Immigrants lead plunge in U.S. birth rate
By Moni Basu, CNN
(CNN) - It makes sense that since the start of the recession, the birth rate in America has been declining.
In 2011, it dipped to the lowest rate ever recorded: 63.2 per 1,000 women between 15 and 44, the prime childbearing ages, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
That plunge was led by immigrant women, according to a Pew Research Center analysis released Thursday.
The birth rate for U.S.-born women declined 6% between 2007 (when the recession began) and 2010. However, the rate for foreign-born women plunged 14%, more than in the 17 years before the downturn.
Both foreign- and U.S.-born Hispanic women had larger drops in birth rate than any other group, Pew found. That correlates with larger percentage declines in household wealth for Hispanics than in white, black or Asian households.
Among women from Mexico, the country from where the largest number of U.S. immigrants come, the birth rate fell by 23%.
"If you apply the common sense lens here, when it comes to decisions about when to have children, how many and how to space them, the economy clearly matters," said Bill Albert, spokesman for the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy.
Even so, Albert warned that any single reason is unlikely to explain an issue as complex as national fertility rates and as profound and personal as the decision to have children.
He said other factors - including people choosing to get married at a later age and a 48% decrease in teen birth rates since their peak in 1991 - may also be playing a role in the decline of the nation's overall birth rate.
The drop reversed a trend in which immigrant mothers were responsible for a rising share of births in the United States, Pew found. In 2007, for instance, foreign-born mothers accounted for 25% of U.S. births, compared with 16% in 1990. In 2010, that share dropped to 23%.
The Pew report's co-author, Gretchen Livingston, said birth rates among foreign-born women have been higher than native-borns for a variety of reasons.
The 2010 birth rate for foreign-born women was 87.8 per 1,000, nearly 50% higher than the rate for U.S.-born women, the Pew report said. Of the 4 million births in America, 930,000 were to immigrants.
Many new mothers are Hispanics, who traditionally have had more children than U.S.-born women, Livingston said.
Immigrants are less educated on average and are more likely to be married. Some bring with them cultural norms from their homelands that can dictate a necessity to have several children.
"What we see with immigrants coming into this country is, they tend to reflect birth rates in their own country," said Robert Walker, president of the Population Institute in Washington.
In some cases, immigrant family sizes can rise as income levels go up in America. The gloomy economy in the past few years has clearly played a role in having fewer children, he said.
Among the Pew study's other findings:
• A majority of births to U.S.-born women (66%) in 2010 were to white mothers, while the majority of births to foreign-born women (56%) were to Hispanic mothers.
• Teens account for a higher share of births to U.S.-born moms (11% in 2010) than to immigrants (5%). That number is linked to the age profile of immigrants.
• Immigrant women accounted for fully 33% of births to women 35 and older in 2010.
Livingston pointed to how the overall birth rate of the United States has stayed relatively constant compared with that of some European nations that have experienced declining populations. Immigrant women in America, she said, have held that number up.
The Pew Research Center's projections indicate that immigrants will continue to play a large role in U.S. population growth: Immigrants arriving since 2005 and their descendants will account for 82% of U.S. population growth by 2050.
The report said this about the future: "Even if the lower immigration influx of recent years continues, new immigrants and their descendants are still projected to account for most of the nation’s population increase by mid-century."
It's difficult to say how birth rates will be affected when the economy improves and people feel fatter in their pocketbooks. Population experts say it's a fair assumption that the birth rate may go up again. One thing is for sure: The face of America will look very different in a few decades.
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The downfall of a once Great nation. SAD!
what about the billions of people coming from India taking every accounting job & owning all the businesses and all the slots in the universities
Americans are worried about Mexicans while Indians and Chinese flood into the US and will be taking over. California is already lost to Asians. They come in scores and produce in very high numbers. Realize that Mexico's population is only 110 million while China and India's populations add up to 3 billion. And nobody should come up with the utter nonsense of being legal and illegal. There are a lot of legal Indians and Chinese in this country who don't at all fit in, they don't speak English and they get dressed as if back home while taking a shower once every other week. Americans in their right mind would prefer an illegal alien who fit in over these people any day. Don't fall for the games, your attention is diverted. If no action is taken, USA and Europe will turn into majority Chinese/Indian nations.
Diane- yes, thank you. I think the good news is you are correct, the fact that asians and indians will out number the rest of us. These cultures understand, and respect self-responsibility. Thank god, they are the last on this planet to hold this wonderful principal. The blacks and others do not like this fact for good reason, this vast group of people will demonstrate to all of us what the American dream is really about- working for success. Not being entertainers, sports heros etc. Developing ideas/products and services that actually have value to others..., the faster we get these groups integrated in to our society, be better chance this country has to survive in the new decades. Welcome Asians and Indians, we admire you.
What a biased slanted way of expressing the stats. What they are really saying is that in the past where immigrants had say 7 kids, now they are having 5. Yes this is a big 'drop' in birth rate 'led' by immigrants, but the fact is they still breed like rabbits or Palestinians.
ABC's 20/20 filmed a evangelical couples for the past several years for their big family, this year they have 18 children. The husband told the journalist that he didn't apply any welfare but when the journalist shot back,"But you take 18 child tax credit every year." He was speechless. Still, even w/o health insurance(a local doctor offered free care for the family) and having to buy clothes in goodwill, the couples vowed to compete with other family who has 21 children. This whole group has no birth control, and every couples have over a dozen children w/o intention to stop producing a child. It's also appalling to hear their children would also follow their parents' path to have children as many as they can. Have those people even thought about the rest of the world? Or are they only living in the fantasy of their bible
All mormons I know have more than 3 kids.
I would like to know where these facts came from. Every Spanish speaking female that I see has four or more kids following along after her, one in the basket and another in her basket. Then she pays for groceries with food stamps. They don't want to control the population and have a baby when they can not when they want a baby. We support them and why not over populate the earth.
You're absolutely right! Your anecdotal evidence from trips to Walmart is clearly more valid than the numbers Gallup and Pew come up with. They're just major organizations that conduct population surveys that are trusted by every major news outlet, but you're some guy armed with stereotypes
Flawless Victory! Me thinks me may be smitten.
Well the Walmart in this GEORGIA country town I live in is full of poor white women with a bunch of little kids
and many of them are with those Mexicans you all hate. Get over it.
I'm a Spanish speaking female with only one child. I also have other Spanish speaking friends and family members, who only have less than 3 children each. Conversely, I have many English-only speaking friends (yes, the blonde, blue-eyed variety) who have 4, 5, and even 6 children each. And, I'm in Texas–just hours away from Mexico.
Every white Mormon I know has lots of kids.
Too bad that the story doesn't point out that the number of Hispanic kids living in poverty now exceeds the number of non Hispanic White kids who do. Nothing like importing poverty.
The idea of unlimited freedoms, assumed a much higher caliber of human, with the capacity to understand the concept, of self-responsibility.
the great shame of America is this continued obsession with race and superficial diversity. the US is no longer a nation of individualism and importunity, it is the nation of conformism and fairness
Well said Josh.
No, the great shame of America is it's obdurate inability to redact and spell, in it's only one language.
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND E-VERIFY IS WHAT THE COUNTRY NEED BADLY...EVERYBODY FROM POOR COUNTRIES IS TRYING TO COME TO AMERICA. AMERICA HAVE 50 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED–UNDER EMPLOYED , WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO TAKE IN MORE PEOPLE..
@Jorge
Way to go Jorge!! Post on this board about Americans redacting and spelling improperly, all the while displaying your lovely trolling abilities as a true hypocrite!! In our "only one language", we correctly say "its" without the apostrophe to indicate the possessive. Adding an apostrophe makes the contraction short for "it is", so repeat your statement again and replace "it's" with "it is", and you can see how you hypocritized yourself....
*its
Wow
When filtered by ethnicity, African Americans are the ONLY racial group that is still maintaning a relatively high birth rate. As mentioned in this article all other minority groups have decline birth rates in recent years.
I don't think so. I'm encountering fewer and fewer single Black parents in my travels. These young women are beginning to realize babies cost money, and they can't live the life they want collecting welfare, and using birth control until they get a husband or committed partner.
if you think thats true then you dont travel very often, or you only travel to places where they dont live
you obviously dont "travel" often to any diverse places, and if yo only see African american women in your "travels" then wee you live is non-diverse. The group of women who collects the most welfare is white women.
And in North Texas it is hispanic women. So yes diversity at its finest.
"The group of women who collects the most welfare is white women."
that's because whites outnumber blacks in the u.s. by almost 6 times. relative to their % of the population, blacks are the largest welfare recipients.
It is strange that people devide by shade rather than Haplogroup or national origan.
Rick, our welfare offices here in Texas are filled to the max with 90% hispanic women.
Here we go again. another racist making up her own statistics so she can justify being a racist. LOL
The birth rate is amazingly even slowing down in India. You don't have to have a Ph.D. in statistics to know that this old planet is tiring of humans.
I keep hearing that we need to help the people in Africa. The only way that I will donate to them is in the form of birth control. What does it take to understand that if you already have a large hungry family of children the worst thing is to add more? These people seem to expect others to feed their families. Sad but true. The more they have the more money they can get. There is nothing more tragic than a hungry baby. Never does anyone dare speak the words BIRTH CONTROl when speaking about helping the Congo or Africa.
I will not give to feed the starving masses if there is no birth control included in the efforts. I will not contribute to FEED & BREED.
I meant the projected decrease is a good thing. Too bad it won't last.
That's good news indeed! Almost all of our current troubles, both environmental and economic are due to overpopulation.
This is a good thing.
Except anyone in healthcare can tell you the anchor parade is still in full swing. Pew always sides with the illegals to make them look favorable.
Thats what western elites say. Our environmental problems are due to the incredible waste of natural resources and pollution in the western world.
"The death rate fell. Famine became rarer. The population growth rate was cut in half, thanks chiefly to the fact that as babies stop dying, people stop having so many of them. Over the past 50 years, worldwide food production per capita has risen, even as the global population has doubled. Indeed, so successful have farmers been at increasing production that food prices fell to record lows in the early 2000's...Meanwhile, family size continues to shrink on every continent. The world's population will probably never double again." Look up "S-curve". It's a statistical function that so far has been used to model the population. We're coming over the curve.
"And how do I know their illegals? Easy, by the way they look at me when I talk and ask "habla english?""
Ah, but you don't know the differenc between the possessive pronoun "their" and the contraction "they're" (they are), so I'm not sure of your heritage or education. 😛
Don't trust the English language proficiency of someone who cannot differentiate between their and they're.
I'd usually agree with all the said above on this but just wanted to point out, Nazism is alive and well these days. It just has a word before it now. Grammar.
People in Nevada, are very terrible with their spelling and grammar, you would think they weren't from the U.S. its so sad. I mean most people in the U.S. are not as proficient with the English language as I'd like them to be. "I did good", no...you did well. Stuff like that.
There's No Money, No Hope and No Future so no reason to have kids.
re: No Money, No Hope and No Future- so true, but if one's culture makes fatherless "families", and other non-responsible behavior that freedom allows, you end up with with huge government programs designed to perpetuate this dependency problem(crisis really). The lack of personal responsibility by multi-generational American hyphenated malcontents has guaranteed more of the same, along with any who believe in that clown that in resides vatican. "god" doesn't want you stop, limit, or even think about birth-control.
Hopefully it stays that way. I'd rather this entire planet have negative population growth for several generations since there's no reason whatsoever to have 3 billion people on this planet let alone 7.
Why don't you volunteer to be the first?
How do you know this poster has not already done so?
If you must have children take one of the orphans.
Why would I want someone else's Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, problem child?
I am also a proponent of negative population growth and backed it up by deciding not to have children myself at age 18 (1969) as I could already see what was going to end up happening by the end of the century. I am now early 60's and so glad I made that choice so long ago. For starters: Why do we allow people that would never be allowed to adopt a child to breed child after child, totally out of control, in this dangerously overpopulated world? Food for thought....
Regardless the financial situation,every family shouldn't have more than 3 children, let alone people on welfare. There have not enough jobs to support the ongoing population, more old folks cannot afford to retire early. Worse, scary water supple are predicated frightening, those elements are critical for the large population.
Definitely agree. Anyone who knows how to calculate exponents realizes that if the population continues to increase eventually the weight of all the people on the planet will increase to more than the weight of the earth – an impossible situation. Anyone who knows logic realizes that this means that eventually population growth must become zero or negative. There are two scenarios possible – either we limit population growth by choice or we experience population decline due to disaster, i.e., wars, famines, floods. The time is now to start working on negative population growth. We need to make birth control available everywhere – even Saudi Arabia and the Vatican. Abortion must stay legal. It is the only way we can save lives on earth.
Ditto
I hate to have to tell you this, but the people on the planet will never add weight to the planet. All the mass and matter making up the people came from the Earth. We are in a closed environment which is actually losing mass in things we eject into space, including atmosphere, and all the space junk we have sent up.
We're going to get up to 10. How you act like that's the U.S. fault having maybe 380 million people in an area that could easily fit 1 bil, I don't know. It's not the Western World that needs to have a negative population, we need to educate women in 3rd world countries. When the education of women rises, the fertility rate lowers, just honest truth. So instead of taking the Hitler route, we should maybe take a more civil "educate them" route. If you want the population of the world to lower itself, donate to causes that educate women in 3rd world countries.
"How you act like that’s the U.S. fault having maybe 380 million people in an area that could easily fit 1 bil, I don’t know." One Billion People? No more worries about immigration issues, just total collapse of the ecosystem.
If you want to control the population of the world, stop sending food aid, medical aid, water purification aid and all other aid to those in countries that cannot support their own population.
Absolutely and neither I nor my husband have contributed to the population of humans on this planet.
I can not agree with this article. First of all no one enjoys doing surveys. Second off what we're their sources? As far as illegals high birthrates my opinion is this: living in downtown PHX in an all Mexican neighborhood I can assure whoever that many illegals has a high amount of kids in their household. And how do I know their illegals? Easy, by the way they look at me when I talk and ask "habla english?" Which they shake their heads no and roll their eyes...on that subject why do anyone come to a place to live and go out their way to not speak the native language of that country? It makes no sense to me.
I strongly believe this article is populated with many mendacities. To what end, I have no clue?
Hispanics, especially Mexicans, do NOT procreate based on economics. They procreate based on socio-religious reasons.
Empirical evidence clearly shows their birthrate has NOT subsided.
So, what manipulation is behind this article?
I wonder.
Right up to this day there are neibourhoods in Baltimore where the elderly Italians can't speak any English, just as there was a time when not all German immigrants could speak English and neither did all the Dutch nor did the all Polish or the Vietnamese for that matter. Kudos to all you Tea party racist types that could speak perfect English the minute you were dropped at the Ellis island. What an idiot.
Tea party racists can't even speak English themselves, having been born and raised here. What they speak is called "uneducated racist". Just the other day (I live in NV, where we unforntunately have tea party people), in a college class we were talking about, why we never see anyone who is in the tea party in college, well its simply, because they don't go to college. Most of them have high school diplomas and are just jealous/scared of the changing world they can't fit into.
Lol it must feel good to make statements that feel good, but are really lies. The fact is that tea party members tend to be college educated. That is the truth. Look it up for yourself.
"what we're there sources"? Your grasp of English is so good, I can see why you would expect someone to learn a new language in a couple of years, no problem. You're what, 50? You haven't got it yet.
Stop having so many babies.
Maybe it's the hospital bills, what does it cost to pop a baby out these days $15-$20k?
Good, maybe because they see the writing on the wall they have slowed their breeding.
Guess they do not want to haul their brood back over the broder with them when they get deported. Or, states are curbing the welfare they get so what is the point of having another baby if it is not going to be another jackpot for the parent?
"Immigrant" doesn't automatically mean "illegal immigrant".
Maria, if you ask me, if you can spell you are welcome to this country.
You are correct. But is does mean weak, cowardly PC reporting because it can be read either way.
What does being able to spell have to do with being an american...? People can be so full of themselves. How many of you perfectly know a second language huh? And since some immigrants are coming to america too old for public school, they won't have the education you all had. All I see here is racism and ignorance. I went through schooling here and i barely know the 3rd language I was trying to study because it's hard! Why jump down people's throats for little things??
Elli, I agree that it is nitpicky to focus on one's spelling, but don't dismiss all the arguments for reduction of immigration levels due to the frustration of many writers who become a little too loose with their words.
Funny how they're are more U.S. born women on welfare than immigrants in most states. So blame your precious white women, and maybe your hated black women (hey I'm both of those so I can't hate on either), for the "I'm having another baby for welfare" mentality.
oh that's right if your black and talk about blacks you can't possibly be racist OMG! someone please give zavier a dictinoary and look up racisim you are as racisists as they come zavier -->>>> (zaviers qoute) "So blame your precious white women, and maybe your hated black women (hey I'm both of those so I can't hate on either)"
seeing that its political incorrect to call anyone an immigrant how can they say the numbers are down? if we counted all people with in the US who are not citizens then the number will be triple of what the liberal agenda report would be. this is nothing more then another attempt by the liberals to downplay our illegal immigration problem
It's politically incorrect to refer to someone as an *illegal* immigrant (even if that's what they are). But not all immigrants are illegal.
Millions of illegals in this Country for your information! all the Cubans who came here by boat are ILLEGALS like a Mexican or others who cross the borde ,go to Miami it is called Cuba's capital is all Cubans ,now you tell me not everyone immigrant here is illegal? all of them remember !
You can be an immigrant AND a U.S. citizen. Immigrant means you were not born in the US, but you can be naturalized or have a green card. People tend to be so misguided about the word.
99.99% of the Cubans in Miami are legal residents, either naturalized U.S. citizens or green card holders. U.S. law has a provision that encourages Cubans to come to the U.S. illegally and grants them automatic asylum upon entry, it is called Cuban Adjustment Act. So, they are not really illegal if the U.S. is inviting them to come in by whatever means and gives them papers immediately.
Yeah don't believe this guy about cubans, a lot of them came over in the early 90s and are completely legal immigrants. Man most of them have U.S. citizenship by now, some of them don't, some of them still very much so think of them as cubans, but most of the people you are talking about are extremely naturalized, and a good portion of them were children when they came over, thus growing up in the American education system which everyone knows is just a place to naturalize you into being a propoer American more than it is to give you any useful education (hey I'm in college now, I really didn't learn jack squat, even being in Honors and AP level classes, in highschool, that helped me in college, we need to revamp that, emphasis on logic in grade school would help)
Well yeah, hispanic women are going from 8 kids to 2 to 3 kids. Its kind of a no brainer, other groups have already had that birth rate for a while now.
PS- it sounds like they are ignoring the Catholic church on this. kudos.
No, they just hardly see each other anymore b/c both are working 2 jobs to support the family they have. When they do see each other instead of fooling around, they go right to sleep.
They are not ignoring the Catholic Church mthey just don't care ,the Government is taking care of this kids ,they get free foo,free education free everything ,this is the ony Country in th eworld who welcome illegals ,that is why this Country is going down ,pretty son weall will be cleaning toilettes in China ,this Country is going to be a third world Country pretty soon! this people use and abuse the system like crazy I see it every day ,come to Florida and you will see !
It is about time that people in this country start taking some responsibility for their actions, esp. in their personal lives. I do not care what people do in their own bedrooms, but I should not have to provide $$$$ to support irresponsible parents.
What $$$ goes to a parent? Can you name a few people and say how many dollars where given to him or her. By specific and use real examples of real people. If this is very common you should be able to find many examples.
I work with a gal who has one child by a previous boyfriend. She gets state aid (in other words, she gets part of my paycheck). She recently got a raise. She cut her hours because the few extra dollars she was earning cost her more money in lost state aid than she got from the raise. Now she's pregnant again by he new, ex-boyfriend she just kicked out. More of my paycheck going to support someone who won't act responsibly.
You MUST be kidding, cja.
Never heard of "welfare"?
And how many 6 month old babies are standing in line applying for food stamps, unemployment, so on?
Give me an example of a two-year-old crossing this border illegally, and we will call it even.
Allowing third world people with third world procreative habits to migrate to a country where they can take advantage of a welfare state is insane.
Eventually we will become a third world country ourselves (all for trying to help others).
This is indeed a good thing. We are in an age of technology. Computers and electronics are now taking over in every way shape and form. We have more people than jobs in this country. It's time to be responsible.
David, as mechanization keeps on happening, we are going to lose even more jobs. The fact is that we have to find a way to give people OTHER kinds of jobs than just warehouse and retail for people who are not cut out for higher education.
The less humans the better quality of life on this planet. But I suspect this trend will reverse soon enough, and we will crank our way up and beyond the 8 billion mark soon enough.
I live near 30 Latino families and every house hold has five to eight kids, all Immigrants who have told me they have kids to get help from the U.S And has Family that help claim there kids so they can get as much income tax back as they can, Using tax I.d.s, Ive seen some of them send there kids to mexico once they turn 13 so they can have more children, One lady pops one out every year it is sad,
It's reckless behavior run a muck and it has to stop!
So you've gone door to door and asked them all about their situations and they just came clean about it?
I bet 10K that you are lying and you belong to the GOP.
Funny how nobody cares.
I live in L.A. and I question what area their survey sources came from because in the section where I live (the South Bay area) I see a bit of a baby boom. I see expectant women from all walks of life everywhere I go, now days. Also, I'm a so-called "Latina" (American of Mexican ancestry) who opted to stay single and childless and I recall that about 10-15 years ago, other Hispanic folks would question my decision, but that's just not the case anymore. I see more and more American women of Hispanic decent opting to remain single and childless as a means to retain a better quality of life. Plus, children were once seen as a necessity, whereas now I think they're a luxury.
Malinche, if you want your genetics and family to go into the future? Children ARE a necessity of life and everyone should have at least one child.
Your genetics don't have to go into the future! I'm 47 and childless by choice. If I wanted a kid, I'd adopt one that already existed, not make another mouth to feed. If everyone practices genetic vanity, the world will become too crowded for anyone.
I think that's exactly what the article says. They're not claiming that nobody is having babies, there is a slight down tick even among both immigrant and American-born latinas like yourself. I ask all the other bashers on here: who is going to be working to pay for your old asses if nobody has kids or there isn't immigration? Every two people need to have two kids just to keep up. Our economy and retirement programs are not based on just keeping up, they're reliant on economic growth....we need to grow our population at a modest rate in order to remain succesful. I'm sorry if you are white and dissapointed that in 50 years most people will not be, but it's going to happen and it's not all bad. Tell your white kids to have at least two babies if you really want to do something about it.
When I'm old and can no longer take care of myself, I'll sell my house and move into either assisted living or a nursing home. That's what children do to their parents anyway. Having a child to take care of me in my old age? What planet are you living on?
Did you ever hear of climate change? The proposal that ever increasing population is the only way to survive is patently unsustainable, it's a pyrimand scheme.
Squeezebox, who will pay for your medicaid? If you have a pension, who will be contributing to further the fund? Who will pay taxes if the size of the working population decreases? The available money will go down, we need young workers to contribute to society and the system.
Bobby, you are talking about a pyramid scheme with each generation needing to be larger and larger. Where does the population growth end? With this scheme, it doesn't.
Love the way the media and everyone that counts statistics always put women in the minority category when there are more women than men in the United States.
You don't understand what "minority" means, do you? It's not just about the numbers, bub.
Yes, minority simply means any group who is not the majority. The idea, or stereotype, that minorities cannot be successful is just that. Asian-Americans are a minority, even thought household income is higher than whites. By 2050 we may all be minorities in one sense or another. I believe women are in the majority by a slight bit.
America is a big melting pot, look around, most people are with multiracial background. I once went to a birthday banquet, there were all different races in the place from all around the country, it's so touchable to being one of them.
Wow Cambridge Ray. You are SERIOUSLY fixated on segregating people into groups and on people's race and religion. Why can't people learn to judge people on their own merits instead of on stereotypes. Tsk, tsk Ray!
Actually it "looks like" there's no support at all. Why is nobody surprised except maybe you?
As a Muslim, I agree.
Hello Allah Speaking. Nobody is listening, and no one cares. Except religious lemmings. And masses of sadly mistaken Arabs.
Who are you talking to? Making a statement like this in this forum is not appreciated. Mind your manners.
hello allah, crawl back into your make-believe world.
PLUNGE to ZERO......the PERFECT number! We don't need anymore humans on this planet....give it back to the animals and birds and trees so it will RECOVER! Humans destroy EVERYTHING in their path!
Maybe you should set an example to us all by going first.
no way...their culture sucks.
As a God, I agree and do not want my children to be swayed by racism. Good point my friend.
Good, less children, more money, more freedom, hey everyone wins
Wrong. Fewer people = less GDP = smaller markets. It is a bad thing for capitalism. Demand goes down, labor costs go up, and tax revenue declines which means the govt cannot pay for services. All in all, low birthrates spell global economic calamity.
You're forgetting about the interchangability of capital for labor. Machines are doing more and more of the things we humans used to do. Robot cars are becoming reality, dude! Capitalism will be just fine as long as there are buyers.
Population can't go up indefinitely.
Anyway, I see no reason for government to interfere as people are making the choice to have less than 2 children in most developed nations, and developing nations are following the same trend.
The only global catastophe that is going to happen is the one where the producers can't produce anymore.
And no, I am not a member of the GOP.
I call BS on this article.
Based on........?
Because it means one more of the GOP talking points was complete BS?
It would be interesting to see what increase the Indians caused? Where I work they are popping out babies like crazy,
Indians make up less than 1% of the US population so wouldn't be much of an effect, you're probably just in an area that's more densely populated by South Asians which would skew perception
I propose that all Pakistani citizens be provided American citizenship. Please remember that Pakistan is a front line state fighting terrorism. As an American, I vote for this. Do you agree?
Pakis? You can't be serious.
Ha, ha, your joking.
No, please I'm not. Afterall they are fighting terrorists against America. Front line state fighting terrorism. Please reconsider. Thank you.
This is not a good idea and not to Pakistan. They are milking money from us and using the monies against us. Impossible suggestion.
no way...they're culture sucks.
You mean the country where Osama bin Laden lived?
But keep in mind Pakistanis were surprised that Osama was living amongst them. They were completely unaware. Had no clue.
it is in koran that Osama would be killed in Pakistan
Thanks, but NO THANKS.
Have you ever read the story about the Trojan Horse? I didn't think so. We have. Nice try though.
How can Paki's be surprised about Bin Laden when it was within an earshot of their military academy. Also, India had stated such for years. THEY NEW HE WAS THERE.
You mean the country that was knowingly housing Osama Bin Laden?
Pakis aren't fighting anything, they're playing both sides for their own advantage! Nothing for Pakistan until they choose a side and stick to it!
You mean there is hope for America, yet?
Yes; If all Pakistanis are immediately provided American citizenship and provides a monetary compensation of $5000 atleast.
To Dale N.M. Anglos are a minority in New Mexico because New Mexico was once Mexico. Mexicans have lived in New Mexico for time and all eternity. This is why Anglos are a minority in New New Mexico.
thats right white should go back where they came from
and before the mexicans(spanish) the pueblo indians occupied what is now new mexico, so
D.B. If you mean by Mexicans, Native Americans, and if you mean by all eternity, for the last 10,000 years, than I'd agree with you.
This will come like news to many that have fixed biases on hispanic as their dogma. But that ethinc group generally has in mind the well being of their family to-come as they no longer believe that kids are heaven-sent. The economy, however, and the people's need to explore other things before getting into the responsibility that two or more children brings makes them think twice and wait longer, hence the plunge.
The problem will show itself better in about 18 years when there will not be as big a supply of healthy-battle-ready boys ready to defend the American way of life...
Women's groups,N.O.W.,and pro abortion groups have proven that children are not a blessing from God but a hindrance to a woman's carreer.
really!!! ask the mormons who are mostly whites
@joseph-Mormons ? what do they have to do with this ?
Well . . .yeah. They're a blessing if you want them and a hindrance if you don't want them, much like anything else in life.
the 18 year olds will be mostly mexican and they will fight to return the southwest to mexico,
I doubt it. Being an American citizen is a great honor and being part of the American society a privilege, Even if one does not forget the old country,still has a big love and sweet feelings for it, and definitely roots for the Tri, the USA is our country. And even at times when nobody wants us, we will stick around for the duration and will make sure our country persists against whatever enemies threatening our moms and our apple pies.
Even "illegal immigrants are realizing that the more kids one has,the more likely they will grow up in poverty .It's the reason why most educated folks only have one or two nowadays,just good economic sense.
America for the Americans! Does it mean for the white people or for the brown ones. poor whity America is looking more brown.
u said well pepe. more brown and white will b gone
Who are these people trying to fool?
I don't buy it either.
Once again, your comment misses the mark. There are numerous sound reasons why immigration levels need to be curbed. Environmental reasons are perhaps the most pressing. The north american continent is a vastly different place than it was when the Pilgrams landed. And there is also the rule of law that every soverign country has a right and an obligation to enforce and which the illegal immigrant show scant regard.
Speaking of pilgrims, I'm sure natives would have liked to keep them out too. I mean, it is not like today's immigrants are bringing you smallpox and telling you to convert to their religion or die.
Once again, there are enough sound reasons to argue against the high immigration levels and illegal immigration without having to resort to questioning how safe or moral this incoming immigrants are. I believe that there are a lot of good people coming in as immigrants, I just think that at this point in time, we have more than a sufficient supply of people and I believe that lawful entry is not asking too much. Not every down-and-out person/family can come to this country–there is simply not enough space. Do not misconsture that I think all immigrants are down-and-out but many that come in are unskilled and end up on public assistance of one type or another. And, looking back, I'm sure as well that many Native Americans probably wish they had kept the White Man at bay but that point is moot to the current discussion. For the record, I am not Anti-Immigrant but I do believe in lawful entry and a more reasonable level of immigration in general.
Human existence= >10000 years. Native American North America Occupation=<2000 years. Any questions about the remaining 8000 years. You want original habitants, go back to the beginning and not at the end.
A majority of births to U.S.-born women (66%) in 2010 were to white mothers. What's the problem, No more Kennedy clans that take up an entire pew in church. So birth control kept quiet by Catholics maybe the problem or is it the solution. We made it threw the great depression. Where the majority of white people were given handouts. You can keep whining or you can take the hat off.
I'd like to note that during that time there weren't very many of other groups. Whites were the big majority...so it's not hard to imagine they benefited from handouts at the time.
and the only handout at the time was the soup at the end of the soup lines.
Spell check is your friend.
I tries...lol #try
Lay off the Irish, what have they ever done to anyone?
How screwd up is the Duke Eye Center in Durham? They charged me $16,000 for right eye cat surg. Two months later, they charged me $18,000 for the left eye surg. Same doc same procudure same complexity same medicine. Called on 10-30-12 & again this morning 11-30-12. They haven't done a darm thing on my compliant of billing error. How long does it take a Duke genius to compare just 2 numbers & esplain the screw up? The problem has not been solved yet.
There are only 5 items in the bill 4 seem to match. Just the medication part doesn't. $2500 Vs $4500 for the same medicine amount & dose size.
If Duke can't do it (compare 2 numbers in 30 days & esplain), red necks in Kentucky certainly can't.
Now if only the illegal alien crowd would follow that up with a return back to where ever they came from.
I guess it never occured to you that perhaps his French parents, grandparents, came here LEGALLY?
Legal is a relative term. Founding father were all illegals.
just how do you figure that?
Or that he made up the name for an anonymous comment board?
No chance vato...we r here to stay!!! Arriba arriba. Haha
Apparently the number of illegal immigrants popping out anchor babies weren't counted. I live in Houston, and my wife says that her OB/GYN's office looks like a third-world country every time she arrives for an appointment! Not only are they receiving Medicaid for their anchor babies, but they're using Medicaid to see higher-end doctors.
I live 30 miles SW of Houston. It is pretty much little Mexico. I graduated in 2006 and my graduating class was 54% Hispanic.
SW Houston? Dude, I'm pretty sure that IS Mexico. When we moved here seven years ago, my wife's parents told us that "If you're white, don't move to South Houston. You'll be dead in six months."
and I don't think they are saying Gracias to the taxpayers who are supporting them
Gracias!!! Thank you!!
Jrod, you're an idiot. Texas is not a third world country/state any more than New York is. The entire state is not a desert – the west part is. Texas does have the 8th largest economy in the WORLD. Houston is the 4th largest U.S. city. Ever hear of NASA?
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Maybe you should bother to learn something before you speak. We're still waiting for the East Coast population to discover the rest of the continent.
Texas has NASA and a majority of racists! 😉
Since your wife is there for an appointment I can assume she's there as a patient. In which case, how would she know who's illegal and who's on medicaid?
Well said, Janet!
An illegal came to Tx. and had 3 kids. 2 kids have medical problems and are on Medicaid. Instead of sending this woman and her children back to Mexico, the taxpayers in Tx. are now forced to provide her with not only Medicaid, but also welfare. All you have to do is come here over or under a fence, and you and your illegal kids have it made.
Wow generous America!
In Texas, there are millions doing the same thing. Not just the one you witnessed. Too bad states are starting to figure out we can't afford illegals and there demand for free social services much longer. Texas schools are overcrowded and illegals have pushed their nonspeaking English children in the mix to help complicate the matter worse. Parkland hospital(illegal sanctuary hospital) has went broke 3 times in the last 5 years. See any relation? Of course if you are hispanic, everything about the USA and its laws are bad. I say to them, why are you here? Your former countries were left for a reason, and now this land that may give you opportunity is now you major complaint. You are breaking our laws don't forget that.
How much CO2, trash,water use,heat do 13 millions illegals(felons) use? ask Al Gore!! or the EPA.
This is a good thing because the world and the US are becoming too over populated. It is most likely possible because of government assistance in obtaining birth control, which every person with a brain should support.
Anyone who works in healthcare can tell you this is an outright lie to draw attention away from the stratospheric births of illegals and anchors.
OH right! the CDC is lying again.
Lowering immigrant populations? Where? On Mars?
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Oh, wait - this is from the government that says our borders are more secure than ever, right? The same government that claims they had no info on Benghazi, right? The same type of politician who said he'd not run again for office if he didn't get _____, _________, and _________ fixed during his 1st four years?
Add in the births of the illegals and then we have reality. Oh, wait the illegals are no longer that they are "people of deferred action status." ...... But I digress .....
We will remember your comments in the next election.. Good Bye republican party..!!
Yes! The face of the nation will surely change. But I wouldn't bring up an improving economy. As the traditional population fades, the economy will become more like the countries our new, fellow citizens came from. : (
Yeah Bob, glad I will be long gone by then. When you have folks that make no effort to even learn English and try to make this country another Latin America, all our efforts to be a forward, higher educated country is down the drain. Just take a look at Miami and about half of the towns and cities in California, broke, crime rate way up there and an overcrowded broken education system.
Sure don't look that way to me!!!
I don't know how to tell you this, but gays and lesbians can and do have babies. Just because someone is a gay or lesbian doesn't mean they no longer have their reproductive organs.
There are a lot of immigrants from Europe and other developed countries in the US.
There was never a 'plunge' resulting from gays/lesbians.
FiftyFive, it really would have been easier if you had just replied "I really don't know how to make an argument, so I'll just say something generally pointless like 'you must be reading comic books".
Again, I ask you for one shred of evidence of this having occurred. Your lack of providing any evidence clearly shows that this has never happened. Thanks for making this easy for me.
Juan solis-a Chicago politician has stated this before,as other Mexican politicians in Illinois have,theres your one example.
and ,oh,by the way,Racism is a relic of the past upon Obama's second term.Only fortune seekers use the race card anymore.
What do you read ,comic books ? Try reading a newspaper,you have revealed how little you know about what's going on around you.
Even with a greater percentage of decreasing birth rates, immigrant birth rates are still higher than native born citizens. And, it's not about immigrants being bad for America but has to do with the high numbers of immigrants coming into the country both legally and illegally. Even at current population levels we can't seem to destroy the very fabric that supports our existence fast enough nevermind supporting an influx of one to two million additional people yearly that tend to like big families.
Half of Americans who get PhD's in science are the children of immigrants ...
Thanks for the comment, nonetheless the rate of immigration is directly responsible for the population growth in the U.S. leading to a detrimental effect on our infrastructure and environment. I do not doubt the intelligence of many immigrants; we all know how much of the rest of the world is ahead of the U.S in many of the engineering and science fields. As a smart person, how many people do you think the world or any particular country can sustain?
AMERICA IS BECOMING TOO OVER POPULATED AND POLITICIANS DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM.
WITH MILLIONS OF AMERICANS UNEMPLOYED, DO WE NEED MORE IMMIGRANTS ??? ANSWER , NO...LEGAL IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN . DON'T COUNT ON DEMOCRATS TO ENFORCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS, THEY WANT THE HISPANIC VOTES.
With the economy the way it is, fewer boats, so there's a lot less anchors going around !!!
One more thing,these racial studies have to stop,they do nothing except raise racist views in America by everybody at a time when we should be putting away those views.With Barrak's second term,the issue of race in America is a dead issue,a relic of the past.
Are you kidding? Race will permeate our politics for years to come. The republican right used every code word and dog whistle to attack the president's race, as being"different", not born here, a socialist, an anti-colonialist Kenyan, etc, etc. Their flag waving didn't fool the majority of voters. They're anti democracy....how else can one describe concerted attempts to suppress voting across the country? But back to the article, nothing is really surprising. Immigrants will grow and learn and assimilate like those who came before them. It can only be good for America.
Incredibly, incredibly naive to think it's a dead issue
Stop blaming the studies. Those views were there before the studies were done and will be there long after.
obama is the most racist president in history period go ahead and say otherwise he is he played the black and white card to please both crowds instead of just speaking about his policy. Pull up youtube videos of obama in new orleans in chicago talking all ghetto "baby mama drama" crap like that. It doesnt make him cool it makes him an idiot a racist read dreams from my father" for all you obama tools out their defending this man so much without even knowing the true obama. READ HIS BOOK AND THEN TALK! I READ HIS BOOK AND I HATE HIM! KNOW YOUR ENEMY!
A lot of this is contributed to the crap that Monsanto puts in the food supply. Seeds that have GMO's have their own internal pesticides, lowering birth rates....among a few other attributes like several different cancers.
How did you get out?
Kids should get their mother's citizenship, period.
Only US has that awful birth law, promoting immigrants/H1B workers to give birth in US
So a woman, lets say from China, who is married to an American citizen, is a permanent resident, just waiting for her citizenship interview and has a baby, that baby should be a Chinese citizen? That is just wrong. How about the baby takes the citizenship of the mother unless one or both parents are American citizens or in the citizenship pipeline(ie permanent resident).
If at least one of the parents is an American citizen, the child should be also. Proof should be provided though. A birth certificate of the parent who is a citizen, or the citizenship papers of the parent became a citizen.
I agree.....
Did abortion rate rise too?
The abortion rate has dropped 8% since 1998.
Because more women have access to birth control.
I'm sure there are a number of middle-class women like myself who after having one child born with special needs (autism, in my case) they stopped having more. My husband and I can afford to have another child, but we decided to focus all our attention and resources to make sure our first-born can make it in life. He's come so far. While a sibling would have been good for him, we kept thinking what if the next one has issues. We'd definitely be in the poor house then.
I applaud you and your husband for rasing your autistic child. I have a friend who has one himself, and I see it's not easy at all. I do think it's probably a good idea to have another child, or two. I only say this because who will love and care for your autistic child when you're gone?
God Bless,
WOW–Remember if a Mexican comes to the United States and has the baby-Anchor Baby–instant citizenship and benefits–many women from Haiti fly to New York when they are 8-months pregant–another anchor baby. Of course the Chinese have got something else on their minds-ENERGY-–the Chinese now own 33% of all oil and natural gas right in the states of Wyoming–Colorado-800,000 acres involved–China-CN00C0-Ltd
Chesapeke Energy Corp has 15-million acres around the country under lease–I am sure China will get all the rights to oil and natural that it can.Then Obama bailed GM out–a loss of $23 billion to the tax payer.
Where I live,I had new insulation put in my attic–guess who showed up to the work–the Country where they came from starts with a -–M--
Carlos, If the United States really was serious about competing in the global workforce we would drop the minimunm wage and abolish welfare for able bodied individuals. Then people would be motivated to work and capital that is wasted on non-productive parasites woud be freed to grow American Business.
Abolishing welfare and minimum wage would inspire people to work harder? I don't think so. I'd be willing to bet that the "parasites" you're going on about would be more likely to turn to a life of crime, not because they are naturally that way, but because they would have no other choice.
My evidence for that statement? Take a look at many third-world countries. Or did you think that third-world countries didn't have any wealthy people living in them?
Making the minimum wage lower is not going to encourage people to get off welfare and work. There is no logic it that statement at all – anywhere.
Uh, maybe that's why he mentioned abolishing welfare, Mr Spock?
Dropping the min. wage only encourage employers pay less, there are always more people to apply less jobs.
Well, this study must not have been done including Central California. When I am downtown grocery shopping, it is not uncommon to see a Latino mother with two or three young children, with another baby in a carriage.
Remember–California is a sanctuary state–Ventura Beach is where the new strain of -–TB- was spread by illegal immigrants--Welcome aboard to the benifits- There are 1,400,000–is the number of illegal immigrant households that use one major welfare program-$113,000,000,000.00 is the cost of illegal immigration–75% of that cost is absorbed by the states.
I guess they're realizing that you can't make it in this country if you have 8 kids.
Your economy will stay the same regardless economy is controlled by wall street not lowly workers. As for who had those jobs before... The uneducated if you want jobs start teaching your kids to compete with global educated work force.
Geez..people get paid to do these studies. Lets see..in a robust economy immigrants come to the U.S. for work. Many get pregnant and have babies. In a recession there aren't as many jobs therefore less immigrants coming to the U.S. for work therefore.....less babies born to immigrants. Wow...that was difficult to figure out.
Yes, I can't understand why journalists should make such a big deal of the fact that immigrants act like .. guess what ... any other people!
Demographers are doing their job, projecting the population, but unfortunately journalists and parts of the public are unable to understand that and need to draw sweeping conclusions.
People who are here illegally or who do not speak English do not belong here. It's sad that every year the first baby of the new year is always an illegal here in Texas. They have their own country. I'm tired of people who act like we are being mean for wanting them to go back to their home. I doubt I could go to England or Austrailia and just live there illegally without being shipped back home.
Sure, but not all the Natives are related to Mexicans. They are not all the same people. They have different cultures and languages, but idiots like you like to lump them all together to promote the reconquer agenda, that spread to places that Mexico didn't even own.
Immigrants r hard working and do no harm. How about if Indian Americans send back your European ANcestors ??? Immigrants r also Polish, Chinese, Russian etc. Enough with pointing the finger at Mexicans only. Not all Mexicans have a lot of kids. There are plenty Mexican Americans well educated with careers and good jobs. Stop the stereo types !!!! We are getting back OUR lands =D
New Mexico is a sanctuary state, they come over from Mexico pregnant, white is a minority in New Mexico.
True, lots of anchor babies there
Racists, racists they still don't learn. See you in the next election. Get ready to dissapear.
Anchor baby births have not declined in CA, no way.
Remember, the US stole New Mexico along with other states, lots of us Mexicans were here long before you were. I'm from Texas where my mother is from, and her father, and her fathers father, and so on. So check yourself
Well said ! Amen
Ever wonder why its called New Mexico? It used to be Mexico and New Spain before it was U.S. Anglos are the immigrants to there ...
Maybe our government should do more to keep illegals out and do more to send the ones already here home. We did just fine before had millions of illegals supposedly doing the jobs that Americans refuse to do. Who do they think did those jobs before they were here anyway? Send them all back and watch our economy flourish.
I have one better..... those ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS caught having an "anchor baby" be shipped back, along WITH their anchor baby and or babies, and our government begin charging their country from whence they came deportation fees, and monies that their citizens caused us while they were here..... (to include that FREE education their children received while here. I imagine our national debt would decrease significantly)
In two years we will remember you comments.. good Bye Republican Tea Party..
As the country struggles due to an every increasing population spurred on by the unecessarily high immigration quotas and lax enforcement, we shall see how thankful our country is. But it is not just the democrats who are responsible for this mess; the republicans have their fair share in the blame.
Charge their countries? What do we do when they don't pay, turn it over to a collection agency?
Yes, FREE education for children is a terrible thing ... better have them grow up and be uneducated and contribute less to our society, taxes, etc ... education is an investment.
The problem is if people know they can cross the border illegally and be guaranteed free education for their children, health care from emergency departments and medical clinics, drivers licenses, and other social service, they are going to keep coming. I'm sure if I ws struggling for a better life and new what was waiting after a difficult journey across the border I would go as well. But, understanding and condoning are two different things. The U.S. is sending a mixed messaged to illegal immigrants by having laws on the one hand for legal entry and on the othe hand not only often looking the other way but providing these services.
guess that projection about whites being a minority by 2020 needs to be revised eh..