More than Mexican: Study highlights diversity of Latinos
By Michael Martinez and Mariano Castillo, CNN
Los Angeles (CNN) - Jonathan Larios hears it all the time: Someone walks into his Honduran restaurant and they think it's a Mexican place.
"Oh, I hate that. That bothers me a lot," said Larios, 21, general manager of two Los Angeles-area restaurants called Honduras Kitchen. "They always ask, 'How's the Mexican food?' It gets frustrating over time.
"It's like the most race that people always see is black, Mexican and American. They don't see anything else," said Larios, whose mother is Honduran and father Salvadoran.
His first-hand experience shows that some Americans confuse all Hispanics as being Mexicans. While it's true that Mexicans make up the largest segment of the Hispanic population in the United States, a new Brown University study that shows Latinos are hardly a monolithic group.
The demographic has wide differences in nationalities that are becoming more salient, the study said.
"When studies are done of Hispanics, the results mostly reflect the experience of Mexicans, who are more than 60% of the total," the study says. "But observers would be mistaken if they thought they knew Hispanics in the U.S. by looking only at Mexicans."
The large percentage of U.S. Hispanics of Mexican descent, an overwhelming majority, inadvertently hides distinct trends among Hispanics with origins in other countries, according to the report released Wednesday.
The differences extend to cuisine, too, Larios added.
His parents own both restaurants, in Long Beach and Huntington Park, the latter being in business for 20 years, making it the oldest Honduran eatery in the state, he said.
"I tell them our food is very different," he said of customers who confuse Honduran food with Mexican dishes. "Most of our food doesn't have anything hot and spicy. Our food will never be spicy."
Hondurans are proud of their heritage and often emblazon the flag on their soccer jersey, whether they're playing in a neighborhood league or cheering for the national team, he said.
Many non-Mexican groups are growing at a faster rate, and doing better economically, the study found. In another telling figure, Hispanics other than Mexican are much less segregated than often assumed.
While the number of Hispanics who identify as Mexican has increased 137% between 1990 and 2010, those with other origins have grown at a much faster rate. During that 20-year span, it is estimated that the Honduran population in the U.S. increased by 383%, Guatemalans by 289% and Peruvians by 204%.
"Mexicans are not losing their weight, but some groups who were small and not on the radar now number in the millions," said John Logan, one of the report's authors. "South Americans are now everywhere, and if you add them up, they are a huge number."
The three largest groups of Hispanics - Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Cubans - make up 62%, 9%, and 4%, respectively, according to Census data. Central Americans make up 8% of the Hispanic population, and South Americans 5%.
In 1990, only three Hispanic largest groups had more than a million residents in the United States. By 2010, Dominicans, Guatemalans and Salvadorans had joined that club.
One of the findings seemed to show that the national perception of the Hispanic population is closely tied in with the Mexican community. There is the persistent idea, for example, that Hispanics in the United States are insular and segregated from other non-Hispanic communities.
"The very stable trend of high segregation is one attributed to Hispanics, but it turns out it is mainly a characteristic of Mexicans," Logan said.
According to a measure known as the Index of Dissimilarity, every Hispanic group except Mexicans has become substantially less segregated since 1990.
Half of all South Americans used to be located in Los Angeles, New York and Miami, but by 2010, only 34% lived in these cities, the study says.
Other generalizations persist.
"There may be a general assumption that Hispanics are immigrants, which was never true for Puerto Ricans," Logan said. "There may be a generalized assumption about relatively low education and skill levels, which does not fit average Cubans and South Americans, and increasingly not Puerto Ricans."
The data indicates that below the surface, there is a great deal more change within the Hispanic population than commonly thought, Logan said.
These differences could be important to advertisers who target Hispanics, or politicians who seek their votes.
"I suspect that on the whole, their view of the Hispanic community is that of it as one community (the Mexican community) and that's probably not a strategy that will be really helpful," Logan said.
Logan conducted a similar study in 2000, and his most recent research was a continuation of that to see if the differences he spotted 13 years ago remained. The patterns and trends have become even clearer in the past decade, he said.
The report also took a look at certain social and economic characteristics of the different groups that showed various degrees of economic success. One measure examined were the median wages of each group.
While the median annual wage for Mexicans in the United States was $20,200, wages were much higher for Argentines and Venezuelans, both with median wages of $30,300.
This finding wasn't surprising, as social scientists have long noted that those with roots in Cuba and South America tend to have different economic backgrounds.
But one group that is sometimes assumed to be insular and employed in lower wage jobs, Puerto Ricans, are actually doing quite well, the study found. Puerto Ricans have increasingly integrated with the rest of the population and have a median wage of nearly $30,000.
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Most likely you aren't indigineous – probably a mix of Spanish and French with a bit of indian mixed in. So...you should be proud of who and what you are, but don't invent a heritige you don't have. Further, in a later post you refer to yourself as a Dr. Right...if you want to outnumber the anglos – fine. You and your ilk are making babies left and right, but they will only serve you as serfs as they do in your home country. I feel sad for you. Your self shame is so evident.
I'm very proud of my heritage. My great grandparents were Italian, German, and Spanish. I'm Latino because I was born in Latin America, so I'm "Latinamericano" which in the US has been shorten to Latino. Latino is not an ethnicity or race. It is just a place of origin. Latinos can be white, black, brown and Asian.
Honduras is in Central America, not
South America.
And Puerto Rico is Caribbean.
We're all human. Race is only skin-deep. What we make of it from there is on us and our ignorant/silly ways.
Correction, we're all mammals. Are you being a specist? Are you trying to say we're somehow distinguished from or superior to horses, lions, chimps and giraffes? Get over yourself. We're ALL mammals.
why do ignorant people call Hawaiians Ethiopian?
I guess for the same reasons they cry BENGHAZI BENGHAZI while doing absolutely nothing about getting 50,000+ injured bush veterans quick and proper healthcare along with PTSD needs.
Bush veterans? I thought the name of the guy in the ghetto house was Obama. But I think I get it... it's Bush's fault!!!!
They think that if you keep repeating something over and over again it will eventually be true. Hence why you see the same idiots saying things like "TGOP" and "Rethuglicans", et al. The same people who act so tolerant but constantly talk amongst themselves about how most Americans are uneducated, ignorant, racists. The hypocrisy is mindblowing, criticizing everyone they disagree with by calling them racists/whatever while the whole time constantly proclaiming how they are superior in every way to their fellow countrymen. Irony much? I'm not a Republican (the use of "libtard" is equally dumb), for the record, proud Libertarian here.
For a physician, you have not been paying close attention to your adversary. Now that they have the DNA molecule deciphered, they can genetically engineer a virulent strain of plague that is gene specific. So, with acceptable losses calculated, they can devastate specific populations that carry a specific gene. And that tech is alive and well. They will not be going away quietly into the night anytime soon. They've been planning for quite some time.
The name Hispanic comes from Hispania which was the name of the Iberian peninsula during the Roman times, so it includes Spain and Portugal, and that is why Brazil is in Latin America. I am Brazilian from NY and I consider myself Hispanic, and one of my last name is Sousa which is one of the most common names in Brasil, a name that in Spanish is Sosa. Also my toots are native amazonian indian, asian, black and white
Hispanic, as used in the US, comes from "America Hispana" which is how the Spaniards called their colonies in the Americas.
All this has to do with having too much pride.Stop worrying and go get an education.
well said.
If you're from mexico, then you're mexican, if you're from Honduras, you're Honduran. No one who come from a country in South East Asia will call themselves South East Asian. If you ask someone from Germany, they'll tell you they're German, not European.
grats on reading the article and getting the point of it......
Hi I like to just comment on random stuff that some articles topic told me about
Actually, Orientals insist on calling themselves, and being called, "Asian". Not Chinese, or Korean, or Thai, or Vietnamese. And not Oriental. But Asian. They don't realize that Asia covers FAR more than the yellow race.
As a white guy I've experienced racism from mexicans here in south texas.
Is it annoying? Yeah it is.
Am I ever gonna stop it from happening? Probably not.
I can deal with it. Doesn't really stop me from being successful.
Oh yeah, and I'm not going to learn Spanish.
This is America, we speak English.
FYI we speak the Queens English.
and we are done with the white mans forced religion
I find it so funny when people say "this is America, we speak English" when Latin America is also America and all people from across the Americas are Americans just like french, Germans or British are Europeans. In fact the name America came from the Italian Americgo Vepusi who just traveled around South America and Central America when he was working for the Spaniards
Actually in America we should be speaking the Native American language if you want to be technical about it. lol
AND...
All asians are Chinese unless of course they are Vietnamese....
All dudes with Beards are Arab.
These are the rules of the south. ignorance > fact
You should perhaps visit the south (Texas) and disabuse yourself of the silly notions you've somehow filled your pointed little head.
If this article intends to get folks' hackles up, then it's doing a fine job. If someone actually wanted to do something profitable, why not give me information I can use? Crazy idea, I know, but why not just enlighten me as to the definition of a 'Hispanic'? I'll admit, I don't know how to properly define this group of people, but by reading the article, not only does the author not aid my in the ignorance I'm accused of, they don't demonstrate that they know any better themselves.
Except your Chinese wife. 🙂
Spain is a European country. The "Indians" are descended from ancient Siberians. Humans did not evolve in the Americas. We are ALL descended from immigrants. It really doesn't mean anything . Get over yourself.
Wrong! NOBODY has proved that Humans immigrated to our lands. Our ancestors have been here for million of years!
Who cares? We are all human beings. Period. "I'm not American, I'm Canadian!" "I'm not Thai, I'm Singaporean." None of this makes a difference. You're home country is nothing more than a point of interest. Once we can put an end to multiculturalism, put an end to either favoring or being prejudiced against any race or nationality, this world will be able to put a huge mountain of triviality aside and focus our efforts on actual issues that affect us all as a whole, not as a them or us.
Well said Mike! Love it!
Most Hispanics I know call themselves Spanish even though they aren't of Spanish descent. Maybe Hispanics should know what they are before complaining that whites are misinformed.
I am hispanic and don't know of any hispanics that calls themselves spanish. Spaniards are spanish, period. When we are refered to as "spanish" it's usually from an anglo southerner.
But you speak Spanish. Why didn't you people come up with your own language?
Abril you're wise to ignore foolish reply by Larry.
Why do we speak English in the US? I guess we were not smart enough to come up with our own language. LOL.
Well if you notice not all Hispanics are of Native decent. Maybe you don't like it because you haven't seen anything by a mirror. But there are European Hispanics. Just look at the Vatican at the moment, and you'll see. No all them white boys are in Texas!
Come again? Senseless
There are differences between Mexicans and Hondurans and Venezuelans etc as there are between English and German and Hungarian and Russian.
Actually...American Indians are Asian Indians. They are not indigenous to the Americas. The Europeans merely came over to curtail the Indians version of Manifest Destiny. You can't own, what you can't hold. Besides...the original American Indians had no sense of land ownership...so how can you say the land was stolen from them?
LOL! The "Bering Strait" is a THEORY that never graduated beyond being a THEORY = NO FACT! That theory is racist and has the message of denying the right to the land to our ancestors. NO ASIAN crossed the "Land Bridge" to populate our lands. That is just an invention created by racist Anthropologists who just called it a THEORY!
WHAT ADUAN INDIANS?! Natives didn't exist?! Lmfao you need to spend some educational quality time on a reservation with no running water & subpar educational facilities & when you think someone dropped your ass off in a 3rd world company realize that YOU ARE IN AMERICA on a NON EXISTENT NATIVE AMERICAN RESERVATION! What asinine stuff are they teaching & school & universities! ? Next you'll be teaching the holocaust didn't really happen!! Seek out knowledge for yourself PLEASE!!!
It's thought provoking articles like this that bring people a little closer. Closer to what I'm not sure.
Your example is invalid! It would be like calling you French just because I know more French people. Hispanic is equivalent to White as they are both very broad terms with a large variety of cultures and ethnicity with in them.
The best post I've seen this month.
Astute observation. And this article is exceeding its pot stirring expectations. Can you feel the love tonight? Kinda makes you feel warm and fuzzy.
It's called conquering and you have been conquered – just accept it. it's been going on since man has walked the earth.
also the strongest empires have fallen. Keep that in mind too.
You mean European-Americans. That is because Europe is so small that people look more or less the same from country to country, especially those countries bordering the Mediterranean sea. If you don't hear them speak, it's hard to tell where they are from.
Your kidding me I thought those countries on the Map South of America were just for decoration.
True hispanics are from Spain and Portugal, most of the south/north american "hispanics" are the result of hispanics breeding with the natives, or the natives themselves learning the culture and language of the "hispanics". Hows that for FACTS.
meant that as a reply to someone else.
I get so infuriated when people mistake me for a Paraguayan American when clearly I am a Uruguayan American!
Paraguay and Uruguay are extremely different countries. If you were really from either, you would know that.
Sure you'd expect the people from there to know that, but would you expect all people to know that?
LOL! I have a feeling you were being facetious, at least I hope so because I found your comment really funny.
LOL – that's good!
so what if i see a hispanic and think he's Mexican (i don't but what ever)?? hispanics (and many blacks for that matter) see my white skin and immediately think i'm a racist republican.....good thing my white skin is thick enough to where i could care less....and there will be NO stories about my plight
Stupid. If you walk into a restaurant and it's name is "Das wiener hut" and you say, "Hey hows the german food here?" And the staff gets mad because its not German, it's a Czech restaurant! Just another thing that people make up reasons to get disgruntled over.
How about all these illegals go home. My family came here legally and worked for what we have now these people are here because our government is worthless.
Dg you know that's not going to happen right.so instead of complaining about something neither you or I can control. An start working jobs that these illegals are willing to do. It's the only way it's going to work. I bet you when people lost jobs in 2008 not one illegal got fired. Because though they work very hard for not very much. Those jobs technically don't exist.
If everyone was to leave this country and go back to where your parents came from, there would be only American Natives (Indians). left behind. They were here before your forefathers touched this land.Based on that, stop crying like a baby.Better still, if you don't like it, go back to your own country.
The article made no mention of the legality of the subjects presence. I presume the hours you have spent listening to FOX "news" led your small, biased mind to the assumption that if the person is hispanic, he/she must be here illegally. Using the same reasoning, you must be a white, fat republican.
garbear, some people just assume that everyone of a certain race is a law-breaker. But they're not racist. Not at all.
Excuse me? Do not call Portuguese people Hispanics. They are not Hispanics and they do not speak Spanish – they speak Portuguese. Spanish people from Spain are also not Hispanics. They are white like everyone else in Europe. If I showed you a Portuguese, Italian, Spanish , French and Greek person side by side, I bet you couldn't tell the difference. Do not insult Europeans by calling them Hispanic.
If you call someone spanish they are form spain. Hispanics can be mostly anywhere. And i dont think of Brazilians or Portuguese as hispanic .
Sorry, but Europe is superior and a lot more civilized. It is economically superior, has much higher levels of education and literacy and a lot less crime. It's not racist – it's a fact!
Outch – he got you there. Culturally and economically, Europe is superior to any South American nation.
A cheetah walks into a leopard's restaurant and asks, "What kind of lion food do you serve? " All cheetah's are ignorant. How can this cheetah think that the leopard's is a lion! Sheez . . Wait, cheetah, leopard's, and lion: who cares? They are all endangered species and they are all illegal(to own)!
And by the way, Texas better be ready for a Governor soon named Ricardo Perez. LOL!
Just to add a small correction, Hispanic also refers to those from Puerto Rico and Cuba because of the Spanish colonization of these societies. The Islands were primarily tribal and dark skinned. My family alone has a mixture of skin colors from very white to dark skinned. This is due to the Taino roots and the Spanish roots.
I'll bet the vast majority of the Americans that lump Hispanics as Mexicans are Republican....they are the party of ignorance.
This is coming from a Libertarian, being a Democrat Jim is nothing to be proud of.
Gracias for this article! I'm Hispanic, and people are always shocked to hear that. I'm tall and fair with dark hair and dark eyes. I look like I'm from Spain (I did live there, and my father's family is from there). People are amazed to hear me speak Spanish. "Wow–you don't look Mexican!" Well, I'm NOT! My ex-husband was and I love many Mexicans including my kids–but I'm Hispanic! Guess what–all Hispanics are not alike. 🙂
My experience with Spaniards is that they take huge offense to being called Hispanic.
Sorry, but Hispanic is not a race. That's like Iranians calling themselves Persians and claiming they are a race, which I've been told several times by very serious Iranians..yeah...and I'm a Visigoth.
I have worked with mexican's and one brought up a good point. If there is a way with Mexico you will not win. We are already here. Who do you think we will side with, the country we grew up in, where our families live......or the one that takes advantage of us?
meant to say war...not way
Well, truth be told, they were already here once before. I could be forgetting my history but I don't think they every left, even if the national boundaries did.
If america takes advantage of you why the F are you there? Proof right there that they don't want to be americans, they just want to leech.
No way!
The US takes advantage of you? Mexicans come here illegally for work and taxpayer funds for things like school and medical care. Who the heck is taking advantage of who? Maybe Mexicans should not illegally enter a country they are not citizens of. Maybe they should remain in Mexico and ask the Mexican government why it isn't doing a good job for Mexican citizens.
uh please tell your friend, there was a war with Mexico and we beat the literal crap out of Mexico, marched down their throat in DF, bombarded their coastal cities and made their citizens in Texas through California, American citizens. Most of Mexico wishes we had conquered the rest of the country
Awaiting moderation for that? Yeah, CNN hates freedom of speech unless you tow their party line. Utterly pathetic censorship...
I'll take this female that they have on the page on a date. She is beautiful
20 countries in Latin America and the only pictures they have are of 3 Cubans, 1 Puerto Rican and a Dominican? This article was awful. You can tell by the idiot that uses "American" as an ethnicity. CNN if you're going try and understand us Latinos try putting some effort into your work. Garbage!
Boy, are they wrong! They got it all twisted around: All _Mexicans_ are American! XD
Anglos have the market on American, sorry. No one not born in the 50 states can be American EXCEPT people from the states, and if you are anything except Anglo, you get an alternate (hyphenated) version of it.
Makes no sense, with the name of the mass of land, I know, but trust me, that's the rule.
You might live in JUPITER. LATINOS will takeover the USA while Anglos will fade away...it is a demographic FACT that nobody can stop. I'm not Anglo but I live better than so many of them because I'm a Physician. Sorry...
As a child, I thought all non-Jews were Catholic.
Not sure what you are smoking, al, but I don't want any. I thought the piece was interesting and I learned something from it. Apparently you cherry-picked the sentences that fit your prejudices and that was enough for you. Let me guess – you listen to Rush.
Reading through these comments, it becomes painfully obvious that Reince's $10 million "outreach" effort is going to be a complete failure. The hate and anger that define the GOP base will ultimately sabotage whatever gains the establishment makes.
I think you're cutting and pasting into the wrong blog.
I think the boy is smokin a little too much of his own name
Nice! Everyone on these boards assumes my name refers to the girth of my waist, not of my blunts.
Look at the names of the people who wrote this piece of racist bigotry. They obviously have a complex of inferiority.
Why don't everyone just get along! We all have the same color blood! Case closed!!
Hsipanic, Bambino, Mexican all the same...
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Sounds like a Mexican Stand Off To Me!
Perhaps we should simplify it all . . . . and consider each other "World Citizens" . . . . but unfortunately, the American mindset is far to narrow for that . . .
Examine other countries approaches, e.g. Even in Europe there are guard towers where they shoot you if you try to cross, come back a little more educated and then post please. What a buffoon!
most of Europe doesn't have border control.. you can cross from England to France and on to Germany or Holland.. no borders.. get some better information..
You know who called himself a "citizen of the world"? Ronald Reagan.
Reagan, therefore, must have been an ignorant and bigoted hippe.
Uh...dude...if, like, ok...ok...like if you call them, like, WORLD citizens then, ok, like, they might be offended...because they miss their home...or casa...so, like, uh...dude...uh...uh...I forgot what I was gonna say but it was important man. Ok...give me a minute.
All that conservative hot AIR is coming out of your bottom. That's the only functioning appendage you people have.
Shawn...you've been punched in the throat before...haven't you. Be honest....we all know you have.
I knew an English guy who used to have fun with U.S. tourists by politely pretending that he had never heard of their country and that he didn't know where it was. He would ask them innocently if it was near Argentina or Bolivia, and of course, many of the Americans honestly didn't know or said "yes."
lol. Many Anglo -Americans will regard to the language that people from Mexico, Central America and South America speak as "Mexican" as in the Mexican language, and not Spanish. Is this on purpose? I have to believe so, people can't be that ignorant or stupid.
It's COLOMBIA not Columbia. You are proof positive of the shameful ignorance that grips the natives of this poor excuse for a nation
Here's a plane ticket xirume
I don't care about where they're from, nor do I expect them to be sensitive to my racial/ethnic make-up. I just want them to be legal and speak English.
Amen!
Si Señor! Muy verdad!
Yeah. Absolutely. So what happened was...uh...ok first there was...uh...wait...I don't get it.
Hispanic is not an Ethnicity either. It's a name someone came up with to refer to people from South America who speaks Spanish. Question is, what do you call someone from Brazil?
Waxed?
and for some Reason... when an Egyptian moves here we dont call them African Americans.... yet that is exactly what they are.
Mexican?
Well, you definitely cannot call them Hispanics, because they come mainly from the Portuguese empire. They are Latin Americans, but, again, there are a lot of white people in Brazil, like Xuxa, Ayrton Senna, Gisele Bundchen,football players like Socrates, Leonardo , Falcao , etc... etc. So the origin, doesnt have anything to do with your race.
> a made up social construct
IIs there a point to that observation? Very little is NOT a made up social construct. Government is a social construct. Democracy is a social construct. Know what is "natrual"....? Not a "social construct"? Anarchy! I'm all for "natural" living!
Awesome. Exactly what I think. I don't care where they are from. Come to America, be American.
People also assume everyone from the Middle East is an Arab.
Yeah! They're Mexicans of the Persian Gulf, just like Puerto Ricans are the Mexicans of the Sea 🙂
Ok. fine, I get it. They are 'Hispanic' and not 'Mexican'. However, I demand to be referred to as 'Scandinavian' and NOT 'WHITE'.
Yeah...I hear ya. I'm always the white guy...Never the Scottish American.
Lol, and I demand that everyone is able to discuss the specifics of russian poetry with me. If they can't name at least 5 great russian poets on the spot I'll assume they don't respect my culture.
So what do we call Spanish speaking people from Spain? Or what do we call white people from Brazil? Or even better, what do we call white people from Chile?
...And I that all Latinos would recognize that I'm a Korean, not "chino", and yes I can gangnam style
could someone place the word "wish" in the above repry?
@ MP: No, I'm black, like you soul.
Yeah. Now...what was the article about?
I once heard a Souix Native American, who was asked what he thought of illegal aliens, reply, "I think you all should go home including the European settlers since Colombus'.
Yes, and those folks came to the country for the same reason the "illegals" do...they didn't like where they were living and wanted a better life. Then, there was the emigration to Mexico and and subsequent unwillingness to follow Mexican llaw, which produced Texas. No surprise, since they didn't want to follow English law either and broke away. At least Mexico learned from Texas: law now is that no non-Mexican can own land within 50 miles of the border, including the ocean. So if you buy a time share in Cancun,for example, it has to be sold after 50 years.
Our forefathers didn't wait in line long. They came over here by the boatload (literally), landed in NYC, and were immediately processed in. There is no reason to have a line that takes years to go through. If they work and don't have a criminal record, the should be welcomed here and given legal status with a path to citizenship
I thought the exact same thing. Did you read my mind?
This news article, though interesting, doesn't help much to diminish confusion. In fact it fuels up controversy as it referes to South Americans and Hispanics as they were the same. Brazil, the largest, richest and more populated country of South American has nothing to do with Spain or Hispanics. Our history is bind to Portugal and we are a portuguese speaking country.As far as hispanics are concerned, is also very dificult to us to distinguish between diferent cultures. Is also usual to less educated brazilians to presume that they all come from Argentina or Paraguay.
Leo congrat's for your explanation. From Mexico to Tierra de fuego, we are classified as Hispanic, but what happen with countries like your country, where t he language is no t Spanish , some Caribbean islands and guyanas, the classification is racist and wrong, I was born in Cuba, but because I am blonde with light eyes, the people approach me always in English, it is funny. Even in Europe they get confuse about my nationality. I do not like to be call Hispanic, that is segregation for me, I know people born in Latin America with better feelings and education that. Some really white and blond hair. Education is really the most important part on all this.
You can argue that culturally and ethnically, the difference between Spain and Portugal is minor at best, insofar as any exists. In fact, Portugal has the look and feel of any of those mainland Spain ‘countries’, like Galicia or Barcelona. Unlike Galicia or Barcelona, it achieved its independence. In Roman times, Portugal, was part of ‘Hispania.’ The fact that Brazil is a Portuguese spin-off does not explain it being different from say Argentina or Cuba.
This different has to do more with its own history, its development, the different ethnic groups that have made it their home, etc. (often some differences between the many latin american countries.) All these factors combined produce something unique: a nationality i.e. a paraguayan or brazilian or Chilean, you name it. Your Portuguese language and heritage, both romance like the spanish, is just just one and perhaps not the dominant factor. Obrigado.
Johnny, I understand the ancient cultural and historical link, but during almost the entire collonial period the two countries were rivals, occasionaly even enemies. Brazillian history and culture reflects that, and because of that historical development we nowadays feel strongly different from our neigboring countries. Being called hispanic doesn't make any sense at present times, even though I do not consider it to be ofensive or anything like that.
I was helping a college professor grade quizzes for an Ancient History class back in the mid-90s. One section of the quiz contained a black-and-white outline map of the world, and students were supposed to write the names of eight major ancient civilizations in the appropriate part of the map. I will never forget what I saw that day, and what it means about the level of education in this country.
First, shockingly few people were clear on the difference between the Old World and the New, so Greece was almost as likely to show up in America as in Europe.
Second, they seemed unaware that the top and bottom parts of the map represent very cold areas, and the middle very hot areas, so it was fairly common to see Egypt placed in areas like Greenland.
But my favorite was when students didn't know which part of the maps were water and which were land, and placed ALL the ancient civilizations in oceans.
And let me mention this again....these were college students.
Doomed...we are all doomed.
I went to school in Russia, we had 4 years of geography, and 5 years of world's history.
Don't worry, the world will survive somehow.
Seeing how the US is the richest country in the world may be it is not important to know where the Ancient Greece was (hint: the same place Greece is today , lol). More important is to have a skill which can earn you a living.
I'd say it reflects more upon the quality of education being provided by that Professor than the intelligence levels of the students. Afterall, he is the common factor for all of them.
My god! What sort of college was that? I'll assume the entry requirements weren't very stringent.
"...we are all doomed."
What do you mean "we" Kimo Sabe? Only America is doomed....and then justice will prevail.
> My god! What sort of college was that? I'll assume the entry requirements weren't very stringent.
American college tests consist only of math and english.
Well not quite all illegals. Puerto Rico has been an American Territory for a very long time , they are Americans
in the same way we recognizes the accent of an American or a Jamaican or a english person, we Latinos also recognize the accent of each Latin American country.
I bet you cant tell an argentine from a uruguayan (if the argentine is from buenos aires)
Oh Kevin, permit me to explain that some Hispanics are white European (from Spain), Others were indigenous to the Americas (like some Mexicans), some are former black slaves (like some Dominicans ans some Puerto Ricans), and some interbred between the races in the Americas. Others reserved their white race and never would think to marry out of their race (my family was that way white European Spaniards). Does Republican Marco Rubio, (a Cuban–American) look like a Mexican? I am a white 3rd generation European American-Spaniard who speaks perfect Spanish. When I lived in NYC, people wondered if i was Puerto Rican, when I went to college in Florida many thought i was cuban, when I moved west and spoke spanish Mexicans would ask me where I was from cause I do not look Mexican. Skin color has nothing to do with nationality or doing evil vs going good. I am an American and proud of my heritage
I am so proud to be Honduran. I hate being confused with Mexican. Kudos to these restaurant owners 🙂
A lot of people here (AZ) that I know DO care.
Hispanic covers a wide range of peoples. A wonderfully diverse group.
Before going out in public you better respect yourself first,than others or else.....lol.....
OK so let me set the record straight....Puerto Ricans are americans by BIRTH....and there are many hispanics that are here LEGALLY !!!
"and there are many hispanics that are here LEGALLY !!!"
And 10 times that number here illegally. What's your point ramos?
I have a son and daughter that we adopted from Colombia. My daughter is especially bothered when people call her Mexican. She corrects them and I am glad she does. All the cultures from different countries are different, and they want to be recognized for that, as they should be. The food, customs, etc are all different. To use a food example, it is like someone here making Kansas City BBQ and calling it Memphis BBQ. That person from KC might be a little upset about that, and state the difference. For those of us that are "white", we recognize the difference between German, French, Spanish, Italian, Greek, etc. We don't call those "European." Why not recognize the differences in the other regions of the world? When "white" people meet someone else who is white but has an accent or doesn't speak English, they ask the person "Where are you from?" If a white person meets someone Hispanic, they immediately assume that person is from Mexico and doesn't even ask the question.
"Hispanic" means someone with ancestry from Spain, i.e. they are WHITE. They are NOT "Hispanic" just because they speak spanish. The U.S. Census calls it "non-white Hispanic" but that's not right. Latin Americans are Latino and Latina's. Maybe Central Americans are Cento and Centa's.
American isnt a race. Its a description of United States citizens of all races. I hate it when people deny their American heritage and root for their ethnicity instead of their own country. We should unite as Americans rather than let the nationalities or races of our forefathers divide us.
They are not even hispanics they actually amerindians or mixed, true hispanics are from spain a european country.
Most Americans who don't travel will not notice the difference because theyre afraid of diversity and are straight out racist....racist +hate=FEAR
You know, most Hondourans probably think Canadians are Americans, or Vietnamese are Cambodian. It's pretty tough to realize difference when you're too poor to travel the world. But I guess you don't care about that, do you?
so by your logic....if I'm afraid, it's because i'm racist and hateful.
Foodpimp, MS13 isn't a dangerous group, you're just misinformed. Poor American 🙂
Considering I don't know what ms13 is, I couldn't demonstrate fear of them. And no...I'm not gonna use wiki....cuz I really don't care.
The xenophonbia in these comments is rampant .... and scary.
yes, it is - and shameful
Where is Xenophobia? And what do we call people from there? This is getting complicated!
It's OK Tony. Let them have their last gasp at feeling superior. At the current rate Hispanics of all types will out number white folks in America very, very soon. I didn't make that up. It's a well known fact based on Census data. In just a few generations Spanish is likely to be the predominant language in the US. So, enjoy that self-righteousness people. You'll be in the minority soon enough and you'll finally understand how the other side feels.
True, soon Hispanic gardeners, dishwashers, maids, day laborers, fruit pickers, and illegal aliens will outnumber everyone else. You are so true.
Yeah you must be right. It seems every Mexican in front of me at the grocery store has four or five screaming kids. Oh and they're using their government paid for food stamps. Is it self-righteous or just the plain truth?
News flash all Hondurans look like mexicans and all blacks resemble africans too.
strange, all the latino folks i know are here legally, and most are citizens.
Ha! Come to work on a construction site or produce field in Florida, you see differently. But, hey fine, all those many Americans on unemployment don't wsnt to do that work. Problem is thatall those illegals don't pay taxes but take full advantage of federal and state programs including education for their many children that Medicaid paid to deliver and care for. Not excusing those on unemployment. I'm tired of paying for them too.
Not sure what state you live in but here in California WE the employee pay into our own unemployment!
Are you assuming that most of them are immigrants at all, whether legal or illegal? Guess what: there are TONS of Hispanic-Americans. (Hispanic-American means they ARE American nonetheless, in case you couldn't figure that out. And no, you can't spot an illegal immigrant by looking at him. You CAN be born here if you are of Mexican, Honduran, Haitian, Cambodian, Russian, Chinese, or Middle Eastern descent, just so you know. Hospitals in the US do deliver babies who aren't simply "white" or "black.")
Exactly.
If you went to another country illegally, they are not going to keep you... or even exploit you as a source of cheap labor illegally by corporations.
No, they're just kissing up to the ghost of Cortes...
And why is this a story ?
Way to erase any doubt that you are willfully racist, Southern Pride Carolinas. And to all the other haters, of course Hispanics can tell who is what – Spanish speakers from various regions have different accents, at the very least. Aren't people from Georgia and The Bronx slightly irritated too when people confuse them with each other or with Scottish or French-Canadian folks? They would if that actually happened, though it doesn't because only ignorant, racist, white Americans are idiotic enough to make such blatant mistakes, then defend those mistakes with great pride for their ignorance.
Well, if you don't like it, stay above the Sweet Tea Line.
Wouldn't he be a Honduran? Where is the Country of Hispan located? Never can find that one on the map!
I think it's next to Orientalia, south of Whiteopolis and east of Brownistan.
>> knuckle dragger
Wouldn't he be a Honduran? Where is the Country of Hispan located? Never can find that one on the map!>>>>
Try Hispanola .... it was the old geographical reference for the Caribbean island that is now Dominican Republic and Haiti. Hope that helps.
wasting your time - some people do not care to educate themselves.
Actually there is a country known as Hispanola
Actually, there is an island known as Hispaniola. I'll be flying there next weekend. There are 2 countries on the island, Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
What used to make America great is that we were all Americans. Not Asians, Mexicans, Germans, Greeks, Italians, etc. But now we have given Hispanics their own special designation. Even the guy in the article referred to whites as Americans, but not himself. He said he's Hispanic. Here's the deal folks: You are either an American with a Hispanic heritage or you're a Hispanic living in America. HUGE difference. We are no longer one people. And articles like this show why.
Actually, what made America great was the mass genocide of the Native Americans, taking of their land and natural resources for a pittance and the blatant disregard for their inherent inalienable treaty rights... The enslavement of an entire race of people from Africa... who were tortured, beaten and killed by the millions while they built the economic and agricultural infrastructure of our nation entirely uncompensated... As well as the .77 that each woman is paid for the care, education and cleaning of the entire human population of the United States... BUT yeah, imagine we were all one people to begin with if it makes you able to sleep at night. 🙂
Those are some pretty solid facts. Unfortunately, TGOPers are immune to facts.
Hey, Genius... Are you seriously unaware that America has always been built of Italians, Mexicans, Asians, Greeks, Germans, Irish, Scottish, etc... etc... ? Ever heard of Ellis Island? Any idea who build the first railways? For the love of all that's holy, read a book! And I used to your music so much. 🙁
I didn't know The United States was the only country in America to be called solely America? All people who live in the Americas are Americans, not only the people living in the US so get that straight. Also, the US is made up of immigrants, not pure Americans. U.S. has one of the worst history of any country beginning with slavery and segregation, and the killing of the natives which are still fighting for their rights to their land up to this day. I just laugh at how the US government tries to pride themselves of the excellence of their country when it has an horrendous background history to back it up. And to clear things up, Democrats were the ones in favor of slavery and Republicans (Abe Lincoln) were against it so get you facts straight.
Yeah, like there's a difference.
Yes, many Americans do think that all Hispanics are Mexican. Additionally, many TGOPers think that all Hispanics are illegals.
I sure do. You are correct about that.
Tool
And I'm not a 'RACIST', I'm a LAW ABIDING AMERICAN who believes that entering this country illegally is illegal and should be handled as such regardless of what nationality you are.
If you break the law. Expect the consequences.
As a legal American Citizen, I find your assumption that all Hispanics are Illegal as highly ignorant, malformed, and demonstrates the lowest form of an enlightened society. Your comment is not so far from the other common argument that we are stealing jobs. Well, for the record, given your low level of reasoning and critical thinking, I certainly wouldn't care for your job, nor do I think you could ever aspire to get mine. Thank you for proving ignorance still exists in our society. And for everyone else that has demonstrated blatant racism and ignorance, not only do many of these countries speak different languages and dialetcs, but the food, culture, and customs vary. It would be as if someone were to say all Americans are Ignorant Rednecks. And despite the commenters attempts to prove that, we all know America is a diverse society filled with a mixture of races and ethnicities.
No one sees the irony that the PC term for all white people is "Anglo" even when the majority of white people are not of anglo origin?
but it is ok to call everyone from Europe white?
i think your comprehension is lacking, here. the issue is not calling hispanics hispanic or latino. it's calling them mexicans. mexico is a country, not an ethnic type. it's the same as calling all white people german.
TGOPers understand logic like an orangutan understands calculus.
europeans wait in line? Hold on let me ask a native
I always hear Canadians complaining that when they go to Europe, South America, or Asia, people always assume they are from the United States.
That's tough...
That's interesting. I hope the white folks wouldn't mind when they are being white. How many different kinds of whites are there anyway???
There are no "white people" except those who love to be ignorant.
so what do you call the fair skinned people?
When many news networks and cable news companies called the new pope the first Latin American Pope you can understand why people are ignorant. People who are supposed to be educated do not know that Argentina is part of South America and not Latin America or Central America as we call it. Bow I guess all the Germans, polish and Irish as well as the blacks that live in South America all came from Latin counties like Spain, Italy or Portugal and the natives who were there before anyone else arrived just happen to be Latin I guess.
Uh...Argentina IS a Latin American country. It is also in South America. One doesn't preclude the other. "Latin American" refers to countries in the Americas in which Spanish or Portuguese is the dominant language...it's a cultural designation. "South America" refers to the portion of the Americas that lies south of Panama. It's a geographical designation. Argentina is a Latin American country that is situated in South America.
Exactly! I distinctively remember hearing on my news that it was the first Pope from the Americas. Maybe that depends on which news affiliate I do not know.
Sorry, but your are factually incorrect. South American countries that were colonies of Spain and Portugal are all considered Latin America. That includes Argentina and their South American neighbors. There was also Northern European, Eastern European and Asian immigration to Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean and elsewhere in the region.
So what to you call a Brazilian? He's not Hispanic, is he?
Central America is defined as the countries between Mexico and South America, whilst Latin America refers to all countries south of the United States, including the whole of South America. Therefore, the pope is, indeed, the first Latin American pope. Check your facts first.
WE DO NOT THINK YOU'RE ALL MEXICAN. Jesus Christ. I am sick of hearing this.
Who is "we?"....do you now take the mantle for all those who continue to demonstrate their ignorance? Very telling. Sorry, mate, but you're not the spokesperson for everyone. I run into it all the time. So you can bark and gnash your teeth all you want, but others continue to do it, so open your eyes.
The "Mantle" of responsibility for all things in the galaxy belongs to forerunners alone.....but ya....seriously though...I agree with your point.
Actually been Cuban I was once racially discriminated by an Asian person I wont say from what country and she just assumed that I was Mexican. She started by "You Mexicans ??????????????.
Not all Americans think this, just the stupid ones.
and did the article say All Americans do this? No. Nice way to avoid the truth in front of you. You ran first to defend instead of engage. Not surprising for an American.
McCollum, play nice. One day it will be yolur turn.
Not surprisingly, the article contains no mention that 12 million Hispanics in America are here illegally.
Ricardo Montalban was Mexican but never liked being Mexican
Wow, that must be hard. It must be like when someone walks into a Swedish store only to find out it's actually Finnish, or a Chinese Restaurant that's actually Vietnamese. Grow up, Latin America, you're not the only ones lumped together, you know.
Great point
It's called the real world, live there sometime. Pull up your Pampers and realize that 90% of the world doesn't know anything about the world outside of their nation. I don't have time to learn what's different about Myanmar and Thailand, what's different about Hui and Han Chinese, or what's so different about Tennessee over Kentucky. It's called a human condition, this lumping together we do, it's not hurtful unless you've got thin skin.
ahh, if only i could have been born on another planet.
Actually, I doubt anyone in Europe or Latin America walks into a Finnish restaurant thinking it was Swedish. The level of ignorance about other countries by Americans, is unsurpassed by any other nationality. Other nationalities are more modest and don't think they are the navel of the world. They know the difference between a Swedish and a Finnish flag.
I can spot the difference between a Cambodian and a Vietnamese flag, but can you tell the difference between the people? How about Iraqis and Kuwaitis? How about Hopi and Navajo? "They" is anyone not "we", so it's always harder to tell apart.
And many many more are a majority Indigenous to the area, aka "Indio" – but the ridiculous layers of classism, racism, and light-skin worship that happens in Central America/Caribbean/South America is enough to make my stomach roil
He's in LA, people in California aren't stupid, I think he's just being trolled
What ever, hispanic, Latino, Mexican. We call Asians, 'Asians'. Minorities (sorry the majority) calls white people 'white'. What's the point of this article?