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Veto promised on same-sex marriage bill in NJ
David DeGiralamo and Dan Allen are fighting for the right to be married in New Jersey. They’re raising two children in Morristown.
February 16th, 2012
03:39 PM ET

Veto promised on same-sex marriage bill in NJ

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By David Ariosto and Steve Kastenbaum, CNN

(CNN) - New Jersey lawmakers have passed a bill that would provide same-sex couples the right to wed - a move put forth in defiance of the state's Republican governor, who's vowed to veto the measure and has instead called for a referendum to settle the issue.

State assembly members on Thursday voted 41-33, with two members abstaining, in favor of the "Marriage Equality and Religious Exemption Act." The Senate approved the measure on Monday by a 24 to 16 count.

But Gov. Chris Christie, the subject of political speculation as a possible GOP vice presidential candidate, has said the issue "should not be decided by 121 people in the statehouse in Trenton."

The governor is expected to "act swiftly" to knock it down when the bill reaches his desk, said Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for Christie.

Recent polling, meanwhile, suggests that New Jersey voters are slightly in favor of legalizing such unions.

Fifty-two percent of state voters approve the measure, according to a recent Quinnipiac University poll.

Still, Christie's push for a referendum may offer a few insights into the governor's political acumen, which continues to excite the Republican party.

A popular vote would largely absolve him from making good on a pledge to veto a bill coming from a Democrat-controlled legislature - a move, analysts say, that may help preserve his conservative credentials for the national stage while also adhering to the apparent will of New Jersey voters.

But Christie's Democratic opponents argue that a referendum shouldn't be used to decide civil rights issues, pointing to historic legislative and judicial decisions regarding the rights of African-Americans and women.

If Christie vetoes the measure, "the battle for overriding the veto begins," said Steven Goldstein, a spokesman for the organization Garden State Equality, which has lobbied for the bill.

Lawmakers would need a two-thirds majority in both houses to override a veto and will have until the legislative session ends in January 2014 to do so. But the bill's opponents have pledged to the block the potential override.

"Since the legislature will have two years to come up with the votes to override the veto, there will be significant pressure placed upon those legislators," said Carlos Ball, a law professor at Rutgers University in Newark.

At the same time, lawmakers in New Jersey are expected to pay close attention to upcoming state elections in New York, looking for signs of fallout after four Republican state senators sided with Democrat Gov. Andrew Cuomo to legalize same-sex marriage.

New Jersey currently allows for civil unions, which Christie says he supports, though a series of discrimination lawsuits are also currently working their way through the state courts.

With Hawaii and Delaware joining the list last month, five other states currently recognize civil unions.

A similar battle is also shaping up in Maryland, where Gov. Martin O'Malley - a Democrat - has pushed for his state to join the seven others that allow same-sex couples to marry.

Washington state, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Iowa, New York and the District of Columbia, currently allow such marriages.

Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire signed a bill to change the law on Monday.

soundoff (786 Responses)
  1. Jessi

    Let the NJ residents vote, NOT the government. We are NOT a communist dictatorship country!!

    Majority always win, so shut up.

    AMERICA IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND WE SHOULD ENFORCE CHRISTIAN LAW!

    February 16, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mithead

      If the majority votes are what counted in this country Gore would have beat Bush, but they don't. Your opinion is so uneducated it shows what is truly wrong with our country. Actually, I'll stop here, you are not worth it....

      February 16, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Jessi,

      Dream on. The majority doesn't always rule in our country and not everyone counts the same.

      FACT: if everyone was equal and all votes were equal in this country, George W. Bush would not have been president since Al Gore got the most votes from the people who voted.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • rlowens1

      1 – This is NOT a Christian country. it was founded by mostly deists who were fleeing religious persecution – Christian persecution.

      2 – The Bible makes no mention whatsoever of any of the principles of freedom and civil liberties upon which this country was founded – not one. Read the Bible cover to cover, as I have, and you will discover that it does not mention any of the principles upon which this country was founded.

      3 – Civil rights are not a matter of popular opinion. They are innate and inalienable. They are not subject to the approval of others.

      4 – The US Supreme Court will put you clowns in your place – again.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Alex K

        the bible does mention rights.
        For example it says to treat converts, widows, and orphans equally, pay workers on time, not to confiscate possesions because of a loan. there are many more

        February 17, 2012 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      Jessi – "AMERICA IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY AND WE SHOULD ENFORCE CHRISTIAN LAW!"

      You mean like Leviticus 20:13 – the 'God-told-me-to-kill-Gays' law? Thank goodness it's not going to happen, no matter how much you might want it... oh and if you're a woman, why do you want to be relegated to 2nd-class status because the Bible says all sorts of restrictive things about women?

      February 17, 2012 at 2:16 am | Report abuse |
    • bczu

      Funny, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and many of our other founding fathers thought believing in one God that ruled all was foolish. They even believed in aliens. America was built on escaping religious persecution from nut jobs such as yourself. By the way, the majority can not vote on the civil rights of the minority. Check out the 1915 vote to allow women to vote. It didn't pass. The legislature had to step up and put it through. So think about that for a second before you spew your religious non sense. If we followed what you wanted. You wouldn't even have the right to vote.

      February 17, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  2. MANOFGOD

    Leviticus 18 (read the whole thing). Oh by the way don't try to justify yourself with shellfish or being a servant.

    February 16, 2012 at 9:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      MANOFGOD,

      Leviticus also says “If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death” (Lev. 20:9).

      So what was your point?

      February 16, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • MANOFGOD

        So I guess you are OK with pedophilia and beastiality?

        February 16, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        MANOFGOD,

        Staying on topic seems to be VERY difficult for you. Make the effort.

        Leviticus also says “If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death” (Lev. 20:9).

        So what was your point?

        February 16, 2012 at 9:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ozymandias71

        Posters like MANOFGOD just keep desperately trying to 'reframe' the debate when confronted with the facts, don't they?

        February 17, 2012 at 2:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Primewonk

      Leviticus 20:13 If a man has se.xual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death

      Are you doing this? How many gay folks have you killed?

      February 17, 2012 at 8:45 am | Report abuse |
    • bczu

      Separation of church and state anyone? Oh by the way being a bigot is a sin. Have fun explaining that to your maker.

      February 17, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • bczu

      What a poor analogy, "ManofGod". Pedophilia and bestiality both have victims and they are both illegal. What do two consenting adults( no victim) trying to get married have to do with that? Oh and last I checked being gay wasn't illegal. Again, poor analogy. Try harder next time.

      February 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Difference between Abrahamic religion

    JUDAISM/ISLAM
    – says that no human can ever die for the sins of others
    CHRISTIANITY
    – says that Jesus died for the sins of mankind

    JUDAISM/ISLAM
    – says that all humans are born pure, and innocent
    CHRISTIANITY
    – some say that all humans are born with 'original sin'.

    JUDAISM
    – says that G-d would never allow/enable a 'virgin birth'
    CHRISTIANITY/ISLAM
    – says that Mary gave birth, though a virgin

    JUDAISM
    – says that no man gets a 'second coming'
    CHRISTIANITY/ISLAM
    – says that Jesus will have a 'second coming'

    JUDAISM/ISLAM
    – says that every human should speak directly to G-d
    CHRISTIANITY
    – Jesus claims in the 'new testament' that the 'only way' to G-d is via him

    JUDAISM/ISLAM
    – says G-d is one, indivisible, cannot be separated into three aspects/incarnations
    CHRISTIANITY
    – some sects speaks of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit

    JUDAISM
    – says that we are ALL equally G-d's children
    CHRISTIANITY
    – says that Jesus was 'god's son' above all others
    ISLAM
    – some Muslims claim that the prophets are perfect and have never sinned, others believe the prophets sinned and repented

    JUDAISM
    – has no concept of 'hell'
    CHRISTIANITY
    – *some* Christians believe non-believers go to 'hell'
    ISLAM
    – most Jews and Christians and all non-Jews/non-Christians go to hell though some state that only Allah knows who will end up in hell

    JUDAISM
    – has no 'devil', the Jewish 'Satan' is just an ordinary angel, under G-d's control
    CHRISTIANITY
    – describes 'Satan' as a devil and 'fallen' angel
    ISLAM
    – Satan was a jinn created from fire

    JUDAISM
    – the 'messiah' will be a normal, mortal man who must fulfill all the Jewish messianic prophecies in one normal, mortal lifetime
    CHRISTIANITY
    – Jesus was the 'messiah' and will fulfill the prophecies when he 'returns'
    ISLAM
    – believes Jesus was a prophet, not a “son of G-d”. Mohammad is the last prophet

    JUDAISM
    – says that the righteous of ALL faiths will reach 'gan eden' or 'garden of eden'.
    CHRISTIANITY
    – some Christians insist that only those who 'know Christ' can reach heaven
    ISLAM
    – some Jews and Christians will reach Paradise, Muslims reach paradise and have it better than Jews and Christians. Many Muslims believe that G-d judges all equally.

    JUDAISM
    – The “law”/covenant is seen as a blessing, not a burden that can never be fulfilled. Being perfect isn’t the point in Judaism. Being aware of the 613 commandments, we have G-d on our minds almost hourly. That is part of the covenant, we obey G-d’s laws and G-d ensures Judaism will survive forever.
    CHRISTIANITY
    – Views the commandments as restrictive and impossible (except the 10 in stone). It is believed in Christianity that the death of Jesus was necessary because living by the laws is impossible and view the commandments as something of a curse.
    ISLAM
    – Views religious laws as part of the religion and of being observant and submissive to G-d, much as Jews do.

    JUDAISM
    – forbids Jews from trying to convert anyone to Judaism
    CHRISTIANITY
    – believes in actively 'witnessing' and encouraging people to convert to Christianity
    ISLAM
    – all must convert to Islam or pay a fine to remain Christian or Jewish and live as 2nd class citizens (all others must convert or die)

    JUDAISM
    – The Torah remains unchanged
    CHRISTIANITY
    – differences from the original Torah
    ISLAM
    – claims the Torah and Christian bible were corrupted (with no proof)

    JUDAISM/ISLAM
    – no concept of original sin
    CHRISTIANITY
    – some sects of Christianity believe in “original sin” to justify the need for a savior. Others believe that humankind cannot keep from sinning and requires a savior to cleanse them.

    February 16, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • rlowens1

      I don't care about the differences between them. I laugh at all the imaginary friend religions and the clowns who believe in them.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex K

      you have some facts wrong about Judaism.

      Jews do believe in hell, it's called gehinom, jews do have a concept of reincarnation and past lives,
      it is not forbidden to convert anybody it's just not done openly or encouraged to make sure that the person converting is sincere.

      February 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
  4. wrongway

    This story is good for nothing but a good VOMIT. SICK, DISGUSTING and NAUSEOUS.

    February 16, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Big Spender

      You will surly be vomiting when your in Hell with all the stench in there.and you will be in torment for ever and ever and ever, You will surly wished you have repented and asked jesus to come into your life, In Hell you will not get a second chance. you had made your choice.

      February 17, 2012 at 2:43 am | Report abuse |
  5. MANOFGOD

    Sperm and feces do not mix!

    February 16, 2012 at 9:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Why is that relevent? Millions of heteros do that too. Try hard to stay with the topic of gay marriage.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joshua

      Your desire to discuss a topic that supposedly grosses you out makes me wonder if you're not suppressing something. I've seen a number of comments on here from you as though you're infatuated.

      February 17, 2012 at 12:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Yes they do, it's called Santorum. Google it!

      February 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Joel

    I feel as an American everybody should be treated equal. So if gays can’t have the same benefits as married straights they should take away the perks married people receive from the government.
    Social Security is my biggest gripe. He is a TRUE example:
    Twin brothers started work on an auto assembly line and worked side by side for 40 years(Union jobs). One was married to a healthy educated lazy person, no children, kept a dirty house. The other was single no children. At age 65 both brothers retired and collected $1600 social security per month. The lazy person who NEVER worked receives $800 per month for never working. After all “they say, she is collecting off her husbands.” Something is wrong here. (her husband is still alive) Not fair to the single brother, he paid the same amount into Social Security. She should get ZERO, until her husband dies. SO they are getting $2,400 per month, when the single brother, who paid in the same amount of money receives $1,600. Is this fair to the single STRAIGHT MAN.?
    Their sister who stayed home and worked at a local store for 48 years, kept a clean house and took care of their parents receives ONLY $625 per month.
    This is a shot version of a TRUE story, it’s my family.

    February 16, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
  7. karma

    The governor is not very intelligent.

    February 16, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Fred Zeppelin

    If i can get 51% of people behind me, we can pass a law,
    and send all Christians, and republicans to a concentration camp.
    Its only fair, right ?

    One state at a time.
    We will get our rights as Americans.
    Hang tuff people.

    February 16, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • MANOFGOD

      Do you really like bu_tt ba_nging that bad?

      February 16, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        MANOFGOD,

        "Do you really like bu_tt ba_nging that bad?"

        Ask the millions of heteros who do that. Try to stay on topic next time.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • guy

        Observer, this guy manofgod has a vivid imagination and keeps thinking about butt banging and sperm and feces....closet case?

        February 16, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        guy,

        I have no idea why anyone would be obsessed with detailed s-x lives of others. Sounds perverted to me.

        February 16, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tom

        I don't really enjoy it that bad, I enjoy it that good. Maybe you should do it more often. Apparently you have not done it enough to enjoy it yet!!

        February 17, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Patricksday

    The Republican Governor of New Jersey, will have this stain on his record and when his family has a Gay child he will know the History of Gay Treatment and know it could of be a Human Right that his relative denied 4% of the population, like allowing Blacks to Marry outside their race.

    February 16, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • tokencode

      All depends if Christie will do what's right versus what's "right" .

      February 16, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • geekgirl42

      Gov Christie has made it clear he intends to continue playing politics with people's lives and do what's best for his own political career.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Adam

    I am a gay male. I did not choose to be gay. If I could change myself, I would, but I can't. You can't imagine how depressing it is to constantly read about how some people think my lifestyle is "perverted" or "against God's will". If it is, why did God make me this way? Or that my right to marry someone I love should be put up to a vote. I think that it is hopeless for someone of my generation to have this "right" and can only hope it is better for the next generation, if people would just understand that being gay is NOT a choice.

    February 16, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • tokencode

      Excuse the bigots and hate-mongers, I think some of them are born that way too....

      February 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • geekgirl42

      I know a lot of fair-minded straight people who understand that it's not a choice, it's just that the most vocal people are the ones in opposition to gay rights. Many of the most opposed are people who themselves have buried same gender attractions in a tomb of self-hatred and they project all their self-loathing outward.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Adam,

      Those Christians who use use the Bible to pick on an "abomination" (like eating lobster), are only HYPOCRITES who just pick and choose what "sins" they want to make an issue of and ignor their own "sins".

      Forget about what the Christians h0mophobes say. IF they actually cared about sin, they'd start with the FAR FAR GREATER number of Christian adulterers.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Do Not Disassemble

      Hugs Adam.
      The hate goes away slowly, but it is going away.
      I grew up with Stonewall 1969,
      Woodstock generation.
      I found peace by finding people straight or gay, who accepted me as i am.
      I have a few "battle" scars, but i turned out OK.
      You will too.
      Hate is a wasted emotion,
      It benefits no-one.
      Dont let thier hate get to you.
      You will win, they will lose.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mother

      Don't feed the troll lol

      February 16, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Adam is a troll

      February 16, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Davis

      You just need some help

      February 16, 2012 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Center Of The Universe

    I see that the human race has not yet evolved.
    Your Jesus could walk on water , and raise the dead.

    Your God created heaven and earth.

    Yet, you fight over Gods creatures.
    You pass judgement, and condemn what God has created.

    All over a book, that God did not write.

    Time for this experiment to come to an end.
    You will see your true creators.

    End transmission.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • tokencode

      What about the more than 50% of the world's population that doesn't believe in Jesus? Did he create them? Please stop using your book of fairy tales to infringe on the rights of people who obviously do not share your medieval and bigotted point of view.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • bitOwelly

        Methinks maybe you need to re-read. I know Christian terminology can be a trigger for some folks. Take a deep breath and try again.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • JT

      token, you appear to have completely misread the post you replied to.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • tokencode

      hmmm..... welll.... yes ... I guess my work here is done then.....

      February 16, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • JT

      To be fair it was kind of a weird post, but certainly not the ranting of a thumper.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      And you are passing judgment on us.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Report abuse |
  12. geekgirl42

    I think we should also have a referendum on limiting food for fat people. Being fat is unnatural and is outward proof of their sinful gluttony. Fat people make my health care costs higher and I have a right to not have them spilling over in my airplane seat next to me. Let's put it to a vote. Let's put it to a vote! Limit food for fat people!

    February 16, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Max Powers

    Go back to the 20th Century, Christie!

    February 16, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
  14. My name is Jose Jimenez

    When is Fatso going to veto the bill?

    February 16, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Report abuse |
  15. brian

    Christie better veto this or I'm leaving NJ for good. Thats a disgrace that it would even make its way to his desk. God created Adam & Eve not adam and steve.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Brian,

      The Bible also said that people divorcing and remarrying are committing adultery.

      Remarriage is allowed in New Jersey, so pack your bags. Bye.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • michael

      And who created Steve?

      February 16, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Max Powers

      Yes Brian, God created all of us, even the bigots.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • JT

      So you're saying that a book of myths written by men who lived ages ago should selectively determine the freedoms and civil rights of people who are alive today. And that seems alright to you?

      February 16, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Steve created the parallel civilization of Nod, where Cain went and got married.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike Johnson

      Brian,

      Just admit that you are afraid that Gays will show how gay marriage will be done right!! What ever happened to Seperation of church and state?

      February 16, 2012 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Buh-bye Brian

      Brian. I bet you were also against equal rights for minorities and women. Get over yourself already.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • tokencode

      NJ will be better off with out you, and since you're moving, check out Tehran. I think you'll get along with the neighbors well and I hear its beautiful this time of year.............

      February 16, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Going In Circles

      If you believe the story about Adam & Eve,
      then all of mankind is from incest.
      Would love to hear your take on that.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • guy

        No no going in circles, you have it all wrong...i went to a seminar the other day and its ok, because Adam and Eve were perfect beings, so since their children were so close to perfection its ok that they screwed each other...WHERE DO THEY COME UP WITH THIS STUFF???

        February 16, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      Ah, 'Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve', eh?

      So to you, Brian, it breaks down like this:

      Gay Marriage = Bad, Immoral, etc. etc. etc.
      Populating the world via INCEST = Good, Godly, moral, etc. etc. etc.

      Wow... seriously?

      February 17, 2012 at 2:25 am | Report abuse |
  16. Seaturtle123

    Oh such a big man (literally) is Chris Christie that he turns cowardly in an effort to throw a decision off to the "public".
    Ok, let the public vote on his salary...length of work day...where he can EAT and how much he spends on lunch. Oh yeah, does his wife use birth control or does he? Who pays for it? How much does he give at Mass every week? I think we, the public should decide.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Report abuse |
  17. rlowens1

    The civil rights of no individual or group should be subject to a public referendum. Civil rights are not a matter of popular opinion. Governor Christie will be made to understand that, sooner, or later. I hope only that he lives long enough to regret what a clown he made of himself over this issue. It's worse than dancing with a lampshade on your head.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Seaturtle123

      You are 100% correct!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Marge

    Don't say anything bad about a republican poster. You message will be stuck and not posted.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
  19. rlowens1

    My civil rights are mine, and not subject to Christian whims, or the whims of their imaginary friend, either.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • JT

      Right you are, rlowens. I find it odd that there are people who don't seem to understand that.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Ritchie

    The liberals are winning! The liberals are winning! Na-naaaaah-na-na-naaaah – the liberals are winning! (About as sensible as most of the arguments on this page, to be fair.)

    February 16, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Report abuse |
  21. DenverJ

    The Governor needs to remember and respect that a body of freely elected individuals debated this issue and then voted on it; these persons DO represent the entire state.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
  22. rlowens1

    How many times must these Christian clowns be embarrassed publicly by the United States Supreme Court? Such gluttons for punishment!

    February 16, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • thomas

      As much as I appreciate your comment, the truth is you can not embarrass them and you can not 'educate' them (if science stands in the way of their beliefs). The ego is way too strong for either. It really does not take much to figure it - people who elect to believe the 'wisdom' of a burning bush over human reality are not going to 'learn' much.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • rlowens1

      "As much as I appreciate your comment, the truth is you can not embarrass them and you can not 'educate' them (if science stands in the way of their beliefs)."

      So, I'll laugh at them and explain why I'm laughing. They will get the point, one way, or another. I don't care whether they "learn" anything, or not.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Is fascinating to see how in today's society, morality has become so relative. No one wants to affirm what's right and wrong until he or she feels that their rights have been violated.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Artur1965

    Chris Christie is a good governor and will veto this disgusting piece of legislation. It's good that there are decent people like Christie still left in NJ.

    All you degenerate Christophobic perverts get ready to cry your little eyes out because you won't get your way in NJ – not now, not ever!

    February 16, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • rlowens1

      I WILL have the right to marry the man I love in ALL 50 states, whether you like it, or not. You will lose. Get used to it.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • me

        I am very much in favor of having a law that would put an end to this abomination – stoning to death. Our society will not last much longer – we are dying from within.

        February 16, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • edwardo

        @me – I think you're already stoned to death! Do you even know the definition of abomination. I seriously doubt it!

        February 16, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • guy

        edwardo is da MAN!!! LMFAO at "youre already stoned to death"

        February 16, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • c-bag

      You'll be crying your little eyes out when I show up with my tire iron.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • edwardo

      Sorry bigot !! Even your backward state will have to concede that your hatred cannot override my civil rights. I think you're disgusting too... now we're even!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Winston5

      Keep on H8-ing!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      You lost. Wishful thinking won't change that.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jay

      Archie Bunker, is that you??? You need to go back to 1972 where you're wanted.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nick

      Let me guess, you call yourself a Christian. Have you read the Bible lately and what Jesus had to say about non-judgment?

      February 16, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • cb

      Good governor? Check your facts and look at all the abuses of power Christie has used over the years by not prosecuting companies for illegal activity by making them donate to his alma matter instead? Or about the whole fiasco about Christie brother being investigated and Christie paying of the investigator? As well as a number of other back door deals in which he made people give business to his friends allies and supporters in exchange for non prosecution? Christies one of those people that would do whatever it takes to protect his own and screw the state of NJ.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • SteveInLB

      Autur1969... You closeted Gay Man.. Years ago Gays in the Military was unthinkable becuase bigiot like you said our Military would fall apart. Gays now serve proudly and our military is just fine. 10 years ago, gay marriage was unthinkable. Today 7 states allow gay marriage. The Gay marriage ban in California was overturned by the 9th Circuit. Polls show that 53 percent of voter in New Jersey support gay marriage. Polls in most states show that most voters support gay marriage. One state at a time it's coming so it's you who will be crying.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Report abuse |
  24. NauticalMan

    So, Governor Christie, you are saying that we should let the people vote on gay marriage? Not in my opinion. So then you would agree that in the 1960s in say, Alabama, that we should have allowed the white folks there to vote on the Civil Rights law of 1964 for instance? If that is the case, what do we elect you for? Why not have direct democracy all around, so the predjudiced and ignorant can cast their vote against whatever it is they are against...

    February 16, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • cb

      Exactly – why not put all our civil rights to a vote? If we did that then we would loose all our rights or it would become rights for some and none for others depending on the state. For instance Southern Alabama could outlaw interacial marriage, or prevent black americans from voting. Or maybe Arizona and New Mexico can take away all the rights of the latino population. Whether you agree or disagree on gay marriage is inconsequential because when you started giving certain rights to one group and other rights to another you open the door for anyones civil rights to be taken away.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Greg

    Marriage is between a man and woman. Anything else is just 'people' making up stuff. If you want your 401K to go to some else, fine, but don't call it marriage. I hope the Mormons bring back the Poligamy issue, they could win now. Might as well union with a gerbal. Dorks!

    February 16, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • cb

      Just like different parts and passages of the bible were "made up" by people in power who falsely used Jesus' name to promote their own agenda and beliefs.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Greg

        Right religion should go away, like Obama, Hillary Clinton and gay people thinking they are anything close to normal.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • JBD

      I don't understand what your problem is with it? You don't expect everyone to believe as you do ... do you? This is a free country first! We have a clear separation of church and state for this very reason. I am a conservative, but I don't expect everyone in this free nation to live as I do regarding my personal choices ... nor do I expect everyone else in this nation to PAY for my choices ..LIBERALS that is directed to you who expect every christian to pay for abortions and birth control pills! But gay marriage ... that is a choice and accepting that this is a free nation first has its benefits to some and its prices to some. In the end the freedom to practice your religion as you see fit can only be protected if everyone else has the freedom to practice theirs as they see fit ... religion directs your lifestyle ... that choice shouldn't direct everyone else's lifestyle.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Greg

        I am completely non-religious. This about people wanting to be different plain and simple. Many people want to be different, but it shouldn't let them change everything real. Be gay, I don't care what you do to yourself. You want to be strange and different, fine, but get a grip. Don't change the world because you had bad parents or no friends. Sorry, the truth.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      Dude, you are so wrong. It's a turtle, not a gerbil

      February 16, 2012 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Going In Circles

        Sorry Greg........

        --You want to be strange and different, fine, but get a grip. Don't change the world because you had bad parents or no friends. Sorry, the truth.

        I am not strange.
        We are all different.
        The world is changing everyday.
        My parents are wonderful people.
        I have lots of friends, most of them straight.
        You are sad.

        February 16, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • edwardo

      Cheap shot !! Stay on the subject dimbulb. It's about 2 consenting adults. Not gerbils (which you spelled incorrectly because you're illiterate)... and not polygamy or anything else.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      Greg,

      You can campaign for bestiality later.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Greg

        I think that is their next step. lol. Under 18 marriages, marriage to animals and electing Obamacide. Oh they did that.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Observer

        Greg,

        Trying to change the subject and PRETEND it is something else fools no one but yourself.

        February 16, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • bill

      but you're "making it up" when you say that "marriage is between a man and a woman"

      February 16, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Max Powers

      Marriage is just people making stuff up, no matter who it's between. It's a contract. Any free adults can sign a contract.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
  26. blake

    Sick New Englanders!

    February 16, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • c-bag

      Ha! They wish. New England would never let Jersey in.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Britney

      Ha wow really .....?

      February 16, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Doobie Wah

      I remember very well, when Massachussets passed the gay marriage law,
      all of the right wing religious people, and the Republican party came out screaming
      that Massachussets was going to burn in hell, and fall into the ocean.

      We are still here.
      The state is doing fine, in fact the money coming into the state
      from people getting married, renting halls, photographers, bands, caterers, ....
      its been just great.
      You should try it.
      Great place to live.

      February 16, 2012 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Britney

    I believe that all gay marriage should be right and should be legal it shouldnt be their choice because its the person choice because not everyone has to like the opposite gender the world was meant for gay marriages and people in all states should protst to the gov. that gay marriage should be legal and allowed.

    February 16, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • JBD

      Please try english

      February 16, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Britney

        JBD shut up i didnt type it right geez

        February 16, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
  28. jukeboxheroes_frontman

    Doesn't suprise me that Christy would veto he is mentally retarded afterall

    February 16, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • c-bag

      Well yeah obviously. Look at the size of him!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
  29. WiseOwlOne

    The USA has truly become an ugly country of intolerant bigots and hatemongers who thrive on their own insecurities and ignorance! OH how this once great country has devolved over the last few decades, primarily due to the fringe overly religious right nutcases!

    February 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • JBD

      First, let's get something straight. I personally would vote for gay marriage. However, I completely disagree with your comment. This country has gone through growing pains just like every other nation on the planet, but if you think that agys once were "accepted" in this country you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
  30. GR

    Had Jesus lived in our times, I think even he would go for a little buttsecks.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • WiseOwlOne

      If Jesus lived in our times, he would be SHOCKED at all the hypocrites and hatemongers who use his name and image to spread anger and bigotry!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • cb

      Funny you say that because there is that passage in the Secret Gospel of Mark in which Jesus laid down naked with another naked youth to teach him "the secrets of the Kingdown of God" Then we have the relationship between Jesus and John which indicated they were lovers.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Ivan

    If you are going to comment on this story then please know how to spell correctly or else someone may think you are an ignorant fool.

    Thank you.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  32. WiseOwlOne

    STUPID STUPID Americans! Still stuck on the gay marriage, abortion, and contraception issues when there are SO MANY MORE IMPORTANT PROBLEMS AND CHALLENGES! It boggles the mind how this country is not outraged, for example, at the rapacious cost of health insurance and healthcare, when millions cannot afford it!

    February 16, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norman

      there is nothign more importnat than equality for all, you ignorant, lack of empathy fool! now shut up and let the adults talk

      February 16, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse |
  33. DK

    This is tough. I understand their desire to marry and I almost support it. But it won't end there. Wait for the lawsuits when they think they were looked over for adoptions and the straight couple got the kid and when all the text books will need to be re-written in our schools to represent their lifestyle. This is where I really have a problem and it will happen.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norman

      too bad-we dont stop the fulfillment of the promise of this country's laws by "what ifs"-idiot

      February 16, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Winston5

      I'm completely ok with you having a "problem" with that, DK. 🙂

      February 16, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Max Powers

      Gay and even single people can adopt, and there hasn't been such an overflow of related lawsuits that anyone would notice. Red Herring.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Mother

    New Jersey is very religious state and mostly Christian with minority of Jews. They even have blue laws in some counties. Good Luck winning this if the resident decided LOL

    February 16, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • WiseOwlOne

      Jersey is NOT a 'very religious state' as you say. It is probably one of the more secular states, where millions of agnostics and atheists reside. Don't make false blanket statements in order to push your hatemongering agenda.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • tokencode

      "mother" you're obviously not from Jersey

      February 16, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
  35. LI

    Poor children..... just wait until they start school. BTW there should be gay private schools LOL

    February 16, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • c-bag

      "The Harvey Milk School for children whose parents couldn't break the schoolyard bullies in half for making fun of them." Has a nice ring to it.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • edwardo

      Oh I know... you str8 people do such a gr8 job of raising your kids in a single parent home. Gee, hope they can survive 2 loving adults! Glad I'm not your kid!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Max Powers

      It's less embarrassing for children of gay parents than it is for children of trail park parents.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Report abuse |
  36. asm_ith

    Why is this an issue that "should not be decided by 121 people in the statehouse" vs. any other issue that those same 121 people are deciding when they pass any law? Seems as if Christie wants to move to a direct participatory democracy rather than a representative democracy.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • DK

      Probably because he is against it. This is the best chance of getting it passed.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Report abuse |
  37. VETO1456

    Don't worry, Christie will do the decent thing and VETO this crap swiftly.

    Furthermore, the wheels are in motion to overturn this immoral attack on decency in Washington state and in New Hampshire. Gay marriage will be decisively defeated by the people...it's inevitable.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tex Gritter

      I surely hope so. It is totally unfair that a relative handful of people should call the shots for the vast majority of us. I hope that some day soon "We the People" will be given back our right to vote on these issues that, in truth, should be non-issues. God, please bless America again. There is no place like Home.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • edwardo

      YOU DON'T HOLD A VOTE ON SOMEONE'S CIVIL RIGHTS !! What part of them do you not get??? Are you thick??

      February 16, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • VETO1456

        Ah, so sad. You're obviously a very sick and demented person. I strongly recommend that you seek professional help for your mental condition before it deteriorates beyond repair. Narth.com would be an excellent place for you to start.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
  38. wow

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQensCD7xcE

    February 16, 2012 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • SherryF

      ......so?

      February 16, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Sakura-chan

    This is not right and natural, I know that most of you disagree and I am not starting any trouble,but marriage is between men and women. God made marriage so we can multiply and grow,and gay marriage does not do that.Marriage is a religous ceremony between and man and a woman and thats how is should and forever be.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patriarchae

      There is no god. God made nothing. Bigoted humans "made" marriage. And marriage is no longer strictly a religious ceremony. Get your head out of the 18th century, as well as your a$$.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      Always with this same argument. I'm gay. It's not a choice...just reality. There's no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to get married and have a family just like you can. If a church doesn't want to perform marriage ceremonies for gay people, then that is their right, but marriage is a CIVIL contract with the government, and it should be accessible to everyone.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve Houston

      First off, you don't have to be married to pro-create. If you're going to apply that standard, then post-menapausal and infertile couples shouldn't be allowed to marry either(under your standard). Married couples have legal rights not available to other commited couples who don't have a marriage license. You can't deny these gay couples their legal rights because of your religious beliefs.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • J

      First of all, you're assuming a LOT with that statement (god's existence, his motives, etc..) Never mind all that though. Let's just look at the gaping hole in your logic. If we shouldn't allow gay marriage because they can't produce children (even though they can adopt foster children), should we then also prohibit infertile women, sterile men, the elderly, or people who choose not to have children from getting married as well?

      February 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Max Powers

        And fat people.

        February 16, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tina

      Then why did Jesus teach that men should stop divorcing their wives if they were barren? He actually taught that marriage was not about the ability to sire children, but about love. Maybe you should read up a bit on the teachings of Jesus.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Max Powers

      God made people, if you insist on believing that. People made marriage.

      February 16, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Jan

    I don't understand how men could love other men's hairy azz ?!

    February 16, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • lagunalad

      That's not what your father said.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • WiseOwl

      OK now Dice Clay!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • glennrobert

      You don't have to understand. If you don't want to marry a man, don't do it!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tex Gritter

      Neither do I. Of course, ancient cultures like the Greeks and "great" men like Alexander the Great did it. However, the archeologists are still digging through their ruined cities......

      February 16, 2012 at 7:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norman

      Jan-so ignorant-gay men dont understand how a man woudl lick a meaty curtain with hair all over it that spits out blood once a month-thats pretty sick!!

      February 16, 2012 at 8:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • gg

      well not hairy in all cases, the more experienced know to shave and wax and thats why gay men are vital to women...they can equal if not surpass them in beauty knowledge...okay i'm being sarcastic...

      February 16, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • edwardo

      I don't understand why a man would want a smelly taco either...but apparently, some do. I mean, if you want to get offensive, I can do that sweetie.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Max Powers

        Don't ruin the smelly taco for those of us that aren't bigots. *L*

        February 16, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
  41. NJ

    The majority of NJ residents are Catholics/Christians so they will veto the bill if the 8.8 million voted....

    February 16, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      Voters don't veto. Governors and presidents veto.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • JT

      Which is why matters of civil rights can't be left up to a majority vote: the minority will always be screwed over.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • edwardo

      Gov Christie is a coward..afraid of doing the right thing. ON the wrong side of history...AGAIN !

      February 16, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Imam

    I feel bad for those children... I would never want to be raised by two men

    February 16, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      yeah how dare they be brought up in a loving household. They would be sooo better off in foster care or some horrible home for children. Wow you sure are ignorant.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Imam

        or with a loving mother and father....

        February 16, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Norman

        imam-if straighst stop abandoing tehir kids, gays wouldnt ahve to take over-show some respect-gays are raising thousands of kids given up by straight idiots

        February 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • manhandler

      Sure....right....Don't those two kids look unhappy and badly cared for. Open your eyes....you can see, but you are blind. My gay daughter and her partner raised two boys who are well adjusted, caring, responsible, sucessful people...one married (to a woman) and the other with a long time girlfriend. If you told them you felt sorry for them, they'd turn around and tell you they felt sorry for you......as I indeed do.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • c-bag

      ...Which is to say nothing of the straight girl that spread her legs without any thought about what it might mean to bring a child into this world. The only saving grace is that the mother had the good sense to give the child up, but that still isn't good enough. It's better off to queef out a baby and raise it in abject poverty than allow either of these guys to take care of it.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Z

    We have a right to believe whatever we want, but not everything we believe is right.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Worries

    OMG OMG are you joking?! How could those h0m0s have adopted children? I feel bad for the two kids they will be misrable and harassed in school with no mother :/

    February 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • lagunalad

      I'm sure the gay community will be releived to hear that.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • nessus68

      OMG! OMG! I feel sorry for anyone that has to know a bigoted, hate filled loser like you.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      I feel worse for you than I do for them. You're ignorant and hateful.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • manhandler

      Look up the word "Ignoramus" in the dictionary....for you ARE one.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • J

      They will be harassed by people just like you...

      February 16, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Pan3

    Equality for all!

    February 16, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Larch Boggett

    The moderator of this board allows few anti gay marriage comments to get through. He's probably one of the guys in the picture.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • michael

      Ohhhhh, listen to the oppressed bully sob. How cute 🙂

      February 16, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larch Boggett

        I am cute. Bully? Think not. The bully is the guy in the picture holding a child who had no chance to choose a family with a mother.

        February 16, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Patriarchae

        Somehow I doubt the child cares that he has 2 fathers because he is not being brought up to become an ignorant bigot as you are.

        February 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • nessus68

      Sometimes I wonder what it's like to have that much hate.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ryan

        I try not to think about hateful people. It depresses me...

        February 16, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Steverino

    It's what goes on in the bedroom, thats shames me.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • SherryF

      Why? What are you doing that's so bad?

      February 16, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • TeaClown

      Why are you thinking about what gay guys do in the bedroom? Closets are for clothes buddy.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • edwardo

      I"m not thinking about what goes on in your bedroom (probably nothing, if your outside is as ugly as your inside).

      February 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Report abuse |
  48. francis

    I am so sick and tired of the gay and Lesbian crap ...This Is only one reason why this countries falling apart ,,,Are President is the other reason...

    February 16, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mortalc01l

      Ummmmm... I think you should learn to spell and invest in a book in grammar; (hint; grammar is not your father's Mom)..

      "Are President" ?? REALLY? I think you mean OUR President.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jake

      Yes, it's the gays, and the president, not uneducated dolts like you, it's our president, not are president, idiot.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • me

        It is not what people want, their needs, their feeling, their desires that are important. You can call evil good and good evil – you will one day soon know that judgment of a holy God. Not just for you, though, for all those who defy His command to repent.

        February 16, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cynicalandy

      Time to go back to Trailer Trash High and learn how to write proper English.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • lagunalad

      "are' or "our"

      February 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • peter

      Next thing you know the state legislature will out law MORBID Obesity! Then what Governor where will you be? Still fat I bet

      February 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • c-bag

      The failure of the educational system to teach you how to read and write your own native language is probably another key source of the problem.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter

      And also because we let people vote who don't know the difference between are and our. But you're probably right. It's probably because of the gays and lesbians that corporations have control of the government, our lives, and our economy and make record profits while everything else tanks. Yeah, it's probably the gays.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ivan

      I think you mean our not are but then again, your choice of words speaks volumes.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hydrogen

      "Are" President? Clearly stupidity is what's causing the country to fall apart, and you're a prime example.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Name*EDSON MARTINEZ

    I'm totally stunned!! The Bible suggest exactly and profetically that this would ocurr in this final days, months or years before JESUS comes back...not to mention what's going on in the middle east, earthquakes, wars and rummors of wars.....just like th son of God prophetically wrote 2000 years ago on Mathew 24! "Not a coincidence that last summer 3 things ocurred in a month span right after New york APPROVED GAY M law..." Economic meltdown, AA+, IRENE, Earthquake along the East coast! We are about to see worse things in the very few months is not days! "God have mercy on us"

    February 16, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • SherryF

      .......ummm.....you do realize that the bible is a *book*, right? Written by some guys 200 years following the supposed events?

      February 16, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nick

      Are you really taking "yourself" seriously? That is the weirdest argument I have ever seen.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patriarchae

      You know, I hate the slow construction of a Big Brother state that is happening now as much as anyone else... But people like you make me want the government to be able to screen comments, get your location, and lock you up where you can do no harm to anyone else. You are either incredibly stupid or incredibly mentally unstable and should not be functioning or even existing in and with the rest of society.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • TeaClown

      Tornadoes kill people in the bible belt for a reason. God hates you.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:15 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Bench

    Yeah, one day bestiality will be legalized too...

    February 16, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • JT

      Are animals sentient beings with legal standing who can consent to marriage? If you say yes, you're a loony. If you say no, you invalidate your own argument on the grounds that it is completely illogical.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Isaiah Jackson

        Find me a dog that can sign it's own name on a marriage contract, and I'll agree with you!

        February 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      Yeah, because there are so many cases of 'I love my kitchen table and want to marry it' cases in Massachusetts courts... oh wait, no there isn't. Well Canada, right? Wait, there aren't?

      Why do you think there are so many Americans who want to marry their kitchen table? You really have a poor opinion of Americans, don't you?

      February 17, 2012 at 2:39 am | Report abuse |
  51. DK

    I want to know why there can't be plural marriages? Why does it have to be between one man and one women? Why not one man and five women? This almost seems more normal than two guys together. They should just say any consenting adults can do whatever they want then.

    February 16, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Or, one woman and five men? If polygamy is legal, polyandry ought to be as well.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • bah

      The supreme court has visited polygamy and stated in Reynolds v. U.S. that polygamy was “an offence against society.” That said there are still polygamist couples in the US. The Mormon church broke away from the teachings of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young (D&C 132).

      Perhaps if this were to be revisited the Mormons would be encouraged to practice polygamy. This would keep them in line with the early Prophets (“The ONLY MEN WHO BECOME GODS, even the Sons of God, are those WHO ENTER INTO POLYGAMY.”(Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, page 269)). By denying Mormons the right to polygamy we are denying (according to their doctrines) the rights to become Gods in the hereafter.

      For the eternal souls of the Mormon brethren there must be hope that Mitt Romney will be elected!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
  52. MrCurve

    Another state bends over for votes...

    February 16, 2012 at 7:11 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Matt

    Please veto this! We did not get to where we are today by a man marrying a man or woman marrying a woman!

    February 16, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bruce

      And we are in such a good place.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • urouttolunch

        love it!

        February 16, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Rights and liberties should not be subject to a popular vote! The tyranny of the majority is something our Founders warned us about.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Z

        plz show evidence b4 making this statement, thank you

        February 16, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • JT

        Z, are you joking or just woefully uneducated? The concept dates back at least as far as the ancient Greeks. And Madison wrote specifically of this. Please get a clue before making silly requests of others.

        February 16, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • David B

      This is legal in several countries. Time to move onward. Two straight people can screw forever and not get pregnant. LIve and let live!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
  54. jlwu

    The thought of two men making out just grosses me out. One is f~dge p@cking the other while their nuts@cks slam against each other. Is this the type of relationship you want the government to recognize?

    February 16, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rohan2727

      Believe me, the thought of you doing the deed brings a bout of nausea to anyone who has seen you (or smelled you)

      February 16, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • jack johnson

      Sounds like you have had pratice!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Adam

      But it would be perfectly okay in your eyes if two woman made out and used toys in order to satisfy each other? Gay marriage has no effect on you and never will so why deny someone else the ability to get married because you don't agree with their life style...

      February 16, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rich in NJ

      jlwu: The intensity with which you say it grosses you out, and the detailed description which you have obviously give a LOT of thought to, suggests to me that you think about it a lot – probably all the time – every time you're in the locker room at the gym, you see another guy and you think about how disgusting it would be for him to be f****packing you while his nuts@ck slams against you ... and you start to break out in a sweat at the thought... Yep, nobody can object as vehemently as you unless he is actually just a closeted gay man. Come on out dude. You'll be welcomed by us liberals.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      Obsess over man-on-man action, don't you? Hmmm... I smell mothballs, boxes and old shoes... all found in a Closet.

      February 17, 2012 at 2:41 am | Report abuse |
  55. Angela Kim

    It looks like the four same queens and dy kes are on board LOL Time for dinner. I don't have time to be on here for hours and hours like some of you losers. Ciao xo

    February 16, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      It will be nice when people like you die off.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Dave

    This is great! So now gay married couples can get the same benefits as all regular married couples and drain the system for more money requiring NJ to raise the taxes even more than the rediculous levels they are at now. More wasted money spend by liberals at the expense of tax payers. They just raised the tolls there 50% and now this, better raise it again 150% to pay for all these new benefits they will have to give. Great job NJ!!

    February 16, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      Yeah equal rights is such an evil thing.....

      February 16, 2012 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rich in NJ

      I shouldn't really dignify your rant, but in now way does marriage confer economic advantages. In fact, many elderly couples choose to live together without getting married because of the negative impact marriage would have on their taxes and benefits.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daniel

      Gays pay taxes, right? Shouldn't they have the same rights to any government program that others who pay taxes have?

      February 16, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Isaiah Jackson

      Maybe we shouldn't let black people get married either...or Jews....or really anyone else. Hell, unless you're a straight white male, you shouldn't have rights! As long as my taxes stay down, other people can suffer!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeff of Peoria

      2 things – Yes it should be decided by THE PEOPLE if there isn't sufficient votes to override his veto. Plenty of MEN and WOMEN get married or Don't get married to sham the system so that is not a valid argument. They get married to get on the others health insurance or DON'T get married so they can stay on MEDICAID.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      So in the world of some people, getting married equates to wanting more government benefits. Well let's hope some of those benefits include getting an education, because words like "rediculous" seem to keep popping up from those opposed to someone else getting married. How can anyone think that someone getting married will cause the "system to be drained", costing taxpayers more?

      February 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Angela Kim

    Do you know how much your kids are going to be taunted at school? They're going to hate you for making them the laughing stock of the school. Tsk Tsk

    February 16, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Phil McKrackin

      Then maybe you should TEACH your children to respect those that are different. It starts with YOU, not the children.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
  58. jlwu

    Imagine two guys touching each other, one ramming his tool into the other's hole. He reaches around to jerk him off. Is this the type of relationship you want the government to recognize?

    February 16, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Angela Kim

      It's gross huh? I couldn't finish reading what you wrote...just disgusting.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • SherryF

      Yep........it's hawt!

      February 16, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      The fact that you seem to know so much about it makes me wonder about you.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rohan2727

      You keep posting things like that. One wonders if you are typing one-handed...

      February 16, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      and this is any of your business, why??

      February 16, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Norman

      wow-pretty hot

      February 16, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Just got a reach around last night, it was hot!!

      February 17, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Angela Kim

    I don't like the gay lifestyle mainly because of the way they prance around and flaunt that they are different. Keep your promiscuity to yourselves.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Gee Angela... maybe the don't like your conventional lifestyle and the way you flaunt your disgust at how they live their lives... which really none of your business.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Isaiah Jackson

      That's a rude generalization. But, yeah, I agree. We should take their rights away from them for acting differently. It's not like we have a First Amendment that gives people the right to free speech...

      February 16, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Angela Kim

    Don't feed the trolls he says...yet he does it LOL

    February 16, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Phearis

    I propose a law that says "Only Christians are NOT aloud to get married". Lets force our Gay Beliefs down your throats for a change. Seems only fair.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • roflcopters

      If your going to require something..at least learn to spell "allowed"...typical un-educated dumba**....

      February 16, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Guest

        *you're

        February 16, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        hmm – I think your educated self means YOU'RE as a contraction of YOU ARE, where YOUR means possession ...... so much for the education that you obviously didn't get ;-> never throw stones when you live in a glass house – remember that one?

        February 16, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tony

        when did posting become a spelling bee/grammer contest? In the heat of the moment we all make mistakes. Let's not go off message because someone types faster then they think and then don't edit. It's just so childish.

        February 16, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jan

        Tony: type faster THAN!! not then! Poor grammar and bad spelling make people look stupid and their arguments are greatly reduced because of that ... not that this clown had an argument to start with....

        February 16, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Angela Kim

    That picture is just so wrong at so many levels. Poor kids are going to be so messed up in the head.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Phearis

      HAHA Not as messed up and backwards thinking as you apparently are.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • SherryF

      ......only if they are exposed to intolerant folks such as yourself. The kids look healthy and happy, which should be good enough for anyone rather than seeing them put into a foster care system.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • The problem is you...

      That infant and toddler are apparently smarter than you...

      February 16, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Isaiah Jackson

      Yeah! Kids should have TWO STRAIGHT PARENTS!!! That's why it's illegal to be a single parent.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rohan2727

        Uh, it's not illegal to be a single parent...

        February 16, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      Probably less messed up then a man and a woman getting a divorce and then competeing to be the better parent. You want to talk about screwing with a child's head? Take the blinders off Angela... all children are at the mercy of the outcome of adult relationships.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Just Another Guy

    Come on, people. Don't feed the trolls.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Tom

    Sadly (for him at least), Governor Christ Christie will be eternally viewed as being on the wrong side of history. The time is coming when LGBT rights will be recognized around the USA. I hope and pray that discrimination will end and that marriage based on LOVE will be recognized for all. I'm a gay Christian in favor of marriage equality.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • jack johnson

      And how much is Cristie going to cost the tax payers by doing this? He is show boating so he could be the V.P..

      February 16, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      From one straight man to one gay man... I wish you well Tom. I support freedom for everyone. When you put the freedom of one group of people on the chopping block, then everyone's freedom is up for grabs. I, as well as a large number of Americans support your cause and we will be there for you at every turn. Take that, you lemon sucking extreme right wing conservatives.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nick

        Rock on Tony! Just keep in mind that with friends and family involved it's your cause as well.

        February 16, 2012 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
  65. SherryF

    Congratulations to New Jersey! We in Iowa welcome you to the 21st Century!!

    February 16, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Phillyboi

      If only Iowa WAS in the 21st century

      February 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Angela Kim

    Marriage is between a man and a woman. Period.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      in your narrow-minded religious point of view. Why should your beliefs be followed by those who don't believe in them? Hey can we have a vote on wether you can get married and have the benefits of marriage too?

      February 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • SherryF

      No, just women have periods.

      Oh wait, that's not what you meant, huh. Clearly marriage can and *is* between more than a man and a woman. It's between two loving people regardless of race, gender, religion, etc etc.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jerry

        Let's just let anyone marry whatever they want. Up next, man marries the love of his life – his horse. Welcome to Jerry Springer's World!

        February 17, 2012 at 9:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Just Another Guy

      lol idiot. the word "marriage" has evolved just as the word "gay" has.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      If you want your marriage to be based simply on physical body parts go ahead. But true marriage is about love and luckily the pro-gay rights movement is helping to restore it. Pro-gay rights= Pro-family rights.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tony

      And with the divorce rate at it's highest level in years, we all know how that works out. Marriage is between two people who love each other... who are willing take take a bullet for the other... whose love is unconditional. Find that in most 'normal' man and woman relationships.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Julnor

    I think a referendum is the way to go on this. If it get shot down in the referendum (as it has everywhere else when put to a public vote) or rejected by the governor, it will end up in the NJ supreme court. I think it would be better for the court to have to decide against the true will of the people rather than the will of the state congress.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      Rights for people should not be voted on. That is how a majority oppresses a minority. If that were to happen and the court overturns something like that then the Repubtards will start with there courts legislating from the bench bs.....

      February 16, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larch Boggett

        I agree. Those kids in the picture should have the right to choose a family with a mother AND a father, not two fathers. They are taking away the rights of those kids to validate their choice of an aberrant lifestyle.

        February 16, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Norman

        lARCH-YOURE AN IDIOT-milliosn of kids are raised by singel parents and all studies prove taht kids of gays are actually betetr adjusted than kids raised by straighst-turns out kids just need love

        February 16, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Roklobstah

    How the hell did he get elected to governor opposing the majority of his state?

    February 16, 2012 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Julnor

      He wants a referendum to determine the majority of the state, not just the majority of elected officials.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      Maybe he ate most of the liberals last election....sure looks like it.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eyes-n-snore

      How the hell does any politician get elected and go against the will of the people? It's called LYING brotha lmao

      February 16, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
  69. lance corporal

    it shouldn't be decided by 151 elected representatives
    no just 1 republican.............

    oh and "the gays" aren't afraid of referendum, if you read the article you would have learned that in NJ it WILL pass by referendum and the point of doing that is to maintain christie's "conservative cred"
    the bigger question is really what do you.....not sure what the corollary of "the gays" is..... have against civil rights????

    February 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
  70. b

    This snowball cannot be stopped. Gays will have the right to marry throughout the USA within 5 years.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      From your lips to God's ears. The fact that we're still letting the popular majority vote away the rights of the minority in this country makes me ashamed of America. Seems to me that 150 years ago, putting slavery up to a popular vote means it would have lasted a lot longer than it did, if it ever ended.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • bryan

      Christie will veto this to enable himself to be in line for a VP nomination or consideration . SO now who is sleeping with who!

      February 16, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • jarhead5546

      Dream on. Within five years we will have all of New England, all of the Pacific coast, Illinois, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico and perhaps Florida. The rest of the country? HELL NO. You underestimate the hatred out here in flyover land. 25 years from now, most of the Mountain West, Missippi, Alabama and South Carolina will vote to secede rather than allow this to happen...

      February 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Norman

        jarhead-no, dummy-the SC will make it the law of the land-nothign can stop it-secede? imbecile that cant legally happen

        February 16, 2012 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Artur65

    I repeat that marriage is solely for men and women. Not for "gays". Let the degenerates do what they want in the privacy of their bedrooms but never, ever let them think they have a right to marry like normal people. They are filth-ridden and sick and not deserving of the God-given relationship that is marriage.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      You are the reaon I hate most people.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • jarhead5546

        Well said

        February 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      Your ignorance disgusts me more than my "lifestyle" could ever disgust you.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Casey

      H o m o s e x u a l i t y is considered a normal part of human s e x u a l i t y by the following medical and mental health associations: The American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, the American Counseling Association, the Canadian Psychological Association, and the National Association of Social Workers.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • lance corporal

      I repeat your wrong and I don't care what you think

      and since I said I repeat then it is fact................

      February 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • SherryF

      Here's hoping you haven't procreated.....would hate to think *your* deviant actions have been propagated.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ferathka

        He probably has no idea what you said...words are too big for him.

        February 16, 2012 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      I am sorry to read, Artur, that you hate America and democracies in general.

      Here in America, we grant minorities the same rights as the majority enjoys. In this case, the minority are those who are gay, and the right in question is the right to have a legally recognized marriage. If you want to withhold the right to get married, then you really need to withhold such from the majority too.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Billo

      Oh, you "repeat" do you? So what if you think marriage is for one man and one woman only, your opinion and the concept of equality are two different things. It's not the government's place to decide that. The concept of marriage does not belong in goverment at all. But since it is, the government cannot discriminate. You're fighting a losing battle my friend. No one cares anymore whether gays get married. They don't hurt anyone. And I know tons of married people who are not "normal" BTW.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Phearis

      Isn't it funny how Christians have no problem forcing their beliefs and actions down the throats of people and then scream "War On Religion" if you don't cave in and believe what they do. It's kinda childish, backwards and sad if you really think about it. It's like Christians are just stuck in the Dark Ages.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • bryan

      Arthur65 tell me something can you stand there and tell me bold face you have never ever done anything in your bedroom that would be considered degenerate, if you answer NO I call you a bold face lire , Stay out of my bedroom and I want the same rights as you do to marry and reproduce.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • want2believe

      It's too bad marriage is not a God-given relationship and is sanctioned by the government.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • ElGiblet

      Sorry, Artur. You posted your opinion about gays on CNN. You will get nothing but backlash. It's just like going to the NAACP website and saying you hate blacks.

      Just a note from the outside : The real world supports your stance.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • jparker77

      I think your secretly gay & your disgusted with yourself & thats why you attack other people.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Guest

      I would like to vote on your right to marry and procreate. I vote no.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
  72. inequality after all this time

    Governor. Christy, lets all take a vote on whether or not you're guilty of gluttony! Then allow your fellow church comrades stone you to death, for not being loyal to god. Everytime you eat a biscuit, or cookie or anything that you dont have to have you are sinning. So stop expecting loving people to live by religious laws that you yourself can't adhere to!

    February 16, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • LM

      Amen to that

      February 16, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Jim37

    Why are the gays so scared of referendums? they keep saying that the majority of people support gay marriage but yet they use court system as a backdoor to get their way. I support a national referendum for an important issue like this.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Todd in DC

      *sigh* Because civil rights aren't supposed to be granted by the tyranny of the majority. If you think that is incorrect, you may want to look at that whole Civil War thingy the country did 150 year or so ago.

      Or look at segregation, or interracial marriage. Seriously, where DO you learn your history, anyway?

      February 16, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      Yeah and back in 1860 a national referendum on slavery would have been a good idea too right? Equal rights is not an issue to be voted on. Equal rights are supposed to be protected by the government from infringement by a majority over a minority....read some history please.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      Sure Jim, sounds great. How about after that, we put your right to marry the person you live, your right to property inheritance if your partner dies, and your right to make medical decisions on the behalf of your incapacitated partner up for a vote? Quid pro quo, you vote away my rights, why don't I get a chance to vote away yours?

      February 16, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Casey

      Civil rights should not be put to a popular vote. If they were, much of the south would likely still be segregated. The rights of the minority must be protected from the tyranny of the majority.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Julnor

      A referendum would at least force the state supreme court to rule for or against the will of the people. Whether you like it or not, the voice of the people is important. Personally I have no problem with gay marriage, but let the people speak first.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      The court system? This was the NJ state legislature, you know, the pillar of a representative democracy. Christie's veto is nothing but political grandstanding for his own presidential aspirations. What a hack.

      February 16, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Hank

    for crying out loud, will you give these people equal rights allready

    February 16, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • ThatMan

      WHo cares? Just get these clowns off the front page – permanently.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Casey

        Give gays legal equality, and then you can take us off of the front page.

        February 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Artur65

    I hope Christie does veto this. It's quite sickening and a sign of how degenerate society has become that anyone could even consider two "gays" getting married. Next thing "gays" will want is to marry their dogs.

    Keep marriage special and for what it was intended – the union of a man and women for procreation and raising children!

    February 16, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jerry

      The arguemnt that people will next will want to marry their pets is absurd and really getting tired. You and I know you are just reaching for a reason to keep two people from being happy together

      February 16, 2012 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jerry

        arguement*

        February 16, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Todd in DC

        *argument

        February 16, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      First off you comment on the dog is just sick and shows how feeble minded you really are. If you are so much for the special treatment of marriage start telling your politicians and local idiots to stop divorcing. I have been in a commited relationship with my partner longer then most straight people honor your so-called special thing called marriage. It is not the right of the state to deny equal rights to citizens just because small minded people like yourself think it is wrong. My life is my life...not yours.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • urouttolunch

        good post

        February 16, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      Your ignorance disgusts me more than my "lifestyle" could ever possibly disgust you.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • what1ever

      Why are conservatives convinced that everyone wants to marry their pets? Who are you guys hanging out with? Gays just want the chance to spend their lives with someone, like everyone gets.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      You're really naive and have no clue what marriage, or love, is.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Terry

      Procreation and raising children, you say? So, older people should not be allowed to marry? Come into the 21th century, will you please !!

      February 16, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Guest

      Damn straight! Marriage is special and for procreation. For example: Newt "family values" Gingrich, Katy "Christian" Perry, Kim "Bible study" Kardashian...

      February 16, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Isaiah Jackson

      Wow, what an intelligent observation, Artur65! Because a dog has a legal standing and can sign a marriage contract! How logical!
      (You seem to be rather unintelligent, so I'm just going to help you realize that the above words are sarcastic. I can rewrite them as one-syllable words if they're too big for you to read...)

      February 16, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
  76. joetalks

    ROMANS 1: 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
    GOD GAVE THEM A DEBASED MIND,, NO NEED TO VETO THIS...

    February 16, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • b

      The Bible and the Law. They have nothing to do with each other. The law should not ban two adults from marrying each other. Your church, on the other hand, can do whatever it wants. Your church can refuse to marry gays, interracial couples, whatever. Religion and Government must remain separate.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charlie

      It's sad that you let a 2,000-year old book do your thinking for you. If I wasn't enlightened and above such foolishness, I'd pray for you.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • urouttolunch

      this quote only matters to people who believe unconditionally in the Christian Bible. Guess what? Not everybody falls in that group. And – a lot of people think Paul may have been a closet case.

      February 16, 2012 at 8:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      As I said before, Harry Potter, page 24, just as relevant.

      February 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  77. gary

    Christie = Taliban. What's the dif? Both seem to hate the idea of equality and freedom from religious torment.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Todd in DC

      Most of the taliban aren't so well fed.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
  78. jim

    "LET IT BE" " LET IT BE" IF THEY LOVE EACH OTHER LET IT BE.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Jerry

    Oh Governor Christie stand for all citizens of New Jersey and sign the bill.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
  80. bob

    @Bill, Bloomington Il

    "Civil Rights? Sorry dems. Dont ever compare this to civil rights. When GBLT's can prove they were brought over here as slaves and couldnt vote among other things, they we will talk."

    So only a group of people whose ancestors were once enslaved should get civil rights? You are a racist of the highest degree.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Todd in DC

      Bob, gay people were killed by Hitler, there are "Kill the Gay" bills being debated in Liberia and Uganda. Is that repressive enough for you?

      Idiot.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
  81. cragar92

    sick

    February 16, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Casey

      Yes, bigotry is sick.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Alex A.

    "Wait, this isn't a Republican measure? I don't care what it does! Think about how this bill would make ME, the governor, look! I can't vote on something that makes me look bad! How could you even ask me to do that?"

    February 16, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Ferathka

    We can only hope that both houses in New Jersey override the veto that is coming. Christie is a fat slob who caters to the right wing extremists of his party. THe bible beaters can do whatever they want to stop the progress of civil rights....but the day of true victory is not many years off.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
  84. lldc

    exactly, you can't rely on a referendum for civil rights, if we did we'd still have slavery in the south. if christie truly believes in small government/reducing regulations and reducing government intrusion in our private family decisions, he needs to get out of the way and sign the bill.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • LM

      It is impossible for the Governor to get out of the way of anything, He needs back up lights!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Bill, Bloomington Il

    Civil Rights? Sorry dems. Dont ever compare this to civil rights. When GBLT's can prove they were brought over here as slaves and couldnt vote among other things, they we will talk.

    February 16, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      You make no sense. Having equal rights denied to you because of who you are is a civil rights issue. Please let some air into that bubble you reside in.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • gary

      Bill, don't start rewriting the promises of 'liberty and justice for all' and 'all men created equal' to put limits on these. Don't destroy the promise of America to make a few religions happy. Many religions support encouraging stable gay unions, but America's promises should be free from religious intervention.

      Civil rights apply to women. To equality for all races. To equality no matter what your religious beliefs.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Nothing new here

    Just let the gays get married!
    Enough already.
    And what are these legislators doing about the economy and creating jobs?
    Stop worrying about what 2 consenting adults do in their bedrooms – it's the economy, STUPIDS :/

    February 16, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ferathka

      The republicans are trying to bring "social" issues to the forefront because there presidential candidates blow when it comes to a recovering economy. They are trying to get the religious wackos out there that helped Bushy win his second term.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
  87. us1776

    Excellent.

    Force Kris Krispy to be on the wrong side of history.

    .

    February 16, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
  88. jimmy carducci

    I wonder what Snooki thinks about all this. You out there Snooki?

    February 16, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Snooki

      Since gays can pull of a permanently bronzed tan better than I can, they have earned the right to marry!

      February 16, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  89. es

    Well done Governor Christie!

    February 16, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • gary

      Yes, great job to start destroying the promises of 'all men being created equally' and 'liberty and justice for all' and 'freedom of religion and freedom from religion.' Let's throw out the freedom and equality that make America great and replace them with police going home to home to enforce the views of a small group of religious nuts.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ferathka

        Wait you know Rick Santorum?

        February 16, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Craig

    If Christie doesn't want to act...because he doesn't thing the elected leaders should make decisions, he should resign. LEADERS were elected to ACT, and if he didn't want that responsibility, he shouldn't have run for the office. Either step up and do your job, or quit. Apparently, given the poll data, the citizens who elected him think it's okay...and if their opinions are equally divided, that's all the more reason for him to BE A LEADER!

    February 16, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Report abuse |
  91. The Pope

    Well, we know how "Two Ton Christie" is going to weigh in on this. He's going to be very heavy handed

    February 16, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
  92. Shame

    Shame on you Chris Christie.

    February 16, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Animenut

    I don't know Christie's real thoughts on the matter, but there is no way he would sign unless he is thinking about running for Prez in the future. Within the next 8 years, it will be the law nationally.

    February 16, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
  94. gary

    If Christy were in power in prior times, would he have punted the end of slavery to a state by state vote? And women's rights? And the right to marry out of one's race? Screw the promise of liberty and justice and for all and all men being created equal. Let voters interpret who to exclude from the promise.

    February 16, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
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    February 16, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
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      February 16, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
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        February 16, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
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        February 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
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      February 16, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Pope

      She's making $69/hr on her back, maybe.

      February 16, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Aimee

        I will tell her to meet your mom . who is making more than $1000 per hour from her back and front .

        February 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • what1ever

      If you're doing so well, why are you telling us about it?

      February 16, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
  96. larry5

    Why waste time on a vote if the court is going to decide the issue?

    February 16, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jersey Boy

      Hello , Gov. Christie , being gay is not a choice but Being Over-Weight , is so ignorantly selfish , How come you don't Veto that 2-Layered Cake and Put your FORK down and Let people be Happy and MARRY...

      February 16, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Lisa

    Since the majority of citizens in New Jersey support gay marriage, this is just another waste of money to the taxpayers. Chris would refuse to sign anything that might interfere with his political aspirations during an election year...it's all so pathetically transparent.

    February 16, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • jayjay

      Are you sure the majority of New Jersey citizens support gay marriage I don't nobody I know does I'm from jersey

      February 16, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • tb63

        Um, according to the article 52% support it. Not huge, but still majority

        February 16, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Craig

        We tend to travel in like-minded groups don't we? I can't speak for the people you know, but I'll bet there are others...people you don't know...who disagree.

        February 16, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Father Mark

        I'm from NJ and I support Marriage for all people gay or straight.

        February 16, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Norman

        jayjay-polls say yes-my three friends in jersey say yes-youre not really so stupid to say "everyone i know..." are you?

        February 16, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
  98. ARALE NORIMAKI

    The whole line that marriage existed before governments is utter BULL You know what marriage was then, it was a contract between a man and the woman's father.It used to be about owning a woman and joining families together for power and property

    February 16, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
  99. Greyman

    Go ahead and let Republicans trot out the culture war stuff and vehement opposition to anything outside their 14th century mindset. I got a feeling the result will be very different from their use of that playbook in 2004.

    February 16, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
  100. Dan

    It was just reported in European papers that Amanda Knox has signed a 2.5 million dollar book deal with HarperCollins.... that is SICK... everyone boycott HarperCollins.

    February 16, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
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