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Ruling expected soon in Iowa employment discrimination lawsuit
The suit alleges that black employees were passed over for job opportunities because white managers preferred to hire whites.
April 16th, 2012
08:01 AM ET

Ruling expected soon in Iowa employment discrimination lawsuit

Updated April 18, 2012: Attorney: Plaintiffs will appeal dismissal of Iowa 'unconscious bias' discrimination lawsuit

By Stephanie Siek, CNN

(CNN) – According to her resume, Nansi Woods looked like a good fit for the job, an adviser position at the Iowa Workforce Development office. She had a master's degree in rehabilitation counseling, a bachelor's degree in communications, one of several preferred fields related to the job and a minor in social work. She more than met the minimum requirements listed in the job description, which asked for an associate's degree or certificate of education completion.

Another applicant had a bachelor's degree in a preferred field, but was still taking courses toward a master's degree in human resources. A third person seeking the job had no degree, no specific job experience and none of the listed computer skills. These last two applicants – both of them white – were offered the job. Woods, who is black, was never granted an interview.

A class action suit filed in 2007 on behalf of Woods and up to 6,000 other African-Americans who were passed over for jobs or promotions with the state of Iowa alleges that they were victims of discrimination.

The plaintiff's attorneys attempted to remove lead plaintiff, Linda Pippen, from the case after she was convicted of embezzling more than $43,000 in unemployment benefits from the state, but a judge denied the motion. Thomas Newkirk, one of the attorneys representing the plaintiffs, said Pippen’s conviction should not cast doubt on the others' discrimination claims, and that her misconduct occurred after the suit was filed.

Jeff Thompson, the state attorney representing Iowa, said that the state could not comment on an ongoing case. But in the state's answer to the lawsuit, it denies the allegations of discrimination.

Lawyers from both sides of the case said an Iowa court judge was expected to rule on the suit, Pippen et al. v. State of Iowa, soon.

The plaintiffs' attorneys say the discrimination is not necessarily a result of overt racism. They say the discriminatory hiring was often the result of implicit bias – an unconscious preference of the mostly white hiring officials for white applicants over black applicants.

Attorneys for the plaintiffs faced a key obstacle – proving the existence of something that white people might not be able to see. They had to show that discrimination might take place, even if it's not intentional.

The lawsuit cites the Implicit Association Test, known as the IAT, to demonstrate how unconscious biases against African-Americans might have influenced behavior of Iowa hiring officials.

The test used in the AC360 "Kids on Race" special series, which looked at children and teens' attitudes toward race and interracial interactions, uses some of the principles established in the IAT.

The IAT was created in 1998 by University of  Washington psychology professor Anthony Greenwald as a way to measure unconscious bias. Since then, many different versions have been developed to measure different kinds of biases, but it’s the way the implicit association test measures attitudes toward different racial groups that has become famous. Test takers are shown pictures of both African-American and white faces and are asked to match them with either negative or positive words. The faster a test subject associates a word with the image, the closer the subject's association between the two. The IAT can be taken online at Harvard University's Project Implicit website – click on "Demonstration" and when presented with a list of tests, click on "Race IAT."

The test has been taken more than one million times, and Greenwald and other researchers established that 70% to 80% of American test takers have a measurable automatic preference for white people over black people – regardless of the test taker’s race, gender or age. Greenwald said this preference for whites can be measured in more than 75% of white Americans, and about the same rate for Asian-Americans. Hispanic test takers score a bit less, 70%. A third of African-Americans showed an unconscious preference for whites, a third for blacks, and a third showed no preference for either group.

Greenwald said it is important to remember that most of those whose testing shows an unconscious bias against blacks are not racists – to the contrary, the bias shows up even in those who profess a deep belief in racial equality. Most are surprised to hear that they express any kind of preference for one race over another.

"If we're going to talk about the context of this Iowa case, the question is how can discrimination occur in this large organization when the vast majority of this organization will say they have no racial biases; they don't prefer white to black; they’re egalitarian," Greenwald said. "But this unconscious race preference has been shown in research to be closely related to behavior, so that people with this preference display behavior that indicates their preference for white over black."

Thomas Newkirk, one of workers' lead attorneys, said that the test proves that unconscious bias exists nationwide, among a variety of demographic categories – and that there's no evidence that people in Iowa are immune.

"You can’t assume that bias is not in the room," Newkirk said. "You have to assume it is in the room, and then you can do something about it."

Iowa as a whole is 91.3% white, and 2.9% black, according to 2010 Census results.

A state-commissioned analysis of hiring patterns in Iowa state government from 2004-2006 showed that a significantly lower number of qualified African-Americans than whites were selected for job interviews or hired for the jobs. The data presented in the report by CPS Human Resources Services indicated that the discrepancies between the success of black and white applicants were so wide, the chance of the discrepancy being attributable to anything other than race was approximately less than one in one billion. According to the report, 88.02% of the "qualified applicants" for jobs in that time period were white, and 91.33% of all people interviewed for jobs were white. Black people accounted for 5.97% of the applicants deemed qualified, but only 3.47% of those interviewed.

The lawsuit alleges that Iowa encouraged the belief that affirmative action required them to hire unqualified African-Americans; steered African-Americans into low-paying jobs; failed to give African-Americans credit for experience or considerations for promotions or title changes; kept managers with known racial biases in positions of power and refused to discipline white employees who discriminated or harassed African-Americans. The suit says the state preferred to hire less-qualified white or non-black minorities "to provide an excuse for the failure to hire the African-Americans and to further reduce the number of qualified internal African-American candidates for management positions."

It also said that the head of the state's Employee Services Department used a screening test proven to have a disproportionately adverse impact on African-Americans and to have little relation to the jobs offered as a way of filtering out African-American applicants.

The state work environment was "hostile and offensive," the suit said, "where African-Americans know that their race is a factor each and every day they are at work, knowing that if they complain they will be ignored or punished, knowing that less-qualified whites will be promoted, knowing that if they are promoted their ability will be doubted, and understanding that for them, as a class, there are fewer employment opportunities within state government than for whites as a class."

The suit asks that the state use implicit bias testing to find out how pervasive hidden biases are within the system, and conduct training that educates employees about the history of racial bias against African-Americans and the need for further training about affirmative action and its goals.

Newkirk said the case forces people to examine the subtle ways in which societal stereotypes about African-Americans' work habits, education and capabilities can color their thinking and actions.

"I knew the answer did not lie in the two polarized baskets," Newkirk said. "That is the key to this case, where we’re trying not to force it into the basket of 'All Iowans are racists' or to place it in the basket that 'We blame the African-Americans for not being qualified,' but basically place it right in the middle where reality lies, where there is some negative association with race, where people should be more aware of them. We should always be responsible for it."

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  1. Swoowsh.

    Got damn, the girl in the middle i s HOOOOOOOOT!

    April 16, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
  2. juskishi

    truth is blacks hold a disproportionate % of gov't jobs when compared to their population %. i wonder how many qualified white people are turned down on a daily basis for a job because the business feels a need to hire a less qualified person of color so they're not the target of discrimination suits.

    April 16, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
  3. WDinDallas

    They probably didn't pass the background check.....

    April 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • ComeOnMan9

      yeah that's right because I had time to get an advanced degreee and be a criminal.!

      April 16, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Vic

        yeah, because no one in school ever committed a crime. That's just unheard of.

        April 16, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Brianna

    Did no one read the article?

    This is a class action suit. That means that there was just not this one person who was not hired, but a large group of people who feel they were not hired due to their race.

    "A class action suit filed in 2007 on behalf of Woods and up to 6,000 other African-Americans who were passed over for jobs or promotions with the state of Iowa alleges that they were victims of discrimination."

    Six thousand people. That's enough to demonstrate a pattern. Not one qualified person overlooked, not two or even twenty, but six thousand. Attorneys do hundreds of hours of research before they file these things, because if the grounds aren't there the case gets immediately tossed out and they've wasted time and effort. This is why it is going to trial – they've established a pattern, and now it's up to the court to decide whether or not the state was discriminating.

    Everyone gets to submit their proof. No one has been proven guilty yet. Nothing has been finalized. So why all the outrage and justification? I, for one, would REALLY appreciate it if 6,000 people seemed to be discriminated against by the state for any reason and there was a class action suit filed to determine if that were actually the case. Isn't this what the court system is for?

    April 16, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gina

      I pray justice prevails in this widespead case. This sort of thing happens all of the time!

      April 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Scott Allen

    BTW. I'm white, and my first impression was that the young black lady was beautiful, smartly and tastefully dressed and looks competent. Both of the white people were dressed in colder colors while black girl was dressed in warm, friendly colors. I wonder if and how many other unconscious triggers were intended in that picture. There are other subtle things like both women look to have data on their laps that show they are prepared and the guy has a newspaper which could signify it's just another job interview or that he's really more interested in the sports column. Just looking the picture could help identify bias. Very intriguing.

    April 16, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
  6. hammer

    When you go into a state or county office where I live at all you see is black women working their.And where I live at it is about 90% white.

    April 16, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • PugPower

      Sounds like the beginning of another class action lawsuit to me!

      April 16, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
  7. wazuri77

    I had a job and unfortunately after 3 months due to the racist mentality of a white female manager, I was terminated and the position was subsequently filled by another white female. I filed a discrimination suit based on race/gender and it was settled out of court. The manager began nitpicking things that were not work related, she brought up how I was sitting in my chair, she rummaged through my trash can for recyclables, she mentioned that I was not a good "cultural" fit for the office; she had an issue when I dressed down in jeans on casual Friday (my white colleagues wore jeans). The office was predominantly white and I was the only AA male. Not once did she mention any work issues, in fact, a week before my termination, she stated in a email that my work was "wonderful". Discrimination happens ALL the time, unfortunately, many people think that folks are always playing the race card, but fail to realize that its being dealt.

    April 16, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      Interesting that the same story you described happened to me.

      Im white. My manager was white.

      Please explain how racism was involved. Since we KNOW that any situation described as such must have been due to racism.

      April 16, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Laila

      Congratulations for standing up for yourself! I really like how you ended your post.

      April 16, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • multi-racial rainbow

      I know someone whose co-workers were checking the labels of her clothes to determine what brand she wore. They didn't like her because she had a nice car and because of the neighborhood she lived in. Her co-workers were jealous of her success and did everything they could to cause her problems. HR investigated and they did determine it was racism but they covered it up. Yes it happens all the time and some companies allow it to happen.

      April 16, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Typical

    This is typical black behavior. They didn't pick me they are racist. If only whites could have the same privilege. Black people seriously need to get over themselves.

    April 16, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • juskishi

      what a bunch of bs. tell this to the many white teachers who are denied jobs at predominately black high schools on a daily basis. i personally know a few who were told "you would not fit in here" because they were white. but good luck proving discrimination in that scenario.

      April 16, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  9. CRAGAR92

    PURE BULL CRAP, JUST ANOTHER BLACK WANTING ATTENTION, JUST CALL OBAMA

    April 16, 2012 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Puma316

      THIS COMING FROM A BIGOT AND A RACIST. MATTER OF FACT CALL YOUR KKK FRIENDS AND GO VOTE FOR ROMNEY AND MAKE SURE YOU DONT LEAVE YOUR REDNECK COMFORT-ZONE!!!!! SAID BUT A WASTE AT THE SAME TIME.

      April 16, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Scott Allen

    I took the test and was surprised that I "strongly" preferred European whites over blacks. I love color, been on two mission trips to Kenya where I fell in love with the people. I enjoy ethnicity as I think the diversity of cultures adds so much enjoyment and wonder to life. That all being said, am I a product of media that regularly paints (sorry for the pun) blacks in a negative context. Is it the numbers of blacks being arrested? I'm a bit dismayed at the potential racial bias I have. Truthfully I'm very saddened by the bias. Just being honest, but I'm likely to get ridiculed for my results. One thought on that though. Do you think my "strong bias" will be reinforced or weakened by those that might take cheat shots at me for my honesty? That might also depend upon whether you announce your color or what I perceive your color to be.

    April 16, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • ComeOnMan9

      We all have biases for one reason or another. TV would have you to believe that Black people are obscessed with criminality and yet me and my friends have never spent one night in jail. I think you find what you are looking for.

      April 16, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
  11. john smoggins

    In their most recent Scientific Research, Experts have demonstrated beyond all doubt that the Pope is, as rumored, very much a Catholic. In corollafy studies of equally great Scientific portent, strikingly similar Scientific Analysis has shown that brown bears have a marked tendency to leave behind trace fecal matter in exposed areas of The Woods. Further Studies indicate a critical need for Scientific Inquiry into the distinct possibility that the Pope might harbor significantly greater degrees of bias toward what his personal viewpoints determine to be unacceptable behavior; and perhaps equally urgent and in immediate remedial government action is the lack of proper sanitary facilities for brown bears.

    April 16, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Danish

    I think this is still race issue or bad previous experience with that company.
    If I go into departmental and see 2 sales associate black & white and I go straight to while person that might be unconscious bias. But if I see there resume and found black person more qualified but still go with white person, that's may be racism.
    Because they didn't make decision in a split second.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Jdoc

    It's unfortunate but this is a real problem, but not just for minorities. Try getting a job in Atlanta as a white professional. I work every day in a law firm in which zero non black contract attorneys have been hired permanently in the past year. We have multiple non black professionals with vastly superior education to the permanent hires HR keeps hiring. They keep being passed over in favor of people with little legal education and even less work experience. If I say anything about it I'm automatically a racist in spite of the fact these hiring practices have negatively affected cases I had to present in negotiations and court. And it's not even hiring in favor of people we could pay less to, as the permanent hires get paid $10 more an hour than the contractors do. Is it surprising this all started after a minority took over HR?

    April 16, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      "Is it surprising this all started after a minority took over HR?"

      Yes.

      But only because saying "No, it is not surprising" and citing such Champions of Black Justice like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and their undiminished, unwavering support of such characters as Tawana Brawley and Crystal Mangum, would classify me as racist.

      People think racism is defined as "white people hating black people".

      April 16, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
  14. b

    I think there is actually something to this, and I think it is great to have a case like this that will promote a national discussion on the fact that in many instances race plays a conscious, but mostly unconscious factor in job hiring. I think this will help many employers become more conscious of that fact.

    Another thing though, people being passed over by under qualified people happens all the time, and it has absolutely nothing to do with race. Firstly, when hiring people, employers do not simply sum up a person by what is written on a piece of paper, they also place great emphasis on the way a person carries him or her self during an interview. They can also put a great deal of emphasis on the person's references; on who the references are in relation to you and what they say about the person. Secondly, often times a job is acquired simply by who you know. God knows how many times I've interviewed for a job and was passed over for someone I was way more qualified than, just because the person knew the person hiring him/her, or knew someone that knew the person that was hiring him/her, etc.. It is pretty ridiculous, but that is the reality of the job market...... it is not always fair... This is why i think this case doesn't really have a leg to stand on, but I believe it is an important topic to be discussed.. But it is kind of hard to find someone at fault for unconscious racism.....haha.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Tyler

    Well, I don't get called back all the time. Why? How the hell am I supposed to know. Do I throw the d word at people? No.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • tray

      IT'S THE SMELL

      April 16, 2012 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
  16. tom e

    Will it ever stop about minorities whining about discrimination. People really get tired of those people using race as an issue for everything. Grow up and move on

    April 16, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Puma316

      what is wrong with you? Are you that stupid or so ignorant to see reality of what it is sometimes for others. No everyone is trying to use race, but certain cases merits such claims b/c it true. Unless YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO READ, BUT THIS STORY CLEARLY MERIT THE CLAIM. Wake up and smell the coffee STUPID.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        How does it merit a claim?

        Nansi was never seen by interviewers. They didn't know what race she was. How could they have discriminated based on race?

        April 16, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • tom e

        You really need to use better sentence structure to get a job. Such as " to see really of what it is ?" and " no everyone is trying to use race ?" It"s comments like that disqualifies you from most " English " speaking jobs

        April 16, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Puma316

        The fact that she wasn't interviewed was mentioned, but if you have been seeking and applying for work, most employers will ask for your RACE even though your are not obligated to respond on it. Let face it, they were overlooking and disregarding those applicants with the race BLACK on it.

        Anyone who doesn't see the needs to have this investigated and reviewed must be living in a bubbles or simply egocentric to REALITY.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Scott Allen

        There is nothing that states that race was on the resume. Here's another criteria I have seen used that might be the decision to not interview the qualified applicant. If you are hiring for a job that only requires an associates degree, and you get someone with a Masters degree applying for the position, you are wondering if they will stay in the job, because they are OVER QUALIFIED! You sometimes take lesser skilled individuals, because they will stay in the job longer. They might have feared that the Master degree candidate would only use that entry level position job as a stepping stone to a job they are more qualified for or, gasp, they might be after your job!

        April 16, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • SheliaJoy Clarke

      Well Tom it is nice to live in the state of denial however your "head int the sand post" does not make the problem go away. Read the first part of the story. A black applicant was MORE QUALIFIED and denied an interview while the less qualified white applicant; one of which did not have a degree was offered an interview.

      Just because "you say it is not so" does not mean it is not true; it just means Tom does not ahve the "capacity to understand".

      April 16, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • tom e

        No most whites understand because most government jobs are filled by less qualified due to affirmative action. Lower qualifications so more blacks can be hired or go to college. It happens all the time.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        "A black applicant was MORE QUALIFIED and denied an interview while the less qualified white applicant; one of which did not have a degree was offered an interview."

        Just because somebody MORE QUALIFIED was turned down does not mean they were turned down because of RACE.

        I've been turned down for jobs for which I was overqualified. Is that because I'm white too?

        You seem to think that because somebody is black nothing bad is ever allowed to happen. If it does, its the racist white's fault. Doesn't work that way.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • cc

        Shelia, sometimes a person doesn't get hired or even interviewed because they are over qualified. I have had to in the past pass on people that were over qualified, because I knew they wouldn't stay on the job at such low pay. I know this sounds strang, but its true. The report said the requirements were low anyway, why would you hire someone that most likely going to leave for a better job as soon as they can? It isn't about race, its about common sense.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Laila

      People such as yourself should stop pushing your racial prejudices on blacks. You are an offender.

      April 16, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • multi-racial rainbow

      You can try on discrimination and see how you feel, then perhaps you'll have a bit more empathy. No one is whining but everyone does have the right to earn and honest living. I doubt you could handle being a minority (gender, age, race, disability) for any length of time.

      April 16, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Brian

    I happen to live in Iowa and it is the redneck capitol of the universe.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
  18. ronmexico99

    If she wasn't granted an interview, how did they know she was black?????????? Am I missing something???

    April 16, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lewan

      maybe the smell?

      April 16, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Puma316

      Most applications now ask for your Race even-though you are not obligated to disclose it.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        www . iowaworkforce . org/centers/genericapp.pdf

        Where is the question?

        April 16, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • me

      There are many ways to guess or determine a persons gender or race. Many State and Federal Applications ask applicants to voluntarily disclose this information. Decline, and they make assumptions.

      I hate to say it, but as a Black Man I can see a name and its spelling and making "guesses" on a person race, nationality or gender.

      Not enough information in the story to make a conclusive decision on this matter. But, I can tell you I worked for a Government Agency and the office "culture" was such that not only did I feel uncomfortable as the only minority, I was treated different because I did not rise through the ranks and those who had started lower (probably based don their experience) had zero interest in my success. I progressed despite of this and move onto another office.

      April 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Onegood1

    We really don't know if it was racism that caused the lack of an interview. There are alot of variables involved in matching a person with a position. Ideally our society would be colorblind and there would be no indication of race, creed, etc on jobs apps or periodic surveys. We all members of one race: the human race. Get over your color man.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Norm

    I felt bad reading the story and looking at the picture. Then I realized two things: the people in that picture are all models and that I felt bad for the black chick mostly cause she's hot.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
  21. MC

    Ever heard of writing your resume to the job you are applying for?? It is almost required now... meaning you don't put stuff on a resume that isn't directed to the job you are applying for. You should never submit the same exact resume/cover letter to every job you apply for. Job hunting 101. There have been numerous times we have passed over applicants because they were over qualified on their resume.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • me

      Over or under,

      Which one would be the better candidate to hit the ground running? The one presumed over qualified. It is a tough job market. So, a person needs to be a step above recent college graduate to get a job? Then you over work them at a salaried position?

      A Catch 22 for sure!

      April 16, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
  22. JMG

    Not sure why a lawsuit was needed. With a Masters, she can find another job and it is very difficult to prove discrimination over something that according to this article was not known for sure. The time and money is definitely not worth it. Especially if it is thrown out of court! I say start your own business to compete with theirs or something innovative.

    Outside of that, all this other racist stuff is sad, but typical. So to clear things up. Stereotypes do apply. But what people do not understand is CONTEXT! People never consider past, classisim, etc. They just lump specific behaviors to specfic groups, and the main reason why is because there are never balanced examples to prove there are good examples for every bad example. The other issue is that people know that, but CHOOSE to hand on to the negative because it accentuates their thinking.

    So with that said...I care less about people thinking ALL Black people, or even a large percentage fit into a specific pattern of life. I don't and I am Black. I am more interested in changing those are are then judging them from a distance. Especially when there are social breakdowns in every race. The ones in the Black race just seem to be put on grand stages too much, but given the history of this Country, it makes perfect sense! But c'est la vie...for now!

    April 16, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Swoowsh.

    Wow, you guys are retarted. The issue was the fact that LESS qualified whites were get jobs and MORE qualified blacks were not. That's just racism.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • realist

      Rephrase your question!!!! Overqualified people are being passed up for less qualified people. Why because the job does not require advanced traiining or degree. Many of us in positions to hire people pass on the overqualified candidates. They will not stay in the job and in some respects can be disruptive to the position. When your looking for a cog in the wheel you do not hire a visionary. it comes down to the best fit for the job. Lets stop acting like victems and be clever

      April 16, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Willian

        You cannot find out if a cog is a cog unless you see it. The young lady was not over qualified she just exceeded the minimum qualifications so she should have been granted an interview to see if she was a fit for the agency. The racism in this case is the fact that one of the candidates did not meet the minimum qualifications and was offered the job. Thus causing the playing field to be unlevel and that’s RACISM!

        April 16, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • rachel

      actually-the issue here is not race at all-she did not get the interview because she had such impressive credentials she probably had more degrees then the boss of the position she applied for. I have seen it many times, bosses get nervous hiring someone who may have more degrees and qualifications then they do- its like hiring your own replacement if something goes wrong. If you have more degrees and experience then the person you are about to work for, there is a very good chance they will not interview you- they will choose someone they can teach, over someone who might be able to teach them a thing or two.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • realist

      Its about being an overqualiifed worker not an over qualified black worker. Stop being a vitcem and get in line like the rest of us!!! you race baiters are so lost

      April 16, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • ronmexico99

      If she wasn't granted an interview, how did they know she was black??

      April 16, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      No. That is an intelligent hiring manager choosing candidates that won't leave in 3 months as soon as they get a better offer. She is overqualified for the job so she has no incentive to stick around. She is slumming it.

      It happens ALL the time. Mostly with overqualified older people.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • tom e

      I agree it happens every day and its called affirmative action. Whites are denied jobs, education and interviews because they are white. Thank you

      April 16, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Bill

    Why do blacks still not get it that they are 12% of the population and commit over 50% of the crimes.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cashun Please

      Because we know you are weak and inferior to us. We know that if it was'nt for the justice system, and discrimination, we could squash you like a bug Bill. See we know that without all these advantages, and on an even playing field, you have no chance against a blackman. I mean really Bill, if you look at a blackman and a whiteman toe to toe, with the same opportunities in life, the blackman will win 95% of the time. Your just oblivious to all the advantages you skin color allows you. Your never judged on your own merits because if you were you would realize how inferior you really are.

      April 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
  25. BS

    Why is someone with a Masters degree applying for a position that requires an associates? How many people are OVER qualified and are denied as a result? A lot. It's more likely they didn't hire her because she is overqualified than due to race, which is a different problem on it's own.

    April 16, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Liz Malone

      Jobs are hard to find you go for all jobs

      April 16, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • michaeldw

      People with as many credentials as Ms. Woods expect more money. Companies don't need to hire you. Who cares how qualified you are? Apply somewhere else. Move somewhere else.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Bill

    "Woods, who is black, was never granted an interview."

    Meaning the hiring managers never saw her? Soooo... Does Nansi regularly put "I AM BLACK" in big bold letters at the top of her resume?

    How did the racist white hiring managers know she was black? Crystal ball? Telepathy?

    April 16, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • sian rose

      Seeing all the half baked, ill conceived remarks here made me wonder; has any of the people here commented applied for a job in the last 10 years? There are Affirmative actions questions (race, gender, nationality, etc.) that accompany most applications, nowadays. Prospective employers can easily google someone's name to see a picture on a social networking profile or to find demographic information.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • realist

        Ms rose,

        Who has the time to google. Are you kidding me!!! I just went through a long job search. I have more than one degree and several certifications. I applied for jobs I was over qualified for. Over 20 jobs. Not one response. I removed many of my qualifications and I started to receive calls. The race baiters of the world need to stop looking for handouts and stop acting like victems. WE ARE TIRED OF IT!!!!! Your plight is over. Get in line like the rest of us.

        April 16, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        "There are Affirmative actions questions (race, gender, nationality, etc.) that accompany most applications, nowadays"

        www . iowaworkforce . org/centers/genericapp.pdf

        I don't see the race question on Iowa's application.

        "Prospective employers can easily google someone's name to see a picture on a social networking profile or to find demographic information."

        Link please. Since it was so easy?

        April 16, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        Thought I'd pop in and see if you got that link to Nansi's picture yet, to prove to me how easy it is.

        Nothing?

        April 16, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Tee

    She's just sour grapes. No one wants to hire criminals and that is the way they portray themselves everywhere.

    April 16, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dodd, T

      And you just portrayed yourself as white trash.

      April 16, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
  28. jason

    So now we are having lawsuits, as the article states, not about just overt racism, but because of subconscious racial preferences? Really? All because of some test that says that people subconsciously has a preference for whites? Really? Companies can't win for losing, because, by God, they better make sure in their hiring that some qualified black person isn't inadvertantly left out, because the damn political correctness police and the greedy lawyers, are ready there to make some claim of discrimination. They mince through the data and look at the percent of whites interviewed, vs blacks interviewed, etc TRYING to find any kind of disparity at all to then call it racism. And if they can't prove it, they try to judge the thinking of the hiring staff, without truly knowing what they think. A black person didn't get their way, must be racism, and here comes a lawsuit. It's unbelievable what is happening in this country.

    April 16, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • JUGGERNAUT

      nope.....there is a lawsuit because she has a master and experience in the filed, while one of the hired had NO DEGREE or EXPERIENCE in the filed.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • jason

        Simply because you have a Masters doesn't mean that you automatically get the job. Many people are turned away for being overqualified. And maybe they found a discrepancy in her work history on her application? Maybe the office made a mistake and truly accidentally overlooked her application. It happens all the time. Maybe she was fired from a job. Maybe her degree wasn't the degree that was an ideal fit for the positions. White people get turned down all the time and their seat given to unqualified blacks because of affirmative action and quotas. Never mind, of course, that blacks build up nothing and then offer their positions to whites. They are the real racists. They take take take and give very little to nothing back. And by god, don't ever inconvenience them, cause that is automatically racist.

        April 16, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        And how did the racist white managers, without ever seeing her, know she was black? From the article: "Woods, who is black, was never granted an interview."

        April 16, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Dave

    I'm sure the black employees would have no problem getting a job if they have white-sounding names and are mulatto hot models like the girl in your photograph. It's the ones with stereotypical black features and stereotypical black names that are discriminated against.

    April 16, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • JUGGERNAUT

      stereotypical black FEATURES????

      so i guess she should do a surgery and change her feature then, lmaO

      m0r0n.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        Are you trying to deny that Asians have a certain shape to their eyes?
        Are you trying to deny that Whites have paler skin than blacks?

        Yes, stereotypical black features. Get over it.

        April 16, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  30. JerseyGeorge

    Racism in a Red state? No surprise here.

    April 16, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Angryblackman

    so one black man needs a job and cant get one so all black people are that way? you just showed how racist you are. Not all black men are standing in a line waiting on a welfare check. In fact in PA you cant get a welfare check unless you are disabled and even then they give you a hard time. depends on the state. dont like the laws then move to that state and change them.

    April 16, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • ROGER

      Stereotypes are created by more than one individual. There is a definite pool of evidence demonstrating that a large percentage of black men do not have gainful employment.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • JUGGERNAUT

      @ROGER

      so then you agree that a larger percentage of whites are serial killers and pedophiles????

      April 16, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • realist

        That is true to be a succesful serial killer takes a higher level of intelligence

        April 16, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Angryblackman

    When i was young i was asked where i would travel if i had the chance. i chose many places but the one continent i totally overlooked and ignored was Africa. When it was pointed out to me I stopped to think about it. Then i was asked what i thought of as being beautiful and i described what could only be the poster child for irish women (red hair, green eyes, pale skin). What i came to realize is that during my years of exposure to media, books, comics, etc. that was what i was told was beautiful and going to suburban schools where often i was the only black person there meant i would eventually hit puberty and be attracted to the women or in that case girls i was exposed to. White was beautiful black was not. I overcame these issues as I am a logical person and a libra striving for personal growth but you can see that this bias is something we get from our environment. Like all things it can be overcome but it takes effort and acknowledgement. Most HR offices are filled with non-blacks and very rarely do they hire blacks for jobs that they do not see as being a black "role". being an HR professional who cant seem to get another HR job I understand it. I am a big black man and when people look at me they put me in whatever category they think i belong in. I was a computer, d&d nerd growing up. but i was 6'1 so i must be a basketball guy (WRONG) now I weigh 250 so i must have played football (WRONG) i abhore sports. but you get the point. i am rambling now...point is people see what they see and it takes effort to get past personal bais. The hardest thing is to prove to them that they have one.

    April 16, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      "as I am a logical person and a libra striving for personal growth"

      neat. I'm logical too and my astrological sign says you're an idiot.

      "Most HR offices are filled with non-blacks"

      And just how many HR offices have you worked in? Or did you find some survey to back your claim?

      "I am a big black man and when people look at me they put me in whatever category they think i belong in"

      Oh I see. Being white, I'm immune. I telepathically project to everybody what category I should be in.

      "The hardest thing is to prove to them that they have one."

      Neat. I have a bias because I'm white and just didn't know it. Very logical of you. Not racist at all.

      dolt.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • A

      Not to belittle anything you said in the slightest, but your skin color is probably not the reason, or at least probably not the sole reason, you are asked about athletics. I have a tall white friend that is a swimmer, but because he's nearly 7 feet tall everyone assumes basketball. I have a non-athletic female friend, 5'10", that everyone assumes played basketball or volleyball despite the fact that she never played a sport (also white). There's a bit of a bias where if one has the body for certain athletics, it's assumed they chose to use it for such.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • tom e

      The problem here is she could not spell her own name. It's Nancy not Nansi..

      April 16, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • sarahh

      Really? I wanted to go on Safari my entire life. I have pale skin and freckles and most of my life I thought it would be prettier to have dark skin like my friend. My brother is also very big and is educated for an HR job but had to go into something else as no one saw him in that position. I believe there is a media bias, but I also think when people question what they really want, the answers are surprising.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Charles

    As a self respecting black man I'm hoping that video was fake. Probably wishful thinking though.

    April 16, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
  34. cc

    "You have to assume it is in the room" Guilty until proven innocent? That's about as un-American as you can get, isn't it?

    April 16, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charles

      You shouldn't assume it's in the room. But I don't think it's wrong to "read" the room. What would you think if you walked into a room of black people and they all stared at you, some overltly, some discreetly. You don't have to assume that their racist but I don't think it's a stretch to say that they're staring at you because you're white. They're just noticing the difference. People aren't as discreet about showing their surprise as one might think.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        Too many typos in my reply. No one else may have noticed but I did. Surprise, a black man who proofreads. Just joking. Everyone needs to lighten up. We can do that with each other you know. Just an educated exchange of ideas here.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Charles

    Blacks just need to feel more in control of their own destiny's. Look, I am normally in predominantly white settings and it can feel like I get lots or curious looks when I walk in a place. I don't really care though. To be honest, I think white people aren't used to seeing a black man who is professionally dressed and has manners. We exist but we are seen much less frequently than black guys who may dress and act otherwise. So what am I to do? I just be myself. I was raised right so I know that there is nothing wrong with me. I feel like we as black people are too insecure about ourselves. Got to toughen up.

    April 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • JUGGERNAUT

      what does insecurity has to do with not being hired because of your skin color???

      you got to get your head out of the sand.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        I'm saying that we as blacks sometimes think we don't get hired because of our skin color and it could be more than that. Sometimes it's not that. We think too negatively about ourselves simply because of our color. We're projecting our own discomfort with being a minority on others. That's the insecurity I'm talking about. If we don't get hired is it always because of our color? There could truly be something we need to work on to become more hireable.

        My dad was an advocate for black people his entire life. His career was being a minister of predominantly black churches and also working in politics. He was a city councilman and worked for the mayor's in various cities where we lived.

        He didn't get where he got by being a complainer. He conquered all. My point is that we as blacks just don't seem to be comfortable in our own skin. We need to toughen up but we can't accpect criticism from others or other blacks.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • JUGGERNAUT

        @Charles

        dude...maybe you think negatively of yourself, but i don't.

        the people who refused to hire just base on skin color think negatively of blacks. now this women had a masters and all the other qualification needed, one of the applicant who got hired had NO DEGREE and NO experience, but he still got hire over the person who had a MASTER and experience on the filed. NOW this is about race.

        SPARE me your rainbow stories, we do not live in a fantasy world, this is the real cold world.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        Maybe it was in another post but I said my comments were not about the facts of this case but about getting hired in general.

        If I thought negatively about myself I would only limit myself to being in black environments. I go everywhere because I'm comforttable being there. I'm talking about the black people who limit themselves to one side of town because of the "people stare at me when I'm over there mentality."

        I'm just not in too excuses. I find answers to my problems whethere it's dealing with someone who might be racist or anything else. I don't let anything stop me from getting where I want to go.

        My heads not in the sand. It might be in the clouds. And if so good because I'm headed upwards and trying to get some black people to come with me.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • JUGGERNAUT

        @Charles

        lmao..........what about whites who limit themselves to one place because they dont want to live near anyone aside from other whites??? where are your negative comments regarding those whites???

        dude....your comment and reasoning is one sided.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        "what does insecurity has to do with not being hired because of your skin color???"

        Nansi Woods was never granted an interview. That is in the article.

        So, without ever seeing her, how did the hiring managers discriminate against her based on race?

        April 16, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        Dude – Don't you see I'm not concerned about them? I'm trying to get us not to worry about them. Don't seek acceptance from anyone. Just do your thing. You can't reason with people who don't even want to admit they have a problem so I don't worry about them. I just do my thing.

        April 16, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • ROGER

      Bravo.. only reason people discriminate is because either A., they have expectations that are based on general stereotypes that have been created over years or B., those discriminating are doing so because they feel inferior themselves and use discrimination to make themselves feel superior to something or someone.. it's a crutch..

      I don't care what color a person's skin is as long as he or she acts in a manner and dresses in a fashion that I find acceptable to my culture.. Yes you can say I have a cultural bias. but that is not a racial bias.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
  36. k

    Not that was funny!

    April 16, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pinolera

      I am Hispanic. Educated and speak three languages. I was sent to the corporate headquarters of the company I worked for to interview for a higher position. There were four people in the room and all were white. One of them proceeded to talk about how the white man is in the minority in this country and how this country was going down hill because of it. The head interviewer was a male. He never asked questions, wasted my time and just talked about "the white man" being wronged. In the end I did not get the job. Someone "white" did.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • thisisgettingold

        There's so much BS in this statement that it must be sarcasm.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pope

      There is no indication that the employer had any clue that the applicant/plaintiff is black. She didn't get an interview. There has to be some evidence that the reviewer knew she was black in order to prevail in her specific case.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Charles

    My comment is necessarily about the facts of this case but more about getting hired in general. I will preface this by saying that I don't expect all blacks or whites to agree with me. Now...

    I'm getting tired of talking about race but I'll chime in anyway. I'm a 42 year old black man and I've never felt that I didn't get a job because of my color. I'm actually a very good interviewer and the times I haven't gotten a position I can look back to the interview and remember where I may have not answered a question well.

    At the same time, I've definitely talked my way into positions that I wasn't qualified to have. I feel like once I get in the room with the interviewers, if I'm on my game, I have just as good a chance as anyone. Although, I can't say that racism doesn't exist, I can say I've ever felt it in the workplace. I feel like I've gotten looks of surprise from people who were surprised to see a fairly young looking black man in a professional position with some true responsibility, but who cares. And in fact, considering that in most of the companies I've worked in there haven't been many black men period, I can see why they would look surprised to see me.

    We as black people can change that by becoming more hireable and getting in more professional positions. We have to realize that we are hireable but we have to know the rules of the game and play by them. Speak well, dress neatly, show you have some manners, know your stuff = get hired. You may not get every position but you will get one of them.

    Positive thinking does wonders

    April 16, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • me

      awesome comment

      April 16, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • JUGGERNAUT

      DUDE......your whole comment is stupid.

      the point is that she was more qualified than the two other person, but they still got the job.

      get your head out of the sand.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        My whole point is don't give in. I haven't gotten every job I've applied for but I never gave up. That's it. I'm trying to keep blacks from getting discouraged. We seem to do that and then get stuck in place. I'm just saying, "keep it moving."

        April 16, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • JUGGERNAUT

        @charles

        she has not given up, she is just bringing to justice people who overlooked her experience and degrees and only focused on her race.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        If she feels this is what she needs to do that's fine. Once again, my posts are not in regards to the exact specifics of her case. I'm just trying to let black people know that we can get hired. Let's not take this incident, and others like it, and say "they won't hire" me all the time.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Corey

      Charles, thank you for your comments. Too often these days when someone doesn't get hired, they immediately point to race or gender for the reason they were not hired. Even a white male will use it, saying that he wasn't hired because of affirmative action. Instead, these people should look at themselves...how did they dress for the interview, did they speak clearly and concisely, and did they appear confident and knowledgable. Showing up in jeans and a t-shirt for a job interview or talking like you never passed 3rd grade grammar class is a sure fire way to not get the job. People in general need to stop making excuses and start pointing the finger at themselves for their problems. Only then can things start to improve.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • mema

        Hello corey maybe she would have had a really good interview if she had gotten one! She didnt get that far. Geez.

        April 16, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ruth Calhoun

      You are beyond naive and still relatively young.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        Nope.

        My whole point is don't give in. I haven't gotten every job I've applied for but I never gave up. That's it. I went to school with lots of other blacks guys just like me so I know I'm not the only one. I'm trying to keep blacks from getting discouraged. We seem to do that and then get stuck in place. I'm just saying, "keep it moving."

        April 16, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • backfist

      Love it when anonymous "Black men" capitulate to stereotypes, and then advise others to do the same.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tdubya

      Thats all good but the issue is getting your foot in the door. You are not the only African American male who is capable of speaking well and wowing the interviewer with the complete package. There are countless others who haven't even been given the opportunity to showcase their talents. Your comment is problematic because it suggest that the majority of African Americans have had the same opportunities you have been afforded and that is simply not true. Racial bias, discrimination and prejudice exists in this country and will continue because people like to act as if it is no longer an issue. Kudos to you on your success but don't assume that just because it wasn't as difficult for you that there aren't obstacles for others.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • Charles

        My whole point is don't give in. I haven't gotten every job I've applied for but I never gave up. That's it. I went to school with lots of other blacks guys just like me so I know I'm not the only one. I'm trying to keep blacks from getting discouraged. We seem to do that and then get stuck in place. I'm just saying, "keep it moving."

        April 16, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
  38. backfist

    "The plaintiffs' attorneys say the discrimination is not necessarily a result of overt racism. They say the discriminatory hiring was often the result of implicit bias – an unconscious preference of the mostly white hiring officials for white applicants over black applicants."

    Why is it, that in 21st century America, we still have "mostly White hiring officials"?

    April 16, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • thisisgettingold

      Maybe because most of the country is white? Blacks aren't even the largest minority in this country....

      seems common sense to me....

      April 16, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • backfist

        Maybe in Iowa. But in Atlanta? Miami? New York? San Francisco? Detroit? D.C.?

        April 16, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • thisisgettingold

        In the 'country'. The article is about Iowa, so it's pretty obvious why it's mostly white hiring officials. If you take the national average....it's still going to be mostly white. Of the cities you listed, guess what....It's still higher % white just not in the city limits. Those places have a high population of 'projects' that, yes, are predominately black, but I doubt any of those are qualified for hiring positions...

        April 16, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • maxine

        I don't believe the majority of the country will be white for long!!!

        April 16, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
  39. pauler

    all repubes are racists

    April 16, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
  40. k

    I see there are a lot of ignorant post on here. I am bi-racial. And I have black hair,blue eyes and look white! But my father is black. I hear and see everything from both sides. Everyone has there own personality so don't stereotype.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • JUGGERNAUT

      get out here with the "both side have the same thing" crap.

      white discriminate more than blacks.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
  41. James Allen

    The one-sided reporting of CNN and all the other liberal news outlets is ridiculous. Are you aware that blacks commit more crimes against whites than vice versa? Of course you are but you intentionally censor this fact because of political correctness. For every Trayvon Martin there's a white woman raped by some black man or a white man robbed at gunpoint by a group of black youth but you dare not report this fact to the public. It's against the law to point out statistics that would make a minority group look bad. America is doomed, as is Western Civilization as a whole, because of liberal policies.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kibbo Elm

      Citation needed, Jamie.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Charles

      So your problem is with political correctness? I'm just trying to make sure I follow why you are pointing out crime statistics in an article that's about hiring. Are you just tired of blacks complaining or stating something else? I edited my last sentence because I don't want to put words in your mouth but...once again...are you railing against political correctness and blacks complaining? Or do you not like blacks because you feel they commit more crimes than others?

      April 16, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chad

      Maybe you shouldn't point the finger at blacks, but at the law enforcement agencies who force them into a life of crime once they reach young adulthood. Kids of all races go through a stage of wanting to be above the law, but blacks are caught more because that's all the cops are watching.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ruth Calhoun

      Where are you getting your facts? What reports, what statistics? You have nothing to back up your claims. If you're going to vilify the entire black race, at least take time to gather information to back it up. I am tired of conservatives always blaming black people for having the nerve to exist. As for segregation, it did not end until the 1960's, not the 1860's. That is a fact unlike anything you wrote in your post.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • mema

      This is about not getting a job based on race. What does crime statistics have to do with that? If you want to open than bag then statistically there are more whites on welfare, more whites teen pregnancy, more white serial killers! So what! Get on subject and off your soap box.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  42. realist

    Could it be that she was overqualified for the position. They would then have to pay her more for her masters. Typically I do not hire overqualified positions for jobs. The fact that she is pushing the race issue is pathetic. What she needed to do was take her Masters degree off her resume and they probably would have looked more favorably at her

    April 16, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brother Man from the 5th Floor

      Yea right! Believe some BS like this! Take her Master's off her resume like she didn't earn it huh? You Devils are a trip and you wonder why people hate this country? Hypocracy, is the word of the day!

      April 16, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Taysha

        I believe you were looking for the word "hypocrisy"

        By all means, keep a masters in your resume, but don't apply to entry positions. The company will either have to commensurate for your experience with money they don't have and can't afford, or decline to interview you.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Mel

    And yet more black people playing the race card. Nothing seems to make them happy. Tje slaves were freed, they're not segregated at the lunch counter anymore, they have equal rights now, there is affirmative action no. What more do they want? Stop crying racism because everytime you do, you're racial profiling. Not all white people have some sort of ulterior motive. Stop segregating yourselves with the Miss Black USA pageant or the NAACP.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kibbo Elm

      This case seems to be the one where the so-called "race card" is justified.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ruth Calhoun

      Segregation ended in the 1960's, not the 1860's. The NAACP was created 100 years ago because blacks had no rights–including the right to vote. Let's not discuss the lynchings that occurred from the end of the Civil War until the late 1950's, early 60's. Congress literally had to pass a law, the Voting Rights Act, before black people could vote. People were killed for trying to vote. These things did not happen hundreds of years ago, more like less than 50. Jim Crow segregation was the law of the land. A black person could not drink from the same water fountain as whites, could not use the same bathrooms as whites, could not be served in whites only eating establishments, could not buy a home in a white neighborhood –the list goes on and on. Some cities had what were called "sundown" laws, which meant black people could not be on the streets after the sun went down or they would be arrested or worse. Learn some history. So excuse us for not jumping for joy for coming to this country as slaves over 300 years ago and then having to wait another 100 years after slavery ended to be treated like human beings.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • mema

      Really carl, she has a masters degree, a bachlors degree, a minor degree and experience. I would say that she has alot more education than youself. Id say she can do more than so called playing the race card. She worked hard to get where she is at. She has a right to feel angry for not even getting an interview. Geez.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Scott Allen

        agreed. That sure seems like bias for the incident above. Anyone who doesn't admit to some profiling in hiring is lying through their teeth. If I have two youths interview for a job, one in khakis and dress shirt, one in a jeans hanging off his hiney and a hoody, who do you think I'm going to inherently favor? Now that everyone has assumed the kid in the hoody is black, I was thinking they were both white. Isn't it interesting how we jump to conclusions? G'day all.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • maxine

      very true, Mel. I have often wondered why there is a Miss Black USA... no way white ladies could join them, huh?

      April 16, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
  44. DBSaint

    So now we're supposed to identify and change an unconcious behavior that is common to all animals...to identify more favorably with someone who looks similar to ourselves? Come on people, what' next, "I can read minds and according to my tarrot cards I can tell you didn't hire canditate X becuase they were black!" What a joke.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Exploitive, clueless Klan guy

    Whoa! " Unconscious Bias?" Mine was slightly more financial exploitation as I sit in at Klan meetings.
    You see, I own the laundry business that washes their sheets ( a very dirty business).

    April 16, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • v84960

      That was freakin hilarious!

      April 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Tyler

    What about all the scholarships that are awarded that go to black people instead of white when the white kid is clearly more qualified than the black kid. I have seen too many black kids waste away scholarships when they were clearly not intelligent enough to be at the school.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ruth Calhoun

      What about all the scholarships that went to white students because black students weren't allowed to attend the school – see the University of Alabama, the University of Mississippi? And how do you know they weren't qualified? Were you on the admissions committee? Did you see their SAT scores? Did you see their grades? Did you interview them? Did you personally give these students an IQ test? It's so easy to make generalizations from your vast superiority.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tyler

        Well if three out of the four that I know didn't make it past the freshman year, why yes I can say that they were not qualified and could did not even try. Shameful it is.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • mema

      Almost all of those scholorships for black students come from black owned companies and African American citizens. They donate money to help other blacks go to college. Any one who donates can choose what programs they would like to help. If you feel certain whites should get scholorships then donate to those. It has to be said that people of all races throw away scholorship money for lack of trying or just plaim laziness.

      April 16, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tyler

        Its is illegal to donate to a "White only" scholarship.

        April 16, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse |
  47. slowson

    What time is the Al Sharpton parade?

    April 16, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gina

      Hopefully on the way! 🙂

      April 16, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
  48. IbanezBassist

    It does not say where Nansi obtained her degrees in comparison with the other candidates. I am sorry, but I am unable to accept degrees from University of Phoenix without a grimace on my face. Online degrees as such are a joke.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • carl47

      You don't have any ideal what you are talking about

      April 16, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethernet

        I will NEVER even finish reading a resume from someone with an online degree, let alone hire them. 99% of them are fake, and the other 1% are jokes.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Where's the "joke"?

        University of Phoenix is a third-rate diploma mill. No one with an IQ over room temperature takes their degrees seriously.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • IbanezBassist

        Said the guy with a University of Phoenix degree.

        April 16, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • OregonBuckeye

      I can't help but think just how many inept people such as yourself sit behind a computer espousing rhetoric when they have not a clue as to what they're speaking of.

      Whether you like it or not, more and more universities are migrating towards the online classroom concept. It's convenient for those who work and go to school. Having taken BOTH, online and in-class courses, I've personally found that the online courses tend to require more readings, coursework.

      Try another angle. Your argument is not cogent.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • k

        Thanks for educating the uneducated!

        April 16, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kibbo Elm

        But he's meaning for profit universities like University of Phoenix, and NOT legitimate univesities offering classes online

        April 16, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • IbanezBassist

        Yes, I too have taken both online and lecture based courses from an actual, traditional brick and mortar university. I disagree with you and must say online classes are easier than lectured classes (at least the classes I took). Furthermore, I was not referring to real Universities adopting online classes rather pseudo universities (i.e., University of Phoenix). However I could see how a Buckeye was not able to read and fully comprehend my statement like some others were and ineptly pointed out to you.

        April 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • k

      What idiots you all are! University of Phoenix offers does not only offer online degrees but you can attend on campus also! I have seen a lot of people going there for their master's or doctorate. Some of their teachers are from the best schools like John Carroll University and Case Western Reserve. Do you research before you speak!

      April 16, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Not So anonymous

      Tell that to the people who graduate from the Harvard Extension School (Proud Alum)

      April 16, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ruth Calhoun

      You are grasping at straws. You don't know where Nansi receive her degrees. Secondly, the other applicant that was offered the job had no degree, no experience and no computer skills. How do you justify that? Your bias is not subtle at all, it's loud and clear. You clearly believe black people are inferior to white people in every way. If Nansi had a Ph.D., it would not be good enough for you.

      April 16, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • IbanezBassist

        Really? Where in my statement did I claim bias against Nansi for being black? I questioned the origin of her degree, I would do that for anybody-you put those words in my mouth to turn my statement into something it was not. I can see great irony in your post in lieu of the article.

        April 16, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • maxine

      I kinda feel the same way!!!!

      April 16, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Tom Noren

    if this case had any merit the EEOC would be handling it instead of a lawfirm.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethernet

      Your spot on

      April 16, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • carl47

      I Agree

      April 16, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • backfist

      Not necessarily. There have been plenty of verdicts and plaintiff settlements reached without the EEOC bringing suit. As long as the EEOC issues a "right to sue" letter, the plaintiff are off to the races (no pun intended).

      April 16, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
  50. K3citizen

    Here's a question for No Name: What if a black person who spoke Ebonics called and wanted to spend their money at your company called, who would they speak to? Do you turn away their money because of their speech? If you do then you are too dumb to be in business. If you do take their money then why don't you hire people who represent your customers?

    April 16, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • ciscokid

      Thats a big non sequitor

      April 16, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • scott

      I would ask the caller to speak proper english during the duration of the call. Ebonics is nothing but a 'language' made up to support lazy parenting.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • carl47

        I would do the same

        April 16, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • mema

        No self respecting company would ask a prospective customer to change the way they talk. Why bring up ebonics at all? There are people of all races from diferent areas of the country who are difficult to understand, cajun for example. Your own bias is reflective in your comment. If her education met the job requirements she should have been given an interview at the very least.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • sthflachk

        Actually.....I once thought the same way and then I read a book for my African American Anthro class called "Africanisms in America". It talks about all the things that are "American" that were brought here by the African slaves. For example black eyed peas and the dance known as the Charleston, I could go on and on and on but I won't. Anyway, one chapter is about linguistics – When "Ebonics' is put side by side the Bantu language (to name one) there are similarities in sentence structure and usage. In fact, the English language has appropriated quite a few African words and applied usage, such as the us of Aunt and Uncle for someone not of the family but a close friend. My conclusion after reading this was to liken it to immigrants from South America or Germany, who use their first language at home exclusively and use English outside of the home when learned or needed. If their parents and Grandparents speak this way in the home they do not find it wrong but normal. There is division among the black community whether or not they "lose' themselves or "act white" when speaking "proper" English according to interviews I have seen on the subject.

        I know it was a long post but thought I would share my knowledge with you since I once felt it was just a lazy, uneducated way to speak as well.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Serious Person

    I've got to say, I've worked with some people that look fabulous on paper, but the reality is not so fabulous. A great resume or experience can sometimes mean absolutely nothing.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  52. K3citizen

    The people in Iowa can't even agree on which Bozo to send to the RNC so why would anyone expect them to follow the laws of the land.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  53. newshead12

    This country is racist and it most likely will not ever REALLY change. However, no one is holding anyone here by gunpoint either.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rick

      Exactly, racist people should just leave the country. Nobody is forcing them to stay here.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Tom Noren

    i worked in HR for big company for 5 years, and we always prefferred to hire people who just barely met the qualifications of the job.

    over qualified applicants statistically will jump ship the first chance they get. they know they are not being paid what they are worth and are constantly putting out applications.

    its very expensive to train a new person, and then they just jump ship 7 months later. these costs add up.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Angryblackman

      Which is always the perfect exuse not to hire them. Black people with education have had to become overqualified to even get looked at for jobs in the first place and now we dont get hired because of the thought that we might leave. that is bogus bias bs. bottom line is anyone offered a better job with better pay will leave. and we should all have some form of ambition to want to get better jobs and not sit and become complacent in a low paying position. so we dont get hired cause we are overqualified just like we didnt get hired cause we were under qualified. same old crappy excuse.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tom Noren

        considering an HR person never knows the color of the applicants skin i guess you wrong. you cant tell skin color on a resume

        April 16, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • theshizit

        Kinda what I thought when I was passed over for a black guy with less qualifications because of affirmative action.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • scott

        More like whiningblackman. 😉

        April 16, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • realist

        The same thing happened to me and I am white. My solution I took my masters off my resume and got hired. Its about being clever not being a victem.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
  55. MikeT

    The story here is not that Black people were passed over for jobs and promotion. The REALY story here is that there are apparently 6000 black people living in IOWA! I find that hard to believe. 6 maybe, but certainly not 6000. Must be a typo.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • ciscokid

      And all 6000 applied for the same job and didn't get it. No wonder they're being sued

      April 16, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • theshizit

      You would be wrong. Iowa has a crime rate also.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • ciscokid

        ah, i stand corrected

        April 16, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  56. zeitgeist

    To everyone pointing to Nansi's possible overqualification as an explanation – you do realize this is not an individual case but rather a class action based on a statistical pattern of less favorable employment decisions for blacks? Explaining away just Nansi doesn't invalidate the entire suit. Unless every black was overqualified for every position involved.

    April 16, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethernet

      All a class action proves is that everyone else that was black that didn't get a job because they were over/under qualified or interviewed bad or had a problem with their resume can now jump on the band wagon and get a peace of that juicy milk cow.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom Noren

      they just got every black person that did not get hired to join the lawsuit when they advertised it.

      its all about he lawyers making some money. a case like this takes almost 20 years, so the lawyers want as many people in it as they can get. so they get a big settlement. most will goto the lawyers...big payday for law firm.

      the 6000 will get about 100 dollars each

      April 16, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • theshizit

      Unless they saw free money and all jumped on the bandwagon.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
  57. rc

    in the case of the first subject, it sounds like she was over qualified for the position. it's not fair, or necessarily right, but in this economy a lot of employers what someone who will be comfortable in the position and stay in it for awhile. someone with her background might have scared employers away because they assume she will go for positions/salary more suited to her experience and education after being hired

    April 16, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
  58. twang

    There is alot of information on an application.Maybe she put down that she has sued everyone she has ever worked for, for "racial discrimination"

    April 16, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  59. esoteric1

    MAN no way I wouldn't hire the black chick in the picture she is SMOKIN!!!

    April 16, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • yahman

      I wonder how he roles them up?

      April 16, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • esoteric1

      No I didn't say "i want to smoke her" I said she "is smokin" as in smokin hot....or for those of you with no mojo...She is extremely attractive.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • ciscokid

      My bad

      April 16, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • yahman

      I guess that explains how he rolls em......

      April 16, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Verity

    And this is exactly why my child will not be applying to Grinnel College. Oh hell, no! Pretty country, but some call it fly-over country, for good reason it would seem.

    April 16, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • esoteric1

      goin to school there does not mean they have to work there....Iowa State is one of the best Eng. schools in the country, good sports too!

      April 16, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • skradepa

      Verity – the President of Grinnell College (Raynard S. Kington) is black. (And openly gay, not that it matters.)

      http://www.grinnell.edu/offices/president/about-kington

      April 16, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Ethernet

    Ah no, we don't need any more racist crap

    April 16, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  62. hatruth

    The burden of proof is on the plaintiff to prove there was in fact blatant discrimination. I believe the part about unconscious or subconscious bias against a certain racial group is one, complete crap, and two, doesn't hold up in court. Even, if you could prove an unconscious bias exists, isn't then possible that Black people have an unconscious bias for believing that anything negative that happens to them, happens because they are black?

    It's a shame this women didn't get the job, but like other commentators have said, there are other factors besides qualifications that go into the decision to hire someone. Also, it's possible she was over-qualified for the job (many companies don't hire such people for fear of them getting bored on the job by doing "lesser" work). Overall, it's going to be difficult for this particular person to prove she was the victim of racial discrimination (unless there is more evidence that hasn't been disclosed).

    April 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Sunflower

    So can I sue for "affirmative action"?

    April 16, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethernet

      Oxymoron

      April 16, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Mensaman

    The article itself is biased because you only gave the prosecution's argument. What is the argument of the defense? What data do they show? There are affirmative action and equal hiring laws in the state like most other states. What is the data on companies/agencies within the state violatiing those?
    I guess we must hire only on the basis of a candidates "on-paper" credentials and forget about the job interviews, background checks and references. Ironic that an article on equality and fairness could be so un-equal and unfair.

    April 16, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • IbanezBassist

      "Mensaman" . . . it is fun to pretend.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Daveil

    Only goes to show that lawyers will sue anybody to make a buck and pull in whatever extraneous bull they can to justify their suit. The obvious answer to why Nansi Woods' application was ignored is because she was greatly over qualified with a Master's degree when applying for a job requiring merely an associate's degree or a GED certificate. It's like a master plumbler applying for a job as a plumber's apprentice.

    April 16, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  66. ms ella

    we are not going any where so get jesus cause hateful mongos will always be around thats there life.

    April 16, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethernet

      School much?

      April 16, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
  67. 1ofTheFallen

    I own a small business and what many people do not realize is that it comes down to more than qualifications. We always call former employers and ask if they would hire this employee back if they could. If the answer is NO then it usually means they are a risk and possibly not a good employee. If you get more than 1 NO then we would not hire then for zero pay. They are a major problem. If the answer is YES then we know they did a good job and are less of a risk. Usually no hidden mine fields. If you get more than 1 Yes then we go out of way to hire them.

    How you worked for former employers is far more important than qualifications. Given this environment a person is usually competing with at least 1 or more equally qualified applicants.

    April 16, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • DamnDesert

      I grew up in Iowa, there is a good chance there is merit to this case.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        I grew up in Iowa and disagree

        April 16, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
  68. snowdogg

    "A class action suit filed in 2007"... swift justice – NOT!

    April 16, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Chazz

    Went to Hughes Networks for an interview back in 1994. I am black and the HR representative welcomed me in with open arms. They liked my resume, capabilities and all. The economy at that time was pretty much like it is now..in the toilet...people were looking for what they could get. They ask me what my salary requirements were and I responded I was hoping for something in the mid range of what the position was paying...sort of evasive. Then they next asked me for my salary history...evasive as I could. When pressed I had to tell them what I was making at my last job for 7 years....they said that was way too much and I would probably leave as soon as i found something better. This is true...but you can't blame me for trying.....

    April 16, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Ken

    Linda Pippen seems like a pretty white name. How could they tell she was black from the resume?

    April 16, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cedar Rapids

      dont forget the case talks about being passed over for promotion as well, she could have been one of those passed over.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • MRN32

      You need to read that first paragraph again.
      "According to her resume, Nansi Woods looked like a good fit for the job"

      April 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Pippen, like so many, has several public-facing Internet sites: facebook, linked in, etc. It's easy to see that she is a minority by her church (African Methodist), her schools, etc. Anyone who is hiring and who has any sense, knows to check the Internet.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Disagree

    I took that IAT test and what a waste!!! Of course everyone is going to prefer white.. the way the test is structured, you go through 4 rounds of automatic responses with the 'good' things being on the right on the LAST round, they switch it and the bad, white things are on the left and when you respond wrong, it shows you favor white... no wonder even the african americans preferred whites. I say do the test the opposite way and see what results you get – stupid waste of my time!!

    April 16, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • PP

      It is called counterbalancing. These tests were normed on people doing them in every possible order to make sure there are were no differences, which was what was in fact found. Perhaps try learning a thing about research before making assumptions about why it is invalid. There is an incredible amount of research showing the IAT is valid across a number of populations and conditions.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  72. LPWack

    Note the link to the IAT website. Read the disclaimer there. It points out the potential to ABUSE the results of the test, by, for example, using it to judge others or their behavior. I suspect the defense will be able to use the test developers as expert witnesses. I believe the lady was passed over for an interview because she was deemed over-qualified based on her resume.

    April 16, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Bagheera

    Implicit bias is unfortunately present in most Americans toward blacks. What is worse is that explicit bias is present among a frighteningly high number of people, as well. This is not news to African-Americans.

    April 16, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  74. no name

    I did a round of hiring for my company's help desk. We had many applicants from a national vocational school. Many of these applicants were changing careers, having been recently laid off. I was very much for helping someone who was trying to help themselves and encouraged managment to consider them. The response was – forget it. I convinced them to let me do phone screenings and call in anyone I thought might work. I called 30 people. Not one of the 30 would have been acceptable for the position because a lack of professional manner on the phone. The job was to answer questions over the phone, so this was crucial. Most spoke ebonics or some variation of that. I would bet money that a good number of those applicants were black and yes, we hired two whites. But it all came down to who would represent the company well when a customer called in with a question.

    April 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Al Sharpton

      You be all rassis and shid.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • k

      Well, I guess that would go for the Phillipine people, spanish, russian, yugoslavian, german, italian french, who all may have an accent. Would they not be good representation for you company either?

      April 16, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • k

        What an idiot you need to be fired! LOL!

        April 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Sounds like you hired based on just voice. Sould like racism to me.

      April 16, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Greenspam

    Something doesn't smell right. No one puts his/her race on the resume, right? So, why would she NOT be given an interview based only on her resume? How could it be race related? Nanci Woods is hardly an African American sounding name here...

    April 16, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      For the same reason black people say "axe" instead of "ask". Except this is done on a much deeper psychological level.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greenspam

      @Mike, I have no idea what you are talking about.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        That's exactly how they want you to feel. My cousin worked on one of these tests so i've heard of it before. It's specifically designed, right down to the wording and the organization of the sentences to confuse black people. They've tested thousands of people and tweaked it constantly before it was released but it's very successful. It doesn't work well for people who come from mixed backgrounds though. If you want to discriminate against someone who's half black you have to use a little more tact.

        April 16, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cedar Rapids

      but Nansi is, and that apparently is her name, not Nanci.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • batjones

      There are multiple ways Greenspan – 1) Onsite application – The administrators see the person filing the application and then toss the application in the garbage; 2) Statistical Questionnaire – Often employers ask applicants to fill out a statistical questionnaire to comply with Affirmative Action policies, but then the employer uses that information (gender, race, age, disability, citizenship, miltary) to deny certain groups access to employment. The questionnaire is anonymous but it is submitted with the application; 3) The applicant's address – I know nothing about the residential patterns of Iowa, but I suspect there are pockets that are predominantly black or predominantly white. The banks are not the only industries that make use of redlining districts; 4) The resume – Although applicants may not state their race, they may include community affiliations that indicate race, or list references that are easily identifed. I am sure there are other ways if the employer does not want to hire members of a specific group.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • DaveLCAC

      Who be done dat?

      April 16, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Mike

    I hate to be the one to say it but if you name your kid Tyreek, Marquitta, Shalaundra, Jaqwon or Shereka you're basically telling the world not to ever hire your kid. I'm sorry but it's the way it is. It's extremely racist and I don't support it but, it's the way that it is.

    April 16, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greenspam

      But anyone can change their name nowadays... it's pretty easy really.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cedar Rapids

      i feel the same way about those stupid eyelet earrings or whatever they want to call them. We arent going to hire you in a professional business capacity if you come in wearing those things.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
  77. evrgreen

    Here's an example of why there were probably not hired: No common sense. How can they sue because they were not hired?? If they were hired: does it mean that all the other applicants should sue?? Their claim is so crazy.Employers don't only look at the degrees, they look at the whole package...it all comes does to what is convenient to them. And there is no rules to pick a person for ibnterview or to hire..

    April 16, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Now Why

      There are laws however that say you can't dismiss someone as an applicant because of their race. So when you have a culture that believes it is more "convenient for them to hire whites as opposed to blacks, then you have a proctice of racism in your hirirng process.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Plain Old Joe

    Maybe the fact that she was completely over qualified for the position, which is why she wasn't called into an interview, had something to do with it. I was passed over for several positions because I was over qualified and I happen to be W. Also considering that ones biased was subconscience and you have no control over that there is nothing that can be done about it. Just a money grab.

    April 16, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Greenspam

      I agree with you in the case of Nansi Woods. Obviously, the company would not be able to determine her race based on her resume. So, how could it be race-related. It does sound like she's overqualified.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Gert612

        But you are assuming that her resume is the only information they had on her. There may well have been other ways they could have learned of her race.

        April 16, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tom

        Overqualified is not a rational or legal reason to deny an interview. It's the same as saying "you have too much experience," in lieu of saying "you're too old." You just cannot do it. They determined her race by looking at her facebook pages or her Linked In page. Both clearly indicate her race.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ken

      Agree, she may not have gotten interview because she was over-qualified.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cedar Rapids

      Then again one of those not only interviewed but offered the job was working on their masters and had their bachelors as well.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • BS

        Maybe she bombed the interview.

        April 16, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Mike

    I didn't know there were black people in Iowa but that's besides the point. This is horrible if true, and it kind of looks like it is true. So yeah, it's pretty horrible.

    April 16, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • dev

      Mike, you did not know there were black people in Iowa and you think this news is horrible?

      April 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • kpete

      Wow, you sound pretty uneducated saying that...

      April 16, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  80. SebastionMeiers

    Nansi Woods, all I can say is: Welcome to the life of a white, male job seeker. Throw ageism into the mix and you will get the full experience. Ironic isn't it?

    April 16, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • yonyo

      Being discriminated against and black is hardly a new experience that popped up in the last recession.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
  81. jamesnyc

    I wish they would apply Implicit Association Test to Age Discrimination.

    April 16, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Thenextstep

    Havn't you people ever heard of being over-qualified..... Yes, it happens all the time.... A person who has to much experience and education will never get paid what they are worth for an otherwise low paying position...... So, they simply did not want to waster her time and the interviewers time..........

    April 16, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  83. ladyfon

    My question to these people that claim they did not receive an interview because they were black. How could a person decide if your were black or white through your resume? Did you put I am black across it?

    April 16, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Boo

      Good point.

      April 16, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Shalaundra, Yolanda, Marquita... Are those white names ? Do you see my point ?

      April 16, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Heather

      I was originally wondering the same thing. However, it was mentioned in the article about one of the people in the Employment office using a biased test to determine whether people should be interviewed. I haven't applied for a Govt job in Iowa, but I have applied for them in my own state and you DO have to take certain tests before they will consider you for an interview. So, I assume that was how they were "screening out" the African-Americans (if they actually were) and discriminating against them before they received an interview.

      April 16, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Donut Burger

      Really? You don't think a reasonable person could figure out someone's race by looking at their resume. People's last name, their backgrounds, groups and orgenization they affilate are all cules the piont to your background.

      April 16, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • twang

        Yeah, like where it says "fathers name" you put "unknown"

        April 16, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • kpete

      They have sections on the online application website where you can willingly disclose race, gender, etc. I've applied to many jobs on that website.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
  84. shootmyownfood

    Your reading comprehension is abyssmal. The woman used as an example at the beginning of the article WAS NEVER CALLED IN for an interview. How do you suppose body language came into play here?

    April 16, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • bowlkoff

      Have any of you heard of over qualified?????????

      April 16, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
  85. zulux

    You can say it's all in my head but the other day my unconscious bias got into a fight with my conscious bias like couple of four year old kids. I told them to quite down a bit but both of them ignored my command. Since I couldn't do anything about it I went to the bar. Although my conscious bias and I were having a great time drinking beers and talking to this chick, my unconscious bias was a party po0per and was keep nagging about something. So to quite it down I got some 420 to see if that would help. It did..but sadly now the conscious bias had the munchies so we said goodbye to that chick and went to Taco Bell and got like 20 99 cents tacos. Then I understood that even though my conscious bias and unconscious bias have their differences, they both like cheap mexican food. So there is hope for commonality folks. Let's all just get along and bring out the bong and play some ping pong.

    April 16, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • twang

      When their not getting along, try pokin em with a Q-tip

      April 16, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Sagebrush Shorty

    Well now she knows how the victims of Affirmative Action feel.

    April 16, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • TWM

      Excellent point

      April 16, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • deathwombat

      So two wrongs make a right? How is it her fault if some other person got a job due to affirmative action?

      April 16, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse |
  87. montyross

    Blacks 16% of population give 16% of jobs in each company. fair

    April 16, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      A strict quota like that is no where near fair. You should look to the number of college graduates from local universities that could field the postion. If only 2-3% of those are black then you should not hire 16% blacks. As an engineering major we had 3 women in our graduating class of 85 that were female. By your analogy an engineering firm would be "fair" only if their work force included 50% females. In reality, they should likely have 3% to be "fair".

      April 16, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Zack

      Has anyone tried the link to the test? Its absolutely silly. I've done more revealing questionaires on facebook,

      April 16, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  88. OKC

    I can tell you answer to this.....she was over qualified....I have been told the same thing here in OK.....top in in test score and never interviewed, 362 got the job. I and most of the others were over-qualified and they weren't wasting their time with some one who won't stay a year.
    I am a white male........it ain't right but it isn't unheard of.......

    April 16, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ethernet

      Spot on. Its not illegal to not hire to most qualified, but it sure is a crappy way to do business. And this might have been a blessing in disguise for her. If they are worried about money more than doing a good job, then my experience is that they would have been lousy people to work with/for.

      April 16, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
  89. Ethernet

    There is a bias all right, but its not race. Its over qualification. They didn't want to pay her what she was worth, even though she could prolly have done the job better. I've seen that over and over. Lets get someone with the minimum qualifications and train them in, that way they don't have to pay anything.

    April 16, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • shootmyownfood

      What is this word "prolly" I keep seeing in blogs. Is that some sort of white-trash contraction of "probably"?

      April 16, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ethernet

        LOL! and the racist trolls pop out!!!!!

        April 16, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sagebrush Shorty

        It's kind of like "mutha".

        April 16, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • twang

        "prolly" is how blacks say "probably"

        April 16, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Jorge

    Maybe the problem is with anti-discrimination laws. Employers have to be extra careful with whom they hire. If a white person is hired and doesn't work out, that person is fired and that's the end of it. If someone that is protected by anti-discrimination laws is fired, there is the potential for a lawsuit that most companies don't want to deal with. In the end, anti-discrimination laws hurt the people they are trying to protect.

    April 16, 2012 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  91. blah

    And in your little analysis what is your conclusion on the white people becasue you'd need that if you were a honest in your judgement isn't it. Other wise you already had a bias and found black people that fit your bias criteria to justify your thinking.

    April 16, 2012 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
    • Ethernet

      Non sequitor

      April 16, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  92. Hawkeyes

    So on PAPER, her EDUCATION was bettter. What about the rest of the resume? What about checks with previous employers, or a review of her annual evaluations? Was the type to just skate by and get an "acceptable" evaluation? was she the type to go above and beyond her stated "objectives" and earned "outstanding" ratings? has she been ther for quite some time? Or was she the type that switched jobs/companies every couple of years. I'm betting there is more out there than jsut EDUCATION.....smh...typical don't get your way scream racism!

    April 16, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • shootmyownfood

      It probably was the education. Can you say "over-qualified"?

      April 16, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • twang

        Can you say "affirmative action"

        April 16, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • kevin

      Um, they didn't even interview her, so they made their decision based on paper or on race. On paper she was better, so...

      April 16, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • otisross

      never will we be accepted in this country as being equal in anything but sports why oh why were your ancestors so lazy and picked their own cotton and the women taken care of their own kids but no they had too go to africa and bring my ancestors over to do their work and that started everything.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • ciscokid

        What makes you think your treated equal in sports? Why are all the pro ball teams that are majority black "owned" by rich white boys? HMMMMM???? Go figure that one out LOL

        April 16, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • Zack

        Hey Otis, its clear who the racist here is, YOU. The fact that your skin color alone allows you better opportunity in this country, such as scholarships, dibs on jobs, the ability to tell racist jokes without repercussion, etc etc, is proof enough that the only people this government holds down is poor white people. So go play the victim somewhere else, we know we're being punished for something rich white people did hundreds of years ago.

        April 16, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • christine

        Actually, otisross, Africans sold Africans. We didn't import them, they were brought to us to be sold by THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Al Sharpton

        If we'd known what you were like, we'd have picked our own cotton.

        April 16, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Oh ok..now since african-americans are getting the education, we can't say anymore well they are not properly educated..now we have to make sure what the last employer said...ok they were outstanding...now we have to check there criminal record...no criminal record....ok now we have to look into..etcetcetc. It's always an excuse to while other applicants are better than african-americans. even when they prove they have what it takes.

      April 16, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
  93. rjbirkett

    She never made it to the interview, so I don't think body language was a factor.

    April 16, 2012 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
  94. j

    To the last comment: While I do respect your honesty , the fact that you admit that you can not say that about every African-American is more important to me. From my point of view, I have seen MANY hard working african-americans. I do not know the specifics of what you base your stereotype on (namely how do you know all that they have or have not done? How did you have enough time to watch what they were or were not doing? Did you judge whites too or were you overly critical) just to name a few. I understand that everyone has an opinion, but my personal experiences have show hard working people.

    April 16, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
  95. twang

    Affirmative action makes her degrees worthless

    April 16, 2012 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
    • Boisepoet

      Ignorance on parade...

      April 16, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • yonyo

        Nah, it's textbook trolling.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • otisross

      we will never be anything too people like you that is why this country is hopeless i am getting to hate my own country iam going on eighty years old i thought things would one day get better but i for got the white ancestors of you people were slave holders.

      April 16, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • ciscokid

        80 huh? They say with age comes wisdom, i see you missed out on that one in school.

        April 16, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Al Sharpton

        80 years of parasitism. You're a problem that will solve itself real soon at least.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
  96. twang

    When you hire someone ,you have to be around that person for a long time.They become part of your life.Who wants to be around an angry black whos always looking for a reason to charge you with discrimination or racisim.(not to mention that they will probably steal from you) Your also ALOT more likely to be a victim of violence when you have a black around

    April 16, 2012 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Boisepoet

      And you have just proven the plaintiff's case.

      April 16, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Al Sharpton

        Blacks make up one-eighth of the US population but commit over half of the murders.

        Sound like Twang know what he be talking bout.

        April 16, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • kevin

      Um, if you're wondering why black people don't seem to like you, perhaps you should think about how you're coming across. I don't like people who judge me by appearance and are automatically hostile. Check YOUR anger at the door and you might learn that black people are just as fine or flawed as anybody else.

      April 16, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Boo

      All I can say to you is you reap what you sow.

      April 16, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • christine

      Twang = troll.

      April 16, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Really twang....I just saw a report that said most workplace violence are commited by whites and asians.

      April 16, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
  97. DisReverent

    Explicit race bias is a big problem, there is no dispute about that. Unfortunately, this "unconscious bias" does not sound like good science to me. Lie detector tests are not admissible evidence in a court case, so how good this unconscious bias, purporting to know what people "really think", be given any standing. Good grief, give me a break.

    April 16, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • PoBoy

      You must be from Kentucky or Texas. Your ingnorance is overwhelming!

      April 16, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • shootmyownfood

      Please read the entire article before commenting. There are studies, and many of them, to test for subconscious bias.

      April 16, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Pre-Biased

        We all have unconscious biasing about everything, it does not matter about your race or ethnic background. You see an old person, young person, black person, white person, certain model of a car, certain type of house, certain animals.... It does not matter your bias takes over; it is what you perceive. This is BS and all of the studies in the world cannot prove anything except that people are biased against people & things because of Perception.

        April 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • DisReverent

        I read the entire article. It may have shown signs of validity in academia but, IMO, comes nowhere close to being acceptable for deciding civil or criminal court cases. Same as with lie detector tests, for good reasons.

        April 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • gggg

        Yeah, I love IATs. I think they're kind of funny. As with all psychological profiling tools, if you know the purpose of the tool you can tailor your answer to influence the outcome, or, in the case of an IAT, tailor the timing of your answer to influence the outcome. So far I'd rather be around whites, I'd rather be around black, I like Rick Santorum and I find him abhorrent. I also prefer Obama to Santorum or Romney AND ...

        April 16, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Billy Dawg

    Wow look who is playing the race game now going to call the BLACK PANTHERS NOW Terrorism is illeagl remember

    April 16, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
  99. lyle branson

    if it is IAT , doesn't that mean it is unintentional , and how the majority of reasonable Americans would behave ? So basically with no intent is there a case ?

    April 16, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  100. she says what

    Is this a case where a white judge is being asked to make the decison on his/her own? Would the judge also take into consideration that he/she may have this underlying bias? Just asking.

    April 16, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
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