Native American mascots: Pride or prejudice?
Many Native Americans consider the Washington football team's name racist.
April 4th, 2013
03:36 PM ET

Native American mascots: Pride or prejudice?

By Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN) - Suzan Shown Harjo remembers when she walked into a store with her grandfather in El Reno, Oklahoma. She wanted to get something cool to drink on a summer day. It was the early 1950s and the storekeepers told the 6-year-old she had to leave.

“No black redskins in here,” they said.

At that moment, Harjo felt small, unsafe, afraid. Because she was a dark-skinned Native American - Cheyenne and Hodulgee Muscogee - she was being identified by just her coloring. She wasn’t even a whole human being. Not even her grandpa, whom she saw as all-powerful, could do anything to protect her.

Later in her life, that incident made her angry. Angry enough for Harjo to launch a lifelong mission to protect her people.

Suzan Shown Harjo has been fighting for decades to remove Native American mascots from sports teams.

Part of her work took aim at sporting teams that use Native Americans as mascots. With the start of the baseball season this week, some of those teams have been front and center. The Cleveland Indians, for instance, feature a smiling Indian dubbed Chief Wahoo, criticized by Native Americans as a racist caricature.

The most offensive example of a mascot, says Harjo, is the one used by Washington’s football team. She has been fighting for years to get the Redskins to change their name.

The R-word - she can’t even bring herself to say it - is the same as the N-word, says Harjo, president of Morning Star Institute, a national Native American rights organization.

She finds it unbelievable that more than half a century after she was told to get out of that El Reno store, after decades of civil rights struggles and progress on race relations, Americans have no problem with rooting for a team called the Redskins.

Fans say the name is an honorific. But the Merriam-Webster dictionary says this: “The word redskin is very offensive and should be avoided.” And to many Native Americans, nothing could be more derogatory than the use of that word.

“The Washington team - it’s the king of the mountain,” Harjo says. “When this one goes, others will.”

The controversy over Native American names in sports is longstanding and surfaces in headlines now and then, as it did in December when the Atlanta Braves baseball team was reportedly considering bringing back a dated “screaming Indian” logo for batting practice caps.

Or when Amanda Blackhorse, a 31-year-old Navajo social worker, went to Washington last month to attend a hearing of the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board. She has petitioned to cancel the Redskins trademark on grounds that the name is racist. Harjo filed a similar petition in 1992 and won, but she later lost in the appeals process.

Harjo was defeated in the courts, but public opinion has been shifting steadily on the matter.

In March, several lawmakers introduced a bill in Congress that would amend the Trademark Act of 1946 to ban the term “redskin” in a mark because it is disparaging of native people. Among the sponsors of the bill is civil rights activist Rep. John Lewis, D-Georgia.

Harjo says she hopes the legislation will accomplish what litigation has failed to do so far.

If passed, the bill would force the Washington football team to discard its trademarked name and ban the use of any offensive term in any future trademarks.

Proponents believe that Native American mascots pay homage to the people and help promote a better understanding of those who dominated America before Europeans landed.

The Cleveland Indians mascot, Chief Wahoo, has been criticized as a racist caricature.

But opponents say the mascots perpetuate stereotypes that are void of context and history. They argue that even if the mascots themselves are not racially insensitive, they portray native people as one-dimensional.

“A good many Americans don’t know any Indians,” says Kevin Gover, who heads the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of the American Indian.

“The Indian you see most often in Washington, D.C., is at a football game - at the expense of real Indians, real history, real culture. The petty stereotype has become expected.”

In February, the Smithsonian museum hosted a symposium on racist stereotypes and cultural appropriation in American sports. The idea was to make people think about how these stereotypes can be damaging to Indians.

“Kids grow up and think it’s OK,” Gover says. “It’s not OK.”

There used to be more than 3,000 teams with Native American names and mascots. That’s down to about 900 now - but that’s still 900 too many for Gover.

He grew up, also in Oklahoma, and recalled how the University of Oklahoma became the first collegiate team to drop its unofficial mascot, Little Red, a student who dressed as an Indian chief and danced on the sidelines during football games.

Protests on campus forced the demise of Little Red. In 2005, Oklahoma adopted two costumed horses, Boomer and Sooner, as mascots who represented the real horses that pulled the Sooner Schooner. But many students didn’t take to them.

One of them was Royce Young, who wrote about the university’s “mascot crisis” in an online forum in 2007:

“But why can’t OU bring back Little Red? Oklahoma prides itself on being ‘Native America.’ American Indian heritage is something that is more prevalent in this state than any other in the nation. Would it be so wrong to have Native American imagery representing ‘Native America?’ "

Young, 27, and a writer for CBS Sports, said he now believes he would have written a more educated post after having discussed the mascot issue with Native Americans.

"I wouldn’t say I regret writing it,” he said. “But I’d be much more sensitive of understanding why Little Red was insensitive to some instead of saying, ‘What’s the big deal?’ ”

Royce said he saw nothing wrong with Oklahoma honoring its native people, but not with a tasteless mascot.

Several college teams followed Oklahoma’s footsteps and dropped Native American mascots - Stanford and Syracuse among them.

The movement to do away with Indian mascots gained momentum after the American Psychological Association in 2005 called for the immediate retirement of the mascots based on studies that showed the harmful effects of inaccurate racial portrayals.

The following year, the NCAA, the governing body of collegiate sports, adopted a policy banning teams with “hostile or abusive racial/ethnic/national origin mascots, nicknames or imagery” from competition. The ban affected high-powered football schools such as Florida State University with Chief Osceola and the University of Illinois, whose official symbol was Chief Illiniwek.

Some states have put the morality of the Indian mascots up for a vote.

Last year, voters dumped the University of North Dakota's Fighting Sioux mascot. And Oregon prohibited public schools from the use of Native American names, symbols or images. The names on the banned list include: Redskins, Savages, Indians, Indianettes, Chiefs and Braves.

At Florida State University, a white man dresses up as Chief Osceola, smears war paint on his face and rides an appaloosa called Renegade to the middle of Doak Campbell Stadium. He plants a burning spear on the field before every home game. The marching band plays Indian-themed music, and the crowd goes wild doing the “tomahawk chop,” a move picked up by the Atlanta Braves.

FSU student Lincoln Golike, who played Osceola in 2002, told the Florida State Times back then that it was tremendous honor to have so many admiring fans.

The Seminole tribe in Florida made an agreement with FSU to allow the use of its name that allows the university to continue competing in the NCAA. The university says its relationship with the Seminole tribe is one of mutual respect.

However, the Seminole nation in Oklahoma, comprised of the descendants of a majority of the Seminoles forced from their lands by the Indian Removal Act, has voiced its opposition to FSU’s mascot.

The real Chief Osceola fought U.S. soldiers in the Seminole Wars. He was captured in 1837 under a flag of truce and died in prison. Before his burial, the soldiers chopped off the head of the Indian warrior to keep as a trophy. That Osceola serves as a mascot at FSU doesn’t sit well with the Seminoles in Oklahoma and many other Native Americans.

“Native Americans feel offended, they feel hurt. They feel their identity is being trivialized,” says Carol Spindel, who wrote “Dancing at Halftime,” a book that explored native mascots.

“This is such an ingrained part of American culture that it’s very hard to get people to question it,” says Spindel, a professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, where the official symbol used to be Chief Illiniwek. He was the subject of debate for decades and made his last appearance in 2007 under the threat of  NCAA sanctions.

But five years later, there are still some who want Illiniwek back. A nonbinding student referendum held just weeks ago strongly favored making him the official mascot again.

Spindel concluded in her book that mascots such as Chief Illiniwek were a reflection not of native people but of those who invented them.

“If we do a census of the population in our collective imagination, imaginary Indians are one of the largest demographic groups,” Spindel writes in her book.

“They dance, they drum, they go on the warpath; they are always young men who wear trailing feather bonnets. Symbolic servants, they serve as mascots and metaphors. We rely on these images to anchor us to the land and verify our account of our own past. But as these Indians exist only in our own imaginations, they provide a solipsistic connection and leave us, ultimately, untethered and rootless.”

At 67, Harjo believes she has made strides in her struggle to do away with racial stereotypes but says Native Americans have a long way to go.

“Because we as Indians, we don’t have the numbers,” she says, referring to the dwindling population. The latest census listed 2.9 million people as American Indian and Alaska Native.

“So we don’t pose a threat,” she says. “If we organized a march, the numbers would be so small. We’ve done it school by school. State by state.”

Harjo knows if the powerful Washington football team is forced to discard its name, then everyone else will follow. But for now, she takes pride in small victories.

Just a few weeks ago, a high school in Cooperstown, New York, decided to retire its R-word mascot.

C.J. Hebert, superintendent for the Cooperstown Central School District, said students approached him regarding their discomfort with the mascot that had been around for decades.

“I do think that times change and perspectives change, and certainly it’s historically a time for us to reconsider what the name is,” Hebert said.

That’s a statement that makes Harjo feel her campaign has been worthwhile.

Tell us what you think about Native American names and mascots below.

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  1. JustAnOpinion

    Growing up I was a Irish/Italian Catholic kid in a public school full of Protestants and Jewish kids that could not pronouce my name. They couldn't understand why I had to go to CCD and they couldn't understand the First Communion. I later went on to Catholic schoold but you know what? I don't hold a grudge or resentment towards those that didn't understand. If you looked at me you would see a white girl but this white girl had a lot racial slurs thrown at her. You know what? I survived and it didn't get me down.

    April 8, 2013 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
    • bilbo

      Great story.

      April 8, 2013 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  2. ph

    the r's and n's?.....they cannot even bring themselves to say the words. Journalistic sadness!

    April 8, 2013 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
  3. Windego

    I certainly understand "Redskins" being offensive. "Indians" as well, although more in the "makes no sense when you consider it" department (think Cleveland Anglos, Cleveland Asians). But Braves? A brave is simply a warrior with no derogatory implications. We have the Fighting Irish (talk about a stereotype), Trojans, Spartans, Celtics, etc. so why not Braves?

    April 8, 2013 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
  4. AJ

    I think intent ins something that needs to be considered. The teams are intending to represent native americans as courageous, fierce, and warriors; simillar to what you would want from your players. The mascots and logos are meant to inspire. This lady has spend several decades fighting this??? WOW. Pick your battles...

    April 8, 2013 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • James PDX

      Intent is important, but not everything. If they truly intended to say something positive about Native Americans, they would change their name to something that isn't insulting to them.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
  5. Leslie

    Thank you for one of the few sane comments on this article.

    April 8, 2013 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
  6. Leslie

    I wonder how many of those who decry anyone who criticizes a disgustingly racist symbol like that of the Redskins are white and male? Of course you wouldn't understand, how could you? You've enjoyed white skin privelege and gender privelege all your lives.

    April 8, 2013 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
    • PK

      The Irish came to this country and were received with rocks and sticks thrown at them and left out in the cold to die and faced prejudices for most of this country's development.... What privileges did my ancestors enjoy? Their skin was white? This was the most racist and ignorant post I read on this board.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
      • Don Black

        The Irish as the unwanted Catholic hasn't been the target of genocide. Yeah nobody wanted to rent to you but that isn't the same as a Calvary rifle bullet to the head

        April 8, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jamjamjamjamjamjamjam

        exactly. so sorry it was hard for certain white people to make it in a situation where white people were the only ones who could possibly make it.

        April 8, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Irish/Native Mutt

        I agree, I'm both Irish and Native American. Both sides have had really bad things happen to them. I hope people will learn more about what happened to people all over the world. Every "kind" of peoples all over the world don't know about what "races" had what happened to them.

        April 22, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Robert

    I believe that slurs against different groups are symptomatic of deeper issues. I think trying to eliminate slurs is aiming at the wrong target. I would rather see us spend time trying to make those receiving the slurs understand the weaknesses and hurts that must exist in a person who is attempting to damage by hurling the invalidation. Likewise, I want people who use the slurs to understand the basis for why they feel threatened to the point that they must try to belittle someone. These strategies have helped me as a parent and grandparent. I believe in this discussion about slurs, that the issue is not the real issue. We need to look deeper and triage the sources for the venom.

    April 8, 2013 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
    • tribeless

      But the name of a team is not a slur. It is an honor.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
      • LivingInTheSouthwest

        It is not an honor if the name is a slur.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
      • James PDX

        it would be if that team used an honorific rather than a derogatory term. Braves, Chiefs and Indians are all OK in my book. Redskins is clearly not OK.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
    • guest

      Robert- Your reply makes sense for individuals who are being called the slurs on an individual basis- but this is talking about a national team using the slur as their mascot/team name. The team should change it as a way of showing others that the slur is not ok to use. Let them use it as an example.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
  8. tribeless

    When a single word becomes more important than individual sentiment then maybe you are being herded.

    April 8, 2013 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
  9. tribeless

    The article is far more condescending than the mascot.

    April 8, 2013 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Hugo Stiglitz

      So true!

      April 8, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
  10. liamnc

    This is Stupid. Few things keep racism alive more than this politically correct hyper sensitive bs.

    April 8, 2013 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
    • James PDX

      I would agree. However, Washington should still change their name. A team's name is supposed to say positive things about the team. Redskin holds absolutely no positive connotations and is a clear derogatory term.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  11. Meh

    LIMEY – there, go play with that one for awhile

    April 8, 2013 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Don Black

      Limey – refers to the limes that British soldiers would suck on to prevent scurvy. While it can be used as a derogatory term its a pretty tame one.

      April 8, 2013 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • tribeless

      Calling an American football team "the Limeys" would cause a little confusion.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Jack 2

      I just posted that but I see you beat me to it.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Meh

      Its only weak because the folks called LIMEY have white skin. If it were darker, it would have more meaning. Funny how we choose whats got more meaning.

      April 8, 2013 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  12. beto carden

    "R" word.....

    "N" word.....

    How about tthe"W" word

    April 8, 2013 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
  13. gggg

    Let the Redskins keep their name. Just change the logo to a redskin potato. They're really good with some parsley and butter.

    April 8, 2013 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
    • bubbapuppy

      LMAO! Thanks for this comment. Made me crack up.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      From now on, those will be known as native american potatoes.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
  14. Brian

    When does the maddness stop? Why must there always be something for someone to complain about? You experienced a racist moment when you were a child in the 1950's. What you seem to have forgotten, that individual was 1 person at a time when that type of belief was rampant in our country. I don't see how you can make it "your life mission", to fight native american racisim? What you may see as offensive does not mean it is in fact racisim. Our society has become a society of "blame". Someone has to be held accountable? The person you need to blame is the store clerk back in the 1950's. You have recieved your 15 minutes of fame by having your story published on CNN.com, but seriously if you think about it, the very people that speak "racisim", generally are the very root of the problem.

    April 8, 2013 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
    • David

      I will meet some of these folks halfway. Still others I shan't meet at all. Most of the native american naming is honorific. When it is offensive, I give. However, there are too many people in America today who wake up and their first thought is, "I think I'll be offended today – who can I attack/sue?"

      April 8, 2013 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Don Black

      It will stop when whites stop being insensitive to other peoples cultures. And then like the racists who have posted here stop whining that it is all the PC police's fault and not their ingrained bigotry

      April 8, 2013 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Brian

        Don, being white does not mean I am insensitive to other cultures. It has to do with education and a proper up bringing. I was raised by great parents who taught me that the color of our skin does not define who we are. With that being said, the mere fact that you associate "white" people with "bigotry" proves my point. You are blaming "white" people for racisim. Our society has become so insensitive that we automatically stereotype people immediately by the color of their skin, the religion they practice, the area of town they live in or simply by a comment they leave on a message board, expressing their own opinion. I am a christian that works for muslim owners in an organization that has a diverse group of individuals from multiple religous affiliations, who employs blacks and whites. The true root of the problem in my opinion is education. The very fact that you associate racisim only with "whites" is mind boggliing to me, as you might want to re-evaluate your stance, as racisim exists in all cultures, not just the "WHITE" culture.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
      • sue brooks

        I agree with you wholeheartedly. But I don't see it happening anytime soon.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
      • James PDX

        I would just like to 2nd Brian's post.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Jack 2

        Brian... Good post. I see you used you brain instead of what Don Black used.

        April 8, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don Black

        Brian you have no idea what your talking about. This nation has up until recently been lead by, had it's laws written by, it's major corporations run by, and in general been ruled by WHITE men. Ignoring the white cultures racists past by saying "I've been raised to not see color" is at best naive.

        April 8, 2013 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don Black

        @Jack 2 Is that the best you can do, throw insults? Don't have enough brain power to actually formulate an intelligent opinion?

        April 8, 2013 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • verytiredofthis

        Brian, well said.

        April 9, 2013 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Pamela

      Brian, if you happen to be caucasian, NO you would not know how it feels to be called a racist slur. The Redskins ought to be shame of themselves, change the name.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Coolius Unroolius

      Unfortunately, it's racist for people to magically predict that you might be "White." It's also unfortunate that these people are correct in their prediction. The fact that your opinions make it so easy to predict your skin color/ethnicity should bother you if you are really clued into the idea of racism which obviously you aren't. The R word is offensive just like the N word it's time you and a whole lot of people of all colors learn that. The argument that there are other battles to be fought is weak. Dump the racist team names and grow up America.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  15. CTed

    So are "cowboys" a white stereotype. Certainly they aren't what is pictured in old westerns any more than the Indians are but we use them as mascots. We don't use scrawny weak desk jockeys (myself included) as sports mascots. We use strong images. Cowboys, indians, Pckers, boilermakers, Steelers.

    Personally I never thought it was a big deal and never thought it was a true, accurate depiction of any culture. But if it offends that group, no reason not to get rid of them.

    April 8, 2013 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Mycenia

      You're trying to compare a profession with a race of people.

      April 8, 2013 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
  16. Paul

    The drunken belligerent leprechaun of the Fighting Irish is A-OK.

    The noble Sioux warrior head of the Fighting Sioux is OMG RACIST!

    April 8, 2013 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Don Black

      People keep bringing up the Leprechaun of Notre Dame but this is a poor comparison. The Leprechaun and the nickname "Fighting Irish" was chosen/created by the Irish. If the Native American community was involved or is involved in the choosing of the mascot and name then we wouldn't be having this debate. The problem is that whites choose the mascot and then misrepresent NA culture when they do.

      April 8, 2013 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
  17. The Prince of Common Cents

    Trust me: The predjudice that you face from being African-American in this country is NOTHING compared to the hatred, mistreatment and predjudice that you face being Native-American in this country...

    April 8, 2013 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
  18. E.J.Dowd

    What a goofy waste of time. It's only offensive because she's MAKING it offensive. Move on.

    This is almost as lame as the woman who asked the pickle company to remove the word "midget" from their jar because her daughter is a dwarf and the word "midget" is offensive.

    Hypersensitivity is offensive.

    April 8, 2013 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
    • verytiredofthis


      April 8, 2013 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
  19. cdub2k

    In other news the Cleveland Indians are squaring off against the Atlanta Braves for a three game series.
    The winner of that series gets to square off against the Mexican Padres of San Diego

    Geesh give me a break

    April 8, 2013 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Good one cdub2k.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
  20. rofl

    The things that people whine about never cease to amaze me. The name stays, you lose. Find something else to cry about.

    April 8, 2013 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
    • verytiredofthis

      this offends me. I must make it my life's crusade to obsess about your statement instead of moving on and realizing that I have the opportunity to go to school and get a decent job and raise a family and teach my children how to live successfully in the most powerful country in the world.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
  21. silentpaul

    Im native american and those teams dont bother my family or myself. Most people who complain about this issue is not even remotely native american. Its so stupid. Grow up people!!!!!!!

    April 8, 2013 at 9:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Laura

      Same. You know, Yankee isn't exactly a term of endearment.. I don't her northerners whining about that.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
      • LivingInTheSouthwest

        "Yankee" might be derogatory in the South but in the North, it is often used as a term of pride. Not even close to the same situation as "redskin".

        April 8, 2013 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Planetalker

      You must not have experienced racial slurs as a child.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Don Black

      Paul, what if you were say Oneida and they called themselves "The Fighting Oneidans" but the mascot wore the iconic full headdress of a tribe from the plains of the Mid West. Then, after every score "Chief Mucky Muck" chased the opposing mascot with his tomahawk and did some made up goofy war dance? You wouldn't find that offensive? You wouldn't have a problem with whites portraying and misrepresenting your tribe? That is what is happening, peoples tribes are being misrepresented every day.

      April 8, 2013 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
  22. Josh

    I am going to sue anyone who dares to refer to me using the W-word. Anyone.

    April 8, 2013 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
    • timmytuner


      April 8, 2013 at 9:46 am | Report abuse |
    • SmarterThanYou


      April 8, 2013 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
  23. ffortnightly

    And I suppose those little bugs that bite you in the woods can no longer be called Chiggers? Are they now "Insect Americans? When does it stop? When does all this amazing whining and "sensitivity" stop? Do you think white people enjoy being blamed for everyone's problems? Or that white Americans are routinely told they are theives and rapists for forming this nation? ALL of this crap is driven by racist hatred of white people. Nothing more.

    April 8, 2013 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Coolius Unroolius

      First, take off your pointy hood. Second, go back to school and take an Anthropology class as you really could use an education. Third, please try and find a wife that is not a blood relation. Break the cycle, hillbilly!

      April 8, 2013 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Jamjamjamjamjamjamjam

        That was beautiful. A+++++. Thank you.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
      • wpnation

        How ironic...

        April 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • really...

      I think you're missing the point. The formation of this country DID involve white people being thieves and murderers and slave holders. And if you can't get your head around that, consider how you would feel about a race of people who burned your town down and forced you to walk thousands of miles to live on a piece of desert land, and then called you by names that were used to make you appear less than human. Now, I have never been called a thief or a murderer or a slave holder because I have never done any of these things, and probably you have never been called these things either (making a reasonable presumption) for the same reason. However, many of us have never stopped using our forbears' names for the people who were mistreated during these times, and WE get offended when they ask us to stop. That makes sense. Also, not sure that your comparison between a blood-sucking insect and a race of people lends much legitimacy to your post. Just sayin...

      April 8, 2013 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
  24. sumday

    no matter what someone is always going to be offended at something. might as well do away with any and all descriptions- from now on no one is any color, no one is smart or st%p*d, tall or short, male or female. From now on we shall just refer to everyone as human- but do not use any descriptive words what so ever to identify a specific person or group of people less someone takes offense.
    Just to point out a fact- if someone offends you that is solely your problem. your efforts would be much better spent fixing yourself to not be offended at such things than to go around trying to force your opinion on everyone else to act or think the way that you find acceptable. I'm not racist in the least but I do take offence to whiney people who get offended over every little word. The world is not fair, nor will all the world like you so get over it and change your own thinking instead of trying to change everyone else’s actions/thoughts!

    April 8, 2013 at 9:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Pitdownman

      Don't call me human.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      Another silly comment. All words have meanings and those meanings can have impact, that is why we use them. Some use words to bully and intimidate others and we shouldn't simply ignore them. "Tall" is not a derogatory term used to refer to a group of people. "Redskin" is and you can't wish it away with a simplistic approach such as "don't be offended." Using a word with negative impact and trying to sell it as an honor is bigoted and ingorant. We should fight bigotry.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
  25. Leslie

    The bears have called and filed a complaint against Chicago.

    April 8, 2013 at 9:15 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      That is pretty much an idiotic comment. Is that all you have? How is that relevant? What do you think? Do you think?

      April 8, 2013 at 9:17 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      That is a pretty silly comment. Is that all you have? How is that relevant? What do you think? Do you think?

      April 8, 2013 at 9:44 am | Report abuse |
    • E.J.Dowd

      Very good! (Poor, abused, misunderstood and maligned bears.)

      April 8, 2013 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
  26. Roz

    I understand how she feels – and until you have had prejudice leveled at you, shut up!! We are talking genocide here – The people who settled this country took it from NATIVE Americans, and we justified our actions because we considered them inferior to us because they didn't have a bunch of fancy invented stuff. We came from other countries!! That is the real history. Accept the truth – our ancestors left other countries for a land where they could live as they saw best and agreed with their politics and religion. The countries we left were glad to see us go because we had caused them problems and they didn't agree with us.
    THAT is American history. Nice that we have to glorify it. The way we do things comes down to being human – and we humans do the same things over and over again. Divide and conquer!!!
    When ANY of us has suffered the same fate, then we can criticize or poopoo what she, all American Indian tribes, and other cultural groups brought to this country to give us cheap labor. All cultural groups do the SAME THING – we all try to rise from the bottom, we learn from those who conquer us.....if we survive, the grass is always greener on the other side, and we throw temper tantrums to get attention, like the little man of the north who China can't control (remember, no country took Hitler seriously until it was too late.)
    In the end, greed always take you down.

    April 8, 2013 at 9:15 am | Report abuse |
    • John

      And as horrible as it was, this was the way of the world. Every country has been invaded and conquered by a different group of people at some point in time. The technologically advanced tend to win out. That was then, this is now. Imperialism isn't really a thing anymore and I'm done listening to people employ the same old guilt trips. BTW, Native Americans weren't all one big happy family. There were plenty of groups who aided white settlers in fighting other groups of natives, just like there were African chiefs and kings who happily sold rival Africans to the whites for slaves.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:57 am | Report abuse |
      • really...

        That truly justifies our use of derogatory names. Thanks for clearing that up.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • D

      Roz – stop whining and grow up. Sports names have nothing to do with genocide. Some idiots are just too sensitive.

      April 8, 2013 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  27. cc

    When/where I grew up 'redskin' was used with respect. I'm sorry that Ms. Harjo's experiences were different but I see no reason why hers should overrule mine. Some people respect others & other people don't. It sounds to me like Ms. Harjo is one of those who don't. Unless you can actually get rid of them they're best ignored.

    April 8, 2013 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      You must have grown up in a pretty sheltered environment not to realize that "redskin" was offensive and derogatory. People who use the term are ignorant or bigoted, probably both.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
  28. A lighter shade of pale

    Redskins? Why fight over that. They are not a very good team. Just a bunch of aging millionaires (kind of like congress).

    April 8, 2013 at 9:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Billy Bob Cletus Feckwood, III

      Are you talking about the 2012 Redskins which are NFC East Champions and have the second youngest team in the NFL?

      April 8, 2013 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Redskins fan 4 life

      @A lighter shade of pale

      I know your talking about the "REDSKINS"!!! That right I said the Washington Redskins!!!
      & guess what...I'm a white guy...The OPPRESSOR, "The man!!" I've been the on the receiving end of reverse descrimination...so all you people of color that blame everything on this WHITE guy can byte me!!! I'm tired of being PC and getting blamed for everything because I'm WHITE!!!

      April 12, 2013 at 9:44 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Sam Adams

    I'm an American with guns. It's how we tamed this country and made it livable. Don't like it? Then get some bigger guns, leave, or just live with it.

    April 8, 2013 at 9:08 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      Whan is the last time you used your gun to make this a more livable country? Most people who use their guns make this a worse country.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
    • CB1111

      I am not sure the relevance of your statement. So I'll guess. Sorry if off base. While I believe in gun rights and that the ability of people to hunt and bear arms played a huge role in our history, the tribes were decimated by germ warfare. Mostly smallpox spread deliberately by gifts of known infected blankets. Also by slaughter of the buffalo, known to be the main means that the Plains tribes needed for survival. Later by removing children at gunpoint from their parents to place in "Boarding schools" that rivaled the Nazi's in practices (exposing children to TB deliberately, pulling good teeth, no anesthetic, rape then forced abortions, beatings,etc.). The boarding school children who survived are alive today as the last closed in the late 1980's if I recall correctly. Not so romantic a history as a battle.

      April 8, 2013 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
      • Jamjamjamjamjamjamjam

        Thank you for writing this. Most people do not know that the conquering of our continents was less than noble.

        April 8, 2013 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • really...

      Don't you find it odd that millions of people lived here, but it took white people to come and make it "livable" with their guns? You are truly a patriot, Sam Adams. Now go home, clean your guns, and drink yourself into oblivion.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
  30. lmori

    We drove them from their lands and murdered and raped their people nearly into extinction. Is it too much to ask that we change the name of a friggen mascot if they are offended by it? Jeez.

    April 8, 2013 at 9:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Josh

      You use the term "we", pretty freely. I am going to assume that close to zero of the people reading your comment have done any of the things you discuss.

      You seem to suggest that because some people of the Caucasian race did bad things, that people all people of the Caucasian race are somehow responsible for them. Basing such a responsibility on race is racist. If we are going to get past racism in this country, it has to stop from both directions.

      April 8, 2013 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
      • Don Black

        Josh but once recognized we shouldn't carry on the traditions of our grandfathers just because we have been doing it for so long. We may not be guilty of the NA genocide but that doesn't mean that some of the prejudices and insensitivity didn't survive and become our problem. Redskins is an insensitive 19th century term that needs to be removed from our lexicon.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
      • Jamjamjamjamjamjamjam

        By "we" I assume it is meant that "we" as white people still reap the benefits of the North American conquest. Though i did not give smallpox to an Indian, or remove him from his land, or take his children and place them in a boarding school where they were forced to learn to be like white people...I certainly own land in nc and tn and benefit from my whiteness that allows me the cultural capital to excel in the education and job worlds here. As white people we do not have to spend our lives apologizing but we should have the decency to admit the unearned advantages we have and we should work to see that others receive the same advantages and opportunities in the future.

        April 8, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Steve

    Yeah, don't worry Al Sharpton will be along soon to tell them how they felt.

    April 8, 2013 at 8:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      This makes no sense standing alone. Why it did not post as a reply to another post I don't know

      April 8, 2013 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
  32. jed

    I am a short bald white guy. Now I have offended myself and must start over. I am a height challenged hair deficient male Euro-American.

    April 8, 2013 at 8:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Excellent post. I for one think that all this political correctness is bull s word. I may now feel free to become offended at the use of the n word in rap and on public television. Can I sue? Caucasian? You had better refer to me as the German/Polish American that I am or I will become offended. Will I?

      The local high school football team is the Pirates. Is that ok to use? I mean technically pirates "R" worded women and pillaged and destroyed. Oh my gosh, all the violence. I guess it's not kosher to say...darn, can I say kosher or it that the k word? I'm confusing myself with this...

      Meanwhile another 1000 jobs left for China...

      April 8, 2013 at 8:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      I'm pretty sure you meant Pigmentally challenged.

      April 8, 2013 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
  33. BillyKillher

    If you are white , black , yellow you don't have a say in this. Only how a native american feels matters. their are many who protest at many games it doesn't get the publicity.
    What if the best white singer in the world does a tribute to jazz in black face? is that racist? Here it only matters how it makes an african amarican feel.

    April 8, 2013 at 8:11 am | Report abuse |
    • D

      "Only how a native american feels matters"?! Really? Who died and made you or native americans king? its just a name, get over it already. If it bothers you so much, go make your own team: the Chicago Caucasions, Wyoming Whities, Atlanta Asians...whatever. There are so many important problems in the country and world, and idiots waste time, money and patience over stupid stuff like this.

      April 8, 2013 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Dodgeball Kills Kids

    When the term ' extremist group ' was mentioned, I used to think of men in white sheets with hoods. Now, I think of liberals who fight grammar and suspend 8 year old kids for biting Pop Tarts into the shape of a gun.

    April 8, 2013 at 8:08 am | Report abuse |
    • MJL

      That is utterly ridiculous. You commented in the Jenna Jameson article with the same freaking comment – LOSER.

      April 8, 2013 at 8:56 am | Report abuse |
      • D

        That might not be his fault. I posted a reply here and it wound up in a census article...I think CNN's technology may be having problems.

        April 8, 2013 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  35. longtooth

    Read "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", then comment.

    April 8, 2013 at 8:00 am | Report abuse |
  36. Al

    I take offense to being called "white". That is an extremely racist and offensive term. Just because my skin is lighter than yours does not make me white. I am caucasian...

    April 8, 2013 at 7:39 am | Report abuse |
  37. Jman

    It depends, on the east coast people look at redskin with endearment. However it was the opposite when in the mid-west. Also in the mid-west people are more excepting of black skin people where on the east coast they're less accepting.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:32 am | Report abuse |
    • MJL

      Sorry JMAN – the Native Americans got screwed coast to coast. We broke treaty after treaty with them – move a little farther west and you'll be fine, until they had no where else to go.

      April 8, 2013 at 8:58 am | Report abuse |
      • ffortnightly

        No WE didn't. The past is a different place. If people today apologize for things they didn't do in the past, it's a purly hollow gesture that solves nothing. Whining about events from the past and applying todays moral code is a fruitless endeavor that only creates more and more division. Be a part of this nation if you dare. But please please stop whining about crap that happened centuries ago. We CAN'T fix that, it's over.

        April 8, 2013 at 9:33 am | Report abuse |
      • LivingInTheSouthwest

        @ffortnightly. The world has changed but not enough. We still face many challeges as a modern society. Bigotry still exists and it should be fought. We aren't always fighting past occurances but curent problems.

        April 8, 2013 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
  38. Somali Pirate

    Can we rename the team ' the raging liberals ?' There could be a picture of an overweight vegetarian white woman, with greasy hair. She'll have a veggie burger in one hand and her other hand will be pointing outward in a menacing fashion. We can make her look very aggressive and furious.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Somali Pirate

      Oh, and she'll have black framed glasses. We must include those.

      April 8, 2013 at 7:31 am | Report abuse |
    • Jman

      you cannot say white woman, its racist, you must say European American woman.....

      April 8, 2013 at 7:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Somali Pirate

        Oh right, I forgot. But what if it offends European women ? Personally, I find CNN'S layout on this page racist to black people. You have all this white on the page, and the only black is these small little letters that we're all typing. I'm calling Al Sharpton, and we will march to CNN headquarters and fight this injustice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        April 8, 2013 at 7:44 am | Report abuse |
  39. Chili Davis

    I find the N,R,W,P,C,V,B,N,A,Z,E,Q,T,Y,I,L,K,and H words very offensive. We must unite and ban these words. We as a society can't allow them to ever be used. They exist to hurt people.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:25 am | Report abuse |
  40. Crayz

    I have to admit, back in college I was a little irritated when people tried to tell me, a grown man, what words I could and could not use (thankfully since graduating to the "real world" that sort of bs has been kept to a minimum). Life is too short to tip-toe around trying not to offend anyone, and it's definitely too short to be offended by every stray word.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:23 am | Report abuse |
  41. Steve Toomer

    The funny thing is, is that the majority of indians don't have an issue with this. It's liberal whites who have absolutely nothing better to do with their failed and worthless lives. You can easily Google this same story that happened in one of the Dakota's last year. I think it was South Dakota. They had an indian realted name, and the white liberals attacked it. There were many indians who spoke up and didn't find the name offensive at all, as they were called ' the fighting sioux.' The way this works, is white liberals all get together, find a few indians who oppose it, and them go into full campaign mode ; because after all, they know best. Good God, is there anything worse than a liberal ?

    April 8, 2013 at 7:21 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      Really? And how do you know that most American Indians aren't offended?

      And, in South Dakota, the Lakota Sioux tribe would not endorse the use of "Fighting Sioux" along with the National Indian Education Association and the National Congress of American Indians. You can Google that.

      April 8, 2013 at 8:48 am | Report abuse |
      • MJL


        April 8, 2013 at 8:59 am | Report abuse |
      • James

        The situation you are referring to occurred in North Dakota not South Dakota. It was truly sad to see this noble figure removed from my home state. As a person who grew up in the state, who attended college at the University of North Dakota, and who grew up alongside Native Americans in the state (and omg is white!!), I think it was an absolute shame to see this removed. The nickname was treated with the utmost respect and the people of the state and the students of the university were very proud of its former figure. The magnificent mascot was portrayed as an art piece produced by a local Native American for the school. The school refrained from ever portraying the mascot outside of the realm of this art (no white kid on a horse) and the student body refrained from ever chanting or making actions which would portray a Native American. We knew this would be inappropriate. In fact, the school showed a short video presentation at every Sioux sporting event which portrayed the history of the Noble Sioux Indian.

        I agree, leave it to a few predominately white lawyers, the crooked NCAA (who called UND’s student population in 2004 Hostile and Abusive without ever setting foot on the University until the spring of 2012... Maybe it was too cold for them??), and a small group of elders from a North Dakota tribe who wouldn't even let their people express their opinions through a vote on this issue, destroy something which was part of the heart and soul of a small university in a small state. This was just one of those things which should have been left to the State of North Dakota to deal with, without the sanctions of the NCAA!!! The nickname is now gone with many of its loyal supporters wondering why things went the way they did. Sadly I fear an ever more prevalent tension and bout of racism between North Dakotans and their Native American brother-in could be the result of all of this. I doubt this is the response the NCAA was looking for. Despite, life goes on in North Dakota as it always has… with Dignity and Respect!

        April 15, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • E.J.Dowd

      This mostly liberal voter completely agrees with you on this issue. It's a silly dramatization of a non-problem.

      April 8, 2013 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Don Black

      Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm politically conservative and find the term Redskin offensive. I suggest you stop knee jerk blaming liberals. I know a great many conservatives who agree with me that we should not take on NA mascots unless we involve the NA community in order to represent their culture correctly.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
  42. B

    People can invent negative connotations for words as fast as we can outlaw words, and maybe faster. I predict that soon the words "fish", "coffee", and "skyscraper" will have negative connotations. How about this instead: as long as the word has a positive connotation, we let it stand. Oh and BTW, I agree with the person who said he would sue the next person who called him "white". I am also horribly against the z-word.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:19 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      Be real. Give a realistic analysis of the situation. Coffee and skyscraper are not going to develop negative connotations anytime soon. Making such silly statements only makes you look less than bright. Other than being the name of a football team, how is "redskin" have a positive connotation. And it is debatable that the team name is positive.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:26 am | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        Okay, let's be "real" here for a second. Why did the term "Oriental" became an offensive term? Why is "Fighting Irish" not an offensive term? Why is the "Vikings" mascot not considered offensive? Sports mascots offend people because they want to be offended and play the victim. Every culture has been defeated and subjugated at some point over time. It didn't happen to anyone alive today however so it's time to get over it and move on. Everyone knows what happened 200 years ago, just as everyone knows what happened to the Irish, the Gauls, the Persians, the Zulus, etc. Take care of those around you and make your life better now and focus on real problems and improve them.

        April 8, 2013 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
      • LivingInTheSouthwest

        @Steve: I don't know regarding "Oriental" and it is irrelevant. It is offensive when applied to people rather than things. "Fighting Irish" was created by the Irish and/or supporters of the Irish. As far as I know, it hasn't been used as a derogatory term for the Irish. Again, irrelevant, same as "Warrior". "Vikings" Not derogatory. I agree it is time to move on regarding the genocide of the American Indian people. Getting rid of the derogatory term "Redskin" might just help. You can't solve real problems when bias and prejudice abound. We have to tackle them as well. Ignorning them is problematic.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Turning Texas Blue

      The use of red herrings reveals a lack of logical evidence to support your argument, IMHO. I can still use red herring, right?

      April 8, 2013 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
  43. XKR

    Look, if you changed the Redskins' name to the "Whiteskins" and the logo to a fat white guy brandishing a TV remote control and a beer, I'm guessing that not only would most white people not be offended (I wouldn't), but every other minority group in this country would probably complain that it's not inclusive enough...

    It makes you wonder why this is such a big deal. It's a free society, no one is forcing you to even acknowledge the existence of the Redskins, let alone publicly support them.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:17 am | Report abuse |
  44. Fred Calculator

    I'm curious to hear how Elizabeth Warren feels about this. She's .0000000000000001% indian and is the leader of a tribe. Rumor has it that she goes by the name of ' running bull .'

    April 8, 2013 at 7:14 am | Report abuse |
    • MJL

      Comical to me how you would bring her up? Why? What does she have to do with it. OH – you're probably a Fox News guy. Never mind....

      April 8, 2013 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
  45. XKR

    I remember in High School, we spent probably a month covering 1815-1933 and about the same amount of time covering the 40 yrs from World War II through the Cold War. Given our tendency to emphasize recent and current events, an entire generation of Americans will probably receive Native American history amounting to a 30 minute "These people existed..." lecture before the teacher moves on to the next subject. Even if you don't like the word "Redskins" you should at least be glad generations of multi-racial, multi-ethnic Americans in the DC metro area are actively cheering for a team proudly bearing symbols associated with Native American heritage, rather than completely forgetting those peoples existed.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:09 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      Just because the fans think that they are honoring American Indians by the use of the name "Redskins" doesn't make it so. Exactly how does the name and logo of a NFL football team really keep us from forgetting the history and culture of the American Indians. I would guess that most Redskins fans know almost nothing about the history of the native peoples here beyond what they have seen in the movies. Only bigots defend the use of the term "Redskins". Only ignorant bigots try to tell everyone that using the term is really and honor.

      April 8, 2013 at 8:53 am | Report abuse |
      • XKR

        Ok I tell you what, we just leave the Native Americans on their reservations and forget about them entirely. I promise you, within 50 years people will have forgotten about their proud heritage and will only think of casinos. I guarantee you, the average high school student cannot explain what happened at Columbine nor its significance, and that wasn't even that long ago-how long will it take for people to forget a collection of tribes all but annihilated during the 19th Century? At least people in the DC area root for a team that possesses some vestiges of that culture. Also, the word bigot is meaningless, it has been so overused it is as valuable as a Zimbabwean Dollar.

        Full disclosure: I am a Baltimore Ravens fan with a barely concealed contempt for the team to the south...

        April 8, 2013 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Don Black

        Most Native Americans do not live on the reservation. They live next door.

        April 10, 2013 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  46. Josh

    I will sue the next person who uses the word "white" to describe me.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:06 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      You have that choice. I am guessing that, in my life-time, the use of "color" when describing race will be offense for all peoples.

      April 8, 2013 at 8:54 am | Report abuse |
      • XKR

        Ha. According to the left, straight, male, Christian Whites/Asians are in a special category of "not-allowed-to-be-offended". You will never in your lifetime see those demographics defended by the left. Words that might be even slightly offensive to others, however, will be slowly eradicated from the national lexicon, to the detriment of all.

        April 8, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Rob

    Go around the country and ask random people what a redskin is and the top 2 answers will be football player and potato....

    April 8, 2013 at 7:03 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      You go first. You may be surprised.

      April 8, 2013 at 8:56 am | Report abuse |
  48. AaronT3

    RACIST: When a group of people can nearly drive another group of people to extinction, yet tell them they have no right to be offended at degrading or dehumanizing motif.

    April 8, 2013 at 7:00 am | Report abuse |
    • A lighter shade of pale

      When the "native americans" first came over to North America, there were people already here. Did the new "native" peoples kill and exterminate the "natives" they found there? How racist!
      It is the nature of humans to conquer and kill. It has always happened and looks as if it will always happen.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:45 am | Report abuse |
      • LivingInTheSouthwest

        Who were those people that were already here when the Native Americans came to this continent? How did they get here? What became of them?

        April 8, 2013 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Don Black

        Genetic studies show that the two groups intermingled.

        April 8, 2013 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
  49. Terry

    I am of 1/2 Swedish and I find the Minnesota football pro team offensive. Vikings did not have horns on their battle helmets. That is a christian devil adornment, and I feel very hurt each time I see one of those big mean men running around hurting each other. Dressed like a Viking..... Oh god the pain!!!!!

    April 8, 2013 at 6:58 am | Report abuse |
  50. AaronT3


    April 8, 2013 at 6:55 am | Report abuse |
  51. rare_earth

    As a First Nations person, I'm offended at being referred to as an "Indian".

    April 8, 2013 at 6:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob

      sounds like a personal problem

      April 8, 2013 at 7:00 am | Report abuse |
  52. Bob Cesarano

    Suzon is 100% correct in her thinking. I never even gave it a thought until today.
    What if an NFL annoucer called someone a "blackskin" ?
    Change their name to honor the Native Americans to the Washington Wariors.

    April 8, 2013 at 6:38 am | Report abuse |
    • B

      Would we spell "Warriors" correctly when we did that?

      April 8, 2013 at 7:15 am | Report abuse |
  53. cd

    Can this be any more PRE-SCHOOL? I have native american heritage and cant believe this is even being debated. No wonder the world community look at the USA like we are crazy with lame things like this. Get over it!!! Move on!!! There are better things to do!!.............What a waist of time!!!!

    April 8, 2013 at 6:33 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      Fighting bigotry is a waste of time? I think it should be fought wherever and whenever it rears its ugly head.

      April 8, 2013 at 8:57 am | Report abuse |
  54. DrJStrangepork

    This is the slippery slope of "bad words." The moment some words can't be used for something because they may or do offend, then the list will ever grow. I understand this lady's argument. She has a right to fight against her offense as many other groups do.
    I do love these though. It is always the same argument to keep the name... Tradition, "it doesn't offend me", "you are being too thin-skinned", etc. If it is your tradition to be racist, then that somehow makes it ok.
    People should understand that just because you never saw it as racist before, doesn't mean it wasn't always racist.

    April 8, 2013 at 6:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Don Black

      This isn't a slippery slope. It is the term "Redskin" which historically is and has been used exclusively as a derogatory term.

      April 8, 2013 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
      • mikem

        Exactly! It's history. Today, Native American Indians aren't being called redskins. Just a few NAI's seeking attention.

        April 8, 2013 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Pete Henderson

    What a tempest in a teapot! "Racist" and "racism" are such Political Correctness buzz words they are losing their true ugly meaning. I long for the days when a comedian like Myron Cohen could make a fine living doing dialect jokes in a hilarious way, gently poking fun at EVERYONE Only Jackie Mason is left and he only makes fun of Jews. Is he "racist?" No, he's a Jew. Political Correctness sucks big time! To echo others in this string, "Get A Life", Harjo

    April 8, 2013 at 6:23 am | Report abuse |
  56. MD

    Native Americans are being honored by sports teams. They are perceived as fierce, loyal, intimidating warriors. To compare the "N-word" to redskin is unspeakable. I don't personally know a single person who thinks of redskin as a derogatory word for Native Americans. I can understand the argument of stereotypical and offensive mascots, but the names should be considered an honor to Native Americans, because they literally are an honor to a race that was known to be fierce. Growing up in CNY I would say half schools around here have, or at least used to have, Native American names or mascots. There are a lot worse things out there than some perceived racism.

    April 8, 2013 at 6:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Kali1137

      Thank you so much for telling us how we should feel about words used to describe us and mascots. If someone started a team called the blackskins, my god would people protest. But hey, we should be honored. Thanks for letting us know.

      April 8, 2013 at 6:37 am | Report abuse |
    • LivingInTheSouthwest

      Only a bigot defends the use of the term "Redskins" Only and ignorant and closed-minded bigot trys to sell it as an honor.

      April 8, 2013 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
      • A lighter shade of pale

        Get over yourself. To fight bigotry you must start with yourself. Any journey begins with a step. You must take the first step to cleanse yourself.

        April 8, 2013 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Emdryel

        are you that sure about that?
        try looking at ALL the angles of a debate before giving your "professional" opinion.
        besides, what you consider bigotry isn't neccessarily considered bigotry by everyone else.

        April 8, 2013 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
      • LivingInTheSouthwest

        @Emdryel: Yes, I am sure. Positive.

        @A lighter shade of pale: What are you talking about?

        April 8, 2013 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
    • CB1111

      And what if they are from the group we call Hopi, who do not believe in war? That is the problem with such stereotypes. I am against labels and that includes calling people white or whatever. I dislike PC. But, if a term like "Redskin" simplifies our need to think further about a person, then it is a bad term.

      April 8, 2013 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
  57. rwf

    of course as a CHILD one may feel unsafe and scared in this situation. As an adult this idiot should realize this situation was the result of one ignorant individual. Now obsessed and angry, why project that anger towards an emblem, logo, or team(s). I don't think the Redskins plan to show up with bow & arrows on their next visit to Oklahoma? Let's name them the Washington Pale Faces? so they will not be scared. Man, the next time I take in a Blackhawks game it might be scary.

    April 8, 2013 at 5:48 am | Report abuse |
  58. wwm46

    I am not an Indian, I'm a native American. Anyone born in this country is a native American. I get sick and tired of these people who make a living of being offended. If the Washington Redskins want to be called the Redskins I see nothing wrong with it. If you want a cause feed the hungry or stop the killing of unborn babies.

    April 8, 2013 at 5:48 am | Report abuse |
    • Runnner

      I have Native American heritage. It would be much more productive to put your time, money, and effort to bettering the standard of living and educational levels of those on the reservations, rather than quibbling over the names of sports teams and being "offended" by this, that, or the other thing. Can we please start thinking of what's important??

      April 8, 2013 at 8:25 am | Report abuse |
      • LivingInTheSouthwest

        Fighting bigotry is important.

        April 8, 2013 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
      • L

        Agree. And "southwest" it is NOT racist! I am so sick of this argument. I've been a Redskin fan for 40 years and never knew that this could be offensive until some activists made it so. It wasn't even in the dictionary as such when I was younger. I also went to an Arizona vs Reskin game in Arizona and sat with PROUD Native Americans – they were cheering for the REDSKINS and told me they were proud of the name. This is such a stupid article. Ooops – will "stupid" offend someone?

        April 9, 2013 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chaos

        it is NOT racist! I am so sick of this argument. You may not intend malice which is nice but your ignorance is profound. It is not merely "some activists" and because you are aware of a minority of Native Americans are not objecting (most of which are mostly assimilated) doesn't make it an unreasonable view held by the majority. We're talking about using a race, victims of actual genocide, being used as absurd characters for financial gain. Your failure to recognize the significance of that arises from blissful ignorance. Just because you don't mean to be demeaning in your embrace of this practice, doesn't mean it isn't.

        April 18, 2013 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chaos

      You obviously have no appreciation, whatsoever, of history and how an entire people's way of life was wiped out. Genocide based on race. Its people like you that are the problem here.

      April 18, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Pablo

    We also have to watch out for the Q word, the H word and the other R word. We may have to change the alphabet so we don't offend so many people. I say toughen yourself up to cope with the real world.

    April 8, 2013 at 4:35 am | Report abuse |
  60. Hugo Stiglitz

    It says both in the article.


    “No black redskins in here,” they said.

    At that moment, Harjo felt small, unsafe, afraid. Because she was a dark-skinned Native American – Cheyenne and Hodulgee Muscogee – she was being identified by just her coloring.

    April 8, 2013 at 4:10 am | Report abuse |
  61. AniyunweahCherokee

    Van we did the same horrible atrocities to the whiteman, but the whiteman won. Its a simple fact, war partys killed men women and children. Its also a fact that history isnt simply 2 sided.

    April 8, 2013 at 3:50 am | Report abuse |
  62. David

    Our high school mascot is a warrior. It is a sign of pride and honor. Most definitely not one of prejudice!!

    April 8, 2013 at 3:45 am | Report abuse |
    • AniyunweahCherokee

      Well since Americas school system refuses to teach kids about American Indian history and culture how else will they learn? Im not saying a football helmet is a sign of respect, but its better than having nothing at all.

      April 8, 2013 at 3:54 am | Report abuse |
      • Mr.HasALife

        How will school kids learn about Native American culture? Hell, give them each a 6-pack and a dirty wife-beater t-shirt.
        Culture attained.

        April 8, 2013 at 4:40 am | Report abuse |
      • LivingInTheSouthwest

        No it isn't.

        April 8, 2013 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
  63. CFM

    People need to get over alot of their incredible hyoersensitivities – I live in Hawaii where I have been a minority for ever – I am not offended by the term Haouli and most of our multiethnic population laughs and takes stereotypic ethnic names in a good natured way – people – get over it!

    April 8, 2013 at 3:32 am | Report abuse |
    • AniyunweahCherokee

      Dang skippy! Ive been called an irish indian my whole life....red hair, red skin. When people call me a native I just laugh at them, especially when they are 5 generations deep....im like, youre a native also there whiteman....Keetowah Cherokee, no...but native, yes.

      April 8, 2013 at 3:42 am | Report abuse |
  64. lewtwo

    There is such a thing as being too PC or perhaps too sensitive.

    April 8, 2013 at 3:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Mr.HasALife

      I'm offended by your criticism of my sensitivity. You must now pay me 1 Million Dollars for my suffering.

      April 8, 2013 at 4:42 am | Report abuse |
  65. michael guizzotti

    I have been waiting for enviromentalist to protest against animal mascots because they offend the animals. Plus some of those animals look scary so it might cause people to hunt them

    April 8, 2013 at 2:43 am | Report abuse |
  66. michael guizzotti

    Where were these people who are offended during the election of Warren in Mass. She lied about being native to boost her resume and that isn't offendsive, or Ward Churchill a college professor from Col. who was another crazy left winger who claimed he was native but wasn't

    April 8, 2013 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
    • CB1111

      Many people in the US know from their family tree that they are part genetically related to the people in formal tribes. Some even have more genetic DNA than tribal members. But many people in the tribes get hung up on restricting the word Native American to the legal requirement of keeping a tribal affiliation. So a person with 75% genetic DNA associated with" Native Americans" (a label I also think is poor) is not allowed to call themselves Native American if they chose to leave the tribe. But a 1/8 genetic person who keeps the affiliation is allowed. So are these people lying or is the tribal hang up on affiliation the issue?

      April 9, 2013 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  67. Swami

    Anybody else find it a bit ironic that the author of this article is a non-American (citizen) of Indian descent?

    April 8, 2013 at 2:23 am | Report abuse |
    • michael guizzotti

      Lol good catch

      April 8, 2013 at 2:33 am | Report abuse |
  68. Bored

    Soon no one will have a mind of their own. We will all be so careful about what we say, think or believe that we'll all say, think and believe exactly the same.
    B O R I N G

    April 8, 2013 at 2:17 am | Report abuse |
  69. billmosby

    Perhaps we could encourage teams to name themselves after inanimate objects such as factories or something. Kind of like the Soviets did. Go Pervouralsk Bread Factory number 2!

    In another development, any day now the University of Utah Utes will claim to be named after the uterus. Or something.

    April 8, 2013 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
  70. Charles I

    I am 49 years old and I am deeply offended by the San Francisco 49ers' name. They need to change it

    April 8, 2013 at 1:04 am | Report abuse |
  71. maggie

    why are there no logos for peace loving people? Let the Billionaire football owners name the teams after themselves.
    Football is boring "sound and fury, signifying nothing". Football doesn't advocate or celebrate nonviolence. Football celebrates violence as creative, economically lucrative entertainment. All the players are on steroids, the games are fixed why is that interesting? Football makes the prehistoric Neanderthal look civilized, intellectual humane. CheersMaggie

    April 8, 2013 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Pablo

      right on, Maggie.

      April 8, 2013 at 4:39 am | Report abuse |
  72. AdolphH

    People grow up, nothing saddled than supposed adults saying , N word, R word and so on. Grow a pair and say the word or shut up.

    April 8, 2013 at 12:44 am | Report abuse |
  73. Daithi

    I am part Choctaw and the word I dislike is "Indian." Last time I looked this is not India and "Indian" has roots in colonialism. I prefer the term "First Peoples" as is used in Canada. Anyway, the way the Washington football team plays, they should change their name to Custers or the "Little Big Horns."

    April 8, 2013 at 12:43 am | Report abuse |
    • billmosby

      "Clusters" has a nice ring to it as well. lol.

      April 8, 2013 at 1:35 am | Report abuse |
    • jkflipflop

      Too bad you were so busy hitting the peace pipe you didn't bother to think of gunpowder. That probably would have came in handy, eh?

      April 8, 2013 at 1:44 am | Report abuse |
    • AniyunweahCherokee

      Im Keetowah Cherokee and Blackfoot and I prefer Aniyunweah or principal people/chosen people. I dont mind being called Indian because we are from the west Indies. I dont like being called native, considering no one is actually native here. We walked during the last ice age. Since your choctaw we are related. Yataheh osiyio gvgegu.

      April 8, 2013 at 4:11 am | Report abuse |
  74. Liberal

    There is no such thing as Native Americans. They are nothing but invaders from Asia as the other poster said

    April 8, 2013 at 12:30 am | Report abuse |
  75. Kristoff Rand

    As a Citizen of the Tsalagi Tribe I must say that this, if it were to happen, would be very disappointing. Soon no one will dare mention us or take pride and use us as inspiration for their endeavors. I have never been offended by any of these teams using our likeness or naming themselves after our ancestors.

    April 8, 2013 at 12:22 am | Report abuse |
    • Canuck

      I appreciate you saying this. Living in the U.S. as a Canadian, I am constantly amazed at how insignificant Native American/First Nations issues are. While we certainly have not always handled our First Nations affairs well at home, they have a strong presence, including a strong Council of First Nations, the creation of a self-governing territory, Nunavut, etc. In some of my classes at the Faculty of Education, we had honourary consultants from the Turtle Clan (Mohawk Nation). Our aboriginal brothers and sisters, while still not living with the level of dignity they deserve, nevertheless have a much stronger voice and are celebrated much more. Sadly, it is often only through these mascots that anyone remembers the first citizens here in the U.S.

      April 8, 2013 at 2:38 am | Report abuse |
  76. Dave

    I'm not sure what year dictionary they got that PC definition of redskin from, but I have a Webster's New World Dictionary, College Edition, from 1968 and its definition of redskin is: n(meaning the word is a noun), "North American Indian"! Now I know that the meaning of words change based on usage, but come on, from North American Indian to too offensive to use, in 40 years, give me a break!

    April 8, 2013 at 12:02 am | Report abuse |
  77. Chris

    I am native American (cree indian). I am not insulted by a sports team named after a native American feature and heralded it for strength and bravery and fighting spirit. I am insulted by people sanctimoniously speaking on my behalf, and government programs that infantilize native americans and, thereby, spread dependency on said government.

    April 8, 2013 at 12:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Kristoff Rand

      hear, hear...

      April 8, 2013 at 12:23 am | Report abuse |
    • billmosby

      Reportedly, the Utes feel the same way about it.

      April 8, 2013 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Mike

        And also the Seminoles of Florida

        April 8, 2013 at 3:26 am | Report abuse |
  78. injun lover

    Wow offensive! and ban saying Redskin Peanuts! They are professional victims, not tasty nuts!

    April 8, 2013 at 12:00 am | Report abuse |
  79. Rob

    What I find interesting is that there are more High Schools with these mascots and logos than there are professional and college teams. So why aren't they going after the High Schools? Because there is no money to be had! They are fishing for settlements and reparations, no matter how they try to angle the story.

    April 7, 2013 at 11:59 pm | Report abuse |
  80. TiSentinel65

    Let's just name all of our teams after white people and listen to the minorities complain that we are not being inclusive. These debates are rediculous. When you name a team, you are trying to emulate either a proud heritage or attributes that are synonymous with winning. It's ironic that Indians find the very attributes offensive.

    April 7, 2013 at 11:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • billmosby

      As in, for example, the Toledo Mud Hens.

      April 8, 2013 at 1:40 am | Report abuse |
  81. AF

    “A good many Americans don’t know any Indians,” says Kevin Gover,

    And a good many Native Americans don't know any Indians either, what does that have to do with anything?

    Anyway, the Cleveland Browns are named after Joe Louis's nickname the Brown Bomber, isn't that racist, because Joe Louis was African American?

    April 7, 2013 at 11:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      And now that I think about it, by calling all black people in the United States "African American" isn't that sterotying that all black people just decend from Africa? Read Colin Powel's autobiography, he hates the term used on him because his family comes from Jamaica.

      April 8, 2013 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
    • michael guizzotti

      Cleveland browns are named after Paul Brown their most famous coach. I do not know why you think it is related to Joe Louis

      April 8, 2013 at 2:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Greg

      The Celtics? The Fighting Irish? People always forget the Irish (except on St. Paddy's day)

      April 8, 2013 at 4:02 am | Report abuse |
  82. Ben

    Oh god this has to stop... there's the R word (retard), N word, M word (midget) and just the other day I read about the I word (illegal). This is crazy people need to stop being "offended" about everything.

    April 7, 2013 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tom

      Everyone should think of a slur that could be used to denigrate themselves and ask themselves if they would like others to use that slur. That is at the heart of this issue. Would you like it or would you not like it.

      April 7, 2013 at 11:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        You need to learn the facts for the better part of 50 years no one complained about the name Washington Redskins. Only when the team started making serious money did it suddenly become an issue. The courts threw the case out because the plaintiffs had taken so long to bring suit.

        So, please enlighten us how decades went by with no complaints or suits, we are supposed to believe this is as offensive as claimed? By the way I'm part native american, my great grandmother was thrown out of her tribe and family told never to comeback ... the reason? She fell in love with a white man and wanted to marry him. She was told to choose and she did. Tell me which is more racist?

        Take a good look at the Redskin logo and tell me how anyone can see it as being offensive. A proud, strong image is what the logo depicts, unlike the Cleveland Indians mascot, yet the target is the Washington Redskins ... it's all about dollars. They wanted to force the team to stop using the logo, only after they failed to get the Redskins to pay for using the positive image (logo). The claim of it being offensive is a just more PC craziness.

        April 8, 2013 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
      • Hugo Stiglitz

        Pretty pathetic when you have to explains "sticks and stones" to ADULTS!

        Grow a spine Jellyfish!!

        April 8, 2013 at 4:17 am | Report abuse |
  83. Mahon

    Nobody seems to complain about the Chicago Black Hawks. Black Hawk was indeed a Native American leader and there was a Black Hawk War in those parts, and the team uses some Native American imagery. But it does appear to be dignified and respectful, so is this OK if done right? Like Minnesota Vikings, maybe? Or is it just that nobody cares about hockey?

    April 7, 2013 at 11:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • billmosby

      Well, actually, nobody cares about Vikings anymore.

      April 8, 2013 at 1:41 am | Report abuse |
      • Manic Zorbian

        Well, those of us descended from vikings care, but we're holding off on making a stink about it until the R word N word debacle is resolved.

        April 8, 2013 at 2:19 am | Report abuse |
  84. Judy

    Davenaz said: "Maybe the religious in this country should be offended by New Jersey using satan as a mascot..... Just seems soooo inappropriate. I bet the devil doesn't want to be associated with hockey!"

    Actually the Jersey Devils are not referring to Satan. They are referring to a creature said to live in New Jersey called the "Jersey Devil." It has been spotted since the 1700's, just as Bigfoot has been in other parts of the country and the world.

    April 7, 2013 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Steve

    That's hilarious. When I saw the 'R' word, I thought liberals were going to finally address how widely the term "redneck" is bantered about and how it is as racist and derogatory as the "n" word. So I click the article only to find out they mean "redskin".

    Hypocrisy still rules with libs.....

    April 7, 2013 at 11:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dennnn

      I thought it was going to be that word too, since last week was World anti-R Word Day.

      When, by the way, was the last time you used the "R" word to describe a mentally disabled person instead of your brain dead best friend who is not legally or clinically challenged? Now that I know it's offensive, I simply use "tard" that way I don't imply that they need the blue plate to park.

      April 8, 2013 at 3:20 am | Report abuse |
  86. Fred Ferraro

    What I don't understand, is when someone says that a name like Redskin is honorific but the people who are supposed to be honored by it find it deeply offensive, then how exactly is it honoring anyone?

    April 7, 2013 at 11:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fred Ferraro

      Something tells me we wouldn't be having this issue if the team was named the washington N-words... I suppose because there are so few Native Americans as a percentage of the population they're easier to ignore.

      April 7, 2013 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wood

      Just because one person says it offends their race does not make it so, I missed an election that she won allowing her to speak for all Indians (especially the ones who have authorized the use of Indian names such as Florida State).

      April 7, 2013 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jennifer

        Actually, it is pretty darn offensive to most Native Americans. Native Americans just don't get the same mainstream media attention as other ethnic groups. Several U.S. tribes have been trying to get many sports teams to change their names for years, but you never hear about it. We all have to be politically correct when it comes to all the other ethnic groups, but the hell with Native Americans, right (sarcasm)? Sickening.

        April 8, 2013 at 12:23 am | Report abuse |
  87. les

    She's still dwelling on some comment made to her in the early 1950s? Professional victims, always searching for racism even if they have to go back 6 decades to find it.

    April 7, 2013 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • m

      exactly!!! This "PC" crap is waaay outta hand anymore. Grow a pair, get a backbone, whatever you have to do to finally grow up and be an adult! Sheesh

      April 7, 2013 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
  88. CapeMOGuy

    What does Senator Elizabeth Warren have to say about it? She's a Native American.

    April 7, 2013 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse |
  89. Sparky

    I come from an Irish background, therefore, I want the "Fighting Irish" slogan eliminated from sports, as I find it a derogatory name that greatly offends me.

    April 7, 2013 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joshua Grimstad

      Baby, I'm Norwegian and I say God Bless the VIKINGS.

      April 7, 2013 at 11:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • From the cities

        Lord knows they need it.

        April 8, 2013 at 12:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Punky

      Yeah, I'm Irish, too, and am completely offended by the Fighting Irish, and this ridiculous and offensive St. Patrick's Day that implies the Irish are drunks and dress up like green fools. How does Boston get away with the Celtics and that little leprechaun? The state of Ohio is one of the WORST offenders: Cincinnati Reds, Miami Redskins, Cleveland Indians. And what exactly is a Buckeye - some slur, I'm sure. Change all the names. What about those San Diego Padres? I've had enough of Californians making fun of their Latino population. Change the names. The San Francisco Giants - oh really? We need to take a look at that real soon.

      April 7, 2013 at 11:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • billmosby

        I like to shout "Hey, Meagan" at a St. Patrick's day parade and watch a bunch of drunken Irish women spin around.

        Or did I see that on 30 Rock?

        April 8, 2013 at 1:44 am | Report abuse |
      • Randomarrow

        Probably in the bottom of a Jameson bottle.

        April 8, 2013 at 1:48 am | Report abuse |
  90. Steve

    People get so uptight about words but Redskins should be changed. It is a derogatory word in origin.

    April 7, 2013 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • michael p. fink

      redskins are potatos , geez

      April 7, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Report abuse |
  91. Ahmaid Ahdoodi

    Imagine the racist accusations if these teams suddenly re-named themselves the "Whiteskins."

    April 7, 2013 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ben Graeber

      Well said, Ahmaid. Whites used to get money for bringing in "red skins" when they scalped Native Americans. They were rewarded financially for murder. And now this is the mascot of the team located in Washington DC.
      Only in America...

      April 7, 2013 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • Wood

        That would be interesting if it were true. Scalping was primarily an Indian act, white people used guns to bring death to the Indian people. There is no credible historical evidence that the team "redskin" was used in counting Indian scalps. This isn't a debate about how Indians were treated, it is a debate about a sports team name. Research (link early in this thread) highlights that Indian leaders used the name Redskin to refer to themselves. This is about people trying to get attention and using this as their calling card. Is this really the worst thing that has happened to the Indians? Is this time, effort, and energy really going to improve the lives of Indians? How about dealing with the drinking problems or lack of education that is destroying the Indians. Naaaa, lets focus on the name of a sports team and grandstand on the issue.

        April 7, 2013 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse |
  92. Steve

    Proponents say "this". Opponents say say "that". How about the real world where nobody cares. I live in Atlanta and when I hear "Atlanta Braves," Indians are the last thing I would ever think of. I think of a baseball team. When I hear "Washington Redskins," I think of a football team. Even the logo goes "in one eye and out the other." It would never dawn on me to think of Indians, good or bad. My bet is that most people feel that way, probably even Indians who are Braves and Redskin fans. The only ones raising a stink are fringe groups that don't have a purpose other than to stir up trouble.

    April 7, 2013 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daws

      Brave has never been used as a slur...

      April 7, 2013 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • ATXJosh

        Whether it's been used as a racial slur is not the point, at least according to Harjo. The use of Native American imagery as a "cheap mascot" is offensive in and of itself. It matters not whether it's a slur or not.

        April 7, 2013 at 11:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • billmosby

      I used to live in Houston, and when I hear "Astros", I....
      well, I never actually hear "Astros", come to think of it.

      April 8, 2013 at 1:45 am | Report abuse |
  93. Trent

    Guess we'll have to change the New York Yankees since that negatively stereotypes northerners. Fighting Irish for negatively stereotyping Irish, the Sacramento Kings since that implies offensive social classes.

    April 7, 2013 at 10:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daws

      Really? What's the stereotype had for yankees, that they wear stripes? Stop trolling...

      April 7, 2013 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Great point!!!! Let's get rid of all names and replace them with randomly generated numbers.

      April 7, 2013 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • billmosby

        Or randomly numbered generators, like the Russians used to. Dynamo # 7, for example. lol.

        April 8, 2013 at 1:46 am | Report abuse |
  94. Jackie

    My high school team back in the early 80's was known as the "warriors" and our mascot was an Indian Chief complete with full head dress and tomahawk. At games and rallies, he and the cheerleaders (also dressed in Indian costumes) would combine Indian war dance with amazing acrobatics. It was quite a show! I haven't kept up with news from my old school, but I just now looked it up and was pleasantly surprised to see that it hasn't (yet) fallen victim to this politically correct nonsense. They still go by the name "warriors". The website's logo is an Indian chief's head in full feathered head dress and the website is decorated with large feathered. I hope they have also kept the Indian Chief mascot and acrobatic war dances. It was by far the most entertaining part of going to the games!

    April 7, 2013 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Steven Mucci

    I think the R waked is worse than the Nword. Bothe are equally terrible but black people were not almost completely exterminated like the native Americans were. People seem to forget that

    April 7, 2013 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marc A. Ellis

      Drunk Indians living on government subsidies should be the thought here. As a Sovereign nation, maybe they should get out of the gutter and get to work... most of the rest of us have to!

      April 7, 2013 at 10:58 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Bee

    We managed to wipe out and entire people and now those people want to remove any remaining historical tribute to them? You remove all of these references and native americans are resigned to the text books and eventually are never spoken about in mainstream populous. Its ignorant to speak of "most people not knowing a native american". No joke, sense you represent less than 1.5% of the population in 40+ states. That is the inverted racist equivalent of someone who quickly responds "I have many ... friends, so I can't be racists". You have managed to let a handful of bigoted old fools born 100+ years ago turn you into a racists yourself. You should be using teams like the redskins as an opportunity to spread knowledge, but that wouldn't fit your self generated righteousness would it? Racism is dying out is all but the most remote parts, don't help keep it alive by forcing people to be so cognizant of it they can't have a conversation without mentally checking every word before they speak it!

    April 7, 2013 at 10:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Metaxylenol

      "Historical tribute"? You can't be serious.

      April 7, 2013 at 10:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Daws

      Yeah and a black man protrayed in overalls, big red lips, and a watermelon smile whilst eating fried chicken is a historical tribute to slavery.

      April 7, 2013 at 10:58 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Bigdaddyc9

    Please grow some thicker skin.This uproar is getting annoying.Grow a pair already and get over yourselves.It is a football team for Gosh sakes.This age of politcally correctness is almost as bad as having to accept liars running the country and NO I am not talking about just our POStus,I'm talking the whole deal.White lie,politically correct all mean the same thing...baloney.Can anyone tell me why a viable cure for some cancer is illegal?Our grandchildren will laugh at us and be ashamed all at the same time.Free the weed for those in need.

    April 7, 2013 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Scott

    I'm guessing "Redskins" is only offensive when they are losing?

    Seriously, I think that those who are pushing the offense should consider the intent of the term. My wife is part 'native American' and has never been offended by sport's teams usage of 'native American' honorifics – nor has her mother, grandmother, etc.

    April 7, 2013 at 10:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pablo

      A lot of us "whites" in America are part Indian. But unless we have "Redskin", we get no credit for it.

      April 8, 2013 at 4:51 am | Report abuse |
  99. noteaparty4me

    Absofreakinglutely that word is equivalent to the other word in every single solitary way.

    April 7, 2013 at 10:26 pm | Report abuse |
  100. TewksburyBob

    Minority groups (I am not refering to race) are the vocal minority. I am tried of it. Join the majority, integrate like our ancestors did, and get over it. By the way...learn english too. Press one for "I am an Amercan". Press two and leave.

    April 7, 2013 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Randomarrow

      Hey Tewks,

      It sounds like you are a member of that Communist Cell known to be active in Tewksbury. Or was it a Nazi Cell? Can't be too sure these days because according to the Tea Party they are all one and the same. Just ask Rush.

      April 8, 2013 at 12:01 am | Report abuse |
    • billmosby

      You were "tried" of it? How long was the sentence, how much was the fine?

      April 8, 2013 at 1:49 am | Report abuse |
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