Opinion: It’s time to free Rosa Parks from the bus
December 1st, 2012
05:00 AM ET

Opinion: It’s time to free Rosa Parks from the bus

Editor's note: Danielle McGuire is the author of "At the Dark End of the Street: Black Women, Rape and Resistance-a New History of the Civil Rights Movement from Rosa Parks to the Rise of Black Power." She is an Assistant Professor in the History Department at Wayne State University, and a Distinguished Lecturer for the Organization of American Historians. She lives with her husband and two children in metro Detroit.

By Danielle McGuire, Special to CNN

(CNN) - In 2011, Rosa Parks was in the news, six years after her death. An excerpt from a breathtaking essay she wrote in the 1950s about a “near rape” by a white man in Alabama was released to the public.  The handwritten narrative detailed Parks' steely resistance to a white man, “Mr. Charlie," who attempted to assault her in 1931 while she was working as a domestic for a white family.

It was late evening when “Mr. Charlie” pushed his way into the house and tried to have sex with her.  Having grown up in the segregated South, she knew all too well the special vulnerabilities black women faced. She recalled, for example, how her great-grandmother, a slave, had been “mistreated and abused” by her white master.

Despite her fear, she refused to let the same thing happen to her. “I knew that no matter what happened,” she wrote, “I would never yield to this white man’s bestiality.” "I was ready to die,” she said, “but give my consent, never.  Never, never." Parks was absolutely defiant: “If he wanted to kill me and rape a dead body,” she said, “he was welcome, but he would have to kill me first.”

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Does that sound like the Rosa Parks we know?

Some of the guardians of Parks’ legacy have said it is not, and insist the essay was fiction. But by dismissing the writings as fiction, it retains the popular image of Rosa Parks as a simple seamstress whose singular and spontaneous act launched the civil rights movement that brought down the walls of segregation.

This popular presentation of Parks as a quiet but courageous woman, whose humble righteousness shamed America into doing what was right has become a mythic fable present in nearly every high school history textbook, museum exhibit, and memorial.

December 1, 1955: Rosa Parks arrested

She has been imprisoned by this tale, frozen in time as a silent and saintly icon whose only real action was to stay seated so that, in the words of her many eulogists, “we could all stand up.”

This overly simplistic story makes it impossible to imagine her essay about Mr. Charlie as anything but fiction.

But what if we knew more about the real Rosa Parks—a militant race woman and sharp detective whose career as a human rights activist spanned seven decades?

It’s time to free Rosa Parks from the bus.

Rosa Parks had a history of being defiant, and her fierce response to Mr. Charlie in the essay echoes her lifelong history of resistance to white supremacy. She learned about racial pride and self-defense at her grandfather’s knee in the 1910s.

Sylvester Edwards was a fan of the Jamaican-born black nationalist, Marcus Garvey, and delighted young Rosa with stories of Garvey’s greatness.  She was especially proud of her grandfather’s willingness to defend himself and his family from the daily terror of the Ku Klux Klan in Pine Level, Alabama.

“Whatever happened,” she said, “I wanted to see it … I wanted to see him shoot that gun. I wasn’t going to be caught asleep.” This spirit of defense and defiance, she said later, “had been passed down almost in our genes' that a proud African-American can not accept "bad treatment from anybody.”

In the 1930s, Rosa Parks joined her husband Raymond and others in secret meetings to defend the Scottsboro boys—nine young African-American men accused of raping two white women in Alabama in 1931. In the 1940s, they hosted Voter League meetings, where they encouraged neighbors to register even though it was a dangerous task. In 1943, she joined the Montgomery NAACP and was elected branch secretary. The job required Parks to investigate and document acts of racist and sexist brutality.

It was in this context, in 1944, that Rosa Parks investigated the brutal gang-rape of Recy Taylor, a black woman from Abbeville, Alabama.

Parks took Taylor’s testimony back to Montgomery, where she and other activists organized the “Committee for Equal Justice for Mrs. Recy Taylor.” They launched what the Chicago Defender called the “strongest campaign for equal justice to be seen in a decade.” In 1948, she gave a fiery speech at the state NAACP convention criticizing President Harry Truman’s civil rights initiatives. “No one should feel proud,” she said, “when Negroes every day are being molested.”

Foot fatigue played no role when she refused to relinquish her seat on December 1, 1955. “There had to be a stopping place,” she said, “and this seemed to be the place for me to stop being pushed around. I had decided that I would have to know once and for all what rights I had as a human being and a citizen, even in Montgomery, Alabama.”

Constant death threats forced her to leave Alabama in 1957. When she arrived in Detroit she continued working as an activist. Throughout the late 1960s and early 1970s, she worked to secure “Black Power,” fought for open housing and against police brutality, railed against the war in Vietnam, and campaigned for George McGovern. She was an ardent fan of Malcolm X and Robert F. Williams, a militant NAACP leader from North Carolina who advocated “armed self-reliance.” She admired Williams so much that she delivered the eulogy at his funeral in 1996.

Given Parks’ history, her defiance of “Mr. Charlie” in 1931 makes perfect sense and fits within a larger context of resistance to the inhumanity of racism and sexism. Instead of a tired seamstress who tiptoed into history, Rosa Parks was a woman who marched proudly with strength, conviction, and purpose.

It is this Rosa Parks that we ought to celebrate and honor. Her history as an active citizen engaged in the most pressing issues of her time - especially racial and sexual violence –can teach us how to do the same in ours.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Danielle McGuire.

soundoff (469 Responses)
  1. Cheeses

    Fix the broken links!!

    December 1, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Its Bubba

      Explain yourself referring to Broken Links...

      December 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  2. doug

    Quote Obama with his exact words and Democrats hit the report abuse button, Really, if the words are so offensive then why do you accept Obama as your lord and savior just like Jamie Foxx?

    "We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election - then I think it's going to be harder. And that's why I think it's so important that people focus on voting on November 2nd.'"-Barack Obama

    Not even Rush Limbaugh wants to punish people for voting Democrat, but Obama along with 99% of Democrats wants to punish Americans just for voting Republican.

    December 1, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tyran

      Hey Doug we are talking about Rosa Parks, not Barack Obama. Get your black people straight! You're a bigot that cannot distinguish the diverse opinions and thoughts of African Americans unless they argree with you and/or kiss your behind. People like you are getting tired!

      December 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • doug

        The hate that clouds your mind and makes you an Eichmann to your National Socialist masters is proof that the dream cannot be fulfilled as long as Democrats like you exist, Democrats who contribute to the genocidal great society that has taken hundreds of thousands of lives in this country since its inception in the mid 1960s.

        The fact that you would like me and my family punished just like Obama because I'm not a puppet for your National Socialists makes your negative comments toward me a compliment.

        Direct quotes=bigotry, you could save the bandwidth and just take a pee on Dr. King's grave, there would no difference.

        December 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  3. DS

    Testament to anti-black racism in America that Rosa Parks is even identified as black. She's obviously mostly non-black (very light skin) and was a mix of Scots-Irish, native American, and black. In Africa she would have been considered a white person. One wonders whether, if she had been BLACK, the bus episode would have turned out as well as it did for her.

    December 1, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • doug

      Can't help you, I'm a republican like MLK and we don't see skin color, we judge the individual. We will keep trying to get the Democrats to see beyond skin color but from the klan to the great society, oppressing people of color is at the core of the Democrat party.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • DS

        Doug, you appear to have selective vision: you see what you want to see and not what you don't.

        December 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cappy

        There it is ... selection. All of the hate and ill treatment of our fellow man exists in every part of the world. There have been bad things happen by bad people. There are so many really bad things happening right now. We focus on an article from an author that takes an instance, paints a story and profits from that. Is it going to enhance our existence? Or will it further divide us? If the answer is yes to #1 then I am all for supporting this article. If the answer to #2 is yes ... then it is not worth the electrons to send it into cyberspace.

        Once again ... Rose, you go girl ... whatever color you are, you are a free American and should not be bullied ... by anyone.

        December 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tyran

        You see color when it comes to Obama and you would hate MLK too. MLK was anti-war, pro-union, pro-voting rights, and everything else you hate about Obama now. You don't respect any African Americans unless they are of the same political affliation as you.

        December 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • doug

        We have more young black men going to prison than college in America today. The reason for that is Democrats, observe how upset they get, foaming at the mouth like a dog with rabies at the mention of judging people as individuals rather than on silly things like skin color that hold no relevance.

        If everyone were like republicans and judged character rather than skin tone, then the Democrats genocidal great society would be destroyed just like the Democrats have destroyed the black family in this country.

        Being happy about a young child being killed by a stray gang bullet, I wont ever find joy in that so though I may be pro choice, pro gay marriage, and supportive of many environmental initiatives, I can never cast a vote for a Democrat because that is a vote in favor of enjoying the effects of the great society that is going on in Detroit, Newark and other districts that are 100% ruled by Democrats and have been for decades.

        December 1, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • CA

        Doug, I'm following you, so far. I agree with some of what you say. Always be careful of how you say something. It may be misinterpreted. You talk about judging people, as individuals, but then you group Democrats together. You are participating in collectivism. That says to me that you really do not judge individual acts, but rather, you judge groups of people.

        December 1, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cappy

        Political bashing look no better than any other kind ... IMO

        December 1, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Martin

      She was black enough for society of the time

      December 1, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • swaggaofacollegekidd

      if she hadn't have been black, nobody would've told her to give her seat to a white dude.

      December 1, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Its Bubba

    Just a note...
    What do you mean...She's an Awesome Lady...Stood her Ground and Voiced her postion without fear...Integrity my friend...
    I wish I was their with you Rosa Park at that time... I would sit with you anywhere on the bus

    Its Bubba

    December 1, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Nathan

    The Wichita Massacre, also known as The Wichita Horror,[1] was a murder/assault/rape/robbery spree perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr (africans) against several ( white) people in the city of Wichita, Kansas in December 2000. The Carrs killed five people and a dog. A sixth victim, a white woman known as HG, survived a gunshot wound to the head. Why dont you write stories like this, instead of this old crap you write about ; before your time......

    December 1, 2012 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
    • everything in Moderation

      You miss the point of the article, and have no real point to contribute yourself. You are merely reacting to something affirmative being said about somebody—and ENTIRE ETHNIC GROUP—for whom you have no respect. It's sad.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • MashaSobaka

      I bet when you read articles about a drought in Oklahoma you whine about it failing to mention the rain they're getting out in Oregon.

      December 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Notsurprised

        crimes that are white on black get huge publicity. even if there is a question of possibility such as George Zimmerman.

        crimes that are black on white are overwhelmingly downplayed.

        its not rocket science but it does make ppl feel very uneasy to KNOW that the propaganda masters are hiding black crime and their impact. why does corporate news world have this agenda? its blatantly obvious to any objective observer.

        December 3, 2012 at 12:37 am | Report abuse |
  6. adam young

    It is cool to see a paradigm shift in real time. The digital age allows us to engage in discussions and debate that would have rarely happened a generation ago. This discourse allows us to grow beyond the ignorant ideals that a white supremacy and segregation based society perpetuated. Most young, educated whites have moved beyond their grandfathers's and crazy uncles bigoted worldview. The internet is the only forum left for the latter group to and that is even shrinking.

    December 1, 2012 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
  7. Gerry

    Mr. Charlies still exist everywhere but, thank God, they're in the minority. Also, the law will find and arrest them if they cross the line.

    December 1, 2012 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Call Me Crazy

      Are you meaning "Mr. Charle" the alleged rapist or racist ?

      December 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • MashaSobaka

      "The law will find and arrest them if they cross the line."

      Unlikely. Rape is one of the most underpunished crimes in the country. Even with genital damage, semen inside the victim, and an eyewitness, charges are rare...and convictions even rarer. Attempted rape? That's not even going to get you an arrest.

      But feel free to keep your head down in the sand.

      December 1, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  8. doug

    Who can understand every Democrats fixation with the act of "teabagging" but they must post their obsession with it daily. Then again it is Democrats we are talking about here, people, who like Obama, think that every American who doesn't vote Democrat is the enemy and that they must face a punishment for not 100% supporting the Democrat party.

    As Jamie Foxx said and every Democrat agrees with him, these are the words of every Democrats lord and savior Barack Obama, "We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us".

    December 1, 2012 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
  9. kg

    This article only alludes to the real story of the beginning of the civil rights movement. I am black, and some people know the truth, and some don't. But the reason reason Mrs. Parks refused to go to the back of the bus was that white men were constantly molesting black women and girls. Black men could do nothing to stop it. Mrs. Parks refused to go to the back of the bus. It had nothing to do with her feet hurting. Other women started protesting also, and then MLK, jr step in and latched onto their movement. Its a shame we are still covering up the truth, so a few people and children will not feel bad. In the end that hurts everybody. By the way, I learned the real truth from several older women in their late 70's and 80's from Alabama ( i'm from Alabama) who were directly involved, and knew Mrs. Parks. For some reason they all wanted to tell their stories over thanksgiving dinner two years ago. The amazing thing is that all of them had been molested by white men in their past, and they are not bitter now.

    December 1, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Velma

      The person who said there were many others was right. In the late '50s I was a (white) girl about 18 and working in Atlanta. I rode the trolley to work and there had been grumblings and mild disturbances before. But one day a young African American woman got on and sat in an empty seat beside me near the front of the bus. It seems silly today, but then I was scared to death, not of her, but what some white man might do. I spent the whole ride studying the window trying to see how I could escape if someone pulled a knife. Amazingly, nothing happened. The tension was high and it was totally silent, but I'm sure she was terrified, too. I was always sorry that I didn't have the courage to let her know that I supported her. She was a true non-violent activist, although unknown. MLK would have been proud of her.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • meemee

      I am sure all these women have their "memories," or claims. But the facts are that these were accusation made in the face of white accusations of the same toward black men. It is an old, simple, Southern backwoods claim. Another routine form was to infer someone white was actually grandfathered by a black.

      My mother worked in Washington D.C. during WW2 at the juvenile court. She told several stories of how young white couples out on dates were attacked, with the male murdered and the female gang raped. It happened more that once. Then, there is the hardly ever repeated history of all the riots that occurred in the non-Southern cities wherever Southern Blacks had been shipped in. They all began over a black on white molestation of some sort. These were Yankees.

      And things are certainly different today. FBI crime stats show over and over that while whites are victims of violent crimes and rape 8-11 times more likely by a black, white of black crime is very low and rape is ZERO.

      December 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Notsurprised

      of all the things women do, concealing rape is the most baffling and cowardly thing of all.

      for them to say those stories, provide no written or recorded witness, and then have you come on here is more like slander.

      truth does not spread in this manner.

      if what you are saying is true, it deserves to see the light of day, not to surface on an internet board as hearsay from a 3rd party.

      Either they are cowards or liars. Possibly both.

      December 3, 2012 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
  10. lagergeld

    Hey, how come Communist chicks are always macho and have mustaches?

    December 1, 2012 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
  11. Oh God.

    The ignorance is running rampant through this thread. Some people just can't have a civil discussion. Everyone is feeling quite sensitive this morning.

    December 1, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Tyran

      Yeah that usually happens when anyone tries to talk about African American history, it somehow offends everyone.

      December 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  12. martin

    the party you are referring to is named the Democratic Party (not the "Democrat" Party). the tongues of conservatives burn when they have to say the word "democratic."

    December 1, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • doug

      Before they shot JFK yes, but once LBJ came in and introduced the genocidal great society which Democrats still use till this day against poor people mostly of color it has been America's National Socialist party so Democratic is about as far removed from a Democrat as it could possibly be.

      December 1, 2012 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
  13. Jon

    Potentially. Why mine were anyway? No idea. Look forward to a response.

    December 1, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      The question was: Why must your own publication suffer simple problems that did not take a person who wasn't an employee very long to identify, and was causing large amounts of frustration for a good ratio of users using the discussion platform, and then under what guidelines did a moderator remove these comments. Thank you.

      December 1, 2012 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      That's how I define America, CNN. Simple problems, easily solved, can't entice the people that can fix it unless it's worth the money that's worth their time, lot of people in the dust, frustrated, angry, lashing out, and looking for answers. Peace!

      December 1, 2012 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      That's the uncompensated free news. At least give CNN readers an "edit" button. That'd be nice

      December 1, 2012 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
  14. Josh Bruno

    Doug, how would you know if none of that was true?

    December 1, 2012 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
  15. Jane McFarlane

    In the 60's my sister and I went on the bus to New York. We are from a small town in Canada and people were people no matter what colour. We always went to the back seat of the bus at home for the extra leg room so we walked right to the back. Even the driver stared at us and we could not figure out why. Next stop two black men boarded and when walking back they stopped and stared. I smiled and said hi and moved over a bit so they could sit. We arrived safely and never even thought about until others pointed it out. Glad we were from small town Canada and didn't judge the inside goodness of people by their outside colour.

    December 1, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • sasha

      reading this comment made my day! I would have loved to have been sitting with you two 😀 what a cool story!

      December 1, 2012 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
    • SeniorMoment

      No wonder Canadians are so well liked as a nationality.

      December 1, 2012 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Jamie

      There was no 'back of the bus' rule in New York, though of course racism exists everywhere.

      December 1, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Realdirect

    Never, never,never!!!

    December 1, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  17. Josh Bruno

    for every Rosa, there were 1000 Claudette Colvins

    December 1, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  18. Junior

    What a farce...She was a puppet. The real hero was Claudette Colvin. Don't know her ? If you don't ,you are ignorant to fact...

    December 1, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • JohnS

      If you really think so much of Claudette Colvin, why do you feel the only way to build her up is by tearing down someone she would hold in high regard?

      December 1, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
      • Junior

        If you believe Ms Colvin enjoyed being beat up and dragged off the bus.. looks up to Rosa Parks, you aren't very intelligent. Again, Rosa Parks was what the NAACP wanted. Not Ms Colvin....15,combative. They wanted a staged puppet, an employee to just walk off th e bus

        December 1, 2012 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
    • reldra

      This article is about Rosa Parks. Obviously, a very important part of the civil rights movement. If you want to see an article about Claudette Colvin you can A) look one up. B) Contact CNN and tell them you would like them to find someone to write one. C) Write one yourself and submit it to CNN as editorial.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Pray for sinners

    You poor, angry thing... You can find peace through Jesus Christ – really you can!

    December 1, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • doug

      I doubt that Obama is going to see your post, you will need to send it to the White House. Yes, his anger and extremist thinking is scary, but what is more scary is that so many Americans are ignorant of his exact words that I posted un-editted here, and that 99% of all Democrats agree with Obama on punishing Americans for not voting Democrat.

      December 1, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • doug

      "We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us"-Barack Obama

      Sorry but someone this full of hate cannot find peace, their soul is charred from decades of hate and extremism.

      Besides, a man who believes he is our lord and savior as he hears he is from millions of Democrats like Jamie Foxx claim he is our lord and savior, would laugh off your find Jesus comment.

      December 1, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  20. edwardst35

    There are NO RIGHTS that are automatic in life! You MUST EARN the right to belong to society else every criminal in the world would have RIGHTS! It is a PRIVILEGE to be part of human society.....EARN IT and stop "bellyaching" about it!

    December 1, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Cap'n Rita

      What?!?! Criminals DO have rights-and far too many. Could you, please, be more specific?

      December 1, 2012 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • F. R. Eggers

      Are you actually asserting that it is a privilege not to be abused?

      December 1, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • everything in Moderation

      You are either baiting or horribly betrayed by your educational system. Reality is the opposite of what you say, and that is a good thing. Please learn about rights…use a library, avoid the "wisdom" of wherever you got your information up to now. They have failed you miserably.

      December 1, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Danny

    Just another trouble maker

    December 1, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Pray for sinners

      They cannot help t, Adam... the Bible talks about the Wheat and the Tares... the Tares are the devil seed and they live among the Wheat, which are the God seed. They look like like Wheat but the Bible says they will be pulled out from among use when the Lord of the Harvest comes, and they will be burned up.

      You can tell the Wheat by their compassion toward all, and you can tell the Tares by their hatred for anyone who is not like them. Sounds familiar?

      December 1, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  22. lagergeld

    She was a Marxist. Her racial activism sprung from that. Marxists did – and do – try to capture racial hostility and use it for Marxist aims. Rosa Parks was part of this. The author of this article is not being honest about the woman's membership in the Communist Party. MLK was also tied to longtime CP members, and it's also been long shown he plagiarized in his doctoral dissertation.

    Liberal activists are sactificing history to manufacture and prop up heroes.

    December 1, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  23. jon


    December 1, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  24. Nathan

    The Wichita Massacre, also known as The Wichita Horror,[1] was a murder/assault/rape/robbery spree perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr (africans) against several ( white) people in the city of Wichita, Kansas in December 2000. The Carrs killed five people and a dog. A sixth victim, a white woman known as HG, survived a gunshot wound to the head. Why dont you write stories like this.

    December 1, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • kamanakapu

      reply to Nathan:

      You must not have seen pictures of the ku klux klan lynchings of the black males that appeared periodically in Life, Time and other magazines. The klan hated the black males because some white women gave birth to black babys.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
  25. George

    What baffles me is that white men continue to suppress everybody else and we pretend we look down upon those suppressers of the "past". Lets see this is what the white dominated media tells you
    Black men are criminals
    Mexicans are illegal
    Arabs are terrorists
    Chinese are evil communists
    Indian men suppress their wives
    People from Africa have a lower IQ

    people from white nations are cultured.

    Isn't it obvious who benefits out of this stereotyping?

    December 1, 2012 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
  26. adam young

    Only an ignorant conservative would define"ancient" as the 1950,s

    December 1, 2012 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
  27. Moses

    The crimes against black folk in the past were committed by people of the past, not your "white" neighbors and co-workers. The crimes of today are perpetrated by young black gang members killing other young black gang members, children, elderly, or anyone caught in the cross-fire or possessing something they want.

    December 1, 2012 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
  28. Charlie

    I think my post got lost,so I am posting a more detailed statement. I don't want to rant. I am not mad. Everyone has their own way of getting through this life, and as long as it doesn't involve hurting others, I respect that. I am just curious. If you believe what you posted, then, wouldn't you be going against that belief by posting something? Also, does you position mean that, in your opinion, the phrase "We are all in this together." is a lie somehow designed to get people in trouble?

    December 1, 2012 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
  29. theoldfool1950

    Those of us who have studied the times and lived in them, as I have, know of Rosa Parks' activism and lifetime commitment to racial equality. Thank you for bringing it to the forefront. I would like to be able to take today's young racists on a tour of the 50s and 60s that I lived through. From a 21st century perspective I think even they would find it appalling. We have come a very long way from those days, but we still have miles to go.

    December 1, 2012 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
  30. Ittakesbutone

    It takes but one to make war, not two. And those who do not take up swords can still fall upon them.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:57 am | Report abuse |
  31. MarkinFL

    I'm not even sure what point the post was supposed to make. If you were saying that she should have minded her own business then well that was what she was doing. Her business was to be recognized as a person. She was not worried about being safe.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
  32. OvernOut

    The bus that figured so prominently in this story has been restored and is on display at the Henry Ford Museum. It's kind of cool to sit in the same seat. as Mrs. Parks.

    This article left out the incident when Mrs. Parks was mugged by an intruder in her own home. She was such a tiny woman, she was 81 years old, and some clown smacked her around and took about $50 from her. The guy sounds like he has come to his senses (he's still in jail), but the incident did not shock the rest of the community enough to clean itself up, and that's just sad. There are commercial areas coming back strong in Detroit, but the residential areas still need a lot of work.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |

    Was this article was to defame a woman who was tired of the rape and abuse from the white man? Well, it gives me a even greater longing to want to meet her personally,shake her hand and sit next to her in those meetings. Anyone who has ever been raped or abused would feel the same way. No matter what race you are. We are Black African Americans and are proud of our heritage and fight against what is right. To see our people, men, women and children hanging from trees for no reasons but to be evil against our race. To have men rape and beat our women just because you were white and could get away with it –someone -sometime will take a stand. And she did. I thank Rosa Parks and many others for their fight, because of them-we are where we are today.


    December 1, 2012 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
    • MarkinFL

      In what possible way did this article defame?!?!?!?!

      This article validates the reality of a strong woman that fought hard for her and her entire race's civil rights. The author of this article clearly feels that the truth of her life is far more powerful than the myth. She is clearly a remarkable woman who deserves even more respect than she has been given. This article bolsters that position.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Guest

      You are either an "American" or you're "African". There is no such thing as an African-American, Irish-American, Italian-American, German-American, Polish-American, Mexican-American, Chinese-American, Korean-American....... Rosa Parks was an "American" citizen.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
    • George


      December 1, 2012 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
    • dhondi

      "The white man" There is no "the white man"

      December 1, 2012 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
    • AS

      You are so educated you let your knee jerk reaction overcome your reading comprehension. The article does not defame ROsa Parks, but makes her out to be a bigger hero than the myth-makers portray her as.

      December 1, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
  34. Swooooooooog

    Well I's a out in da woodpile a watchin you!

    December 1, 2012 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
  35. Jon

    Lol. "We... why, gosh, we simply didn't -realize- it was frustating for users! We had no idea! Send Haroldson over to the computing machine to perform magic hocus pocus to understand and contemplate for much time to discover simple easy answers that would at least remove some of the .. more.. what is the word? Frustrating? Frustrating elements for our users! Posthaste! And GIVE HIM ARRAAAAISE" Make sure you give that guy a raise that basically says that you have a character limit on your posts, so half of them aren't people just complaining that someone is censoring unfairly.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      That may up your "bottom line" a bit. I know, us young 25-34 year old single males in the country, the largest section of the unemployed last I checked, can be jerk-y at times. I get it.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      Hope it's fixed soon. Will improve your user discussion, like, of course. Because you'll have less frustration in use. I can't see why it hadn't been. Hate to be the guy who said it, needed to be said. Glad an employee will read it.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      That took what, 20 minutes?? I bill 1800 an hour. Thanks.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      Anyway, first world problems.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Jon

      Anyway, for a very fair point, and apologies if my comments seemed antagonistic. They were not meant to be, it was more for humorous empathy. I do not believe a gentlemen working for CNN called Haroldson exists, nor does he computr magic spells. My casual estimation of the cost of one of the ideas to solve a.. invariably and undeniably frustrating communication issus, even with a simple measure, so as to improve this overall publication, was about $300 ish? $300 US American Dollars. I believe that 10x this amount would begin to encourage the people capable of solving this problem.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  36. live4grace

    She never stayed in the back of the bus – she was the one who wouldn't. To-the-death defiance is exactly what the movement called for. And .. for the record and for all history – she WON. As did all who WERE killed, raped and otherwise abused in the struggle. For sure it goes on.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:51 am | Report abuse |
  37. Martin

    In my entire life, I have considered Rosa Parks as a hero. I am a white person and I have had great friends and many coworkers that were black and IMHO, nicer and friendlier than the majority of white people. In college, I remember going to parties that were very integrated and everyone was friendly to all the party people. Unlike some weird family members, I prefer to live in a neighborhood full of different races and diverse from different countries, languages, and cultures. I always surprise people that only speak Spanish when I talk to them in their native language.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
  38. Bobby

    Because she is stating an opinion and trying to make a case for it.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:47 am | Report abuse |
  39. USA

    We are all equal. : )

    December 1, 2012 at 9:45 am | Report abuse |
    • ldean50

      yep. just some more than others 🙂

      December 1, 2012 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
  40. ldean50

    I happened to meet Mrs. Rosa Parks in the early 90s at the Nashville Airport. She had been a hero of mind since childhood. She was somewhat frail sitting in a wheelchair waiting to board a flight. I was able to introduce myself, shake her hand and thank her for her service to Civil Rights. I even teared up a little bit when I held her hand. I grew up believing that she was a solitary seemstress who spontaneously revolted against giving up her bus seat... I was always amazed at her courage. Years later I learned what I had thought all those years wasn't the whole truth when an old English college professor of mine who had worked at the Highlander school in TN told me she was "trained" there. I realized her courageous revolt had been planned and anticipated. It doesn't negate her work, put it does negate what I perceived as her courage... because there were many untrained, courageous Black people who actually DID draw a line in the sand during those times. They were not trained, they were not supported by a network, they took real risks and we will never know their names.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Ambrogino

      Not to stray too far from your point; but I want you to think about your statement for a moment because, to use your line of thinking, means that if we imagine that Jesus Christ:
      1. Supposedly knew he was god
      2. Knew what awaited him if he died on the cross
      Then that means that his sacrifice is diminished because that makes him a selfish individual who knew what he was getting... Then it was all just for show and it delegitimizes him.... Wouldn't you agree?

      December 1, 2012 at 9:57 am | Report abuse |
      • ldean50

        No, not really. I think, instead, that you DID indeed stray far from my point.

        December 1, 2012 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
      • ldean50

        ... to clarify and elevate the question to universal, all incompassing levels not suited to an Internet discussion... after studying many Abrahamic religions, I tend to believe that the actions of Jesus were born of agape, did not require courage because He is incapable of fear.

        December 1, 2012 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Ambrogino

        You established in your statement that now that you are armed with this knowledge that it dimishes her courage and potentially her contribution, because it was "planned." I just put it to you in a different light.

        Personally, any and all contributions are important, from the ones we know about to the ones that have faded into history. Celebrate the human spirit!

        December 1, 2012 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
      • ctbtx67

        It does diminish his sacrifice. He knew what was going to happen afterwards. He was a great man/spirit/demigod, but he had no real fear of the ending. I call mulligans on the whole cruxifixion. His words should stand as valid, regardless of his end. Matthew is the narrator of jesus, and Paul and everything after should be abolished.

        December 1, 2012 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
      • ldean50

        Ambrogino... I feel you are merely consumed with being "right" that you fail to read/absorb what I said. We have no argument. I stated, "It does NOT negate her work," and I disagree that I negate "her potential contribution." I do celebrate the human spirit and I DO agree with you. I made a comparison that I see more courage in the ones who stood alone, than the ones who knew they were supported. Read it as an aside with no negation of Mrs. Parks' work. I meant it as a reminder that when we think of Rosa Parks, think also of those who deserve quiet reflection on the fact that THEY were never celebrated because they stood alone, unseen. If you still need to find an arguement, lets stay on point... Do you DISAGREE that ones who stand alone require more courage than ones who stand in a group?

        December 1, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Harin

      You make a point. She was trained, she was prepared and there was back up for her if things got ugly. It was a pre-planned mission. Still, it is nothing a soldier in our own military does not do. He is trained, prepared, provided backup, but that individual soldier still must find the courage to overcome his fear to enter combat. She overcame that fear, entered combat against overwhelming odds and never looked back. Her training gives us some idea of just how dangerous all this was. How scary it was for a small black female to sit on a seat in a bus that was not meant for her. It should really teach us that we have no idea how bad it really was then. It was an act of war for her to refuse to surrender her seat. In that war people died, sometimes horribly at even most damning, those people died at the hands of their own countrymen.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Charles_dongson

        Harin, Rosa Parks did good things and all... but sitting on a bus seat aint combat buddy.. please don't confuse the two..

        December 1, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      How is a life long struggle for civil rights, with the constant threat of violence, rape and lynching just for thinking that way, any less courageous than suddenly one day deciding not to move to the back of the bus? If anything, she is far more heroic for her life long struggle against oppression.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
      • ldean50

        RTDT Brian "Read the darn thing"... I wrote, "it DOESN'T negate her work, but it does negate her courage – comparatively speaking... a soldier who stands alone is more corageous than one who stands with a battalion... I went on to give recognition to the many Black "soldiers" whose work was not supported, recognized and celebrated and truly did stand alone. My point being – THAT is superior courage.

        December 1, 2012 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Young

        I think that's the point that the writer is trying to make. And it doesn't surprise me that some people are misreading the article.

        December 1, 2012 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
    • dyanamason

      Why does preparing to take a stand make a difference on her courage? To me, knowing about Mother Parks' real life creates a truer picture of her work and sacrifice. She was a real person, not the mythological character painted by so much of history. She deserves to have her full story known, as she was so much more than a single act of defiance. She had been risking her health and safety for decades before she refused to give up her seat – being a part of the NAACP in that time was an invitation to the KKK. Does that make her less courageous? Was Rep. John Lewis not a civil rights hero because he had been trained in non-violence before he tried to walk across that bridge? Were not the freedom riders courageous for risking their safety by daring to travel interstate in an integrated bus? Was not Dr. King a hero when he faced death threats and his home was bombed just because he "knew" what he was doing? Intent does not make you any less courageous. It's being willing to do what is right, regardless of the consequences.

      December 1, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Jon

    It took me like five minutes to figure out. I'm not even an employee.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
  42. Jen L

    Actually, the real question is: why do people who can't think logically complain about the logic of people who do, in order to justify attacking them for not having the "correct" opinion?

    December 1, 2012 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
  43. tpobrienjr

    I don't believe that Rosa Parks' act was as spontaneous as the writer says. I believe that she was (as secretary of the local NAACP) asked to do this act as part of a carefully crafted plan of civil disobedience. That does not, in my mind, lessen her courage. It took some very strong and brave people to get us (the US) where we are in civil rights. It's not all the way, but it is a long way.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Seyedibar

      The bus seat protest was indeed carefully planned. Parks has spoken before about how they attempted it first the week before, but it did not work in her favor and she didn't have her full support team. The next attempt was a week later on a different bus route.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Ashley Hamouda

      You're wrong in that it wasn't spontaneous, but you're right in that choosing Rosa Parks was a carefully crafted PR move by the movement. There had actually been two women before her who did the exact same thing—refuse to be moved from their bus seats. However, both women had criminal records and that hurt their ethos to become the character the movement needed. Then Rosa Parks came along & she was easily turned into a hero. They needed someone who would look really good to the public, about whom nothing negative could be said.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  44. Bobby

    Yes, you're summarizing the piece and agreeing with it. I think you need to read it again. She's saying let's appreciate her as a civil rights champion rather than a quiet person who chose one time to be defiant and made history.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
  45. AS

    I recommend most people that read this editorial put away their knee jerk reactions. Why is it people that read editorials lack reading comprehension? This article does more to enhance Rosa Parks in my estimation than all the myths about her. The editorial writer is trying to prove that Rosa Parks had a history of standing up for herself and her race. She's trying to prove that the myth Rosa Parks only sat down because her feet hurt does Ms Parks an injustice. Rosa Parks' knew what she was doing and had courage to do so. It takes more courage do something knowing the possible consequences.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Guest

      The most intelligent comment on this board. You got it right!

      December 1, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  46. Jaxthekat

    Thank goodness someone else is pointing out the fallacy of the 'spontaneous' refusal to give up her seat. It has longed bothered me that history presents the story that way.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Young

      I like Rosa Parks more because she was a tough fighter who planned to do what she did. Makes me admire her all the more. I always admired Malcolm X more than MLK,

      December 1, 2012 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
  47. Manny

    Yes, Rosa Parks is a hero in the sense that her defiance served as the rallying cry for the civil rights movement. However, let's not forget she became the focus only after the higher ups within the movement decided that she was going to be "it". Claudette Colvin, many months before, refused to give up her seat as well, and was just as defiant. However, since she was an unwed pregnant teenager, it was thought that she couldn't represent the movement.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
    • MarkinFL

      Right, its time to recognize that to win civil rights for an oppressed minority it takes planned, in your face activities, by people with strong wills. It is tough and dangerous to go up against the establishment. Especially when it involves race or religion. It is not the act of sitting on a bus that was so important. It was the struggle to make it a right afterward that mattered.
      I keep reading comments from people now about how various minorities would gain acceptance faster if they weren't so in our faces. Problem is that they do not need our acceptance, they just need their legal rights. And reality is that without heavy pressure and constant reminders, it just will not happen. Rosa Parks did not start a movement, she helped propel an existing movement into the national consciousness. She endured much, willingly, to do so. A symbolic act was not enough. The actor had to be someone ready to personally fight for their rights.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
  48. 13directors

    She secured a place in history and knowing this about her doesn't change my admiration for her.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:25 am | Report abuse |
  49. Name*Ritter Curtis

    We all need to lets go of all this hate we have against each other and think about are young generation. We need to come together in pray because God is not happy with us.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:25 am | Report abuse |
  50. Dmac

    Well behaved PEOPLE rarely make history.

    Live free or die.... it's a defining American trait that continues to make this country great.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
  51. Zaggar

    Above post is proof positive that no matter how much a white worships a black, it'll never be enough.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
  52. Reemo

    Wow, a lot of people seem to have a problem with this article. I thought it was very interesting and I never knew about this attempted rape. Just because this article happens to be about a Civil Rights figure doesn't mean the person writing it is trying to stir up racial tension. This is interesting new knowledge on a popular figure and I definitely think it's worth a read.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
    • it is

      I don't feel that there was any racial tension involved in her wanting for freedom. If it was right with God for her to be raped than I would say I should be raped too. But because God wants liberty for all his children, then we should work on ways to get out of pits. Like Joseph he was a slave his own brother sold him into the enemy's hands but he stayed with God and God deliver him out and he rescued his family in times of need. It is good to know in a personal way that you are special in whatever level you are in at the time. She knew she was special and never gived up so today we are reaping what she planted. Every one in the human race is currently being liberated. Our hearts are becoming free once and for all.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:46 am | Report abuse |
  53. woodie

    I find it ironic that white people are the least racist of all races. In fact, white males are the most loathed and least racist of all demographics. The paranoia of non-whites and non-white males consistently amazes me. Ask yourself, if you were the only person of your race on a street, which you feel safer or less safe if everyone else where white?

    December 1, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
    • diggingellen

      How do you figure white men are the least racist? There is no indication that that's the truth. In fact, white men are the ones in society who continue to benefit from a social structure that assumes that they are in the right, that they are natural leaders, and that their concerns are the most important.

      Well-recognized scientific studies have shown that white men get the lowest offered prices when they go buy a car, that they are likely to be hired with a criminal conviction than a black man without one for a laboring job, that they routinely get offered higher starting wages and benefits. Who is making those decisions? White men who still disproportionately control positions of power in this country.

      Stop making up assertions that reinforce your preferences about how the world should work – nonwhites aren't paranoid, they are realists.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:28 am | Report abuse |
      • shamrock26

        Any links to your claims?

        December 1, 2012 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
      • diggingellen

        Of course black men are most likely to be killed by black men. White men are most likely to be killed by white men. White women are most likely to be raped, beaten, or killed by white men. Black women are most likely to be raped, beaten, or killed by black men.

        That's because, in general, crime is committed against people and by people in a single neighborhood or community, and American communities are fairly racially segregated. It does not in any way discredit my points, which are that white men continue to have most of the economic, political, and social power in this country, and that our society is structured to advantage them to the detriment of nonwhites and women.

        December 1, 2012 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
  54. Reemo

    I believe we should tie Mike to the front of the bus so that the bug splats don't mess up the paint.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      My wallet would probably be safer out there.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
  55. Magwah1

    rosa parks shouldn't be viewed as a black hero.....by sitting down she stood against injustice for all.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
    • ldean50

      ... except for one, small point... she wasn't rebelling on behalf of the Chinese, the Irish, Latinos, the disabled, mentally challenged, women or any other abused group. Her action may speak for equality for ALL people; but her message and speeches were in support of Blacks only.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
      • Young

        True, although the effect of the Civil Rights movement, ended up benefitting all races. As an Asian-American, I still appreciate that the blacks (and some whites) fought for the Civil Rights. I am very impressed by non-blacks (whites and Jewish Americans) who joined the Civil Rights movement, because in some sense, they were moved to action by their conscience.

        December 1, 2012 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
  56. Basil Fawlty

    Homer Plessy pre-dated Rosa Parks by decades (in 1892). Plessy v. Ferguson went straight to the Supreme Court and was the FIRST civil rights call to action on segregated public transport.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Ronald

      No one is a saint and let's just lock all minorities up and/or keep a close eye on them so that the majority can continue their gluttonous ways in secrecy while of course...using the minirity as an escape goat because the minorities are the ones breaking all the laws...funny. I enjoyed this piece on Parks. Shows us another view of an iconic women.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
      • Watching You

        It will not be that long before the whites will become the minority along with the blacks if our borders remain open.

        December 1, 2012 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
    • 13directors

      He lost. She won. Therein lies the difference.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
      • ldean50

        I disagree. The differences are many – time, context, action; but the "idea" was the same. Perhaps she "won" only because of the path that many had begun to lay down for her. Parts is parts and courage is courage; although I do share some sadness with those who have come to realize that Parks' actions were planned and she was trained for it when so many other we will never know truely acted with "spontaneous" and unrecognized uncelebrated courage.

        December 1, 2012 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
    • kashbmaryd

      Yeah she was 12 years old when he died, so she may have even heard of him while she was growing up during his life. That may have even inspired her to do what she was doing. It let people know that it was possible to overcome anything.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:24 am | Report abuse |
  57. Larry

    She didn't break a legal law! She stood up for her god given rights. A very brave woman.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
  58. Mark in Atlanta

    Same could be said foe Washington, Adams, and Jefferson. Should we also forget them?

    December 1, 2012 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
  59. e

    I like learning more about Rosa Parks, and gaining a greater understanding of the workings of the events of the Civil Rights fight.
    If you don't care than don't read the article and comment on it.

    December 1, 2012 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
  60. Columcille

    People have been slaves for thousands of year...all nationalities and races.The Vikings took slaves as did the Romans and most others. St. Patrick was a slave as was many others both famous and unknown. Embrace your history as slaves, be proud of the country that has fought to end it and above all...shut up about it because it just comes across as plays for power, control and money.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Samar

      Wow. I guess you would say the same thing to the Jews about the Holocaust, right?

      December 1, 2012 at 9:01 am | Report abuse |
      • Ej

        Samar....i notice a number of post who suggest the rape, murder and enslavement of blacks should just be forgotten. I would bet these same people would feel different if it where their family members who where the victims. They say it should be forgotten but could they forget it if they were a minority voting in the recent election or the mother, father, brother or sister of the many unarmed blacks gunned by whites who are allowed to go free. Would they say forget it if they were on the recieving end of work-place discrimination, if they were the last hired – first fired? Those who say blacks should just forget about it or really saying blacks should just accept the inhuman or second rate human treatment as a convenience for them.

        December 1, 2012 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Samar

        Ej, I will never forget my history and I will teach it to my son. It's important that no one forgets where they come from no matter who they are. Whether good or bad, history can teach us many things. My husband is White and he is just as proud of his heritage as I am of mine. These are the values we want to instill in our child.

        December 1, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vance

      I agree, it is a part of our history. However the U.S. participated in it for 400 hundred years and needs to be shamed by it for 400 years. Secondly, as an African American man, I WILL NEVER SHUT-UP about it. Like you said, "it is part of our American history" and it is important we teach our children about it. White, black or whatever they need to know the history of our country. It should not only be taught in the schools, but in our homes like so many other American historic facts are taught.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Bobby

        And although slavery stilll exists today, the period of time that it existed in this, what has become the greatest nation, also makes it unique and will always remain it's biggest black eye. I hope anyway.

        December 1, 2012 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
      • tchrider

        Vance, the US put up with it for 87 years, not 400. Rosa Parks did a great service. We should treat all with respect

        December 1, 2012 at 9:46 am | Report abuse |
      • C Miller

        Just for clarification, the U.S. participated in the disgrace for 89 years(1776-1865). And even then, please remember the U.S. did not govern itself exclusively until 1783. By 1804, all northern states had abolished or set the path for ending slavery. Also do not forget the sacrifice of the Union troops and families. The point here is to not diminish the 400 year experience, obviously every single year was one year too long, but rather it is to show the dramatic change that occurred once the U.S. governed itself.

        December 1, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
    • Ronald

      The statement "I'm in control" assumes that you are an elitist(I doubt). They are the ones controlling not you! Your a subordinate like everyone else.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  61. Zaggar

    So where's the evidence that this alleged assault took place?

    It fits the pattern of anti-white media lies, so some evidence would be nice. Not that there's likely to be any.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Keith Hebert

      Zaggar: Didn't you just run for Senate in Missouri?

      December 1, 2012 at 8:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Mark in Atlanta

      Anti-white media lies? Yikes. Zaggar, I don't claim to know if Ms. Parks wrote the letter or if there was a real Mr. Charlie. But you don't think this stuff happened in the years we are talking about? Perhaps you should visit the Strange Fruit exhibition, where you can see the festive pictures white families took in front of hanging black corpses and turned into post cards to send to their friends. As a white guy from the North, I prey to God my children never forget that slavery and racial hate are not our destiny but they are certainly a part of past. Thank goodness fro Ms. Parks and all the other heroes, white, blackm Muslim, whatever, who have had the courage to help us become a better nation.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
      • Zaggar

        Truth be told, most lynching "victims," black or white, were guilty.

        December 1, 2012 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
  62. Anne S.

    I admire 'Rosa Parks for what she did. Funny it must be how you are raised. I was never raised to hate black people, and until this day I still feel the same way. Over my life time I have met some wonderful black people. Even when I went to high school there was no racism. In my graduating class of 375 students the person who got the most applause was a black male student. In the North black people aren't hated like they are in the South. Black people are human beings, and should be treated that way. And after all if it wasn't for some greedy white man selling them as slaves, maybe there would have never been any. But slavery not only applied to the black people either. My great grandfather who needed work heard there was a job on a ship. He missed boarding the ship and later on found out the men who were on the ship were all sold as slaves and they were white men and so was he. Regardless of what color our skin is we are all children of God.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Samar

      Great comment, but the difference between the when Whites were slaves and when Blacks were is the Whites were normally set free after their servitude was complete. Blacks were enslaved for generations and oppressed even after slavery ended.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Har Har

        Because you were there. You witnessed it. You're not generalizing or anything.

        December 1, 2012 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Samar

        No, Har Har, but I did listen in history class when my WHITE teachers taught it to me.

        December 1, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • lagergeld

        You can always spot a liberal. They're willing to question the biases of everything except their school teachers.

        December 1, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Samar

        Yes. I am a liberal, but that doesn't mean I'm ignorant by any means.

        December 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dixie

      If the North is not as prejudiced against Blacks as the South, why are all of the major slums and poverty in the North? We southerners today did not cause slavery nor do we believe in it today. The southerners who caused all of the trouble during the civil rights era are not the southerners of today. They are in a minority today because our children were taught better. They were taught that slavery and prejudice were evil. When my boys were young there were as many Blacks as Whites coming to our house after school for the baked snacks I provided. When my husband loaded up the truck for a ball game there were as many Black kids in it as there was Whites. It's all in how you raise your children. They learn by example. The 60's were a scary time for us white kids too.My friends in school couldn't believe the things we saw on TV, the riots the beatings the other atrocities against the Blacks. My parents did not teach prejudice in our home and would not have stood for it and their ancestors had been in Florida since the early 1800's. Black and White parents have the responsibility to stop this prejudice in their homes when children are young. It is perpetuated by parents who will not let go of the hate! I live in a very small town where Blacks are regarded with respect and dignity.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
      • Head of FEMA

        I have seen, saw, and done the things you are posting about. I coached little league baseball, and had kids of all color in my backyard.

        December 2, 2012 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Kristeen Bruun

    I have been telling this story every chance I get for years. People are always so surprised! Thank you, Danielle, for giving it a wider audience than I have been able to muster!

    December 1, 2012 at 8:51 am | Report abuse |
    • dmcguire13

      Thanks, Kristeen!

      December 1, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
    • lagergeld

      Hi, Kristeen. Just wondering, do you also tell of how Rosa was a Communist Party member who wanted to intiate the Red Terror in America?

      December 1, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Sandra

    23,000 rapes reported by white women against black men? Yea, right! And you think thats fair and cccurate considering not long ago more than triple rapes were commited by white men against black women. What makes me sick is that if your statistics are true then there are plenty of jails for these rapists. .. and there should be.There were plenty of jails back in the day too. But guess what; not one white man has paid for his rapes, murders and any other kind of evil you can think of. because when you deny a certain people (black people)equal protection under the law, then the beasts usually are never punished. Not one case will get any attention. Not one and that makes me sick. What a wonderful thing it would have been for white people to still hate black people but draw the line on crime, no matter what race they are. And these white people sit their rotten ass in church and just 5 minutes out of church they are thinking how they can hurt or kill someone who looks different from them. I am not saying all white folks are like that. I am talking about the filth from the KKK and other racists.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:49 am | Report abuse |
  65. Carrie

    My feelings have not change for Rosa Parks she was great leader and believed in fighting for her beliefs. Without strong black leaders I would not have the opportunities as I do now. Whoever thought in our life time we would have a black president. We would not have one if it had not been for our ancestors beginning the fight for us. We still must continue to fight injustice not just for ourselves, but for our children’s future.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:42 am | Report abuse |
    • lagergeld

      Carrie, what a lovely narrative. You do realize, of course, that Parks was a radical Marxist agitator who wanted to unleash the Red Terror in this country. I would suggest you do some reading into who you hold up as a moral standard instead of jumping into the stream of propagandistic fecal matter than the mainstream media and campus agitators serve up. You're being had.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Jon

    I also want to make it very clear that majority of people will continue to, forever and ever, as long as the human race exists, exercise it's ability to spraypaint obscenities all over anything and everything it can get it's hands on. Forever. Amen.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:37 am | Report abuse |
    • lagergeld

      Jon, agreed. Especially when mainstream journalist activists intend on (again) presenting a Marxist agitator as an angelic moral stalwart for us to conform to. Someone has to pull the wool OFF of the sheep's eyes.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Marc

    Don't know about anyone else, but I have had more racist crap thrown at me for being white with blonde hair and blue eyes (also for being jewish ironically enough, got both ends on that) then I've ever seen pointed at African Americans or hispanics etc.. Don't try to blame people who weren't alive during segregation for our parent's and great grandparent's mistakes or misdeeds. All racism is is an excuse to divide the working class.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:37 am | Report abuse |
    • Helenolai

      I am young, have blonde hair, and blue eyes. People have literally wanted to touch my hair. I have not experience racism directed toward me. I think because I am white people feel comfortable confessing their racism to me, as if I agree with them, which I don't. I would say, on average, somebody confesses their racial bias to me at least once a month. So I can tell you that racism and racial bias is alive in 2012. This saddens me greatly because my two children are mixed.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Ej

      You would see the racism directed toward blacks if you would place yourself in their shoes. If you would do this you would then see the same practices your fore-fathers practiced against blacks are being practiced in some form today.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Marc

        All I can say to that is when I worked in and around Patterson, if I wasn't driving a truck with AAA on the side of it, there were times I would not have left the neighborhoods I was in alive.

        December 2, 2012 at 4:30 am | Report abuse |
    • Frankley

      What makes you think he has a privileged position just because he is white? That is a racist stereotype. There are millions of white American living below the poverty line, and many homeless. Being white is no guarantee of getting anything in life. The lie of white privilege is akin to the blood libel leveled against jews. The very idea of 'white privilege' is an example of anti-white racism.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Jen L

      "I've had more racist crap than I've ever seen directed at minorities." That's because people have the most experience with the discriminatory crap thrown at members of their own group. Claiming that your experience with discrimination is "more real" than the experiences of others solely because it happened to you and not to them is discrimination.

      The sad thing is that I've had to explain to 5 people this week that it is discriminatory to discount the reports that members of other groups give in regards to their life experience without even listening to the reports to evaluate the severity of the cases in question.

      And in EVERY case, the person that I had to explain that to was a white male– the statistically least discriminated against group in the US. Not only do they feel the right to discount the words of other groups in a discriminatory way, trying to get them to stop acting in a discriminatory manner is what they refer to as discrimination.

      December 1, 2012 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Marc

        II'm not saying it's more real or less. Being white, REALLY white, and Jewish, I saw it on every side and it sickens me. What I am saying is people have to move forward in order to put it BEHIND us as a species. All focusing on and feeding racism, even in the form of an article like this (while not racist, it is ALWAYS going to bring up the argument) does, is keeps the people in power pulling the strings and watching ALL the rest of us dance.... The easiest way to control a population is to give them something to hate aside from the way the society itself is structured.

        December 2, 2012 at 4:36 am | Report abuse |
  68. john smith

    actually, the Real Rosa Parks was part of several PLANNED demonstrations. She was not simply some "housekeeper" who was sick and tired of being sick and tired; she was a member of the NAACP, which she joined through her husband (already a member).

    Others had resisted giving up their seats in the past, but Mrs Parks was chosen to represent the movement because she was an upstanding member of the community: married, employed, law-abiding, etc.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Realityblowz

      I remember reading how they first picked another woman that they planned to not give up her seat on the bus, but they found out that she had a child out of wedlock, so they recruited Mrs. Parks instead, due to the anticipated public reaction from the initial choice.

      December 1, 2012 at 8:49 am | Report abuse |
  69. Gregory H. Smith

    This was most insightful. I thank you Ms. McGuire. Thank You.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:34 am | Report abuse |
    • dmcguire13

      Thanks for reading and taking the time to post, Mr. Smith

      December 1, 2012 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  70. Dierdre

    Kevin, Get your facts straight. Published by our federal government and the government of New Mexico was a justice statistics report. It demonstrated the racism in our so-called justice system and media that creates the perception for many that blacks commit more crimes than whites which is not true (although being kept poor through oppression might certainly put one in a situation where they might be more desperate). Those statistics show that for every 6 arrests of whites, blacks, and Latinos for the equivalent alleged crime (not necessarily committed), 5 out of 6 blacks are charged, 3 out of 6 Latinos, and only 1 out of 6 whites - most whites are let off the hook by a justice system comprised of predominantly white police, judges, prosecutors, and lawyers. Comments like yours are a great example of why more white women might be choosing black men... 🙂

    December 1, 2012 at 8:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Zaggar

      The FBI crime reports are based on victim surveys, so any alleged bias in prosecutions is irrelevant.

      Interracial rape is, statistically speaking, a non-white on white phenomenon.

      And the overall criminality of blacks is evident from living among and near them. It's ideologues and cowards who deny this reality.

      December 1, 2012 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Cap'n Rita

        I, begrudgingly, have to agree. As someone who, prior to moving to this area 20 years ago, had NO racial prejudice I am struggling with a growing dislike of Blacks. I live 90 minutes northwest of Detroit and the crime rate in my city is unreal and almost exclusively perpetrated by Black males. Shootings and robberies have become an almost daily occurance. A trip to the mall has become nearly impossible because the behavior of young Blacks make it uncomfortable to shop. Wasn't white kids randomly throwing french fries at people in the food court.

        December 1, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Zaggar

    Not exactly zero, but statistically zero. Around ten, compared with thousands of black on white rapes.

    You can't give the white-hating ideologues here any reason to jump on you. The pure truth is enough.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:32 am | Report abuse |
  72. JohnBorg

    We attempt to water-down central figures in our history and try to incorporate them into our civil religion. We do this for we do not need to encounter the true revolutionary spirit of these figures. We co-opt them instead. MLK Jr was an ardent critic of capitalism. WEB DuBois was a communist who saw race and economic class as tied together phenomenons. Its hard to be an activist and not see social problems in a holistic manner. So, do we reject people like MLK for being "radical" or do we learn to think about their questions. I beg for the latter.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Jonathon Fiverson

      This is an attempt to respond to your post. Prior attempts are not showing up. The ToS states that comments are not pre-screened before they post, so I'm clueless.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
  73. thedarkelf

    Agreed but women love to rehash and make drama where ever they can. And this writer is looking to make a name by stirring up controversy over a black woman everyone knows

    December 1, 2012 at 8:22 am | Report abuse |
  74. coffee

    Was Rosa Parks part Spanish? She looks it as does her name. It would be good for this story to stand for this community as well. All races have racists, I have learned as I age that it infects the thoughts of all just as strongly. Remember we are all gods children and he is the only that will judge in the end.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:17 am | Report abuse |
  75. scout

    Years ago, I had thought Rosa Parks was just happened to be seated in the front of the bus and decided not to move ( on no real basis). In an Adult Education program I learned about Myles Horton (Google that name) and Highlander school. In Myles's class was Rosa Parks, along with a who's who of the Civil Rights Movement. She was more then a person refusing to give up her seat.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:17 am | Report abuse |
  76. J R Brown

    So, your contention is that rape stats involving black perpetrators is completely overblown based on the word of your friend, "the cop"...so explain the "black on black" violence stats. Are they "overblown" as well?

    December 1, 2012 at 8:13 am | Report abuse |
  77. Joyce

    I admire Rosa Parks. But can any of us get over slavery for goodness sakes? Yeah, it happened, and it wasn't nice. But slavery is a thing of the past, and can we please just deal with what's going on today? What's all this about black on white rapes got to do with anything.....oh yeah, I forgot....that isn't racist behavior at all.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:13 am | Report abuse |
    • phoenix86

      Unfortunately, liberal ideology needs mob mentality for its very own survival, so we continue to have American ideals attacked by liberals for acts long past; while liberals demand immediate "forgive and forget" of all of liberals atrocities and vanities imposed by them on others.

      December 1, 2012 at 8:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Magwah1

      There exists more slaves today than at any time in the history of the world.....not a thing of the past. Still ugly and still not openly spoken of. All races suffer from slavery....all humanity.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Samar

      It seems like Blacks are supposed to forget about slavery, but tragedies that effected other groups are remembered all the time.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Har Har

        Blacks are not supposed to forget about it, however, everyone else shouldn't be forced to eat and swallow it everyday with no regard to it actually being racist in itself.

        December 1, 2012 at 9:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Samar

        No one is forcing you to read about or listen to anything regarding slavery. If you don't like it, don't read it or turn the channel, it's that simple.

        December 1, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pkk

      I'm sorry but the facts don't support your rant. First and foremost it was black African tribal chiefs who enslved blacks, broke part families, sporting parents from children and selling them into forced slavery in the slavers markets. This factual information can be easily found so please don't accept my representation without doing your own research.

      Secondly neither I, nor any member or my family was living in this country in 1928 . When we arrived we were subjected to racism, religious intolerance, discrimination,social and economic injustices, criminal actions of a violent nature, including murder, while forced to live in tenements and ghettos. So please don't spew your racist hatred toward me and my family for those acts we had no involvement in. And while you are at it perhaps you could acknowledge that of the millions of people living in this country today more than 60 percent of the population arrived after 1875 , with perhaps 40 percent post WW II with the vast majority having no ancestors of American birth. Reading your rant I see you as an individual who insists on holding a population of blameless individuals responsible for injustices suffered and while I understand your anger I can not accept it as rational in origin. Instead I see your hatred as a racist doctrine that elects to place blame on the blameless perpetuating the divide between races as opposed to seeking a peaceful coexistence.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
    • debra

      You need some therapy. "Evil Ancestors"? "country you stole"? Really? First of all, black men winking at white women and getting in trouble happened years ago. That is over. Second, YOU were not taken from anywhere. Blacks from Africa as well as whites from other countries were forced into slavery. Obviously you like to pretend the past is still today. Why? Can you not function in a world that has improved? The world was an uncivilized brutal place. I can remember that without letting it dictate my life. That is why people say get over it. If you are a stable person, there should be nothing "to get over", but obviously you have issues and dwell on the past like it happens now and to you.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:24 am | Report abuse |
      • Robert

        Salient point. Being a perpetual victim is part of the agenda because it is financially advantageous.

        December 1, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
      • lagergeld

        Race mixing is anti-diversity. As such it shouldn't be promoted. It was morally proper for white men to object to white men being hit on by blacks, and blacks should be objecting to it as well. Respecting diversity includes preserving diversity and one of the steps of preserving it is to discourage destruction of diversity via miscegenation. This isn't calculus. If you pour all cups into a bowl, the distinctness of each cup vanishes.

        December 1, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Har Har

      Exactly. What. He. Said. Co-existence.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:25 am | Report abuse |
    • AJ

      That's the problem with white people. You all want blacks to just "get over" slavery. IF IT HADN'T HAPPENED, THERE'D BE NO BLACKS IN THE UNITED STATES. It's never going away; it's a permanent scar on the country. Every racial problem we have in this country can be traced right back to slavery. It had a hand in forming the Electoral College (research it), clearly the Civil War and the creation of certain states - even so far as having Congress moving possession of a waterway to a state that supported the union and punish the one (Arizona) who did not, and the many race riots that took place since 1865.

      December 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Sabina

    I care and so do many others.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:06 am | Report abuse |
  79. Adam4x4

    Growing up I thought the bus incident and the lunch counter sit-ins were spontaneous and that people like Martin Luther King Jr. were trouble makers, communists, womanizers, spies, etc.. These are ideas that older white people and sometimes even the media spread. When I got older I found out that there were many black people involved in the struggle in quiet dignified ways and that a lot of the protests were long in planning to include checking the bacgrounds of the "freedom fighters" to avoid having their efforts side tracked or worse backfire.
    Thank you, Danielle McGuire, for your work.

    December 1, 2012 at 8:05 am | Report abuse |
  80. Chuck

    Keep tossing that race-bait out there, it seems to work for dividing the country

    December 1, 2012 at 8:04 am | Report abuse |
  81. jim - Tampa

    I believe that stories like this illuminate the reason why philosophers like Foucault abandoned the idea of history and sought to replace it with genealogy. History is a single viewpoint that does not look critically at events. History gives us myths and fables, not reality and always from the viewpoint that benefits power and authority.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:57 am | Report abuse |
  82. jayb18

    Muslim women worldwide,who are being abused by their master husbands should look up to Rosa Parks as a guiding light.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:56 am | Report abuse |
  83. GenericMan

    Liberal Arts is smarts.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
  84. brianmwhitelawyer

    This article reminds me of how we are taught a very sanitized version of the life of Helen Keller. We know that she was a sweet blind lady who was an advocate for the disabled. No one ever mentions that she was a socialist who advocated mightily for the poor.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:33 am | Report abuse |
    • J R Brown

      I don't know why her being a socialist is something to be ashamed of anymore...it seems to be getting mainstream acceptance in America these days

      December 1, 2012 at 8:14 am | Report abuse |
      • lagergeld

        Perhaps if people weren't uneducated (or miseducated) about what Socialism is (actually she was a card-carrying Communist), they may understand the issue. You certainly aren't going to be educated on the matter if you rely on campus or media pinkos. You need to take the initiative and read on your own.

        Due to the media, people interpet Socialism as being welfare state capitalism. It isn't. It also extends deeply into culture, family structure, and social relations. Marxism and its offshoots are all-encompassing. Think of a secular liberal version of Islamic law. Islamic law reaches into every aspect of social relations, as does Socialism/Marxism. The only difference being that pinkos and Reds don't threaten you with hellfire if you don't wipe your hiney properly.

        December 1, 2012 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Judith

      Helen Keller a "Sweet, Blind Lady"? Well you got the blind part right: However Helen Keller was fiesty, blunt and often rude. She did not become the Helen we know and love by being sweet, she got there by strong willed, detemined and not letting anybody tell her she could not do something. I know what drove Helen because I was born with Congenital Rubella, though I have only partial loss of sight and hearing. Like her I lived most of my life being told that I could not do things and although I achived a lot as I am a retired registered nurse in General, Mental Health and Learning Disabilities nursing: However had my confidence not been shaken and leave me with some self doubt, I would have gone straight into law rather than waiting until I was two days short of fifty before qualifying as a lawyer.

      Like Rosa Parks I have always considered that what you do for your community, rather than how much you pay in tax (Which I have paid a few hundred thousand dollars), shows your real worth to society and much of my 61,000+ hours of vomuntary work has been to enable people to stop relying on the state and work which makes them independant.

      December 1, 2012 at 8:16 am | Report abuse |
    • e

      Her political views are well known and not secret in any way.

      December 1, 2012 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
  85. italia

    While I admire your profession as a professional historian and your viewpoint is to be considered, I ask only one thing. Please do not TELL us how to view Rosa Parks and/or her place in history. We know how to view Ms. Parks in her totality as an African American female who lived as most of us did as descendents of our forebears through one of the most brutal times in American history. I think we know a little more about that through experience than you do Ms. McGuire and we know how to view our heroines and heros. I don't mean to be rude, but we do not need a white woman telling us how to view Ms. Parks. I personally find that very offensive. It would be as if we told you how to view Eleanor Roosevelt, who could be characterized with all of her accomplishments as being a weak woman who chose to stay with a philandering husband rather than strike out on her own as any black woman would have done.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:32 am | Report abuse |
    • karengautney

      If you have a theory about how we should view Eleanor Roosevelt, please write an essay and get it published. I will take it into account, but I won't perceive it as you "telling me what to think" any more than I think this essay "tells me what to think." It's a well reasoned opinion by a respected historian. That is all. Please pass that on to the massive chip on your shoulder.

      December 1, 2012 at 7:41 am | Report abuse |
    • Frank Y

      So.. wait.. was she black or african American? I get confused.. what do you call a black person in China, for example African-Chinese?

      December 1, 2012 at 7:49 am | Report abuse |
      • jack paulden

        Good Point....a more correct description could be, "A brave woman of African descent"! This is the United States (of) America the continent....Not United States (is) America....so you could also add, A brave woman of African Descent whose ancestors were kidnapped for slavery by White Christians. According to Howard Zinn's writings the suggestion to kidnap and enslave Africans was suggested by a Catholic priest or bishop who was raping children in South America.

        December 1, 2012 at 8:12 am | Report abuse |
      • Keshalaws

        It is okay to be confused as a lot of people who refuse to put logic first tend to do. Black is a race, African American is a nationality. As in, Naomi Campbell is Black but not an African America because she is British.So the answer to your question is, yes!

        December 1, 2012 at 8:25 am | Report abuse |
      • T Lig

        Frank Y,….what do you call a black person in China? The same that you would call a black person in France. A NIGERIAN, or a KENYAN, or an ETHIOPIAN, or a SOUTH AFRICAN, …etc. The difference is they knew where they are from and have pride in their heritage. We “blacks” in America, because of the atrocities of slavery, (which I’m sure you refuse to even research or acknowledge), were stripped of all heritage. (Not to mention stripped naked to be whipped and raped.) The children were separated from their parents before they could even be taught any of their heritage.
        I don’t want to persist with such a negative reply, but the first step for us ALL to move forward is to stop denying what has happened in the past, as well as what is still happening in the present. If we only viewed ourselves as “blacks”, then our history began on a slave ship from Africa packed in like sardines…. But as “African Americans”, then we can take pride in descending from mighty kings and warriors such as Zaka Zulu, etc. Yes, you are “confused”, but so are some of us. That’s why some of us call ourselves by the same “N” word that the oppressors called us. But the majority of us take pride in who we are. (Not to mention, Whose we are…) And that is what has enabled us to overcome everything from slavery, to Jim Crow, and being forced to sit in the BACK OF THE BUS!

        December 1, 2012 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
      • pazke

        T Lig! Awesome post! 🙂

        December 1, 2012 at 9:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      So LCSW, white Americans can't inform other Americans about MLK? Does this mean that a black American history professor/teacher shouldn't teach about George Washington or the other Founders?

      December 1, 2012 at 8:12 am | Report abuse |
    • chill

      History is history, who cares about the race or the ethnicity of the writer? as long as the essay is based on the facts, we can all learn somthing. I am a Chinese, and if you know something about my culture, I would be more than happy to learn from you and your perspective. No matter who tells the story, the more we learn about each other, and listen to one another, the more we can be more understanding and compassionate toward one another.

      December 1, 2012 at 8:12 am | Report abuse |
      • Har Har

        There will never be compassion. Just finger pointing. The key is not compassion it's acceptance and tolerance. Human nature and natural instinct can be observed on any playground. Races will huddle with the same races before racism is even learned of. Same thing happens in nature all around us. Again, the key is acceptance and tolerance.

        December 1, 2012 at 9:24 am | Report abuse |
    • lagergeld

      I'm sorry but if you think a segregated potty chair was the most "brutal time in American history," I have an iceberg in Florida to sell you.

      The problem with the author's presentation of Parks is that she intentionally sanitizes the history. She leaves out that Parks was a well-known Marxist agitator and her membership in the Communist Party was her motivation in doing what she was doing. She and her comrades wanted to initiate the Red Terror in this country.

      Rosa Parks was no hero, she was a butcher-in-waiting and that is no exaggeration.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Deanna

        Im young and I know that but I think I have a right to answer. I have friends of all races white, spanish, chinese, italian, indian etc but when we hang out together there is race we r just ppl.We just come together as one race maybe we r all black or all white the point is we work together and defend each other. Im mean just from these post we seem so divided. so go on a trip around america or around the world and learn that we r all human not one of us are barbaric creatures we r all people. And reading these comments scares me Im only 14 is this the America that I live in? Its ppl like you who cut down and destroy my history and I won't let you. grown up look around you its 2012 and black ppl are here to stay. What rosa parks did in her past is in the past everyone makes a mistake but that day she sat on the seat she shows them that we r not your slaves anymore that I have a voice and Im gonna use it . so dont insult her for speaking up like you are about ur opinions. word of advice if a teenage girl is more tolerant and educated then an adult like u there is a serious problem.

        December 9, 2012 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
  86. Rich

    A great lady...

    December 1, 2012 at 7:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Its Bubba

      What do you mean...She's an Awesome Lady...Stood her Ground and Voiced her postion without fear...Integrity my friend...
      I wish I was their with you Rosa Park at that time... I would sit with you anywhere on the bus

      Its Bubba

      December 1, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • lagergeld

      Great at being a Communist Party agitator, you're right. Just imagine had she gotten her way and we'd have a Red Terror in this country. I don't think you'd be singing praises like media-fed livestock.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
  87. nytw

    Why do liberals have to hate everyone and everything American?

    December 1, 2012 at 7:26 am | Report abuse |
    • wombattesting

      Wasn't Rosa Parks an American?

      December 1, 2012 at 7:57 am | Report abuse |
    • J R Brown

      George Washington owning slaves was in every history book I had in school...what schools did you attend?
      George Washington having extremely large holdings in the hemp market was also in the history books.

      Since liberals are generally in control of our public education establishments, maybe you should be asking liberals and not conservatives why our educational system is now so "whitewashed".

      December 1, 2012 at 8:23 am | Report abuse |
    • e

      Actually George Washington did not own slaves, Martha did. He used their services but had no legal ownership.

      December 1, 2012 at 8:56 am | Report abuse |
    • e

      Who in this article is not American?
      You realize descendants of slaves have been American longer than most white people? They are more American than all of the people who came into Ellis Island.

      December 1, 2012 at 8:58 am | Report abuse |
      • lagergeld

        Hi, e. Two things:

        1) Rosa Parks was a Marxist agitator.
        2) If most white Americans haven't been here as long as slaves, why are all white Americans told to pay reparations?

        December 1, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
  88. jonnyg

    There is no point in stirring the race pot daily in the liberal media, unless it's to keep relations between the races from getting better. That would seem to be the motivation with liberals

    December 1, 2012 at 7:26 am | Report abuse |
  89. Angela

    It is enormously interesting to find out more about Rosa Parks – and I am sure many already have. But it is no question of freeing anyone from the bus or any such glimmick presentation. Can we just be adults about our approach to history? Someone is famous for one outstanding courageous act. Naturally this is a person of substance. Let's find out about that substance. This kind of presentation is heavy with undergraduate breathlessness.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Manoti Tietie

      Just to agree with you, Angela. This professor of history just found out that there is something about Rosa Parks' activist life that she did not know, and she, apparently, assumes that other people, including those that she contemptuously labels "eulogists" of the Civil Rights icon, did not know it either. I do not envy her students one bit.

      December 1, 2012 at 8:15 am | Report abuse |
    • lagergeld

      Let's indeed discuss this "person of substance." She was a known Marxist agitator and all of her actions were based on this ideological foundation. Why is this not discussed? She and her comrades wanted to unleash the Red Terror in this country. Why is this not discussed?

      I think it is clear why: The media leans left and wants to cast her as a heroine, and to do that, they have to lie whole-cloth about her.

      December 1, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
  90. D. Franklin Estes

    After reading posting by Tyrone, Kevin and J,it becomes apparent we as a society haven't advanced much in terms of gender and racial equality since the days of Rosa Parks.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:18 am | Report abuse |
    • jonnyg

      That is exactly what the liberal media wants you to think, whether it's true or not doesn't matter to them as long as they have enough stooges to believe it their pot stirring

      December 1, 2012 at 7:28 am | Report abuse |
  91. Taleigha Burroughs

    It's a fact. It's like a melting pot. One drop of Irish, Cherokee, Norwegian, African and German. Rarely you'll meet someone who is 100% pure of 1 nationality. Ask around – "Are you within 1 nationality?" You'll get more no's more than a yes.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Will S

      Race nationality.

      December 1, 2012 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
  92. NHop

    These revelations cause me to admire Rosa Parks even more. What a woman!

    December 1, 2012 at 7:17 am | Report abuse |
  93. Markisamoron


    December 1, 2012 at 7:15 am | Report abuse |
  94. jackson

    was she a champion for ladies moustaches? Look at that, better than Groucho Marx' stache.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:14 am | Report abuse |
  95. Taleigha Burroughs

    Well, in this society, light skinned black people can be mixed with other races, not just white.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:13 am | Report abuse |
  96. Crystal

    It's great to learn more about Rosa Parks life. Thank You.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Humberto

      How much did Rosa Parks make on this article. ?

      December 1, 2012 at 7:12 am | Report abuse |
  97. Amaurys

    Nice article. However I think your missing one BIG point. Yes she admired,Marcus,and Malcolm,but her ACTIONS manifested in the NON VIOLENCE movement that lead the way for righteousness to conquer evil.

    I have seen a trend in the past 20 years to somehow compare the African American civil rights movement to others. There is NO comparison. Slavery was the rawest form of evil.

    December 1, 2012 at 7:05 am | Report abuse |
  98. Courtney

    great article...so often history is romanticized because that version is easier to digest. America isn't perfect but I believe its' generally headed in the right direction...No person nor country is perfect.

    December 1, 2012 at 6:59 am | Report abuse |
  99. phil swinford

    The textbook and the myth wind up offering one dimensional images of nearly all of us. There is always a before and an after to "defining moments". The mug shot is as important as the "tired feet". Maybe more so. Thanks for offering more flesh and blood to the story of Ms. Parks.

    December 1, 2012 at 6:57 am | Report abuse |
  100. J

    Lets see if we can shoehorn Rosa Parks in to global warming pet causes too.

    December 1, 2012 at 6:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Call Me Crazy

      Give them time, they will find a way.

      December 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
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