DREAMer's clout increases in immigration debate
DREAMers are some undocumented youth who would have benefitted from the DREAM Act.
January 26th, 2013
09:00 AM ET

DREAMer's clout increases in immigration debate

By Mariano Castillo, CNN

(CNN) - When Erika Andiola's mother and brother were detained by immigration agents this month, she jumped to action.

She summoned the help of undocumented youths like herself, known as DREAMers, and within hours, immigration officials were flooded with dozens of phone calls.

Andiola's mother and brother were released.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say the detention of the pair and their eventual release had nothing to do with Andiola's activism.

But that does not dampen her spirit. As far as she is concerned, the DREAMers snatched her mother from the brink of deportation.

"For us to get them to do that, it takes a lot of pressure," she said.

Her work, along with other DREAMers, has increasingly become a powerful voice shaping discussions on immigration reform, which President Obama has vowed to pass in his second term.

Dubbed DREAMers, their name is derived from the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, which, if passed,  would have granted some undocumented immigrant youth legal status in return for attending college or joining the military.

In 2009, DREAMers knocked on doors and begged for support of the DREAM Act, a bill that would have provided a path to citizenship for certain youth who came to the United States as children and live in the country illegally.

Today, the movement  is enjoying a certain amount of clout.

Andiola tapped into the DREAMer network to aid in the return of her mother and brother. But her activism also got her a job with newly elected Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Arizona.

Last summer, the Democrats gave the DREAMers their biggest stage, at the Democratic National Convention.  Benita Veliz became the first undocumented immigrant to give a speech at the convention, sharing her story of a high achiever with limited opportunities because of her status.

It's not just Democrats who are listening.

When Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, announced a new immigration proposal this month, he made a point to mention that he had consulted with DREAMers.

As Rubio began working on legislation to address the issue, his staff bounced the proposals by DREAM activists, said the senator's press secretary, Alex Conant.

"We believe there is broad support for letting people who came to the U.S. at a young age, grew up here and are undocumented through no fault of their own stay in the country," Conant said. "We will continue to seek their input as we work on a legislation to legalize their status."

State and national conferences are bringing undocumented immigrant youths together and introducing them to the halls of power.

"The power has been there, what is happening now is that that power is being showcased," said Jose Luis Zelaya, a graduate student at Texas A&M University and DREAM activist.

He says the movement is more organized than before, thanks to partnerships with more experienced organizations, and years of lobbying.

"We have planted a seed and hard work and dedication," Zelaya said. "Maybe a year ago we didn't see the fruit, but only because the tree was still growing."

In 2009 and 2010, Zelaya was among those who lobbied Congress for the DREAM Act. Back then, Zelaya remembers the activists "running from coast to coast, looking for recognition."

The bill ultimately failed, but the DREAM activists did not lose their momentum, and continued to lobby.  Last year, when President Obama issued an executive order granting a temporary reprieve for eligible undocumented youth to apply for a two-year work permit,  it gave the group credibility, they say.

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The president's deferred action policy, similar to the proposed DREAM Act, "gave us breathing room," Zelaya said.

It also raised the profiles of the activists.

As Zelaya waited for his work permit, he began crocheting to make ends meet. He was invited to Miami to talk about his crochet business  on Univision. The hosts surprised him on camera with his work permit.

Off camera, some DREAMers find themselves juggling schedules filled with speeches, interviews and conferences at the state and national level.

Now, tracking down leaders like Andiola requires going through a press officer.

Many believed the DREAMers were fighting for a lost cause after the DREAM Act didn't get the needed votes, Andiola said. But they persisted. "We've been able to prove a lot of people wrong," she said.

Their next challenge is to lobby for immigration reform that would go beyond border security and help keep immigrant families from being separated, they say.

To their critics, who bristle that a group of undocumented immigrants have found an audience among politicians, activists and journalists, Andiola advises that they, too, organize.

"We really want to empower the community, not just the undocumented community," she said.

soundoff (487 Responses)
  1. dontbow

    Yes because the dums won the election, we now have to pay for illegals social security and free healthcare. We have heard this a million times cnn. Would you care to flip the bill ?

    January 26, 2013 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
  2. dartell

    Just imagine the numbers if Islamic extremist have cross the boarder.
    Who stops them.

    Also, what of the health threats of illegals crossing the border with contagions.

    Who stops such possible transfer of contaminates into US population.

    January 26, 2013 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
  3. tea party usa1

    Many Americans are fed up AND WANT ALL ILLEGALS DEPORTED. Mexicans come here then bankrupt our schools and communitys,take money from our social programs and bankrupt them. They Dont just pick Fruits they take middleclass jobs and destroy wages because they will work for pennies on the dollar. They laugh in our faces every day parading around their Mexican flag plastering it on the tee shirts,car bumpers,homes while they take from the American Tax payer. They get free schooling and college while we have to worry about our kids schooling. Businesses shut down because they cant compete with the ones that hire illegals..........To top it off they lower our home values because they bring crime and turn our streets into slum ghettos like in Mexico........I do not want the USA to turn into Mexico.......

    January 26, 2013 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • gop usa

      You are correct illegals hurt America on so many levels,yet these DREAMERS think they are owed something after all they have stolen from the American people already.......

      January 26, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • john

      then why don't YOU work for pennies? if you need a job so bad. A job is a job. Or if you feel so much better qualified, why don't YOU go to Mexico and become CEO of one of their companies and take over their country?

      January 26, 2013 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  4. J R Brown

    If it wasn't clear before, it can't be ANY clearer now...the Democrats are rewarding illegal immigration with amnesty for votes. This is treasonous, not 'progressive".

    January 26, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  5. gop usa

    Round them all up at the schools and send them all back to Mexico........then find their parents at work or in their homes and deport them. No chances ,no Amnesty. They have stole from the American people long enough.......

    January 26, 2013 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joe

      You are so stupid, and that’s why GOP is losing support; So they should send all illegals (Asians, Europeans, central and south Americans, even Canadians) to Mexico. Educate yourself first so you can get a Job.

      January 26, 2013 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
  6. RENEE'

    I just want to know how in the %$* do you get into school without a social security number?

    January 26, 2013 at 3:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • m11worth

      You do what every ILLEGAL does, you steal one!

      January 27, 2013 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
  7. gop usa

    Many Americans are fed up AND WANT ALL ILLEGALS DEPORTED. Mexicans come here then bankrupt our schools and communitys,take money from our social programs and bankrupt them. They Dont just pick Fruits they take middleclass jobs and destroy wages because they will work for pennies on the dollar. They laugh in our faces every day parading around their Mexican flag plastering it on the tee shirts,car bumpers,homes while they take from the American Tax payer. They get free schooling and college while we have to worry about our kids schooling. Businesses shut down because they cant compete with the ones that hire illegals..........To top it off they lower our home values because they bring crime and turn our streets into slum ghettos like in Mexico........I do not want the USA to turn into Mexico.......since they Miss Mexico so much lets help them return home and deport every last one of them,then put sharpshooters at the border to get the message across that they cannot come here and rip off the American people.....

    January 26, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
  8. RENEE'

    I say let "We The People" vote on the issue of immigration and decide their fate! From the post I've read thus far We The People say send them PACKING!!!

    January 26, 2013 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Your Mom

      I never said that.

      January 28, 2013 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
  9. gop usa

    Line them all up and make them March back to the border,dont even waste the gas on transporting them.......they want to come here and break our laws and milk the tax payers they can all March 100s of miles back....may teah them a lesson hopefully

    January 26, 2013 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • RENEE'

      The question of the day, "Now What?" Howabout you take the education you stole from America and crawl back from which you came and use that energy to clean up your own country. America herself is broken and until we find the energy to revive ourselves I say scew the rest of the parasites looking to USA for support of any kind!

      January 26, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
  10. dartell

    Ask these dreamers, who their loyalty are for,

    The United States of America and its laws or their families host country?


    January 26, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Devils Advocate 101

    If the word American has no meaning to you; you might want to re-evaluate what you think your parents were triing to provide for you. Many have served,many have died just for the hope that someday they could call America their country. Among those were Legal immigrants, former and current slaves, American Indians, Pilgrams ,and many others on who's backs this Great nation was built. of whose heart the belief of freedom was forged. you single-handdedly made mi9llions turn in their graves; and personally make me sick to my stomach.

    January 26, 2013 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
  12. taco bell

    Amazes me the amount of racists replying to this article. Claiming illegals have destroyed our economy and jobs for US residents.

    SOOOOO, the bush admistration and mulitple wars crashing economy has nothing to do with it? wake up idiots.

    January 26, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Devils Advocate 101

      you thinking playiing the race card really distracts intellegent people from the real issue?? Oh how shallow can one be. mabey you haven't realized it yet, but education is available for free in all languages now; go get one, then come back and join the rest of us. Just a a thought!

      January 26, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Tom

    Guess we are not looking at countries with lax immigration policies like the UK and Canada to see the consequences of uncontrolled immigration. This just makes a mockery of the word "illegal".

    January 26, 2013 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Alexis Ortiz

    Not everybody pays taxes, some use alternative names so they avoid paying taxes, I know a few.

    January 26, 2013 at 3:31 pm | Report abuse |
  15. m11worth

    Dreamers, nothing!! IILLEGALS AND THIEVES! They all need to be deported as our laws dictate! They are then never supposed to be allowed back in this country! What makes them think just because their parents got away with breaking our laws, stealing identities, and everything else they've gotten while here, they are entitled to even more?? People need to contact their elected officials and demand they honor the oaths they took when sworn into office. That was to ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS!!! There is no need to spend millions to pass new laws, when existing ones would work fine if enforced. Our kids will once again be pushed aside to accommodate "minorities", who never should be here to begin with! Their parents' best punishment and deterrent would be to see their kids pay for the crimes they committed, by deporting all of them. They want to keep families together....deport them all together. Why don't they dream about what they could do to improve their own countries, and go back there?? This is ridiculous! And learn to speak English!!

    January 26, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Guest

    I am guessing most of you remember this from 2010 – when the Congressional Budget Office conducted their cost-benefit analysis of the Dream Act, they concluded that it would decrease deficits by 1.4 billion dollars during the 2011-2020 period. After this time, due to expenditures for Medicaid, SNAP,etc., it would cost the gov't at least 5 billion – so at the very least a multibillion-dollar loss. Note that the CBO does not speculate on the impact of increased immigrant education, though, and estimates from certain assumably unbiased sources, like the Maryland Institute for Policy Analysis and Research predict some offset of costs (from increased income taxes and decreased gov't incarceration expenditure) when this is taken into account (it is irrelevant that their calculation was for the MD version of the Dream Act since my point is only to show that federal and state revenue CAN be generated from the pursuit of a higher education). So, in conclusion, I don't think there is necessarily overwhelming evidence to fiscally justify either naturalization or maintaining their "illegal" status. Also note – a mass deportation effort is expected to cost hundreds of billions of dollars and would therefore be much less practical than either of the above.

    January 26, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • jfreb

      We do not have to worry about the cost of a mass deportation; we only have to take away the incentives for illegals coming and staying in the country, as well as hold business accountable that they hire legally eligible applicants. The rest will sort its way out.

      January 29, 2013 at 8:41 am | Report abuse |
  17. SomeGuyInDenver

    How about we pass the DREAM Act right after Mexico passes one allowing illegal Guatemalan immigrants the same privileges?

    January 26, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Joey joe

    Well start by lining up your parents and grandparents. Not all came here legally.

    January 26, 2013 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Frank A

      Keep trolling moron

      January 26, 2013 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Tea party america

    Every town should form Militias and go street to street and round them up,load them in trucks and dump them off on the Mexican Border........I am sure Many fed up Americans would Volunteer to help the gov out. We are tired of The Mexicans stealing our resources and bankrupting our schools and communitys,taking middleclass jobs and turning our citys into slums like in Mexico......we do not want the drugs,violence and donkey carts on every corner with Mexican flags plastered to them, they parade their Mexican flag at every chance they have.......yet they pretend they love America. They only love our Tax dollars and schools,jobs..........They all need to be deported no exception

    January 26, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      I'm in..... When do we start?

      January 26, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Report abuse |
  20. reader10

    Tell the world it is ok to come here illegal. Young and old.
    As long as you come here by the millions.
    Our spineless leaders will support you as long as you promise to vote for them.
    Do not worry about the courts they will not enforce it.
    And to our leaders do not say Bless America but say Bless Mexico for getting reelected.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
  21. El Gran Machete

    I say, if we want to embrace the illegals, then let's just plain open all borders, then everyone will be equal, and have equal rights to enter here! And i will tell all my relatives that have been patiently waiting, going thru the process, I will just tell them they are a bunch of loosers wasting their time since there are other ways. Lets atop the charade and open the borders then.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gab

      Well said!!!!

      January 26, 2013 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kathleen Lawler

        Ditto To much free stuff including education is given to illegals. When hard working Americans have to find a way to pay for thier own children. Can you imagine they are illegal too and are protesting. They should be sent back too. They need to respect our officals and not protest.

        January 26, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      It took my friend, who is a US citizen, and a USMC Vet, like myself, over a year to bring his wife of 5 years into the US. He paid around $8000, no complaints he knew what the proper way was. It ticks him off to see illegals doing it for nothing and them pilfering the system.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • m11worth

      That is the biggest mystery to me.....why is there not a major outcry from those who worked so hard to do this the right way?? Are you not telling electeds that this isn't right?? Why ignore those who are NOT BREAKING OUR LAWS? Deport them as you find them, and let the next person waiting in line LEGALLY take their place!! It is a slap in the face to those immigrants who truly respect our laws.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Devils Advocate 101

      how about declaring illegal immigration a threat (officially) to National Security ,a declaration of war upon this country, which it is and allow the citizen to protect themselves, their families and property, their country by repeling without predudice those who dare to cross the river stixx

      January 26, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Devils Advocate 101

    When you, you stand up and fight to exhaustion for your own home country , you put your life on the line, you eliminate the tyrants that hold your country hostage; then come talk to us. Do not expect sympathy or us to fight your battles when all you have the nerve to do is tuck tail, whine, and run. The US was not nor will it be sustain by an influx of weak beggars. There r many uninhabited islands available, pool your pesos move there

    January 26, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Joey joe


    January 26, 2013 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Joey joe

    Most of these immigrants work in restaurants, groceries stores, shipping docks, cheap hotels, farms, I really don't see American people lined up for those jobs. CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THEM!!! The majority do pay income tax.
    Even if they claim the most dependents they still pay social security.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gab

      Really? Give citizenship to the same people and see how quickly they quit those jobs 🙂 There should be NO illegal workers in those small businesses!

      January 26, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      oh please they don't pay income tax, let me guess.....it shows on thier W-2?

      January 26, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • m11worth

      Yeah..under STOLEN SS #s!!! They are thieves! They steal taxpayer paid education for their kids, along with health care, and every other benefit they can get....and still won't learn the language! Maybe if your identity is stolen you'd understand it better... they aren't here LEGALLY!! They broke laws as their very first activity in this country!! What's so hard to understand??

      January 26, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Devils Advocate 101

      wake up Jose' there are thousands of out of work citizens who would gladly take those jobs. Given the oppurtunity Americans will work jobs they dont like or want to feed their families or move off the streets. That weak argument was dispelled long ago by common sense alone.

      January 26, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Jodie

    I love it when I see Dreamers on TV and they say "I have never broken the law". DUDE – by BEING here you are breaking the law. That is the fundamental problem with this group. They refuse to understand that their very presence IS BREAKING THE LAW. Until the undocumented people in the United States can grasp the REALITY that they are IN FACT breaking the law, we cannot have meaningful dialogue on immigration. The leadership pushing for citizenship for these people needs to pull their heads out of ...... and step up and start acknowledging this. They also need to come up with a plan to deal with the fact that all of these people they support are blatantly BREAKING THE LAW. I agree with the poster who said that this group of people is just poking the rest of us in the eye – and WE THE PEOPLE need to stand up and say NO MORE.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  26. patilla10

    I'm so dismayed by Obama considering the Dream Act. How about considering the fact that my grandchildren are struggling to pay interest on THEIR school loans? Is this what's paying for the latinos to have first privileges? I detest their pushiness and flawed thinking that they belong here ahead of those who could REALLY be contributing to our country and who are willing to learn our language and wave OUR flag! It's time they, La Raza, and their sympathizers were all boomeranged back to Mexico or whatever country they came from. They have NO pride in the US! If they did, they would have come the legal route, been willing to speak our language like our ancestors before them, and not pushed their slimy way to the top of the ladder on the backs of those who already are citizens. Every corporation who hires them should also be deported to Mexico. Start writing to your representatives and the President about your feelings, people. They don't have time to read these comments. I thank CNN for the opportunity, though, to allow us to let the illegal latino community and their sympathizers know exactly how we true Americans feel about this situation.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joey joe

      Isn't the dream act funded by private funds. Not government funds. Here in Illinois immigrants have to pay for their tuition.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  27. terri

    From day one, we have been a nation of immigrents. Unless your ancestors were native americans, you are the product of immigration! If people work, pay taxes and do not commit crimes, they are contributing to a stronger America. Dreamers came here by no will of their own. They worked hard and earned an education that was paid for by the taxes of americans, legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. Put the money paid for their education to good use and let them make a stronger future for all of us. Same goes for students of other countries who have come here for college and grad school and want to stay. Statistics show that our education and inovation are slipping badly so when we have people who want to put their education to work in the US and want to innovate,welcome them with open arms. If they commit crimes, send them back.

    It's simple, embrace the contributers and deport the non-contributors. Now if we could just find a way to deport all the americans who are taking and committing crimes, we would really be ahead of the game.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gab

      Do you understand there is a difference between getting in legally and illegally ? In those days, America was still in it's infancy. TODAY's WORLD IS DIFFERENT!

      We DO NOT want to encourage illegal immigration!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Troy

      Is cranial/rectal inversion painful? You are either a braindamaged dem or share an ethnic background with these illegal alien unwanted criminals.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Devils Advocate 101

      In the "Real World" we understand this history, political climate, and the differance between legal and illegal. This is 2013 by the way ..

      January 26, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • x3zy

      They are not contributing. They are taking jobs away from American citizens.

      January 26, 2013 at 8:07 pm | Report abuse |
  28. RobertUSMC

    I'm sorry, but they should have NO say, they are not citizens. there is no ifs, ands or buts. Its plain and simple. I have absolutely no say in any other country in the world, and very little in my own country, the fact that we are giving citizens of other countries sway on our laws is ridiculous. You want to be a teacher? Go teach in Mexico, they can sure use it.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Pat O'Toomey

    Send them back where they came from – we don't need more illegal immigrants eating our society from within.
    US citizens are having trouble finding work and we're wasting resources on these criminals?

    My great-grad pappy was an illiterate worker from Ireland, who came over and worked his whole life in the coal mines and he didn't need a government hand-out.
    And most of them can't speak english good – our official language!
    Go Home – we have too many of you anyway!
    Build a border wall and arm it with computer guided laser-scoped automatic rifles and set mines in a no-mans land at the border. Problem solved – any illegal that tries to make it across will be turned into instant shredded taco meat.

    God, I hate poor people!

    January 26, 2013 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • lizzy

      They can't speak english "good"? Sounds like you need a grammar lesson yourself, son. Check yourself before you act a fool.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • taco bell

      you're such a typical american idiot.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Devils Advocate 101

    Thats 16% more jobs for Americans, 16% less free Healthcare expense, 30% less drugs,theft of jobs, personel property,health care,. 16% Americans could put a heck of a dent in the construction of an electricuted wall; thus saving many lives of innocent children and citizens. providing income for many impoverished American families.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Jacob

    White couch potatoes seem to know the law without educating themselves. Its known for some time that America is falling behind in education, from these posts, its obvious the white establishment of hate is a bunch of hot air, with ignorance as its base.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • bannister

      America is falling behind in education because blacks and Hispanics are dragging down the overall test scores. If you compare the test scores of white and Asian children in America to white and Asian children in say, Canada, you'll find that the test scores are almost the same! It is the poor performance of blacks and Hispanics that are skewing the nation's results.

      By the way – Hispanics are at a 50% High School Dropout rate, maybe you want to think about THAT because you go criticizing the intelligence of white people!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Jeff

    I've always wanted to live in Scotland. Maybe I'll just go there and whine and complain how it isn't fair, and I should be given citizenship if only I take up room in their universities and their workplace. Surely, they will have the kindness to let me stay, no?

    My guess is I get sent back on the first flight to Detroit...

    January 26, 2013 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jacob

      White paranoia, is a disease that is closing doors for the progress of the USA. Instead white paranoia enjoys Meth, Marijuana, Cocaine to fuel its drive to hate anyone of color..... lose your teeth while the crazies are at it.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Law Abiding Immigrant

    My wife immigrated legally 21 years ago. ( not free) For 21 years had to check in with US Immigration to reassure her status 4 times to maintain legal status. (not free) Today is required to pay $700 to legally apply for citizenship. Why should unlawful persons get special status? Why the double standard?

    January 26, 2013 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kenman

      I salute your wife, and she is a welcome addition to the American family!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
  34. david

    Half of all illegals are in California, it's bankrupted us. We are not safe, and they have bled the welfare, schools, hospitals, and jails to the point that we can't continue their takeover.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kenman

      That's right, the liberals in California have bankrupted it and the rest of the country will have to bail them out, then they'll brag about how successful and progressive they are!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vet543

      This is so true....and now they are moving to northern states. I live in a small town in Washington State...there is no industry here for migrant workers...yet half the town seems to be Mexicans that don't speak English. Even the Home Depot has signs written in English and Spanish. This town forty years ago was not like this.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Dariana

    We are fighter and we wont stop until we accomplish our goals.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • patilla10

      I totally agree! You're the pushiest ethnic element to have ever invaded the US. And that's what you've done – invaded us.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dariana

        Sure, call it what you want. 🙂

        January 26, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  36. ESLteacha

    Dave, exactly how many countries in South America are "messed up'? Can you even name all of South America? Do you think Mexico is in South AMerica? Chile, Argentina, and Uruguay amongst others have economies on par with Europe. I rarely meet immigrants at all from those countries.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
  37. pancholo

    Hope for an immigration reform. Then not only the dreamers can stay but all their families.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Devils Advocate 101

      I hope for immigration reform too, reform of the current system that allows citizenship to babies born here of parents that are illegal, reform of free healthcare to illigal aliens, reform of laws that do not allow our Border Patrol officers to use deadly force.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Matt

    Rubio is a RINO fool

    January 26, 2013 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • tarura

      It's all about getting votes.

      We need a reaganite badly.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • m11worth

        Reagan was the one who granted amnesty to millions last!!! What are you talking about???

        January 26, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tea party america

      Deport Rubio too he does nothing but promote illegals..........after all he is an illegal here too that got amnesty

      January 26, 2013 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • gop usa

        I agree Rubio is nothing but a token for the GOP

        January 26, 2013 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • maria

        Yes indeed! and what about Jeff Bush wife form Mexico? now his son is trying the political arena too.....in this Country monety talks one of them will be the future President unfortunally!

        January 26, 2013 at 9:30 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Paul

    If you were in Mexico and illegal, you wouldn't dare announce that fact because you'd be beaten, or worse, and then deported immediately. These students are poking us in the eye – they're saying, "Yes, we're illegal and three's NOTHING you can do about it"! Amazing but true.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • MeeBee

      It's difficult though because many of those kids probably came here against their will, before they were even old enough to understand what was going on. Now standing up like this and announcing it and demanding rights when someone broke the law big time to get them here is not right, I agree. But a lot of times these kids are just here minding their own keeping their head trying to make it and make the best with what they have.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • m11worth

      It makes me sick that they can stand up announce it, go on TV and announce it, and not a single thing is done!! Instead, some other immigrant who made it big, pays for a free education for them in a college they have no right to attend, because they are here ILLEGALLY!!!

      January 26, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
  40. want2believe

    Yeah I remember when America ended the last time we gave amnesty to illegal immigrants with Reagen...

    January 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Legal Immigrant US Citizen

    I have been living in the US for almost 20 years and came here using the front door. Got my masters, green card, and US CItizenship, long process but followed the law since I stepped in US soil in all ways.

    I've always paid my taxes, insurance and medical bills. I became part of the society and love this country with my heart.

    I do not agree with giving ILLEGALS a free ticket(free healthcare, education, food stamps, citizenship etc..), it is unfair and they should go back to their home country and if they want to return they need to follow the rules. a

    January 26, 2013 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • m11worth

      So have you contacted your elected officials, written the White House (right online), or done anything to help stop this unfair treatment?? I don't know a soul who has an issue with a person like you being here.....and those like you should be stepping up and denouncing these efforts to make it OK to break the law, or change the laws!

      January 26, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • peterloks

      youre still a foreigner and america hates you... unless youre white.

      January 26, 2013 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Yikes

    The worrying trend about this group of people and the laws that they are looking to establish, is that they would have essentially been the most powerful group of law breaking citizens to influence the political realm. Simply by being in america they have broken the law. I am truly afraid of any group of people that could actively break the law and put enough political pressure on our politicians to restrain their enforcement of the law. In essence they now open the door to any us law. If a group of people break the law peacefully and in large numbers they could in essence have that law overturned or amended. It started with marijuana it has moved to illegal immigration. In theory if there was a rather large vocal group of citizens who decided to hold onto automatic machien guns and did not use those weapons for harm could they if the group became large enough be able to amend the rules so that every american could own a machine gun. Now that is an extreme example that I dont believe would ever come to fruition but lets look at some real possiblities. Could cocaine ever be a legal drug if more people just decided to start using it openly. Could laws against public nudity go away if enough people decided to openly break the law. If enough school districts decided that they wanted to have student pray in school would it be possible for our government to stop them.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Kenman

    Jobs, social services, actual theft items, our freedom from most Hispanic and Third World Gangs, our integrity as a "nation of laws", our political and national sovereignty, the effectiveness of our school systems, our education dollars, our American culture by living as they lived in their Third World countries and centrralized pockets of cultures, our standard of living, our security, our national allegiance, and I could go on.

    But, if you don't understand that our country is being irrevocably altered, politically, socially, and in some areas militaristically, and through the means of ILLEGAL entry into our borders of limited land, resources and wealth, then I doubt that your eyes can be opened to the harsh reality that WE cannot take in all the world.

    And, it would be better still if they stayed in their own already corrupted countries and tried to save THEM from within, rather than take advantage of liberals' invitation to come here as the next generation of dependents and Democrat voters.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Devils Advocate 101

    you want the benefits, serve honorably in an active duty branch of our services for minimum of 3 years at which time you should be eligible for citizenship concideration given you have no connection to drug cartels or currupt Mexicant goverment officials. This should not include automatic citizinship for family members or children born here in a US hospital of which we have to pay the bill. Dreams are good but they arenot a handout,

    January 26, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Millenial Mike

    They may be large and influential, but there are more of us than them. White, black, asian, native, latin, there are far more millions of natural born and naturalized citizens who will not stand for amnesty for illegals. Every natural born and naturalized millenial in this country ought to be outraged. There are not enough jobs for legal millenials – now they have to share with people who are illegal??? This is absurd. And if I were a legal imigrant who came here LEGALLY and paid thousands of dollars to do so, I would also be outraged. This is enough to make me vote for Ann Coulter and I am a democrat!

    January 26, 2013 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Devils Advocate 101


      January 26, 2013 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • MeeBee

      Well said. I am Mexican and I understand their plight, but I also know that these have a sense of entitilement, not just in this case, but in their daily lives that even I find outrageous. I sponsored my Polish Candadian husband and paid over $2000 to get his green card. He works legally, he pays taxes, he has assimilated. I think maybe children of illegals born here who do pay taxes and make their way have a case. But not those who are here illegally seeking the same priveleges as other law abiding citizens.

      January 26, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Fred Perea

    How much is this costing the legitimate Americans who actually pay taxes?

    January 26, 2013 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Millenial Mike

      Never mind taxes, think of the jobs your kids are loosing to these criminals. You just paid 100K to send you kid to school and now they loose a job to an illegal. It is absurd and Obama should be impeached if he gives these criminals one more inch. HIS KIDS will never have to worry about losing a job to a criminal. Why should we?

      January 26, 2013 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kenman

      That's quite the canard since liberals have eliminated millions of taxpayers in their socialist efforts to attack the successful and give to their voter base sitting at home seething that they aren't given more.

      But, if you don't understand the cost to our culture, our economy, our educational system, our sovereignty, our once great place as a "nation of laws", then there is probably nothing anyone can say to you to make you realize that to bleed ourselves dry trying to take in the world, legal and ILLEGAL, would destroy us and any chance many of these Third World citizens have in the world.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Orid


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  47. Tea party america

    I had a Dream for America that all the Mexican Illegals were Magically deported back to Mexico! Illegals should never get Amnesty,they can go back to Mexico and make it a better place to live like we did here. Dreamers keep dreaming because thats all it will be is a dream or a fantasy you will get your papers.............You should all be jailed for the crimes you commited against the American people,and forced to pay back the American people for all the jobs,resources,and the violence they bring here.Deport them all.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Law Abiding Immigrant

      Come on. Some of my best friends are from immigrant parents ( legal though) and bring good family values , hard work and are rather intelligent people. I know a few white folk I would like deported.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  48. William Moncrief

    Why are Hispanics the only people allowed and supported in this country illegally. What about people from India who pay over 10K for their green cards and actually have jobs, pay taxes, have healthcare they pay for and don't get the benefits the Hispanic community gets. Why? Because Hispanics vote Democratic and most people from India don't. If we are going to change our immigration policy lets do it fairly not based on race and party affiliation.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Matt

    America has been sold out. Our debt, our politicians, our jobs, and our borders have contributed to the piece of trash the USA is today. Yet, here we do nothing.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Burningfish

    Yeah sure let them stay so thy can be on welfare and food stamps.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Joey joe

    Everybody pays taxes legal or not!!

    January 26, 2013 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paul Lopez

      Sales tax is unavoidable (except by theft of which illegal aliens commit a disproportionately higher amount) but the fact is that the majority of them do not pay income tax.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • ESLteacha

        And is there proof that illegals steal from stores to avoid sales tax as you claim or are you conjecturing and stereotyping?

        January 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kenman

      That is a liberal lie! Those working off the books do not pay FEDERAL INCOME TAXES, SOCIAL SECURITY TAXES (though they will someday get them, so liberals can buy their votes). And, unless they honestly claim the 3-10 children in their households, they aren't paying their share of educational taxes. GET A CLUE!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Jeff

    you are welcome to go back to the country of origin and make a difference THERE.

    I think it is completely unacceptable to allow illegals to be in MY country. Yes, MY country.
    To think just because you have been here for so many years, it erases that fact you should NOT be here, you are wrong.
    Apply and wait in line like everyone else. If you do not follow the most basic rule of being here LEGALLY, I don't want you in MY country.

    Every COUNTRY on the planet should have at least one law that is held sacared. The right to determine who is on that land! On MY land you must be here legally to stay.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • justeME

      what have you done for it to be YOUR country,

      January 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kenman

        Even if he was only born here of legal parents, that makes it HIS country. But to break our laws to TAKE it as their country is an offense.

        January 26, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • ESLteacha

      Jeff, there are oer 350 million people in OUR country. You are not the president. And yes, I lived abroad for several years and was warmly accepted by the peoples and communities in the countries I lived and taught in. I wish our country were the same. Some people I met living overseas were shocked to find out I was American in fact as I was not boastful, but rather compassionate and kind- the way I like to think of people in our country. Lucky you weren't born in the slums of Calcutta. Or even traveled overseas, I'm guessing. It could change your view of these 'thieves'.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kenman

        So you went to these other countries ILLEGALLY? You worked off the books, paid no taxes and asked for social welfare to take care of the children that would one day make their countries America? What a nonsensical globalistic position. OUR country cannot take in the world, especially if they come here ILLEGALLY , AND if we care anything about the rule of laws.

        January 26, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • bannister

        ESL teacha – there are MANY compassionate Americans. In fact, we already let in more people than any other nation in the world! But there are LIMITS to how many people we can absorb and Americans have the right to set those limits.

        January 26, 2013 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Troy

    They are nothing but a detriment, and will always be looked at as the criminals they are.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
  54. glimgliree

    And yet somehow the crops got harvested before we had a flood of illegal immigrants. Have you no regard for American workers who've been replaced by illegal aliens or the impact that illegal immigration has on wages? Illegal aliens drive without licenses or insurance in unregistered vehicles and flee the scene when they have accidents. Who do you think pays for those damages? Illegals use emergency rooms for routine care, then skip out on the bill. Who pays for that? Resources that should have gone to the education of American children instead go to the children of illegal aliens. How is that fair? It is the poor and powerless who feel the negative impacts of illegal immigration the most–just so upper class people can have cheap labor.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Dave


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  56. gop usa

    Deport every single last one of them,no exceptions! The broke our laws,they snuck here in the middle of the night,we should yank them from their beds and throw them in cattle trucks and take them to the border. To pay for this we auction off their property they obtained here illegally. They are not the sweet little bean pickers they are portrayed by the media,they take middleclass jobs,bankrupt our schools and communitys,and turn our neighborhoods into Mexican Ghettos. We do not want them or need them here,we have enough problems to deal with let alone the illegal Mexicans. Its time we quit coddling these Mexican illegals and give them the only thing they deserve which is jail and deportation. The gop should not cave and do nothing but work on making laws like in Arizona for every state to drive all the illegals out of this Nation once and for all.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • ESLteacha

      I don't recall the article saying they are all Mexicans... I teach youth such as these from all over the world. Some of them work 10 hours a day and then come to school for 6 hours after sleeping only 4. They pay rent, taxes, and buy their own food. They pay their own tuition and have dreams for future careers.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kenman

        So, if I break into your home but agree to work keeping it clean, may I claim it as my own, may I bring the rest of my family in, will you provide for them when you can no longer provide for your own family? Can I get paid for my work and send it back to MY country to bring more relatives here ILLEGALLY; will you welcome them?

        January 26, 2013 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Devils Advocate 101

        Iwhen went to college my GI bill was not enough to cover the cost of my curriculum; i worked 2 jobs slept an average of 3 hrs/dy maintained a 3.7 average for 2.5 yrs straight while i watched immigrants come into school with full tuition,housing, and even new cars provided by our Government. They laughed at the fact nthat many of us rode bikes to school and work ate Ramen noodles to survive while we served the table they sat at in resturants we ourselves coun
        ldnt afford to eat in. Am I bitter? Yes. at the many bussinesses now run by those same indivcidudls that wash money,and hire illegals over Americans.

        January 26, 2013 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • m11worth

        But they have broken our laws!! And that education is STOLEN from US CITIZENS!

        January 26, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • maria

      Get your resources well ,is not only Mexicans here illegally is also South America,Cubans ...yes Cubans they came by boats illegally ,just because Carter administration create the law" wet feet dry feet ",still they are here illegally indeed! they ae form all over the world don't generalize only with Mexicans we have millions and millions fo illegals from all around the world! they use Mexican border th ones for south america use Canada border .....but I agree with you thy shold be deported ASAP! not let them to have another chance to comeback ,thy comeback after certain time ,the criminals to commit horrendous crimes .....".only n America "

      January 26, 2013 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Disco Joker

    Taxpayer dollars.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Disco Joker


    There's nothing like coming a country illegally, abusing our resources and then flaunting on the national stage to really NOT win people over.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Troy


    January 26, 2013 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • ESLteacha

      Well perhaps reincarnation is real and in your next life you'll wake up to find yourself born in the slums of another nation then. You never know. Karma.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
  60. ESLteacha

    Um being here illegally is no different than doing drugs or robbing a bank, Frank? I hope you don't represent many Americans. How did you enter America? Were you born here? How lucky for you. The only native Americans here are indeed Native Americans- the Indians. All of our ancestors were immigrants.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • 1976

      Weak argument. Immigrants of the past were not like the criminal illegal invaders of today. They made an attempt to assimilate and did not come into the USA to pillage this countries weak immigration laws and social benefits

      January 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kenman

        Exactly! And the country was developing then and then laws were made to keep our nation viable and sovereign!

        January 26, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • gonadasygo

        Except, they did come to pillage. Just resources and land instead of all that other stuff.

        And let's go ahead and say that you're talking about the immigrants of the late 1800/early 1900s. They still came here and pillaged the country's weak immigration laws and sent their kids to school and all that jazz. But, that's strong wording. They simply wanting a better life.

        Now, let's make that slow realization that the only difference between then and now are the laws.

        Now, you're right. The laws were made because there was a problem. Now, realize that that problem was racism and the purification of the United States and look at how freaking antiquated your freaking logic is. I'd use stronger language, but...

        January 26, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Xib

    The fault is not with the system, no matter how bad the system works. Your logic is backwards and has no moral imperative. The fault is with those that jump the line, their action has primacy when looking for fault.

    Your line of reasoning is regressive. Understanding the conditions under which choices are made does not purchase excuse for the choices. As an example but not a direct comparison, understanding ghetto life does not excuse living like a gangster, dealing drugs, killing people. Understanding the conditions that make emigrating to America from Mexico so appealing does not excuse or forgive Mexican's from breaking existing laws.

    This idea that everyone is complicit in hiring illegal immigrants is interesting but it's absurd within the context you presented. Consumers who purchase goods have absolutely no way of knowing if illegal immigrants were involved in producing the goods. What this means is that completely uniformed consumers have no choice and therefore no real skin in the game, instead they are simply held hostage to scofflaw works and businesses. There is no complicity, there are only immoral businesses and immoral workers. The blame is not with consumers at large, the blame is with illegal workers and hiring businesses.

    The idea that we should blame the minimum wage law is not to blame for the choices of illegal immigrants, illegal immigrants and scofflaw businesses are to blame for creating and maintaining the black mark you mentioned. The conditions under which immigration laws are broken should not be blamed for the choices of law breakers. What has moral imperative is not the economy and price of goods. What has primacy is behaving in a moral fashion. If Americans won't take jobs at minimum wage that illegal immigrants will take for less than minimum wage, so what? If that business can't thrive within the bounds of the law then the business needs to close or the business needs to change it's model or it needs to move to Mexico.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  62. kstu

    seal the border with troops,and then clean house.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • justeME

      that exactly was you did to there ancestor's CLEANHOUSE

      January 26, 2013 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kenman

        Ah, finally a bold supporter of the subtle invasion, where Americans should be forced to admit invaders that you think have every right to take back LAND that has been fruitfully used and developed so that they can turn IT TOO into their Third World ghetto.

        January 26, 2013 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Devils Advocate 101


      January 26, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
  63. reality check

    Contrary to the Bernstein lyrics; "Everything is NOT free in America." You illegal "residents" have an obligation to ante-up with the American taxpayer or leave.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Troy

      Didn't you know the west side story song "everything free in America" is the mexican national anthem?

      January 26, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • ESLteacha

        "free" as in "freedom"

        January 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  64. OnTheRoad

    People that rob banks, stores, individuals and sale drugs are only trying to provide a decent living for their families also! So, are we to give these people a pass also?????

    January 26, 2013 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Orid

      Hispanics do give those people a pass.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kenman

      Exactly, I need, or just want, something, I should be able to take it!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • peterloks

      because robbing banks and selling drugs is equivalent to crossing a border and working for min. wage.
      are you racist, uneducated or simply so dumb that you cant process thoughts logically?.

      January 26, 2013 at 8:43 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Stutzman


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  66. Sasquatch

    You are so right Joey joe. Following this line of truth that you've laid out- now that illegals have contributed to turning the United States into a third world country, I may very well have to illegally migrate to Canada in order to locate greener pastures.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Bill

    Ruining the United States. What they need to do is fight to make Mexico the way they want it to be, like our ancenstors did.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • emtz

      if we want to make Mexico the way we want to, we would have a civil war, and nobody would want that, the US is going to be affected a lot!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Devils Advocate 101

        we'll ngladly deal with the spillover, we will enjoy the implementation of our 2nd Amement rights at the border.

        January 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • maria

      Why you guys refer to Mexicans as the only illegals here? is Cubans,Colombians,,HondurasSsanto Domingo,Jamaica,Haiti,Costa rica,Argentina you named, is from all aorund the world .is least the Mexicans clean house,wash dishes in restaurants,keep the beautiful lawns pristine,wash cars ,babysit kids,ask any Cuban if they do the same? not! they get FREE college educatoin payed by the Governemet and everything else .......they use and abuse the system big time!

      January 26, 2013 at 9:23 pm | Report abuse |
  68. tarura

    Yet another liberal push for immigration "reform" to reward law breaking by so may.

    Try to start enforcing the existing laws first, and then have everybody apply for an entry legally,
    from the country of their origin that is.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gab

      Then who will help the liberals win election? are you out of your mind?

      January 26, 2013 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • tarura

        Illegals Lame Stream Media and a rampant voting fraud

        January 26, 2013 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • patilla10

        Liberals? Democrats? NO. Not just them....it's the wealthy GOP politicians who hire them as nannies, housekeepers, gardeners and such. It's the wealthy corporate structure hiring them as reduced wages and benefits to increase the bottom line of their CEOs because they (the illegals) can't speak up against them unless they've been provided with false SSNs.

        January 26, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • peterloks

        illegals cant vote. FYI

        January 26, 2013 at 8:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • bcl3647611@yahoo.com

      You'd like to take a wag at how the Sanchez sisters kep winning their elections in Orange County, California, a historically conservative community but located within 50 miles of Mexico?
      Yup, you got it.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • m11worth

      They'd have to return to their country before they are found out, since once ID'd as ILLEGAL, and deported, they are forbidden to re-enter....EVER!!! So much for enforcement!

      January 26, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Kregg

    This is so cool, because being they dont have to have documentation, or pay taxes, therefore as a legal citizen of the US I dont either then 🙂

    Isnt that how it works?

    January 26, 2013 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Tom

    "Andiola tapped into the DREAMer network to aid in the return of her mother and brother. But her activism also got her a job with newly elected Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Arizona."

    Isn't it illegal to hire illegal aliens? Another example of Democrats who think they are above the law and Constitution of this land, including the established methods for changing the law or Constitution. I am a white male TAXPAYING AMERICAN CITIZEN (only that last part matters). I am what most would consider Conservative. I happen to feel that we do need to provide a path to citizenship for so many of those in this situation who are productive members of our society. Although, I wholeheartedly disagree with any movement to wave a magic wand, ignoring established laws, and giving free handouts that legal taxpaying citizens must provide for. I believe the Dream Act has merit in many ways, but there should be zero financial handouts. Protect our border first, then let's find a way to welcome those already here to become taxpaying citizens. ANYONE who is a non-citizen and convicted of a felony needs to serve their full term in prison, and then be kicked out of the country. ANYONE who is a non-citizen and convicted of a misdemeanor should be deported. Anyone willing to behave like a law-abiding taxpaying citizen should be provided a lawful path to citizenship.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • jfreb

      Your suggestions may be fine but our government has not been very good at closing up the loop holes and I have no reason to think that they are going to get better. So, with each benefit given to those who are here illegally it is more encouragement for others to continue the illegal migration. They know that once they cross the border their children have free K-12 education, medical (through various clinics and emergency departments), etc. Once, I see that the tide can be stopped, then I'd be more willing to consider what to do with those with illegal status.

      January 29, 2013 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
  71. sandiegowatch

    America = Home

    Do you let an intruder break inside your home, live there, force you and your children to share resources you pay for?


    DEPORT THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    January 26, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ronda


      January 26, 2013 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gab

      Not happening- they and their folks just elected the president 🙂

      January 26, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • patilla10

        Good....because Obama has deported more of them than any other President! 1.4M as of last Aug. Write to him and let him know that he should triple this amount until this country is cleared of the invaders.

        January 26, 2013 at 3:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Devils Advocate 101

      Not just deport them, make it impossible for them to phyically return and Very unattractive for others to attempt to test our resolve

      January 26, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • peterloks

      i would! if they clean my home, tend my garden, cook my food, care for my children and did it at crappy wages. unless someone screwed our income then i will sure as well blame it on them and scapegoat them. that the american way.

      January 26, 2013 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
  72. ScrewDreamers

    I have no country. I was born in the United States but I do not call myself an American because the word has no meaning. The French have France. The Belgian have Belgium. But the United States belongs to the world.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Consequence

      America does not belong to them, but too many of our politicians have given it to them.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Devils Advocate 101

        though our political influence may b limited once elected officials are in office it is ultimately our responsibility to educate ouselves and others on those politicians records prior to and during their terms. I challenge people to dig deep into the inner workings of pacs and most importantlly the many grass roots groups that go door to door raising money proportedly to fight for some issue important to you or to support some politician who says they r working for U. Surprise !!! I know first hand,, at least 50% of that donation you give goes to that person @ your door, the rest goes to "Administration cost" meaning what ever personal political issue taht group is supporting; Gay rights, immigration reform.etc.etc.save the whales, the rest goes to pay for those huge beautiful homes that the organizing heads live in, oh yea and the great parties "Conferences"thrown several times a year. One of the bigggest scams on America is the abuse of our gulability and our own appathy. WE, US, Me, U, need to tighten up we're making it too easy .

        January 26, 2013 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Saboth

    I'm about as liberal as they come, but these guys are not "undocumented". They are illegal immigrants. Criminals. There's no racist bias in my label, I am pointing out facts. These are people that feel the laws of the US do not apply to them, because they have something to gain. Typically, when people break into your house, they feel the laws do not apply to them because they have something to gain. I do not call them "Uninvited Visitors", I call them burglars. There are millions of people applying for citizenship to our country the legal way, and these people make a mockery of our system.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
  74. B

    Bravo Rob! It really makes me sick this society hypocrisy. There is not ONE US citizen who does not know that kitchens are full of illegal aliens, or that illegal aliens are this country farm workers, etc, etc. So don’t tell me now WOW! We have 11,000,000 of illegal aliens they must go! They broke the law! Please, we have known this FOR YEARS! We needed them, we used them and our economy needed them. Deal with it!

    January 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Xib

      We didn't need illegal immigrants, that is absurd. Your moral compass is broken. You should be demanding that if a business can't make it without breaking the law then the business should close...period. Don't you demand the same thing from bankers, Wall Street, and the government?

      January 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Concerned

    Enter the U.S. LEGALLY!!! Because there are many OTHERS who are ALSO coming in who have only one thing on their minds....to ROB and KILL those already here legally, trying to live their own dreams.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ronda

      Totally agree!!!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
  76. just an observer

    Your opinion is noted but wrong. They don't pay taxes because they don't have to. If one wants to migrate to the US the should pay double SS and Medicare taxes for the first seven years in the country and until they become citizens. We don't need millions more putting nothing into the system and expecting something in a few years when they can't work anymore.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  77. abdulla oblogoggta

    You sure don't speakee good engrish, jose

    January 26, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Frank A

    Why are these people not rounded up and sent back to where they came from? In the country illegally is a CRIME. No different than robbing a convenient store or snorting coke up your nose. This is inconceivable.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • ESLteacha

      Well round up the majority of the country then. The only native Americans are the Indians. All of our ancestors were immigrants. That's what sets our country apart from so many others.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • legalTxn

      Because both the Republicans and the Democrats want to benefit.....

      The legal american citizens (all races) are either delusional or haven't revolted all this time.... In the meantime, the illegals come here and drop babies... Media like TV and internet have helped spread the word.... Well those 'anchors' have grown and are about to change the entire dynamic of this nation... TX will go blue and soon, you will have only one party – the Democratic party

      The Republicans have realized their folly but now it is too late.... What both the Republicans and Democrats don't realize is that once the country goes to dogs, the hardworking american will find another country like Canada to call their home.....

      January 26, 2013 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Ragin Cajun

    With the balance of immigration now heading towards a DECREASE in migrants in the US, why are we wasting time on this issue? Someone's been here, paying taxes here, producing here, then give 'em a green card if they're not dangerous and call it a day. Let's solve something that's a problem.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • RENEE'

      ... paying taxes! are you serious? most of the money made in USA by illegals is sent back to Mexico.

      January 26, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • m11worth

        Billions every year are sent out of the US!! You can go to any supermarket courtesy booth, and they are wiring money out of the country!! They don't spend here, and they pay taxes through the theft of a citizen's identity!!

        January 27, 2013 at 12:55 am | Report abuse |
  80. Xib

    The issue has nothing to do with the qualities or characteristics of the Mexicans in your neighborhood. The issue has nothing to do with race. The issue has everything to do with following the law of our land. Anyone that sneaks into the country is breaking the law regardless of their ethnicity or nation of origin. Most everyone that emigrates to America is looking for a better life, Mexicans don't get a pass on our laws just because they're closer than most. Giving them that pass is irrational and unfair.

    If you find our current immigration need fixing then work to fix them. In the present you should respect the laws as they exist and expect Mexicans and all other immigrants to respect our laws.

    These Dreamers aren't special, they've been pandered to by the Executive branch for purely political reasons. Obama cheaply circumvented our immigration laws during election season and he did so for one simple reason, votes.

    Why wouldn't you demand that all immigrants, regardless of ethnicity ir national origin, respect our immigration laws as they are currently written?

    January 26, 2013 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  81. glimgliree

    Democrats expect to build a power base in the growing Hispanic population. Republicans want cheap labor. Both are terrified they'll be called racist. Neither cares about American taxpayers and workers.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobby brown

      glimgliree – you hit the nail on the head, republican or democrat, all politicians are in it for themselves and they could care less about America.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Dean

    We could afford these things before illegal aliens and could afford it after illegal aliens.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • 510

      Im sure Zack or Dylan or Steven will gladly break his bacj for that

      January 26, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |

    What about the "DREAMers" from Central America that enter Mexico in order to TRY to reach their dreams only to be captured, abused, raped, human trafficked, killed, mass murder singled out, and DEPORTED before EVER reaching the USA? In Mexico.

    Mexicans are the biggest hypocrites, I single them out because they are the majority Latino in the USA and have a system of discrimination thats imbedded deeply in our mixed Latino communities.

    But Mexican CNN hired writers never write about that, and the liberal white people that hire them are either completely clueless OR know about it, but turn the other cheek for some reason. I don't know.

    But now YOU do.

    I have many stories, but Mexicans might start attacking the non-Mexican Latino for sharing them with you all.

    January 26, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • m11worth

      You're right on the mark there! They carrying on about "oh my religion, my religion!" Then breed indiscriminately with multiple partners, who they never marry!! What happened to "their religion's" no sex outside of marriage??? They are such phonies....no contraceptives, nor abortion, but uncontrolled sex outside of marriage! Then they bring all these kids here to soak our system.

      January 27, 2013 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
  84. Sanych


    They are more like SCREAMERS – "we got free education, now give us more"!

    January 26, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hooligan

      History is not one of your strong suits is it?

      May I suggest you read about the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo? You'll learn about how this area came to be American, who took it from who (was not us), who BOUGHT it from who (this we DID do) and how before it became apart of the United States... this area was barren and not desired.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
  85. sigh

    Any school (K-12 or college) in the US should be stripped of all federal funding if caught admitting an undocumented student.
    Tired of stories like this about people trying to cut in line. I have a lot of LEGAL immigrant friends trying to move to this country permanently who did everything right and followed the system perfectly, but are not allowed to stay in the country because of floods of these cheaters. You do not get priority because you showed up out of nowhere and refused to leave. Get out and follow the rules.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Hooligan

    This is not our problem. It sounds crass, but we really do not owe them anything in this aspect. I truly feel bad their parents made bad choices and they are now affecting their children... I really am, but I am not willing (and neither are many others) to ratify laws and create new ones so that people who came here illegally can benefit from the same legal system. Illegal immigrants do not take presidence over legal citizens. I am not Conservative, I am not religious I am not a person who thinks these are bad people and I understand they are just trying to carve out a better life.... but not at the expense of everyone else.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Barry

    Allowing illegal immigrant to enter and remain in the United States is a slap in the face to all law abiding people from other nations who play by the rules.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Dean

    How can illegal alien who isn't supposed to be here and has no legal rights have any clout? Political correctness has destroyed any idea of common sense in this country.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
  89. samnet45

    When the Mayflower hit the shores, it was not illegal to just walk off the boat and populate the land. Now it is. If people are here illegally they need to be sent back where they came from. For one thing the prison system would have to lay off employees do to a drastic decrease in prison population.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  90. bbirdsr71

    We need a round up day and get reid of these parasites leaching off the US taxpayers!

    January 26, 2013 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
  91. randy

    where is the government during all of this? ICE should be there when they hold rallies, load them all up on a bus and take them back where the came from. letting them protest and go to school is wrong is just more money we have to pay in taxes. enough is enough

    January 26, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
  92. david

    2 or 3 past presidents deported all the illegals and we got our jobs back and healed again. " Operation wetback" is what it was called. Today, our failed president with his dismal record wanted the illegal democrat vote and was re-elected. He will probably legalize all 13 million to take american down now.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Troy

      And they come right back because he refuses to protect the border. Are you brain damaged or just dumb?

      January 26, 2013 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Olga Frias

    Funny how we want to uphold what the forefathers did or said when it suits us. What happen to:
    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
    A golden door, that unless you are a Native American, we or our ancestors came through. But now we want to lock those doors for those coming behind us.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dean

      Olga – this still holds true if they want to enter this country legally according to our laws.

      January 26, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sasquatch

      Olga: We're all stocked up on wretched refuse. What the U.S. needs is smart people who can contribute.

      January 26, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Butler

      What history books have you been reading? America has always been this way since it was founded

      January 26, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hooligan

      Olga, this is the most abused are misused quote, especially when the "poor and tired" don't truly care about this country. They want the perks and none of the responsibility. Also, the influx of Mexicans due to the mere imaginary line that is the boarder in contrast to an actual OCEAN in which every other immigrant had to cross to get here greatly changes the Ratio in which America was able to take in the "poor and sick" and also changes the mentality of the people who come here. Mexico is not far away, it's a hop skip and a jump... they can go back any time if they really wanted to and many of them do. It's not like the Immigrants who came here from Russia or Ireland or Poland. When they got here... they had to stay here. And because of that the choice to come here was not just a financial one, it was a life changing and personality altering event.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Barry

      The United States never wrote a blank check to the rest of the world. Ever since Ellis Island was erected, the United States imposed quotas on the number of immigrants allowed to enter from each of the world's nations in order to be fair to everyone. The illegals crossing the border into the United States jumped in front of other people who have been waiting longer.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Troy

      Except now its " give me an ebt card, free healthcare, free education, housing food and I will repay you by breaking every law,of the country, spit on your flag, and turn your country into the toilet I left".

      January 26, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • m11worth

      Only those who don't respect our laws!! The laws were put in place, and are to be obeyed....we welcome those who come here the way they are supposed to come.

      January 27, 2013 at 1:02 am | Report abuse |
  94. KAO

    Further more...Kyrsten Sinema D-Arizona should be let go!! She hired an illegal because she supposedly could not find a qualified US Citizen?? What a crock of BS!! I tried emailing her but was told since I do not live in her district she would not answer my concerns....

    January 26, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  95. elle

    You shoukd read assembly bill 540. California has been given them a pass for years. It's not right.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
  96. BostonSteve

    Illegal Immigrants should come to the state of Massachusetts. Here we give you drivers licenses, food stamps, subsidized housing, heat assistance, free high speed internet, in-state tuition, and more. And for those convicted felons looking to have a sex change operation, the Massachusetts taxpayers will pay for that too. Come on up, or down.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  97. mdkraut

    illeegals need to be deported they is braking the law. all of us taxes has to pay them illeegals food and evrey thing else.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • bbirdsr71

      We need a round up day and get reid of these parasites leaching off the US taxpayers!

      January 26, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Giorgio

    After serving in the military for 28 years, I no longer feel that America is my country. Let them have it.....as long as I get my pension, etc....America can go to hell....and take the people who allowed this to happen with them...

    January 26, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sasquatch

      Someone please throw me a life-raft! I need to get off this sinking ship!

      January 26, 2013 at 1:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • legalTxn

      I, unfortunately, fee the same way.... Both the Republicans and Democrats are hurting the middle class American (all races and backgrounds)

      It will be interesting to see what kind of a country Obama's and Bush's elk will rule... Then again, they don't care about the country – they only want power....

      January 26, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • patilla10

      You're part of the problem – an apathetic American who is comfortable in your way of life and could give a hoot about the rest of us. Move YOUR lazy hand, take up a pen and start writing to the President and your representatives who allow this before the stock market crashes and you have no more pension!

      January 26, 2013 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
  99. steve

    it's the law stupid!
    now what part of that don't you understand?

    January 26, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  100. Terrance

    Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.

    January 26, 2013 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • abdulla oblogoggta

      this is either a quote from a lame movie, or an affirmation from you to see if you can quit your day job yet. Not yet, sorry.

      January 26, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Terrance

        It's the Chewbacca defense, rookie. Take a day off.

        January 26, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Report abuse |
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