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Hispanics spell out why labels don't fit
April 4th, 2012
12:01 AM ET

Hispanics spell out why labels don't fit

By Mariano Castillo and Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN) - Public debate is raging over how to describe George Zimmerman, the man who admitted shooting unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin. Is he Hispanic? Or white? Or both? Should his identity even be raised in the news?

Amid the whirlwind of controversy comes a new survey about why the label "Hispanic" doesn't always fit those it attempts to describe.

A majority of Hispanics or Latinos don't fully embrace those terms; instead, they most often identify themselves by their family's country of origin, said a Pew Hispanic Center study released Wednesday.

The report used the two terms Hispanic and Latino interchangeably, but Latino is often preferred by many because it is more inclusive, said Allert Brown-Gort, associate director of the Institute for Latino Studies at Notre Dame University. Latino includes everyone from Latin America while Hispanic - descended from a Spanish-speaking land or culture - may not.

It has been almost four decades since Hispanic and Latino surfaced in the cultural language of the United States. The federal government mandated them to categorize Americans who traced their roots to Spanish-speaking countries.

But the Pew survey found that only 24% of Hispanics prefer a pan-ethnic label like Hispanic or Latino. A majority - 51% - said they use national identity.

Carmen George, a business owner in Marietta, Georgia, who emigrated from Mexico 26 years ago, accepts the usage of "Hispanic." But she doesn't like it.

"I do not consider myself Hispanic," she said, explaining that the term does not exist where she's from.

"In Mexico, there are no Hispanics. In the Dominican Republic, there are no Hispanics. In Chile, there are no Hispanics. In Mexico, there are Mexicans; in the Dominican Republic, Dominicans; and in Chile, Chileans," she said.

George is among the 51% of Latinos who, when filling out official forms that ask about race, answer "other."

She has almost lived equal amounts of time in Mexico and the United States and feels a strong loyalty to both, she said.

The Pew survey found that 95% of Hispanics found it very important or somewhat important for future generations to be able to speak Spanish.

George's business, De Colors Spanish Bookstore, offers Spanish classes to all ages, though she has a different reason for advocating Spanish. She teaches Spanish for the intellectual benefits of speaking two languages more than for cultural purposes, she said.

Of the 1,220 Latino adults surveyed in all 50 states and Washington, D.C., 82% said they speak Spanish. Language was one of their strong shared connections.

Culture, on the other hand, was not.

By a ratio of more than two-to-one (69% versus 29%), those surveyed said Latinos in the United States have many different cultures rather than a common culture.

"It took me 10 years to understand that I was Hispanic," said Brown-Gort, who grew up in Mexico and didn't understand the U.S. categorization.

"The reality is we as human beings have multiple identities," he said.

Sometimes Brown-Gort identifies himself as Latino. Other times, the native Mexican who has lived in Indiana for 13 years says he's a Hoosier. When he travels abroad, he might call himself an American.

The U.S. Census Bureau introduced the question about Hispanic origin in 1970. A version of it has been asked ever since, and the responses are based on an individual's self-identification.

The latest census in 2010 counted 50 million of America's 300 million people as Hispanic. Mexicans are the largest group, at almost 21 million people, followed by Puerto Ricans with nearly 5 million and Cubans with more than 1 million.

About half of those in the Pew poll considered themselves to be very different from the typical American. Only 21% said they use the term American most often to describe their identity.

U.S.-born Hispanics expressed a stronger sense of affinity with other Americans than with immigrant Hispanics, a trait that is perhaps true of all ethnic groups.

Questions of identity are most salient in regions near the U.S.-Mexico border, where two cultures, languages and customs blend.

In the border city of Laredo, Texas, a passerby or drive-thru operator is more likely to greet a stranger in Spanish than English.

Border residents here don't equivocate when it comes to how they identify themselves, said Xochitl Mora, a Laredo resident who works for the city.

She didn't grow up in Laredo and prefers to identify as a Mexican-American, "but most around here say just Mexican."

"Here it's different, because people identify absolutely with their Mexican roots," she said.

But most are very proud to be American, too.

The city holds one of the largest and most festive Washington's Birthday celebrations in the country.

"It's a very interesting dynamic because people here almost have two psyches - their Mexican half and their American half," Mora said.

As for Zimmerman's identity, many Americans said that his race was raised simply to frame the story of Trayvon Martin's shooting in racial terms. Zimmerman's mother is from Peru, and he identifies himself as Hispanic, which says nothing about a person's race, but he was at first labeled a white Hispanic by some media outlets, including CNN.

Most Hispanics in the Pew survey did not see themselves fitting into the standard racial categories used by the U.S. Census Bureau. Just more than half - 51% - of Latinos identified themselves as "some other race" or volunteered "Hispanic/Latino." Another 36% said they were white, and 3% said they were black.

"I've written about the thorny subjects of race and ethnicity for nearly a quarter century, and I rarely hear this term," columnist Ruben Navarrette Jr. wrote on CNN.com about referring to Zimmerman as a white Hispanic.

"We might have been able to see this coming given that there is no Hispanic race and Hispanics come in all colors."

soundoff (698 Responses)
  1. robert

    Anyone who was born on the American Continent is American. People often claim that if you’re not born in the United States you’re not American. Well Canada, United States, Mexico, Panama, Brazil, Venezuela Etc are all on the American Continent. North America, Central America, and South America

    April 4, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ricky

      American in this case is used as a nationality because the name of our country is United States of America. The term "United Statian" was never used in English, so for hundreds of years the demonym has been American. This is very similar to when people from the "Estados Unidos de Mexico" call themselves "Mexicanos."

      April 4, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Bill Ricard

    My heritage is something like French, Portuguese, Native American.. and who knows what else. I grew up in New Castle DE where every other house was a different ethnic family, that area of the USA is a true melting pot of diversity. Where you or your family came from, what religion or lack there of, what shade of color you are, if you are male or female, if you are gay or straight doesn't really matter. These are just descriptors like how tall you are or how much do you weigh. An example of some of the things that totally irk me are things like when I hear one black student saying to another black student "are you trying to act white?", or my other favorite is a group of Mexican nationals on one of the main streets of Tampa protesting some inequality and waving a huge Mexican flag. My favorite comes form when I taught high school. I never assigned seats, the students could sit in any seat they liked. All and I do mean all of the black students would group in either the left rear or right rear of the classroom. Not one would sit in the front row of desks. So, when someone says to me that I am afraid of diversity I find myself at a loss for a response.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  3. JQPublic

    "In Mexico, there are no Hispanics. In the Dominican Republic, there are no Hispanics. In Chile, there are no Hispanics. In Mexico, there are Mexicans; in the Dominican Republic, Dominicans; and in Chile, Chileans," she said.

    So, if in Mexico there are Mexicans, what does a Domican who moves there get called...Mexican, or Dominican-Mexican? It seems these countries only have one way to refer to their citizens (by the name given to citizens of that country), so why do they come here and hyphenate? Why don't they just call themselves American, rather than Mexican American or Dominican-American? Is this a double standard? Well, when it comes to issues of race and nationality in this country, that's not surprising. Words that some can use, but are "verboten" for others to use, etc.

    I like the idea one commenter stated, "human being" is how they refer to themselves on census forms. Now, if we could all just realize that we ALL fit into THAT categorization, maybe we'd all get along a lot better. It's ok to be proud of differences, it is part of what makes us "unique", but to constantly emphasize them only invites divisiveness. Perhaps more focus on the traits we share, being more proud of those, and a little less emphasis/pride on the differences? As they say, "why can't we all just get along?"

    April 4, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ricky

      Well, in Argentina they have immigrants mostly from Bolivia and Paraguay, and some from China and other parts of the world (both legal and illegal). First generation immigrants are usually called by national origin (Bolivianos, Chinos, Chilenos), even if the have been naturalized and are now Argentinians. This is because most of them never lose completely their accents and/or are easy to spot because of their ethnic look. The second generation though, are usually called Argentinians, without any type hyphenation. Although in the case of Chinese people, even the second and third generation might be called "chinos."

      April 4, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Juan Del Pueblo

    To clarify:

    – Hispanic refers to people(s) descendents from the Spanish that conquered most of the americas.
    – Latino refers to people(s) that speak a language of Latin roots; Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Vasque, Catalan are all Latin based languages.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sy2502

      I disagree. I am Italian and I would never identify myself as "Latina". I identify myself either as Italian or European. I have never in my life heard an Italian call himself "Latin" or "Latino".

      April 4, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • lisapizza1

      So people from Spain are Hispanic too? For some reason, they never seem to be included in the whole "hispanic" group.

      I have southern Italian roots and am very dark (for someone with Italian roots). I woudlnt say I'm Latino but I also wouldnt say I'm white. I say 'other'.

      So silly to classify people this way!

      April 4, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ricky

      @Sy2502 – During the last 100 years the term Latino has been used in the US to refer to Latin Americans, and during the last 40 years or so it has been seen in a negative connotation here in the US. If you are Latino or Latina in the US people expect you to be poor, not very educated, and have dark "mestizo" looks. Thus, it is not a surprise that Italians and French no longer want to use that term to identify themselves.
      However, Juan is not completely wrong because historically Europeans who spoke Romance languages identified themselves as Latinos. That is why Napoleon was the one who coined the phrase Latin America, when he was trying to conquer the ex-Spanish, French, and Portuguese colonies, to try to convince people from there that French, Spanish, Italians, Portuguese and people from these American countries had a common culture and that it made sense for all Latinos to be part of the same Latin empire.
      In the modern sense of the word, I wold say that Latinos include all Latin American Countries, while Hispanic only refers to Latin Americans who speak Spanish.

      April 4, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
  5. plush

    We just need to identify ourselves as Americans and realize we have a target on our backs and unless we come together, we will die alone wrapped in our labels.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  6. gavilansalvaje

    We are all Americans. There is no reason to have hyphens other than to provide politicians with ready-made power bases, and to allow the pwoers-that-be to divide and rule us. We should ban the hyphen and just face the fact that we are all Americans! (This of course does not include people who are legal residents, tourists, foreign workers and illegal immigrants!)

    BAN THE HYPHEN NOW!!!

    April 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Chet

    Race should be dropped in reporting – period!
    It doesn't have anything to do with it until proven by a court of law!
    All it does is inflame the situation and continue to create racial tension!
    Report the news – don't create it!

    April 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Shuffler

    Clarification can be had by asking the white african in the white house. lol This story shows the so called news organizations are short on entertainment.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • vahellbilly

      Ye mean Mr. O' Bama

      April 4, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Galactus999999

    The stigma of over 11 million illegal aliens means that over one out of five Hispanics in the United States is a criminal and subject to deportation. If the Federal Government would just do their job, this would benefit the Hispanic population that are legally here.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
  10. dakota2000

    Its about religion more than Race

    Hispanic is an invented term... probably by protestant washington bureaucrats who see the world as "us" and 'them."

    Growing up Catholic in LA, you have lots of friends with names like Ruiz and Sanchez.. but you do not classify them as the "others" they are just friends.

    I notice that Protestants like to divide their churches along ethnic and racial lines. ("first african methodist church" just screams racism doesn't it? How could that make anyone feel welcome. Or the Korean Baptist church..... etc).

    Although I strongly disagree with the church on many social issues, at least Catholics, in my experience, do not divide people up.

    Only Protestant think that way.

    Note that there has always been a strong dislike of people of Catholic Origin: The Irish Catholics, Italians, French, and now "hispanics" or "spanish" as there are sometimes known.(somehow the german catholics slipped by somehow).

    This is not about "ethnicity" it is a coded way of tracking the encroachment of "catholics" into america.

    April 4, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • vahellbilly

      You forgot the Mormon Church and the Nation of Islam. Don't see too much clultural-diversity in those two, which are not Christian-Protestant by any any stretch...

      April 4, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • dakota2000

        Islam, in general, sees all mean as bothers... even if there are perverse offshoots like the nation of islam.

        Mormons... I won't address that because I don't want to ignite a flame war...

        April 4, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
  11. JFritz

    There is only one race–human.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • vahellbilly

      One race... With hundreds of fissures, decades and centuries old.

      April 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • gavilansalvaje

      Yes!

      April 4, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Kevin

    In lieu of using the term "hispanic," if I want to describe a brown skinned Spanish speaking person, I use the term "Mestizo." It's usually pretty clear what I mean when I do that.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Sakesesha

    Maybe the latinos should shut up and consider themselve Americans first. I would like them a whole lot better if they dropped the compulsion to separate themselves from everyone else with labels, language and resentment towards those of us who simply wish our common language that has bound us together through thick and thin be respected. I would never demand an adopted nation shift it's linguistic heritage towards my favor simply because I am from the same hemisphere. There is a profound lack of respect being extended to american culture, no matter what the skin color.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • mikeM

      This is especially true of people like Carmen George who says she feels a strong loyalty to both. It can't be both, it's one or another. When I became an American citizen, I understood that loyalty to the USA is what counts, not toward my country of origin. If there was going to be a war between the two, I would wear the US uniform.
      We no longer demand that loyalty.

      April 4, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
  14. ylju0628

    I have a hard time answering the question "what are you?" since I'm 5th generation American, but my roots are Spaniard, French, Irish, Native American, and Mexican. Since I live in Arizona it is assumed I'm Mexican but I can't speak a word of spanish and wasn't brought up with that culture. Ehh I don't know lol, I guess I'm an American mutt??

    April 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carla

      Yup, woof, woof. We should all bark our American "muttness" in unison.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kevin

      Most Latin American hispanics are mutts too, though they like to pretend otherwise. They're a mixture of amerindians and Spaniards.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • ylju0628

        Yup I know I'm a mutt. I wouldn't say I'm one thing over another. I'm a US Army soldier too so being American takes precedence over everything else.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Peter Trainor

        That is no so. Argentina with 40 Million folks is whiter , % wise, than the USA. Most latin nations are white, then mestizos, blacks and asians. Also they are American since they were born in the American continent.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Damian

        That is true. Argentina was colonized by Spaniards and had massive immigration from Italy, Germany, England and Eastern Europe. They killed of their native American population just like they did in the US and were never a large importer of slaves. Basically the population is predominantly European in descent. The US has a large African American population and has had massive migration from Asia and from Latin American countries that maintain populations descended from the people that lived here prior to the European invasions. Argentina is whiter than the US.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ricky

        Well. I'm from Argentina (although now I consider myself an American) and yes, as far as I know, my great-grandparents were all European, from Italy, Germany, and Spain. However, I would not say Argentina is whiter because a lot of the Italians came from the South of Italy and Sicily, so they are pretty dark skinned. The same with Spanish people, my grandmother's family was from Andalusia, and she had black hair and olive skin. I guess we are mostly Caucasian though.

        April 4, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  15. hawaiiduude

    so what is "latin" about south america? Another european word? Latin? who makes this stuff up!?

    April 4, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Burbank

      Duh! "Latin" means someone who speaks a Latin-based language. I guess you didn't pay attention in school.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  16. WoodchuckJpe

    I think we should label ourselves by the color of our blood.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • hawaiiduude

      im a blueblooded bostonian

      April 4, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • WoodchuckJpe

        I know someone was going to say that.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Just_One

    If you have to put some other country's name in front of your hyphenated American then get the he!! out.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • we the people

      Technically every person in America came from another country moron, with the exception of American indians, I think..

      April 4, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • hawaiiduude

        and why are caucasian americans called white and blacks called african americans?

        And zimmerman is a jewish name not white. He should be called a hispanic-jew.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • Me

        No that would be ancestors came from another country.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve Jackson

        That is not necessarily true. Essentially EVERY's ancestors came from somewhere else. But generally the vast majority of American citizens today are multi generation American.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • dakota2000

        Actually, everyone "technically" came from Africa. So, there is no such thing as Hispanic, asian, european... that is just a fairy tail made up by the descendent of Africans.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Just_One

        I was born here, moron. My parents were born here, moron. My grandparents were born here, moron. I have an ancestor on my mother's side who came to the new world before there was a United States, moron. Hyperbole will not win you any arguements, moron. Forgo allegiance to foreign countries or get the he!! out. MORON!

        April 4, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ricky

        @ Just one – You and your family were all born in the town of Moron? I knew some people from there too.

        April 4, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • hawaiiduude

      canadians are in north america and mexicans in south america so they are americans as well be definition. I am a citizen of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. That would the the correct phrase.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Patrick

        Actually, Mexico is in North America

        April 4, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Just_One

        When Canadians travel to Europe does the nice concierge at the London Ritz say "OH, look more lovely Americans"? And if she did would you accept that or point out that, no, we are from Canada, eh.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • we the people

      No one cares where you came from MORON, we would rather YOU left, MORON..

      April 4, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Smoking reality

    Racism is a disease and a state of mind, I work with Hispanics of all shades who think they are better than each other depending on how light they are, Sadly Black hispanics hide behind the Hispanic label 7 they dont want to be called black, indians do the same, Asians the samething. Africans who are lighter thinks they are better & more important. God looks at all of you & shakes his head. You can tell from even the comments here how a lot of hispanics are desperate to be white.. Pooleezz give me a breaK!!!

    April 4, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • we the people

      Maybe the label making will stop when every race in America refers to themselves as Americans, and stop looking for ways to distinguish themselves from all those inferior white people who are to blame for every problem on the planet. Hey I know, how about a man shot a boy, news at 11?

      April 4, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • bryanfred

      I actually find this poll refreshing – it certainly seems to refute the claim that Hispanics consider themselves one unified bloc, and more so that they feel they need some sort of special protections if those one generation removed from immigration hesitate to describe themselves in terms of ethnicity. The race-baiters will be disappointed to hear that assimilation into American culture is alive and well.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Luis Benito

      Apparently, this going to shock the heck out of you – but Hispanic is an ethnic term, not a racial one. Where I was born, Cuba, there are whites, blacks and mulatos, mixed race. So, Hispanics can be of any race including mixed Native American that is called mestizo in Mexico.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve Jackson

      Indian as in the country are Asians not black

      Indians as in native americas are categorized as Native American/Alaska Native not black or white

      April 4, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Anne

    Latino / Hispanic is an ethnic group, and not a race...go travel to Argentina or Uruguay and you will see that most of people there are white, born in LA but European descendants. You also have European descendants in Mexico and all over LA. Same happens with Black people from LA.
    Now I also see a differentce in culture between the people from South America and Central America.
    The Census form has the option to mark Latino and White, Latino and Black, and so on.
    Why does USA care so much about race BTW?

    April 4, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
  20. boohowdy

    balkanization should be coming soon.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Limbaugh is a liberal

    As we all know, the ONLY form of self-defense for ANY threat is to shoot somebody dead... And, of course, we all have a right to pre-empt all perceived threat, real or imagined, with deadly force.
    Self-defense=shoot the other dead. There is no other form of self-defense. Ever.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Pale Progressive

    You MUST pick a pigeonhole! Decide either "Latino" or "Hispanic", your federal government has spoken!

    April 4, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Lee S

    My family came from Ireland and Germany, but I am an American. Thats it.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Luis Benito

    II was born in Cuba and brought here when I was six months old in '46. My wife of forty-four years was born in Puerto Rico and brought here when she was four in '51. Our three children were born in Miami, Pittsburgh and Houston, and neither one thinks of himself or herself as being anything other than an American of Cuban and Puerto Rican descent. While my wife and I are completely fluent in Spanish, none of our children speak it to any degree of fluency. Does this keep me awake at nights? No. They are well–adjusted American citizens who have served in the armed forces, vote, are degreed and rear their children to be good citizens.

    When required to identify my ethnicity, I say Hispanic because Latino is a term created by the Left because it helps create a minority that will be forever alienated from the rest of Americans. I will not stereotype myself this way. As Lee Greenwood composed and wrote: “And I’m glad to be an American, where at least I know I’m free.”

    April 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • TONY

      Luis, I appreciate your comment.. However, please note, that racial / ethnic information is almost always asked for VOLUNTARILY. You can simply opt out of answering those questions 90%+ of the time. (I HIGHLY suggest everone simply stop filling out those sections!) The reason the racial / ethnic questions are ever even asked for, is to moderate for 'Affirmative Action' type reasons. Mostly people on the left want to categorize everyone so they can be sure they know who to pander to. God forbid the land of "equal opportunity" has any 'minorities' being held back without extra assistance that everyone else DOESN'T receive. It is total BS. "Equal opportunity" isn't equal if we all continue to play this shell game with racial profiling, and racial /ethnic questionnaires.

      April 4, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  25. dallaschris

    LULAC usually arrises during an hispanic/latino cause.... why are they not sounding off in defense of zimmerman's civil rights?

    April 4, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

      Zimmerman has civil rights? And what might those civil right be? The right to murder an innocent and unarmed young man?

      April 4, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • eally

        what happened to the right to a fair trial. you say he's guilty so he must be, right? i bet you say you should be richer? so you must have more money now? thats what i thought

        April 4, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Stella

    Why is this surprising? When people ask where my family is from I say the Netherlands. I would never generically refer to myself as Anglo. (In fact the only people who I hear use the term "Anglos" are Latinos.) Too much of the dialogue around this issue focuses on illegal immigrants but most Americans whose predecessors came from South and Central America are as American as anyone from anywhere and have lived here generations.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Peterr

    Central America used to be called Hispaniola. Therefore, that region and Mexico are Hispanics.
    South America was classified as Latin America. Therefore, people from that region are Latinos.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • jorgath

      Close, but incorrect. Hispaniola was, and still is, the Caribbean island on which modern-day Haiti and the Dominican Republic are located.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Damian

      First, Central America has never been called Hispaniola. Hispaniola was the island where Hernan Cortez set out from (modern day Haiti and the DR). Mexico was referred to as New Spain when it became a vicerolyalty. As for what is new South America that was the viceroyalty of Peru and eventually was also divided to include the viceroyalty of La Plata and of New Granada. The use of the word Latin America has its origins with the french when they wanted to block out British influences. Latin America referred to what had be Spanish America. You need to read more before you speak.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • JohnZ

      Sorry to burst a bubble Peter, .. The word Hispanic in America was coined in the 70s to "label" those non-Anglo / non African-Black individuals. It can be generally used for those that were under Spanish control during colonial times, but that would include North Africe / India / Mediterranean as well as Cental American. As Jorgath said

      April 4, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  28. ats621

    Americans.....All people born in the American Continent are Americans. I don't care if you were born in Canada or Chile or Mexico or Dominican Republic. All are Americans because the name of the continent where you were born is America. There is a misconception that people born in The United States if America are the only American people. When will this be corrected? If you were born is The United States of America, then you are a person from the United States of Amercia. If you were born in Venezuela, then you are Venezuelan but both are Americans.

    April 4, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ming

      You are correct but other countries call us Americans presumably because United States Americans was too much of a mouthful.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Carla

        No, Ming, other residents of this continent call us "Norte Americanos," or "North Americans." Only we call ourselves "Americans," in our arrogance. BTEW, America gets its name from an Italian, Amerigo Vespucci. Therefore, we should, more rightly, call ourselves "Western Italians."

        April 4, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ming

        No the British, along with all the other countries, referred to us as Americans when we were under British rule. It's not because Americans are arrogant and called themselves that. They were called that and the name stuck.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • lisapizza1

        Carla, if other countries call us americanos del norte, that's not quite correct either. There's Canada, Mexico, etc, estadounidense would be most correct.

        April 4, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Limbaugh is a liberal

    Tell me, what is the 'American' ETHNICITY, or race we want to keep excluding hispanics, blacks, asians, and anyone else from?

    April 4, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Sin1ster

    Let me make it clear:

    Hispanic: person that speaks spanish (regardless of race).

    Latin: A person from which main languace is of Latin descend (Italian, French, Portuguese, etc). (which is also regardless of race).

    So I think these two terms do a poor job at describing a race.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • dallaschris

      race does not necessarily describe ethnicity like hispanic/latino does. you can have a white hispanic like tony romo, jessica alba or marco rubio and a black hispanic like sammy sosa and david ortiz.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  31. nilla

    Unless you are a president from the other party. Then where you were born is irrelevant.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  32. mat

    What? No mention of NBC doctoring the audio on the 911 tapes to show a percieved racist element. No comments about the digitally enhanced photos showing abrasions on Zimmerman's head? This is a witch hunt by the left to try and rally the base before the election by proclaiming racism even though Zimmerman is a registered democrat. Now that they fear a division between blacks and hispanics (like it doesnt exist already and VERY deeply) they are trying to proclaim Zimmerman white and claim there is no hispanic miniority. Wether he is innocent or guilty is to be determined by the state of Florida, not the media, not black radicals and not self-loathing whites.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  33. glyder

    zimmerman is called white hispanic.obama is called black.both are mixed.the msm realizes the advantage.black to get elected,white/ easier to rally the sharpton,jackson sheep.typical progressive tactic.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  34. drod

    I am an American. As I child the only option on govenment forms was white or black. We were thrown in the white category like we didn't really matter and so the black numbers wouldn't seem so big. Later we were called chicanos, then mexican americans, hispanics, latinos. These labels are not created by people, they're created by governement for their own means and the media to sensationize stories. Lately I see a move to divide latinos to dilute their voting power. The Republicans are good at dividing people especially minorities. Minority voting power is growing and the biggest loser is the Republican Party for their past deeds and their continuing policies that continue to divide. As I said, I am a proud American and veteran that loves this country. My kids are Americans and their kids will be americans.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • glyder

      you failed to mention how the democratic progressive party divides people.oh well,i guess i'll join the black or hispanic caucus.typical of party hacks.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Matthew Kilburn

    I think this whole thing highlights another point:

    While Whites and Blacks may identify more by race, they lay full claim to being Americans. If you want to see the real problem here, it would probably be that such a large percentage of our population identifies itself primarily with the country of origin of their ancestors...rather than simply being an American belonging to a given group.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Tropical Dave S

    This article is irrelevant.
    Hispanic and Latino are being used to describe ethnicity in the Trayvon Martin murder;
    this is going off on a tangent discussion of nationality among members of an ethnic group.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • SimplyE

      Dave, I'm with you. The idea that there are no Hispanics in Latin American or Caribbean countries is ludicrous. Perhaps those 3 people interviewed were specifically from a small village or if they were asked in English, they misunderstood. I would dare the same question be asked to those educated in Latin America. The word Hispanic comes from the word Hispania, which was the Roman name for the Iberian Peninsula 1,500 years ago. The Spaniards gave Latin Americans that name about 600 years ago.

      The whole article is flawed. Read your history, first!!!

      April 4, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  37. ronincalifi

    By the way...the US government REQUIRES people label themselves for Affirmative Action Purposes.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  38. univofmissi24

    Should it even an issue as to what race he is?! If the media would have called him a hispanic to begin with, then this story probably would not even have made news.....

    April 4, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • FlickOff

      True, would just be another minority killing a minority. You'd never even read about it...people kill people, has nothing to do with race. But statistically has a lot to do with race.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Agnim

    Interesting how CNN continues to spin and focus on the sociopthic murderer being hispanic.
    CNN will tell us that sociopath's mother is from Peru.

    However, CNN in their diversion will not focus on the FATHER - JUDGE & JEW(?) of the sociopath!

    CNN continues to so the seeds of divisiveness among Blacks & Latinos, while SHIELDING THE ZIMMERMAN NAME & ZIMMERMAN STATUS, which are crucial in explaining why the sociopath, UNLIKE AVERAGE CITIZEN, could have committed battery on a police officer and have charges disappear into thin air.

    The impunity, which this sociopathic SON OF A JUDGE enjoys, EXCUSES, ENABLES & ENCOURAGES a repeated disrespect for those in law enforcement.

    After all, why heed a 'LOWLY DISPATCHER' to 'NOT STALK' an innocent citizen on the street, when the sociopath already committed battery on the police and with zero negative consequences?

    April 4, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wow

      Your post just wows me. Please wait until ALL the facts of the case are available before rushing to judgments.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • FlickOff

      And you know the charges were dropped because his father is a Judge for a fact? Please site your reference. You know he's a murderer for fact? Please site your reference.

      Reserve judgement until he is judged by a court of his peers.

      As far as I know he could well be a murderer, or that black kid could have been a gang banger? Who knows for a fact?

      April 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • tomben69

      still putting the facts in the spin cycle... why can't you make a point without labelling and name calling? Is is possible?

      April 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Minga

      Wait a second. Have you seen those tweets? Have you read the school district discipline report? Kid didn't deserve to die, but CLEARLY had NO respect for women, school , or authority. Is this how we are raising our kids today as acceptable? No read the police report. Did Zim wet the back of his shirt and injure the back of his own head? cmon.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • bryanfred

      The guy was a former magistrate judge who didn't know anyone (police, etc.) involved. The amount of leverage he would have had to cover up a murder is approximately zero.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  40. howard

    I am 16th generation American ... I too answer "other" on demographics questions ... because the questionaire doesn't offer me the choice of "American".

    April 4, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Finder

      I like Howard's reply. If you were born here or otherwise gained legal citizenship, your nationality (nation you are from) should be American. We have no Cuban-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Nigerian-Americans, or Spanish-speaking Americans–unless one is living here long term but not a legal citizen and even then they should be called Cuban, Mexican, or Nigerian (that would be their true nationality). When one says they're Cuban-American, what they're actually trying to say is, "I'm American and of Cuban ancestry." That's not answering the question, "What is your nationality?" It is, however, confusing the issue. Nobody should gain advantage or disadvantage because of their heritage....where their ancestors came from. If you are American and proud of it, pay your dues, show your allegiance, and rightly gain the benefits of citizenship. If not, then simply state your true nationality and live with it.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    They retain their ‘nationality’ because they have their own ser of prejudices. For example I know several people from Columbia and they look at Mexicans the same way we look at hillbillies.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ming

      No they like their own heritage. Italians and the British aren't overly fond of each other, but the British call themselves British and Italians call themselves Italians not because they are prejudiced but because it's their heritage, it's what they are.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe80

        ...ok..except the article is about American usage of the terms. If a Brit is in England, of course they call themselves British, the same with an Italian. The bigger point is only true Americans call themselves just that- American. If you use anything before American, you really dont belong here.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ming

        Most people don't put anything hyphened in front of American, it's the Gov and the Media that does it. Tell them to get out. The article is about how people describe themselves in terms of HERITAGE. People say my family was from Columbia, just like someone says my family was from Ireland. It has nothing to do with hyphens. AA do it more often because many of them don't know which country their ancestors were from.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Nuh

        It's Colombia.

        Joe-I've been here since I was 2. How are you going to tell me to go back to a country that I've visited a handful of times? I was born in Colombia. I am a U.S. Citizen, therefore I am American. Have a good day.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter Trainor

      Country is COLOMBIA. There isn't a nation call Columbia 🙂 And they are part of the American continent, South American, therefore they are also Americans.

      April 4, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  42. RLA

    There are latinos because the democratic party needs minorites to survive!

    April 4, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • History Bear

      Chill dude- without rednecks and white guys the republicans would be deader than the dinosaurs- and white guys will be a minority in about 2050.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • FlickOff

        well maybe once whites become a minority they will stop passing laws that discriminate against whites.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • nilla

        Sorry – I meant it's tough being part of the majority. And it is.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  43. USA#1

    If they were truly proud to be Americans then they would call themselves Americans instead of being a part Americans part something else, almost always from a failured culture, economics, and government.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe80

      ...if they're in America, it's only because they fled from 'home' to be here. So I thinks it's fair to say, things werent a roaring success back 'home'.... American's don't 'emigrate' to other countries...but the entire world comes to America....

      April 4, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  44. montyross

    yea the dude refers to himself as latino, but abroad an American, defiant at home yet far from home he wants American name recognition...

    April 4, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ming

      The terms Hispanic and Latino are not used outside the US.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ricky

      Those terms are only used in the US.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • dallaschris

        just curious... what are "hispanics/latinos" referred to as in canada?

        April 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  45. wnzmtc

    We're all Africans.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Phil in Oregon

      Yep, they're all Hispanic. And whether your roots are in Nigeria, Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda, you're black. And whether your ancestors are from France, England or Denmark you're white. Get over it. There are much more important things going on than sorting out which friggin color everybody is.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joyce

      Please all go back there!!

      April 4, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  46. juan

    I was born in cuba but came here 43 years ago,I am 6' blue eyes and sandy blond hair,,,,,I hate the term hispanic or even more latino,specially when someone looks at me and says...oh, you don't look hispanic.what I am trying to say is that we are all ( spanish speaking ) minorities within a greater minority.If you want to find out call a Mexican a Nicaraguan or a Puerto Rican a Cuban ,and you will get your ass set right,right on the spot....we are all different cultures and we a very proud of our hereditage, the only thing we have in common is that most of us speak spanish but at the end of the day we are all americans......and my heritage is Cuban American , not latino or hispanic.One more thing......the hispanic or latino vote?? .....what is that???......we are not single minded!!!!..........j-

    April 4, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      You are not American if you refer to yourself as "Cuban America" which is highly offensive! Either you embrace what America has provided you, or you don't. Reading your post, I can tell you do not respect this nation or its citizens.

      "There are no hyphenated Americans who are good Americans. The only man who is a good American is American and nothing else. We are a nation, not a country full of foreign nationals. We are a paople, not a polyglot boarding house" -Theodore Roosevelt

      April 4, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Peter Trainor

        Cuba is in America like the rest of Latin America. They are ALL AMERICANS!! Same as Canadians.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      ...and Juanito, don't ever call a Mexican a "Cuban"! I will set you ass straight right away my Spanish primo! It's about time you and sother have some respect for the people who have been here, working hard, for over 400 years. Thank you! We also are blonde blue-eyed, dark hair brown-eyed, black and everything in between.

      April 4, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Me

    Most Americans are not afraid of DIVERSITY.....most Americans are tired of NO ONE MOVING here and actually learning the language correctly.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ricky

      No one is moving here and learning the language correctly? Really? No even one person? Because I have met a lot of people who did. I moved here 10 years ago and I do just fine.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Jim970

    If they are so keen on their national origins, I suggest they go back for a long visit – like the rest of their lives.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Astrogal

    It's true about feeling a little mixed up. I was born in Cuba. But I came to the U.S. when I was just 1 year old and was raised in Miami, which as you may know has a very large Cuban-American population. Spanish is everywhere and for the uninspired you don't even technically need to even learn English as the Spanish-speaking community is so strong. So I always felt a little bit of both. I could never be considered technically American because I was not born here, yet I am in any other way because I lived here my whole life. I speak Spanish as well as English, and I love Cuban food and culture. But there are other things that I prefer to do as Americans do, such as listening to music, reading, and watching TV only in English, disassociating myself with the politics of Cuba in so far as being more open-minded towards the embargo, etc. I think people like me will always feel a bit of a mix, not 100% one culture nor the other. I guess we have the best of both worlds.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
  50. CAL USA

    The more things change the more they stay the same. Over a hundred years ago, President Teddy Roosevelt asked that we stop being "hyphenated Americans" . This was addressing the then current wave of immigrants from Italy, Germany, Ireland, etc. Last time I looked, the decendants of those folks only claim that heritage on one or two days a year, like St. Patrick's Day or Colombus Day. The moral of the story is – be patient. In one or two generations the offspring of the last arrivals will look and sound just as American as any of you. They will not speak the language of their parents (this is not a good thing, incidentally) marry someone from a different ethnicity, embrace football or basketball, hot dogs and apple pie. In short, they will be "Americans"... without the hyphen.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter Trainor

      And funny when Cristobal Colon, that was the name he was known then, never landed in the USA at all.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • impartial observer

        and Colon (Columbus) was also a Jew, albeit "converted". Let's add that into the ironic mix. So "Latino" threads back to an Italian Jew-convert to Catholicism; "America" was coined by an Italian navigator as someone else pointed out (Americo Vespucio).

        Hispanic is a socio-economic moniker: It really seeks to identify "underpriveledged minority of amerindian (brown skinned) origin. No wonder it only identifies non-urban Mexicans and a few other Central American immigrants to North America.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
  51. rms

    This is the trouble with labels of any sort. They are only dicriptors for some visible characteristic or percieved affiliation. They can be useful only for purposes of defining statistical parameters and do not come close to describing individuals. Maybe in terms of broadcasting an APB it helps to have a visual point of reference – but that is only as far as it goes. Like cloths one size does not fit all and I have always been offended by the census, job applications, etc. which ask for my race and or ethnicity – I usually decline to answer or simply put in other – and write down "Human Being."

    April 4, 2012 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
  52. lunar

    I AM FROM OUTER SPACE FROM MARS WHAT AM I ???? MARSANIC.....

    April 4, 2012 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • ronincalifi

      and you get inalienable rights.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
  53. What A Joke

    Whites call themselves Americans... Blacks prefer African American... Hispanics (that I've known) prefer Mexican American or Latin American etc... I almost never see a minority who doesn't want to be labeled with something Before-American. So all I can say is, minorities have less pride in America and that's why I respect them less.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Marta Paglianni

      Are you that stupid? Most Hispanics are no Mexicans. And they are white just like Cameron Diaz or Cristina Aguilera or Eddie Cibrian and none of them are Mexicans. Once you past Mexico the whiter Latin America gets LOL

      April 4, 2012 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Luis Reyes

        I'm sorry, but do you know anything about Latin America? There are more mestizos (mixed-people) than there are whites in Latin America? The only countries with a "white" majority are Argentina and Uruguay–Costa Rica and Chile are debatable. So you're comment about the more south you go the whiter Latin America gets is misinformed and simply ignorant. As for your assertion that most Latinos are not Mexicans, well, just take a look at the 2010 Census and you'll see that most Latinos in the United States are Mexican-America.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Craig

      Thats not entirely true bud. I know plenty of "white" people that identify themselves as German, Jewish, Irish, Polish, or Italian. With the exception of Italians, and Jews, the longer the family has been here the more apt to identify as "white". Disagree?? You only have to look at the aftermath of the 2006 World Cup when Italy won. There were celebrations all around New York, New Jersey and Florida by "white" Italians.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • bccream

      Where do you get your analysis from I have often seen many whites identifying themselves Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans etc. You may have some truth in your comment but mostly it depends upon the number of generations and current their ties to their origins.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • USA#1

      Exactly. If don't want to cut ties with the failed experiment called your motherland why come to the US? Besides, I don't trust people who quit on the country of their birth. Fix it. Don't run away. That way we only attract the weakest of the lot.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • nacho

        me wasnt born in the land of my mother, me born in Pennsylvania.... but me seriously thinking about relocating!

        April 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  54. lunar

    I AM FROM OUTER SPACE FROM MARS WHAT AM I ???? MARSANIC.....

    April 4, 2012 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
  55. CW

    The picture on this article shows the real issue here. Note how the American flag is slumped on the guy's shoulder while he holds the Mexican flag high. This type of disrespect is why this issue galls people.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
    • sickandtired

      its a piece of fabric, that cost .50 cents a yard..get over yourself

      April 4, 2012 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Marta Paglianni

      I agree with you. But keep in mind that MOST Hispanics are not Mexicans!! They are white. Argentina , a Hispanic nation, has 40 Million folks and 80% is white. They got zero blacks and few indians. So % wise is a lot more than the USA or any other nation outside of Europe. Food for thoughts.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Azarel

      well...if you're gonna try and be smart about this article...then notice that the Mexican flag is NOT held high but rather on the side. One flag is held off to the side while the other is worn proudly on the person. It is a matter of perspective, but your stupidity isnt.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • US Code Regarding the Flag

        You're not supposed to drap the flag over your shoulder as it is not a proper use of the U.S. flag...

        April 4, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • UrADmAsz

      What about shorts and underwear that are made with the pattern of US flag? Why don't you go protest to Hanes or Fruit of the Loom? Ya Dmbaz!

      April 4, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Latinos Label Themselves

    It seems to me that Latinos often label themselves as such, which kind of contradicts this Pew study (no shock there). Maybe individually they will identify with a nationality, but whenever its concerning an achievement, or a scholarship, or a media outlet its all "Latino" this and "Hispanic" or "Spanish-speaking" that. Even Sonya Sotomayor, a native-born US citizen, classified herself as a Latina. So if people don't like the labels why do they persist?
    Also, I have never met an immigrant or a Hispanic American that identifies mainly with their own culture ever show any interest or respect toward my Scottish or English heritage. I'm just a "white person" to them... so we all live with labels. Who cares.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
    • RG1

      That's because most of you don't celebrate your cultures. You actually think American is a race.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
      • The Decline

        Yo RG1 there is an American culture that everyone should be a part of. Its sad if you truly think ppl believe American is a race...pathetic

        April 4, 2012 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • oolala

      Not true, the entire Northeast describe themselves as Irish, Italian, Puerto Rican,Portuguese, etc...but there are other areas of the country with simpletons who need simple labels.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
  57. RG1

    Don't label me Mexican American if you're not going to label whites European Americans.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
  58. JF

    Many of the Hispanics I've ever met look more of a mix to me. Unless you're from Spain where they consider themselves white European, there's probably some admixture in your genes stretching back 500 years. I always wondered why Hispanics embrace the Spanish language but ignore the Native element, which is clearly evident in their appearance.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Marta Paglianni

      JF they dont "considered themselves" , they are just plain white. The whole world considers them white Europeans same as Brits or Germans.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Adriano Cataldi

        Marta:
        You are one of those with inferiority complex that prevent this world to evolve. This is what prevent your nation to be great country. I've been in Argentina and I saw more Indian looking people with whitish appearance than you you want to admit. Wake up and free yourself from that slavery.It is shameful to read what you say. Have a blesed day.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Astrogal

      Well that's because not all Hispanics have a Native element. Yes many Central and South Americans look "Native" because they are descended from the respective Native peoples of their region, or a mix of European and Native. But other Hispanics, such as myself, are descended from white Europeans (Spaniards) and do not have an element of the "Native look" in our appearance. My skin is fair but my eyes and hair are dark brown. I did have my DNA tested and it turns out I am 6% Asian due to ancestry from Natives which is interesting. Some are mixed but not all look Native.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
  59. The Decline

    This is ridiculous. These terms are meant to be generic. Am I supposed to ask immigrant what country they are from so I can call them by a more appropriate description of their heritage? Asinine. You think everyone from Europe likes being referred to as Europeans as opposed to say, French, Spanish, Italian? No, of course not. Sad sad little article

    April 4, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Ricky

      We don't use "Europeans" when we talk about European immigrants; we call them Italians, French, Irish, etc.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Micaela Mena Baker

    What can I say? I used to be a Mexican-American, then I became a Chicana, then a Hispanic. In the end , I see myself as an American. Funny thing, though, my kids see themselves as Hispanic. But they also know they are German, English, Irish and maybe something else we have yet to discover in our family tree. I love the fact that my family is, at rock bottom, wait for it...AMERICAN. Our different roots have given this country what is known as hybrid vigor. E Pluribus Unum ( one from many) is a great thing. It is not easy to be part of a stereotype, but ,hey, all the groups who came to this country lived through it and still survived to become American. I'm not saying we are perfect. We still have far to go. It's not so bad to beThursday's child.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
  61. What A Joke

    The point(s) most people are missing:
    – The media is a business
    – Businesses need to make money to thrive
    – Money is made easiest when controversy and/or outrage can be generated from the people
    – Profits > the truth and legitimacy of the press

    April 4, 2012 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  62. willy

    I can see why a group would not like to claim Zimmerman. If he won the Nobel piece prize we'd probably all claim he was the same race as we are.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
    • nacho

      Peruvians (in peru) are actively claiming zimmerman. Their media is a lot more sympathetic to his cause. Also, it should be noted that peruvians are the most racist of the latin americans (probably followed by argentinians). ie if you are dark enough, they will forbid you to enter a restaraunt/club etc. This of course is legal and acceptable.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
  63. MZHART

    an american citizen needs no other description...a non american committing crimes should have all descriptions as far as i am concerned...this is my opinion...

    April 4, 2012 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
    • sickandtired

      try to find an american citizen that did commit a crime without a label

      April 4, 2012 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
  64. sickandtired

    I don't see the issue, My father is puerto-rica, my mother is puerto rican, so therefore I must be puerto rican, no matter where I live at...unless I am travelling abroad..then I must be pakistani, since I look like them too...hey zimmerman was a pakistani hispanic...problem settled

    April 4, 2012 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
  65. i12bphil

    There's only 3 to 5 actual races, depending on what biology classes you took, and most people don't even know what they are. I'll give you some clues, though. They are not white, black, hispanic, jewish, asian or anything like that. Now, for your own education please look them up.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
    • MrApplesauce

      According to most geneticists, we all come from the same mother how ever many eons ago... so... all terms are just geographical and/or cosmetic terms anyways.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Disabled Veteran

    I'm half dominican and half hungarian. Both of my parents were born in the U.S.. My grandfather, father, and I were all in the U.S. Military. If you noticed... you can NOT BE "WHITE" and "HISPANIC" anymore. Go check your forms for new applicants and behind EVERY race it states "EXCEPT HISPANIC". You're not allowed to be black and hispanic, asian and hispanic, or anything else AND hispanic. The form is now singling out hispanics. The form to me is showing the racism.

    Show me an application, that I can select "AMERICAN". After all I wear the scars for the freedoms this country gets to enjoy. So, shouldn't I and ALL AMERICANS have the right to select American? Until then... Racism will not end, And definately not when the forms are singling out a specific race!!

    April 4, 2012 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
    • MZHART

      to our american vet...i support your opinion...i would like to have "american" added to the list on forms...of course, that might encourage others to check the box and screw up the whole system..."not hispanic" might be a way to get a more accurate count...i would like to know the reasoning of why this works for our government...

      April 4, 2012 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
    • mac

      Well said.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
    • oolala

      I know it's a made up ignorant label that didn't exist before. Many "Latinos" have now adopted the the term Anglos to describe countries that were old British territories even though the vast majority of people in those countries are not anglo. The ignorance of silly labels seems to be spreading.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
      • 72wolfspider24

        It may be innacurate, but the term Anglo has a very specific connotation, at least here in Texas. It's pretty much only used to describe people of apparent northern European ancestry. My grandparents (the last generation in my family to make regular use of the term) would never refer to, say, people of Italian, Greek, or Jewish ancestry as "Anglos". My grandpa, for instance, when telling a WWII story, would say "a couple of Anglos, an Italian, a Jewish guy, and myself, were separated from our unit in the French countryside. We holed up in an old barn, hiding from a Waffen SS unit that was searching the area."

        So the term is (or at least was) used in a specific non-racial sense.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • goodtotheend1

      HOORAH!!!!!! I agree, me, my great, great grandfather was from Ireland and fought in the Civil War and made both charges at Bull Run one and two. I was born an American in 1949. I'm an ex-marine 1967-1971, E-4. I fly a Conferate Flag in his memory. I got lots of black friends and they don't care about the flag. We "ALL" have bad/good from "ALL RACES". It's like pitbulls, you trained them(and our children) in the proper way to be repectable to "ALL". Don't believe everything you read in the newspapers or on TV. Take life one day at a time and be thankful for what you have. there is always someone worst off than us. have a blessed day.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  67. sheesh

    Aren't all Canadians / Mexicans / Chileans really "Americans" (and all the other residents of North, Central & South America)? Since when did the US have a monopoly on the label American?

    April 4, 2012 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
    • What A Joke

      Ever since the US had the biggest stick to slap the hispanics down... the way the world works is the current biggest baddest country gets to claim whatever they want until they are eventually and most surely crushed by a new super power. It's history...

      April 4, 2012 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Marta Paglianni

      The WHOLE continent from the tip of Canada all the way down to Tierra Del Fuego which is in Argentina and Chile is AMERICA. This is basic geography and history which any 7 yrs old child should know except if you are from the USA due to its poor education which is one of the worse in the world including many nations in Latin America.

      So reporters, don't ask any person born in Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica, Venezuela, Peru, Argentina etc questions like, "so how it feels been an American" or worse, "how long have you been living here in America" since ALL OF THEM were born in America. The USA doesn't make America.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
    • esf

      I am getting really tired of people confusing this name issue. Its really simple and has nothing to do with the USA having a "monopoly" on America or American. Back when this was all the "New World" it had two widely recognized names that referred to it all as a whole: Columbia (for Columbus) and America (for Amerigo). The US decided to put America in its name and keep Columbia as the name for its capital. Over time people just began referring to its citizens as "American".
      No one accuses Colombia of monopolizing the other nomenclature.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • MrApplesauce

      It's the common vernacular of citizens of the United States to call themselves (and often others to call them) Americans.

      Get over it...or come up with another term and maybe in 200 years it will be the new term that you can feel all warm and fuzzy about.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • goodtotheend1

      NO, I disagree

      April 4, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Maria

    The thing that bothers me the must is the information/stats provided by medical researchers about "Hispanics". As the article mentioned, Latinos come from many different countries and colors. An example, 'there is a higher incidence of hypertension among Hispanics." Which "Hispanics" are they talking about? "Hispanics" is not a race. How can they possibly think that this data is accurate? Depending on your country of origin, the diet may be more Mediteranian than the high fat/high salt diet of Latinos in the US Southwest, which they say may lead to having high blood pressure. This is just an example of the mis-information out there. Someone needs to challenge the medical community to mention the region or "Hispanic" group that they have studied. Maybe they feel that they would be politically incorrect to publish the thruth.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
    • dallaschris

      research is catching up. same for women... most research in the past excluded women. it just takes time.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  69. What A Joke

    @ Obama is the first black president...... NOT FIRST HALF BLACK / HALF WHITE...... so I guess if you're a racist like Obama you can claim the side you're not ashamed of, or claim whatever side benefits you most! @

    April 4, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
  70. Ernest

    Just for clarification: the majority of hispanic/latinos which Americans usually identify us with are actually what we call mestizo. This basically means we are a mix of Spaniard and Amerindian. Now there are white hispanics, black hispanics, mulatos (mix of black and Amerindian), oriental hispanics (They are all over), etc... But truthfully the matter of ethnicity (as hispanic is not a race, but an ethnicity) should not play into the decisions we make in life, whether business or education or news. This issue should not be politicized further.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  71. Peter Trainor

    Folks most Mexicans or Guatemalan, like the ones you all see at Home Depot, are mostly Native American Indians who had been here long before the White Spanish conquistadors landed here. TO me even Zimmerman looks more like a Native American Indian.
    Spaniards, think of Pau Gasol, RIta Hayward or Martin Sheen, were the first Europeans to conquer and colonized the new world and in the process they brought their culture, religion and language, even the horse. That new world was name America. That means the WHOLE continent from the tip of Canada all the way down to Tierra Del Fuego which is in Argentina and Chile. This is basic geography and history which any 7 yrs old child should know except if you are from the USA due to its poor education which is one of the worse in the world including many nations in Latin America.

    So reporters, don't ask any person born in Cuba, Haiti, Jamaica, Venezuela, Peru, Argentina etc questions like, "so how it feels been an American" or worse, "how long have you been living here in America" since ALL OF THEM were born in America. The USA doesn't make America.

    When Cristobal Colon, which was the name he was known then and the name he died with but in the USA he was Anglicized as Christopher Columbus, landed in the new world under the banner of Spain he NEVER came close or visited what is now known as the USA. SO is funny when he is celebrated in such a big way in the USA. The ONLY places he went to were The Dominican Republic, Cuba, Venezuela and other islands. All of those places reminded him of Spain and Italy. Juan Ponce de Leon, I believe, has the honor of landing in FLorida first. Now folks all of this happened over 100 yrs before the English came to the Americas. ALso some of you may say that Vikings came here first, which is probably true, but they didn't stay, conquered or colonized any land the way the Spaniards, Portuguese, The Brits and the French did.
    THis is what Colon wrote back to the courst in Spain: "They brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks' bells. They willingly traded everything they owned... . They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features.... They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane... . They would make fine servants.... With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want." Folks keep in mind that when Columbus and the Spaniards landed here they thought this was Asia so they didnt know what Native American Indians were yet.

    Now, we are all AMERICANS!! The USA is part of America and is in North America same as Canada and Mexico. Then you do have Central and South America.
    Hispanics or Latinos do come in all races. YOU have white Hispanic/Latinos like Cameron Diaz, Andy Garcia, Eddie Cibrian, Lorenzo Lamas or Cristina Aguilera or a mixed race like Jennifer Lopez or a pure Indian like George Lopez or a black one like the many baseball players from Cuba or the Dominican Republic, plenty of Asians too or are you all dumb enough, probably so, to think that Asians only emigrated to the USA LOL . THe fact that all of these races speak Spanish doesn't make them of one single race. That is were the ignorance of folks in the USA comes in.
    Is Denzel Washington or Will Smith, or Oprah white for been able to speak English?
    When the Spaniards landed in all over the Americas, also Portugal in Brazil, after a while when the Native American Indians were not strong enough to do the hard labor or strong to be use as slaves then they started the slaves business trade of bringing blacks into the new world so obviously those blacks with time they would learn Spanish and Portuguese. DUH...
    Most folks down in Latin America are white with a large stock from Spain, Italy, and many other European nations. In fact the further south you go in Latin America the more European it gets.
    Argentina with 40 million people, outside of Europe, is the MOST European like nation in the world also having citizens that arrived mostly from Spain, Italy, Germany and the rest of Europe. YOu will hardly see blacks or Native American Indians there the same way you find it in Mexico, Peru or Ecuador or the same way you find blacks in Cuba or the Dominican Republic.
    Also outside of Italy, Latin America does have more Italians or folks with Italian origin than any other places. Italians went to Latin America due to the many similarities to Italy such as the people, the culture, the religion, the language, the feeling, and for sure the weather. Latin nations are actually in Europe: Spain, Italy, France Portugal and Romania. Since Portugal and Spain colonized Central and South America and many Caribean Islands that is why is called Latin which in Spanish is Latino. All of this meaning having culture, similarity, language of a European Latin=Latino nation.

    Only when more folks from the USA travel outside their backyards then they will know that many whites and other races do live down below Mexico and the rest of Latin America.

    Over 500 yrs Colon (Columbus) reported to the King and Queen back in Madrid, Spain: "The Indian are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone...." He concluded his report by asking for a little help from their Majesties, and in return he would bring them from his next voyage "as much gold as they need ... and as many slaves as they ask." And, like the rest of the Conquistadors to follow, He was full of religious talk: "Thus the eternal God, our Lord, gives victory to those who follow His way over apparent impossibilities."

    April 4, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • What A Joke

      >>> Obama is the first black president...! NOT FIRST HALF BLACK / HALF WHITE... so I guess if you're a racist like Obama you can claim the side you're not ashamed of, or claim whatever side benefits you most! <<<

      April 4, 2012 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
      • vatoloke

        I'd reply but your screen name covers it.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ernest

      Well said. If you think about it the name of this nation is more of a description: United States of America. In many places we refer to people from here as Unitedstaneans. But I have no problem calling them Americans, it is a recognized term throughout the world for people of this nation. I do agree that it is egotistical on their end to refer to themselves as the only Americans. Anyhow, I am from Ecuador originally, but as you explained to them we come from a varied mix, I am roughly 50% Spaniard, 40 % Italian and 10% Amerindian and I am highly proud of all my ancestry. I love the history of the Amerindians and the Incan empire which covered great parts of South America, unlike the roaming tribes they had in the north. Technically North America begins from Panama upwards, though many people make the mistake of thinking that Mexico is the beginning of North America. South America is from Colombia downwards.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
    • loverpoint

      Check your map, they may be native american to the north and south american continents but believe me native americans were just as territorial if not more so. Aztec and Mayans slaughtered each other in the 100's of thousands on a regular bases. North American Native tribes would have never allowed South American Natives to enter their territory.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • mac

      Well, Professor Trainor, thanks for the lesson!;) You may want to check your spelling and grammar before posting though. I think you missed the point of the article.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
      • Peter Trainor

        Thanks Mac will do that. But hey like E. Hemingway I never could spell LOL But I think you got the gist of my article.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • ValenzMom

      HALLELUJAH! Finally someone out there who gets it. When will this country finally stop using race as a defining factor. EVERY American is a mixture of different country origins – but we are all Americans and that is what we need to call ourselves. Not some hyphenated made up name. George Zimmerman is an adult American who killed a child American – period. We need to stop focusing on the "racial" factor and start understanding that this is a prejudicial factor – Zimmerman was prejudiced against Martin because of the way he looked. That prejudice is fueled by the media – "You'd better be wary of a dark-skinned kid in a hoodie" or "You'd better be scared of a dark-skinned man at an airport." 200 years ago Americans disliked the Irish, during WWII it was anyone speaking German or even remotely resembling an Asian. Apparently we haven't learned from those times – will we learn from this incident?

      April 4, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • cworr

      Good summary. I would only add, for those who don't already know, that the term "Latin" or "Latino" refers to the descendants of the Western Roman Empire who retained more of the ancient language and culture after the "barbarians" overran the Roman frontier. Most of Northern Europe speaks Germanic Languages (including English) as a result of the invasions. If not for the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Roman Britain, we might also be Latin (Latino).

      April 4, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sushi

      Peter! You hit the nail on the head. Thank you!!!

      April 4, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      I don't necessarily agree with the part about those guys who hang out at Home Depot. They rarely, if ever, speak English. They do not speak a "Native American" language either. They are primarily illegal immigrants who find work by hanging out at the local home improvement store for wages that they don't pay taxes on. They are a scourge, an infestation, a drain on the economy and the tax payers. However, the people who hire them to do the jobs, are just as bad.

      FYI, it is widely known that at some point all people came from the same place, they just migrated via different routes. North Americans got here via the land bridge thousands of years ago.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  72. What A Joke

    Obama is the first black president... NOT FIRST HALF BLACK / HALF WHITE... so I guess if you're a racist like Obama you can claim the side you're not ashamed of, or claim whatever side benefits you most!

    April 4, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
    • tommy

      Its cuz he looks obviously black....if he looked white, he would be the first half black president.

      One thing is for sure, what he is...is thanks to his white mother, not his black father. 🙂

      April 4, 2012 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  73. db

    If the POTUS is half black and half white why do we call him black? Who cares? He is only a man!

    April 4, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
  74. db

    Americans!

    April 4, 2012 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
  75. tommy

    If you happen to be white, from South Africa, can you claim to be African-American?????

    April 4, 2012 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • sickandtired

      no your a white south african-american, something or other

      April 4, 2012 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • tommy

      No???? I guess that's only reserved for black people? Why even use the term? Just call yourself black, no matter where you are from??

      April 4, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  76. Diane

    For those who wish they could return to their country of origin, who or what is stopping you?

    April 4, 2012 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • sickandtired

      the economy, no jobs, no money, saddled with loans from higher education, and the man

      April 4, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Btru

      I fail to see your point. We all like to be identified correctly. Growing up in american schools and in foriegn schools i heard many white american identify themselves with their roots (i.e. Irish American, Chinese American, Polish American). I have even heard the term mutt where people describe that they are 50% this, 25% that, etc. Just like most identify themselves through their parents, bringing in location is just another detail.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
  77. capnmike

    You know darn well what they call themselves...but WE aren't allowed to use that word.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  78. db

    I agree with you. What is the purpose of this dual nationality identification anyway, it only furthers racisim and the flames of racism are fanned by the inability to accept each other as equals and those that stand to gain from continued aggitation between identified groups. Stop the crazies out there before they distroy America.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
  79. capnmike

    My wife is "Hispanic", "Latina"...whatever you want to call it...and it really is upsetting to her (and myself) that Americans are so stupid and uneducated they just assume that all these people are Mexicans or Cubans or Puerto Ricans...there are also Venezuelans, Ecuadorians, Brazilians, Argentineans, Peruvians, etc etc etc...and NONE of them eat tacos! And MANY of them are here LEGALLY. Have some respect please.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
    • db

      Who cares, are you American or from the "other country"? If you are from XYZ then that is what you are, noting more and nothing less.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
      • Peter Trainor

        DB they are all AMERICANS. The USA is part of America but is not America. It is in North America same as Canada and Mexico. Then you do have Central and South America. Bugt is all part of the American continent. Stop been so arrogant thiking that only the USA is AMERICA. Ignorant fool.

        April 4, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
      • MrApplesauce

        Oh please Peter. You are the one that has to get off your high horse.

        American is the simple term for a citizen of the United States. It has become common vernacular. It is not some racist diss on other people who are from this hemisphere.

        Please, feel free to come up with a new term (Stateian, Unitedino, Middlesectionofthenortherncontinentoftheamericasian) if it bothers you so much and maybe it will catch on.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • loverpoint

      How can you with a straight face say many are here legally, I suppose you count Anchor Babies ( Children conceived in Mexico but born on U.S. soil at U.S. tax payer expense as here legally. I see Mexican mothers with their 4 + children broods walking down the street and not speaking one word of english, when they need directions the use their 5 year old as interpreter

      April 4, 2012 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Frank

      None of them eat Tacos?? I almost took you serious there Mike..

      April 4, 2012 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
    • StopCrying

      Hmmm Hispanics don't want to be called Hispanic because it is somehow insulting and they don't want to be Latino because that is insulting but they do want to have their Mexican, Panamanian, or Columbian flag flying outside their house. On the other hand my family is Scotish and my wife is Greek so I guess I should start whining that people call both of us white. The idea that Hispanic should be broken down to country of origin sounds great and from now on I don't want to hear a single Mexican or Columbian or Cuban use the term "White guy" you all need to find out if I am Russina, English, or Yugoslavian because they arent all the same.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
  80. Michael

    Simply put, the designation and separation of races in itself is racist and we need to stop using terms like this to describe skin color. The sooner we do that, the better. Ok...so i'm white. Big deal. My fiancee is of Mexican heritage. Big deal. My future children will be mixed blood and many will say they should be categorized as white hispanic, but i'll tell they can put that or they can put other. It doesn't bother me.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
    • StopCrying

      So your girlfriend has a nationality -Mexican but you just have the generic catagory of "white". Don't you feel offended? SHouldn't you be English-American or just French?

      April 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
  81. ThePastaSauce

    Enough with this PHONEY race BS – the Trayvon shooting had nothing to do with race only the PRESS made it racial. If the headline had read "Neighborhood watch patrol shoot unarmed teenager, claims self-defense" that would have been IT!!! At NO TIME did Zimmerman interject race into this – nor did he profile Trayvon to insinuate he did is 100% conjecture. The only time Trayvon's skin color came into question is when the 911 operator asked "what color is he white, Hispanic or black?" This is not a case of racial profiling the Federal government has NO JURISDICTION over the case and the news should let the local authorities handle the case. End of story...NEXT

    April 4, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Sarar

      Hogpucky! Zimmerman's call and many of his other 911 calls emphasized the race of the person. This is not an invention by the media. Just in case you think I am anti-Zimmerman I am not. I am impartial on the subject and don't know what the hell to believe, but I can say for certain that the media did not make George Zimmerman call 911 because the kid was Black.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
      • StopCrying

        It became racial when the local TV station instantly went with the headline "White neighboorhood watchman shoots black teen". Personally I saw the story and as soon as I saw Zimmerman's face I thought "he is South American why do they keep saying "WHITE MAN"?" because if the news crew didn't say WHITE man shoots and kills BLACK child it wouldn't get enough attention.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patricksday

      ThepastaSauce, the Reality is it is about race, if Zimmerman where a white man who shot that kid and he had been a white kid, Zimmerman would be in Jail, plain and simple. Zimmerman was raised as a white man when he was adopted by a White man who happens to also be a Judge. People who know people have more immunity than others if your white.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Richard

    This is all crap anyway. If you're offended by being referred to one thing or the other and you're making it a big deal you need a job or something else to do. We're in the U.S. of America and you're now an American. Considering that most of us come from a place called America anyway I could think of worse things to be called. Everyone needs stop whining and grow up. I'm Latino (Salvadorean), Gay, brown and I'm over all of this crap.

    On the other hand, for the sake of research I think people should be as descriptive as possible but not for the silly political reasons why it's done now.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • sickandtired

      Darn your all mixed up...you don't even know if your male or female...confusion is sad

      April 4, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Disabled Veteran

      I'm half dominican and half hungarian. Both of my parents were born in the U.S.. My grandfather, father, and I were all in the U.S. Military. If you noticed... you can NOT BE "WHITE" and "HISPANIC" anymore. Go check your forms for new applicants and behind EVERY race it states "EXCEPT WHITE". You're not allowed to be black and hispanic, asian and hispanic, or anything else AND hispanic. The form is now singling out hispanics. The form to me is showing the racism.

      Show me an application, that I can select "AMERICAN". After all I wear the scars for the freedoms this country gets to enjoy. So, shouldn't I and ALL AMERICANS have the right to select American? Until then... Racism will not end, And definately not when the forms are singling out a specific race!!

      April 4, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
      • Disabled Veteran

        I meant behind each race it states "EXCEPT HISPANIC"... not white as i typed above.

        April 4, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  83. Sighhhh

    The world was so much easier when it was just "Red, Yellow, Black, and White."

    April 4, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Wrikar

      Easier for whom?

      April 7, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Josh Perez

    Next time somebody asks me "What are you?" I'll say: "You say he's white and that he is black. Call me BROWN" Happy now?

    April 4, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  85. db

    Let's face it all this politically correctness has gone to far. If you still hold citizenship of another country then you should be labled from there and are a citizen from there. If you are a citizen of the USA then you are an American, plain and simple. I don't care if you are Black, White, Yellow, Red, Brown, or Green, you are an American, period! This bi-nationality thing is nonsince and a choice has to be made. Either your are in or get out.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • sickandtired

      I agree..you call the census bureau and tell them to change their applications to say..are you american? yes/no?...guess what it's not going to happen because the goverment wants division

      April 4, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
      • mac

        The census dept. wants to know where all of us Americans (United Statesians) come from. After all we are all from some where else.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
  86. John

    This is just CNN spinning the attention of being caught in a corner, by that I mean being labeled as racists.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  87. Holy tortillas Mr. El Presidente!

    Hispacins, Latinos, Mexicans, Cubans, Central/Southern Americans and on and on and on have an overwhelming singular descriptor. ILLEGAL ALIEN, here's another label they can all share "deported"

    April 4, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • twentynine30s

      Cubans aren't illegal aliens.. nor can they be considered that if they were to land on American soil "illegally". Check your facts

      April 4, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Holy tortillas Mr. El Presidente!

        Key word, "illegally" the rest is semantics created by politicians.

        April 4, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  88. Kelly

    If race had not been mentioned the Treyvon Martin story would be local only. Race baiters, CNN included, made it a racial issue because that is what they do..

    April 4, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  89. Jim

    Many are, indeed, Mexican-American (although I really dislike all the "hyphenated" names), but do NOT county the millions of illegal aliens as American's...please! We have American culture...remember? The "melting pot" and all that? My wife is a LEGAL alien and English is her second language. Sure, be proud of your old heritage, but if you're a citizen of the U.S., then you're an American, not half of this and half of that. We shouldn't be making policy and language changes because of the many millions who are here illegally. They should have no count in this, yet they do, so much more than those here legally.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  90. M.E.

    Yeah well I'm Scottish, Swedish, and Danish (albeit the Danish part now happens to be in Germany thanks to Hitler) American but nobody seems bothered to ask about it. Generally I am simply a "white girl." Given the chance, I'd jump ship to go to any of those counties in a heartbeat. I haven't liked being American since elementary school when I decided that the revolutionary war was stupid and we should have stuck with England. If nobody is bothered enough to ask my specific racial mix, why should I be bothered to ask yours to sort out if you're Mexican or Peruvian or whatever?

    It's all quite stupid though. We're all human and nationalities only serve to divide us.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
  91. Jorge

    I was born in Cuba but I prefer the label Mexican.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
  92. Joe from CT, not Lieberman

    I found it hilarious that the author cites studies that show people from different parts of Latin America and the Caribbean prefer to refer to themselves by nationality rather than generic ethnicity, then proceeds to continue using terms (Hispanic or Latino) to describe them that they do not want to use for themselves.

    April 4, 2012 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
  93. Antonio

    My family is from Spain and we can trace our origins back 500 years with our own coat of arms, but in america we are known as latino, hispanic, mexican and wetback....go figure.

    April 4, 2012 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • M.E.

      I feel ya. I have books tracing my ancestry back 500 years too except mine goes to Denmark, Sweden, and Scotland. Yet here everybody just sees me as a white girl. Frankly I wish my various bloodlines had never come here since all three places are about a million times better than America.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Jim

        A million times better? That's some seriously ludicrous thinking there.

        April 4, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Big Bob

        I see you as an unappreciative American girl. The countries you name could use a little nationalism. Scotland certainly has it seeing as how they're still trying to break from the UK. And Sweden? Denmark? If they don't butch up soon, they'll be overrun by their muslim overlords. Wake up!

        April 4, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
      • cici

        One can only hope your comment was made tongue in cheek. Otherwise there is a really easy fix. Leave!

        April 4, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
      • Juan Diego Jr

        Really Really. That is one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard how could you possibly be so foolish to put a stat that make no sense at all on a public forum. A million times better really and what did you base this number on. These books you describe can you actually read them or did someone else read them to you? How much do you receive in food stamps?

        April 4, 2012 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Defend Your Heritage

      Antonio, that's EXACTLY our point here! You have exemplified it for us perfectly! If your family is from Spain then you are of WHITE EUROPEAN parentage! And don't allow anyone else to tell you any different! Embrace your White European ancestry and go with that because that is who and what you are! If anyone tries to label you any differently, don't forget to Immediately CORRECT them! It behooves you to do that or else fall into the marginalization category like so many others do by not speaking up and defending their White heritage!

      April 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Laquetetenhi

    Another tool has SPOKEN! Yes you, Mr. Jono. To quote another post here from 'Think First'.

    "If only the world worked as simply as it does in your mind." LMFAO, I love this quote! By far the best.

    Hispanic/Latino is NOT; let me repeat it again, so that when you're reading it, it breaks the wax from yer ears; IT IS NOT A RACE! Latino is the spanish (I can make another argument about 'spanish', but I will not go there with you; you wouldn't get it) translation for 'Latin', which is a language. I'll also let 'Hispanic' be, because you wouldn't get it either.

    April 4, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  95. Why

    Of course Hispanic families will identify with something else. Just like we are not only white. We are European decent. But we at not only Europeans, we are Irish, Scandanavians, German, British, French, Norwegians, and so on and so on. We are so used to being called white most of us are okay with not identifying specifically with our root country, we are Americans. Go back 100 years and we would be having this same conversation, "An Irish man killed a German man over a beer". Today is just shifted to hispanics and asians, and other non-whites.

    April 4, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • MrApplesauce

      Actually, I'm just an American.

      Some German, some English, some Irish, some Polish, and a whole mess of 'I have no idea where they came from".

      April 4, 2012 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
  96. Coolbreeze

    Has anybody labeled you as being mexican? Do get offended?

    April 4, 2012 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • boomer662

      Constantly, it's a running joke with my friends and that's ok because I've known them for over half of my life. When I meet new people that's one of their first assumptions, Grrr! Latin America doesn't begin and end with Mexico.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Ricky

      I get offended; I'm not Mexican.

      April 4, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Rodeo_Joe

    Why is America so AFRAID of DIVERSITY? Is that not the very definition of Xenophobic?

    Xenophobia usually reflects a lower IQ, as a recent scientific study has proved ( G. Hodson et al., 2012 ).

    Xenophobics are typically afraid of Science, as well.

    April 4, 2012 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      That's some of the goofiest stuff I've heard in years. Diversity is ok when it's not shoved down your throat. You obviously think of diversity as so many separate things, when actually, what this country always prided itself on being, is a melting pot. My family has three major religions, one legal alien from a VERY different culture (my wife), kids of mixed race...yet we can't STAND all this cute little "diversity" garbage. Just let it happen, like it did in my own family. Stop spouting off about it, stop saying seriously goofy things like "if you're not for diversity, then you're xenophobic, and that means you have a lower IQ"! Oh, please, grow up.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
      • gavilansalvaje

        "Diversity" with the Big D is a political tool used to divide and conquer the American public.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Who ever said that America is afraid of diversity? Sorta sound and looks like you are though. Xenophobics are known to for their race baiting, shrill comments and lack of knowledge on where the caps button is.. 🙂

      April 4, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
      • vahellbilly

        Obviously you've never taken a wrong-turn in an inner city as a white... Try asking for directions in that scenario and see how diversity and racial-harmony works out for ya.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • gavilansalvaje

      Xenophobia is a tool used by the pwoers-that-be to maintain their powerbases.

      April 4, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  98. NYC1972

    I'm American my parents were born in Puerto Rico, i was born in NYC – yea, you can call me hispanic if you want to label, rather be called puerto rican knowing all to well i'm 100% American and damn proud of it, many ignorant fools still don't know PR is a territory of the USA. Also, "hispanics themselves level you how ethnic you are, usually goes if your spanish is excellent vs. spanglish. Not really an issue at all for us PR's, it's an issue for Mexican's, they just have a stigma for very good reasons.

    April 4, 2012 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Coolbreeze

      Has anybody labeled you as being mexican? Do get offended

      April 4, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Sarar

      I too am American, born in South America – Brazil to be exact. My birth certificate however does not say I have a race. It says I am brasileiro. If I had been born a girl it would have said I was a brasileira. America used to be closer to correct on race pre Jim Crow. You either had 2 white parents of European descent and were white, some form of African blood and were Black, Asian or Native/Indigenous. Only marketers and politicians are served by creating artificial racial categories based on a common language, religion or surname group.

      April 4, 2012 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
  99. Julie

    German, Mexican, African, black, white, pink or purple; if you are American you are American. If you are X-American then you are divided on your loyalty. Either choose to be American or leave and be loyal to the other country. Except Native Americans, who were here when white man landed, we all came from another country. Stop the division and become one country.

    April 4, 2012 at 10:48 am | Report abuse |
    • Ed

      Identifying one's ethnicity has never been part of one's loyalty to this country. Loyalty is based on many other things but is simply not related to one's citizenship status. It has never been nor will it ever be. History alone can tell you why.

      April 4, 2012 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Big Bob

      I recently read a new study that had europeans reaching the continent some 15.000 years ago, predating the asians who came across the Bering straight. That night, I watched an old western and cheered for the cavalry protecting us from the asian horde!

      April 4, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  100. Coolbreeze

    Why do they call mexicans RATA? Because they like to sneak in every little hole and multiply

    April 4, 2012 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
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