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Opinion: Contraception denigrates me as a woman
Pokorny: "Should I so easily accept... that I need to alter a part of myself that’s working properly in order to be free or fulfilled?"
February 15th, 2012
04:22 PM ET

Opinion: Contraception denigrates me as a woman

Editor’s Note: Valerie Pokorny is actively involved in marriage preparation programs, natural family planning instruction and chastity education in the Archdiocese of San Antonio, Texas. 

An opposing view can be read here.

By Valerie Pokorny, Special to CNN

(CNN) - In the face of the Health and Human Services mandate to provide contraception coverage, I stand with my fellow Catholics hoping our religious freedom will be respected.

But more importantly, I stand as a woman hoping who I am will be respected.

Four times a year, I walk into a room of Catholic moms and their middle school or high school daughters to help them see why being a woman matters, as part of the Archdiocese of San Antonio’s Mother-Daughter Programs on the Gift of Femininity.

I tell them it’s no accident that they are women, that women are equal to men in personal dignity, and that men and women are different by design. Those differences are meant to work together for the benefit of each individual, but also for the benefit of the world around them. I tell them there’s such a thing as the genius of women - and that the world needs them to cherish this in themselves and strive to live it out to the fullest because it is good. The world would be impoverished without it.

To make it more practical, I pass out a few popular magazines straight from the checkout lane. I ask them to tag several examples of “girl genius.” They eagerly start flipping through the pages. After a few minutes, I ask each group to share the examples they found.

Then I ask if they ran into any obstacles in looking for those examples of girl genius. 'Yes,' they respond. The view of women in these magazines is often focused on appearances and overtly sexualized. They sense the pressure to conform to standards that lower the bar for both men and women alike.

They see glimpses of women being valued for their skill, their intelligence, their abilities, the positive contributions they make to the world around them, often including motherhood. But those glimpses are overshadowed by racy headlines and flashy displays of the latest trends in personal care, sexual techniques, or celebrity gossip.

All acknowledge that the values society sets for woman don’t always measure up to the fullness of her personal dignity. They separate, reduce, commoditize, selectively ignore, and sometimes outright reject certain aspects of woman, subjecting her to powerful pressure to conform.

Indeed, throughout history woman has been at a sore disadvantage in terms of having the freedom to thrive and contribute her many, varied gifts to society.

This is why I find the case made by our current administration in regard to the Health and Human Services mandate so difficult to swallow.

The Obama administration’s primary talking point on this issue is that “Every woman should be in control of the decisions that affect her own health.”

I agree. 100 percent.

But from there, the defense sounds like slick advertising for the contraceptive industry: To be a healthy woman, you need contraception. All the successful women use it. You can’t live without it.

Should I so easily accept the implication that I need to alter a part of myself that’s working properly in order to be free or fulfilled? I find this premise tremendously offensive. To me, this exerts pressure tantamount to that felt by women who purge after eating to attain or maintain a particular body image. It encourages women to think that their value is somehow intrinsically tied to how sexually available and desirable they are.

I thought the whole moral obligation to fulfill a husband’s sexual needs was a thing of the past... but alas, it’s been repackaged for a new secular generation. Women are still evaluated heavily on the basis of their uninhibited sexual availability, which contraception ensures precisely by severing women from their fertility.  (When a woman uses “contraception” for medical reasons other than preventing a pregnancy it's not technically contraception, and the Catholic Church doesn't necessarily prohibit these uses.)

My fertility is not a disease. It does not need to be repressed, manipulated, or rejected. It ought to be accepted and respected accordingly, by individuals and by society as a whole. And if that means exercising a bit of self control now and then, well, that’s a hell of a lot more dignified than saying, “Eh, we got this pill that makes self control unnecessary. I want pleasure now. Let’s get it on!”

Which begs the further question: Why do we tend to treat woman as if she is always fertile? It seems to me informed fertility awareness would be a game-changer for many women, helping them to understand and care for their overall reproductive health instead of feeling a need to simply control their fertility. Modern fertility-awareness-based methods (many of which fall under the umbrella term Natural Family Planning, or NFP) empower both women and men with accurate knowledge about a woman’s individual, unique reproductive cycle based on observable fertility signs, such as basal body temperature and changes in cervical mucus, that tell them when ovulation occurs.

I’ve found most people write off NFP because they think it’s outdated, ineffective, or only works for women with regular cycles. Frankly, I don’t think they understand what modern NFP entails. The so-called rhythm, or calendar, approach is to today’s NFP like the Model T is to today’s automobile industry: First formalized in the 1930s, it was based on the scientific knowledge available in its day, but we’ve come a long way since then.

Even secular sources are wising up to the benefits of modern fertility-awareness-based methods, which can not only be effective at avoiding pregnancy, but can even help to diagnose and treat causes of infertility. I urge skeptics to research specific modern methods such as the Sympto-Thermal Method, the Creighton Model, or the Marquette Model (which incorporates a fertility monitor.)

I’m all for the progress of woman. Let’s just make sure in promoting her progress, we don’t reject something that is inherently part of her in the first place.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Valerie Pokorny.

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  1. janette doe

    it's all good for religous beliefs not to use birth control. but if every woman should be her own woman aswell then so be it. if she chooses to abstain or use some form of birth control should be totally up to her!

    February 16, 2012 at 8:17 am | Report abuse |
  2. Chels

    I was totally on board with the story until she said that its advertising for contraceptive makers. Nobody has ever told me that I NEED to be on the pill, or that being on the pill would make me happier or healthier. What I have been told, is that I have options. I can choose what works best for me. And I commend the government for trying to find a way to make sure that if there comes a day when I have different health insurance, or none at all, I will still have the same choices that I have now.

    One more thing....sometimes, life is busy enough that I have a hard time remembering to take my pill. I know that a lot of women have the same problem. How can one think, when its so easy to forget to take a pill every day, that taking the time to chart fertility to prevent pregnancy would be an acceptable trade off?

    February 16, 2012 at 8:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Mary

      My husband and I use NFP and I forget to take my temperature all the time. I've even forgotten to bring my thermometer on vacations. It has never been a problem. Once you've gotten to know your own fertility, there are really only a few days during the month where you need to be closely monitoring yourself for NFP to work, although it is a good best practice to monitor all the time just to keep yourself in the habit. Also, the Catholic Church encourages NFP to involve both the husband and wife (I check my temperature and my mucus and my husband charts – on a very easy to use iPhone App in our case), so that the responsibility isn't just falling onto one person.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Dee

      OMG! Chels you are so right, we work, have kids, take care of the home and now I have to keep track of a schedule on top of the kids sport schedule and school and work ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! is my CHOICE and my CHOICE alone what the church is doing is taking CHOICES away from us.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
  3. dr. j

    considering that over 80% of catholic women take some form of birth control in their lifetimes, I really don't have much to say to this woman except...good for you, I guess, for having your faith. Do not oppose it on the masses. If you believe in your religion to that extent, bravo, but you are in a 6% minority of the adult female population.
    All women deserve the right to choose their partners, their health decisions, and in that, their birth control if they choose. No bishop should ever be allowed to suggest otherwise.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:01 am | Report abuse |
  4. TopView20

    Postings are not appearing in the blog line...

    February 16, 2012 at 7:56 am | Report abuse |
    • TopView20

      The Catholic Church is a foreign organization that seeks to exert control over the liberties of American Catholics. This is a deeply shameful cult with no regard for the best interests of its members. Remembers that most ALL Catholic women use oral contraception. The Vatican has no right to infringe upon the rights of Americans to obtain safe, appropriate medical care. It is a shame that the White House even acknowledged the offensive comments of the Catholic lobbiest groups. Who pays taxes? Who gives birth? Who raises children? Who produces in America? NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Catholic Tax Payer

        The Catholic Church is not restricting anybody from using birth control. We're just not paying for YOURS. Not paying is not the same thing as forbidding. Learn the English language. Oh, and as a Catholic, I pay taxes too. It's not like taxes come solely from atheists or something. In addition to learning the English language, try a course on logic. Traditional Catholic universities tend to teach it, and teach it very well.

        February 16, 2012 at 8:48 am | Report abuse |
  5. Mike

    What a bunch of wolves in sheeps clothing. This is all about control. Why else would they baptise children as babies who have no choice. They want their hands in your pockets and hands around your throat as soon as possible. I hope the government protects us from the religious.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:25 am | Report abuse |
  6. Mike

    If you don't want it, don't take it. Now religious groups are trying to control the rest of us.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:21 am | Report abuse |
    • jennifer

      I agree. If you don't want it, don't take it. nobody is shoving it down your throat. but there are plenty of catholics who want it and don't want to be talked down to by their priest. It should be available for every woman and she is able to make her decision. I have worked with muslim client who was 24 and already had 5 children. she had another 20+ reproductive years ahead of her. she was distraught because her religion is against birth control and so was her husband. the poor woman was oppressed by her religion....it wasn't her choice to keep having children, but she was powerless to stop it because of religion. where is the woman's right to choose for herself, religion aside. that is the true issue.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:05 am | Report abuse |
    • TopView20

      SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE in the USA. Who cares what the perverse little Pope says? Catholics do not! Why should the White House respond to foreign dictators regarding American liberties?

      February 16, 2012 at 8:14 am | Report abuse |
    • DW

      Stop it with "They are trying to take away my birth control" crap. NO ONE is stopping you from acquiring contraception. I just don't want to have to pay for it, either thru higher insurance premiums or more to the point my tax money. If you can't afford contraception, here's a plan.... STOP SCREWING AROUND!!!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Melissa

        I don't appreciate paying for men's viagra prescriptions either but i wasn't given a choice there. It's about time women's health issues were regarded as highly as men's. Having contraceptives covered by insurance is only one step in the right direction.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
      • LogicPolice

        So you don't want any tax money going to birth control, but you're fine with money going to support unwanted children who have to be raised in poverty? You do realize that spending taxes on birth control is a lot cheaper than welfare for a child, don't you? I'm sure you do something subsidized by my taxes that I'd rather not pay for. But that is the great part about America. When tax time rolls around, you don't get a list of programs to fund with your money, it all goes (or is supposed to) towards what is best for EVERYONE. In the long run, birth control is the cheaper option for everyone.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:06 am | Report abuse |
      • DW

        Guess what, I don;t appreciate paying for Viagra either. My argument is that people are deomagoging this issue and stating that "The Catholics" are trying to ban birth control. They are not, they just don;t want to be forced to pay for it. My tax money is being used to pay for many thing that I don;t agree with Bank Bailouts being another one).

        February 16, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
  7. Johnnie99

    Don't like it? Don't do it. But keep your own opinion (for mere opinion is what it is) to yourself. Don't stuff your own prejudice from the viewpoint of a well off woman down the throats of the poor.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:21 am | Report abuse |
  8. nateandsteph

    Jeez lady, no one is going to shove it down your throat! If you don't want it or need it, don't take it.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:10 am | Report abuse |
  9. Carl

    The word "denigrate" used by a white woman is racist. Please watch your language.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Jeff

      No, it doesn't.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:26 am | Report abuse |
  10. Kevin R

    Well said Valerie! Well said.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:15 am | Report abuse |
  11. corncop

    And why should your religious choice take money from my pocket (in many instances). I would much rather pay a little of my tax dollars for the prevention of pregnancy. The alternative to this is how many unexpected and/or unwanted babies? Yes, some of these will enter the world in stable and loving homes. However, many will not! These babies will be born into the many cycles of abuse and neglect or they will be dumped into the system of poverty, charity, and welfare. I think my tax dollars will be much better spent by an ounce of prevention instead of the many pounds ($$$) of cure necessary to support a child over how many years? With a questionable end result that may end with a productive member of society, but in many cases will conclude with continued reliance on handouts or antisocial or criminal behavior. So Valerie, you practice your game of chance but as you say, don't mess with my religion. Allow everyone else the choice. Not every Catholic or every religious person sees it your way! And it will be more economical in the long run.

    February 16, 2012 at 5:37 am | Report abuse |
    • DW

      Stop it with "They are trying to take away my birth control" crap. NO ONE is stopping you from acquiring contraception. I just don't want to have to pay for it, either thru higher insurance premiums or more to the point my tax money. If you can't afford contraception, here's a plan.... STOP SCREWING AROUND!!!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Pam

        You don't want your tax money used for contraceptives. I don't want to pay extra money to support your church. Since your church doesn't pay taxes, myself and others are required to pay more taxes to pay for needed police and fire protection from the community. When your religion starts paying for ALL it needs itself, then you can whine about about not wanting to use your tax dollars to fund other things.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
      • samantha

        I don't want my insurance premiums and my taxes to help pay for someone else's prenatalcare and birthing! Since I am no longer able to get pregnant, why should I help pay for someone else who is pregnant.

        February 19, 2012 at 1:28 am | Report abuse |
      • samantha

        People who want to make babies need people like me to help keep their insurance premiums afforable for them to make babies!

        February 19, 2012 at 1:35 am | Report abuse |
  12. Mike Houston

    "Valerie Pokorny is actively involved in marriage... education in the Archdiocese of San Antonio, Texas."
    She seems to be more "actively involved" in teaching Catholic dogma than in "educating" anyone. I hope
    none of my Texas tax dollars go to support any of her religious (or secular) educational activities...

    February 16, 2012 at 3:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob L

      Just learn to read comprehensively and you'll do fine...

      February 16, 2012 at 5:27 am | Report abuse |
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    February 16, 2012 at 3:02 am | Report abuse |
  14. jas

    how hard is it to understand "CHOICE"?

    February 16, 2012 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob L

      No more difficult than seperation of State from the Church, very simple.. The church chooses not to make that available, and not to pay for it and the government has no right to force them too. I agree, VERY SIMPLE.

      February 16, 2012 at 5:46 am | Report abuse |
      • farkie

        Rob, you seem to have a very specific point of view, so I have a question... if Repbulicans (as you put it , ALL OF THEM) are for the separation of Church and State, why are they so opposed to gay marriage and gay rights? Nothing I have ever had explained to me has ever had anything other than religious bias as its basis. I am not exactly a Democrat, but I'm also not exactly a Republican, mostly because I feel that so many of the stances of the majority of the Republican party, at least those members who are in the press so much, are very religiously-based. That's fine when it comes to their personal choices and beliefs, but what about when they start making laws that say a marriage can only be between a man and a woman...?

        February 16, 2012 at 8:31 am | Report abuse |
      • Primewonk

        Except, of course, this isn't about a "church". Churches are exempt from this rule. Businesses are not exempt. I am a bit confused why you folks are unable or unwilling to understand this fact?

        February 16, 2012 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
  15. Judith

    If 99% of American women use contraception; does that mean that only 1% of American women are practicing Christians?

    February 16, 2012 at 1:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob L

      Clearly you dont understand HOW MANY women use it, or which branch of Christianity is concerned about it.. go back to bed.

      February 16, 2012 at 5:28 am | Report abuse |
    • David

      If only 1% of people were slaves they would still have the right to be free. freedoms are not inherent on how many people use them, they are rights you have whether you choose to act on them or not.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:24 am | Report abuse |
  16. ksgurl

    The joke my OB told me during my last pregnancy..."You know what we call people who use Natural Family Planning?" -- "Parents"

    February 16, 2012 at 1:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob L

      We'll be calling you a cervical cancer victim next, because your OB wont begin to have a clue about Women's health.

      February 16, 2012 at 5:30 am | Report abuse |
      • Primewonk

        And of course, you just forgot to include the citations to peer-reviewed scientific research that supports your contentions.

        February 16, 2012 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
    • David

      I highly doubt that, All current studies have shown NFP to be just as or more effective then most other forms of Contraception.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:25 am | Report abuse |
    • mjg

      pls. ask ob what kick backs the pharm. co give to him or the practice!?

      February 16, 2012 at 8:35 am | Report abuse |
  17. Gary

    This is one of the dumbest Op Eds I have ever seen. To equate using contraceptives with fertility being a disease is looney. Contreception does not denigrade the woman, for no otherreason than the most common form, the condom, is for the male. Many guys also get vasectomys.

    How you and your partner choose to do family planning is a personal choice and neither the government nore the church should be involved.

    February 16, 2012 at 1:26 am | Report abuse |
    • steve

      Your another product of our educational system and either did not read the article or simply did not comprehend it.

      February 16, 2012 at 4:37 am | Report abuse |
      • steve

        But I do agree the Church nor the Government should be involved...thus why are we as taxpayers paying for this via the Government?

        February 16, 2012 at 4:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Terese

        Steve, If you make a comment about education, make sure you are using the right form of "you're".

        February 16, 2012 at 6:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob L

      Well Gary, today's liberals are the dumbest group of people as a whole that i believe have ever traversed the face of the planet.. So, we're even now.

      February 16, 2012 at 5:41 am | Report abuse |
      • Primewonk

        Except, of course that this is a lie. Current research shows that young adults who self identify as conservative have an average IQ of 95, while young adults who self identify as liberal have an average IQ of 106.

        February 16, 2012 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
    • Patricia

      I agree. Her premises are outrageous, which makes her arguments invalid.

      March 5, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Furball

    Five words: Separation of church and state. Your argument is invalid.

    February 16, 2012 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob L

      Agreed, the government should not be forcing Catholic employers to pay for something they are morally against.. A simple, clear, concise argument that cannot be refuted by any amount of ignorance from liberals/atheists.

      February 16, 2012 at 5:32 am | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        The separation should protect the people from religion also. Any non-christians employed by christian organizations are now the victims of religious ignorance.

        February 16, 2012 at 8:28 am | Report abuse |
      • pntherpaw86

        I'm morally against ignorant people using their own personal beliefs to discriminate against other people and impinge upon their freedoms. Pretty simple, who your employer is shouldn't dictate what medical care (both preventative and emergent) is available to you!

        February 16, 2012 at 8:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Primewonk

        Again, CHURCHES are exempt. BUSINESSES are not. If a church chooses to run a business, they should follow the same rules as other businesses. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?

        February 16, 2012 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  19. Lauren P

    Right on, Valerie!

    Well-said. Congrats on an articulate and relateable piece!

    Thank you for taking a stab at something most others in your shoes might not have the courage to attempt!!!

    February 16, 2012 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Judith

      The woman is mad.

      February 16, 2012 at 1:36 am | Report abuse |
      • s. Lutz

        yes, she must be mad. Do condoms denigrate her too? They are also contraception. the stupidity of this article is mind boggling. Freedom from fear of pregnancy is indeed very important to men and women. Any method used in contraceptive in nature! Can no one think clearly any more?

        February 16, 2012 at 3:13 am | Report abuse |
      • Rob L

        She should be mad, at an administration that is clearly violating the seperation of State from the church. Obama is a crazed, inexperienced lunatic and muslim. We really made a mistake and we need to correct it in November.

        February 16, 2012 at 5:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Bellow

        RobL: You're welcome to your position, but you must understand that you hold the minority position, most Americans (even most Catholics) do not even see contraception as a moral issue. Public policy should not be dictated by a minority, especially a religious minority, or else we'd be dealing with how to accommodate Sharia law. And the idea that contraception is denigrating women is preposterous!

        February 16, 2012 at 5:52 am | Report abuse |
  20. Ariadne

    The Obama administration and HHS did not say that women need contraception. The argument is that women need ACCESS to affordable, readily available contraception. Since the author's initial argument is faulty, the rest of the article is suspect and further discussion moot.

    February 16, 2012 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
  21. Loyal Democrat

    If she would do more oral and thake it up the bu*t more then she would not need contraception. Of course it is not a problem that Catholic Priests need to worry about.

    February 16, 2012 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob L

      Thats a good democrat for you.. They cant handle it when a well thought out argument is stated clearly for them so that there is not refuting it.. "well, lets just call them names and belittle them, because we're just too stupid to do anything else" Way to go Libs, your days are over.

      February 16, 2012 at 5:35 am | Report abuse |
      • pntherpaw86

        Rob L: you amuse me with your small-minded ignorance, glad that 99% of the posts on this board realize how much of a farce the points made in this article really are. hopefully you too will embrace the world President Obama is trying to make better for you and all Americans. if you can't, then get out of the way of change and progress and go back to the stone age with Santorum!

        February 16, 2012 at 8:40 am | Report abuse |
  22. Will Ross

    I legitimately checked twice to be sure this wasn't "The Onion."

    February 16, 2012 at 12:05 am | Report abuse |
  23. Izzie

    When she compared taking birth control to bulimia I stopped reading. Done. Not listening to this crap. She is part of the 1% of women who don't use birth control.

    February 16, 2012 at 12:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob L

      Thank YOU for identifying yourself as ignorant and uneducated on the matter, now we can ignore your remarks..

      February 16, 2012 at 5:48 am | Report abuse |
  24. Cheryl

    Birth Control is birth control, whether it is used in pill form, condoms or the natural method, so I don't see what all the fuss is about. If this woman uses the natural method of birth control, it is still birth control, is the catholic church against that? If you followed the churches rule in its purest form, no birth control would be used. Ask the Duggards.

    February 15, 2012 at 11:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • harlequin

      I read the whole article and I didn't get that she is against birth control just the way it's being advertised as a disease or a requirement for good health. But hey I'm a man who respects and appreciates women as equals and I generally agree with what she is saying. On the other hand republicans and religious groups condemn abortion on bounds of moral obligation and at the same time would refuse to pick up the tab or provide decent healthcare services to those same unwanted children after the birth. It's insanity.

      February 16, 2012 at 1:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Rob L

        Harlequin, thank you for a well thought statement and your concern for the republican position.. I can put it to you this simply. The Republicans believe in self accountability. Not all Reps are catholic, some of us believe in contraception. All of us believe in seperation of state from the church. AGAIN, ALL OF US.. Some Catholics use contraception, not all of them listen to that statement from the church. Im a Baptist, i read where Jesus made water into wine, so im not into the "All booze is banned" theology, just moderation. My faith in God says, if he blesses us with a child, then it was meant to be, and its not my role to eliminate that life.. Many liberal atheists want to make a contradiction with "thou shalt not kill" and the advocation of the death penalty.. The word KILL in the old testament, actually translates to MURDER, thou shalt not MURDER an innocent life.. If a convicted killer is sentenced to death, that person is not innocent.. However, an unborn child IS INNOCENT, even if conceived via a rape scenario.. God is a loving God, but he is a HOLY GOD, and a JUST GOD, and if we ignore his laws, we must pay the consequences.. Did ya get that?? God isnt JUST a LOVING GOD, He is a JUST and RIGHTEOUS God, without error.. We are ignorning HIM and His wishes, more and more, and look at our society, worse and worse and worse and worse..

        February 16, 2012 at 5:58 am | Report abuse |
      • pntherpaw86

        Self-accountability is really code for "unless you're born into a privileged family with lots of money, we don't think you should have any opportunity to rise in society" or "if you lose your job, it's your own fault and I shouldn't have to help you put food on your table and a roof over your head for your family while you try and find another one" or even "we expect you to have the same religiously moral beliefs as us, and if you don't, we're going to do everything in our power to deny you the rights we're afforded"

        February 16, 2012 at 8:46 am | Report abuse |
  25. Fallacy

    Anyone who is unsure how to use a straw man in an argument could learn quite a bit from this author, as she includes several... [quoting her imaginary opponent] "To be a healthy woman, you need contraception." ... please – nobody is saying that! At best you're genuinely confused about the opposing argument, and at worst you are willfully misinterpreting it.

    February 15, 2012 at 11:23 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Dana

    I can appreciate the substance of this article, and I am not Catholic.

    February 15, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Report abuse |
  27. larry5

    If you have problems now, wait until Obamacare arrives. Google Holdren, one of the authors and a man admired and supported by Obama. Obama even appointed him the Science Czar to the White House. Holdren is a monster, one that Obama looks up to for advice. Read Holdren's view on forced abortion and other issues that Obama supports.

    February 15, 2012 at 11:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Typinator

      Yeah and the winds on Saturn blow at hundreds of miles per hour, but like your statement that has nothing to do with this article.

      February 15, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pro-woman

        "Like"! Lol!

        February 15, 2012 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Judith

      Over a quarter of a century we all change opinions on many things, especially those things we wrote as students. Just like you, the story is way out of date.

      February 16, 2012 at 1:35 am | Report abuse |
  28. Josie

    This really caught my attention..."But from there, the defense sounds like slick advertising for the contraceptive industry: To be a healthy woman, you need contraception. All the successful women use it. You can’t live without it." It does seem anymore that is what is being told. To get somewhere you have to wait to have kids, to wait you have to go on birth control Sadly I know many women who are more willing to go home with men and have fun, because they are on birth control. Don't get me wrong, I have been on birth control in the past (I was 19 when I started, and not ready for kids). Stayed on it till I was almost 23, shortly after had my two kids, and no more since then.

    I feel that it should be the woman's choice, that women should care for herself. Let her chose what she wants to do with her life...and most get that chance.

    February 15, 2012 at 11:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin R

      To wait, you have to use birth control?!? Really? Is there no other choice?? Think about that statement a bit.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:20 am | Report abuse |
  29. Dan

    Valerie,

    I wasn't aware that the new contraception law passed by the U.S. government was mandatory for women. Maybe in reading it I missed a paragraph or two but where does it show that a woman is required to get contraception? This is an "availability law", not a mandate for the individual. Also is the point of your editorial that woman are being marginalized because they are being provided with options, or that there isn't more research done into male contraception or NFP? I believe your argument is not as simple as you portray it to be. Contraception for females isn't denigrating to woman. You might feel denigrated, but that is far from saying the act itself is denigrating. If you have solutions, lay them out, in detail. You had one minute on average of 6 billions people's time, and you spent it complaining with no real focus on the solutions. You listed some possible alternatives, but I left as ignorant about them as when I started reading. Make your one minute count next time. \

    February 15, 2012 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • ringo

      Just like gay marriage – its opponents apparently think it's mandatory.

      February 15, 2012 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tracey

      Thank you Dan! I couldn't have said it better myself!

      February 16, 2012 at 12:25 am | Report abuse |
  30. kevin

    Congratulations, don't use them then.

    Now, am I supposed to think you speak for all women or your opinion reflects theirs?

    February 15, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Reason

      Maybe we read different articles, I didn't see anywhere that she said she speaks for all women.

      February 15, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Reason

    First, there is a difference between not "liking" something and something being against your religion. If you are Baptist and drinking is against your religion you should not be mandated to buy liquor for others; If you are Jewish and eating pork is against your religion you should not be mandated by the govt to buy others pork; If you are Mormon and drinking caffeine is against your religion you should not be mandated by the govt to buy caffeine; If you are a Jehovah's Witness and blood transfusions are against your religion you should not be mandated by the govt to pay for my blood transfusion; If you are Catholic and you believe that contraception is wrong you would not be mandated by the govt to pay for someone else's contraception.

    If you are being forced to pay for something (war or otherwise) that is against your religion (not just something you don't like) then you need to speak up and join in this fight because you are next.

    I don't hear anyone saying contraception should not be available to others. I don't hear anyone saying people should be forced NOT to use contraception. That is NOT the issue. It's about who pays for it. If its so important then pay for it yourself. Obama himself said 99% of American women use contraception - if that is true, (if its not direct your complaints to him) then there is not an issue of access. If it's so important why aren't the multibillion dollar drug companies stepping up and offering it a cost or low prices? It's because they don't care about you as much as they claim they do!

    REPEAT : NOBODY is saying you cannot contracept or that contraceptives cannot be your PERSONAL CHOICE. We do RESPECT your right to choose and to pay for whatever you want with your own money. If you are poor, medicaid/medicare already pays for it. So how about everyone just calm down with this "your taking my rights away" business. NOBODY is FORCING their Catholicism down your throat. You, on the other hand, are forcing your secularism down the throat of individual Catholic business owners.

    February 15, 2012 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gini

      No, as long as the church conducts business operations that are not preaching or church day related, they need to abide by all rules other business have to abide by. The church business gets enough breaks (tax breaks for starters), that we non-members of the church may not agree with, but honor. It has nothing with pushing secularism down your throat. I am not secular and I do believe in God and Christ. But I also know God has given humans many gifts, science and knowledge among them. I believe God believes, unlike the church, that women are equal and deserving of making decisions in regards to their own bodies. So when the church begins to pay taxes, and no longer gets special privileges ordinary businesses can only dream of, that's the day I believe the church has a right to interfere in politics, not a minute before.

      February 15, 2012 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sheldon Robidoux

      Nowhere in the article did she say that she is denigrated by having to pay for contraception.

      February 16, 2012 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
    • ILL501I

      Does your employer pay for your healthcare? If so, congrats! but like most working americans, they only get a "deal" on healthcare plans... the employee still has to pay for it. I don't believe that anyone is asking for employers to pay for something they don't believe in. And while we're at it, why is my employer worried about any benefits I might get? I expect my employer to think the same way about my health benefits as they do their bottom line... THE MORE THE MERRIER!

      February 16, 2012 at 3:26 am | Report abuse |
    • samantha

      One more time. If the question is "who pays for it" then my question is why do I have to help pay for those who want to make babies? I'm too old to make my own, and if weren't for people like me, people who want to make babies could never afford the insurance premiums to make babies. I do not need birth control either, but I would rather help pay for that than to pay for those who make babies. Perhaps it is time for those who want to make babies to take care of the cost for themselves.....insurance premiums would then go down for the rest of us!!! After all it is their choice to make babies isn't it???

      February 19, 2012 at 1:43 am | Report abuse |
  32. Nicole

    The recent decision by the HHS has nothing to do with Catholics specifically, but religious liberty and freedom generally. When the government, and its agencies, start telling individuals and companies what they should provide regardless of religious objections, that is an encroachment on your freedom as a citizen of the United States. This isn't just a "Catholic" thing, but this will effect Jews, Muslims, Amish, Protestants, and many others. And, if the government is allowed to take one's religious objections away in this area, what will stop them for other areas of an individual's choices? This is a slippery slope that we as Americans should not allow. The state is clearly crossing the line between church and state and demanding the church to conform to the state's demands, and this is not allowed in the First Amendment.

    February 15, 2012 at 10:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alinnc

      I think that probably the biggest religion in the US and the world could be most aptly call Moneytheism. All these posters that claim that religious groups should not be forced to "pay" for contraceptive services should also be willing to pay the higher rates brought about by pregnancy and child health services, and should also be willing to accept family health insurance rates based on the number of children in the family. Bigger family, higher rates. Does that not make sense? However, the bigger religion of moneytheism means that if someone else subsidizes them and they don't have to spend their buck for the additional services they get, they are free to exercise their other rights to complain that their morals are being offended.

      February 15, 2012 at 11:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Judith

      You are forgetting that the churches are objecting to women getting contraception, which is their attempt to take away free choice from women.

      February 16, 2012 at 1:47 am | Report abuse |
    • ILL501I

      Since when does a company comprise an individual?... Companies cannot and should not EVER be able to claim indiviual rights!

      February 16, 2012 at 3:30 am | Report abuse |
      • ellie

        companies are individuals according to the US. Try incorporating a company and you will see. Some have used the freedom of speech to get away from being forced to say certain things ie, the tobacco industry.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
  33. Cindy

    If the author doesn't want to use birth control then she shouldn't. But others who work for religious organizations who DO want to use birth control should have that option. Nobody is forcing birth control on anyone.

    February 15, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Reason

      They do have that option. You just have to pay for it out of your pocket. Don't like it, work somewhere else.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pro-woman

        @Reason, are you part of the 1%? Or are you so out of touch that the simple answer is "get a different job" and "pay for it yourself"? Do you have ANY idea how important it is to poor, barely-employed-through-no-fault-of-their-own young women to be able to delay and/or avoid pregnancy? Are you so sheltered from the day to day reality of people who depend on employer-provided health insurance as to think that your overly simplistic solutions are helpful or even possible for millions of women? Do a little community service for people who are good, decent, and kind, and who depend, however temporarily or permanently, on the support of health insurance to INSURE THEIR HEALTH. Geez.

        February 15, 2012 at 11:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • Fallacy

        Reason – you are not being true to your namesake here. "Go work somewhere else" is a weak, snide response. What if I am a Christian Scientist who owns a factory and don't believe in offering my employees any healthcare at all? What if I have another religion and don't believe in paying the minimum wage? Is the big evil Government stomping on my religious liberty here? If so, why have any workplace regulations at all?

        Admittedly these are extreme examples, but they fall into the same line of thought as the arguments coming from these bishops.

        February 15, 2012 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • ILL501I

        Most companies DO NOT pay for their employees heath care. That is an option that the employee chooses. We all see that deduction taken out of our check every time we get paid. The funny thing is that if the employer chooses to exclude birth control, the premiums on health care actually go up! Female centric industries have the highest healthcare premiums in the world!.. because they have babies! Look, give the women the option and then just preach better. Get your game up and convince them that abstenance is the better road to salvation. Stop using YOUR freedom of religion as a crutch to oppress others.

        February 16, 2012 at 3:38 am | Report abuse |
  34. PaulB

    Pokorny, you must be lonely. From you essay it is clear you do not have friends or a man/woman in your life. You hate this country and want to destroy the President, the administration and anyone that doesn't follow your moral views. You sound like an extremist. You must be on the verge of plotting terrorist attacks on our country.... No? Of course not, but that is the same type of wacky logic you used in your opinion above. yes, I do not agree with your views, but your logic reminds me of my old college roommate that jumped from "I love you man" to "I kill you" within the same sentence. Taking the extreme position is a sure fire way NOT make your point. How do you go from the issue of making contraceptives available to the view that the policy is slick advertising for the contraceptive industry or that it implies that you now have to alter your body with a pill. Those are some BIG BIG jumps in assumptions. Their is a big difference between making contraception available and forcing people to take it. If that were the case i would be on your side. Any government that forces a person to take contraceptives is an issue that everyone that commented above would join together to fight. Just as they should a government that forces people not to take contraceptives. Freedom is about living in a society the way YOU feel is moral. Just as strongly as you do not want women to take the pill you would be even more outraged if you were forced to take it. That is a free society. I am a little surprised by CNN. This is just a poorly written Op that should have never made it this far. Does anyone read this stuff before it is posted? Again, not so much the opinion, but the structure and the lack of logic Bad job on quality control.

    February 15, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Friend

      Paul, your not very talented at inferences. I'm actually a friend of Mrs. P. She has many friends and is a very active woman. Any woman would be blessed to have the kind of husband who completely adores her as her husband does...

      February 15, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pro-woman

        @Friend, did you actually READ past the obvious sarcasm?

        February 15, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pro-woman

      PaulB, thank you for such a thoughtful, articulate and accurate post. How refreshing to see a (I presume from your name) man with such a well thought out perspective that supports a woman's right to choose EVERYTHING about her own body. Bravo!

      February 15, 2012 at 10:50 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Muhammad

    Do you really believe what you wrote in this article? This is insane. CNN can you please stop putting crazy people's articles on here.

    February 15, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Friend

      CNN asked her to write it.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Tare

    Better yet just eat sh...bark at the moon and die. You don't deserve listening to.

    February 15, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Timmy

    If you are so hot on Vatican Roullete, good for you. Just please don't push your medieval value system onto me or my relations. Some of us simply don't take everything a sheltered, celebate 80 year old says to heart.

    February 15, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gini

      Is he or was he in his prime really celibate???? I would love to know how many Catholic fathers REALLY were celibate their who lives or at least after they were "called"?!

      February 15, 2012 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Aurelio

    In the USA, most Catholics I know obviously practice birth control because they do not have a baby every year or so. How can they be married for 20 years, and have only one or two children without practicing birth control? Yet they would deny contraceptives for people they don't even know? This type of religious duplicity is common in the USA.

    In the Third World Catholic countries I have visited, I see many low-income families with far more children than they can possibly afford to care for. Many kids grow up unhealthy and die prematurely because their parents do not limit their family to an affordable size using reasonable birth control because it is against their religion.

    February 15, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • M in Oz

      AIDS has been killing off parents in Africa for a few generations now and the church still tells them, "Don't use a condom".

      February 15, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Anne

    The pill will NOT go off the market, NOT be unavailable, NOT cease to exist if Catholic employers don't pay for it. You will just have to pay for it yourself. And many Catholic employers will take the penalty rather than paying for it anyways so SNAP!

    February 15, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Mr. Plow

    this whole article is implying implications under a false assumption.

    February 15, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • LT

      I couldn't agree more. It's also a far stretch to make comparisons between women who feel a compulsion to "binge and purge" and those being given options with regards to fertility. No one is being forced to take birth control pills. There are certainly other choices a woman can make. Ideally what empowers women most is the RIGHT TO CHOOSE...to have options available, research those options and make an educated decision. I also believe in the genius of women... that's why I believe that each woman can search within herself and choose the path that best suits/fulfills her. Repression of women can come in many forms...sometime from men...sometimes from religion....

      February 15, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • sahale93

      nonsense doesn't make people sound more intellingent

      February 15, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Gilly

    Everyone in America deserves equal rights, and it's against people's religious freedom for those who work for religious affiliations who want contraceptive services but cannot retrieve them due to forced religious beliefs on them. Valerie, after Obama's law passes, you wont be forced to use contraceptives. Your religious freedom will still be intact

    February 15, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
  42. A Reasoner

    Yes, none of us should ever have to pay for anything we don't "believe in," like war, public health programs, education, highways, law enforcement, heavier than air flight, and modern medicine. And, we should also insist that others should honor our "beliefs" because if we clap our hands and believe it will all be true. We're 2,000 years past time for women to stop taking advice from men in dresses.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:48 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Jim Dandey

    If it denigrates you, then don't f_ing use it...

    February 15, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Report abuse |
  44. tensai13

    Pokorny is the poster child for religious wack-job.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Report abuse |
  45. M in Oz

    God wants you to have headaches love, don't take a scientifically devised tablet to get rid of them either or you'll be degrading yourself.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Den

    It is sad that we have reached the time when a woman believes she must "Protect" herself from the gift of "New Life" and from the gift of a "Man in her life", Two gifts that should be most fulfilling and deepest desired.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • M in Oz

      What? The mentality of "needing a man in my life" is so 1950's staying with the abusive husband. My mother was like that, she couldn't be alone with her children because her "friends" would have talked about her.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
  47. supernova

    This Catholic nonsense of "go forth and multiply" is why there are too many people living in poor living conditions around this world.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mother of two

      So, a child born in conditions that don't happen to be your version of perfect does not have a right to live??? Who are you to play God?

      February 15, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mr. Plow

        what part of your rational came up with that load?

        February 15, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • supernova

      Mother of two – there is no god – repeat that a couple of times to yourself and maybe, just maybe you will then realize how much of a fool you have been all of these years. If god exists, where is he? Why doesn't he show himself? he doesn't exist – he's nothing but a fairy tale created by the aristocracy to control suckers like you.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Whaa?

    Didn't priests abuse small girls and then tell you how to act like a christian? Didn't priests tell women to stay with their abusive husbands because divorce would mean they'd go to Hell? I'd say the church has been denigrating women more than anyone else ever could.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Diane

    Contraception "denigrates" you. I am sorry, I am happy to have access to contraception.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Teresa

      How do you suppose it would go over with the Catholic Charities if they could not get the 3+billion annually from the federal government? If you want tax payer money, especially since you don't pay taxes, then you have to follow the same rules everyone else follows to get it. Supplying contraceptive care to women does not mean those same women have to use it.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Gavin

        How do you suppose it will go over with the homeless people that Catholic charities currently feed and house when they're told they have to go without food and shelter because the Government doesn't give money to the charities any longer?

        February 15, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pam

        GAVIN, IF the adherents to your faith really believed in charity, they would make sure that they gave enough money to their respective religions to fund that charity. The fact the the US government gives them millions every year just proves it not religious charity. It's the taxpayers who are providing the charity, not the church. The church is only a vehicle to deliver the money and pay themselves salaries courtesy of tax payers.

        February 16, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Whaa?

    lol they aren't MAKING you take it. Whereas young women can be MADE by their christian families to keep a baby they don't WANT. Your religious freedoms have taken away other people's freedoms for centuries.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • CViper

      @Whaaa: I know this is off-topic but... you said, "Whereas young women can be MADE by their christian families to keep a baby they don't WANT." You mean, like young men are forced to pay for accidental children THEY don't want simply because the woman does? Your body, your choice....YOUR RESPONSIBILITY as far as I'm concerned, and not his unless he also has the same EQUAL choice. Making a comment like that makes me wonder if you would support equal choice for men when it comes to women making the parenting choice FOR them rather than WITH them.

      February 16, 2012 at 3:50 am | Report abuse |
  51. Mae

    Great job, Valerie! It's a shame that so many who don't agree with you get openly hostile, irrational, and are only able to sling personal assaults or assaults against the Catholic Church. I think their lack of respectful dialogue completely undercuts their arguments, if they've even made any arguments. I've always thought that the best way to come to a rational decision is to examine the evidence on both sides of an issue, trying to see the issue from the other side. Unfortunately, many here have made up their minds with only half the evidence, some of which is faulty. But then from many of the posts, it's clear that many don't want to be rational at all. I challenge them to REALLY examine and understand Valerie's position before condeming it.

    February 15, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • barbara451

      Here is some respectful dialog. If you don't like contraception, don't use it. Please do not tell me how to live my life and I won't tell you how to live your life. Is that a deal or not? Can you live without pushing your beliefs on me? I can live without pushing my beliefs on you.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      Mae, how about you REALLY examine what she's saying. She is saying having the OPTION of contraception is FORCING it on her. Her argument is rationally invalid. Illogical. Unsound.

      February 15, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Jesus

    "Contraception denigrates me as a woman" Then do not use it. That is such an odd opinion to have but the world is full of religious freaks. Do not try to force your misguided views on others.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Whaa?

      Thankyou 😉 (Christians seem to dramatise this issue a tad considering the history of denigration of other people by the church)

      February 15, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • sahale93

        Whaa? Not making sense here...

        February 15, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Elreyjones

    Keep preaching the truth the gates of hell shall not prevail against thee. they haven't for 2000 years and you are still strong as ever. Keep the faith!!!!

    February 15, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
  54. mark

    Frankly, coming from someone who has nothing but religious and personal beliefs to back up her opinions, they have no relevance in this discussion. Birth control denigrates you? Fine. Your choice not to use it. Do not force your insipid beliefs on others.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sadie Boyd

      amen

      February 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      EXACTLY.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carrie

      Well said, Mark.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Report abuse |
  55. S

    Let me get this straight, you want your religion and beliefs respected at the cost of my freedoms and beliefs. I am Catholic. I support birth control use. My body, not yours. I'll make my own decisions and you can make yours. Where I live all the hospitals in my city are Catholic and there are hundreds of women that work in them who do not follow the Catholic doctrine. They have a right to contraceptives and their employer should provide the option. Otherwise I don't believe that hospitals should be Catholic run any longer.
    And by the way, birth control has more medical uses than just preventing pregnancy.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • C

      Did you read the article? I mean really read it. In the article she fully acknowledged that there are other medical uses and she also stated quite correctly that the Church does not always oppose these uses. If you are going to tell everyone what the Church believes you can at least do it correctly.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Coreoveride

    Its very obvious the author of this article nor 95% of the people posting have NOT read the FULL legislation being proposed. If you didn't read ALL of it you need to keep your ignorant mouth shut as you have no clue as to what you are talking about and will only confuse the issue or, worse, misrepresent it completely as the author and most posters have done.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • C

      That's interesting. Exactly what issues has the author not read fully? I did not notice that she was commenting on any specific issue other than comments that have been made about birth control. She has as much right to her opinion as you do to yours. I also did not find one line in her article saying that anyone is required to agree with her.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      And yet you present no counter argument other than "you dont get it". What are we not getting? What are you talking about?

      February 15, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
  57. iekoop

    It is highly offensive for Ms. Porkony to state that by having contraceptives available for all women is like teaching women that they don't need self control. In today's society, for a woman, who is not religious, there is nothing wrong with her being in a committed, monogamous relationship and want to use contraceptives if both partners are not ready to start a family and by using birth control does not reflect whatsoever on my "self control". It means that I'm not ready for a family and instead of chancing it by only use one form of contraceptive (condom) I would rather take my health into my own hands and use the pill. Religion is not the one and only basis on measuring a person's character and you can be a good, moral and decent person without it. To think that a grown women is not going to be intimate with her partner is ridiculous and just plain ignorant. It is great for us to teach our young women abstinence, but let's get real, not all of our young women are going to follow that path and there are millions of adult women out there that will greatly benefit from this now being available. If you don't feel that using contraceptives benefits you, then by all means, don't take it, but don't infringe on my right to.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • JFox

      Birth control is not just for women who are not ready to "start" a family – I'm 42, I have 2 kids, I'm happily married, and I'd like to stay that way. I used Natural Family Planning to assist in CONCEPTION, and I know what it entails in my personal situation. We are not currently in a position physically or financially to have another baby, but knowing my cycle means that without artificial contraception my husband and I would not be able to maintain our relationship in the way that WE like. We are not catholics, and I don't need anyone telling me what I can and cannot do in my marriage – I have had control over my fertility all of my adult life, I'm not interested in subscribing to someone else's medieval notions now.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
  58. OC

    "To be a healthy woman, you need contraception." Who's saying this? All the administration is saying is that they will ensure contraception is available for those women that need it. How can you be offended about something that isn't for you?

    February 15, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • C

      Actually Planned Parenthood has said multiple times that unless ALL employers provide contraception many women will be deprived of necessary medical care.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Robyn Wakefield-Murphy

        They said that because during appointments related to birth control, cancer screenings and exams are done which can detect other problems and diseases. Many women would not go in for these otherwise.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Marie

    ... From the illiterate state of Texas.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Marie

    PS I'm a woman and not at all offended by the Church's teaching that upholds my dignity. Am I stupid? No, I'm actually the youngest published author in an APA journal. If you have similar credentials and can reason we can diologue.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • S

      It's wonderful that your husband respects your wishes. It's also wonderful that your well educated. And it doesn't matter what state your from. However I do not like being told by religion that their values, freedoms, and beliefs are more important than other people's values, freedoms, and beliefs. No doubt you'll sit there and tell those reading that it isn't your intention to force your beliefs on others. However either way I look at it, that's exactly what's happening. I welcome all thoughts and opinions but at the end of the day I believe everyone has the right to live as they see fit. I have the right to birth control through my employer as you have the right not to take said birth control. I'm not going to judge you for not wanting birth control. That's your decision. Let others have theirs.

      February 15, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        I do respect your right to use contraceptives. I'm not forcing you to do anything. I'm not even saying they should be illegal. Respect my right not to use my hard earned money to pay for it. If you were a vegitarian would it be right for the govt to mandate you to pay for a slaughter house?

        My comment about Texas was because a previous comment said Valerie was from Texas so she was illiterate. My commnet about education was in reference to many comments saying she believed what she did because she was stupid.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Roger

      Hi youngest published author in an APA journal. Congratulations!!.. how old are you now?...based on your grammar and spelling skills I would say about 11. A state cannot be illiterate, and you and I will never be able to "diologue".

      February 15, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        typing while cooking dinner... give me a break!

        February 15, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        I know a state can't... geesh.. I was responding to the person below who said it.

        February 15, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      Since you are so well educated I can assume you can understand the subjectivity of 'dignity'. What you see as upholding your dignity, is actually undermining the dignity of others.

      February 15, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lilly

      Marie when I come to your door and hit you up for cash to buy something you don't approve of you have the right to tell me no and to get the hell off your porch. But when you pay, through taxes into the government coffers your right to dictate to the government how to spend "your" money ends. It is now the governments money to spend(not always wisely I will agree) on the services, programs, wars, infrastructure or bailing out companies they deem necessary to run the country. If I had my way wars, churches and politicians wouldn't receive a dime, but I don't get to have a say and you shouldn't expect the government to adhere to groups that mistakenly think they have the right to dictate to the government exactly what to spend it on.

      February 15, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gaiafan

      "Respect my right not to use my hard earned money to pay for it." Unless something has changed recently an employee pays for, or contributes to, the insurance premium. How do you claim you are paying for it?

      February 15, 2012 at 9:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        Employers pay at least half of premiums. Would you like to see the checks I write every month for employees health coverage?

        February 15, 2012 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • ellie

        also we pay the same as the person next to us in the office. This is because the insurance company charges the average premium based on average age. So if you want something extra that cost gets distributed to all insured within an organization.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
  61. commander42

    PLEEEZE! I remember the days when the priest would come to the house and ask the woman why no baby this year. Women went crazy having so many children. My mother in law placed the pope's picture in the kitchen to show him what he caused.
    Today the women of Europe do not even baptize their children Catholic. My own grandparents walked out even though my father was baptized. Imagine what all that anti birth control will do to the country. We are not a country of religions but of laws. If you don't like the laws of the land to do what you like for yourself but let the rest of us use whatever means necessary to avoid having children we cannot care for or do not want.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      I certainly hope your children are wanted and cared for.......considering they were likely "mistakes"?

      February 15, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Paige

        If you don't like birth control, don't take it. Moral dilemma solved. Healthcare and church should not be in the same category, ever. I can pay 30 dollars online and become an 'ordained minister,' does that qualify me to make medical decisions for your mother and sister? Of course not. Did you know that many woman take the pill for reasons other than fertility (not that it should make a difference, it's no business of yours what we do with our reproductive health). I'm with Mark, you sound like a tea-party nut job with an abortion sign and foaming mouth.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:06 am | Report abuse |
  62. Marie

    My husband and I use Creighton natural family planning. I'm an educated woman with a Master's degree and my husband is a Board Certified physician. It works. He'd rather control his urges with period abstinence and respect my body than put me at risk. The birth control pill is a class one carcinogen as reported by the World Health Organization. mayo clinic released a study linking the pill with triple-negative (invasive) breast cancer. Hardly cavemen. Butnhe has known women who have died (including a med school college) from complications from the pill. So if anyone thinks they know more than a Cornell trained physician - be my guest. Don't worry Valerie, you will be healthier way longer than all these "I'm free bc I take the pill" women! Cheers!

    February 15, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jesus

      He just doesn't want any little spawns of you coming about to take care of.

      February 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        Jesus, Didn't realize you and my husband were BFF's . Actually he wants more kids than I do and I make enough money on my own to support our family - which probably means I pay for your welfare check. Now, anything of substance you would like to discuss?

        February 15, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Anna

      My husband and I are just starting to look into that method, and I am excited to rid my body of the chemicals found in birth control pills. That being said, I still strongly believe that birth control should be accessible for all who desire it. Different methods work for different people, and who am I to say what should be available to someone else?

      February 15, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        Contraception will still be available to those who want it. But that doesn't mean I should have to pay for it. If Planned Parenthood and the Obama et al care so much about it they should pay for it themselves or get multi billion dollar drug companies to pay for it.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Amy

        Marie – there are lots of things that I don't want to pay for. I don't want to pay for Viagra, but it's covered by Medicaid. I don't want to pay for the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, but I am paying dearly. I live in NYS – I don't want to pay for the national parks out west that I'll never be able to afford to visit. But most importantly, I don't want to pay for the roads to your church: I don't want to pay for them to be paved or plowed, or maintained. Sorry that you don't want to pay for birth control; you'd prefer your money to go to WIC, Section 8 housing, and Head Start.

        February 15, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        Amy, there is a difference between not wanting to do something and something being against your religion. But if any of those things are against your religion you should not be mandated to pay for them directly. So contact your representatives and do something about it. All the more reason to get behind our cause.

        February 15, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Amy

        Marie,why are you forcing your religion down my throat? Your Catholic Church is against my religion – so any support of your church – roads, street lights, police and fire protection, is money that I'm opposed to spending. You want tax exemption for separation of church and state, but no one is forcing you to take birth control pills.

        February 16, 2012 at 7:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Anna

      As a well-educated woman, I'm surprised you've bought into the BC/breast cancer bit. (http://www.prevention.com/health/health-concerns/12-myths-ignore-about-breast-cancer/myth-birth-control-pills-cause-breast-cancer)

      February 15, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        So the Mayo Clinic and the World Health Organization are wrong?

        February 15, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paige

      Sure, Marie. One Cornell physician totally trumps the entire western medical community. It is true the pill has risks and side effects, every woman's body is different. Know what else has risks? Antibiotics, Tylenol, Motrin, epinephrine, antidepressants, all forms of anesthesia, etc, etc, etc. This is a risk v. benefit issue, which is the same for ALL medications and medical interventions. Good for you that you've got the time and dedication and REGULAR MONTHLY CYCLE to use the family planning method that WORKS FOR YOU. That doesn't mean it works for me, or your friends, or everyone else. No one says you HAVE to use birth control, but it MUST be an option for woman.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
  63. Modesto Jim

    My wife tried the "rhythm" method as it was called then and found it almost impossible, especially as a working mother. So she used the pill. We eventually chose to leave the catholic church so we don't have to listen to this sort of pap every Sunday and told to feel guilty if we didn't follow every edict from the bishops. The old men running the church have as much understanding of the average person as our politicians in Washington. This lady is a zealot like many I encounterred, who makes herself feel more valued by parroting the church line and getting a pat on the head from her priest. But how about becoming a priest or deacon? Oh no! That's for men only, she can be nun. Well how about the Knights of Columbus? Oh No! That too is for men only, but she can be a lady of the knights, which means she gets to do scut work without membership. All women in the catholic church are automatically denigrated by this male superiority system. The HHS ppolicy was for affiliated schools and hospitals where there are many non-church workers that deserve coverage. I suspect that the insurance premiums will actually be higher without birth control included because one unexpected pregnancy will cost as much as thousands of pill packs. Also, if the mom stays home they will have to train a new hire, costing many more thousands of pill pack equivalents. So birth control coverage would have actually been a money saver.

    February 15, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • mellen

      Thank you. No one has brought up the fact that this staple ideal of the Catholic church has been ingrained into women by MEN! MEN have dictated control over a woman's body and the exclusion of female opinion in every regard but that of the "pious" and "redemptive" woman. The Catholic/Christian/Orthodox church has been, since its beginning, a foundation absolutely controlled by men with little to no influence (allowed) from women.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Jessica

    Men need to stop commenting on this.

    February 15, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dage

      in what bassis? Can you make a child with out artificial? Men have a say equal rights are in..

      February 15, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      No say in how my wife and I procreate?

      Care to expound on your comment?

      February 15, 2012 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dage

        She has the liberal mentatlity ...... It is dronism at its best. No one but women should have a say.. As marriage is not considered one but i get your point justin. See its all about how you believe and not how it really is. That is what we are faced with today. Do as I say and not as I do concepts. Our government leads by example. how many times have they screwed up their people with tax. they are worried about 40 dollars when they are 121 trillion down?

        February 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • C

      Are you sure you didn't mean to say that anyone who disagrees with you need to stop commenting?

      February 15, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Jackie Benjamin

    It is time this woman and the Catholic church get with it, they are only fooling themselves, she thinks the women she speaks to don't use contraceptives, then if she thinks that I feel sorry for her. I am positive that nearly all of her church goers use it. Does the church supports these families when the parents are out of jobs and have seven children to feed, NO. Just wondering if she came out and condoned all the accused priests who molested all those children. They have problem with their women congregation using contraceptives but does not condem all the wrong in the church. Contraception is a choice, no one is forcing anyone to use it. If China didn't deal with the problem imagine what would have happened to them and with them it is not a choice it is a MUST.

    February 15, 2012 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      Positive that all of her church goers use it? Wow, so you know all these people?

      Care to admit your baseless comment?

      February 15, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • mark

        Just what reality do you live in bro? Oh yeah, the made up reality of religion.

        February 15, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dage

      Jackie you hit the nail on the head so what makes this any different then us be COMMUNIST? so it is right for Government to mandate what should happen in our society? They should be able to tell you when and where to go? Its coming to that very forground. I hope you are happy with the choices our government makes for all of us. They don't live like we do and they make choices for us all the while their insurance is 10 times more than us.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Nina

    I'd like to see Mrs. Pokorny's critics write an article half as eloquent as hers to defend their opinions, instead of making insulting jabs, which is much easier to do.

    February 15, 2012 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • OC

      There have been arguments of equal or greater eloquence in the comments.

      February 15, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • C

      Amen to that.

      OC, please name one.

      February 15, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
  67. frenpen

    So much ugliness and hatred. Why can't a person speak their mind and write their opinion. Why are people so quick to trash others to the point of ugliness. If your Catholic, then be a Catholic and yes there are rules, which some don't really understand and sometimes question, but that is what is called Faith. We believe, we follow and we do our best. Don't call yourself a Catholic if you feel that birth control is acceptable. Just be another religion or none at all, but don't bash Catholics. Just move on.

    February 15, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dage

      ANSWER...
      Liberals do not like for you to say how you feel only they can and only their feelings matter. If you take communism and tell libs that they should indocter them in society they would be against it but if you tell them it is liberal to do so then they will adopt it 100% you have no more rights to speak or do what you want. Next is establishing how much you can make oh wait they are doing that too....

      February 15, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • JFox

        Sweetheart, no one is telling you what you MUST do, except the Catholic Church in this case. The "church" is mandating that women use the rhythm method or no method at all. What the proposed legislation does is actually offer women a CHOICE. Use it or don't use it. Fine, up to you. But if it's not available at all, well then that's not much of a choice, is it?

        February 15, 2012 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      You can't be Catholic and approve of birth control, abortion and the like. Period.

      Would I call myself a Muslim if I refused to pray towards Mecca and read the Qur'an?

      Own up to your faith, or get out!

      February 15, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Anne

        This is ridiculous. I am catholic and use birth control. So did my mother. And my sister. And all of the women in my church with whom I've discussed the topic. Both my mother and sister are abstinence educators (among other things), and thus are very much in line with what the Catholic Church teaches.

        Over 90% of Catholic women (and, logically, the majority of Catholic men) have used contraception in their life. Who are you to tell them that they are not Catholic? The council appointed to study the issue at Vatican II reccommended that the Church reverse themselves on birth control - were they not Catholic?

        I'm all for diversity of opinions here, but come on. You have no right to judge the veracity of a person's faith simply because you believe you have the moral highground.

        February 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kate

        Thank you, Justin. 100% in agreement.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jesus

        Catholics pic and choose what parts of being Catholic they want to be. Be it being a pediophile or not for a priest as well.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kate

        @ Anne. I'm in agreement with Justin. One cannot "be" Catholic if one does not follow the fundamental principles of the faith. I think you are simply too lazy to change faiths.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Elreyjones

      Go to Hait and make the same argument or parts of Mexico City. The Catholic church has had 5000 priests rape over 14,000 children. It stood by Kings and queens who murdered and beheaded their own peoples. Enough of its foolishness. Apparently miilons have already moved on because they are tired of this big large cult and its confusing voice that is not relevant to the masses these days.

      February 15, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      Who here has said that she doesn't have the right to speak her mind? She absolutely has that right, just as the commenters have the right to speak their mind.

      February 15, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Dwight

    "Should I so easily accept the implication that I need to alter a part of myself that’s working properly in order to be free or fulfilled?"
    No, you shouldn't be forced to take contraception. Is someone coercing you to take it?

    February 15, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Spinner49

    There is no impingement on religious freedom. Catholics are and will continue to be able to preach and practice anything they want in their personal lives and within their congregations. However, if they are engaged in a business that is open to to the public, and employs people of other faiths, why should the rules of business be different for them than for any other business? Every industry is subject to some sort of regulation they don't like. Deal with it.

    February 15, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dage

      You deal with it... Our faith doesn't allow us to pay for abortions.... it is known and dumbfounded that our president as a so called christian can mandate such a law. Soon your ok will be gored too so you can deal with that as if they start trenching on beliefs how long do you think it will take before they do something to you that you do not believe in????

      February 15, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Anna

        You aren't being very clear here so I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you are implying that the birth control pill causes abortions. It doesn't.

        Women should have the ability to choose whichever birth control they feel the most comfortable with, and there isn't anything wrong with that. Insurance companies pay for Viagra prescriptions and nobody bats an eyelash, but paying for birth control is an issue? We have a long way to go as a society.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Spinner49

        Well, Dage, 'they' do something I don't believe in all the time. I didn't believe in invading Iraq, I don't believe in tax breaks for the wealthy, there are a lot of things 'they' are doing that I don't believe in. But I still am paying for them with my taxes because I am engaged in the larger society. This is not about the government persecuting churches. Rather than persecuting them, the government gives them huge kickbacks in the form of tax free status, we are one of the most supportive countries in the world for religious organizations. This is about equal regulations for all similar businesses.

        February 15, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        Spinner there is a difference between not wanting to do something and something being against your religion. If any of those things are against your religion you should not have to pay for them. Contact your representatives and do something about it. All the more reason to get behind our cause. But this isn't money going to the government and these aren't taxes. Its money to insurance companies.

        February 15, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • sayheysandiego

      Thank you Spinner49, I can't believe some of the drivel being posted. They can't seem to make up their minds if they are for personal rights, state rights, or the church. All women should have the right to choose whatever course they want, without discussing with the govenment, the church or their neighbor. The healthcare law says only that insurance companies are required to provide coverage for those that desire it. And for Dage, a large majority of Catholic women do use birth control, one can still practice a religion while disagreeing with some rule of the church.

      February 15, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Hope

    I would coment but it appears many of you don't have the ability to reason and just eat up talking points. Maybe you should be the ones contracepting! Like Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood said, people with low IQs should be sterilized.

    February 15, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      Don't forget ethnic (ie: black) cleansing. Margaret Sanger was a nutcase!

      February 15, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Justin

    Well said, Valerie!

    Typical CNN left-wing baseless comments below!

    February 15, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Annie

      I disagree. While my fertility is my business , it is also mine to decide when or if I would like to ever have a child. I am not against Ms. Pokorny's options, I think she should do whatever she wants to do regarding her fertility. But I would argue that I should be given the same option.

      Although I can afford contraceptive medications,not every young woman is in this same financial situation. I would like to think all Americans, men and women are on a level playing field when it comes to healthcare and access to medication but I am not blind to the deep poverty and economic problems faced by people of all races, religions and genders. It's time to take off the rose colored glasses and realize that birth control saves countless women from bearing children they cannot care for or do not want or both. Legislation which mandates that birth control pills be a covered benefit is necessary in order to at least level that playing field. It is not a mandate that every woman take birth control. By the way, why is Viagra a covered medication? Oh, that's right, men can get whatever medication they would like. We all know Viagra is really just for procreating, right?

      February 15, 2012 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • KL

        How about taking off the rose colored glasses yourself? Why is contraception the priority when other medications still cost money, and lots of it. I dare you to go to your local drug store, ask the people in line if you're properly functioning system takes priority over their cancer, infection, heart failure, etc. Why do women of childbearing age get more resources and free elective meds than men, children, or post-childbearing adults?

        February 15, 2012 at 7:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pro-woman

        @Annie, thank you for your refreshingly intelligent, articulate and on-topic comment(s). It is astonishing to me that in this day and age there are people who feel that their own special interests supersede the benefit of society at large. We are such a "me" society that we all want our freedoms, and at the same time many of the "me's" want to choose for the masses their own version of moral and ethical choices. We must stand at the position of giving each individual the freedoms available to us, whether we like their choices or not, rather than forcing decisions on those with whom they don't agree.

        February 15, 2012 at 11:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      You're an idiot, simply put. Maybe this image will help you understand why she is against birth control: http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421106_298613013535854_156832574380566_863219_740883068_n.jpg

      February 15, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Neil Whittaker

    It's a shame that she doesn't respect the right of other woman to opt to use birth control. Shame, over 60% of Catholics use birth control, and have the moral and religious quandary of doing so against the dictates of their church.
    Oh well, what else can you expect from someone suffering from the mental illness called religion and basing their reasoning on books written (poorly) over 1600 years ago (give or take).

    February 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dage

      Its a shame to think that most don't need contraceptives. If you live your life correct then you don't need. Or population is out of control and using mandated health contraceptives isn't the solution. If you want to pay for something then why not cancer medications or diabetes meds? Why contraceptives? Sounds like we are no different than China. Next thing they will demand one child per family. Get a grip America and realize that a president shouldn't be making laws.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rachel

        Diabetes and cancer meds? Because no one ever gets cancer or diabetes for a poor lifestyle decision (like smoking or eating crap and not maintaining a healthy weight).

        If we're only going to treat people who are completely guilt free in regards to their condition. The hospitals are going to be very empty and the doctors are going to be very bored.

        February 15, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dage

        Rachel thats the point. How is giving out abotion pills and mandating it going to solve the issues of babies having babies. Having someone who believs that god decides who has a child or not is something that Catholics believe in. So why not be proactive in curing disease and helping folks pay for their meds instead of giving someone after morning pills and saying it is not abortion?

        February 15, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rachel

        And I don't see where it follows that giving women access to preventative birth control is going to increase the number of abortions or people seeking Plan B. Actually if more women have access to reliable preventative BC then less women will seek abortions.

        February 15, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • JFox

        "If you live your life correct (sic)?" According to WHOM? YOU? There are, surprisingly, some other ideas about "correct living"...

        February 15, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Gort1

    good lluck with that philosophy...when you have four or five kids. see how denegrated you feel at the food bank, food stamp line and using medicaid for medical needs..for them....youre a disgrace...

    February 15, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dage

      So tell me how many families have you seen out there that we pay for or live with subsidized incomes. Spreading the wealth is what you believe so tell me why you think someone who believs in respecting a womens thoughts and feelings gives you a right to call them ignorant when that term is something you support. Gort1 you need to read and learn about laws and why things are forced on us with out our conscent. That is why our families moved to this nation is to get away from Marxist beliefs.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pro-woman

        @Dage, where does he call her ignorant?

        February 15, 2012 at 11:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      My great-great grandfather had 18 children. My other great-great grandfather had 14. My great-grandfather had 10 and shared a one-bathroom home. They all did just fine.

      The media LOVES to lead you to believe that children cost ten times what they actually do.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Justin

        And no, they weren't Catholic.

        February 15, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Elreyjones

        Let the church be the church it has always been. It has stood the test of time for 2000 years and seen countless miracles within it. It has produced the world's greatest humanitarians and people of faith. I stand by the Church and against the Obama bin Biden regime.

        February 15, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bee

      I grew up in a family of eight, and my parents never used food stamps, food banks, welfare, medicaid or any other aid programs like that (unless you count the Pell Grants that helped pay for my university education). Just because a family has a lot of children doesn't mean they are irresponsible or ignorant. My parents are educated, hardworking, wonderful people, and I think they raised, and are raising, educated and hard working children. Were there things some of my classmates were able to do because there families had more money? Sure. I always wanted to go to a sleep-away summer camp, but there wasn't enough money for it. Did that prevent me or my siblings from becoming decent, well adjusted people? No. I excelled in secondary school, and won scholarships that put my through college.
      I wasn't an accident or the product of an oppressive Church hierarchy forcing my parents to have tons of kids. My parents wanted and care for me and all of my siblings. It is hugely offensive to imply that those who have large families are ignorant, brainwashed, irresponsible, stupid, lazy or any of the other awful things you implied in your comment. You want Ms. Pokorny to respect the choices of all, but then insult the choices of people you don't agree with. At least Ms. Pokorny didn't feel the need to name-call.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Natalie

      You shouldn't assume that people who have 4 or 5 children can't take care of them. I think research might show that those parents put a lot more effort and time into their families, while they work and pay the bills. I have four children. We are great. You shouldn't assume the worst. Furthermore, my kids have learned that they are not the center of the universe, that they need to contribute to society and that they don't get everything they want. Sometimes more is better. I'm sorry you won't get that for yourself.

      February 22, 2012 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
  74. Dust Bunny

    Um, unless you don't have regular cycles. Mine aren't reliable enough to use natural monitoring methods. I regulate them by . . . taking the pill. So I'm in a Catch 22, anyway.

    But it doesn't matter because I think being denied contraception denigrates me as a woman because it assumes that I don't know what I want or need and have to have somebody else make that decision for me. If you don't want to use it, don't use it, but don't take it away from me.

    February 15, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Zephyr

    She implies that the president says "To be a healthy woman, you need contraception." I don't think that is what he is saying at all. I believe what the president is saying is that to be a healthy woman, you need ACCESS TO contraception. Whether or not you utilize that access is up to you. In no way, shape or form does my access infringe on anyone else's religious freedom. I will say that Ms. Pokorny is trying to infringe on my freedoms through her religious beliefs.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • RobComment

      I totally agree with you. This woman is bending the entire conversation to something else because the real point can't be argued.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Jesii

    This article is ridiculous. Talk about being over-dramatic.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dage

      whats rediculous is that laws are being passed and mandated through a health plan. Making all of us buy health insurance. Gov. has ruined the hosing, banking, outsourcing manufacturing and now health care. So if you like the sound of how the VA is treating its vets then you should be totally happy with getting medicine and pushed out the door and your problems not getting resolved. THAT IS RIDICULOUS to pass laws on to people. Why not mandate car insurance house insurance along with all insurance like life as well. DRONE...

      February 15, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Fred

    Um, "basal body temperature" and "changes in cervical mucus"? Is there an app for that?

    February 15, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hope

      Actually there is. The method was developed out of Creighton medical school so if you want to take a bunch of Board Certified Ob/Gyn's to task have at it.

      February 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      There certainly is – my wife and I are using it!

      February 15, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
  78. AaronS

    I wish more people would use birth control, then maybe some jobs would open up in this great nation of ours..... 310 million and counting o boy!!!!

    February 15, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Aaron

    shes from texas. there is a reason why they are poster child for "illiteracy"

    February 15, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nina

      Your excellent use of grammar should nominate you for the poster child of illiteracy.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Friend

        SNAP! haha

        February 15, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
  80. bob

    Ct: Taxes are coming out of your paycheck no matter what. $3 for a pack of birth control or several hundred on an unwanted baby?

    February 15, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • lhpogo

      Try several million, if the child becomes a ward of the state in the foster care system.

      And don't give me that "Christians adopt unwanted children" BS. There are half a million children in foster care in the US right now. Why haven't they all been adopted yet?

      February 15, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dust Bunny

        Yeah, why are the Duggars having 20 kids when they could have, you know, had two and adopted 18? Seems to me that if you love kids *that much* you'd share the love a little more.

        February 15, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Jack Kieser

    This woman is an idiot. "Repect your religious freedom"? What about hte religious freedom of Atheist women who WANT contraception coverage, regardless of where they work (yes, an Atheist can work for a church)? Does this retard realize that mandated coverage is just that: "COVERAGE"?! She's not required to use it, she's not required to take it, she's never even required to get a perscription for it! So stupid, trying to convince us that requiring churches to at least PROVIDE the OPTION for the medicine == forcing her to take it. Stupid, stupid people. That's what religion does to you...

    February 15, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Reason

      If an atheist ran a business she should not be required to things against her "religion". Don't like it, work somewhere else or buy your own pills.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Report abuse |
  82. higher ed

    Contraception is a choice that many women make, for many reasons. Some want to space their children apart, which makes for healthier children and mother. Some want the right to pursue a career and either want to delay motherhood or put it off entirely. We are not required to have children. Some of us have underlying health reasons for needing it that have absolutely nothing to do with birth control. Whatever our reason, contraception should be covered, just like any other prescription medication. If you don't believe in it, don't use it. If you are a pharmacist, doctor, nurse, or anyone else who doesn't believe in it, don't force your religious beliefs on me. I don't share your belief and I should not be subject to your beliefs when dealing with my health. My health: my business.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Ct

    Nobody was out to ban it. They just don't want to PAY for it. Big difference.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Austin

      They don't have to pay for it, as per the concession the Obama administration proposed that is still being fought tooth and nail by the church*

      *And not the entire church, only those located in traditionally conservative states such as Florida and Texas. Catholic agencies responsible for health and human wellness have all supported the plan.

      February 15, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      Last time I checked, Catholics have a moral objection to being forced to provide contraception, since it is against their beliefs. It has nothing to do with pay. Do your research.

      Obama's "concession" is no concession at all. It's the same thing. Catholic organizations will still have to pay into their insurance.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • RobComment

        The non-Catholics have a moral objection to you denying them health coverage based on your personal beliefs.

        February 15, 2012 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Justin

        It's a two-way street, Rob. What are your suggestions?

        February 15, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Ct

    Toothpaste should be free too!

    February 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
  85. bob

    Esther, your statement makes no sense at all. "Antiabortionists"? The Pill prevents abortions. Unless you believe that a fertilized egg magically makes a baby. In which case, you are wrong. A few cells can potentially become one, so long as nothing goes wrong.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      Yes, Bob, a fertilized egg doesn't become a baby. It becomes a water buffalo.

      Your logic is asinine.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • william robert

        you're a dipsh1t justin. you go adopt the bast4rd children of the poor and then you'll have a leg to stand on. phuck1ng ret4rded...

        February 15, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        It has the potential to become a baby unless it is miscarried, moron.

        February 15, 2012 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • RespectForALLLife

      Sperm = 23 pairs of chromosomes
      Egg = 23 pairs of chromosomes
      Sperm fertilizes egg = 46 pairs of chromosomes
      46 pairs divide into 2 = 23 pairs of chromosomes

      At that moment we kn ow what colour hair / eyes the child has
      What his height and build will be
      The DNA
      The possibilty of which inherited diseases the child will have
      Personality traits etc etc--- the whole PERSON is there. It is a baby. Even abortion doctors know this. Having studied Reproductive Biology and genetics, I can tell you YOU ARE IGNORANT and misguided.

      February 15, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Gini

        By your logic, this makes GOD the biggest abortionist of all, since up to 1/2 of all "pregnancies naturally abort in the 1st trimester. many women did not even know they were pregnant. Hmmmm....I mean if GOD did not dictate the loss of the "pregnancy" who did?

        February 15, 2012 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pro-woman

        "Respect for all life"... except that of a woman who does not want to carry a pregnancy to term. LOGIC FAIL. Stay out of my uterus, and I'll stay out of your parenting.

        February 15, 2012 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Reason

      Every country that has legalized contraceptives has seen an increase in abortions. Planned Parenthood's own data says half the women coming in for abortions were taking contraceptives. Do the research.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
  86. IB Funmilayo

    You can't pluralize "denigrate". There's nothing like denigrates in the dictionary! Nitwit!

    February 15, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • D'oh!!!

      In English, one conjugates a verb to make it agree with the subject. I run, you run, he/she/it runs. I denigrate, you denigrate, he/she/it denigrates. Thanks for the laugh.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Reason

        Anything of substance to contribute or just personal attacks and nit picky grammar because you have nothing else to say?

        February 15, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Thinks2010

    I'm glad I read this opinion piece. I started to read it with a great deal of skepticism, but I found Ms. Pokomy had some valuable things to say, but I find that under the coverage compromise each woman's religious freedom is preserved as well as her reproductive freedom by leaving the choice to use contraceptives or not. As a previous comment poster, JEM, points out, leaving the decision to each woman is the best way to respect women.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • RobComment

      I agree, I think Christians should pick their battles better. Fighting to deny medical coverage to women? Talk about some dogma.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
  88. bob

    Let me translate that for y'all:

    "We're a church run by celibate old men. We don't like the idea of giving a woman any semblance of control over her life, especially her fertility. After all, how else are we going to control women? In the old days, we kept them barefoot, pregnant, and too exhausted to leave a relationship. Now, they have birth control, and they don't need a man's permission to use it. Now, we don't like that, so we're going to denounce it. Denouncing it isn't going to help, so we're going to promote NFP, which is essentially the same as birth control (you know, actively trying to prevent pregnancy), but don't look too hard into it. We know, we had to do lots of mental gymnastics to get here. NFP is somewhat reliable, but there still is a chance a woman can get pregnant. We're going to pretend women are in control of their fertility, but there is still a chance for an oops baby. And they'll be stuck with a baby they may not want. So there, we'll go with that, and quietly hope that more women become pregnant as a result of our beliefs. That way, we can keep making more Catholics and we can pretend that women have a say in their fertility. Problem solved."

    February 15, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dage

      bob you miss the entire point. How many laws need to pass before you can open your eyes to not having real freedom..

      February 15, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
  89. Kathryne

    The point here is that you are not required to take birth control. But do not denigrate me and tell me that because you don't like it, I can't have it. And don't tell me that "god" doesn't want me to take it. You practice birth control the way you want to and let me handle my own ovaries, okay? Because often times birth control pills have little to do with birth control. Often times they are prescribed for medical conditions having very little to do with preventing pregnancy. The true genius of women is that we get that, that we understand that our health is our personal business and no one else's. Bottom line, if you are against contraceptive medication, don't take it. But stop telling me that I can't have it either.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • irritated

      You've about summed it up.

      February 15, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • lizzyl

      Well, then I guess you are OK with just shelling out your virtue for a quickie. And for your info – NFP if practiced properly is more reliable than BCP.

      February 15, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • jzerm

        Hey, well, guess what? If i want to shell out my so called virtue for a quickie, is that not my right as an american? If i did that in some fundamentalist countries I could be publicly stoned to death. Is that your vision for America?

        February 15, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • RobComment

        You are a walking example of why I hate religion. Good luck on your eternal life, I hope it drags on forever.

        February 15, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Pills = 1% failure rate.

        NFP = 25% failure rate.

        Which would you choose?

        February 15, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Abby

        Bob, the Planned Parenthood website says that Natural Family Planning has a failure rate of 25% if it is NOT USED PROPERLY. Credible medical schools and even the World Health Organization have done studies that show that the Pill and Scientific Natural Family Planning have comparable failure rates. I'll let you do the research, it's not hard to find...

        February 15, 2012 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Gini

        Here we go again, harping on a woman's virtue. Please stop that tired old argument. Plenty of women who are married and some even already a parent, practice birth control. Doing so has nothing to do with virtue. Please get your head out of the sand and have a better argument than that tired overused non argument.

        February 15, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • KL

      There is not one single medical condition that OC's "fix." Well, they fix them as much as a band-aide fixes the cut. OC's do nothing more than mask or fake the body into thinking, during use, that something different is going on. If a woman has a medical condition, from hormonal disorders to endo to you name it... there are actual treatments and surgeries that fix the issue... instead of glossing over it. The de facto treatment has become, "The Pill" without even looking at actual... treatments for the cause of distress. The moment the woman comes off of them, the condition is still there... Shoot, even NAPRO technology, which utilizes biomarkers and symptoms along with the Creighton Method has a MUCH higher success rate for achieving pregnancy than IVF...

      February 15, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Just Me

        This is a terribly laughable comment!!!

        Yes, a surgery can fix my female "problem" – it is called a complete hysterectomy. Or, maybe I can take the pill, possibly have children of my own one day, and not have osteoporosis (since based on your comment me taking synthetic hormones to prevent that is also just a band-aid). And, what advanced degree do you have to be doling out medical advice on such things anyhow?

        Using your logic, it seems that there are many prescription and/or natural medicinal products that should not be available or rather that people should not take. For example, many oncology products are just "band-aids" for cancer patients too because many of these treatments are nothing more than palliative and do not actually decrease tumor burden. Yet, they may make their final days or months of life much more comfortable so that they can actually enjoy the time with their family and maybe come to peace with their situation. So...should we also not offer cancer patients these drugs because they gloss over the real biological issue, the cause of their stress as you put it?

        February 15, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Reason

        Just Me, read through the NaPro Technology site, do your research, THEN comment...

        February 15, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Bgh

    Religious freedom? What about individual freedom to make that choice yourself not an organization making it for you. Here is another example of what I pick and choose to believe. The bible portrays women as servant to man. It portrays women as second class citizens. Are the Catholics going to turn away or dismember a woman who chooses birth control?

    February 15, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      Second class citizens, eh? Please show me where it says this in the bible. Last time I checked, the bible states that all humans are of equal dignity and worth.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Gini

        1 Corinthians 14:34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."[1 Cor. 14:34–35]

        1 Timothy 2:12 ("I suffer not a woman") "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."[1 Tim. 2:11-12]

        "[I desire women] to array themselves in a befitted catastola,[15] with reverence and restraint, not with braids, or gold, or pearls, or costly garments. But as becomes women proclaiming godliness, with good deeds."[1 Tim. 2:9–10]

        "Let a woman learn, quietly, in all subjection [to God]."[1 Tim. 2:11]
        "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord," and "the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church…."[Eph. 5:22–24]

        I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent."[1 Tim. 2:11
        letters to the Colossians and to the Ephesians, which order women to "be subject in everything to their husbands,"

        A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man."[1 Cor. 11:3–9]

        NEED I GO ON ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES VIEWS ABOUT THE POSITION OF WOMEN, IN LIFE IN CHURCH?

        February 15, 2012 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marie

      Like, an organization like the government telling individual employers what they have to pay for?

      February 15, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
  91. Aaron

    I can appreciate where you are coming from, but I disagree with the idea that contraception is considered "The way the modern health woman operates". The desire to use contraception stems from the desire not to have children, a desire that is perfectly within a person right's to have. I reject the idea that the use of contraception equates to an inability to control ones baser urges, that spits in the face of women who use it as a safety net "In Case" something happens. Abstainence is good and well, but a woman should have the freedom to chose from herself and not be overly influenced by society (which I agree is the case) but also not overly influenced by anything else including religion. Her choice should be hers and everyone should be made to deal with it. Which is why the mandate was formed, because people are smart enough to take the contraception if they want it OR not take it if they don't. It's all about choice.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • KL

      I don't think that until you've been laughed at by a doctor or called a liar by the doctor you can fully appreciate where women, like myself, come from in regards to OC's. I have, btw, had both happen to me. It is very much the way "modern women opperate." You turn 14 and bam, Guardasil and BCP. The new right of passage.

      February 15, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Report abuse |
  92. NM Ray

    Good for Ms. Pokorny! I like ice tea. I think that everybody should drink ice tea with every meal. But, I don't see any reason that I need to make my government write or enforce laws to make everybody else live according to the way I have chosen to live my life. If some people want to drink coffee, and others want to drink sodas or water, that's ok with me. It has absolutely no impact on what I will choose to drink with my next meal!

    Are you listening Ms. Pokorny? You are free to make any decision you want as long as you understand that you do not have the right to make any decision that will impact my choice!

    February 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marie

      The difference is you are not being forced to buy ice tea or water for anyone.

      February 15, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Gini

        Marie, I am being forced to pay for your church, because your church owns massive amounts of property and does not pay taxes on it! Also our tax dollars are also sent to help support Catholic Charities...a worthwhile organization so i don't make noise about that, so lets have a little give and take here... you pay for something you don't like and I will continue to do the same.

        February 15, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • SF

        Marie,
        No you don't have to pay for their Ice Tea or Coffee. You have to pay for every meal that the rest of their family eats for the next 18 years of their lives, longer if the child is born w/ lifelong health conditions. If the catholic church wants their exemption from coverage of contraceptives then you better start kicking in more when they pass the basket or collection plate during service because you need to step up and start paying for all those babies spawned by your religion not wanting to allow for 99.8% effective family planning. Your church trying to exercise it's "religious freedom" is what causes my taxes to be so high. Next time your in your church look around you, can all of you parisioners pay for a private school education, get their kid to an from school daily, health insurance, clothing, school books, food, medical costs, daycare, home, heating and any other necessary cost so that I don't have to pay for your parishoners babies. when your church and church members can 100% stand alone w/out any tax payers assistance like my husband and I do then maybe they can opt out. Catholics like abstinence so lets talk about that. I want the Catholic church to recommend that their members also abstain from Medicaid for thier kids, WIC, food stamps, welfare, public schools, school breakfast and lunches that are reduced, subsidized housing, dependent tax credits for daycare and school age children, financial aid your kids. I wonder how many Catholic owned business would still be able to operate if their non-catholic employees sought employment elsewhere as many on this page suggest. Their hospital sure wouldn't have enough nurses.
        So I'm going to sit back and enjoy my Iced Tea and hope I don't have to pay for the expansion of the Catholic narrowminded, outdated beliefs that I see in the article and amongst several on here claiming to be catholics.

        For those of you that are Catholics that opt to use contraceptives for whatever reason, remember the adage its better to ask for forgiveness than permission. According to the Catholic religion you'll be forgiven for rape, murder, theivery, and any other crime you commit if you seek absolution, so why not contraceptives.

        Finally, WELCOME TO AMERICA WHERE CHURCH AND STATE IS SEPERATE. YOUR FREEDOM OF RELIGION WILL NOT IMPINGE ON MY FREEDOM OF CHOICE AS A WOMAN! If you don't like American Laws leave and save me a few more tax dollars when I don't have to pay for your Medicare.

        February 16, 2012 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Jen

        SF-

        If I could print your comment out and frame it, I would. It should be made into educational pamphlets. A+ ma'am, A+

        February 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marie

      What if you were Baptist and drinking alcohol was against your religion and the govt mandated you to buy alcohol for others to drink with their next meal?

      February 15, 2012 at 10:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • samantha

        What if you are obese and a diabetic type 2? Insurance helps to pay for those meds diabetics need when in many cases the loss of weight would eliminate the diabetes. How about the alcoholic with the bad liver, or the smoker with the bad lungs? How about the person who like to drive fast and ends up in the hospital? All of these people who have insurance have the results of their life styles paid for.....and you are helping the insurance pay for them!

        February 19, 2012 at 1:02 am | Report abuse |
  93. cupcake

    I'm glad there is easy, inexpensive contraception available. Reproduction IS a curse to be avoided as far as some people are concerned. There are countless unwanted children born every year who could attest to this fact. If life is such a wonderful gift from a loving god, why does that same loving god allow so much human suffering by the unwanted and unloved of the human population? Telling people to just abstain from intimacy is downright ridiculous and extremely unrealistic. Less contraception means more abortion, or more unwanted children.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  94. irritated

    If you are an organization in this country, you have to follow the rules like everyone else. If you employ people who are not of the catholic faith, why would you impose your beliefs on them? And how does contraception go against your belief? Would you rather this woman not want the baby and just abort it when she gets pregnant instead of just preventing the pregnancy. The Catholic Church was formed off the crusades – what ever happened to though shalt not kill? or does that simply not apply to the church if they say its ok when it's in their best interest? Come on now... these beliefs were formulated when we thought the earth was flat and the sun, stars and the universe went around us, like.. we were the center of the universe; if you still believe in god then you might as well still believe in all that. Please, keep your beliefs to yourselves and let the rest of us people who are in touch with reality deal with what's best for everyone.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Anonymous

    No, your stupidity denigrates you more.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
  96. hktelemacher

    "But from there, the defense sounds like slick advertising for the contraceptive industry: To be a healthy woman, you need contraception. All the successful women use it. You can’t live without it."

    Straw man is very straw-y.

    "The Obama administration’s primary talking point on this issue is that “Every woman should be in control of the decisions that affect her own health.”

    I agree. 100 percent."

    But women whose health insurance does not cover contraception are less in control of those decisions because of cost. Your position sounds somewhat less than 100% agreement.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Sigh...

    The author is in a hurry to be righteously offended. Having the ability to make reproductive decisions is not the same as being forced to abandon motherhood. Allowing a woman to choose when to have kids based on her current life situation is just good common sense.

    February 15, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Esther

      Remember that some contraceptives, like the pill, can be antiabortionists. I don't see how killing a child can be "common sense".

      February 15, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Emelie

        No. It is not. The "pill" doesn't cause abortions. End of. It prevents ovulation. IUD,s prevent the egg from ever attaching to the uterus. Hormonal contraceptions pervent ovulation by mimicing natural pathways, like the ones at play when a woman is brestfeeding and can't get pregnant. There is no "killing" involved in any contraceptive methods. Abortion is a different argument completely. Contraception can be argued as natural as taking SSRIs for depression, or statins for loweing cholesterol, all drugs which operate by natural pathways in a synthetic way aming to modify nature's course.

        February 16, 2012 at 4:17 am | Report abuse |
  98. marc

    This is so stupid – the catholic church profits money, takes tax free donations, pays no taxes, acts 100% like a corporation, but doesnt have to play by the rules of one. It's the perfect scheme, oh wait..

    February 15, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
  99. JEM

    While I commend Ms. Pokomy for her standards, morals and intelligence, not every one follows her strict beliefs. I would just as soon not have to buckle up when I drive but because not everyone drives as cafefully as I do, the belts, as well as other safety features that add to the cost a vehicle, are now mandatory. The bottom line is that nothing in this coverage forces any woman to use any sort of contraception, ever. It remains a womans choice and that, I believe, is the best way to respect women

    February 15, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Esther

      Nothing in this coverage forces woman to USE contraception, but it does force us to pay for them. And if Catholics believe it is wrong and against their consciences for anyone to use them, so it follows that to pay for them is wrong. You shouldn't be forced to pay for something you believe is wrong, wouldn't you agree?

      February 15, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • TechySpec

        Honey, go back to the cave man era whence you came. It's teh 21st century and you aren't paying for a thing! If you want to shove your 16th century beliefs down someone's throat – make it your own throat. It's a DEMOCROCY and we all have to live with it. If you don't like it I hear Korea or Cuba will take you.

        February 15, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • OC

        "You shouldn't be forced to pay for something you believe is wrong, wouldn't you agree?" Sure you should. Some people from other countries may think it's wrong for women to receive a free public education, but we still do it here in America. Because sane people think there's nothing wrong with it.

        Generally, we write our laws around what sane people believe.

        February 15, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • durundal

        this is society, we share the costs of services – by the way and yet again, contraception also regulates hormones, and treats symptoms for female related diseases, and in the long run saves having to pay for a lifetime state run orphanages and services. There are plenty of things that my tax dollars go towards that I might individually not support, but do so because on the flip side should I be asked to bear the full burden of the services I prefer I WOULD BE UNABLE TO AFFORD. You dont even want to know how much a single mile of highway costs to produce and splitting it between a couple thousand versus several million makes a big difference......So dont be a F@king clueless breeder, and use your noggin

        February 16, 2012 at 8:59 am | Report abuse |
      • Contraception does NOT denigrate me!

        I don't believe in war but I had to pay for several of those!
        Wouldn't you rather pay for a pill now that more welfare later?

        February 16, 2012 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
      • Contraception does NOT denigrate me!

        I don't believe in war but I had to pay for several of those!

        Wouldn't you rather pay for a pill now than more welfare later?

        February 16, 2012 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Justin

      Esther is correct. Obama & Sebelius are forcing its citizens to do things against their moral judgment. Plain and simple.

      February 15, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • mark

        If you look up 'moron' in any dictionary, it says "see Justin".

        February 15, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Marie

        do you have a page number for that reference mark? I didn't see it.

        February 15, 2012 at 10:31 pm | Report abuse |
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