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Opinion: Virginia wants to deny our family exists
Daniel Gri, right, and his husband James Abbott, left, are raising their two sons in Virginia.
February 27th, 2012
05:31 PM ET

Opinion: Virginia wants to deny our family exists

Editor’s Note: Daniel Gri and James Abbott have been a couple for more than 15 years. They had a religious commitment ceremony in 1999, and were legally married in California in 2008.  They are raising two sons, aged 14 and 12, in Virginia.

By Daniel Gri and James Abbott, Special to CNN

Our family lives in a state where our existence is about to be denied.

We certainly know who we are.  We are a loving couple raising two children. We are people of  faith. We are involved actively in conservative political causes.  And there’s no denying that friends, neighbors and even complete strangers can see who we are.  Like us or not, we’re two gay, middle-aged, white dads raising two adopted children who needed homes: one bi-racial teen and one black pre-teen.

But Virginia is now prepared to ignore us – and hundreds of loving couples like us who could provide loving and stable homes to thousands of unwanted children who are in need of homes, too.

In a few days, our state is expected to become only the second in the nation (North Dakota is the first) that will allow state-funded adoption agencies to deny us, and other qualified parents, the ability to foster or adopt children solely because of our sexual orientation.

Supporters of the bill call it the “conscience clause,” but what it does is unconscionable. It allows private adoption agencies, many who contract with the state to place children in adoptive or foster homes, to deny prospective parents because of their sexual orientation.  The bill passed the state Senate last week, but has not yet been signed into law by the Governor.

How did our family get to this place - a state were a group of 140 men and women pass a bill that says it’s OK to ignore or deny the existence of our family?

Well we, along with our two children 14-year old Caleb and 12-year old Alfred, moved to Oakton,Virginia from California in 2004.  We loved the bucolic beauty of the area, the great schools and the sense of community we instantly felt from our neighbors and the people at our church.

Our family fully understood the legal limitations we would encounter as a gay couple in Virginia, even before this adoption measure was proposed.  In California, we were legally married. Here, the law does not respect the sanctity or reality of our marriage.  In California, we were welcomed and encouraged to become adoptive parents by the foster care system.  Here, since the state doesn’t recognize our marriage, and marriage is required to adopt children as a couple, we would have been prohibited from adopting our two beautiful sons.

But now the legislation has passed and if signed into law, as expected, it will explicitly deny the fact that we, and thousands of other qualified people, are already good parents and can be good parents to other children in need.

How can they deny the reality of our family?

More importantly, how can Virginia deny the 1,300 foster children waiting for adoption?   How can they deny them good homes based on some social worker’s vague moral or religious objection?  What about our religious beliefs?

We did not choose to be gay. When each of us realized we were gay, we both asked God why. We believe gay people are made for good reasons. One reason is to help take care of all the children from straight people who are not ready to be parents.

We did not adopt our sons to make a political statement.  We adopted our sons because we had a stable home and could provide a circle of boundless love to children who, because of their age and race, in all likelihood would not have been adopted.  Our sons were 3 years old when they entered our lives.  Statistics demonstrate that that the older a child gets, the less likely they are to be adopted. Without our act of love, it is possible that these beautiful, active boys would be living in foster care or group homes.

Instead, today our sons are honor students in their respective Fairfax County schools. They play football, baseball, and sing in our church’s choir.  In January, they had the opportunity to ski in Stowe,Vermont and have travelled to Eastern Europe, Italy, Panama and Mexico.  Last summer we visited historic sites in New England on our way to a quiet week in a cabin on an island off the coast of Maine.

Most importantly our sons are loved, supported and encouraged.  We look into the eyes of our boys, soon to be young men, and realize that if they were part of the Virginia foster care system, they would have been denied a home with us – their dads.  And we – all four of us together– would have been denied the opportunity to become the loving, nurturing family that we are.

The opinions expressed are solely those of Daniel Gri and James Abbott.

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soundoff (654 Responses)
  1. Leila

    Simply put, the GOP cannot have it both ways! We cannot have a society that insists on denying abortions while at the SAME time denying qualified gay couples to adopt! That makes NO sense. WHO will adopt the unwanted children born to drug addicts, unfit parents, and career criminals???

    February 28, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Mac58

    Perverts raising children, and boys on top of that.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Leila

      And you know that they are "perverts" why?

      February 28, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tanya

      The only thing pervert is your post, you sir are a jack-ass.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      They're not Catholic Bishops. You want perverts? look there

      February 28, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maestro Geek

      Don't feed the trolls.

      February 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Dave

    Gay and Conservative may be rewarding politically, but the social aspects of the Republicans include denying that you even have a right to exist. Time to re-think your position.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  4. jub jub

    There's a lot of misinformation in this article, because this is nothing but an attack on religous rights, since church affiliated adoption agencies would probably be the only agencies that would take advantage of this law. Since church afffiliated groups make up less than 25% of the adoptions in Virginia, it would have no significant effect on whether a gay couple is able to adopt a child. Rather, it would make it impossible for someone to ensure that their child was adopted and raised by a mother and a father who shared their religious beliefs. And no matter how positive they try to make their situation sound, those children don't have a mom, which is a tragedy.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Renait

      So if we pass a law that it's okay to eat people, should be be consoled that ONLY canibals will take advantage of that law?

      February 28, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew

      wow I never thought of it that way... i forgot your religion gives you the right to deny people rights! WOW what a stupid person I am.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sildenafil

      You're incorrect in saying these boys have no mother. They do – and both were unable and/or unwilling to take responsibility for them. Their adoptive fathers are. It's sad any child is put in a situation where they are removed from their biological parents and placed for adoption. It's a happy day when any of these children find their forever families, regardless of the composition of that family.

      February 28, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      "There's a lot of misinformation in this article, because this is nothing but an attack on religous rights, since church affiliated adoption agencies would probably be the only agencies that would take advantage of this law."

      No, the article is accurate. The bill (as it exists now) would allow any and *all* adoption agencies in the state of Virginia that receive state funds to discriminate – not just based on orientation, but also on political affiliation. To imply otherwise is simply dishonest – since it is the state that writes the ordinances that all adoption agencies must operate by. An 'attack on religion' fails – what this law is actually doing is allowing the state to take tax money from Gay and Lesbian Virginians (who have no ability to opt out) and giving it to organizations who want to discriminate against the very citizens from whom they are getting the state funding! That is extremely unfair – I have no doubt that it will fail under judicial scrutiny, but in the meantime...

      "Since church afffiliated groups make up less than 25% of the adoptions in Virginia, it would have no significant effect on whether a gay couple is able to adopt a child. Rather, it would make it impossible for someone to ensure that their child was adopted and raised by a mother and a father who shared their religious beliefs."

      Nope – you're simply restating your earlier point, using different verbage. This law is simply another example of 'Christians' wanting that *special right* to discriminate against someone. This law applies to *all* adoption agencies in the State of Virginia who are licensed by the state – this discrimination would be written into the very licensing rules that allows adoption agencies to operate. Again, Gay and Lesbian Virginians do not get the ability to opt out – to tell the state of Virginia that they don't want their tax money going to organizations that would actively discriminate against them – which is just another example of 'taxation without representation'. Where have we heard that before...?

      "And no matter how positive they try to make their situation sound, those children don't have a mom, which is a tragedy."

      It is *not* a tragedy – this is simply more sophistry from people who themselves have no interest in providing that environment. They 'don't have a mom' because their biological mothers were incapable of taking care of these kids – otherwise, why would they have been taken away from them? You also relegate these two boys to nothing more than anti-Gay propaganda, willfully ignoring how well they are doing with their adoptive fathers.

      Sad, really. But not unexpected.

      February 28, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Colleen

    Sadder still is that this law, as written, will allow adoption agencies to reject any applicant who does not meet the agencies "religious or moral criteria". So it would not just disqualify gay couples, but also single parents, folks from different religious groups, anyone the adoption agency feels like excluding. As of 2010 Virginia already ranks 49th in the nation in adoption rates; so now they are making it more difficult for people to adopt kids who need homes. Where are the pro-lifers now? Virginia has decided to defend foster kids from families who want to adopt them. I'm sure it will comfort those kids as they languish in the foster care system until they age out and are kicked-to-the-curb.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Jerry

    I am a 63 year old gay man who has been with my spouse for 36 years. We have lived in Virginia for the past 13 years and find it to be full of very narrow minded and bigoted people, as is the case everywhere. We are also fortunate to have some really wonderful, supportative relationships with straight people as well. In fact, we do not have any "gay" friends at all. I have lived long enough to know I did not "choose" to be gay and know that, by your personal conduct and behavior, you influence more people than all the harsh talk. By our actions as a couple we have won over more bigots and gay bashers than all the rhetoric could ever do. These two guys should be applauded for trying to raise two young people who needed a home. It is just unfortunate that they chose Virginia to be gay parents.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • SophieCat

      Jerry, as a single white hetero mother, I couldn't agree with you more! What these two men are doing is creating a loving, stable, healthy environment for two children who otherwise wouldn't have such a thing. I, too, applaud them. They deserve our support, encouragement, and help in recognizing and acknowledging that theirs, too, is a legitimate family.

      This family is just as legitimate as my own, and I want them to have everything I have: Strength of family and good neighbors, a community that supports and encourages these children to be a part of it and to grow in it, and as much involvement as they want to have.

      We need to support and love them, just as they are doing for these children.

      February 29, 2012 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
  7. rika33

    I do not see anyone denying their existance – I see them trying to force everyone to accept their beliefs and life style. Anyone who does not is a hater – and our views are muzzled.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pattysboi

      Rika, James and Daniel are NOT "forcing" anyone to accept their family. They simply want AND DESERVE the same rights that a straight family is automatically given. Plain and simple.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • maw

      Their existence is not being denied but their "rights" may be.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  8. R

    Because no straight couple ever abuses, beats, or molests their foster kids. It is sad when the welfare of our children is shoved aside because a bunch of sheep swallowed the conservative kool-aid. Nonsense like this is the reason I left the church.

    February 28, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
  9. ILikeRush

    You Perverts are a disgrace to mankind and should be exiled together on an island somewhere so y'all cannot contaminate the youth in this country.

    February 28, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rena

      Then perhaps maybe you should start adopting since it is your belief that children would be better off with you. That's the discusting part, most of those who think gay people should not adopt, have done nothing to help those kids themselves. And yet, this great gay couple will probably read your horrible remark and say a prayer for you and your type. Because you need it.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      You Christians used to say the same thing about Jews. Any idea when you're going to stop hating people because of a hallucination you've had about god?

      February 28, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mirsh

      yes, because clearly your hate-filled home of prejudice and bigotry is a MUCH better place to raise children.

      February 29, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  10. SMMOORE

    WOW- so much hate and ignorance. Have you noticed that the majority of 'haters' can't spell or use pronouns properly? Those that are writing clear certainly have dictionary.com open in another window. Studies have shown that there is a direct link between low I.Q. and prejudice, racism and conservative views. All you idiots don't have to prove it again with your posts. We already know that you are of (WAY) below average intelligence. You really shouldn't be allowed on a computer.

    February 28, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill the Cat

      Wow... don't break your arm patting yourself on the back there...

      February 28, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • buzzard1

      That's like the kettle calling the pot black, cupcake. Read your own post again before sending to ensure the wording is correct

      February 28, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Leila

      So basically what you're saying is that anyone here who DOES use proper grammar, spelling and conventions MUST be using dictionary.com? You are ignorant.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  11. TRH

    How can you and your family be active in "conservative causes?" That baffles me.

    February 28, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • GodHatesWindbags

      Regardless of your hateful beliefs, We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal

      February 28, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • mke414

      Anti-gay marriage isn't the only conservative cause. If anything, I'd say that and anti-abortion are the least important of conservative causes. How about fiscal responsibility? Tax breaks for businesses? Property tax breaks? Those tend to be the most important to people I know who vote conservatively.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  12. cbr

    These men love each other and their adopted sons. They have been devoted parents and care deeply for their children. They deserve our praise. Where are all those who are against gay marriage and adoption? There are no long lines at adoption agencies waiting to adopt older children or children with special needs.

    Children need good homes. It does not matter if the parent is gay, straight or single or if the couple is gay or straight. What matters is the children who will be in good homes and grow up loved and cared for. Foster parents deserve our thanks but they may not permanent and the children can be moved from one home to another.

    February 28, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
  13. carlyjanew6

    http://www.Hear-The-Truth.com

    February 28, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
  14. sarah

    I have read every post so far & they sincerely make me sad. I cannot believe that people are still so fearful & full of hate for something they do not understand.

    I truly believe that every child deserves a loving & supportive home – and I fully support anyone who not only wants to love & care for children who don't have anyone otherwise; but makes the commitment to do so.

    February 28, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Bill the Cat

    Booo hooo.... They never should have been allowed to adopt those boys.

    February 28, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • behonest1

      why? because you were going to adopt them and give them a happy life?

      February 28, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        If it didn't cost 5,000 to 10,000 in Virginia and includes a freakin CREDIT check, heck yes... I'd adopt a gaggle!

        February 28, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • mke414

        Yes because financial security (what they use the credit check for) isn't important when you are adopting a child...

        February 28, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        Bill, you do realize we are talking about human children here, not puppies or house plants?

        February 28, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • LostinSLC

      Should these kids not have that choice and not the State? Then you complain about the money, don't use that as an excuse. Either put up or shut up buddy......if you are not going to pony up the money to supply kids with a home then allow those who have the resources to do it.
      Frankly people like you should never have a say, all you do is contribute to the problem and provide zero resolution for the issue at hand. These kids need homes and they have one. Unless you and thousands of other families are going to take in all the kids needing families, how can you pretend to be a part of the resolution?

      February 28, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        Sorry, but money IS the issue. Whether you like it or not. Most people don't adopt because they simply can't afford to, or the hassle is simply unmanageable.
        Susan Newman, Ph.D, says "Some couples are lucky; the adoption goes smoothly. Increasingly, however, adoption is snarled, discouraging, and costly whether you adopt in the United States or internationally. That could be why only two percent of American families adopt."

        February 28, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        Bill, this is called selection.
        If you cannot afford to foot a few thousand $ for adoption, you cannot afford to raise kids anyway, they will cost you a lot more than that (unless you plan on starving them). The adoption process is indeed tough, that is why only people who really want to give kids a good home follow through, like these two men. Lazy people like you who only do what is cheap and easy just give up.

        February 28, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • sparky99

        Oh, so you would deny someone their RIGHT to participate in free elections?
        You would deny someone their RIGHT to voice their opinion in a free and legal manner?
        All because they express an opinion that is different from your own.
        I spent a 27 year career in the military and lived daily with the motto that while I may disagree with your opinion, I would gladly give my life to defend your RIGHT to hold and express it.

        February 28, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mirsh

      LMAO......... so wait.......... let me get this straight Bill the Cat..........

      You can't come up w/ 5-10K (a typical down-payment on a house...) nor can you pass a credit check (since you cited that as the second reason you wouldn't adopt...) BUT... somehow... you seem to think you'd be better for children than these guys???

      February 29, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mirsh

      LMAO......... so wait.......... let me get this straight Bill the Cat..........

      You can't come up w/ 5-10K (a typical down-payment on a house...) nor can you pass a credit check (since you cited that as the second reason you wouldn't adopt...) BUT... somehow... you seem to think you'd be better for children than these guys???

      Give me a break

      February 29, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Chitty Bang

    My biggest issue is that being GAY is a CHOICE. You aren't born GAY. Being Black, White, Brown, Yellow, Male or Female, NO CHOICE. Gay = CHOICE

    February 28, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • behonest1

      so is being closed minded...

      February 28, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Thomas

      Just like you I suppose. You could go gay but "choose" to be straight.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • LostinSLC

      People like you make me life, you say it is a choice yet you have no hard data to ever prove that point. Every talk to anyone gay? Do you really think they like having people like you taunt them daily and harass them? Do you really think they "choose" to have people ostracize them?
      Your point is mute, you are making a choice to make up a statistic to make yourself feel better....epic failure

      February 28, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • want2believe

      The AMA, APA, AAP, and other major medical organization disagree with you. Rejecting science is the real choice here.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Nathaniel

      The problem here is that you are on the wrong side of the political action. You state: "We are involved actively in conservative political causes". The "conservative side", is the the side pushing themovement that is persecuting your family. You can't complain about the outcome when you are supportive of the movement that is pushing the legislation. There is no such thing as have cake and eait it too.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Rena

        Just have to say that there is such a thing as having your cake and eating it – however you can't eat your cake and still have it.

        February 28, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mirsh

        Conservative values is NOT the same thing as supporting the current whackjob "conservatives"....

        February 29, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • coder

      obviously you did not learn while being educated
      just as you have no choice in being as indifferent as you proclaim to be
      the DNA you are born with – is not your choice
      just ask any child molesting priest – its in their DNA

      February 28, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • jimmy carducci

      Is being a breeder a choice then too?

      February 28, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mirsh

      Modern medicine and science dispute your theory.

      So does anyone who's ever had a gay friend, cousin, sibling, etc that they KNEW was gay from a very young age... I have a few couple cousins and we've always known they were even before they came out. A guy I went to school with has been obviously gay since we were in kindergarten together... .

      Back in the old days you just called them "sissys" or "tomboys" and thought they were odd...

      NOT A EFFIN' CHOICE.

      February 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  17. steve r

    while I feel bad for you, you're not smart people. A smart gay couple would not take part in conservative political causes, and most assuredly, would not move to a southern state. My advice: smarten up and move back to CA, or any blue state.

    February 28, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • behonest1

      that's the easiest logical way... but these states need trailblazers.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Nate

    Its funny that the Gay couple doesnt want 160 legislators in office to make decisions about their lives. But when Legislators and Judges make rulings in their favor they are all for it. Its also funny that they call those who disagree with them bigots, but when they disagree with others religion or morals, they are freedom fighters. In reality they are just gay bigots. thats right I said it...GAY BIGOTS

    February 28, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      So you're surprised when people object to having their rights REMOVED but are pleased when their rights are restored? Yeah, that sounds like a conservative. Always willing to give someone else's rights to someone else, to paraphrase Mark Twain.

      You guys ever think of minding your own business?

      February 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • D

      Bigots are prejudiced and intolerant. These gentlemen are not trying to limit or remove rights from the opposition, they are merely fighting for their personal freedoms...hence freedom fighters.

      I see you've been bitten with that "conservative hypocrisy" bug...the one where you think your right to force others to follow your delusional mindset outweigh their actual rights in life. I cannot wait until your kind educate themselves, lose their right to vote, or die off. The world would be a better place without your mentality.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nate

        Go enjoy that Turkish Snowcone D!

        February 28, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        Oh, you mean like being intolerant of my right to teach my children biblical morality?

        February 28, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Biblical morality? Now THERE is an oxymoron! How can a religion which, for 19 centuries approved of slavery, call itself 'moral'? There is no such thing as 'biblical morality'.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • LostinSLC

        Bill the Cat- I am a proud Christian and I do not buy into the hate you spout. You are the equivalent of a radical Muslim, makes me ill

        February 28, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nate

        Gays can still adopt from those agencies willing to allow them to. Relax.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nate

        LostinSLC You call Bill something similar to a radical muslim, but yet you claim your a christian and you support gay marriage. Wouldnt you be a Radical Christian in most Christian eyes. If your gonna spout off, please make sure you make some kind of sense.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        @bob

        you are ignorant of what biblical slavery was (hint...it wasn't Roots)

        @Nate

        I don't expect logic from that side. It comes with the territory when I correct stupidity and hypocrisy.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Bill the cat thinks he understands Roman slavery. He doesn't. He hasn't read about it. He thinks it was decent and humane. Typical of a right winger. Always willing to miminize death as long as someone else pays the price.

        Roman slavery was evil. So was the slavery Christians imposed on blacks. Another reason Christianity is an evil religion

        February 28, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Thomas

    All of the three Republican candidates: Santorum, Romney and Gingrich also claim their support of conservative values and causes and do so with their religions supporting them. All three would deny you not only the adoption of your sons but also your marriage. But they are all three good conservative christians: one who is a Catholic serial adulterer, one a Mormon who will cheat you out of your job and pension if he can make a buck from it and if he won't have to pay taxes on the amount he stole and one really good Christian who wants to tell you how his god should dictate your life whether its contraception or conception or marriage, or even your health insurance but only by his interpretation of his god. Go ahead support those good "conservative values" by these good Christians and see where they take you.

    February 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • durundal

      correct me if I am wrong here, but it seems like a lot of these hyper religious bills being passed around are being funded and pushed by the Mormons .... and its being done by out of state parties

      February 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Thomas

        You are correct. Proposition 8 which halted gay marriage in California was passed (but recently overturned by the courts) largely because of out of state money from the Mormon church.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Thomas

        The men in this article were married in California during that short window of time before propostion 8 was voted on. They can't be married in California today.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        Nope. The Mormons just have the biggest mouths.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Yepyep6598

    @Yankee Doodle i wish, said the same about California which is a drag on the economy.

    February 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Soo Tired

    Perverts

    February 28, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • LostinSLC

      Stop talking about yourself like that....pretty pathetic

      February 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      No doubt talking about the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops

      February 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
  22. anon

    Ummm, these parents are awesome, I wish they would have adopted me from my terrible, abusive, straight family.

    February 28, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Anonymous

    Apparently ignorance is bliss in this country. Since when does the government have a right to dictate to people what they can and cannot do when it comes to marriage and family? These men love each other. So what?! They're providing a stable home for these children, and that doesn't mean these kids will grow up gay. It boggles my mind that people think this. Unless you've been adopted, you don't know how difficult that former life is for a child. These two men are willing to provide a home and unconditional love. I just want to hug them.

    February 28, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  24. mikeM

    You might not catch "gay" but children would grow up to think that it's OK. Our society seems to think that aberrant behavior is just fine. Causes no harm. One should "accept" it as perfectly normal. What a sad future for our nation.

    February 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kenny of Salt

      On the other hand, they might grow up thinking that narrow-minded, reactionary responses to uncomfortable subjects are okay, and that carefully considered and thoughtful reponses are too much work.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Laura

        Couldnt have said it better! Right On!!!

        February 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • behonest1

        zinger buddy!! well put!

        February 28, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        Logic IS pretty "narrow minded"...

        February 28, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • DKM

      Hey Mike, kids grow up to accept the beauty in others. Unfortunately, if they are raised in a home filled with your kink of hate – they MAY grow up to be haters too. Sad for our country!

      February 28, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • MikeBigD

      I'm sure there's a lot about you that's not OK. Not even counting your bigotry. Is this the way you were raised?

      February 28, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • glenn

      sooo....you're saying it's not ok to be gay?

      February 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • matthart70

      It wasn't that long ago that the "great" people of Virginia thought that interracial marriage was "aberrant behavior" also.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark W.

      Mike, you and radical Islam have a lot in common regarding gays ....

      February 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        In radical Islam gays are executed Iran did it last year very bad comparison be thakful there are christians because if Islam was the religion of the U.S. believe me you wouldnt be talking gay rights because they would not have any rights.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • David

      A child would be infinitely better off growing up thinking that gay is okay than growing up raised by the government. That's essentially what foster care is. They move you around from family to family, not wanting you to grow "attached" until you are 18, so you grow up learning that you can't trust anyone and all human relationships are disposable. Conservatives don't believe the government can do ANYTHING right. Why would they trust it to raise children? I trust two gay men to raise a child better than the government and 20 different foster homes.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • SME

      What harm is being caused? Psst...there have always been gay people. Always. It hasn't stopped humans from regenerating or ruined the state of marraige and families.

      February 28, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
  25. matthart70

    This is hate, pure and simple. Sick, sick hate. People can put the "Christian values" spin on this all they want, but if they look deep down they know that they are haters. They would rather see children without parents than children with gay parents. It is so sad that a religion can turn people into monsters. So sad.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • WOW

      Your right, religion makes monsters, religion has killed more people than all world wars combined! Not knocking religion, just saying!

      February 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
  26. hammer05

    You have a choice where you can adopt a child from. No one is forcing you to adopt through a religious organization. Your "rights" do not allow you to infringe upon the right of others to freely exercise their faith..

    February 28, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ray

      hammer05 you are an idiot. This "conscious clause" is just an excuse to allow people to hate. Open your mind and understand that being "gay" is not a choice or "deviant behavior" that makes gay people criminals. As a gay man, I pay my taxes, have a job I love, support the community I live in and want to grow old with me husband. What is the problem with loving my husband and our three children? How does who I love affect you or anyone else? Get a grip and understand – it sounds like you are more worries that I am more likely able to love my children than you are.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      So a straight couple can walk into a Virginia adoption agency, fill out the forms, go through the interview process, and voila! They're qualified.

      A Gay or Lesbian couple walks into a Virginia adoption agency, fills out the forms and – oops! 'You're Gay!' They get denied.
      A Gay or Lesbian couple walks into a private adoption agency (but licensed through Virginia), fills out the forms and – oops! 'Our license with Virginia will be jeopardized if we let you adopt!' They get denied.

      On and on and on... some 'choice'. Really. /eyeroll

      February 28, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mirsh

      How is denying children who need a family the chance at a loving home "practicing your faith"? It's simply legalized discrimination. In my opinion, it's way more Christian to want as many children as possible who need homes to have them...

      Virginia is working its ass off to move as far backward as it can as fast as possible...

      February 28, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
  27. LostinSLC

    For those who support this law, let me ask you this. Are you are ok with children who need a loving home instead sit in a State "warehouse" with no family because you have an issue with gay parents? These men are raising these kids and trying to give them a real chance in life, but in your eyes that is too much and you would rather these kids have no one at all?
    You are unwilling to open your own home and take these kids in, but you prefer to help support the block of gay parents as well. So you provide no resolution and the ones really getting hurt are these kids with no parents to call their own. Show me a viable study that shows kids adopted in gay family become damaged in some way.......I bet you can't.
    These men are providing a loving home and stable environment and the fact you would prefer these kids have no home at all make you pathetic in so many ways. If you died today and your children had one of two choices, state custody in a group home or a gay family home where they can have a semblance of a life which would you really choose?

    February 28, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  28. skip

    i, being gay, applaud these two men.

    there sure is a lot of hate here. sad.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • LostinSLC

      I being straight support them as well

      February 28, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ashley

      I'm a married straight female and I support these two men as well.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • durundal

      its not directed towards their orientation, just their poor choice in party. You can take your pick of a clever analogy, but it simply isnt smart to support a platform that would rather you didnt exist

      February 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maggie

      I'm a "straight" [whatever that is] female and completely support these men. I will never understand how two people living in a committed relationship can threaten anyone else's choices.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  29. mcp123

    "support conservative political causes"

    Well you know... whats amazing about conservatives is that the same delusion that affects Santorum and others in the republican party seems to be affecting you. You clearly are supporting the party that is against your way of life... and its your mistake.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andy

      As a gay man, I am amazed at our own community voting "conservatively" then expecting these same conservatives not to propose anti-gay legislation. Wake up fellas!

      February 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  30. TAK

    I'm much more concerned about two conservatives raising kids than two gays.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bertina

      Especially two gay conservatives, I mean, how confusing is that?

      February 28, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • us1776

      At least what passes for "conservative" these days.

      .

      February 28, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  31. FN

    Well your right I guess you are born "gay", I was born straight so I cannot comment on that but the kids are fine at the moment, but what happens when those boys are sixteen or so and decide on their own free will that maybe its not normal what is going on between dad 1 and dad 2, and they don't subscribe to their agenda! Obviously if they are straight they will have some forrm of feeling towards the issue with a "us" and "them" connotation.
    Virginia has it right in my book!

    February 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • TAK

      So who you are attracted to is now an "agenda"? Moron.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cedar Rapids

      Well first off how likely is it that these kids will actually turn around and declare they don't agree with the dad's 'agenda'?

      February 28, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • FN

        Everyone keeps saying your born "gay" so either they have selected kids to adopt who are "gay" also or they are "straight". At some point they will feel different if they are straight. Oh and TAK, point the Moron finger at yourself, its a more accurate look in the mirror for you.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • LostinSLC

        So FN, reply to my question to you. Would you open up your home and would all the other people who are against gays adopting be willing to spend the next 20 years raising children that are not your own? If not then how can you even have a say in something that affects these kids so directly? You think with such a narrow vision you miss the global impact choices like Virgina has on these kids and their ability to grow up in a secure environment.
        I was a child of adoption and I can tell you I spent two years in a state home with close to 200 other kids. There was no structure and no one to really go to as a parent figure. Without adoption I fear of how I would have become a parent myself when I grew up.
        Think outside the box more, see the impact on everyone before throwing in this type of opinion

        February 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      Makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever. None. Not a shred. You're basing this on what the kids MAY think in the future? What about kids of straight parents who don't like their parents? I mean, did you actually READ what you wrote? Why should a parent's lifestyle be dictated by some IMAGINED harm? Of all the loose thinking, THIS stands among the tops!

      February 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • LostinSLC

      So let me understand this, you are ok with children who need a loving home instead sit in a State "warehouse" with no family because you have an issue with gay parents? These men are raising these kids and trying to give them a real chance in life, but in your eyes that is too much and you would rather these kids have no one at all?
      Opinions like yours make me severely ill. You are unwilling to open your own home and take these kids in, but you prefer to help support the block of gay parents as well. So you provide no resolution and the ones really getting hurt are these kids with no parents to call their own.....pathetic

      February 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • ColoradoDad

      Agenda? seriously? its all a conspiracy....gay people adopt kids and GASP! turn the kids gay through brain washing, ie. proper education, loving family, and an eye for fashion. LOL!!

      February 28, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kenny of Salt

      Not a problem. Virtually ALL children "break" with their parents over one thing or another, and virtually ALL children remain connected to their parents throughout their lives. Human relationships are not as simple as you fear. The boys may well have some issue with their fathers in the future; the father of EVERY 15YO boy is a complete idiot, just ask him. but that doesn't mean they won't work through those issues and move on like virtaully every other family in the world throughout the entire history of mankind except the French Revolution.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Suzanne

    I'm starting to think Virginia isn't anti-gay as much as it's anti-children.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill the Cat

      Don't try to think. It will only make you mad that you aren't capable of it.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mirsh

        BtCat: You are by far the most ignorant poster on this entire thread. Not only does your ignorance, hate, bigotry and self-importance show through, but your complete lack of education is quite apparent as well.

        February 29, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  33. ART

    Serves you right for being actively involved in conservertive causes. No gay person should ever be a conservative, being gay and conservertive is an oxymoron. Conservertive do not like you the Rethuglican party does not like you, wake up gay people. Everytime I hear about log cabin rethuglicans I laugh my a** off.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • JBR

      People are born gay, they aren't born socialist.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Mike

    Just remember, America – a vote for a Republican is a vote for theocracy.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  35. InVA2

    As a Virginian who voted in the last state election, I was appauled and scared when the Republicans won the state. People in Virginia need to wake up!!! Religious freedom is great, but others beliefs and values should not be legislated down our throats. As for the gentlemen in the article, I applaud your adopting these young boys. However please take note next time who and what you are voting for.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Shane

    If god would have wanted gay men to have kids he would of gave them the same parts as women.

    Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

    February 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      No one cares what god wants. He can mind his own business and keep his nose out of things that don't concern him.

      So can you.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Shane

        A lot of people care what god wants or would like! maybe if you did too you wouldn't leave leave such an ignorant comment

        February 28, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Can't help your jesus hallucinations dude. You see how sick and bigoted it's made you. Maybe if you worried about jesus less and people more, you wouldn't be obsessed with other people's bedrooms.

        February 28, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Suzanne

      Who are Adam and Eve and why does your belief in their existence have any impact on what I do with my life?

      February 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Shane

        I could care less what you do with your life, but when it becomes public like these two yahoos did, it is open for ridicule.
        And Like you have done I am expressing my opinion, If you think it is right or wrong that is up to you. But it is my belief that marriage is between a man and a woman and these to guys craving attention wont change that. Neither will you

        February 28, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        You can bet that if someone said something about his idiot jesus-god he'd be whining about how HE'S being oppressed but let someone else try to live their own life and he's offended. What morons these people are worrying about other people's bedrooms.

        February 28, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cedar Rapids

      So in other words....mythology over reality?
      Well if it helps you to live in your own fantasy world then good for you.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Shane

        Fantasy for me no, but you need to get out of the house more. Try reading more educational books or religious books and put down the twilight

        February 28, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • VAHater

      Harry and Ron. Edward and Bella. Oh, I'm sorry. Aren't we posting the names of fictional characters?

      February 28, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Shane

        VAHater same comment to you as cedar rapids.

        February 28, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ray

      What does God have to do with loving parents wanting to care for two adorable children? I suppose God decided that these two young beautiful boys weren't worth caring for so they should be thrown away too. I mean, one is bi-racial and the other is black, right? You religious zealots need to keep your God out of other peoples business! You talk about about a gay "agenda" but the point is that there are going to be more kids in foster care (that, yes, you are going to have to pay for through your tax dollars) rather than putting them in loving families. It makes no sense and actually just makes me sick to know people like you exist.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Shane

        Ray, poor Ray,
        Maybe if you was to pick a religion, any religion you would be a better parent. As for the kids they could be purple, If they were my kids I would love them unconditionaly. I pay for enough zealots on welfare such as yourself that im used to it and dont worry about it any more.

        February 28, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      So Gays adopting kids into loving homes, and out of the 'system' is wrong, but populating the world via INCEST is all right in your book....

      Oooooookay. /eyeroll

      February 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Shane

        Another Uneducated person with a personal attack, wow im almost offended. But Maybe thats how you were conceived.
        Sigh
        oooooooooooooookay eyeroll

        February 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Stacey

    To all posters defending VA's legislation, by all means please do stand up and adopt a bi-racial kid, or a mentally or physically challenged kid, or a kid scarred by negligence and abuse (because that's the reality of most of those 1,300 children waiting in foster care to be adopted). Oh, I see, you are not actually willing to stand up and adopt such a child yourself. THEN SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP. Please let willing and caring gay couples do the hard work for you!! It's the least you can do for those children.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lynne

      Beautifully Said!!

      February 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Suzanne

      This.

      This isn't about not having to see gay people be treated equally. This is not about recognizing that people different from you exist. This is about children needing stable, loving homes that they aren't currently getting right now. They're being placed in group homes, shipped from one foster family to the next, and never having the privilege to call someone "Mom" OR "Dad."

      It'd be better for a kid two have two moms or two dads than no moms or dads at all.

      This new legislation does not ban gay couples from adopting and encouraging more adoption by straight couples. It just bans the gay couples. It does not, in any way, increase the adoption rates of children in need. The direct result of this is that fewer children will have homes.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Gman

        So which one of you guys is mom today and which one is dad?

        February 28, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Angie

      Indeed, Stacey, well said, indeed.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • ColoradoDad

      Bravo! couldn't have said it better.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • maggie

      This looks like a pretty nice family to me. And to all of these posters here who think that somehow children will be damaged by being in gay families, they are really much more englightened than you are and I would bet that they are scarred far more by the missing parents or the fighting that often goes on with those who aren't. Virginia really is becoming a Taliban state.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      Bravo! Excellent response!

      February 28, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Hypatia

    Virginia seems to be in some kind of contest with Texas and Alabama to see which state can be more Nazi.

    February 28, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      did you not know that a majority of african-americans do not accept gay marriage. who do you think stop the proposition in calfornia when it was put to a referendum 76% of african-americans said no so what do you think about that. and that seems to reflect nationwide. I tell you what have you heard any black leaders speak up for gay rights? Think about it, white liberals have pushed the issue to the forefront. I believe african-americans are the only ones that can save america by standing on the Word of God.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • BobA

        and you notice both of these children are black of mixed so the black comunity needs to do a better job with their own children instead of judging those who raise and care for your outcasts.

        I suppose you have a couple of adopted children or do you just sit in judgement of others

        February 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • Baby-Eating Liberal

        Again, just because people support or oppose something by virtue of their faith does not make them either right or virtuous. For example, Christian Scientists (as opposed to scientists who are Christian) oppose routine medical care, even for children who may die without treatment. They do not, then, attempt to ban medical treatment for everybody else. Black Christians may overwhelmingly support, say, making tomatoes illegal – but this is an opinion, and not an argument.

        Again, you have made a non-statement.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • maggie

        I'm sorry to say yep-yep that many African Americans have given up on marriage, period, as a norm in their lives.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • MsB

        I'm an African-American straight female, 60yrs old, and I support gay marriage. Stop trying to speak for my people!

        February 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      Thank you for not coming to Texas Hypatia and nobody gives a d a m n what you call the Lone Star State. I will accept the compliment this is coming from a blackman who is not a christian.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cedar Rapids

        so out of curiosity, what are you then? jewish? muslim? hindu?
        you make a great show about proclaiming god then claiming you are not a christian so what religious affiliation do you claim?

        February 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yankee Doodle

        Could your state please secede already?

        February 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Baby-Eating Liberal

        Blackman: where law holds no sway, Blackman shall save the day. Shazam!

        February 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      @BobA I bet you want say that to the black community I bet that. And no white liberal leader is going to say it either I wish you white liberals would really tell blacks what you really think about them and stop hiding behind that cloak of political correctness and PLEASE stop saying the things saying things we want to hear to get the black vote it aint becoming valuable anymore with the influx of Mexicans coming across the border.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
  39. andrew.peter

    Please consider that many states don't allow adoptions to single parents, and make it especially hard for single men to adopt, though they may qualify.
    Just because a single person can have a child anytime they want, doesn't mean the state should throw them a child anytime they ask.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • ColoradoDad

      Thats not the point. If the only grounds for denying a gay couple from adopting is the fact that they are gay, then this is discrimination. Like denying a perfectly suitable hetero couple from adopting because they are catholic, and we all know how catholics view pedophilia....right? Yes, i'm using generalisations, I know not all catholics are that way. but the point is exactly that. You cannot deny someone based on generalizations. provide me ONE good argument against a gay couple adopting, and remember keep religion out of it.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        @bob my, my, my never accept the truth right bobby, just twist it. You can beat the s h y t out of a cat and tell it to bark but it want and it cant because nature didnt create it that way. And you want us to believe 2 men together is normal you could beat the s h y t out of me and even kill me I would still tell you it isnt normal.

        February 28, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        @bob my, my, my never accept the truth right bobby, just twist it. You can beat the s h y t out of a cat and tell it to bark but it want and it cant because nature didnt create it that way. And you want us to believe 2 men together is normal you could beat the s h y t out of me and even kill me I would still tell you it isnt normal. Believe that.

        February 28, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      @Cedar Rapids
      I dont claim any religion I claim the Word of God period. It's obvious you are guided by nothing no man in his RIGHT MIND believes two men together as a man and woman is normal. I will reiterate this again RIGHT MIND is the key. If it quacks like a duck walks like a duck it must be a duck and not a dog.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      @Cedar Rapids
      I dont claim any religion I claim the Word of God period. It's obvious you are guided by nothing no man in his RIGHT MIND believes two men together as a man and woman is normal. I will reiterate this again RIGHT MIND is the key. If it quacks like a duck walks like a duck it must be a duck and not a dog. PERIOD

      February 28, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        So Yep's argument is "If i say it often enough, stamp my feet and hold my breath 'til I turn blue, that will make it true'. No logic. No reasons....no evidence. Just blather. Not a single logical reason.

        Argued like a true conservative.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Home

    Next time check out the VIEWS of the actual candidates you elect and stop blindly voting for your team.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Dennis

    When are we going to quit out-lawing polygamy in this country.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • bob

      More ignorant vomiting from the lunatic right. Polygamy WAS a religious practice so you're obviously FOR it. AND it demeans women which is a bonus for you. But polygamy has SOCIAL consequences while gay marriage has NONE. But the evidence won't stop your hysteria.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mitch

        Using caps like that is so gay. Prissy and gay.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • ColoradoDad

        Have to disagree with you there bob. I believe all people should be allowed to marry. I also have no issue what so ever with polygamy. As long as all involved are consenting adults, then marry as many men or women as you'd like.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Except we know for a fact there's never been a healthy polygamous society in history. Look at Saudi Arabia today. And it always winds up bad for women. But gay marriage is a success.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • Snagglez

        bob – Agree with you that polygyny (man marries more than one wife) often ends up with women being subjected in traditional societies, but in many cases in America such as polyamorous couples, it works fine.

        Of course you would think the conservative right would be all over polygyny since all the Patriarchs of the Judeo-Christian church were polygamous. Personally I could care less who marries whom so long as they give me the same respect.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • FN

      LMAO, yea, all you have to do is complain and organize and we can get that passed too!

      February 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      So instead of whining about polygamy 'discrimination' on an Internet forum, why don't you take your case to court and get a fair hearing? Oh wait, that's right – it's EASY to whine about it, trying to make a 'slippery slope' fallacy instead of taking your challenge to court...

      ...or adopting a kid.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Voltairine

    Dear Virginia Legislature,

    Grow up.

    Sincerely,

    21st Century

    February 28, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill the Cat

      Dear 21st Century... quit forcing your perversion on me.

      Sincerely,
      The USA

      February 28, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        That's what you guys said about interracial marriage as well. Any idea how often you're going to drink from that cesspool before you grow up?

        February 28, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
  43. PaulE in Louisville

    So ridiculous (as are most of the comments here, but that's to be expected – education is sorely lacking in this country). However, I question how these two men continue to vote "conservatively" when most conservatives would like to see them gone (figuratively and, in some cases, literally). I'm sorry – although I feel sorry for your kids and I hate what Virginia is doing, stupid is as stupid does.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  44. garc

    This is happening for the same reason Virginians proposed the idiotic anti-woman ultrasound stuff they came up with a few weeks ago. This state is run by ultra-conservative meatheads, and if we don't want it to go any more santorum-esque (if that is possible), we all need to speak up.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • durundal

      welcome to the breeding ground of what is turning power over to states – much easier to become a local governor and implement your own little playground of inbred theology to control peoples lives. Oh gee, maybe thats why we have that big overarching gubbmint – to prevent these backwards states for wantonly violating others rights

      February 28, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • NKBL

      Not all Virginians agree with the petty, small minds residing in our current state government. It's up to those of us in Virginia who disagree to speak up and push back. I refuse to accept their archaic ways and I will push back.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill the Cat

      How freakin hilarious!! An ultrasound probe inserted 1.5 inches into a woman is "invasive" while an abortion is not? Do you people even know which side of your face you are speaking out of at any given moment?? Sheesh!

      February 28, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Any reason why you right wingers think the govt should force a woman to have something shoved in her body against her will? You guys think women's bodies are govt property.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        Bob...Any reason you left wingers think a baby wants something shoved in their bodies against their will, like a pair of scissors or a loop shaped knife? Hypocrit much?

        February 28, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mirsh

        They are 10" long, not 1.5.... idiot.

        here's scneario... the gov't suddenly says that you have to have an anal probe for.... whatever the reason... You're OK w/ that, right? I mean... that's not invasive.... just the mere act of shoving something in your body against your will is invasive by definition.

        I truly pity any children or grandchildren you may have. I hope they were able to avoid the bitter hate you clearly have in your heart...

        February 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
  45. oxford golfer

    The Nazi are allive and back in Virginia, remember the saying "Evil thrives when good men do nothing" the governing people in virginia should be ashamed (and put out of office immediatly). But like good repulicans they love to crush good decent people.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Gman

    Waah! Move back to California.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • loring

      I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      February 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  47. DoubleEM

    Don't like it – move out.
    I think that it is wrong and dangerous to push conservatives to the corner.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • LeaveBlank

      Oh please...

      February 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • SKW

      Yeah, let's push loving families in the corner! That's right and honorable!

      February 28, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cedar Rapids

      "I think that it is wrong and dangerous to push conservatives to the corner."

      why? are they unhinged and dangerous?

      February 28, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • SME

      Religious organizations aside, I should imagine most social workers have seen a LOT and are more open-minded than our current hyper-conservative state legislature

      February 28, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  48. durundal

    You know, I am seeing this as a trend on the whole for many 'republicans'. They foolishly buy into the flash and 'piousness' and vote against their own interests, then complain about absolutely everything and systematically rinse and repeat. I have no pity for these types of people, they simply do not learn – Without our 'liberal' policies protecting the weak minded, Darwin would be cleaning house with these people. I have no remorse for these people, either give up your shoddy gay republican conservative construct or reap what you sow

    February 28, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Josh

    Putting aside the issue of marriage for a moment, I feel there is something deep down wrong when the majority gets to vote on extending a freedom/right/privilege the majority itself enjoys, to any minority.

    Where is the vote on whether blacks can own property? Or the vote on if Jews should be allowed religious freedom?

    February 28, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • LeaveBlank

      Spot on.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        @Alex let me ask you 2 questions.
        1.What color is Michael Vick?
        2.Is Tom Brady of the new England Patriots gay?

        Which of these two questions you could answer without a doubt and get it correct
        Think about it it's not hard

        February 28, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • ing@hotmail.xYepyep6598

      @Josh you gays are always trying to frame your behavior with the skin color of blacks PLEASE FOR GOD SAKE STOP USING THAT ANALOGY FIND ANOTHER ONE.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Alex

        Why do you even think he is a gay ? I am not and I think it is a perfectly valid question. If it is OK to have one anti-gay vote after another, why can't we have a vote to deny black people some rights ?

        February 28, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • LeaveBlank

        Well, you are wrong. But, lets say for a moment you're not. What about Josh's Jewish statement? Do you then think it is OK to refuse their rights? Or is it just black people and gays that make you angry?

        February 28, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ozymandias71

        Discrimination against Gays and Lesbians is JUST AS BAD as discrimination against African-Americans. How can conservatives condemn one and yet support the other? Oh yeah, it all boils down to 'Gays are icky'.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  50. megan

    http://www.conservativeforchange.com/2009/05/what-true-conservatism-really-is.html

    February 28, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Jodie

    Oh, come on, Virginia. First you don't let interracial couples marry, now it's gays. Do you really want to be last in human rights?

    February 28, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      @Jodie do you really believe that interracial marriage is looked down upon whites you better take another look it is widely not accepted in the black community by most not all especially here in the south because of past history. White woman holler rape resulted in a lynching.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • LeaveBlank

        Your angry is showing. Yepyep it is...

        February 28, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • orchiectomizer

        Yepyep, the topic here is gay adoption. Please put your race card away. You may flash it again this afternoon.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • ColoradoDad

        you missed the point.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        puy my racecard away, I will put my racecard away when the white liberal put their racecard away, you all seem to inject it everywhere when election time comes, the fear factor put on those lowly uneducated black ghetto dwellers seem to work FEARMONGERING I will take a page from the white liberal and apply to the gay issues I will use fear.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • Baby-Eating Liberal

        "the fear factor put on those lowly uneducated black ghetto dwellers seem to work"

        No further comment needed. You make my own arguments for me! Like that dog food what makes its own gravy, only with crazy instead.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      never angry but you gays were outraged by Christies veto in NJ Im just laughing

      February 28, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      @BabyEatingLiberal I know your kind well "I got black friends" thats seems to sum up those racist views that you harbor. Smile in their face drink with them and hangout.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Baby-Eating Liberal

        And why exactly do you presume I'm white?

        February 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
  52. LeaveBlank

    Dear Virginia,

    Please dig a moat around yourself and float away into the Atlantic.

    Have a great day,

    Everyone

    February 28, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  53. AMOLINA

    I personally don't agree with Gay marriage especially adoption of children but these two men have posed a very strong and valid point. Proposed their persective in such an amazing manner that even I have begun to change my way of thinking towards this matter. The fathers have provided for their children what their parents could not and have given them literally the best possible. There are other straight couples that could have rasied these children probably in the same steps these two men have but the valid point that stands out to me is that, they have done it, and it is not necessary for a straight family to be the only ones that can help. The more people helping these children in need the better, especially if they are well rounded Americans like these men. I applaud them for their outstanding fathering and wish them luck with their family.

    February 28, 2012 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Daniel Gri

      AMOLINA – I am Daniel Gri – one of the fathers. We have endured nasty comments to our article as well as many wonderful compliments. I however want to thank you personally for your post – your comment make all this worth while. I hope you think more about what you said and share it with others. My family is very grateful for your understanding.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
  54. pntherpaw86

    Time for all gay people to leave Virginia and move to Maryland where your rights are actually protected! Sorry to say, but if Virginia wants to take a time machine back to the 1900s, there's nothing left to do but GTFO

    February 28, 2012 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Jakester

      Some of us need to stay back and fight the good fight...we will eventually prevail...good eventually trumps evil.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Cheese-it

    If you are gay and voting Republican don't complain when the Republicans come to Crucify you. You can be a democrat and go to church. You can be a democrat and not like wasteful spending. You can be a democrat and hang an American Flag outside your home. You can be a democrat and be all about your family. And you can be a democrat (or an independent) who falls into moderation and may vote for a Republican candidate once and a while or be a democrat or an independent who doesn't vote straight ticket.

    February 28, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Ben

      @Cheese-it – Dead on... It used to be that you could espouse different aspects of both parties and you could vote for either depending on where the issues or candidates fell. Nowadays, the entire processes has been hijacked by abortion and gay marriage. Regardless of how you feel about those two topics, there are SO many things that are a much higher priority that are dragging our country down into ruination (education, wars overseas, our spiraling debt crisis, unemployment). I long for the days where Dems and Repubs might not have agreed, but at least they could respect and work with each other. If we can't get along, our country is doomed....

      February 28, 2012 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
  56. anonymous

    why would you support religious and conservative causes? do you want your human rights revoked?

    February 28, 2012 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
    • David Hoffman

      Good question.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:41 am | Report abuse |
  57. maxine

    The Bill also states that the adoption agency can deny based on political or religious beliefs. So if you are a Democrat or Jewish or Muslim or Buddhist you too can be denied adoption.

    February 28, 2012 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
  58. RDLR69

    What I can believe is that they're gay AND conservative. Like that sheriff who was on Romney's campaign and left because of the scandal of trying to have his boyfriend deported. Don't they understand that the conservatives have hopelessly tied conservative fiscal and social issues together, and their kind aren't welcome. What a shame there isn't a party that represent them.

    February 28, 2012 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
  59. Sedona_dog

    Dari is nothing more than a racist and scared of something from his past. Why are you (dari) so full of hate and fear for people who are different than you. God will forgive you and others like you. These childeren are not anything more than happy and mentally healthy. " GOD HAS BLESSED THEM "

    February 28, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
    • f

      Sadly these kids will grow up to be gay because that is all they ever learned from watching their so-called "parents". Real gay people would not subject children to this kind if bizarre behavior. In most states, this is called "endangering the welfare of a child", and "lewdness in the presence of a child". How America got to this point where gays can "marry" and ever more bizarrely actually "adopt" children is beyond me. We used to make sure our children were kept far away from these "funny uncles". Hopefully the November election will turn the tide in the right direction. If these gays want to be married and live and adopt, then they should move to a state where all that is approved. I am not afraid of gays, nor do I hate them, I just think they are wrong and many are mentally troubled. Ok, liberals, fire away........

      February 28, 2012 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
      • mlowen

        Children do not "learn" to be Gay. They are born the way God intends them to be. Every gay person on earth (and the estimates are around 10% of the population–just like left-handedness) had "straight" parents. I am so grateful to God that I am who I am. (And, BTW, I am not identifying my orientation for you.)

        February 28, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Maggiemay

        I love when folks say that being raised by gay parents will make one gay. Pretty sure most gay people had straight parents, so....

        February 28, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Your tin foil hat just slipped. Why the poisonous hatred of gays? You a Klan member by any chance? You're pretty doggone hysterical but, then, right wingers can't think at all. If they DID they wouldn't be conservatives.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Roger

        Why would we fire away? By the time you read this your computer time at the old folks home for the red neck racists will be up.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • M

        Yup... gay parents raise gay kids. Just like straight parents raise only straight kids... oh, wait...

        February 28, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • John

        For the record, I am not a liberal. That being said, you logic is flawed. Think of a particular food you love. Got it? Now, why do you love that food? "just because" and "it tastes delicious" are not valid answers. Give us good sound logical reasons. You can't, I know. That's because it is genetic predisposition. The same way you like women. Or strawberries. You can't say just because his parents are gay, that he will end up gay. The kids will do what they like. Like eat strawberries. Or women...

        February 28, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Martin

        What a very ignorant and bigoted statement.

        I had a close friend who is a lesbian and she and her partner raised two girls from the partner's former marriage. They both went to school, grew up, and guess what, are not gay.

        And given the percentage of straight males that rape (1/3 of American women have been raped), engage in spousal abuse and other pathetic and horrible behaviors, there's a pretty good chance those boys would be far more in danger from you than from their fathers.

        Your bigotry itself makes you far more dangerous than they are.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ray

        What behavior are you referring too? My dad always kissed my mom before they went off to work. My parents made it to every sporting event I played. They were proud of the grades I got in school and supported every decision I have made. They have slept in the same bed for 36 years and have been madly in love since they were 19. So... As a gay man, what is the problem if my sons see me kiss my husband every morning before work or they crawl in between us after having a nightmare; or see their dads in the stands at their sporting events (I have three sons, so the schedule is a bit hectic); or we proudly display their report cards on the fridge when they do well; or know that their dads are crazy for each other. I'm not following how that behavior can translate into anything deviant. You must be referring to those "other" gay people. You need to get out of your trailer park and see that not everything you learn comes from Fox News or Christian Broadcast channel.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
  60. classic

    these kids have an awesome life, can i be adopted?

    February 28, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
  61. Jan

    My heart breaks for your family and potential families like yours. I consider myself a religious conservative. I wish people would stop being so judgemental and live and let live. Obviously in your family, the greatest commandment is most certainly observed:
    esus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
    The Bible says:
    For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Matthew 7:2
    Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. Matthew 7:3-5

    February 28, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
  62. Cece

    So they are politically conservative but whining about how they are about to be denied rights? Boo hoo. I am a huge supporter of gay right but I have NO sympathy for any gay man or woman who votes conservative and then complains aobut how his or her rights are denied by government.

    February 28, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Guy Fawkes

      "We are involved actively in conservative political causes." The equivalent of a black laborer joining the KKK. Conservative policy has been clear forever: gays and gayness is evil and must be eliminated at almost any cost. Log Cabin Republicans: why oh why do you exist. Constrained fiscal policy is fine, but there are plenty of fiscally prudent (am avoiding the "C" word – too close to the "N" word....) Democrats. When you vote Republican you simply prolong your own agonies......

      February 28, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • maxine

      I agree.

      If you are gay and voting Republican then don't complain when the republican's come to crucify you.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        I agree 100% with the other comments. First, if you vote Republican and are gay, you have NO room to talk about how VA is infringing on your rights. In fact, you're a disgrace to the gay community...get out. Second, if you are gay and willingly moved to Virginia, then, again, you have no room to talk. You can find bucolic scenery in MD. I live in Arlington, VA, not far from these guys, with my partner of 20 years. We've seen Virginia slowly widdle away at the rights of gay men and women, and this is just one more step. Arlington is the "progressive" part of an otherwise 19th century/old South/Religiously conservative state.

        February 28, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
  63. Dana

    You two made your bed by voting Repubs, sleep in it now. I am NOT sorry for you at all, and I despise you, not for being gay, but for being not smart enough: how can you be "conservative" if the conservative are the ones that deny your existence as family???

    February 28, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  64. dieseltdi

    BTW this bill also allows (or at least it did in its original form) that the agency can deny adoption or foster status on the basis of political affilication or religious beliefs. How is that for Third Reich thinking?

    February 28, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • dieseltdi

      Of course I meant "affiliation" fat fingers on small keyboard.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • pntherpaw86

      Conservatives keep saying they're fighting for religious freedom, when really they are just trying to enshrine the ability to discriminate against anyone for any reason into law. Very disturbing trend we're seeing in conservative states

      February 28, 2012 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
  65. Gayle

    I am a straight, white, middle aged female from Virginia and want to thank Daniel and James for providing a loving home for two young men. I personally know other gay couples who have provided loving homes for adopted children. At times like this I am ashamed of my representatives. This is nothing more than discrimination and each family (couple) should be judged on their own ability to provide a loving and stable home.

    February 28, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • frank

      I am ashamed at you for being so dumb!

      February 28, 2012 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
      • cassio

        Frank, the wise one has spoken, now back to your trailer sir

        February 28, 2012 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Tired of Bigots

        and i am ashamed of you for being an idiot and a bigot, sir!

        February 28, 2012 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
    • f

      Slow down on the backwoods moonshine honey. Your representatives were elected by the majority of the people who agree with thier ideas. If you don't agree, then get all your friends to vote differently.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
      • pntherpaw86

        Elected officials don't have the authority to legislate civil rights issues

        February 28, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Really?

    Sorry, but as soon as I read " We are involved actively in conservative political causes" I don't feel sorry for them. They are volunteering for the very people that are taking away their rights. Conservatives only care about 1 right, the right to take other peoples rights away.

    February 28, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • YoungEnough

      I would like to know why so many people think they have the right to tell others who or what they "should or need be"? Isn't marriage a personal matter and opinion? It's a choice you make...gay or straight marriage. I think it's no one's business if gay individuals decide to get married or adopt. Are they not human? Am I missing something? We all have a final fate one day and in "MY" opinion, that final fate will reflect your actions during YOUR life. We need to be more concerned over where Amercia is heading financially...not because gays/lesbians want to get married. Who the hell cares..let them. It's not any one elses choice to deny them because it's against the bible, or it's disgusting or offends you. Half the things written on here offend me, but hey it's life. Get over it and let a family be a family. Do you have one? Worry about your own...

      February 28, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • MarylandBill

      Conservatives do not take rights away; indeed many conservatives are the most passionate defenders of freedom there are. What they don't believe in is using state power to force individuals or organizations to act in a certain way. Lets keep in mind here, the law is not about VA denying the rights of anyone. It is about allowing organizations who are independent, but contract with the state to follow their own conscience.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • pntherpaw86

        Hahahahaha you had me fooled for a second, I thought you actually said "conservatives don't take rights away" with a straight face! The only rights you defend are the rights of the religious majority, the rights of minorities have historically been trampled upon by folks prescribing to conservative dogma. The trampling continues today with this horrendous bill!

        February 28, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cedar Rapids

        "It is about allowing organizations who are independent, but contract with the state, to discriminate"

        There, I fixed it for you.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Fritz

    Sorry, Daniel and James - but after years of supporting "conservative political causes," this is exactly what you should have expected. Have you not been paying attention? LIstening to the candidates whose party you support? Do you deserve this? Of course not, but, as with most current Republicans, it's only a problem when it starts happening to you. It's time to rethink your political allegiance, as you should have done all along. Learn from this.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • frank

      your existance is not denied...you imposition on a normal society is! stop playing marriage/homemaker/dad/mom...YOU are not and will never be!

      February 28, 2012 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
      • bob

        What nonsense these bigots push! Their emotionalism and infantile view of human beings would be comic if it weren't so tragic. He gives NO reason for his views. None. All he does is rant and scream like right wingers do when they're denied their 'right' to force their views on others.

        No one is forcing HIM to be gay. But he thinks he has the right to deny OTHERS a right to privacy he insists on for himself. The right is composed of whack jobs.

        February 28, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
      • dari

        Frank, I 100% agree with you. These mentally unstable people impose their beliefs on poor defenseless children who end up as confused adults in therapy. Better for the children to be on the streets or raised in a foster home. I can't believe that this is allowed, long live Virginia!

        February 28, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
      • pntherpaw86

        dari, I pray to God you don't have any children to indoctrinate because THEY will be the ones needing therapy as adults. Love and tolerance will always win out over hate and bigotry.

        February 28, 2012 at 11:41 am | Report abuse |
  68. frank

    typical fake happiness smile in the picture!

    February 28, 2012 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Straight, but not narrow

      Typical fake sentience in the comment.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • dari

      The poor kid on the left looks like he is scared to death. Wow.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
      • VaVoter

        I know this family and they are the best, most well adjusted kids you could every find. The family works and having gay parants has no effect on the kids at all. Dari, you are all wrong. Your beliefs are wrong. People who believe what you believe are wrong. God loves gays.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jakester

        Dari, get a life. Your ignorance and bigotry are showing through.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
  69. frank

    lets talk clearly. THIS IS NOT A FAMILY...........these are 2 men, doing I do not know aht with 2 boys!!!! a family is created when a man and a women decide to create a union, have kids (not buy them, or ask someone else to have them) this is ridiculous, absurd, demented

    February 28, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Solex

      Hatred is NOT a family value...

      February 28, 2012 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      Go back to the 60's lmao stick with the program

      February 28, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Officeflyer

      Frank, I don't usually say this to people, but you're weird.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
      • daveinSC

        franks not weird but the people who think two q u e e r s rasing children in a twisted house is ok, now thats weird

        February 28, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
      • pntherpaw86

        I see we have a new hater joining us, welcome to the party davein! Please, continue to tell us all about why you hate gay people just to show how much of an idiot you really are!

        February 28, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Lynn

      So Frank..in your mind a child who is orphaned or taken away from abusive parents shouldn't be adopted by a loving family because that child isn't "theirs"?

      February 28, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      Wait. I didn't remember reading that they were Catholic Priests, nor Penn State coaches.

      Did I miss something?

      February 28, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mirsh

      ummmmmmmmmmmmm

      So by your definition... the pastor of my church and his wife.... .who have been there for 50 years... are NOT a family because they adopted their children?

      Read your post. That's what you said... when a man and a woman create a child of their own (not buy, or have someone do it for them...)

      So............. by your definition, the guy who lives in my neighborhood that we all know beats his wife and children unmercifully (we have tried to get law involved, don't ask...) is more of a family b/c they were able to connect sperm and egg?

      February 29, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Brian

    Florida also has such same law

    February 28, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  71. rad666

    The people backing this bill should be ashamed of themselves, how dare they deny a child a loving home based on their prejudices.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  72. Bob

    I feel for your family but if all of the gays moved out of the hostile states at once I think it will impact the politicians where it hurts, in tax revenue and economic development. I say let the states compete for its residents. If a locale is hostile to you then find somewhere else where you will be welcomed.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
    • georgethedog

      I like the writer live in Fairfax County. It's just outside of DC and more liberal than the rest of Virginia and most people I know are accepting of gays. They live in a nice area and they like it. Why should they move? In theory, that sounds OK, but it's a huge expense to move, find new jobs, a new house, etc. Not feasible for enough people to make an impact

      February 28, 2012 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
    • frank

      yep, agree...go to china

      February 28, 2012 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
    • matthart70

      It is not feasable for most people to move, but people can boycott these bigoted and ignorant states as tourist destinations. I was planning on taking my family to colonial Williamsburg before reading this article. My son is a colianal history buff. I have now decided to take them to Massachusetts. There is as much colonial history there and they do not discriminate.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mirsh

      So people should just leave.......... their home....... their families, their friends.... where they may have grown up....... because the state is insisting on killing their rights instead of fighting for them?

      So, by your suggestion, is fleeing from conflict the new American way??

      February 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Rumply

    Would these private agencies cease their adoption services if they have to adopt to a group of people they don't "believe" in (like gay couples are suddenly mythical creatures or something). If so, is it better to exclude a smaller group and continue providing services to adopt to the straight and single remainders? If there is no real threat of cesation of efforts to adopt children by these private agencies, then this is simply a power play to be able to discriminate based on a personal belief. Overarching though is the simple question... do we want the government telling private organizations what they can and cannot do? If they are accepting public money and working on public contracts, then the govt has the right to do just that.. if not... then as much as the private policies may offend, I would prefer they have the right to protect other rights we hold as private citizens and organizations.
    The argument however is academic, our governor has already promised to sign this into law.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
  74. Josef Bleaux

    I live in VA (soon to move to another state) and I can tell you that the government here, as well as most of the people, are ignorant, intollerant and racist.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
    • JUNECLEAVERSBEAVER

      Speaking for the whole state are ya?
      Nice broad brush you paint your opinion with.
      I'm sure there isn't any bigoted bone in your body except hatred for those who don't agree with your opinion.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      Is it apparent you are a rube from your generalizations.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
    • frank

      you don't respect the opinion/beleifs of others....good move away!

      February 28, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
      • bob

        So if someone wanted the 'right' to deny blacks the right to marry, you'd be 'tolerant of that? Interesting

        February 28, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • twilkinson

      Really? I live here . I have a masters in nursing . I am neither liberal or conservative. I look at each issue and decide. I was denied the right in the 90's to adopt a biracial child because the liberals thought i could not teach them to be black. Forget the fact that i could teach them to love. I am sure when they speak of being of being conservative they mean fiscally conservative. Also for those of you who paint broad strokes of any group remember you are the Jim Crow south, with hatred and ignorance as your constant companion

      February 28, 2012 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • dari

      Right, probably the state with the smartest people in the entire country and you disagree because they won't let two men spread disease and confuse innocent children. There is a reason why most think tanks, the Pentagon, and the best job market in the country is in VA and the DC metro area.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Ah, the right continue to belt out lunatic fringe paranoia. Gays as spreaders of disease? Proof..well...none. And 'confuse' children? You mean by loving and caring for them. Yeah, I can see if you're a right winger and think children (along with women) are slaves, that is not god's will

        February 28, 2012 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
      • pntherpaw86

        I'm curious what makes you think these gentlemen have HIV or other diseases? Please point out what sentence of the article led you to specifically learn those facts.

        February 28, 2012 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
    • Gman

      Can I help you pack?

      February 28, 2012 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
  75. bob

    VA, like IN, is now run by religious fanatics determined to control the middle class in the name of god. It's amazing what people will vote for. All I can say is there's no difference between the Taliban and America's Christian right at this point. I'm not sure why people in these states (along with the typically insane states like TX, OK, etc) believe that destroying people's rights bring them closer to god.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
    • allen

      Really? Wow, just three years ago it was a state that was in the democrats pocket, voting as a state for Obama...and now your "amazed what people will vote for".

      February 28, 2012 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Yeah seems like the temporary sanity they exhibited a few years ago has flown the coop and now the Taliban has taken over. Sorry dude. Facts are facts

        February 28, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  76. Sedona_dog

    These two young boys are truly blessed to have a loving and stable home with two great dad's who love them. Anyone who has a problem with this is either a bigot or ignorant or a hate teaching christian. I am gay and everyone needs to remember the bible teaches us that God loves everyone not just straight people. Being gay is not a choice.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
  77. Joe_80

    The issue is weather a private adoption agency that is operated by a religous orginization can use it's beleifs to turn away applicants that do not fit the morals of the orginization.
    The state is not taking adopted to children from this family, and it is not denying adoptions to gay families.
    If you don't like it or agree with it, you can always start your own adoption agency catering to the gay community.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Joe_80

      *whether

      February 28, 2012 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
    • beth

      Sure, they could start their own agency that caters to the gay community, but if the state law requires a couple to be legally married to adopt as a couple, then the state law would still inhibit couples from adopting since marriage between gay people is not recognized as legal in the state.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe_80

        the bill doesn't require you to be married to adopt

        February 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt in Ohio

      Why should a private agency who is accepting state funds be able to discriminate? If you take state funds, you should follow the law – the law should not follow your doctrine. If you don't like the law, then don't take state funds and serve only the people you wish. I have no problem with a private agency discriminating as long as they don't recieve state funds to do so. This is not about religious rights.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
      • Joe_80

        Matt,
        I believe this has everything to do with religious rights. Many of the children placed with the faith based adoption agencies are there because their birth parents want them to be adopted by those that have similar religious beliefs. Whether they receive state funds or not, many of these orginisations will still be exist, and they have the right to follow the tennents of their faith. Their are still many more agencies in the state that are public agencies that will provide adoption services to the community.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ozymandias71

        Joe_80:

        If a faith-based organization wishes to discriminate against a group of people, it cannot do so while getting tax income *from* that same group of people. The concept of 'taxation without representation' certainly applies here.

        February 28, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Al

    >>But Virginia is now prepared to ignore us – and hundreds of loving couples >> Decades ago, the Loving couple was denied by Virginia. History repeats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia

    February 28, 2012 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
  79. Bill, Bloomington Il

    You didnt adopt children to make a political statement? But you moved to a hostile state and that sounds like a political statement. i guess if I were to move to another state, I would research the laws and find out if I really wanted to move. Common sense should have prevailed and didnt.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Shannon

      Weird. I didn't catch "the gay" from my lesbian sister. Maybe she was, y'know...born that way?

      February 28, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
      • Shannon

        Odd – I keep getting shunted to the wrong discussion threads.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • JeffreyRO5

      Did you read the article, or just find out they were gay and had to write something negative about them? When they moved to Virginia, as socially backward as it is generally, there was no legislation denying gays and lesbians the right to adopt. Although Virginia is happy to run its government on religionist thinking, it wasn't this bad even two years ago. I'm sure newcomers, straight or gay, to Virginia are often shocked at how theocratic the state's government is.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
  80. Jacquie

    You live where you are a non- person, and if you vote Republican then you are voting for your rights to be further diminished.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:08 am | Report abuse |
    • urthlvr

      This is something that always boggles my mind. Why people, like the couple in the article, continue to vote for their own disenfranchisement! I have the same argument in Kansas (where I live) that the Republicans are not interested in the family farmer, or education, or anything else except for making a buck for the select few. You want to live in a place where you won't be ignored as a couple and family? Then vote for those people who acknowledge you have that right! (HINT- it isn't Republicans!)

      February 28, 2012 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
      • Suzanne

        There are gay Republicans and racist Democrats.

        The Republican and Democratic parties relate to more than just some social issues. This gay couple may think gays deserve equal rights, but they might also believe that the trickle-down method works, big businesses need to be protected, taxes are bad, prayer should be put back in public schools, abortion is wrong, etc. They might disagree with Democrats on economic policies, secular education, right to choose, etc.

        Plus it's also important to point out that not all Republicans are against gay marriage, so they might support those Republicans that are socially moderate (but economically and politically conservative).

        February 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  81. NClaw441

    To disagree with gay adoption is not to hate. People can have different points of view, but that does not mean that either side hates the other. These sorts of inflamed statements do nothing to further legitimate discussion, from either the left or the right.

    February 28, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
    • bob

      People like you and Maggie Gallagher keep saying that being anti-gay is not bigoted. But you never explain why. If you replaced the term 'gay' with "Catholic", would the things you believe be seen as bigoted? I bet they would.

      It's a fact; being anti-gay is bigotry. Experience in states like MA show us there are NO deleterious social consequences to gay families. None. All the hysteria of the Christian right is tripe. But you simply don't accept the EVIDENCE, preferring your own failed beliefs to logic. THAT is why it's bigotry!

      February 28, 2012 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
      • cardcreek

        seeing the words "hate" and "bigot" and "molestor", etc strewn about like carnage on a battlefield. this is how we deal with difficult issues. if i demean the other person, then their viewpoint is not valid.

        can anybody have a serious dialogue without resorting to labeling and sound bites?

        bob, your logic is illogical – a=c onl if a=b and b=c. you connect dots that are not connected.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Gee. I discuss evidence. You discuss...well, nothing. I gave a factual reference: MA has gay marriage. Where is the social harm. If there is NONE...and you did not even address then, then opposition is bigotry, isn't it? Sorry you don't like being boiled in your own juices.

        February 28, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • pntherpaw86

      Funny how if I were to disagree with blacks being able to adopt how quickly I'd be called a racist

      February 28, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  82. Phil

    Move back to California if you don't like the laws where you live.

    February 28, 2012 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Connie

      Grow up!

      February 28, 2012 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
    • scotty501

      Phil I bet you are a Christian..".the greatest of these is love"

      February 28, 2012 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
  83. MGinOhio

    Gee...a family that is active in school, church and the community, where the kids are both honor students, where the parents are encouraging participation in athletics and church life, and where the parents are providing well for them all...gee, sounds like a model household. Congratulations to them!!

    Question: Daniel and James, could you write a book and tell us what you're secrets are so we can copy your success?

    February 28, 2012 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
  84. JockguyGA

    I know this couple well. I went to church with them in DC. You haters, whether you like it or not we are born this way.
    I am a Christian I just happened to be gay.

    February 28, 2012 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Booshieone

      This has got to stop. It should not matter that this couple is gay. They look like loving parents, and let's face it. They have stepped up to the plate and done what most of us should do. I applaud them, and every person like them. These children look happy and well cared for, because after all that is this couples mission and what really matters. I just don't understand some folks hatred and misery. It does not make them less human or compassionate, just because they are gay.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  85. Christian

    Such a great perspective by parents who just want to raise two kids as best they can.

    February 28, 2012 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
  86. Anne

    Well, yeah - this is a conservative political cause. What are you? "Log Cabin Republicans"? Pathetic. You need to wipe the dust off your feet from the conservatives. Show some self-respect and get away from those people!

    February 28, 2012 at 8:17 am | Report abuse |
  87. Yepyep6598

    Gay men always adopt little boys more than likely they are molesting them and the law is legalizing it.

    February 28, 2012 at 3:36 am | Report abuse |
    • pntherpaw86

      Molest your own son much?

      February 28, 2012 at 8:46 am | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        @pntherpaw86 who touched you in the wrong places was it your daddy,uncle, or a family friend you are so full anger and bitterness you know you can get help.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • greydovie

      So, exactly how many children have you adopted? Just curious. I am always stunned by bigots who are all so sanctimoneous about who should be able to adopt children. Course they never have adopted children and do nothing to improve the lot of these children. They aren't going to lift a finger and really don't care how these kids suffer but feel they should have the right to dictate who should be allowed to help them?

      February 28, 2012 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
      • worldgonemad

        Adopting kids is nice. Perhaps had Hitler done that, he'd be "your hero" too. Afterall, he'd be nice enought to adopt kids. I guess you'd be ok with child molesters adopting kids, so long as they "treat them nice' and share their abundance of wealth with them.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        @greydovie Im not a christian you see there are many who are not that dont agree with your lifestyle. my thing is this no matter how many laws of the land are implemented giving legal status to your abhorant behavior the law cannot legislate nor can it implement a law to change my personal belief or opinion to force me to accept what is not acceptable in the eyes of God. I may not be a christian but I do believe in His Words, Now, your group brought your bedroom into the public it's no longer private it's public accept the criticism. If you dont like what i say or those like me GTFO there are many ports of exit and you are free to leave. You talk about seperation of church and state the Goverment has erased that line so prepare for the war of right verses wrong and prepare the adjectives that will be thrown at gays. You want a war you GOT ONE.

        February 28, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cedar Rapids

        Hey yepyep....
        ". If you dont like what i say or those like me GTFO there are many ports of exit and you are free to leave"..
        ....back at ya.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        @Cedar Rapids there, there, my friend it seems like you couldnt come up with something original just like a white liberal your kind never do. Liberals remind me of the Borg on Stark Trek you all think as an collective because no one is allowed to think for themselves, I tell you what you can do go find your boylover and you two can play games inside each other that should keep you out of site and out of mind for some hours. This will spare the world for a moment of peace, can you do that for me? Now hurry along.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Don'tcha LOVE the oxymorons...and the morons...in conservatism? This guy is too stupid to realize he criticized groupthink AND insisted that there's only ONE way to love another person! Ah, being conservative means never having to say 'I had an original thought'.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • worldgonemad

      You are so right. Political correctness run amuck. NOBODY is born gay. NOBODY.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:07 am | Report abuse |
      • Johny B True

        So, when did YOU make the decision to be "straight?" I guess you probably tried out guys and girls and decided you preferred kissing girls to guys. Right? So, when you were kissing guys and trying to make up your mind, how old were you?

        February 28, 2012 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Cedar Rapids

        yeah, thats right, they just chose to be gay? so by that logic you are saying that if you wanted to be gay you could be right?

        February 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • jimmy carducci

        So you were born straight? Ever considered becoming gay? Since it IS a choice. Right?

        February 28, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • scotty501

      that is factually incorrect. the vast majority of molesters are straight which is why the vast majority of victims are female

      February 28, 2012 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Johny B True

      Do you speak from your personal experience as an abusive parent to adopted children?

      February 28, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
    • navehm

      Where is your proof?

      February 28, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      Of all the ludicrous, ridiculous and downright stupid things said by conservatives, you have just won the prize fo the most unabashadly retarded. Do you assume straight men who adopt a daughter are molesting them? Please tell us you were just making a terrible joke.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Michelle

      I'm a straight female, if I adopted a little boy would you assume it was for the purpose of molesting him?

      February 28, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
  88. POWER OF THE TOUNGE! YOUR WORDS

    BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH ON OTHER PEOPLE YOU MIGHT GET IT YOURSELF! MAYBE YOUR MIND SHOULDNT BE UNDER PEOPLES SHEETS TRY UTILIZING THEM THOUGHTS TOWARDS YOUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE! BAM YOUR NOSEY PROBLEM SOLVED. AND BY THE WAY JUDGE NOT AND THOU SHALL NOT BE JUDGED.

    February 28, 2012 at 2:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      and maybe you shouldnt use the law to force your depravity on everybody else. Remember this what you do behind close doors is your business, but when you bring your bedroom into the public it becomes my business.

      February 28, 2012 at 3:54 am | Report abuse |
      • Baby-Eating Liberal

        Translation: seeing two gay men kiss awakens powerful feelings that I have long hidden, and I don't like it when that happens.

        February 28, 2012 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
      • gTy

        Funny – I read the article, and I didn't see anywhere where it described what this couple does behind closed doors. The fact that you are thinking about what they do behind closed doors says more about you than it does them/

        February 28, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        @gTy yawn! can you all, meaning white liberals, come up with something different to say beside the obvious stement rearranged. YAAAAAWN! AGAIN! Im getting sleepy I want to wake up

        February 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      @BabyEatingLiberal
      Yawn! you people use that same old line on heteros find another one. Yawn again!

      February 28, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Baby-Eating Liberal

        Straight, married, agnostic. Just FYI. Should help you hurl your insults with a little more accuracy.
        Also, I prefer when my trolls punctuate.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • gTy

        Maybe he can't punctuate because he is so tired. YAWN!

        February 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      Punctuate for what I tell you what just imagine Im texting you on your smartphone in short form and you should be able to handle that. Agree

      February 28, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
  89. GWHAMER

    There seems to be alot of anger over States Rights, really it's why our country is set up the way it is. I, being from Virginia like things in my life a certain way and I don't want to live like the people on the west coast, it's why I vote on given issues. Some States allow people walk around town with guns on their hips ??? The Wild, Wild West was a TV show and not for everybody, however the idea does get it's support and if the people from an area support the idea it makes me concerned a family against guns would move there. I don't buy it the children's idea to move across the country, people make "responsible" choices every day with children in hand, how well thought out was this one?

    February 28, 2012 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
    • pntherpaw86

      Guess they thought this country had progressed beyond singling out minorities for discrimination. Whoops, guess they were wrong! First Virginia wants to rape women with a probe and now they want to relegate gay people as second class citizens. Bravo all you bigots!

      February 28, 2012 at 8:45 am | Report abuse |
      • Phil

        If the shoe fits.........

        February 28, 2012 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        @pntherpaw86
        You mean we refuse to sink in the sewer with you I dont like the smell of s h y t on me.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Ozymandias71

    Daniel and James, behold the true agenda of the GOP. They will lie about your ability to be good parents. They will demonize you to anyone who will listen. They will ignore any evidence that contradicts their ideology. And yes, they will go to absolutely any length to score points with the 'I-hate-Gays-because-my-Bible-says-so' crowd.

    February 28, 2012 at 12:25 am | Report abuse |
  91. ashley b

    You

    February 27, 2012 at 11:52 pm | Report abuse |
  92. rukwazy

    Anderson cooper is gay and a lot of people in the usa really like him. Why doesn't he do a special on The Other Team?
    I think anderson is a very good reporter, by the way, I think hot lesbians should be protected. lol

    February 27, 2012 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • pntherpaw86

      Agreed! I wish Anderson would speak up more on issues like this, but I guess he likes to stay as unbiased as possible. I loved at one of the CNN debates that he seemingly refused to interview Santorum because they cut away to another reporter to give that interview!

      February 28, 2012 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
  93. ls

    Perhaps if these two men didn't contribute to conservative causes they wouldn't be asking why their family's "existence is about to be denied."

    Sounds like they are enabling the very people who disapprove of them.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • JBR

      But what if they are interested in keeping all of their other rights and their hard earned money? They aren't going to do that by voting for Democrats.

      February 28, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        GOP economics led to the greatest disaster since 1929 AND we had to bail out their rich friends. Then they blame it on democrats.

        Dontcha love the short memories of the right wing?

        February 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • JBR

        bob, the greatest disaster since the one FDR prolonged was caused primarily by Democrats mandating insane lending policies for housing. The debt crisis Obama is doing his best to worsen is going to make both of those disasters pale by comparison.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Gee. PT Barnum was right. There IS one of you born every minute. The CRA had NOTHING...repeat NOTHING to do with the housing crunch. It was DEREGULATION OF FINANCIAL MARKETS that crashed our economy. Wall Street went from being 20% of GDP to 40% between 1997 and 2007. Collateralized Debt Obligations went from being 320 BILLION to SIXTY TWO TRILLION (more than the entire GDP of the earth) in that same time.

        So stop with the diaper dressings. It's CONSERVATIVISM with its f undamentalist faith in unregulated capitalism that's the problem. The numbers are there for you to look at.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • JBR

        Typical of the left. Create a problem, then use the problem to justify more control. Crash the housing market, then argue for more control of the financial sector. The repackaging of bad loans was a self-defense measure by companies to try to save themselves from the Democrat mandated lending policies that forced them to make the bad loans in the first place. None of it would have happened without the failed policies of the left. You make a big mess, then argue for the power to make an even bigger mess.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Ah, the ol' right wing 2 step. First destroy the economy THEN lie about how it happened. Did lending policies hurt the economy?

        No. No they didn't. Of the 25 largest mortgage companies that went bankrupt

        one...precisely one...was subject to the CRA. BUT right wing deregulation of the financial markets resulted in Wall Street going from being 20% to being 40% of GDP in ten years between 1997 and 2007. Years generally when the GOP controlled BOTH houses of Congress AND the White House.

        So the next time some right wing idiot tries to blame liberals for their mess, just remind them that George W wasn't a liberal.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
  94. hamsta

    @ truth hurts just make sure you never go to prison.bubba will prove you wrong when he turns you into a b?tch.

    February 27, 2012 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Truck IT UP

    Now y`all need ta grow up why cant a couple help kids that needed help gay or not they must have built a good family the boys are doing ok they can help whomever they like

    February 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Connie

    After reading this essay, the phrase "We are actively in conservative political causes" is hard to fathom.

    February 27, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eliza

      Connie, while I understand where you are coming from, it is unfair to assume that "conservative political views" must necessarily encompass the broad spectrum of radical right social and fiscal conservative policies. The republican party now is a mockery of what it once, but that does not mean we must consider all conservatives worthy of mockery. I say this as a liberal democrat. There is a lot more to being a "conservative" than the buffoonery paraded around in recent years, and indeed one need not follow said idiocy to be a conservative.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  97. Don

    Total and complete sickos, what a stench this is becoming in this country, this makes me sick......... ............wait I have to puke.

    February 27, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jen B

      Me too, but then I switched the channel away from that TV evangelist service and I instantly felt better. Maybe you should that as well.

      February 27, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don

        A boar marrying a bull that is what I meant In case you didn't catch on.

        February 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Leanard G

        Help?? How ???? He He hE This whole thing pathetic.

        February 27, 2012 at 11:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        Turning away from the TRUTH, isnt that what GAYS do?

        February 28, 2012 at 3:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Tired of Bigots

      I am so tired of the hatred and bigotry you and others like you spout. Please go spout it somewhere else!

      February 28, 2012 at 11:41 am | Report abuse |
  98. CW

    Why not have there own?

    February 27, 2012 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jen B

      Why create more, when there are plenty out there that don't already have good homes?

      February 27, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Durrr

      I assume you mean "their own"... but I won't go there.

      February 28, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michelle

      I'm a straight female in a loving relationship with a man I love.

      Even though we have the parts to 'have our own' we plan on adopting. Why bring a new life into this world when there are already MILLIONS of children in the world who need caring homes and loving parents?

      February 28, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  99. LNG

    This is a wonderful story, and I think more gay couples with adopted children should come forward and share their stories of happiness. The more people realize that these gay couples are doing such a great thing by adopting unwanted children, the better and more wholesome, yes- wholesome! our society will be. Kudos and best of luck to Daniel, James and family

    February 27, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Yepyep6598

      you alls delusional society

      February 28, 2012 at 3:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Baby-Eating Liberal

        Grr, Angry Troll is angry!

        February 28, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  100. Cashun Please

    Whats the odds of those two boys growing up and being gay??? And no one see's a problem with this???

    February 27, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • cmxsmitty

      No greater than the odds of someone growing up gay being raised by straight parents. Don't be ignorant.

      February 27, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth Hurts

      You can't "catch gay," nor can you be indoctrinated. This is one of the weird dogmas from the conservatives – somehow if you allow your kids to see gay people, they will say, "hey I want to be gay too." This kids are far better off with two loving parents, then in some state run home or even worse, growing up on the streets/

      February 27, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Gman

        Haven't you heard the old saying, "children live what they learn, chlidren learn what they live"? I would call that a form of indoctrination.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cedar Rapids

        sorry but you dont 'learn' gay.

        February 28, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ozymandias71

      Scream louder! Add more question marks! Flail your arms around!

      Of course you'd rather those two kids be trapped 'in the system' rather than being adopted by a loving couple who happens to be Gay, right? Way to 'think of the children!' /eyeroll

      February 28, 2012 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
    • pntherpaw86

      Oh, I see what you did there ... you're furthering the unfounded belief that gay people choose to be that way! My aren't you clever. Well shucks, if only that were true, then you and I could have a real fun time 😉

      February 28, 2012 at 8:53 am | Report abuse |
    • olga79

      Much better to grow up gay than be a bigot!

      February 28, 2012 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
      • Yepyep6598

        not in the middleeast

        February 28, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Missy

      So, you're saying that if you were raised by gay parents, you would be gay now? Interesting.

      February 28, 2012 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        Walter Schumm of Kansas State University says it is a fact.

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20642872

        February 28, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob

        Did you read the abstract for your own reference? It has an error bar of almost 300% with no p value stated. It's useless.

        February 28, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill the Cat

        Bob,

        No it does not say any such thing!

        February 28, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • f

      The older one is already gay. Look at that face.

      February 28, 2012 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
      • maggie

        Wow. Ugly stuff. have you looked in the mirror lately? You might see something even uglier. Or then again, it might just be that dumb quizzical look that comes with people who haven't a clue.

        February 28, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ray

        WOW! Where did you learn this special skill – Sunday school perhaps?

        February 28, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mirsh

        The only comment your pitiful mind can come up with is an insult to a child.

        Big man, aren't ya?

        February 28, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
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