twelve point two percent, actually.

        February 2, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Irritated

        @lol and matt

        I believe the point that he is trying to make is that it is sad to see promotion of "post-racial" when America itself is not "post-racial." Call me biased when I say that I am black, but I have seen this. For the past eleven years of my life (in which I have lived in three different states; Missouri, Virginia, and Ohio), I have lived in predominantly white neighborhoods and gone to predominantly white schools and I always can tell, these people are rich or upper middle class. How can I tell? The classrooms are white. It has been proven in a study that people of a darker skin tone are economically and educationally at a disadvantage than those of a fairer skin tone. I have experienced living in black neighborhoods and I have seen the poverty and absolute hopelessness they experience. These kids who are geniuses are forced to go to terrible public schools because their parents (or parent) is too poor to move to a district where the education is better, do not have enough money to buy a computer (isn't that a shocker, a child with no access to the Internet or even a computer), cannot go to college because they have no opportunities to apply for a scholarship (no computer remember, especiallly since applying for colleges is online-based) and is forced to live out their lives working a low-paying job and all of their potential is wasted. Is it a wonder there are not many black people in graduate school? Without the proper OPPORTUNITY, a person cannot reap the benefits of America. And are we not the land of EQUAL opportunity? Therefore, we have completely forgotten what we have stood for as an American society. And as for lol's comment about him getting over it? It has only been approximately fifty years since the passing of the Civil Rights Voting Act and other Civil Right laws and even less time since we have started to shy away from being racist. You obviously do not understand what this means. It means racisim is real and alive. Just because we have turned our face away racism does not mean it exists. It has shaped every aspect of America and expecting it to disappear is impossible and illogical. The only way to cure a cancer is to WILLFULLY destroy it. And the same with racism. The only way to destroy it is to kill it willfully. I am not asking for a complete destruction of racism, because I know it is impossible. But I am asking for a society where racism is as minimal as possible. For race is only a difference of melanin in the skin. A child knows not to treat a white dog better than a black dog, so we must be with people. Just because a person is black, white, Asian, Arab, Indian, Hispanic, etc., does not mean that they should be treated badly, but that they are different. By the way, I am fifteen years old and a sophmore in high school. Shocked? All I have to say is I was lucky to have educated parents who made sure that I grew up educated, opinionated, and well-versed in politics, ethics, and history.

        February 2, 2012 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Doodlebug

      Joshua H – You are aware HBCU's exist? Funded by the government? Look up the phrase please. And btw there are many many very nice TV Stations, Shows, Magazines that have very beautiful african american people gracing them. One of my favorite is owned by a talk show host, a woman I think is truely amazing. See, the thing is, you only have yourself to blame if you feel held back. No excuses, no walls should keep you from your goals.

      February 2, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
  28. EmmaHarrell

    Please don't try to have a conversation with someone who need to put you down to feel that he is above you.

    February 2, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Ken

    Now more than ever the whites are being the one being judged..

    February 2, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Kotodama

      And rightly so.

      February 2, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Jeffery Wood

    Racism goes both ways. Why is it that the "white People" are the racists? I actually see the black race separating themselves from everyone else..., so let's look at a few things: Black actress/actor's awards, black colleges / fraternities, black college funding, black television, black magazines..When will America (again) see Black drinking fountains?

    February 2, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      I think that now... The tables have turned and it is the opposite!! Now people of color are tended too more than the white race. Dedicated t.v. shows, dedicated months, dedicated minority check boxes on applications.. Your right it is not post-racism it is racism towards whites.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
      • vc

        Really....When people tend to do someone wrong to the point it is a shame before god, the tendency is to try and right the wrong the best you can. Racism toward whites is a far stretch. People of color literally create wealth from scratch, but there are plenty of white families who have a 400 year head start. Many times you need money to create more money, unless you have a truly unique skill set.

        February 2, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bianca

      All of these things were put in place BECAUSE black people were (and still ARE) shunned from their mainstream counterparts. It is such a feat for a black actor or actress to even get cast in a role that is worthy of an Oscar and if they are lucky enough to be nominated, they either don't win or they win just because they're the black sweetheart of the year (Jennifer Hudson did not deserve an Oscar for Dreamgirls) and it allows the academy to overlook black actors and actress for a couple more seasons.

      Black fraternities and sororities? Seriously? I may say this because I go to University of Georgia, but what the hell do I look like joining a white sorority with racist daddies and probably racist national leaders. Every year I watch maybe three to five black girls from the dorm I work in participate in rush and maybe one gets into what I consider the nicer, less party oriented sororities where the girls are sweeter and don't feel the social pressure against having one token black girl. Because some of the white fraternities, to this day, will refuse to have socials with sororities who have black members. I play token black girl enough just by attending classes, I don't want to feel tokenized in a group about "sisterhood."

      Black universities were created when black people were not admitted to white universities so that blacks could still receive a higher education. They created a legacy and were not just going to shut down because blacks were allowed into regular universities so clearly since they still exist, they still need funding.

      How many black leading role characters do you see on television every night? Exactly. I don't mean the black best friend. I mean the leading role.

      Again, there was a lack of representation of black people in magazines so black people created our own so that we could get advice for our hair textures, our body shapes, and skin care for our skin type. I don't even support mainstream magazines unless there is a black person on the cover because they are still not for me.

      February 2, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Franklin

        Who are you to judge????

        February 2, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Doodlebug

        You have your facts mixed up. HBCU's are funded by the goverment, they are not ran by private funds.

        February 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Casey

      I hope we never see black water fountains again.

      February 2, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • MrDo_WELL

      And y were these things created? Because blacks were excluded. So, they decided to create their own forms of media, education, and entertainment. These weren'tt some radical racial ideas, it was because of white america's exclusion. Come on man, don't make it so easy. That comment was just ignort..lol

      February 6, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
  31. vc

    Racism has been around longer than America. We are about as unique to racism as breathing is to every human. This world is evil and Racism/AKA division and seperation is one of its tools.

    February 2, 2012 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
  32. Daniel

    Here's his "letter" from November 2010. Judge it for yourself.


    By the way, the election in question resulted in more African-Americans in Congress than there had been in the previous Congress.

    February 2, 2012 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  33. Mrs Lopez

    For those of you in denial of racism in America Let me share something with you. I was born and raise in NYC second generation "New Yoricans" a term given to all those Pueto Rican's that live in NYC. After experiencing much discrimination I decided to make a social experiment, the next time I needed to filled out an application I was going to list White as my race. The day came and I did as planned at a government agency. As I handed my application to the teller she looked at me and blatantly told me that I couldn't check that race box that I was either AA or Hispanic but not White.
    When I asked her why not, she just responded "Because you are not white". Granted I dont have blue/green eyes or blond hair I was born in this country. Now, why is it ok for other to be called Americans even first generation immigrants from Italy,Germany,China, and others but not a Pueto Rican or any other Hispanic? If this is not racism then what is? America has and always would be racist!

    February 2, 2012 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Voliza

      You're saying it should be completely acceptable to lie on applications? Also, filling out those boxes are completely voluntary. If there was some benefit to checking off the 'white' box, I should've found a job a long time ago. There's actually more of a push for employers to hire minority workers instead of whites. My husband works at a machine shop that hired one black man as a janitor because the government forced him to. It's not to say he wouldn't hire one to run machines had they been qualified, but no one ever is. The token black guy is lazy, and knows he won't be fired or the company will be reprimanded for not having minority workers. He gets away with everything while the others do not. Check your facts.

      February 2, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
      • RTB

        Oh give us a break about the fictional "token lazy black at my husbands's job." That guy can't be all that lazy since the same guy is working several thousands jobs to hear you bigots tell it.

        I have been out of school and working in various companies and I have never come across this stereotyped individual. yet every right wing bigot happens to have one at their job, just to justify their bigotry. At my job, I have seen whites who basically abandoned their jobs and never showed up and still got paid because it's so difficult to fire them. Lots of people game the system, the vast majority of them white. How many able bodied whites have I seen on Judge Judy sitting around collecting social security disability because of some minor accident? Too many to count.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Erica

        You don't know the situation, therefore those are all accusations. You have to be highly educated to work where he does, and the employees make over $30/h. It's not the kind of job you 'walk out on', especially not in an economy like this. Speaking of bigots, are you not doing the same thing you accuse me of? Get over yourself, and learn to use words in the proper context, smart a**.

        February 2, 2012 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Doodlebug

      A few weeks ago I filled out an application. It said black, white, latino. I am Native American Indian – what DO I put? My hair is black, my eyes are very dark and my skin is medium dark, brown when I get in the sun. I only respond because it seems many of the whites and the blacks responding are so busy fighting each othey they are blind to the plight of the other minorities. As I said below, we struggled to, we were very closely exterminated. No holidays, no months, no leaders birthdays exist for us. So can some of you stop for a moment pointing at yourself saying life is unfair for your race only and maybe.. notice us too? Honesty when I say I am Native American Indian, people act like pure no longer exists. Even if I was 1/2, that stil counts – well it does if your 1/2 of other races right? Sorry but I don't buy into this article, I believe many are biased, but there are laws in place, and people for us to report issues to. So do it. While I'm here, I want to report the lack of a day for us... can someone do something about it? And NO Thanksgiving is not our day. Thank you.

      February 2, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        I haven't forgotten, I don't know about anyone else. The greatest crime in this land was perpetrated against the Native people. In fact, as I understand it was the native people the whites initially tried to enslave but their diseases proved too much. You have to understand, though. Blacks and whites in america are very closely affiliated. We're literally family in many cases. The only other people blacks mixed with more in America were the native people.

        February 2, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Even if your story is true, it makes no sense. She said you couldn't check the "White" box because you were Hispanic, but you morphed that into her saying you were not American.. If your gonna make up stories you need to proof read them before you post..

      February 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Daniel

    More on Tim Wise at
    and his history of threats and false accusations

    February 2, 2012 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
  35. Mrs. Balkcom

    It's sad and pathetic to read the degree of ignorance from some of the commenters. It seems the average white person feeds into stereotypes and media propaganda. The black people commenting seem to feel a need to prove that all of us black people are not these horrible leeches of society. There is no to prove anything to white people . They are mad because some black people are poor and unmotivated to improve their lives and they are mad if you further yourself because you must have had it handed to you because of affirmative action.

    February 2, 2012 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Magenta

      To Mrs. Balkcom:

      I mean no disrespect to you. I don't know you as a person so please don't think I'm attacking you. But I gotta say...

      Why would you think only white people would be blind to racism? I am a white woman and I myself (surprise surprise) have experienced loads of racism, not to mention all the racism I have seen with my own two eyes. So before you start pointing the finger at white people (who do have a track record of being racist too long to ponder, I'm ashamed to say) maybe you should ask yourself if you are racist for assuming all the racism is coming from white people. Racism isn't defined as a white person hating a black person, its defined as 1. The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as... 2. Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief. Does it say anything about white or black in there, or is it all in your head?

      I'm certainly not saying there are no white racist people left in today's society (unfortunately) but to think that all white people are not only racist but have no idea they are racist is totally ignorant and I am sick of reading this kind of slander on chats.

      All I am trying to say is that not all white people are racist, and to think so makes the thinker a racist.

      Thank you

      February 2, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
      • Voliza

        Well said! Thank you.

        February 2, 2012 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
      • Jeffery Wood

        Well said Magenta.

        February 2, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Magenta, very well said.. It is nice to see some reason on this subject. Too many idiots on both sides..

        February 2, 2012 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        How have you experienced racism? Curious.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        A quote from the Ghost above: "a large percentage of the white people who vote seem to very backwards in their thinking and are not on the right side of most issues" A very good example of a racist comment. He generalizes an catorgizes a large percentage of White people based on mmmmm.. nothing.. Most of the people who voted for President O'bama were White, ohh heck that's one of those pesky "facts" that the Ghost likes to ignore.. 🙂

        February 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Travis S

        when is the last time we voted on a civil rights issue....yeah i thought so! What are you talking about with Arizona and Alabama, do you have any clue? Those issue's should be important to all Americans, regardless of skin color. So if you don't think those issue are important you need to recheck your "AMERICAN VALUES" and if you don't care, then don't comment. Further more, half of you have no clue what your talking about. Two wrongs can never make a right. But thats what we do everyday when we give minorities advantages everyday soley based on skin color, that is not a society conducting istelf in an unbiased manner, not by a long shot. Another major problem, well two others, are that minorities (blacks specifically) are not proud of their history (recent, distant, famlily, childhood, etc.) but they should be, even hardships are something to be proud of, because it makes 'ALL' of us stronger as individuals, it gives each person hope when that little voice in there head says "you have made it through much worse". But Black Americans, for the most part, are not taught this, (not White Americas fualt). White children on the other are taught this, and flaunt it on a regular basis and we are sene as racist because of it. You have to understand it is exptremely important for children to be proud of who they are and where they come from (hillbilly/redneck, city slicker, bible belt, rust belt, etc.) Secondly, people can argue all day about the work place and employemnt (whites being picked over blacks) bottom line, if you cannot conduct yourself in a PROFFESIONAL MANNER, during interviews, at the work place, ect. you will not be able to get or keep a job. And don't bring up that these are social, and cultural identifiers, that difine a people and we should take that into account, and if we don't we are being racist. Proffesionalism within the workplace has absolutely zero to do with who you are as a person outside of the workplace. Adjust to this or stay unemployed, asking somone to lower their standards might be how they do things in Brazil or Canada, but that is not how we do it here in the Ole U S of A!

        February 3, 2012 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Haaaaa.. Ghost, not sure when you posted this, but I just read it. I see that you are still living in dream land. You seem to know so much about me, but have never even met me. Just because you imagine things in your mind does not make them true. I have never said any of the things you claim. Now I do make fun of you for posting about your education.. Come on, that was so juvenile.. Trying to impress everyone because you claim to be an Ivy league student with two masters degrees.. You on the other hand cannot get over the fact that someone, especially a White person, would dare to ask you for proof of your many ridiculous statements.. If you are the academic you claim to be, why will you not follow simple debate rules and list your sources or list your quotes? You instead call me names like a child, a racist child at that.

        February 3, 2012 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Diana

      You are so right Mrs Balkom. I am white and I am also saddened to see how many white commentators are buying into the old racist right wing stereotypes of blacks. Yes there are black individuals who are unmotivated and irresponsible but there are also white individuals who are the same; and by the way, who among us, black or white, can say we have never made a choice in life that we later regretted?

      February 2, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  36. mac

    you all are morons, its all b.s. y'know like declaring victory in vietnam , iraq or afghanistan an just going home. racism will always be one form or another, like i'm better than you cause whatever, its all b.s. blacks ain't never got over being black every thing is about black this or black that an mexicans want everyones jobs an whites are to stupid to know their screwed. we all bleed red an gonna die none of this will matter when your dead. jus get over your stupid race crap. in combat when crap is blowing up all ariound you an the bullets are flying there is no racial crap get it? get over yourself

    February 2, 2012 at 9:24 am | Report abuse |
  37. Liz

    Racism is present in uneducated neighborhoods of all nationalities, whether you are the racist or the victim of the racism. I have lived all over the US and have experienced “racism”. Most of the time what people claimed to be racism was just them trying to manipulate a situation in their favor and make noise. I am not naïve in thinking that there is no racism in the US but it is my belief and experience that it is concentrated in poor neighborhoods, where people have not taken advantage of the American education system and feel that they need to lay blame for their situation on someone other than themselves, whether that means claiming that a certain type of people is to blame or claiming that their skin color is to blame. It is very sad that racism has become a scape goat and tool for manipulation for so many people but I hope it is just a step along America’s path to becoming post-racial although it may take another 50 to 100 years for us to hear the end of it.

    February 2, 2012 at 8:23 am | Report abuse |
  38. Jr

    I find it hard to believe white women who don't believe in discrimination. There are discriminated just as bad as minorities. Many companies disregard their opinions, wouldn't hire them in available positions, and certain industries would never consider them despite their background and credentials. The military is probably the best industry when it comes to diversity. Slowly but surely minorities are working inching our way to equality, but in every country in the world majority looks at the minorities differently. Doesn't make it right but it's the truth. Except maybe Canada. Not French Canada though haha. I just hate when people clump classism with racism.

    February 2, 2012 at 7:38 am | Report abuse |
    • syed

      Muslim paki girl in love with American soilder


      February 2, 2012 at 8:16 am | Report abuse |
  39. simon

    I found many white majority who are willing to fight against brutal racism but not their own temptation to embrace covert, injustice system, mythifying Colin Powell and Barak Obama stories as proof of post-racial era. As a minority, I am not worry about thieves too much. I am worrying about the darkness in which thieves can do their work. Pleas stop spreading darkness, if you do it now. If you are not in the process of problem solving, you are the problem.

    February 2, 2012 at 3:22 am | Report abuse |
  40. The Operative

    The ignorant responses by some of the white folks to this article are a clear indication of the serious problems quite clear and present in the United States. Disgusting beyond belief, you all expressing such enthusiastic hate and clearly lacking any ability to express yourself beyond the malignant protozoan mentality you clutch to because of your fear of the other and anyone not like you. You all should be ashamed of yourselves...

    February 2, 2012 at 2:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      No need to be selective Mr. Operator.. Many ignorant post by non-whites also.. They should all be ashamed..

      February 2, 2012 at 2:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Voliza

        I agree! Lots of ignorance on this page. It seems to me people just aren't willing to let racism die. It gives them an excuse when they do poorly and takes responsibility off themselves. Quit blaming everyone else for your issues. I don't need to feel guilty that I'm white and you're black. If you want equality, quit pointing out your differences.

        February 2, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
  41. electroguy

    This author suffers from some form of white guilt. Its apparent that he has never visited a juvenile court, a violence court, a drug court, listened to rap music, visited a ghetto neighborhood, investigated the drop out rate in the black community, investigated that school funds come from taxes paid within the local community or any number of 'touch points' where he could get a good view of the black experience.

    I have watched black leaders, literally rip off their own people. The Jesse Jacksons, Marcus Garveys and Al Sharptons, who have loaded up on the largess that they have taken by 'selling' the hate and racism to every new generation that comes along. I have watched these people live in their own form of self imposed servitude to these people while they get poorer and Jesse and their lot gets richer. And you know what? You tell them they are being ripped off and they call YOU racist.

    Good luck on finding your post-racial american in the world of hate that you have built for yourself.

    February 2, 2012 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Stashu

      Are you trying to say this doesn't happen in white neighborhoods. Have you watched "The Fighter" do you know that story was based pretty much in an all white neighborhood and they had the exact same issues you want to claim are black issues. Its not black or white, its class issues. Its being down and not knowing how to pull yourself out. It is the inability of others to help pull you out by offering you a job because they don't like your brother, your neighborhood, where went to school, where you live... Its a community & class issue not black, white or asian. Its about having perseverance and confidence in yourself and the ability to go against the norm/peers. Its about having the tools ($, guidance).....

      February 2, 2012 at 6:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Jr

        I've been bless to have both parents in my life. Never rich but had the guidance. I've been in both world for high school due to my father being in the military, all white schools in the suburbs(Murrieta, CA) and all black schools in the hood(Algiers, New Orleans). Family is the best policy to make social mobility possible.

        February 2, 2012 at 7:46 am | Report abuse |
      • LISA C

        Very well said!!!!!!!

        February 2, 2012 at 8:15 am | Report abuse |
      • Voliza

        Then clean up your community and get some class. What's the issue? The communities where this nonsense is occurring need to come together and make changes. Quit expecting the government to do it for you. That only escalates the problem. Years ago, people could take care of their own issues. A grocery store in GA used to pay their black workers less than their white workers. 90% of the customers were black. The black customers boycotted the store and shopped elsewhere. You bet the owner raised the black employees wages to get his business back! We don't need government interference to solve all of our problems. We need ingenuity and motivation which is sorely lacking in these communities.

        February 2, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  42. scott.

    say the world was going to end in a week and the only one's who could stop it are 5 scientist who happen to be white. Most people would throw there support behind them but liberals would point out that they are all white and why are there not any people of color? It's the first thing that comes to there mind. I wonder if they look at there own families and say why are my kids not black we need to diversify our family. so they would adopt a kid from Africa but they would probally loos eit if the kid was white.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:18 pm | Report abuse |
  43. scott.

    Tim I think your a loser and your should kill yourself for the betterment of humanity. Also I am getting tired of hearing about how privilliaged i am because I am white which is no fault of my own. Further more how do you expalin poor white people yes they do exist. No one has ever given me a damn thing in my life so you can plug up your bleeding heart.

    February 1, 2012 at 11:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • William Nye

      Wow, shows how much of an idiot you are.

      February 2, 2012 at 12:10 am | Report abuse |
      • scott.

        Wow an insult from some faceless internet user on a crappy cnn chat forum, whatever will I do and how will my ego recover hey wait it just did. I being honest you want to talk about race then white liberals must subtract themselves from the equation. They see racism every where even in there corn flakes. I am not saying it does not exist I am saying I don't think Mr Wise has everyone's best interest at heart. You can't take away from segement of the population to favor another, and white people are becoming a minority then I want me some affirmative action since it benefits minorities......how do you respond to that Mr Wise?

        February 2, 2012 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Delusional

    On average, over 70% of one's wealth is transmitted from parent to child, not earned. And having wealth allows you to build more wealth thus perpetuating the cycle. Historically, whites have had greater access to wealth building opportunities and have amassed wealth while blacks and other minorities were excluded by law and practice (i.e. GI bill, redlining, interest rates, jobs, etc.). The PBS special Race: The Power of an Illusion Part 3 does a good job of explaining this. So these disparities couldn't be closed even if all Blacks and Latinos worked 24 hours a day because you need money to make money and they weren't fortunate enough to have grandparents who could by homes, get good interest rates, live in wealthy white neighborhoods, go to prestigious universities, etc to amass wealth and pass it on.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Yes, people like the Kennedys might fit your description of White privelege. They got it, and they want to keep it. But the over whelming majority of Whites do not fit your stereotype. They did not inherit anything, they worked like everyone else.. And I'm not sure Hispanics are a good example for you to point out. So many of them are recent immigrants that if they suffered discrimination at all it would have been at the hands of the elite in their country of origin.. But wait, we can't say that because those elites would be Hispanic themselves.. All bad guys in this racial discussion should be White, otherwise Mr. Wise is out of a job..

      February 1, 2012 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        White skin privilege applies to all whites of every class and income level. You have it because you are the majority in this nation that was founded on the backs of people of color. If a white, working class convict is considered before a black, working class convict, that is privilege. If white people are what you see 24/7 depicted in media and entertainment, that is also privilege. It's not the money you have; it's sociocultural privilege. Just like men have privilege over women, whites have privilege according to skin color over people of color. Get it?

        February 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Thank you Mr. madamelaverite for taking the time to educate me, until you posted I was unaware of how much I didn't understand. Both Senators from my state are female, my President is Black, the music I listen too is sung by overwhelmingly Black artists, my favorite sport (football) is dominated by Black athletes, three of the movies in my top ten list have Black actors as the main characters, etc etc.. mmmm, few White males in that particular group, but until you came along I just didn't realize how wrong I was about things..

        February 2, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  45. jim

    US is a good place to work and throw out your garbage.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Racist Elmo

    put two 5 year old children in a room to play( one black and one white). put one toy in the room, leave them alone and they will either get along fine playing together or even if they fight over the toy they will learn to share with each other. Bring their parents into the room and in becomes a race war. Does anyone see a problem with this?

    February 1, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • LISA C

      We teach our kids to hate...Kids play together and get along well...look at the parents at the Westboro Church. They teach there kids if you are not a memeber of there church, you're eveil and should die. What is wrong with adults, why cant we be like kids!!!

      February 2, 2012 at 8:21 am | Report abuse |
  47. jim

    When I am abroad, I make sure to badmouth the US as much as possible. I tell everyone how racist Americans are, and how they judge you only for your skin color and not your actions. I tell them how I hope that American power and influence begin to decline.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • BrazilianMom

      Jim your awesome me and my husband feel the same way.......

      February 1, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |

        Then stay in Brazil.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Actions speak louder then words.. When your abroad you could always just stay abroad, but evidently you do not..

      February 1, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |

      Then you come back to the U.S.A. and resume living off of welfare?

      February 1, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      it is no longer a leader in the world but a circus. it's been in decline for the last 25yrs we are in the abyss im just waiting until there is no light to see anymore.

      February 2, 2012 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
  48. Joe

    Its so easy to start a new racial word that will be banned. Start referring to blacks as 13 percenters and see how fast its banned.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
  49. jim

    Viva Mexico! Un pueblo noble.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
  50. D.S.

    I want racism to end. Is that too much to ask? I am white and middle-aged, and this issue matters to me.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • madamelaverite

      What are you doing to make that happen? If it's just wishing it away or ignoring it, you're doing it wrong.

      February 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  51. jim

    I look forward to the decline of the US. You bigots and haters deserve each other.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Voliza

      Hey now, that's not fair. Not all of us deserve what's going on in this country. The problem is the people of good conscience have remained silent too long and allowed all of this to happen.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Francisco

      I would have said I look forward to the decline of Brazil, but Ayrton Senna already died.

      February 2, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Joe

    Black posters will be right eventually but not how they believe. The melting pot of America will have turned all of the children of mixed breeding white. All males of all colors want white women. Eventually all races in America look white.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Actually, they'll look light brown.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        No. They will keep breeding with white people until they are totally white.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • BrazilianMom

      I am afro brazilian and my husband is european and our two daughters are really light brown with curly hair.........guess you failed the color blending part in pre-k......and i see more white men chasing latin women....love when yall try to speak spanish and dance salsa.....its so cute lol

      February 1, 2012 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Now strech that out two generations. i guess you fail reading. i said eventually.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • jim

        Exactly. So many of us white guys are sick of the USA that we are looking for foreign wives. We feel much more patriotism toward other countries than our own. For me, the US is a place to work and throw out my garbage. Americans are some of the most racist people on earth.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        And people such as Jim top the list of obnoxious Americans..

        February 1, 2012 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        Im afro-american and Im getting ready to go chase me some afro-latinas yes love the latin culture. There is no culture in the U.S.

        February 2, 2012 at 12:45 am | Report abuse |
      • scott.

        But Brazillians speak portuguese so what is your point ya'll?

        February 2, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Report abuse |

      You mean blacks will move up the evolutionary scale?

      February 1, 2012 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Its amazing what a little neanderthal dna will do.

        February 1, 2012 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • jbro

      damn right i love stealin your white women

      February 2, 2012 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
    • NoCal

      That is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever read. First, everyone doesn’t want white women. Two, there is no anthropological evidence that children would become white over generations. What happens if a child of a black and white parent marries say an African or dark South American person. The offspring would not become lighter….

      February 2, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        Genes for dark skin, eyes and hair are dominant. Genes for light skin, eyes and hair are recessive. That means that mixing over time will result in darker not lighter people. My guess is, eventually everyone will look Chinese if anything.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
  53. jon

    If Blacks ever admit that race is behind us then they would all have to stand on their own merits, apparently they aren'e ready to do that yet. The race crutch is just too powerful and adicting to give up

    February 1, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • awoody4words

      Your stance proves the authors point – when a Black persons views(right or wrong) are marginalized to the point of being called a crutch, race card, etc...then honest dialogue cannot happen. Are there blacks that wrongly use race as an excuse? (yes) Are there whites targeting Blacks in (employment, justice system, healthcare, education) -YES..knee jerk reaction is just what the author is talking about.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • madamelaverite

      If whites ever have to admit that racism is why the enjoy the privileged position that they do, they will have to stand on their own merits and realize that they aren't superior to people of color (everyone else) after all.

      February 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • GMHatcher

      The crutch that i have noticed being used most often is the internet...my race should be of no concern to you what I do as a human being should be. The fact that I can can spew ignorance and hate anonymously and have hundreds of people support me should be of concern to you. That these ignoble thoughts are in my heart should be of concern to you because this is what I will spread.
      But if i am a good person and willing to help the color of my skin shouldn't matter. If I get up everyday and go to work and pay my taxes... or not should be of no concern to you. That I can be thrown into a category because I am a person of color or a woman or 4'2" should be of concern to you because the same boxes that you assume others live in are the same ones built around you.
      I am neither saddened by or excessively proud of the things that my people did or are doing because those are their accomplishments or failures not mine.
      Whenever I travel and even here at home I have people asking me what am I and the answer is always the same ...
      "I'm American " And everywhere I am I always ask myself "Did I do the right thing?"
      So now it's your turn to ask yourself by buying into and helping to spread the assumption that all people of color need a crutch ...Did you do the right thing?

      February 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
  54. awoody4words

    For all of you using the term 'liberal' I'd liek to ask- exactly what is a liberal? Helping someone in need is a bad thing? The term is used to divide..period; Black vs. White, Rich vs. Poor etc...it's not racist just divisive..which is all that is needed to turn this great country into a 3rd world country..The Rush Limbaughs and Glenn Becks of this world make MILLIONS spewing coded hate and fear everyday..with millions of followers. Now Rush is a known drug abuser, but he gets a pass..why? Because whites like Limbaugh have figured out a simple truth... 'keeping them afraid keeps me rich'.. now there a many whites that are disgusted by Limbaugh..but ther are many that cheer him and his racist views on.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      dont forget Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Lewis Farakhan, NAACP, Congressional Black Cacus, Cornel West, Michael Dyson, should I name more Im black so if you want to call them out lets call them all out. And those white blue-eyed demonic liberals are behind the divide.

      February 2, 2012 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        Please don't put Lewis Farrakhan in the same category as Dr. West or the others. He is a hate mongerer.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Rohan

    I am black and proud and will always be. However, to denied the truth that American is post racial is an illusion. I am an educated black man who have never been to jail, don't smoke or get drunk, father of two children, and held stable jobs. There are times i have been an interview for jobs that i have the credentials to match and i didnt get the job mainly because i am black. Other instances, white females clintched to their hand bags when a black man walks by them especially in the mall; it's something i noticed compared to white men. At time even in restaurants we are treatedd differently (not every where though). In my opinion, i dont think black people is racis. I think thats virtually imposible. I think we are defensive as well as truamatized (lots of frustration building up internally). While there is alot of rap negativity, the media focus too much on, an effort to over shaddow great black acheivement. For ex., the first sucessful art surgry was done by a black doctor, the clock and calender black invention, traffic light black invention, and lots more that was stolen from black and patent by white folks. The are black entreprenurs, the black formers were discriminated against and failed to survived in the agricultural sector. Blacks were denied getting into colleges; still happening today.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • jim

      How do you know that I didn't get the job because I'm white?

      February 1, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greg

      Maybe spelling, grammar and punctuation were the reasons you didn't get the job.

      February 2, 2012 at 12:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Voliza

      Did the hiring manager tell you that you didn't get the job because you are black or are you just assuming that? I've applied for jobs that I had credentials for and didn't get them. Maybe someone with more experience and better credentials than you applied. You have to remember we are in an economic decline, and many highly educated people are without jobs. Of course it only makes sense a more qualified candidate would be hired over you and me. I'm a white college graduate, and I've been denied for many, many, many jobs in recent years.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |

    Mr. Wise – Interesting article but anyone can quote studies to support their view either way.

    I'm white. My fiance is not. Who cares? Ignorance and racism, regardless of skin color, is ret**ded, and I think most of us, as Americans, can agree on that.

    I'm one of the few white people in my neighborhood and I haven't had any issues. I think ~40% of you commenters should be ashamed of yourselves. Treat people with respect and you'll be respected in turn. I feel like I'm talking to children and disgusted to see come of these comments. Be proud to live in the US but don't be proud of your skin color, whatever the shade...once we realize that, we'll be post-racial.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |


      February 1, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Report abuse |
  57. jim

    No, but I am tired of being insulted for being white. I owe you nothing. If you had your way, you'd steal me blind because of my whiteness. That's why I would like to emigrate to another country where white people are not the constant targets of insult.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Jim, it's a free country. So emigrate. You may find that in an all-white country, the concept of whiteness gives way to distinct ethnicities that matter to people, but maybe you'll be happier.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • jim

      Actually, I lived in Mexico for nearly 4 years, and I was treated with respect. I was treated far better in MX than I was ever treated in the USA. I look forward to the decline of the US.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
  58. American like you

    First all of the Blacks (yes blacks, you are American i don't go around calling my self European American), that use the excuse that my family tree some how gos back to doing your family wrong, STOP and think, my family like MANY others did not even get to this country untill well after slavery. ITS NOT MY FAULT. Now why is the same hatred not against other blacks, you know theones that were free and slave owners them selves, or the tribes that captured fellow Africans and sold them into slavery to Europeans, or last the ones that freely formed their own regiment for the south in the civil war. Instead hate and blame all whites for the 1% of whites that were slave owners. Yes there is racism because it is kept alive by people like this "writer" and how you seperate your selves with all the black only groups. You have all the chances in the US if not more, scholar ships just for the fact of being a different race, even though like me your American, and employment recruiting because the company has to have at least so many ethnicities, even though like me you are American. I don't look at people based on skin tone, though it is forced down our throughts every day, but worth of life. If you try and improve yourselves every day in some way reguardless of welth and live with some kind of morals you are deserving of respect. If being a gang banger, womanizer, white Supremacist, or just a social misfit you deserve to be looked down on. So ill end like this it not my fault stop grouping all whites in one group.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • anny

      If you have a roof over your head in this country you are still benefiting from slavery days – many of the big companies still here, employing people made their millions with slaves doing their work back in the 1800s – that is when they amassed their fortunes. Even Brown University has made an apology for slavery, which made them rich. It does not matter 'when you came here.' You are benefiting materially from slavery days and from the genocide of native Americans too. The land you stand on was stolen. Black people built your white house and were denied equal protection under the law until very recently.

      February 2, 2012 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Voliza

      No one, not even 1% of whites today used to be slave owners. Ancestors of some whites owned slaves, but the people today obviously did not. I'm not defending slavery, but we need to think about this for a second. I live in Virginia and there are many plantations still standing with slave houses on the property. Many of these slave houses are built better than homes today! Many slaves were educated, and contrary to popular belief, they were rarely physically abused. Why would you abuse and not feed your workers? An underfed abused worker would be practically useless. Also, I believe the primary reason for owning slaves in the first place is the HEAT. In case no one noticed, the south is incredibly HOT. Europeans are not used to that type of weather, Africans ARE. Like I said, I'm not defending it because no one should be able to own another person as property.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
      • Layla

        You are official delusional.
        Slaves are not 'workers'. Workers have rights, slaves do not. Slaves were treated as property.

        Stop reading those history books from Texas. Not everything is a damn Disney movie.

        There is plenty of evidence that slaves were routinely abused. Working 16- f&*(&ing hours a day 6 days a week most of your life is abuse.

        February 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • madamelaverite

      Racism is not kept alive by this writer. It is kept alive by those who continue to hold racist ideas and perpetrate racist acts. Also, just because your family came after slavery doesn't mean you don't enjoy the privilege position of a white person in America that was made possible by slavery. This isn't your fault, but what I will fault you for is ignorance. That is your fault. Get educated before you start spouting your mouth off.

      February 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Dustin

    White females are desperate for black men and they are desperate to have black children. That shows that whites are a doomed race, their women have rejected them and happily disown their families and become poor with a jobless black man just to have his children. They are instantly in love with black males and are willing to die and throw away their lives to have them.

    February 1, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Report abuse |
  60. BrazilianMom

    All of this is funny because as white have their hang ups on black that we are rap listening uneducated people.....I feel that most white people are child molesting, child murdering, serial killers(thank you for all your award winning parenting lately) so alot of people are right rasicm goes both ways......thank you news media. Funny thing is whites have a European background and Europeans hate white americans and european women love black men.....A world full of hate.....isnt it awesome! But lets be honest I hope white people are ready to learn spanish because Mexicans are coming in full effect dolls whites are already the minority............#justsayying

    February 1, 2012 at 9:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sarah

      Your rant sounds very white hating for someone posting about racism going both ways.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • BrazilianMom

        Funny thing like I tell my husband all the time....I hate everyone be it black white asian or latino .......they all have issues no one race is perfect so i single no one race out......US as mankind have to many issues

        February 1, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • George

        Well said

        February 2, 2012 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Voliza

      Sounds to me like you're only picking and choosing what you want from the news. Plenty of blacks and hispanics are murdering their children, raping others and committing violent crimes. Do your homework. This is WHY people call you uneducated, because you are.

      February 2, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  61. jim

    Americans are crazy because they focus on something so irrelevant as race. If there are differences in wealth, it is due to cultural differences and not skin color.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Joe

    100 years from now some of the black posters will be right. The melting pot of America will have turned all of the children of mixed breeding white. All males of all colors want white women. Eventually all races in America look white.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Report abuse |
  63. jim

    Americans are very, very racist. Did you know Mexican birth certificates don't list "race?" Yes, that's right. Americans are rude, selfish, arrogant, and intolerant.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Jim, have you looked in the mirror lately?? Racist, intolerant??. You seem to fit those terms well yourself..

      February 1, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
  64. residentstone

    Well, if 95% of blacks were'nt nearly illiterate, loud mouthed, ignorant fools with ridiculous names and a fear of hard work, maybe it would be a different story.

    Sorry to the 5%, your race is bringing you down.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      You are an idiot. But I'm sure you already know that.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      Agreed, blacks and left wingers HATE hearing the obvious facts and truths about blacks, they can't stand it, it drives them mouth foaming crazy and makes them beg for us to stop. You cannot hide the truth, so it cannot stop, ever.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      You are embarrassing yourself with such comments.. Please do not generalize..

      February 1, 2012 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • madamelaverite

      Yeah, I guess if your only exposure to black people is music videos and the evening news you would think that.

      February 7, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Terry Brookman

    You can't fix stupid

    February 1, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
  66. amac

    We're post-racism in the sense that racism is no longer sanctioned publicly, thanks to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that banished "Jim Crow" laws to the dustbin of history. Unfortunately, post-racial is probably an unobtainable goal, since if history has demonstrated anything it is that people think and believe what they want to think and believe, secondary to any truth or facts in the matter.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
  67. J. Alejandro

    “post-racial” is little more than a nonsense term devised by people (mostly white, frankly)" A "post racial era" was a point that the Obama campaign sold us. It wasn't mostly white people.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Post-racial is something Obama sold us? Are you for real?

      February 1, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
  68. jim

    America is nothing more than a collection of tribes. Patriotism does not exist because we have nothing in common with each other.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Have you ever lived abroad? I'd suggest that an extended period living in another country might help you appreciate how very much Americans have in common.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        black people dont live abroad that means they would have to work and coulnt get free goverment handouts, also that means trying to master another language they havent mastered english yet.

        February 2, 2012 at 12:57 am | Report abuse |
    • jim

      Actually, I have lived abroad, and I realized that we don't have much in common.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • RTB

        Maybe you're just anti-social. Having lived abroad for several years, I'm struck by how powerful and unifying American culture is. Even the terms of the argument are uniquely American.

        February 1, 2012 at 9:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • jim

        No, but I am tired of being insulted for being white. I owe you nothing. If you had your way, you'd steal me blind because of my whiteness. That's why I would like to emigrate to another country where white people are not the constant targets of insult. God curse America.

        February 1, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ashley

        How un-American of you Jim. If you want to curse America and want to leave this country than go. You are not being held against your will. Go to Sweden or Finland since its a white place. No one whats your "whiteness". Frankly, anytime race comes up white people get bent out of shape. You guys say the author has white guilt but it seems like most of these posters are suffering from a form of white guilt. Probably coming from the shame of your ancestors. This article is just simply saying that racism does exist and that we shouldn't think otherwise because Obama is President. Its not the racism of the 60's etc but just subtle things.

        February 2, 2012 at 2:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      Americans have nothing in common, I have been abroad, and the hate here is as hot as anywhere else, there only reason there isn't mass murder every single day is because the police system still works. I myself would be a soldier to kill left wingers who I consider just as much of an enemy as the nazis were or Iran, or North korea. Don't think for even one second that you are even remotely my "countryman" or peer. Not even one....

      February 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • jim

        thank you

        February 1, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
  69. BLTV

    For those of you who are spewing your hatred against people of color in this comment space, you are doing nothing but proving Tim Wise' point. We cannot live in a post-racial society when people of color (not just Black) AND whites are constantly spreading ignorance about one another and committing crime. Yes people of color are aware of what racist whites think of them and whites should acknowledge that based on the history of this country and many parts of the world, there is a certain amount of privilege given to those born with white skin. Ones life path is not solely based on race, there are other factors involved specifically socioeconomic status and opportunity, but until both sides are willing to acknowledge the privileges, wrongs done, and hold themselves accountable nothing can change.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • jim

      Hold who accountable? for what?

      February 1, 2012 at 9:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      When you recognize your races racism against whites, you can talk. Until then, you have nothing worthwhile to say but the usual bigoted remarks towards whites.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
  70. awoody4words

    Dear Electroguy – Can you read? Didn't the author clearly state when all other factors are thew same(referring to jobs) that a disparity exists? What does listening to Rap music have to do with anything?

    February 1, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
  71. mike

    So it is racism that white families have better incomes than blacks and lations? Sorry dear liberal opinion writer, my family came from Israel, originally from Uzbekistan. We did not ask for some crappy hand outs from the government, my dad got a decent paying job and later after my mom learned some more english is now working for Delta and Emory. I am planning to become a nuclear engineer and my sis is a straight A student.

    So what you liberals are doing is just saying that blacks are dumber than white. You think you are helping them, but honestly you just make them look retarded to the average white person.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Mike, you are clueless. The issue has nothing to do with giving anyone anything. The issue is the continued existence of bias. Your family came here from another country. Good for you. Considering that you didn't do anything to make this country great, maybe you should think less about how no one gave your family anything (which is a lie, else what did they come here for?) and think more about contributing something more than bigotry to this country.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • awoody4words

      Mike -you claim your heritage is from Isreal? Is the term ;'Liberal' used throughout Isreal; a term used to divide?

      February 1, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      Thank you Mike black people have not figured that out but they will when the bottom drops out of this economy see who is going to save them because at that point it will be every man for himself. Liberals want be able to help you then there want be any money.

      February 2, 2012 at 1:02 am | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        Lots of blacks in this country do very well, but we still face discrimination that white people don't. Even in the times of segregation, blacks managed to get an education, start businesses and thrive. There have always been rich, middle class, working class and poor black people just like everyone else. But blacks have a disproportionately large underclass (poor folk) than whites because of the discrimination we face.

        Thank God there is more opportunity now, but only because brave people stood up and fought for opportunity. There was a time when an average black person could only hope to be a shoe shine person, a maid. The upper class blacks were born into that and had the option to work at black firms, hospitals, banks, insurance companies because they could afford to go to college. Very few of them could go to a Harvard or Yale or hope to get a job working in a white company. This was not just in the South, either.

        Things changed because we FOUGHT for them to change. What hasn't changed, particularly evident from this thread and the blatantly racist, cruel and clueless comments from people with no sense of history I might add is the hearts of whites. You all think you are superior riding on the success of your ancestors and the privileges that have accrued to you. You don't even see it because you're like fish in water. This whole society is set up to benefit you and you can't see it.

        Because of that you think racism is something that's made up or something the Klan used to do. If you walked a mile in a black person's shoes, even for a day, your eyes would be opened. I look forward to the ignorant comments that will follow this post.

        February 2, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        madamelaverite, you are trying to argue against racism by making racist comments such as: "You all think you are superior riding on the success of your ancestors and the privileges that have accrued to you. " You need to sit back an think about what you say..

        February 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
  72. More2it

    The author wrote, "To me, “post-racial” is little more than a nonsense term devised by people (mostly white, frankly)" Ah yes, yet another racist story about the evil white man. Racism occurs in ALL ethnicities. Caucasians do not own the market on racism. We are divided or categorized by race. Take a look at some of our government associations or organizations. How can we be post-racial when we have:.
    Congressional Black Caucus,
    Association of Black Lawyers,
    Association of Black Women Attorneys,
    The Black Police Association,
    National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives,
    Black Shield Police Association, etc.
    Also the National Latino Peace Officers Association,
    Hispanic Police Officers Association,
    Hispanic National Law Enforcement Association, etc.
    This article indicates that the "post-racial" statement was somehow created by white people (yet has no proof) and then presents as evidence everything anti white. Take your guilt trip some where else, Mr. Wise.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Actually Factual

      Seriously, Why do African Americans need these organizations? Mainly they still have to run faster in the same race to still come in second.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      The only reason those organizations exist is because predominantly white organizations have proved unwilling to stand up against racial bias. It's rich to discriminate against non-whites and then point a finger at organizations created to fight that discrimination.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • More2it

        If you read their mission statements, not one was formed to fight discrimination. And you cannot assume they were formed for that reason any more then you can assume "predominantly white organizations have proved unwilling to stand up against racial bias."

        February 1, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • madamelaverite

      We need those support systems because of this racist society. Everything is white, white, white. 24/7 it's a white wash where I only see and hear news, entertainment, history, etc. from a white perspective. As a white person, you don't get it because you think you are the norm, just a generic person without a culture to consider. That's what, in your mind, people of color have exotic cultures. "I'm just an American, why can't everyone else be an American." But that negates me. White folks truly don't get it and they refuse to listen and instead prefer to negate us and our experiences as "being too sensitive," or saying "whites don't have a corner on racism." I'm sorry you can't really listen and feel that the existence of racism in this country is somehow a personal attack on your character. Because of the legion of white people like you, closed minded, obstinate, this will never be a post-racial society.

      February 2, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Again you try to argue against racism by making racist comments yourself.. You need to come back to reality..

        February 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Happy

    This article is just more attempts at white guilt. When the US looks like mexico (soon) people will realize the folly of it.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      It's not about white guilt. It's about acknowledging the continuing significance of race in peoples' lives.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Heather Halligan

    Tá bróm orm, but the wee folks (leprechauns) are real.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • More2it

      Aye, lass. I saw them with me own eyes in County Clare.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Heather Halligan

    Tá bróm orm! The wee folks (leprechauns) are real.

    February 1, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Report abuse |
  76. electroguy

    "How can we be post-racial, after all, when the typical white family has 20 times the net worth of the typical black family, and 18 times that of the typical Latino family?"

    Gee, I dunno. Maybe if I dropped out of school, did drugs, listened to rap music, never learned a skill and had 20 kids with 15 different women that I abandoned, our incomes would be the same?

    The problem with Tim Wise, is that he fails to address the result of the choices that people make in their lives as having an effect on their destination. Its very low hanging fruit to say "inequality of income" is tied to color, rather than level of education, experience, life choices and persistence at working towards making a success out of ones self.

    Certainly, racism exists– but on both sides. A black man with a college education may have a tougher time getting a job because of his color than his white counterpart, but when a white man doesnt get a job yelling 'racist!' elicits nothing more than a chuckle. I can name MANY MANY more reasons other than skin color that inhibit both job applicants than skin color– such as poor english, inability to comprehend the work, lack of education, history of drug abuse, a felony record and more. If the author wishes to throw reality out of the window and take the least common denominator approach that 'skin color' was the deciding factor, then he is doing nothing more than fueling the "I am a victim" mentality that is pervasive in the black community.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • joe

      im just glad that black guys go for the uglist white girls. good riddence

      February 1, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cashun Please

        Joe......White girls love me. They stare at me all the time. They so easy......I don't see why men like you have such a hard time wit'em. Everyone knows a whitegirl is the easiest piece you can get. They make whiteboys beg for just a date. But I've seen whitegirls disown their own families for us. I mean I would never have a kid by one but I like to practice on them til' I find a good, decent, respectful, quiet sista. But I can't blame'em. Look at the white men nowadays. S-O-R-R-Y!!! I've been with several white housewives that said I was their first black man. So you know what happens next Joe. DIVORCE!!!! Once a white girl get some chocolate she can't get enough. Better watch yer wife or sister.......you know how ya'll hillbillies do it with that inbreedin'......I see her lookin' at me.......tell her I said wassup baby!!! LoL!!!

        February 1, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        Joe's comment was ignorant, and "cashun pleas's" comment disgusting.. You both need to grow up..

        February 1, 2012 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • nickie

      in some case it is about who u know, I am black, I have a great education, great language and learning others. I came from a good family with both mom and dad. Don't do drugs either. Some people still don't look at that, some just see me as that black girl, o yea and no kids. I am not saying that anybody owes me anything, I just want respect and not look at just other minority. That goes for all races.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • electroguy

        Thats the thing. People DO respect you. Even white people! The problem is, most of the time, the first thing that goes wrong, the word 'Racist!' comes flying out... Believe it or not, white people cheat white people sometimes too. White people work hard and get no respect. White people get no raises, crummy jobs and stepped on. But that doesnt make them whine about inequality every 10 seconds when things dont go their way. (I am not saying that you do, but its the mindset to quickly turn to the white guy holding me back is ludicrous and so is the author of this article.)

        February 1, 2012 at 11:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        im yawning that's what i do when i here the victimization BS. it's gotten old and the world keeps spinning SHAQUITA TALEEKAQUSHA JENKINS.

        February 2, 2012 at 1:07 am | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Of course there are many reasons besides race bias alone for racial disparities, but a great many of those facially non-racial factors are racial in nature. White perceptions of blacks are profoundly negative and they bring those perceptions to bear and then insist they're being objective. And what does rap music have to do with anything? Rap music has been adopted in virtually every country as music of protest. Is it really so much worse than loud heavy metal? No.


      February 1, 2012 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • electroguy

        Maybe you think that singing biatches an ho's and getting your bling on and then emulating that is going to help you blend into middle america, but I am sure you are wrong. Sure there was a time when rock music was looked at as bad, and the rock lifestyle was considered 'horrid'. Try this. Open a grocery store and put only Heavy D and the Boys on and see what kind of clientele comes in. See how you business does if you have "You Like Big Butts" playing at 90 db. Yeah, there is some artistic quality to the music, but you know what? 10 bucks says it will end the job interview before it starts...

        February 1, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Report abuse |
  77. joe

    most black kids dont have a father so its up 2 black woman to raise them. and ummm black woman be dumb trifling idiots

    February 1, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • awoody4words

      Joe – you're just mad because A black woman won't date your sorry As$. Doing push ups and watvhing Rocky III doesn't make you desirable!!!

      February 1, 2012 at 9:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Please take your stupidity somewhere else.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Sure wish there was a monitor to keep ignorant comments to a minimum..

      February 1, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Derrick, Atlanta

    The colonial society structure based on race or caste system has been built over hundreds of years, and probably will not be changed for a long time to come. The sad part is, inequality tends to feed itself... just like wealth.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Peter

    Like so many of his leftist ilk, the author fails instantly with his bigoted, shockingly ignorant article. Racism has 2 sides and the author chooses to villainize white people without even attempting to look at the mountain of black racism that exists in this country. You write this pile of garbage, whining about only white racism "much of it exaggerated and I'm sure an outright lie or distortion" and then you wonder why you and people like you can't get anywhere. To be a left winger, your IQ cannot be very high, that much is clear to me.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • anny

      When was the last time Black people held hundreds of White people as slaves on their plantations?
      When was the last time Black people created a Jim Crow society, and forced White people to use 'white only' bathrooms and go to 'white only' schools with no funding, all while demanding that White people pay the same taxes as Black people?
      When was the last time Black people formed a government in which the vast majority of representatives were Black, and then when five or ten whites finally made it in, said 'see we are equal now."
      When was the last time Black people burned down a White town and hung White men from trees?
      When was the last time cops stopped you, mister White man, while driving, even though you were not doing anything illegal?
      When was the last time you went shopping and had some Black security guard follow you all around the store, even though you had done nothing illegal?
      When was the last time a Black landlord, or a Black-owned bank denied you housing or a loan because you were White, even though everything about you was middle class and able?
      When was the last time a Black person told you to quit whining when you tried to talk about the painful parts of your people's history?
      When was the last time you went to a film made by an all Black cast, and a Black director, in which all the charaters were Black except one or two totally stupid, or totally violent and criminal White people? When was the last time you realized that most films were that way, and that the most of the images in the world, on T.V., in the movies, in history books were of White people portrayed as ugly, ignorant, criminals? (By Black people.)

      America has a history of racism. Even when there are good White people, there are still systems in place that oppress Black people. There are structural issues in this culture that oppress Black people, and there are perceptions – false, ignorant and hateful, created a hundred years ago, that Black people still suffer under today. Go learn something new, and stop perpetuating hatred, PLEASE.

      February 2, 2012 at 1:26 am | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        Fantastic post, Anny.

        February 7, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
  80. joe

    blacks arent the majority of prisoners because of a conspiracy, the just sell the most drugs. listen to rap music. its all about the bling. cops search them because they flaunt it, and desire to emmulate theyre rapper heros. so glad im white

    February 1, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cashun Please

      Joe your jealousy and envy if drippin' off you like snot outta your nose after smokin meth'......You wish you had the kahunas to were some jewelry, listen to rap music, sleep wit all the black girls like we do the white girls. Whatever crimes we might commit is nothin' more than your caucasian forefathers done to us. What goes around comes around son. "Aint no fun when the rabbit got the gun huh"!!!!! LoL!!

      February 1, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        You know that "Joe" is just prodding you.. He is an idiot. Why do you respond in such a way that makes you look foolish also?

        February 1, 2012 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
  81. C.B.

    i would just like to point out that there's no such thing as reverse racism, because "reverse racism" would mean there was no racism at all. Racism is defined as "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." It's not specifically a white-against-black term.

    Also, while there are are black people who commit crimes, such as the ones who committed crimes against Phillygirl, that doesn't mean all do and therefore this article is rendered invalid. There is a lot of truth in this article, though I don't believe the object of it is, as some people are implying, to point fingers or say that white people don't work for the things they have. Essentially, all the article is saying is that we still live in a society charged by racism or, at the very least, racial prejudice. Which, in effect, is being proved by all the backlash and generalizations about minorities in the comments.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
  82. SherwoodOR


    Pray tell: why is this opinion piece in the news section?

    There's nothing wrong with opinion pieces. The American media has a long history of offering opinion pieces, often called "editorials." But the American media also has a long tradition of separating those opinion pieces from the "factual" news. CNN's site has a separate area for opinion pieces.

    It is poor journalism to mix the two like this. This piece, while it is a perfectly good pieces and certainly worth publishing, should be in the Opinion section and not comingled with the news.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
  83. senator butt

    How can we be post-racial when...

    ...articles such as this are posted. You've simply reversed the direction of the racism. It's equivalent to throwing wood on a fire to put it out. Instead of fanning the flames in a desperate "I'm not racist, I swear; Please believe me!" article, how about grabbing the water hose next time.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Differeny but Equal

    There are places that are certainly still clinging onto racism, and there's no pretense that can pretend this isn't the case; however, racism at large has been reduced to a debate of privilege due to minority and majority situations; as a white male male in Chicago that goes to a very well integrated school, I'll tell you that racism exists (nothing like the mid-twentieth century though!), because how can it not? People are so different, externally and internally, that they are not the same; inherently they're equal, but not the same. Furthermore, we seem to forget that racism is something encouraged; if it wasn't, there would be no such thing as affirmative action and quotas. What's more, society as a whole has formed the models of racism, which is largely demonstrated by the fact that pretty much are racist jokes are stereotypes. That applies to all races.
    Experience shows where the world is, and to say that America is a virulent racist society may be by some numbers, but at large we have become so liberal that we don't give a care to race anymore; if a black guy is lazy, it's called racism to point it out, but if a white guy is lazy, it's just called scorn. These lines are often blurred by our innate cynicism, leading to articles like this.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
  85. RG18

    Honestly, I knew there would be a huge white backlash toward this article regarding reverse racism and white racism and a plethora of other things. But to be honest, unless you're an educated or highly perceptive individual, you really won't understand what it's like to be black in America unless, you're black. That is not to say its some harrowing experience where I am denied basic opportunities on a daily basis and openly discriminated against so frequently. Nevertheless, Racism is alive and well, for both blacks and whites. But it's a a lot different when you're considered the minority. Racial stereotypes are not only fed to the population through the media, but we as African-Americans feed into these racial stereotypes openly and ignorantly. The replies from these white people here just label us as crime-filled heathens. This is not the case for many of us. However, the majority of white people won't stop being so ignorant and biased until the majority of African-Americans give other races an excuse not to label us in such a way. When that happens, the rest of us can get rid of the negative connotations associated with our race. If we change our culture and how we present and represent ourselves, we will see a change. Until that time, the race problem here in American will stay the same.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      I do agree that certain behaviors be certain black people feeds racism, but I question how much it will abate as those behaviors lessen. I am reminded of so many cases of successful blacks being attacked because their prosperity offended someone else' idea of blacks not staying in "their place." Much of the white hostility to affirmative action has this ring to it, because there is no such hostility towards legacy admissions, favorable treatment of the wealthy by law enforcement or the use of family connections to advance – things that overwhelmingly favor whites have nothing to do with merit. Still, I do expect much of the racial animosity evidenced in these comments to abate as older bigots die off.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Valerie

      Well said!

      February 1, 2012 at 10:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      True, but because you are not White you will never understand what it is like to be White in America.. It is not the picnic that many assume it is..

      February 1, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • gsu_girl

        Kelly, would you be so kind as to desribe what it is like being white in America? Specifically, as it pertains to disadvantages and setacks you've experienced because of your race.

        February 2, 2012 at 3:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        gsu-girl, one minor problem is dealing with bigots like Mr. Ghost. He sees everything as racial. If I respond to a post he demands to know my race before he can judge whether or not he agrees with me. If I get a job, it is because I am White, if I get promoted it is because I am White, etc.. Just read many of the posts here.. You ask me to explain how it is to be White, but if you are not White you can never know. I am not rich, but many here talk as if all Whites are rich.. I have never belonged to any racist organization, but many here steryotype as if all Whites are racist, I have never inherited anything, never benefitted from Affirmative Action, but I have been assaulted for just passing through neighborhoods that were not White, I had no Whites only scholarships to apply for when I went to college. etc, etc.. I could go on and on, but as many people of color here have already said, why do I need to explain myself?? You feel that you have the right to ask me such a question, but would most likely be quit upset if asked it of you or a person of color. Guess If I had to boil it down to a simple answer about what upsets me I would say "double standard."

        February 2, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Jennifer

    Racism will never go away because people hate what is not like his or her self instead of "loving thy neighbor as thyself" Racist people will burn in hell. People can put their heads in the same but America was made for White males and evry decision after that was for their benefit. America will fail because God will judge the US for it's racist, capitalist, and ungodly ways

    February 1, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Christopher

    I am white a male and proud of who I am, I am not a liberal, I am not PC, I tell it like it is and I have no guilt about who I am at all. I'm 29 and the left wing indoctrination when I was a student failed to brainwash me.
    I am a left wingers worst nightmare.

    February 1, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      amen brother

      February 1, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • awoody4words

      Seriously? -Can you hear yourself through your self prescribed diatribe? You're the guy who gets mad at the athletes making all that money, for dating 'your' women, can't understand why J. Lo would want Puffy; nightmare..to who?

      February 1, 2012 at 9:40 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Ashamed4me

    Okay, well, just point me to where I turn in my car, my rent money, and all of my possessions. Because clearly as a white male, I don't deserve them because I was privileged by virtue of being white. It was my whiteness that got me the brick laborer job after high school, then into the Army, and then because I was so wonderfully white, I was allowed to rack up student loans for college (before the big GI Bill of today). I am truly ashamed of myself for letting my whiteness provide me this vast fortune that I clearly didn't earn, nor deserve, and most certainly gained at the expense of non-whites. So just point me in the direction to where I hand it over...

    February 1, 2012 at 8:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tracy

      I like your post. 🙂

      February 1, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Sure. It has to be all of nothing huh? I always say that the main reason so many whites deny they enjoy racial privileges is because that's one of the best ways to preserve those privileges.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • WhattheEf?

        I'm sorry if I missed it but where in his post was there anything that suggested a racial benefit?

        February 1, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kelly

        You didn't address his point at all..

        February 1, 2012 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
  89. together but unequal

    White people invented the Tan lotions, beds so they can look like the beautiful Latinos and they also invented the Botox to have big lips so they can look like the beautiful lips of Black people, at the end they can never look like us because nothing compares to the original. They want to look like us but prefer to live separate in their suburbs houses.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • electroguy

      White also invent "the job", something you probably gots no clue about, but you can axe someone to be pacific.

      February 1, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Christopher

      White people invented pretty much everything in the modern world, including that computer you are using.

      February 1, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Norman

        a gay white man invented the computer-Alan Turin...

        February 1, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • kaczu

        "White people invented pretty much everything in the modern world, including that computer you are using."

        Nope. This is exactly why Tim Wise says the things he does. Had you even googled African American inventions you would have known this wasn't true. But you didn't and said it anyway. Why?

        February 1, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • George Washington Carver

        Yo, I did shyt wit peanuts yo!! LoL

        February 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Dennis

    Maybe this author should take a walk down MLK Blvd in my town after dark. Guarantee he will be robbed or shot or both.
    If you want to chane things, start with that.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
  91. larvadog

    All I know is I see three beautiful women in the picture accompanying the article.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norman

      two of them are kind of beastly...

      February 1, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
  92. Amber

    Tim thank you for bringing up these hard realities. It is not somehow "racist against whites" to state the truth: that there are huge gaps in this country based on race. White privilege is real, whether we want to accept it or not. It's only when we as a society realize that these problems exist that we can work on getting rid of them. For the record, I am white, a former teacher in an urban school with mostly Latino and African American students, and my students are some of the most ambitious, hard working, and smart people I know. I hope that one day they are running the world instead of those who are ignorant enough to believe that our country is no longer racist.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Phillygirl

    this is ridiculous. I am a white female living in a predominantly back neighborhood, The crime against me & my family for living here has been awful. Car was scratched with words "white B****", home burglaized, gang paint on the side of the house, rocks thrown at windows and smashed, all within the first year of living here. The police were called numerous times and just said "sorry we can't do anything for you" and 'conveniently' lost the photos of the damage. When we got upset they threatened to take US in for being so visibly upset. Unbelievable. I contacted numerous news agencies and papers to highlight the issue of reverse racism and never ever got a call back from one single place. Reverse racism is alive & well. I work more than full time in West Philly and keep to myself for my own safety. The facts are the facts. Its a shame so many other stories are just not told to hold a fair discussion about all this.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • ninacolinas

      I couldnt agree more!!!!!!

      February 1, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • MT2CiTy

      Had the crimes against you happened in an area considered "safe" the police department would have told you the same exact thing. It would not be suprising if these crimes were committed against your family because if your "race",but those crimes happen to you neighbors as well ? Tim Wise is hated because he is white and willing to talk about the issues revolving around racism.....The argument against Wise that blacks and Asians are racist against whites being a real race issue is laughable, in no way does Wise deny racism against whites but he does provide historical explanation to what lead to whites experience racism. It does not seem like Wise is denying racism rather he is presenting the fact that racism is not a civil rights issue of our parents or grandparents generation, rather it is still a constant battle today.

      February 1, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • More2it

      That's because, according to people like Wise, it is far, far easier and apparently acceptable to paint the Caucasian as the only racist ethnicity on earth. When I first read his article, I was furious. I've read it a total of 4X's and now I just dismiss Mr. Wise and this biased piece of work.

      February 1, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        He's not talking about everywhere on Earth. He's talking about the USA. Why don't you stick to the subject and country at hand. Where white people hold majority rule, their racism matters. If some black dude hates you, unless you're defenseless somewhere his racism won't matter to you. Chances are you live a life where you rarely if ever even have to come into contact with black people. That "reverse racism" is a bunch of BS to deflect off of your apparent guilt. If you're not a racist, why do you feel guilty? If you haven't done anything you shouldn't feel guilty. Maybe you feel guilty because you listen to the racist commentary of your friends, laugh at racist jokes and just go along to get along. If so, you're part of the problem.

        February 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tracy

      Phillygirl, thanks for sharing your story here. At least some of us hear you. 🙂

      February 1, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Reverse racism is a made up term.. If what you say is true then you are the victim of plain old racism, nothing reverse about it..

      February 1, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • jay12312

      You need to get out of that neighborhood before you get raped.

      February 2, 2012 at 8:01 am | Report abuse |
  94. Ryan

    This article was nothing but an ignorant, hate filled racist rant against white people. White leftists are vehemently racist against whites. Yes you can be racist against your own race.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Alex

    Typical, when writers want attention they talk about race religion and politics. Even worse when white people question race ethics, minorities feel like they deserve a hand out

    February 1, 2012 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tiger23

      You are so incorrect and misguided. And you proved the truth in the authors article.

      February 1, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      Nah, not a hand out, just an equal shot without all the racist baggage.

      February 1, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Chris

    There can be no "post racial" society because black racism is high and growing. Blacks are too racist and filled with hate, many times murderous hate for their to be any type of unity. Racism has reversed and isn't going away any time in your lives.

    February 1, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • you have it wrong

      Asians people and whites are the most racists in this country.

      February 1, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Blameit to the rich white MEDIA..such as CNN,ABC etc...

      they are trying to start a Civil War against Blacks and Latinos.

      February 1, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • ninacolinas

      As a white woman, I experience racism SO much against me 🙁
      It's horrible and NO one takes it seriously!!

      February 1, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Report abuse |
  97. c3vink

    We're all one people.


    February 1, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
  98. forreal89

    whatever come on stop the complaining. The minorities commit the majority of crime

    February 1, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jennifer

      Minorities don't commit the most crime, they are caugt the most because the law targets them specifically, Whites have more money and can afford better lawyers. Police look for minority offenders.

      February 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Norman

        wrong-minorities actually commit the most crimes-thats a fact-dont lie-

        February 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • joe

        wrong. in any urban area they controll the mid level drug dealings, and are the easiest to get caught. they also cant run away from cops cuz they pants hang too low

        February 1, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • jay12312

        stop smoking whatever rocks got your head all messed up

        February 2, 2012 at 8:22 am | Report abuse |
    • RTB

      According to the FBI, whites commit the majority of crime in America. Why would the FBI lie?

      February 1, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • jay12312

        That's BS maybe you can't read I've been to their website many time and that not what I see.

        February 2, 2012 at 8:25 am | Report abuse |
      • madamelaverite

        I wouldn't even get into that crime argument with these people. It proves very little. Crime is a human thing and I'm sure that in white countries there's a group there that's disadvantaged, marginalized living in entrenched poverty that is also a scapegoat and the majority is blaming them for their situation. They're saying, aha! See, those people are broken and bad. Same sh*, different day. If you need any proof that this is not a post-racial society and that a vast majority of whites are racists look no further than this thread.

        February 2, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
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