Undocumented immigrants face arrest as they proclaim, 'No papers, no fear'
Police arrest "No Papers, No Fear" bus rider Eleazar Castellanos on Tuesday in Charlotte, North Carolina. Castellanos was one of 10 charged with impeding traffic after refusing to leave an intersection near the site of the Democratic National Convention.
September 6th, 2012
07:00 AM ET

Undocumented immigrants face arrest as they proclaim, 'No papers, no fear'

By Sarah Aarthun, CNN

Charlotte, North Carolina (CNN) - They've traveled for nearly 40 days, risking arrest, or worse, deportation.

Their home for the past month: a 40-year-old converted Greyhound bus dubbed "Priscilla."

Among them are day laborers, students, stay-at-home moms and leaders of nonprofit organizations.

And at each stop along the way, in states with some of the most stringent laws against undocumented immigrants, they chant: "No papers, no fear. Dignity is standing here."

The group's cross-country journey ended this week in Charlotte, site of the Democratic National Convention.

The timing is strategic. Their goal while they're here is to call Democrats' attention to the need for comprehensive immigration reform.

The trip began July 29 in Phoenix - home to controversial Sheriff Joe Arpaio - and has taken them through 15 cities. Stops have included Denver,  Austin, Texas; New Orleans; Atlanta; Birmingham, Alabama; and Knoxville, Tennessee.

For Leticia Ramirez, the scariest portion of the cross-country drive came while traveling from Austin to New Orleans on a stretch of Interstate 10 known for police checkpoints.

She knew the bus, emblazoned with the words "No Papers No Fear," would be an obvious target to be stopped.

The 27-year-old mother of three had one fear: "I was thinking of my kids. I didn't know if I was going to see them again."

The bus made it through to New Orleans without incident.

"We knew the risk in joining this movement, why not risk it?" Ramirez said. "That's why we are here."

Efforts to call attention to the group's cause have escalated as the journey has progressed, beginning with quiet news conferences and cultural performances in Denver and growing to include sit-ins across the street from the Knoxville County Sheriff's Office in Tennessee.

On Tuesday, they made their biggest stand yet, taking over an intersection near the Democratic convention holding banners defiantly proclaiming, "Undocumented" and "Migration is a human right."

In all, 10 people were arrested and charged with impeding traffic, Charlotte police said. None faces deportation proceedings, said Ross Feinstein, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

"ICE has taken no enforcement action against the Ride for Justice activists arrested Tuesday in Charlotte," Feinstein said in a statement. "ICE is focused on smart, effective immigration enforcement that prioritizes the removal of criminal aliens, recent border crossers and egregious immigration law violators, such as those who have been previously removed from the United States."

The group said it planned the act of civil disobedience "because we are tired of the mistreatment. We are tired of waiting for change and we know that it never comes without risk or without sacrifice."

Among those arrested was 25-year-old Ireri Unzueta Carrasco. Unzueta, who lives in Chicago, has a familiar story. Born in Mexico City, she came to the United States when she was 7 years old after her father was offered a job. To be with him, Unzueta, her mother and sister made the trip on tourist visas.

When the visas ran out, "we had already started to make our lives here."

They stayed, but not without consequences. For Unzueta and her sister, being undocumented meant no access to financial aid for school. No scholarships. No opportunity to study abroad.

It also meant being away from their extended family in Mexico.

"There was always fear, knowing deportation is a risk," she said. "But more than fear, I was angry and sad. ... I wanted to be with my family and play with my cousins and grow up alongside them."

She says the risk of her undocumented status really hit home for her three years ago when a friend of the family faced deportation proceedings.

"It really pushed me to figure out how to defend him," she said.

She started organizing an effort to draw attention to the friend's cause, petitioning local leaders and sending thousands of letters and faxes to ICE Director John Morton and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

She calls it her campaign of "coming out of the shadows,  showing people we are not just numbers, we are human beings."

The friend was eventually released without consequence.

Her successful effort caused her to realize "the power we had when we organized."

"It was the first time I really felt that I could have control over what it meant to be undocumented," she said.

At age 55, Phoenix resident Maria Rodriguez is one of the oldest riders on the bus. Though she's a permanent resident of the United States, she joined the group's movement because, like many of her peers, she has family members who are undocumented, including her brother, who has been deported.

Immigration legislation "affects us all," she says, but most of all, it has lasting effects on the children of undocumented migrants.

Though they may be born in this country, they live with the fear that their parents could be deported at any time, Rodriguez says. As a result, they suffer long-term "psychological consequences."

Gabriela Alcazar, 24, is one of those children. Born in Chicago, she grew up with parents who were each without papers at one time or another.

"I remember waiting at the (Mexican) border for my mother to come across, not knowing if she would make it," she said.

Lately, Unzueta says she has noticed that the dialogue on illegal immigration has turned into a "criminalization of our parents."

Legislators today, she says, are more supportive of young people and lay the blame for their undocumented status on their parents, who, in most cases, brought their children to this country.

"I blame immigration laws. They haven't adjusted to the needs of our society," Unzueta said.

The White House announced in June a bold new policy that halts deportations of some young immigrants who came to America illegally as children. The policy is considered a temporary measure that allows eligible immigrants to apply for work permits and deportation deferral for a two-year period.

Alcazar says the policy doesn't go far enough.

"It's supposed to be this grand thing, but it's still up to the individual discretion of ICE officers through an application and approval process," she said.

Other members of the group point to the number of immigrants deported under the Obama administration: 1 million people over the past four years, they say. ICE puts the number at roughly 1.5 million since 2009.

But they also say they know that Obama and the Democratic Party are the ones in the best position to affect change.

"He (Obama) has the power to do something," Ramirez said, calling for the president to end deportations altogether. "We just want to work and have a decent life."

Alcazar, who now lives in Detroit, said she was motivated to join the bus journey when she heard the group would be going to the Democratic convention.

"Republicans, we know where they stand," Alcazar said. "They've picked a side. They are bigots, anti-immigration and anti-family. ... Instead, we need to start pressuring our allies (Democrats) to make real gains for our community."

Her statements echo the larger group's stated goal: for Obama "to be remembered as the one who found the way to include the millions struggling for a better life in this country. We want President Obama to use his executive authority to provide relief for our entire community, students, parents, and all of us."

On Friday, the 40 bus riders will head back to their homes with the hopes that their message was heard in Charlotte and other cities.

All the members vow to continue raising awareness back in their individual communities.

They'll be returning with a new symbol to inspire others to join them: the Monarch butterfly.

"We would like to migrate freely around the country," Alcazar says, "just as butterflies do."

CNN's Julie In contributed to this report.

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  1. NorCalMojo

    They're just looking for a better life, it's the politicians that allow it that are the problem.

    Politicians in both parties. The GOP doesn't oppose illegal immigration any more than the democrats. Bush is proof of that. It's red meat to dangle in front of the middle class base before elections. Romney will be on board for the next incarnation of amnesty. He may even go as far as Bush and call people who oppose it racists and vigilantes.

    September 6, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Report abuse |
  2. NorCalMojo

    He needs to go back to Mexico City and protest their immigration laws. The hypocrisy of illegal immigration advocates is amazing. Our immigration laws are some of the most lax in the world, but still they single us out.

    More low skill labor means lower wages and higher rents. People who think they're being compassionate don't understand simple economics. Our poor people are being pushed into rural areas with no jobs. We're creating a welfare class.

    We import Mexican racism and it's starting to take hold here. Mexican is almost synonymous with menial laborer now. Harsh, but anyone who says otherwise is either very sheltered or a liar..

    The real tradtion of immigration is importing cheap labor to undercut our own poor people. Then the immigrants are pitted against the natives so they don't unite and vote in people who might actually make life better for them. People who think they're empowering themselves by rallying into ethnic groups don't understand how the system works.

    The humane path is to push Mexico to reform and protect our the poor people we already have from exploitation.

    September 6, 2012 at 9:59 pm | Report abuse |
  3. No way Jose!

    "We would like to migrate freely around the country," Alcazar says, "just as butterflies do."

    Migrate freely back to where you once came, like the butterfly. Or in this case, the cucarocha!

    September 6, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • levotb

      Everyone of these radical lawbreakers should be arrested and deported. They insult Americans, insult America and want continued hand-outs as they do it!

      September 6, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
  4. sheldon

    it's not called migrating when you are moving to a land that is already occupied it is called Invasion.

    September 6, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
  5. MexScottish

    Jesus commandment. : 'Love your neighbor as yourself.

    September 6, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      But he doesn't say "love them MORE than you love yourself".

      estimates put 10-20% of Americans out of work right now. Why should we make the system easier for our neighbors than ourselves?

      September 6, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Judith

        Actually it is 8.4%.

        September 7, 2012 at 6:20 am | Report abuse |
      • .com

        I am assuming bill you are including the unofficial numbers of unemployment. Official numbers only include those who are still looking for full time work. This does not include those who are only searching for part or have stopped looking or have been looking at a menial rate ie applying for less than one or two jobs a week.

        September 7, 2012 at 8:01 am | Report abuse |
      • quercus454

        Actually Judith unemployment is over 20% if you figure it like they did before Reagan. The government has changed the methods of counting unemployed so as to make the numbers look better then what they are. See the website shadow stats for real numbers.

        September 7, 2012 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
    • doubledees

      we can love them from a distance – not in our backyards.

      September 7, 2012 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Mara

      the same book you got that out of *also* says 'thou shalt not steal', 'thou shalt not covet thy neighbors stuff' and 'thou shalt not lie'...but I guess it's only American's who're supposed to follow the rules, not anyone else.

      September 7, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  6. DebS

    "Migration is a human right." – ummm....no it's not. It's a right for people who come here legally. No country HAS to let anyone migrate.

    'Ramirez said, calling for the president to end deportations altogether. "We just want to work and have a decent life." '
    I really have no problem with that EXCEPT come here LEGALLY!

    The thing that really irks me about all of it is that many people are of the mindset that all Hispanics are here illegally. And they are perfectly fine with abusing the rights of American citizens because the are of Hispanic descent. From the sounds of it, the illegals could careless about that and are only concerned with how it affects them.

    September 6, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • levotb

      Illegal aliens have "a right to be arrested and deported".

      September 6, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Qularknoo

    since there are legal avenues to immigrate to a country that you "admire" ... why not follow the legal avenues?

    September 6, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • wjshelton

      Have you ever really looked at what it takes to legally immigrate to the US? Especially for those who do not have enough money to qualify for an "investor's visa"? Apparently not.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      Oh its too hard. Waaaa.

      You know what else is hard? Making $10,000 in 1 day. Perhaps we should all just ignore the law and migrate over to a local bank? Solve our problem. Maybe Obama could help us out by getting rid of those laws too.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
  8. WillyWalnuts

    Go just about anywhere in the world, enter that Country illegally, stand in front of their capital and demand that your "rights" be honored. Are you kidding me ?

    September 6, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
  9. jim

    Mexico requires American tourists to show their visa and passport at immigration checkpoints. Why shouldn't Mexicans coming to the US obtain visas too?

    September 6, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Randy

      Because your government would be called insensitive and racist and nobody would vote for Obama.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • jim

        Why racist?

        September 6, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        Because according to liberals, all Latinos are illegal immigrants. So if you try to enforce laws directed at illegal immigrants, you're actually targeting Latinos.

        September 6, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott B

      Because businesses have bought off politicians from both political parties to ensure their supply of cheap labor continues to be unhindered.

      September 7, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  10. TomG

    Absolutely correct. But it is hard to keep from commenting. Its like not looking at a car wreck.

    Also amazing is the correlation between misinformation, made-up history, etc, and the spewing of hateful bile. On second thought, that isn't so surprising is it?

    September 6, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Afell

    Want to end illegal immigration? Start arresting and convicting the owners and CEOs of the companies that are hiring them on charges of aiding and abetting in the commission of a crime. Overnight, you will see these folks self-deporting as their jobs are literally gone.

    But this will never happen, as the majority of those businesses actually thrive from low-cost labor that they pay under the table in cash. And you will find both Democrats and Republicans doing the same thing.

    September 6, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • us citizen

      Agreed, the influential american pretends their is legitimate right, but hires an illegal nanny or housekeeper. we are a nation of Hippocrates who forgot their roots.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bill

      Absolutely 100% true.

      Why do illegals come here?

      If you put people in prison for hiring illegals, what will people stop (mostly, never completely) doing?
      Hiring illegals.

      If people stop hiring illegals, what will not be available to illegals?

      So if illegals are not here to do all the jobs that, as our friend to the south Vicente Fox says, "Even blacks don't want", how will we find people to do them?
      By raising wages to a level commensurate with the requirements... The American way.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • JT

        It is hardly just about jobs. You forget the free medical care, the free education for their children, automatic citizenship for their US born children, and the welfare. Getting rid of the jobs will help, but you also have to get rid of all of the benefits they receive.

        September 7, 2012 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Holly

      very simple solution. National E Verify. Right now NumbersUSA is backing the law suit against DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano and ICE Director John Morton. Soon this invasion will only be in history books.

      September 6, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Kim

    In 2005, while i was still in high school, illegal immigrant teenagers staged this huge "walk-out." It was so frustrating because they had people on each street, either in their car with the engine off or laying down on the actual asphalt, preventing people from leaving the school. I have no idea to this day what their plan was or what they were trying to acomplish. The next day they were on the news for doing this and people were commenting on a message board similar to CNN's that their action were ridiculous. Not only for doing an un-peacful protest but also because they took the schools flag pole, put the Mexican flag on it and turned the American flag unside down. It doesn't make sense, if they love Mexico more than America, they can go back!

    September 6, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • David

      Eventually you will even wear out your welcome to the one's that actually support you here...

      September 6, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • wjshelton

      Kim, if you didn't (and still don't) remember what those protests in 2005 were about, you obviously weren't paying attention. And you probably weren't paying attention because you didn't like those students in the first place, because of your preconceived notions. Go ahead, continue not paying attention, but while you are doing so, please don't vote. Yours will obviously not be an informed vote.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Holly

      Kim, go to NumbersUSA and take action with millions of Americans. NumbersUSA is backing law suit against DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano and ICE Director John Morton. Soon this invasion will only be in history books.

      September 6, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Report abuse |
  13. KB

    What about the migrating birds. Would they need US visa to fly thru'?

    September 6, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • WillyWalnuts

      Those birds won't take your job, your tax dollars or commit crimes against you.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      Birds also don't typically over breed and crowd out other species or run down property values where ever they are either.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Report abuse |
  14. BuckUpUS

    Move here. Take my job. Move my job, there.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • us citizen

      Because the average american will work for 8/hr. come on and wake up

      September 6, 2012 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • WillyWalnuts

        Thousands of Americans DO work for $8.00 an hour – minimum wage is $7.25. Give Americans $10 an hour to pick tomatoes and they will – or I,ll go without cherries & tomatoes in Winter. Send ILLEGAL immigrants home.

        September 6, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • us citizen

        that's alot of bull or you are out of touch with the average american. I am a hiring manager and the average american will nickel and dime you for the most they can get, then call in sick and make every excuse why they can t work, call in late or find and alibi to why they aren't as productive. Mexican productivity is 50% more efficient. That is from a lazy american manager. Stop fooling yourselves. when the american worker steps up to the plate, then we can have an intelligent conversation.

        White Anglo Saxon Citizen
        The truth hurts the average citizen

        September 6, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • us citizen

        Walmart is the main employer of minimum wage, i suppose you work at Walmart?

        September 6, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Holly

        illegals have set a complete system for defrauding America. From food, housing, education and the tax system which they scam for 4.2 billion or 10 million a day – that American's PAY. go to NumbersUSA and join millions of American's who are backing the law suite against DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano and ICE Director John Morton

        September 6, 2012 at 9:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • us citizen

        Yeah right and the politicians don't defraud us, they enter office as middle class citizens, then leave as millionaires. if i worked as an average government worker and used the system to make me rich, i would be in federal prison. Wake up america and get real, we are being left behind as these politicians get rich. Enough is enough, take America back,time is for change and Obama / Romney or any other white horse is not gonna get you there. I vote for the average American Joe

        September 6, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • JT

        If a company cannot find workers at $8/hr then they will have to pay a higher rate. Illegals help drive down wages by working for $8/hr.

        September 7, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  15. Dr veruju

    The false political correctness bus is leaving its skid marks on the now totally pathetic value of US citizenship.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
  16. reader10

    Yes. They are slowly taken over this country.Stepping on the law.THANKS DEMOCRATS and all of our leaders who is selling this country for their job.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Illegal trol


      September 6, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      You of course realize that Bush tried for 8 years to get amnesty for ALL illegals not just those that came here as children but was stopped by democrats and republicans in the congress. And John McCain co sponsored a bill to do the same and it was defeated in congress. Politicians of any stripe will sell their soul for votes.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
  17. justice

    maybe there is some hope for the USA after all.. when I get pulled over, I have to show an ID..why not everyone else?

    September 6, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Delaware Bob

    A stop has to be put to these arrogant illegal aliens. Who do these illegal aliens think they are? They are in this country ILLEGALLY and tell us with their fist in the air we will not self-deport. Fine! We will deport you! You have NO RIGHT to be in this country. Had enough? Vote republican.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • leen321

      I just returned from a foreign country and had to have my US passport on my person at all times when outside of my hotel room. Did I mind? No, I am not a citizen of the country I was visiting and I respected their rules.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott B

      They are just doing what's best for themselves and their family. Like the rest of us. It's a joke that you think Republicans will fix this. Remember when they had 6 years of complete control over our federal government and did nothing to stop it? You really think the corporations that back the GOP want their cheap source of labor to go away?

      September 7, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
  19. Joeazona@hotmail.com

    WooooHooooo!! AZ Wins!!!

    September 6, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      and why not?
      too expensive, I don't think so.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Frank

    Some white guy try that the next time you get DWI / DUI. Just tell the cops... NO FEAR! IM NOT OBEYING THE LAW! and see if they let you go!

    I never thought I would see this country in this bad a shape in my lifetime, but its just about GONE. Complete lawlessness.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
  21. HillClimber

    As long as the term "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" includes the total elimination of illegal aliens from American soil, then I am all for it! My laws have been broken by these intruders and I demand my government (and I don't care who sits at the head of it) remove these invaders, and I demand it be done now. My Supreme Court has ruled that if illegal alien children are on my land then we have to educate them. Therefore, it stands to logic, the way to remove illegal aliens from American classrooms is to assure that they are not on American soil. Get illegal aliens off my land, off my roads, out of my schools, and out of my pocket and do it now!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • sosideirish


      September 6, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Chris

    Why didn't these people put forth this effort for better conditions when they were living south of the border? Is it because our rules are laxed and they're taking advantage of our screwed up system? If you wanted to be closer to your family in Mexico, no ones stopping you.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Holly

      I do get it and so do millions of American's who belong to NumbersUSA. NumbersUSA is right now at this moment backing the law suit against DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano and ICE Director John Morton. This nonsense is about to become part of America's history.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Holly

      I do get it and so do millions of American's who belong to NumbersUSA. This nonsense is about to become part of America's history.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • wjshelton

      Uh, Chris, most of "these people" came at such a young age, they barely have any memory of their home countries. They are, for all intents and purposes, Americans - and the majority had no voice in whether they were to come or not. Care to try again? Or are you through being bigoted for the evening?

      September 6, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sickofitall

        The plight, and it is indeed a plight, of the ones brought here at a young age was caused by the illegals who brought them here, not the citizens here. Why or how can you justify taking my tax money away from my childs education and use it for the education of a non-citizen who in a vast majority of cases works for cash, pays in no taxes and in a fairly high number of cases draws food stamps and welfare to boot (also paid by my tax dollars) and drives an illegally registered and uninsured car. I work with a large number of Hispanic citizens who are here legally and they don't want them here either, it gives them a bad reputation and only serves to further bolster the stereotypes that cause them problems every day. I say deport them to some other country or at least to the very south edge of their country so they won't be back tomorrow!

        September 6, 2012 at 11:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • MinemanUT

        Fine, leave the "innocent" kids here, deport the guilty parents because they certainly did not come here "through no fault of their own" I am willing to make that trade for every parent deported, one child may remain. If there was more than two kid, guess the parents will have to decide who is going home with them.

        September 7, 2012 at 12:37 am | Report abuse |
  23. El Gran Machete

    Weird, most immigrants from latin ameica complain that people disregards the law in their home countries. Yet the illegals expect to be forgiven for not respecting immigration laws as soon as they getnhere! Weird.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
  24. kiki

    Cant you understand! one more time, America has laws Mexico has laws all countries have laws do you know what a law really is? you can not cross a sovereign border then demand rights meant for the country where you illegally entered for instance you cannot cross into North Korea without consequences or from El Salvador into Mexico without problems so my point is don't come here and expect special treatment or sympathy from American politicians or citizens.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      it's called a REVOLUTION.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jesus

      Please stop. You are making terrible arguements that make us look bad. And by us I am talking about immigrants of all colors (although you only seem to mention the brown ones, that's a little racist in itself).

      It's people like you who make coming to an agreement that benefits everyone, nearly impossible. I for one think there is a way to solve the problem we just need to come into the discussion with a more open mind.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott B

      They can expect whatever you want until you or someone else stop them.

      September 7, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  25. El Gran Machete

    DemocRATS: let's cut to the chase. Instead of playing games with dream act, not deporting people, etc., let's just proclaim and work hard so that we can repeal ALL immigration laws, ok? Otherwise, we are being unfair to all of the people that are out but want to come inside. This would be brilliant! We would have many more democratic voters very soon. Everybody would be happy.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Joe

    Seems the case for vigilantism grows day by day. Taxation without representation, pretty sure I heard that somewhere before. We get taxed so they can get healthcare and food stamps.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Evelyn

    These folks one and all should be deported .No exceptions .We have catered to them far to much.If the house would have brought the E-Verify bill up for a vote ,we could have been on our way to ending this problem.The bill has the sponsers needed but Speaker Boener will not bring it up. Yet they try to tell us it is all about jobs.Employers need to face harsh penalities for hiring them including fines and jail.Congress needs to grow a backbone.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  28. ihatemexico

    These MEXICANTS need to GET OUT!!!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      and the legal hispanic, and the Chinese, and the Ethopians want illegals out too.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
  29. MexScottish

    All of the Mexican presidents have been corrupt except for Benito Juarez an indigenous person and Madero!! In the 1968 Mexico city riots thousands of students were killed, can you imagine what the corrupt pigs would do to the indigenous poor!! They would kill them like flies!! The elite which are usually mestizos have homes made of gold while the poor indigenous live in dirt floor huts!!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain


      September 6, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
  30. TomAmerican

    I find it very incredible that people coming from a country in which the immigration laws are much more restrictive are complaining about our laws.

    Sounds very hypocritical to me.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Peter

    "We already knew, when we applied for the temporary work visa, that we had no plans to leave when it expired. Why punish us when we never had any intention of obeying the law? Instead you should continue not arresting us as we tour the country attempting to influence the politics of a nation we have no legitimate right to even be in. The Republicans are racist because they don't want total amnesty and unlimited illegal immigration. They also keep saying that citizens have more right to work in this country than illegal immigrants - and since illegal immigrants are Mexican, that just shows the Republicans are racist against Mexicans. The Democrats, on the other hand, will grant amnesty, grant us the unearned right to vote, grant us in-state tuition and free health care at the expense of those racist taxpayers whose jobs we're taking for a fraction of a living wage. They'll even grant states the freedom to use Federal money to pay welfare benefits to illegals while they are learning English (also at taxpayer expense) - so they can begin stealing a higher class of jobs from citizens."

    September 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
  32. crappygovernment

    It wouldn't be difficult or costly to land-mine the border with Mexico.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      and we trained personnel with no jobs, now.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        does anyone think it possible CNN is owned by the cartels, hence there are NEVER any anti-immigration articles.

        Far-fetched? mahbe, but someone is paying CNN off, 100%, ever single article.

        Could be China...yeah, and where's my tin hat, whatever.

        It's no concidence CNN is 100% ALWAYS in favor of illegal immigration.
        Maybe it's just Janet, or Eric, but I don't' think they have enough money...

        September 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Holly

        I've wondered that myself. The drug cartel was recently exposed running a horse racing corporation out of NM and Oklahoma – who knows what else they are running.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • jeff

      But it would be against international law.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        isn't stopping them from being used in Afghanistan currently.

        September 6, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Free the Dumb Kwans

    Nice to see our employee Mr. Feinstein selectively enforcing whatever immigration laws he chooses at the moment. The U.S. has truly become a Banana Republic. It is no longer a nation of law nor justice. And as evidenced by the two recent political conventions, democracy is also dead. It would appear that secession of the states from the Federal tyranny is the only choice left if you want to restore your liberties.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Holly

    right now NumbersUSA has backed the law suit against Janet Napolitano and ICE Director John Morton. NumbersUSA is HUGE where millions of American's have gathered to stop all of this nonsense. go to NumbersUSA and take action. Soon it America's history book's will be about when illegals once invaded America and how American's rose up to stop it.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      Thanks Holly

      September 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • wjshelton

      Holly, I visited your site and am not impressed. Your NumbersUSA contains nothing more than window dressing to cover up a racist, anti-immigrant political agenda.

      September 7, 2012 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
  35. knitterladyskreations

    I am about as liberal as a person can be and I firmly believe that coming to this country illegally should mean jail, no benefits and deportation. If you are here illegally then you are a criminal! If my husband and I went to another country illegally we would be tossed out.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • multinucleate

      I agree with you. I'm a liberal as well, and while I believe there needs to be immigration reform, you cannot enter a country illegally and demand that the laws be reversed or ignored.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Holly

      right now NumbersUSA has backed the law suit against Janet Napolitano and ICE Director John Morton. NumbersUSA is HUGE where millions of American's have gathered to stop all of this nonsense. go to NumbersUSA and take action. There will come a day when the invasion will be stopped and it will be by the American's who got behind this.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Blogger1776

      It's nice to see that there are times that Liberals and Conservatives can agree on something.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
  36. aidyn006

    Here's the thing (and this is coming from someone who went through legal hell to become legalized.) I do not believe in this movement. The idea that "Migration is a human right" should not be the message and quite frankly I believe, even while I was going through the legalization process, any and ALL that enter the country illegally (i.e. crossing boarders) should go back, no if, and's, or buts. Reason? You never went through a background check process like those the come with a VISA but overstay said VISA. Now unto those people....I think that if they come here through legal means and overstay (as was my parents case) but are attempting to become residents and be solid, good people (as were my parents) they should be issue a residency card so that they can live, and work, and pay taxes, and raise a family (that was not the case for my parents...they were denied ever application and the reason was "we have met the quota for your nationality." Finally, the kids.....(aka people similar to what I meant through) as long as they came here through legal means...i think what this current administration is doing is a step in the right direction....

    September 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jared

      Come here legally through the process? I welcome you with open arms!

      I would be for making the process easier though.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  37. solex

    Which "libtards" are those? Aren't you also "letting them in"? You make it sound like we are standing at the border handing out flowers or something.

    It is CONSERVATIVES that foster illegals by wanting to hire people for rock bottom wages. You like those cheap prices at the produce market? Those prices will TRIPLE if producers had to pay "White people" wages.

    Typical repub, assign blame when you are part of the problem in the first place.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      Right, because somehow all hiring is done by Republicans. You're an idiot. But, you did put your finger on one aspect of the problem. Deport illegals and employers will have no choice but to pay - what did you call them? - "white people wages".

      Boom, problem solved!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Report abuse |
  38. MexScottish

    European terrorism and their biological warfare Genocide 95% of these people and the theft of their land!!
    European crimes have left them a ruined people and impoverished people and as incomplete human beings. Under Europeans, they have suffered their parasitic sucking of the blood of our nation's wealth, and the slow-motion mass murder of their people

    September 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • sheldon

      You do realize this land that you claim was stolen was fought for in a bloody war not just with Indians but the French, Russians, Spanish and the English. You are a wear it was a bloody war?

      One of us was going to win and it was us. this land was not stolen it was won.

      We did not migrate he we colonized here.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      Yep, The Spanish murdered the vast majority of Natives in the New World.
      Should South America and Central also have open borders based on your logic?

      Would they go for that? Would Mexico?

      Your Native American argument does not hold up. Native Americans did not just live in the United States, did they?

      September 6, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  39. sheldon

    People look at it this way we are doing illegals a miss justice. By letting them come here, we are stopping them from confronting their own government to change their way. We are preventing countries like Mexico from having a long over due civil war. letting them run here does not help them correct their problems. Yes they should all be sent back and told fight for your rights. Fight to change the changes you need. If they did this maybe we would not have the drug problems from their drug lords we have

    September 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • TJ

      Sheldon, you are correct. After 160 years of corrupt leadership in Mexico, it's time for Mexicans to fight for their own freedom and standard of living IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, instead of running here, yet rarely partaking in our culture or history.

      I fully support sending back Mexican men back to Mexico, fully trained in combat, to retake their nation, and place freedom up high, along with human rights and obedience to just laws.

      Somehow though, I don't think we'll see that in our lifetime, and Mexicans will continue to live in poverty, escaping to our nation just to feed their family.

      That said, the only solution then isn't to allow our laws be violated, but to counter the breaking of those laws with deportation and in some cases, prison sentences, then deportation. Time for Americans to grow a backbone and start standing up for their own laws – even if our so-called "president" ignores them.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • Holly

        I service all of San Diego for my work and know for a fact MX are not coming here to feed their families. They come for the freebies – including scamming the tax system for 4.2 billion or 10 million a day. They come and go across the border with ease and send $ back to MX where many will retire. Many have homes in MX and the US. I'm not sure where you got your information – but I have it directly from those who are doing it. right now NumbersUSA has backed the law suit against Janet Napolitano and ICE Director John Morton. NumbersUSA is HUGE where millions of American's have gathered to stop all of this nonsense. go to NumbersUSA and take action. There will come a day when the invasion will be stopped and it will be by the American's who got behind this.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  40. MexScottish

    Deport pilgrims and their anchor babies!!

    September 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      Since the Spanish killed off almost the enitre population of Natives in the New World, then you would be for open borders for all of the New World, all of America.
      The New World, would stand against you.

      Think through that logic a little bit.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
  41. MexScottish

    This country was founded by illegal immigrants!!

    September 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • sheldon

      We didn't migrate here we colonized here there is a big difference.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • multinucleate

        The difference being...?

        September 6, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • LogicMonster

        Sheldon, your ignorance is rather astounding. For your benefit I'm leaving the definition of the word migrate, which essentially defines what settlers did when they came to America.

        Migrate –
        : to move from one country, place, or locality to another
        : to pass usually periodically from one region or climate to another for feeding or breeding
        : to change position in an organism or substance

        Migrated to America, forced Natives from their lands through warfare and false treaties, and colonized their lands.

        September 6, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • sheldon

      The diff. in Migrating and Colonization is that England sent us here to colonize. We were not running from our country we were increasing the size of our country. After colonization we fought to become a republic of England and this is why we are the "Republic of America"

      The Mexicans and there Illegals coming to this country are running from their country. They need to stay and have their civil war just like we did.

      So no we did not migrate here like the illegals and lib's try to tell people. We colonized here.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Debbie

      BUT NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DEMANDING THINGS "The group said it planned the act of civil disobedience "because we are tired of the mistreatment"

      September 6, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Ohwellthatslife

    I guess these people, illegally immigrated population, doesnt even realize that they were wrong in the first place. People talking about original native indians and pilgrims being illegal should realize there was no Law of the Land at the time regarding immigration. SO unless you can bring a banana leaf with incriptions of immigration rules from great Indian chief at the time, you cant say that when whites migrated, they broke any rule. It was a lawless land and the powerful group won. But now as it stands, there is in fact a law of the land for immigration which was broken by these people. They should be punished by jail or deportation. WHy should your first mistake of staying back illegally be ignored? Just because the whites came and wiped out indians at that time, doesn't mean they are illegal immigrants. YOu now want to be part of USA because these white people made this country what it is, not you and not your forefathers. Your forefathers were still riding horses and travelling jungle pathways when their forefathers were planning highways and infrastructure that you want to enjoy now.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Jenny

    The only illegal aliens in the USA are white people!!

    September 6, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ohwellthatslife

      really? where's that banana leaf on which indian chief wrote the immigration law? There wasn't any law of the land for immigration then. There is now and people who break it must be punished. If you want to go back in that lawless land, go where its still the case, like your own country. YOu now want to be part of USA because these white people made this country what it is, not you and not your forefathers. Your forefathers were still riding horses and travelling jungle pathways when their forefathers were planning highways and infrastructure that you want to enjoy now.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
  44. crappygovernment

    Open Borders = Communism, not Christianity

    September 6, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  45. solex

    Every person demanding that all illegals must immediately be deported to Mexico must show up the very next day to perform the jobs they were doing.

    YOU get to pick the produce
    YOU get to clean the toilets
    YOU get to cut the grass outside the office building.
    YOU get to be paid UNDER THE TABLE and have no right to vote or complain about working conditions

    The poor migrants do the work we refuse to do. And if you think we DON'T refuse to do it, just think about how you would want to perform any of the jobs I listed.

    Out of work? Let's see ANY of you step up and grab a broom or a mop.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • crappygovernment

      Welfare rolls, American teens and prison inmates if necessary can pick up the slack.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • sheldon

      I have none illegals that have higher paying jobs than you mentioned and after all Obama just told 1 million that they no longer have to work the fields they can now take American Jobs.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Todd E

      The people offering those jobs won't hire an American to do those jobs. Why? Because the employer DOES NOT WANT a person who they would have to pay a Federal minimum wage, buy workman's comp insurance for, or respect the rights of. Americans would take those jobs if they paid a liveable wage.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • solex

        And if providers DID pay a living wage, the price of produce would TRIPLE or more. Still want those low pay jobs to go away?

        September 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      You realize we did all of those things before, right? Oh, you probably didn't. You've been living in a fictional fantasy world in which no hard physical labor was done in this country until there were illegal Mexican immigrants.

      Also, you're incorrect when you say that we will have to be paid under the table and have no political rights. We'll be paid just like all other legal workers and since we'll have the right to stand up for our own interests, we won't let employers push wages into the toilet (which is what illegal immigrants do). We'll have all those rights because we are citizens of the country.

      So you can take your false choice and your utter ignorance of history and . . . let them develop into nonsensical political views, I suppose.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • lbj17829

      Actually, I do clean the toliets. I am an Irish and Native American woman. I own and operate a small maid service in Dallas Fort Worth. I have to work for far less than I should because they underbid jobs. It's easy for them, they get benefits and 17 dollars an hour under the table for cleaning a home. Not bad at all.

      I am forced to work for the same, get no food stamps, free housing or healthcare. I do not find it funny at all that I work my butt off and clip coupons while they live the high life illegally.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • l42t120

        lbj – I salute you. My very first paying job was cleaning hotel rooms. You talk about cleaning toilets. Ever cleaned a honeymoon suite after it's been vacated? I hated it, loathed every minute of it. But I moved on. I am white, my father is a LEGAL immigrant from another country. I paid my dues with that first job and had a few others that I don't want to ever go back to. But, I considered those jobs a right of passage. They paid for my education and got me to where I am today. No more – illegal immigrants have taken that away. Yes, us poor white folks would do those jobs, have done those jobs and would still be doing those jobs if illegals had not come in and undercut the wages. I have absolutely no problem with anyone who comes to this country legally. I do have a huge issue with my taxes being raised to pay for free benefits to illegals. Maybe I should renounce my citizenship, then return illegally for the free handout?

        September 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fran

      For your information, I HAVE picked produce and I HAVE cleaned toilets! When you have a family, you do what you have to do to keep them fed and taken care of. I was paid minimum wage while doing these jobs. Taking care of a family of 4 with minimum wage pay is no easy feat. Then you're told that you make too much to get any kind of assistance! Yet, the illegal immigrants come over here and get all the assistance that people here "make too much to get"! In most cases they actually have more disposable income than the people working for minimum wage.

      I am no longer able to work, and still cannot get disability or any kind of help. Forget the fact that I paid my SS and Medicare taxes just like everyone else.

      I can't get medical care because I can't afford it. However, the illegal immigrants medical care is paid for (by taxpayers)!

      Sorry, but I believe that America should take care of their own BEFORE helping everyone else!

      September 7, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
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  47. amy077

    Bankers and Wall Street bankrupted America, not immigrants!

    September 6, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      AGREED! not immigrants, Bankers, Wall Street and illegal immigrants!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • sheldon

      You left out liberals

      September 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
  48. rocinante

    Past time we eliminate racial bias in our immigration law and provide a workable solution for the millions of Americans who contribute to our society while living in fear.

    Hey Republicans! You guys are obviously having trouble with minority groups and diversity of your base – just appealing to angry elderly white males isn't enough. Make this your issue, and you might win a vote or two among the minority groups.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      You advocate giving away what is not yours to give, THEIF.
      Some of us, do not share your viewpoint and are not interested in giving away our country, even if you would like to.
      How 'about a little compassion for us US citizens and legal immiagrants.

      This country and it's bounty is not yours to give.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • sheldon

      Illegals come in all races and you do not reward people that break laws by being here illegal.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sean

      You have no idea what you are talking about. Race isnt mentioned once in any immigration law.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • sheldon

        Citizens are of all race. Illegals are of all race. There is nothing racial or racist about sending all illegals back.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
  49. TFC

    " They've traveled for nearly 40 days " Should these people not be working? So they come here to not work, drain our system and protest?

    One good thing about all this is that they are now all in one mass deportable group

    September 6, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
  50. R Freeze

    send them home......why is this an issue? No papers........no CASA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    September 6, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Liberal Monkey

      You know R Freeze. Its people like you who make it dificult for these hard working people to get into this country and work to the american dream. My hart goes out to these poor people

      September 6, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • luvlar

        Liberal Monkey – Laws, not someone's opinion make it difficult. But this country is full of hard working people that came here legally. I have very little compassion for the group in this story. The US is not here to solve the unemployment problems of other countries.

        September 6, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        don't these folks have their own American country?

        September 6, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |

    I demand to know why this administration is letting these leeches off the hook? Why are they not all being locked up? They have broken federal laws. IF they are so damed concerned with rights, then what about the taxpayer's rights? We have to pay taxes, obey the laws, etc. Why do they consider themselves above the law? I want each and every one of these "detained" people to tell us what would happen if we went to their country and demanded the things that they demand here in the United States.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • amy077

      you are full of hate! What is wrong with you? They are people too!

      September 6, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • John

        So are the other 6 billion people in the world. The United States isn't the only country in the world where there are people, you know. In fact, all illegal immigrants in the US had countries of their own that they left.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
  52. RiseAgain

    Seriously, have you EVER read an ani-ILLEGAL-immigration CNN article? EVER?

    September 6, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  53. JB

    I really don't get it. These folks are hear illegally and since when does someone who has entered this country illegaly have rights. Rights are for citizens not someone who has entered illegally. Another way to look at it is if I entered another country illegally and decided to stay would that country grant me rights? I think not.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      Oh, that is easy; "since Obama said so".

      September 6, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • JB

      One more thing. Let's not forget about anchor babies. It would be cheaper to give the expectant mothers a fist full of cash when they arrive and arrange transportation back to their home country. And of course paid for by taxpayers.

      September 7, 2012 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
  54. Bribarian

    This must be the only nation that has an argument about it's illegals. It's time to lay the hammer down on these criminals.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hal

      The word is "its," not "it's," amigo. If you want to cut down on illegal immigration, crack down on employers. Or better yet, let's pass another Reagan-style amnesty program. Viva la raza!

      September 6, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • justme

        Problem is , it isn't just the employers because most of them are unemployed

        September 6, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • TJ

        Hal, you need some education here; Viva La Raza? You mean that racist organization that tries to claim it represents some unknown race yet to be discovered? I'm 100% Latin (NOT "latino", and NOT "Hispanic"). My ancestral roots go back over a millennium.

        La Raza is simply an anti-Caucasian hate group intent on creating a "race" where there is none.

        And while I agree with you that we should go after employers of illegals (with prison and hard labor), putting illegals in prison before deportation would be wise too (with hard labor). Let both these criminal groups pay their own way, and not be a burden to the American CITIZENRY.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  55. CC

    Migration is not a right because we have these things called "laws". You must follow each countries laws and procedures in order to visit a country, live in a country, work in a country or become a citizen of a country. I am American and I can not just go to another country and decide I want to live there unless I follow their procedures. These illegal immigrants are line jumpers and have come here hoping to stay but, that's a risk they took. It's not their right. They can't come here and demand things (immigration reform) and take things (benefits, etc.). They can't come here and be a drain on our tax resources. We need strong leadership on this issue now before it gets even worse. A 2 year temporary work visa is a joke. 2 years? That's the most temporary measure imaginable. One law that I am really against is the law that says if you are born here, you are a citizen. If I was traveling in Holland and I had a baby, that baby would not be a Dutch citizen. My understanding is that law in the US was made to give children of slaves citizenship - so the law served its purpose. I don't think the law was designed to give every border jumper's children citizenship. We need to amend/clarify that law . My 2 cents.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • tiredofyou82

      See, you've illustrated something wonderful about our country. I wholeheartedly disagree with many of your points, but I respect your opionion becuase your post is not without merit. You obviously stand up for what you believe in, and my guess (purely based off feel) is that you've carved out a nice life for yourself. Bravo, as I have done the same and I wish for everyone, to some extent, to have a safe and productive life. Unfortunately we disagree on many of the fundamental ideas behind immigration, one of which being how the US was founded. We accepted the masses of poor immigrants, and while there was plenty of ethnic tension in the country, we obviously made it through to the point where most ethnicities live harmoniously amongst eachother. With the influx of illegal immigrants from Mexico over the past few decades, we certainly have seen a strain on our resources and in some cases the criminal element from Mexico and Central/South America has spilled in to our country. Meanwhile, thousands if not millions of commerical and non-commercial farmers, landscapers, restauranteurs, auto mechanics, manufacturing companies, and other manual labor-driven companies have benefitted TREMENDOUSLY from these workers. Do the illegals turn around and send a bunch of their earnings back to their home countries? Sure. But do they spend millions upon millions of dollars at supermarkets, department stores, Walmarts/Targets, malls, restuarants, etc? Absolutely, and more than that they are self-sufficient more so than many Americans. Don't let anyone fool you- It's not as if there are even half as many confirmed illegal immigrants on welfare then Americans. There are not more illegals receiving unemployment benefits than US citizens. There are not more uninsured illegals receiving healthcare on taxpayers' dollars than US citizens. Is there a problem with illegal immigration that absolutely needs to be addressed? Certainly. But my last comment relates to compassion. You may have less than me, or you may feel that it's not your fault these people are born where they're born, and you're not a d-bag for believing either of these things. My belief is we need to be the gold standard for humanitarian efforts, but instead of going abroad and policing the rest of the world, we should be dealing with the issue in our backyard. That could entail figuring out what can be done to help boost the Central/South American economy, givie them a little help getting on their feet as respects certain areas (e.g. infrastructure, which US companies could then bid on and profit from), and working with their diplomats to ensure a healthy relationship with the entire North and South America. I realize this is a very idealistic view of the world, but at least I've provided a fathomable plan. If we took money away from our other ventures across the world (wars, "peacekeeping" efforts, etc), we'd have available funds to focus on the area of the world that needs our attention the most. Not only do they need our attention, but much more importantly, it could actually help our country as the need for immigrants to come to the US illegally could slowly decline. At the end of the day, that's what it's all about right?

      September 6, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        We share having compassion. We differ on the sources of our compassion. I have compassion for the children of US Citizens and legal immirgrants.

        You have compassion for the children of illegal immiagrants.

        We're all compassionate folks. It's just a question of where you compassion lies.

        September 6, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Mary

    Here's another sign....

    "No Papers. No Services"

    September 6, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  57. dnokc

    STOP THE BUS! There may still be time to register them to vote! Mark the "D" on your ballot amigo! We'll put a stamp on it and mail it for you.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  58. truth dog

    Don't forget the land of America was stolen from the Natives. Be careful what you wish.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mary

      Do y0u know any Native Americans?
      If so, have you asked them if they "owned" this land? Probably not, because Native Americans believed a person could not possess lands and sky and the creatures of the earth.
      Nothing was stolen. I'm of German heritage and my ancestors came here many, many years ago.
      And by the way, I'm also Native American, and I don't hold any grudges.

      September 6, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      The Spanish killed off most ot the natives in the New World.

      Are you advocating open borders for the entire New World based on your logic?

      I don't think any other county other than the US in the New World has allowed open borders.

      The rest of the New World, just shoots to kill, illegals, no?

      September 6, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
  59. truth dog

    The media is responsible for the racial divide. Pundits well know that there are racist pigs looking to hate any minority, especially the nations president. It it time for people to boycott certain media. Cooper, Gergen, Blitzer, King, and others should be ashamed of themselves for thier unfair reporting. The president is only in office for 4 or 8 hears, but their character will be in question for the remainder of their careers.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      I can't see Obama's character being questioned for the rest of his life. I'm pretty sure that everyone with two or more functional brain cells know his character stunk before he even made it to Washington.

      His history in Chicago made it crystal clear he is *at best* an undesirable. At best!

      September 6, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jay

        History will tell Mike. We all know that the truth will never be revealed till years after the fact.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
  60. dd

    Obama has promised clear citizenship for any al Qaeda or Taliban member. America welcomes anyone. Somalia can send all of the pirates they want. They can raid any US warship without worry! Obama says so! There are no immigration laws in the US. The President believes in anarchy, violence, murder, corruption, and getting reelected – in that order.

    September 6, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe Gerrity

      There's probably something wrong with you. Go see a mental health professional. Worst thing that happens is that you're certifiably sane, right?

      September 6, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        what kind of reply/logic are you spouting without thought?

        September 6, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Charles

    What is the point of prayer if e have the government to answers our calls?

    September 6, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Jack

    "Migration is a human right." It's the rights of taxpayers that are violated since illegals cost taxpayers over 110 billion a year. Obama doesn't care as long as he gets the hispanic vote. You get the bill he gets the vote.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Semper Fidelis

    Leviticus 19:33-34

    When an alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien. The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Empathy for Citizens and Legals

      you have no right to give away what is not yours to give.
      Thou Shall Not Steal.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • otherSF

      You found ET ?

      September 6, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  64. D. Porter

    With "progressives" at the helm (i.e. Clintons, Bush's, Obama) the rule of law means nothing in this nation.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • RiseAgain

      The Good News: US Citizens and Legals have FINALLY WOKEN UP.

      Voice your opinions loudly, strongly, and with conviction.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        haven't read a single "But where is your kindness, your empathy? These are hard-working families who deserve our support. There are no illegal human beings"

        Finally the rest of us, are commenting.

        Where's my empathy? I have plenty. It's for the children of US citizens and Legal residents.

        If your empathy lies elsewhere, then please go elsewhere and serve so you can still have your feel-good-jollies, but not at our children's expense. You have no right to give away what is not yours to give, THEIF. TRAITOR.

        And about the Native American Indians. They were all over the New World. The SPANISH killed most of them off.
        Unless you are advocating free borders for the New World, there is no argument.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  65. sinsational

    Why should they get to be free when I had to have my wife and family waited in Italy and many others. I served my country and I had to pay, go through papers, and months before getting my family here. Why do ILLEGALS think they can just come over and be citizens? I should be able to smoke a blunt but I cant cause its ILLEGAL so why is it ok for some things to be ILLEGAL and other things not?

    September 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  66. rburns

    They should all be packed up and sent back!!!!1 The Kids......the Parents....and their Grandparents....

    September 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ray


      September 6, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • truth dog

      That would mean that every caucasian in America be sent away from their familiar land back to Europe.The Hispanics are distant cousins to the Native people who lost their land to the Superioriots.

      September 6, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Derek

        Your point is invalidated due to the fact the natives lost their land due to being conquered like it or not that is the truth of the matter. Once that new group establishes a government in the conquered land their laws are the laws of the land until conquered back through successful rebellions. That has not happened thus your argument is invalid, silly, and way over used.

        September 6, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        The hiSPANICS are closer cousins to the Spanish, since the majority of Native Americans were either murdered or died of diseases the SPANISH brought with them to the new world. Very little Native American blood in the hiSPANICS.

        September 6, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        Since there were Natives in the entire New World, are you advocatiing open borders for the entire New World? or just the US. If just the US, please explain your logic.

        The Spanish killed off most of the Native population. Mexicans are more Spanish than Native Americans since the vast majority were either murdered by the Spanish or died from diseases brought by the Spansih.

        Most folks and their countries in the New World, would fight to keep their borders secured.

        And lastly, the SPANISH, bought and brought most of the African slaves to the New World, not the British, who have always been against slavery. The US was involved in the slavery issues for a much shorter time period than the rest of the New World.

        September 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        Since there were Natives in the entire New World, are you for open borders for the entire New World? or just the US. If just the US, please explain your logic.

        The Spanish killed off most of the Native population. Mexicans are more Spanish than Native Americans since the vast majority were either murdered by the Spanish or died from diseases brought by the Spanish.

        Most folks and their countries in the New World, would fight to keep their borders secured.

        And lastly, the SPANISH, bought and brought most of the African slaves to the New World, not the British, who have always been against slavery. The US was involved in the slavery issues for a much shorter time period than the rest of the New World.

        September 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • TomG

        RiseAgain – Please pass the bong. The British were always against slavery? Where did you come up with that one? Was that in some Disney movie? There were millions of slaves brought into what is now the US, and that wasn't the Spanish. Ever heard of Jamaica? Think it was a bunch of British farmers working those fields?

        Come on. You are welcome to your opinion, but spouting off nonsense and made up history is just embarassing.

        September 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  67. TiredoDaCrap

    Cute (predictable) comments by most, spewing hate, etc, at illegals. What I find interesting is that this bus drove through the entire Southeast with the "No papers, no Fear" sign on it – AND THEY WEREN'T STOPPED.
    Sounds to me like the basis of the AZ law worked here. Yes, if you are pulled over for some other crime, etc, they can search your papers. However, this bus obviously did not break any traffic laws, etc, and so was allowed to continue on it's path. Was the bus stopped because of who was on it? Was it stopped because of the signs blatantly snubbing their nose at our immigration laws? NO. It was allowed to travel along, following the rules/laws of each state.
    With all the venom over how this law would unfairly treat US citizens, I find it astonishing that those on board (here illegally) found it so easy to get from AZ to NC without any issue. Could it be that if you follow the rules (law), you really don't have anything to worry about??? Looks like we now have a bus-full of examples showing that maybe AZ wasn't so far off the mark after all!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  68. pablo

    get out!

    September 6, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  69. m1234

    Isn't it funny how these nutjobs scream against the Repubs, but according to Obozo's own campaign staff Obozo has deported more illegal aliens than Bush.
    Shows you these people are Obozo drones, no hope for intelligent dialogue
    Just "Give me free stuff, like citizenship"

    September 6, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • truth dog

      Sounds like you among other professional haters need counseling. Guess how one can identify a Republican? He or she never smile, they spew hate, and spend every waking moment of their time criticizing the president.

      September 6, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        here's some Truth.

        If your against ILLEGAL immigration, you are either:
        1. full of hate
        2. undeducated
        3. racist

        If you are against illegal immigration, nuts like TruthDog, slap a label on you and call you an uneducated, racist, full fo hate person. There, there now. That makes him feeeeel so much better.

        September 6, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Sy2502

    "Migration is a human right."

    Uh no, sorry, it isn't. In fact, you can't just choose something you really really want and try to get it by declaring it a human right. If that was the case, I'd be saying "Owning a Ferrari is a human right" and now where's my Ferrari, fool?

    And let's stop confusing being anti illegal immigration and being anti immigration. As a LEGAL immigrant I can guarantee you I have never received any hostility from Americans, in fact they have been nothing but welcoming and friendly. I will be getting my citizenship in less than a month, and I have people cheering me and telling me how happy they are for me. This country is very welcoming to immigrants who don't thumb their nose to the law and play by the rules.

    September 6, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      Hush, that's racist. You must hate Mexicans and want babies to die. Have you no shame???

      September 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • WillyWalnuts

      Try walking into Iran illegally... think they'll recognize your human right to immigrate ?

      September 6, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
  71. LegalizeIt

    I'm all for immigration reform, but not for this "No Papers, No Fear" demonstration. If they want to be citizens of this country, go through the proper procedures like every other person who came to the U.S. and applied for their citizenship. My family came to the U.S. over 35 years ago and upon arrival, immediately applied for visas and green cards and eventually became legal citizens. I currently have friends that are still going through the naturalization process to obtain their legal status. So why should these people receive special treatment? I've come to notice that the only ethnicity complaining about immigration reform are of Mexican backgrounds. If they're tired of harassment from the authorities, heres some advice, APPLY FOR YOUR CITIZENSHIP, instead of running across the border and thinking you deserve special treatment because you've been here for an X amount of years. No matter how long you've been here, your status is still ILLEGAL.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |

    Boo Hoo. I want to be with my family, I want to play with my cousins. I'm sure you do. There's an easy way to solve that problem. Go back to Mexico.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Truthbetold

    No Papers? See you later....get rid of these people who flaunt their illegal status in our faces. Many hard working immigrants spend years waiting to enter this country because they want to do it the right way. Mexico may not be a great place to live....but its no Syria either. Get here legally if you want to be here so badly.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • aragorn

      True. I am a permanent resident in the US. But I have spent 10 years here. First getting a Masters and then working on a legal valid visa. I must have spent around 20K on my legal fees so far. It is ridiculus that these folks are here illegally and are demanding rights. Its lke me entering your house and bossing you around!!!

      September 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • m1234

        Thank you for following the rules, good luck, you will make a good citizen

        September 6, 2012 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Fran Johnston

        I am glad you are one step closer to getting your citizenship. I just wish for people like yourself it was not so expensive.

        September 6, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  74. TomAmerican

    Why do we need reformation? Why are we allowing citizens of other countries to dictate our immigration requirements? Each immigrant should not already have a criminal record, not carry a communicable disease, and prove that they will be able to be productive (other than dropping babies).

    Why should we allow anyone who doesn't fulfill those basic requirements?

    September 6, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ray


      September 6, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Gary

    When the visas ran out, "we had already started to make our lives here." WHAT PART OF THAT'S ILLEGAL DIDN'T YOU UNDERSTAND? "I blame immigration laws. They haven't adjusted to the needs of our society," Unzueta said. "OUR SOCIETY" ACTUALLY MEANS U.S. LAWS ARE NOT SERVING MEXICANS WELL SO WE WANT YOU TO CHANGE THEM.

    And they wonder why they are treated like the disrespecting, condescending, lawless people that they are.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Pat

    Sorry, illegals, this country owes you SQUAT! Be grateful that the USA doesn't treat you like your countries treat people who don't obey their laws!

    September 6, 2012 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • mikeM

      You are absolutely right. An illegal in Mexico is not treated kindly. We have not enforced the laws because having illegals working here is convenient for some and profitable to many.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
  77. snowdogg

    Childish rant for a post.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • D. Porter

      Arte you suggesting that Comrade O isn't aiding and abetting illegal alien
      parasites (a felony)? Explain....

      September 6, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
  78. snowdogg

    What I would be concerned about is possible infiltration into the US of terrorists who, under the guise of an illegal immigrant, could wreak havoc in our country. This is an aspect which I think the supporters of "no papers, no fears" have not considered.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ray

      Terrorism is not a major deal here.

      The entry of legions of unassimilables into the country has done, and will do, more damage than terrorists even can.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Your terrorist in trade for my wife?

      That's a very real threat, but as long as the immigration law deports the legitimate husbands/wives/children of U.S. citizens, you're going to have a substantial underground railroad of your fellow citizens who are more than happy to trade your potential safety for their own family and human rights...

      Immigration reform isn't just about "them", it's how our own government treats your neighbor's loved ones...

      September 6, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • mikeM

        Time to change the law. If illegal, you get deported. Take the family with you. The citizen should be arrested for subverting the law.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Alan

        What about how those " loved ones", treat this country? What about the bankrupting of a nation, the crime on many levels?

        September 6, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. Porter

        Since when does it suddenly make an invader legal by marrying a US citizen? It doesn't, pal. Get a clue.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
  79. dan

    They flee their cesspool of a country and come here in masses, slowly degrading this country, making it resemble their own.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • ALKP

      They always claim that they come here for a better life. Meanwhile, every area they live in they turn into dump. Cars on the yard, chichens, dogs and 40 kids and adults running all over the place. Right there the price of my house drops $20,000 because no one wants to live next to pigs.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • DanRyanMan

      "No Paper. No Fear"?

      This is lawlessness for a sovereign state. It also discredits what Obama administration did for young dreamers.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Phoenix

      and American government and businessmen secretly love it! Lots of uneducated people willing to work long hard hours for minium wages and no benefits.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      What is so hard to understand about the word illegal. The Democrats dont give a damn about anything but votes for Obama. Send a clear message to these invaders, pull our troops out of the middle east and put them on our southers border. Dan our country is headed over the cliff and the liberals & democrats are full throttle.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ray

        If bankers, lawyers, doctors, politicians were losing their jobs, these illegals would have never made it across the border. Wonder if this administration would enforce the laws if we were being over run by Caucasians?

        September 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • TomG

      dan – Still spouting the same nonsense that has been said for the history of the US. Only it wasn't that long ago that the "cesspools" were places like Italy, Hungary, Ireland, Russia, China, Serbia, Greece, on and on. Heck even a lot of the 17th century settlers were religious "wackos" run out of their own country.

      The places and people of changed, and a lot of other things. But the one thing that remains constant is people like you spewing hateful garbage at whoever the immigrants were. They succeeded in spite of it and are the reason for this country.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        ah, have you been to Mexico?
        what's your definition of no sewers?

        September 6, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • bignevermo

      I got news for you...the net sum of the immigration from Mexico has shifted from millions coming to millions leaving..right now for the last two years...there is no crisis of migrants/immigrants from Mexico...right now it is a zero sum game...and for the people/kids who were born here...they are US citizens...and the kids brought here at a young age...well lets have some empathy for them as it was not their fault they were born here...they are stuck in the middle...have a little compassion.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ray

        Let's not.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chris

        But that would reward the illegal parents and send the message to hundreds of millions of lations down south that we will hook up your kids if you sneak over. Basically, you want to reward the people breaking our laws, and punish the people who obey the laws. Hmmm...

        September 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • RiseAgain

        Let's have lots of compassion, and empathy, and kindness for the children of immigrants, legal and US citizens.

        You have no right to give away what is not yours to give.

        If you feel so righteous about your compassion, go serve south-of-the-border and GIVE to others, NOT TAKE FROM OTHERS.

        I'd advise you get your immigrant paper work first before entering Mexico.

        September 6, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
  80. pwilli

    I would love to live in Canada, Sweden, or Iceland but alas, I'm stuck in this crap hole. Face it folks. There are no more rights left in this world. Only risk. I aplaud these people taking a risk, but is it their right to live where ever they want to? I live in Chicago and it is busting at the brim with folk who believe that it is their right to have as many babies as they want to or cram as many people into a home that will "fit". I realize that many non docs came here for work and were exploited. The work visa system needs to be improved as does the illusion that we can do anything we want.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • SlayFalseGod

      So all the baby makers are illegals huh ?

      September 6, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • Frank

        Illegal alien baby makers are illegal in the US, unless they begin the process of legal immigration.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. Porter

        They reproduce like rabbits.... a new gang-banger larvae every 9 months.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • g.r.r.

        Actually, if you check the stats, American citizens are close to steady state. It is the illegals and the shear number of children that they have that IS causing our growth. And it is not racists to say that since it applies to all the illegals.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Mona

    Obnoxious disgusting people who are going to hurt Obama and the Democrats with Independents and Moderates. I hope they get arrested. Illegal immigrants with criminal records get bounced.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
  82. RD Carrington

    "She knew the bus, emblazoned with the words "No Papers No Fear," would be an obvious target to be stopped."

    Well "DUH" unless she expected Obama to swoop in from Charlotte and save her in person.

    "The 27-year-old mother of three had one fear: "I was thinking of my kids. I didn't know if I was going to see them again."

    And apparently she didn't give a damn either. This hypocritical and convenient whining is really too much. Arrest, deport, end of story. And get those benefit cards for the 3 kids back before she goes.

    September 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • SlayFalseGod

      Wow Jesus is must be proud of you.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Phoenix

        Jesus would have expected the 27 year old mother to OBEY the law. You didn’t see Jesus whining not to be crucified. He accepted the rule of law even when it treated him unjustly.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • agtrtrt

        Maybe-but he is more proud of your grammer.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jim

        Jesus would expect them to do the right thing. Sneaking into another country, stealing from it;s social assistance programs and breaking the laws. Im sure Jesus would be proud-NOT-!!! Maybe if they shoot them they can meet Jesus in person.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Phoenix

    What? Their standing there shouting "We're law breakers. What are you going to do about it?" in a in your face way and no one is arresting them? I bet if I stood out there and yelled "Hey I cheated on my taxes last year!" or I just robbed the bank down the street!" someone would arrest me. Arrest them and deport them. Enter legally or DO NO ENTER! Show some spine NC and arrest them all!

    ICE should be charged with treason, conspiracy (when they fail to act on a crime they know about) and dereliction of duty. If the agency is not going to do their job then end their funding and get rid of them! We already have an agency that pays people not to work , it’s called welfare!

    September 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Ray

    Deportation is absolutely necessary in cases like this. No quarter can be given. None. Zip. Nada.

    If they're not deported, expect 100 times this next time. And the next. And the next.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
    • john

      Ray: actually, that's ICE's plan! Let a few show up to protest and let them go. Next time, when a couple thousand show up to protest, send 'em packing! Saves money not having to send agents around looking for them. They can even use their own bus and fuel to cover the costs.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ray

        ICE's "plan," LOL.

        The actual plan is to let them get away with this, again and again and again, then say "it's too much trouble." Game over.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. Porter

        ICE is complicit in this invasion, genius.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Saboth

    There are reasons we have laws regarding immigration. These range from safety to social services. I'm sure at any one time there are probably 500 million people around the world that would love to move from Mexico, Africa or similar country to the US. We have 8% unemployment now. Our cities are declaring bankruptcy because they can't pay their bills. We are in the middle of a severe drought. Obviously our government and social systems cannot handle a mass influx of millions of people without collapsing. There are not enough jobs, benefits, food, water for this. Sorry about your sad stories, but we have problems of our own.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
    • SlayFalseGod

      We dont have enough money to pay our bills so removing a large chunk of the potential tax base is your answer ?
      They buy gas food pay rent .....
      Houses are empty with no renters.
      Georgia's crops are rotting on the vine.
      Keep cutting your face off to spite the nose.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Duncan

        You are a moron. What about the fact that they are an expense to us too? Deport them, our expenses go down, and we won't need their "support" to foot the bill

        September 6, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • agtrtrt

        many illegals are paid off the books so that does nothing for tax base.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jim

        Falsegod: They skip on rent, sell dope, plunder our social assistance programs and are illegal. What else needs to be said. Deport these people by the thousands and maybe they'll get the message-Not wanted here.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
  86. vr13

    This is what happens when we no longer enforce our laws. No enforcement, no fear. We are turning into the lawless country.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
  87. Susan

    Respect the immigration laws of this or any other country. Immigrate legally. Just like the immigrants from 1850 to1930 did. Mexico or any other south american country would be handling their respective illegal immigration issues the same way or worse. There is zero tolerance for illegal immigrants in Central and South America,

    September 6, 2012 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Sean

      So any people coming here before 1850, papers or no, came legally and its ok? As I have said before, the Native Americans didn't ask for our papers when we showed up...and look what we did to them. Had they known they would have been within their rights to throw us out or just kill us when we came.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cat Mom and Human Being

        Sean, thank you for saying the Native Americans didn't ask for OUR papers....it was, after all, their country. So many people are unhappy and afraid today (not to mention over-caffeinated) and they don't really know why. They just want to go back to their credit cards and believing they can have everything they want immediately without really working for it, meanwhile blaming things on people who don't look like them. Our country and the world is changing and no one can stop it (although global warming may put a big crimp in it). Have a great day!

        September 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • I missed history class...

        This is a nonsensical argument; the historic record appears to be much more complicated than you wish it to be.

        "Had they known they would have been within their rights to throw us out or just kill us when we came."

        I'm not sure "us" is the proper term here. The ancestors of most people here today most likely came after the indian question was already fairly well settled. Also, they would have been well within their right to throw us out or kill us; evidence is that's what some did with the vikings. Look back, some tried with the new settlers; others sold settlers land.

        I chalk you up to: Oops. Fail.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • TomG

      Perhaps you should do a little homework on the history of immigration laws in the US. In the timeframe you refer to there were no quotas. The restrictions – on the other hand – were lovely concepts like the original rule limiting immigrants only to "white" people (our good old founding fathers); or the 1870 law specifically forbidding Chinese workers from immigrating. Finally in the mid 1920's they did put in quotas which were designed to preserve the exact ethnic balance at the time (anual quotas set at a percentage of those ethnic groups already in the country).

      Have whatever opinion you want about what the immigration laws should be, but making up myths about "how it was" is just ridiculous.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
  88. winowmn

    "I blame immigration laws. They haven't adjusted to the needs of our society," Unzueta said.

    If you don't have papers, it is not your society.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  89. King Diallo

    Well.... Guess what its a free country

    September 6, 2012 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
    • vr13

      By the way, I think every body should be allowed to drive without paper. This is a free country and it should be everyone's right. No driving paper, no fear. Right? Wrong.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
  90. Rose

    The supreme court goofed when it allowed illegals to enter our public schools without deportation in 1975. Now we are trying to send them back? Stop illegals from getting free education and the Americans from having to foot the bill.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
  91. toa3029

    I'm totally against illegals not from being from a different country...But here's a question why is there more homeless vets than there are homeless illegal aliens????

    September 6, 2012 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
    • Sandy

      "...But here's a question why is there more homeless vets than there are homeless illegal aliens????" I'm sorry to hear there are homeless vets in the U.S.A. If the vets do not have family or friends to help them they will fall in between the cracks and will have a chance to become homeless. We need to be sensative and supportive to help everyone get back on their feet.
      Please lets find a soluation in order to move forward. We all need to help each other and we all deserve to be happy and at peace with each other.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
  92. JudgeDB

    Obviously the United States should just open its borders to everyone. We already spend a huge chunk of our national budget playing police for the rest of the world. We have no right to keep anyone out of our country because over 200 years ago some immigrants came here and killed a bunch of Indians and took their territory, so obviously those of us who weren't alive then should be held responsible and turn the US into a free hostile for the rest of the world. Never mind that most of us who's families immigrated to the US from Europe did so legally through Ellis Island. Never mind that anyone who immigrated to the northern US during the Civil War had to fight in the war in exchange for citizenship. Trying to have any sort of sovereignty in the US is obviously selfish.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
    • SlayFalseGod

      If it was Ireland to the south of Texas you would be singing a diff tune.
      Ellis Island ? Mr. Righty has been letting the illegals into this country for over a 100 years and liked it that way – cheap labor AND the workers stay non-citizens who cant vote.
      Mr. Righty wants to lower taxes. Mr. Righty wants to get rid the tax payers of Federal Workers.
      Hey Mr. Righty how are YOU going to remove 12 million illegals without raising taxes and with fewer ICE agents ?

      September 6, 2012 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
      • Concerned Voice

        ILLEGAL immigration is stealing from people who came here legalling. If you were born here, immigration is a non issue – the people who should be ticked off are the one's who spent a fortune to get here legalling – there are attorney fees and you have to wait your turn to have the paperwork processed. If someone out stays their visa, or crosses a border without paperwork they are "budging" in line in front of the person doing it correctly. Illigal immigration is not about racism as many people try to make it, it is about following the law.

        September 6, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • DavidW0909

        So by your logic then every President for the last 100 years has been a Republican? Wow, I didn't know THAT! Thank you for educating us Mr. Wizard. Oh wait, your wrong, every President has ignored this problem because it's a nasty little secret, these illegal immigrants work for cheap and keep companies producing food costs lower, if they had to pay these people fair wages guess who's going to pay, US that's who and then there really will be hell to pay. The problem is that the illegals have no respect for our society, abuse the system, overload everything, and now have become a liability to the extreme, if you can't see that then you need to get a shovel and unbury your head. This is not the fault of the Right, I'm amazed you'd even suggest it, is the Democrats that want to fast track these guys, not the GOP. Geeze, it's possible you might be a drooling doofus.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wastrel

      Your sarcasm is so heavy-handed that you risk being taken seriously.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
  93. JMissal

    So this is the result of not enforcing our immigration laws and failing to protect the borders....and it proves that these people feel as though they don't have to be afraid of getting booted out for being here illegally.

    I say put a padlock on that bus and give it a police escort to the Mexican border.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
  94. Higgs

    This is BS send them back to there own country, stupid democrats ruining the country everyday.....NOBAMA

    September 6, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
  95. Ken Meyer

    Why is this allowed to happen? Why is this country letting aliens flaunt the law in this manner? What is the problem with our elected officials that causes them disregard the legal system they were sworn to uphold?

    Sometimes it seems like the nation's government has dived into the rabbit hole.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  96. SilentBoy741

    No papers, no fear. No way you should be here.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
  97. jim

    They will get away with it because Obama needs the votes if he expects to gain another term. He doesn't care if they are illegal or not....why should he, we aren't even sure he is legal.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
    • winowmn

      How does Obama get votes from illegal aliens?

      September 6, 2012 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
    • snowdogg

      Ignorance reigns supreme in your mind.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  98. HeWhoKnowsTheTruth

    If it wasn't for the Democrates trying to "buy" the Latino vote these folks wouldn't be able to get away with it. Or, if the Latinos tended to vote Republican, the Democrates would have them deported expeditiously.

    September 6, 2012 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
    • JudgeDB

      I wish we could just deport Republicans. It would help this country out a lot...

      September 6, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
      • Gallienus

        Of course you do. You'd create a welfare state of Democrats just like Communist regeimes all over the world. Only when the money stolen from working people runs out then you'll find your economy just like Cuba or Venezuela.

        September 6, 2012 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
  99. Nick

    Please explain to me how ILLEGAL immigration is a "right"? That's ridiculous? And how is it that they can break the law by being here illegally and they aren't deported? Why are they allowed to CONTINUE to break the law by being here?!

    September 6, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • SlayFalseGod

      They have been coming for over a 100 years with our blessings.
      Most Americans have had no problem w/ cheap labor who cant vote.
      Bush and Co. had 8 years to address the problems and failed.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
      • EH?

        ...And Clinton had 8 years to address the problem. And Bush Sr. had 4 years to address the problem. And Reagan had 8 years to address the problem, which, in his case, he did, by legalizing everyone in the US before a certain date in 1988.

        Eliminate Jus Soli first. You should only be an American citizen by birth if either parent can prove that they were either a US citizen or Permanent Resident (Green Card holder) at the time of your birth. If they can, the child is a US citizen. If they can't, the child reverts to whatever status their parents were.

        And eliminate all public programs for illegals. No health care. No welfare. No public education.

        The problem of illegal immigration would solve itself.

        September 6, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  100. SUsan

    LEGAL Migration is a human right

    September 6, 2012 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
    • jim

      Where do you find that written?

      September 6, 2012 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
    • NMEast

      Susan: do you know what will happen to me if I "migrate" to another country without the permission of the government of that other country? I will be apprehended and thrown in jail. If I am lucky, I will be allowed to contact an American Embassy. If not, I will hope that my relatives or friends will worry when they don't hear from me and contact the government of said country. WHY is the U.S. expected to be any different?

      September 6, 2012 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
      • JudgeDB

        Probably because of our nonstop bragging to the rest of the world that we are better than them. That said, if you start off your visit to the US by breaking the law, you aren't welcome. We already have more people in prison than China or Russia, so we don't really need anymore criminals.

        September 6, 2012 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Susan

        Please don't misunderstand me. I was commenting on a quote from the above article which stated; "Migration is a human right."

        And my comment was, (legal) migration is a human right.

        September 6, 2012 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Jazzmanok

      There is no such thing as legal migration. We are not talking about geese here. Every country on the planet has laws affecting how, when and why people can enter or remain in their country. And these laws are as important as the laws against murder or theft. Disregard the laws at your own peril. Similarly, if a parent breaks the law and puts their children in an illegal position, why is the US government's job to go to "great pains" to solve the problem of splitting families? Where is the responsibiliy and accountability of the parents? Crime is defined by laws. If most people don't want to change the laws, they are still the law.

      September 6, 2012 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
      • RD Carrington

        They're not Geese – a good analogy!

        September 6, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • mike

        What you outlined is exactly the point Susan was making. LEGAL migration (i.e. becoming a citizen of another country by legally immegrating and fulfilling all legal citizenship requirements of that country) is a right. That is contrasted with illegal immegration... i.e. sneaking into a country and enjoying that country's taxpayer subsidized standard of living without actually becoming a citizen of that country or fulfilling the legal obligations common to the citizens of that country.

        The people who organized this protest are obviously intelligent... some of them even have significant means at their disposal. So... it baffles me as to why none of these people have engaged themselves in the naturalization process. If you're ignorant of the process... that's fine, there are people who will educate you and then send you on your way. But if you KNOW about the process, and you have the ability to complete that process, why don't you? Moreover, why do you then look at the citizens of the United States and expect to recieve sympathy from them? Sorry... if you like this country enough to live here, you need to like this country enough to make yourself a part of it. If you refuse, you don't get to live here... that's just how it works (in every nation in the world, as far as I am aware)

        September 6, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • bccream

      People like Jim and NMEast cannot tell the difference between the word LEGAL and ILLEGAL, I have no for them all Mexican looking and Spanish speaking are illegals.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
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